July 5, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a hard-hitting analysis of the political and economic challenges facing New York City and the broader implications for urban America. This hour centers on the rise of Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani, a self-described democratic socialist, and the potential fallout of his far-left platform on the city’s future. The hosts explore the political dynamics of the NYC mayoral race, including speculation about a possible independent run by Andrew Cuomo and the strategic implications of a crowded field. They scrutinize Mamdani’s controversial rhetoric, including his refusal to condemn inflammatory slogans like “globalize the Intifada,” and raise concerns about the normalization of radical ideologies within the Democratic Party. A major theme of this hour is the economic exodus from high-tax, high-crime cities like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles. The hosts argue that progressive tax policies and soft-on-crime governance are driving billionaires, businesses, and middle-class families to relocate to states like Florida, Texas, and Tennessee. They cite examples like Ken Griffin moving Citadel to Miami and emphasize how wealth migration is reshaping America’s economic map. The conversation also tackles the debate over capitalism versus socialism, with Clay and Buck defending capitalism as the engine of American prosperity. They argue that redistributing billionaire wealth won’t solve poverty and highlight how even the poorest Americans enjoy a higher standard of living than much of the world. The hosts warn that anti-capitalist policies threaten economic growth and personal freedom. In a lighter segment, the duo ranks their top five American cities, praising Nashville, Phoenix, Miami, Salt Lake City, and Houston/Dallas for their livability, economic opportunity, and cultural vibrancy. They also dive into a fun debate over ice cream flavors, with shoutouts to pistachio, cookie dough, and homemade creations. This hour also includes a sobering discussion on antisemitism and media bias, contrasting the limited coverage of a deadly Molotov cocktail attack in Boulder with the extensive reporting on Charlottesville. The hosts argue that the media applies double standards when covering hate crimes, especially when they don’t align with the dominant political narrative. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the future of American cities, the importance of economic freedom, and the cultural shifts influencing where people choose to live and work—all under the leadership of President Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Monday edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
As I know many of you are likely to be
on the.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
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to some podcasts on my drive down to the Gulf
(01:24):
of America on Saturdays in the car for about nine hours,
lots of traffic, and got through a lot of different
cool podcasts. So I know a lot of you are
going to be on the road and Buck as we
went to break at the end of that first hour,
we were talking about some of the situation that's going
on in New York City where Mom Donnie, this crazy
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left wing effective communist, has won the nomination for the
Democrat side of the mayoralty. There has not yet been
a decision by Andrew Cuomo about whether he's going to
run as an independent or drop out. To me, and
I'm just kind of assessing this from afar, the decision
has to be Eric Adams versus Mom Donnie. I think
(02:08):
that's the only way Mom Donnie loses if there's multiple independence.
If you have a Republican nominee like Curtis Lee while
running aggressively. I just don't the more opposition there is
to Mom Donnie, the better it is for his likelihood.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But I bet you were like me.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Over the weekend, a lot of deep dives into his
videos started to go public, and these are I would say,
truly outrageous perspectives that he has adopted publicly. And I
know you've been following it. You've got some you want
to kind of shine a spotlight on.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Jane because I keep hoping that New York is going
to wake up and go through a Juliani Bloomberg Golden
era again. But you have a lot of people that
know nothing about that era. That's part of the problem.
The people like me who grew up in very, very
dangerous New York City, and I would people who say,
oh no, it was very dangerous in the seventies. The
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most dangerous was the late eighties early nineties. By the numbers,
no question, go check it out for yourself. Over two
thousand murders in New York City when I was in
grammar school in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, two thousand
plus murders. Think about that, all right, New York City
has gotten down as low as I think below three
hundred at one point in the last decades, so massive, massive,
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And people say, well, that's just murders. Yeah, but murders
are very very solid proxy for overall pretticularly violent crime,
but crime in general. It's tough to hide dead bodies
and people are upset about them, right, Burglaries don't necessarily
get reported or investigated. I mean, there's other things ways
you can mess with the stats murders or murders. So
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a lot of people Clay who voted for Momdani are
either too young, you know he got because he was
huge with gen Z, or they came here in the
last fifteen or twenty years they don't know. They're foreigners
who have become you know, green card holders, or they
maybe become citizens, and now they're saying, oh, yeah, I
like this guy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Like what he's saying.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
He's going to make you know, he's going to make
food cheaper in the kabab stands, he's going to make
groceries cheaper, and he's talking about all this stuff. Let's
get into some of the things that this guy has
actually said. The Kami mom Donnie here he is. I mean,
we got so many of these. I'll start with this one.
He talked about increasing. Well here, let's do this one first, billionaires.
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We shouldn't even have this is cut seven. We shouldn't
even have billionaires play seven.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You are a self described democratic socialist. Do you think
that billionaires have a right to exist?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I don't think that we should have billionaires because, frankly,
it is so much money in a moment of such inequality,
and ultimately, what we need more of is equality across
our city and across our state and across our country.
And I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires,
to make a city that is fairer for all of them.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I hate this so much because we can sit here, Clay,
and we will and make all the arguments about how
you can take all the money from the I don't know,
one hundred two hundred billionaires whatever it is in New
York City, or a few hundred billionaires, maybe maximum you
could take all the money that they have and try
to redistribute it. You wouldn't solve poverty in New York
City for a year, Okay, it wouldn't change it. They're
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spending fourteen billion a year just on the illegals in
New York City fourteen billion a year on special care
for illegals. You think you're going to seize a few
hundred billion dollars from New York's billionaires, you're going to
fix the problems. But even beside that, the whole argument
here is just one about envy. It's one about emotion.
This is why it's so pernicious and why communism keeps
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creeping up wherever, you know, wherever there's prosperity in the West,
and it's because it just makes people who are upset
feel better about themselves to think that there's some other
person who's their problem.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Look, I really do think it sums up the flaw
of capitalism is it create wealth and leisure, which leads
to the illusion that capitalism is unnecessary and the reason
we have the wealth and the leisure that exists in
this country. And by leisure, I mean you don't have
to constantly be in a mad scramble to have water
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or food or the ability to you know, the poor
people in the United States are not actually poor relative
to the standards for what poverty looks like in the
rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Are poor people.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think one of the great stats that kind of
brings this home. Even in a country like India, the
poorest people in the United States would be in the
top twenty percent richest in India. That's true for almost
every country that is in the world. The poorest people
here would be among the wealthiest anywhere else. And if
you wonder why people are risking their lives to come
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through the Darien Gap during the Biden era or come
across the Rio Grande, it's because even being poor in
the United States makes you wealthy in many other countries.
And that's an incredible degree that we have.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But the poverty, it comes along with obesity in this country,
which is an excess for example, of food. There's a
correlation between poverty and obesity. There were times, actually, like
all of human history, for the last one hundred or
so years, where poverty and starvation were actually what we're
correlated and actually being fat was a sign of tremendous
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wealth because it meant that you had to your point
all come to tell my wife, but she wanted me
to get in shape anyway. You know, it's kind of
sad if you go back.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And look at all the kings you know in England
back in the day, for instance, when they became super wealthy,
they were often very fat because that meant that you
had the ability to have too much to eat, which
was a rarity.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But the billionaire thing to me is it's it's it's so.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Important for everybody to focus on. First of all, I
want there to be way more billionaires. I want there
to be way more millionaires. I want the overall pie
of economic wealth in the United States to grow massively,
and I want everybody to be able to feast on
economic success, whatever your current status of life is.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But this is so.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Important, and I think you're a perfect example of this
because what this happens is and you're going to start
to see this in earnest. I think I would even
argue this is a generational story that you need to
put a pin in and pay attention to. People who
have success in life, who have wealth are far more
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mobile in general than people who do not have success
in life and do not have great opportunity. Right with
wealth comes the ability to go to different places to
relocate your life. And what a lot of people found
out during COVID is they could move to different parts
of the United States or even the world, and they
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would have never tested it but for COVID, and they
found out, Hey, I can be running Wall Street from
Miami just as well as I can from Greenwich, Connecticut,
or a super luxury pad somewhere in a high rise
building overlooking Central Park. And what you are going to see.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And I want all of you to kind of think
about this because it's going to happen La Chicago, New
York City.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
They are going to increasingly tax the successful people in
these communities. And Mom Donnie is reflective of this, and
the successful people, the most successful people in those communities.
You just saw Ken Griffin Citadel. He just up and said,
screw it, Chicago's not safe. I'm moving all my people
to Miami. You are going to see. I just mentioned Buck,
(09:45):
born and raised New York City kid who probably would
love to have stayed in New York City. But you
start to have success and you look at other parts
of the country and they're they're grabbing so much of
your money that at some point you just say enough,
deal with this anymore, even in a city that you
may have grown up in and looked yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And it's frustrating because you can also see the recent
history of cities that have gone down this pathway, and
it is universally a bad idea. It universally creates more
negative things, whether it's crime, disorder, you filth on the streets,
economic light from the city is we go through this
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over and over again. But this brings me back, Clay.
The reason I'm concerned about Mamdani is that he is good.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
He is slick.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
He is adept at appealing to people's emotions who are
frustrated and who don't want to even get into the
merits of the argument. They want an excuse. It is
the politics of envy. Somebody else has it better than me.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
By the way, you don't even know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I mean, there's some of the happiest people I know
lead some of the most humble and basic lives, and
truly some of the most miserable people I know have
them most money and the most influence and the most power,
and they just can't escape their daily misery. But put
that aside for a second. And I know that sounds
like a cliche, I swear it is true, Okay, I
mean I could go through chapter and verse people who have,
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you know, having a very sort of you know, not
moditor is not the word I'm looking for what do
you call modest, very modest life in America, and they're
very very happy, and people who have incredible lives of
extravagance and they're truly miserable. But again, aside Clay, this
is the politics of somebody is excusing all of my
choices and says they're going to make my problems go away.
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And it never works. It never works. It's not going
to work this time. It has never worked before. But
people like to believe this is why socialism is actually
a religion. I mean, communism is a religion. This is
not an economic system because the economics can't work.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We just went through it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You can take all the money from the rich people
in New York, it's not going to pay for all
the poor people stuff forever. It's not going to make
the poor people not pulled. But it doesn't matter, it
doesn't matter. They want this, they feel this, and Mamdanni
feeds it to them, he gives it to them. He
makes it seem like none of this is anyone's fault.
No one's station in life is the result of choices,
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no one's.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's the system. And what's going to happen is.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The system is going to have a lot less money
because when you go dive into the actual revenue produced
by taxation, the billionaires that Mamdanni claims shouldn't exist. In fact,
if New York wants to have the best quality of life,
they should have way more billionaires. They're going to leave,
and then that's going to create a vicious cycle because
you're going to have to increase taxes in order to
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try to replicate the services that the taxes are creating.
Now the tax dollars are going to leave. They're going
to go to states like Florida, Tennessee, Texas where there's
zero state income tax. I mean, again, this is a
generational flaw of Democrats that I think is going to
be exposed in a big way. And again, if you
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make a million dollars, let's say you make a million
dollars a year. Not that many people who make a
million dollars a year. Let's say you do. You're paying
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars extra for the privilege
of living in New York City. Okay, if you make
ten million, you're paying one point five million dollars for
the privilege of living in New York. You're getting up
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to the high levels above ten million dollars. Think about
even at a million dollars, you can pay an entire
mortgage living in Tennessee or Texas or Florida. That increases
your assets compared to what you're paying. And people would say, Okay, well,
there's a benefit to living in New York City, right
or Chicago or La. I'm here to tell y'all, I've
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spent a lot of time in all these places. It's
fun to visit. There's no city in America I would
pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars extra of my
tax dollars to live in compared to Florida, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Or Texas.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Now you guys, have you guys have good food in
Nashville too. I can't even I can't even throw shade
at some of these other cities thirty years ago, New Yorkers.
I'm just telling you guys the truth. New Yorkers could
be like, honestly, we just have better food than you guys.
And that was true of most cities in America thirty
years ago, maybe even twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Nashville, Charleston, you know, Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean you just look like you know Phoenix, the Play.
These places all have great food now. I mean it's
great food.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's not even.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Cool enough to know good restaurant stuff. I would never
even noticed that. But I am told that the foody
scene for people who love restaurants in a city like
where I live, Nashville, is out of control.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
E can't even keep up well in Nashville. Nashville punch
his way above its way. But every decent mid size
city and above in America has great food now. So
I'm saying some of the advantages that New York used
to have as a place. New York, Chicago, and LA
used to just have better job opportunities and better food
than most of the rest of the country. And it's
just you could say, you want to live in a
rural area, that's great, that's fine. But if you're looking
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to work at a top law firm and you want
to go to a Michelin three star restaurant, those were
really in San Francisco too. Those are really the choices
that you had, which is not true anymore. To your point,
you can do these jobs from wherever.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's got great food. You can buy anything anywhere you
want now thanks to the Internet. But Clay, I mean,
we can make these arguments all day. Here's a stat
one percent of New Yorkers pay fifty percent of New
York City's tax rate. One percent, one in one hundred
people are paying for fifty people. And Mamdani's like, that's
not enough, it's unequal. How much more does it have
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to be? How much more is they're going to be? Look,
this is the problem, friends, is these budgets can get
out of control, and the Democrats want to keep spending
us into oblivion.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You need to take action.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Next week, the US dollar is going to be at
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Speaker 1 (15:46):
The Brick nations are meeting.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Okay, now, these nations want to move away from the
US dollar as the reserve currency. They're trying to do
this slowly, but surely. If that happens, our quality of
life takes a huge hit and the dollar takes a bath,
it's going to be rough.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You should prepare for.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
We're continuing the conversation about New York and amenities and
things like, certainly for jobs and professions.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But I was pointing out when I was.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
A kid, we'd take a trip to New York every
I don't know, I probably went two or three times
from you know, when I was a twelve thirteen year
old to eighteen year old something like that, which probably
ships passing in the night of the arcade, you know,
But bookstores for me was a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
When I was a kid growing up, I tried to
read and I still read all the time, but we
had Walden Books. Walden Books doesn't exist anymore. But those
of you who grew up around my age or a
little bit older, will remember you would go to a
mall and there was a bookstore, and they had a
relatively limited collection of books, and I wanted to read
all the time. You didn't have Amazon. It was hard
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to order books back in the day. What amenities other
than Broadway? What amenities does New York City offer that
you can't find in Dallas or Houston, or Nashville or Miami.
There's not very many anymore because the world has evolved
in a big way. You mentioned restaurants, bookstores. The cultural
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benefits of a big city when you're paying fifteen percent
are not what they once were. And I think a
lot of people are recognizing that.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean, if you live in a nice suburb of
any decent city in America, you can get all the
good stuff you want, of all kinds.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's the change here.
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I still love it. I'm waiting, like in Return of
the King, Clay, I am aer gorn, waiting to come
back to what was the name of the city, guys, producer, Greg,
you're into nerd stuff like me. What was the name
(19:43):
of the of the Return of the King city in
the Lord of the Rings?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You know what I mean. I don't remember. By the way,
I don't even think New York.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I don't even think New York City's top five American
cities anymore. You're killing me, Clay, You're killing me. I
mean seriously, like New York City. I just think threw
a rough patch. It's like New York has gained ten
pounds and needs a shave. But it's still beautiful. It's
still beautiful. Okay, So all right here we go. I'm
trying to remember them. I can't believe I can't remember
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the name of Lord of the Ring city, but that
was my Return of the King reference. We do have
to talk about greatest movie of the twenty first century,
I might meanest teif is that right, that was the
name of the city. Yeah, I guess that is the
name of the city. Thank you, producer Greg.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That is a super nerd pull by producer Greg. I
had never I would not get that. Producer Greg had
my back on that one. I knew he was gonna
get that one fast.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So yeah, I think that eventually New York is gonna
be awesome and I'm gonna return. We're gonna play the
song Return of the Mac, which is one of the greatest,
greatest anthems of the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A great song we agree on.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
This is a fantastic song, and we were all gonna
all of us who have fled. Maybe we're not going
to move back to New York, but we will go
back at some point in the future when sanity rains.
It is a beautiful, wonderful place. It'll be like the
Golden Age under Giuliani's Bloomberg. I'm hoping. I'm hoping that's
gonna happen. In the meantime, we got to deal with
the madness of Mamdanni Takami and here he is on
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Now this goes for some of you who are like Buck,
it's just this one city and it's not gonna affect
me a few things. First of all, New York, California,
these are places that have the kind of political poll
where if they keep running into huge financial problems, you
know what, they're gonna want federal bailout, which they're not
going to get under Trump, but you don't think they'll
get that under Democrat administration. Clay, you know, California's budget
deficit this year something like thirty billion dollars. Oh yeah,
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thirty They don't have them. They don't have a printing
press in California. They can't just you know, inflate that away.
They're gonna want the federal government to help them out
at some point if they keep this madness up. So
and New York's budget's way too big. As I said,
two hundred and forty gondor thank you friend, that's Gondor
what is mean that one makes?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I gave producer Greg Way too much credit to or
that one I've heard of.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I was like the name that he came up with.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I didn't Yeah, yeah, prducer Greg went like too deep
in the nerddom there meaness here, I think that's like
the castle or something. I don't think that's actually, yeah, Gondor,
thank you to one of our listeners for Steam listeners
for hooking me up there. So I think I'll return,
like Eric Gorn to Gondor to New York at some
point because it still has a lot of great stuff. Essentially,
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Clay always said, you always have fun when we're in
New York.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You're big.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I actually I actually sketched out my top five cities
in America right now pro sports cities, because I don't
want people.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Getting mad at me because you know, like I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Picking with pro sports team if you leave out, like
if you know, like Louisville can't count because Louisville doesn't
have a sports pro sports team.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean I'm just saying, like, at some point
you have to decide like a city, because I know
we have a lot of people who live in smaller
towns and I'm not like taking a shot at them,
but I think you have to consider the fifty biggest
cities in America.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
For instance, what is your top five, you Heathen, what
is your top so number one?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Ishville and that broader community too, because we have a
more on Mayor right now. But I'm born and raised
and I'm gonna be a little bit biased. Nashville is
the best city in America and might always humble and
unbiased opinion. Uh, Phoenix, I've got his number two.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Oh, Phoenix is fabulous. I've never been, so I can't.
I can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But I'm not counting suburban areas of these cities too,
So like Scottsdale, which I think is an amazing place, Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I've got Miami where you live. At three.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I really like South Florida broadly again, South Florida. And
then I've got I really like Salt Lake City. I
think Salt Lake City is a jewel underrated Lake City.
Oh yeah, it's fabulous. You're really getting You're really getting frisky.
And then and then in the five spot, this is
where I'm gonna be a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think he's just going with places, by the way,
where our ratings are through the You got to throw
Milwaukee in there, just because we get so much Milwaukee
love on the ratings.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I love Milwaukee in the summer. I love a city
where I just was the northern Michigan area. I'm not
a cold weather guy, so I'm admittedly telling all of you.
I would not live in these places. I'm being a
little bit, a little bit of a coward here to
be fair. And then I've got because these cities hate
each other and they have a perpetual rivalry. Houston slash Dallas,
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Houston slash Dallas. They hate each other. But that would
be my five. These are my five biggest best places.
And you'll notice they are all in now again, Arizona
voted red and there happened to be number one in Houston.
And have I see with Clay, I like this. Clay's like, hey,
where do we have the largest where do we have
sports arena sized audiences listening right now?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
He's like, I love you Houston. I mean I love
you Houston too, because so many of you listen. But
I don't know enough about the city to put it
on my list. So that'd be my top five. And
again I admit that I am biased against cold weather locations,
and I'm also biased against.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Blue states and blue city I'm not willing. I would
not be willing to live in a blue state blue
city environ right now. I just don't trust the decisions
they're making.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
The top five city five is hard for me. I mean,
for me, the top cities in America right now for me?
For me, you ever can disagree this is this is
like favorite ice cream flavor, which we all know should
be pistachio. Unlike Clay, I don't even know that, Like
pistachio is such a rich kid ice cream choice. Like
I don't even know how many average ice cream shops
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even have pistachio, Like does does Baskin Robbins thirty one
flavors was one of them?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Pistachio. I was actually talking about this with my wife
the other.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, first of all, you make it worse when you
say pistachio. Okay, it's pistachio. Pistachio.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was talking about this with my wife because there's
tons of ice cream shops now when I was cause
we were talking about like you had Dairy Queen, and
after Dairy Queen you would get in the back of
some dad's pick up truck and they just drive you
or get arrested for that. Now, there was hardly any
ice cream shops when I was a kid growing up.
Baskin Robbins was it. Now They're everywhere we go for
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ice cream all the time.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh, I'm just telling you. If you look on top ten,
top twenty lists, pistachio generally sneaks.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
In there around you know, eighteen of the lists. Yeah,
something like that. I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'd never even know that was an ice cream flavor
when I was a kid. My beloved parents, my wonderful parents,
love strawberry ice cream. That's good choice. That's number three.
It goes chocolate, vanilla, strawberry.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think for people, I think they now, I would
say cookie dough has surged up the rankings that didn't
exist when I was a kid. It's it's really really good.
Cookie dough ice cream is a killer, uh, you know,
like game changer app. That's the only real I would
say flavor that has taken off. I bet cookie dough
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is like top six seven now. And then they have
the super Man, which every kid likes. I think you're
leaving out as we're going into this holiday weekend. Two,
we're giving you all these great ideas for ice cream.
You know, my wife makes homemade ice cream, which I
like to blame for some of my weight game that
occurred a couple of years ago. Yeah, I had I
had the ice cream what flavor did she make that.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was like, this is maybe the best ice cream
I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I think she made toasted almond cherry when you were here.
I think that's what she made. Amazing, it was, it's
it's legitimately. I told her, I said, this is maybe
the best ice cream I've ever Yes, she makes the
best ice cream. It's once you start making homemade ice cream,
it's amazing because you're gonna love.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It, but also it's dangerous. It's dangerous.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
All of a sudden, you're just like, this is the
best ice cream I ever had. All Right, let's get
back to commim. Oh wait, I was gonna give you
my top cities then we'll talk commy mom Donnie for me.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's uh, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I can't even give it a New York's on the
injured reserve list right now. New York has said.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It was still the best. Now you're not even one.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's it's it's the it's the franchise player Clay but
has a strained achilles.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's like it's like Halliburton or whatever from from the Pacers,
like strained achilles or pulled achilles.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
New York on injured reserve still in the top five.
I have to agree Nashville's the top five city. Miami
for me obviously very high on that list. I have
a real soft spot for Charleston, and I always want
to say Charleston slash doesn't count because they're similar to me.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Doesn't counts either.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm eliminating it because doesn't have y got to go
top fifty. So yeah, look Greenville, South Carolina. Amazing place.
No I went Roague there. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I forgot about the rules. I went Rogue. Man, I'd
have to I have to think beyond the beyond the
top three. I have to think about you do your
list san Diego. San Diego is in California, but San.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Diego is an awesome city. It's amazing place.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I'm eliminating blue city in blue states because I
don't trust the people running those places.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'll go blue city in a red state because at
least you have the balance of some larger top cover.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, Austin should be, you know, Austin, I think twenty
years ago would have definitely been on my top five.
But man, the commis have run wild in that place.
So all right, let's get speaking of commies. Let's get
back to mom, Donnie. This is here we go. How
far left is this guy? Well, he's somebody who likes
to talk about globalizing the Intifada. This is from Meet
(29:11):
the Press over the weekend, play sixteen.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I want to give you an opportunity to respond here
and now. Do you condemn that phrase globalize the Intafada?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
That's not language that I use. The language that I
use and the language that I will continue to use
to lead the city is that which speaks clearly to
my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief
in universal human rights. And ultimately that's what is the
foundation of so much of my politics, the belief that
freedom and justice and safety are things that to have
meaning have to be applied to all people, and that
(29:42):
includes Israelis and Poalstings's.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Life, Clay, did you hear a condemnation of globalized the
Intifada from that guy?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I didn't hear a condemnation. I heard.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I heard a lot of swerving around there. I heard
locking up the brakes on the ice and trying not
to go off the road.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, and by the way, this is sad new but
I think it directly ties in with why this is important.
The eighty two year old woman in Boulder who was
a victim of that sort of molotov cocktail attack, she's
just died. I mean that news has just come down.
So I just want you to think about everybody out there.
How much did you hear about the death of the
(30:20):
woman in Charlottesville, Virginia during that protest, Versus how much
you've heard about this Boulder protest and the eighty two
year old woman who died there.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I bet that there has.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Been I bet one to one thousandth of the overall
media coverage of the Boulder molotov cocktail attack compared to
what happened in Charlottesville.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And they talked about Charlottesville for years.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Joe Biden said that the whole reason he ran for
president was because of what happened in Charlottesville, and he's
constantly propagating the very fine people hoax. But all of this,
what you're establishing is that the Democrat Party space for
treating hamas as though Hamas is better than white nationalists,
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and Hamas is actually a deeply evil entity that has
horrible racist, anti Jewish, not just ideology, it's based on
really anti Jewish ideology based on anti s that's eradicating
the entire nation of Israel. The truth is Hamas has
far more blood on its hands and is far scarier
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than white nationalists have been in America in a very
very in any of our lives, in any of our lives,
and very you'd have to go back a long ways
for white nationalists to be as scary as Hamas actually is.
And yet one of them is allowable discourse at some
level in the Democrat Party. And this is why Mom,
Donnie won't say he's got a problem with it. Let's
play seventeen once again. He won't condemn globalize the Intifada,
(31:50):
which he used to say, do.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
You condemn that phase? Globalize the Intofado, which a lot
of people here is a call to violence against Jews.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
I've heard from many Jewish New York who have shared
their concerns with me, especially in light of the horrific
attacks that we saw in Washington, d c. And in
Colder in Boulder, Colorado, about this moment of anti Semitism
in our country and in our city. And I've heard
those fears, and I've had those conversations, and ultimately they
are part and parcel of why in my campaign I've
(32:19):
put forward a commitment to increase funding for anti hate
crime programming by eight hundred percent. I don't believe that
the role of the mayor is to police speech in
the manner, especially of that of Donald Trump, who has
put one New Yorker in jail who has just returned
to his family, Mahamud Khalil, for that very supposed crime
of speech.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Just a bunch of gibberish. He won't upset his base,
which includes people who hit Israel and want the Jewish
Day to be destroyed. Not just he won't upset them.
I'm not saying he necessarily is totally aligned with them,
although maybe.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But he will not upset them. Well.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And I think what you said is really important as
we go to break here, to think about think about
how much time the media has spent. Any time anybody
says anything that could be considered white supremacy adjacent, it
is immediately connected to the Republican Party, and there's an
immediate rush out to every Republican and they say, will
you condemn right the amount of time that they do
(33:18):
the coverage on will you condemn.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, the David Duke thing. Yeah, I even know. I swear.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
The last time they asked Trump about David Duke I
think was twenty sixteen. I didn't even know the guy
was still alive. I had no idea. If you had
told me David Duke was dead, I was yeah, totally.
He probably died fifteen years ago. I have no idea
have to ask in a presidential election you condemned David Duke?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Like this is all they.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Do all the time. How often do they ask? Will
you condemn globalize the Intifada? Will you condemn language which
clearly embraces Hamas Heck, will you condemn people walking through
the streets of New York City with Palestinian flax? Never
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Speaker 1 (35:02):
Do it today. I think this is going to.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Be classified as the nerdiest correction that has ever existed
in the history of the program. Producer Greg is fired up.
Lots of you vip nerds are also fired up. I'm
just going to read this. I have no idea what
any of this means. Ara Gorn returned to Minas Tirith
after the Battle of the Pelliner Fields. He sailed to
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the city with his forces after defeating the corsairs of
Umbar at Pelagear. This is where he was crowned King Lasar,
the first high king.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Of the reunited Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I am sorry for being even required to read that
but the nerd army out there has risen up over
your your I don't know any of this.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I read the books back in the day.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
But Gondor is the name of the king meanes Hereth
is the city, the fake kingdom and the fake city.
But yes, okay, sorry nerds. I'm a nerd too. But
sorry fellow nerds.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
In this particular occasion, what I would say is I
like pretty girls, and therefore I do not know any
of that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So we like ten emails.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
We gott like ten emails about this in a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Like people, really, that's a lot of on one topic.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Some of you are really worried about your message board cred.
You don't like pretty girls. But that's okay, So nerds
out there who like to be on message boards and
like to argue about sci fi, I apologize to you all.
I'm evidently getting lit up also over my top five
cities list, which I'm going to tweet out and is
going to provoke a firestorm. We'll get into this. There's
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a bunch of stuff going on. Didty jury deliberations are underway.
To generally jump to Fountain in Kentucky. This is amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You and I both think Diddy either hung jury or
not guilty.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Right, That's what we think. That's right. I think we'll yes,
mayor Pete.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
We got some fun with this and AOC getting lit
up all that final hour.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Next
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Monday edition of the program.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
As I know many of you are likely to be
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Road, I would encourage you, as always go download the podcast.
You can search out my name Clay Travis, you can
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We also have a fabulous podcast network with voices that
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Katherine Ham who have a great show, to badass former
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and beyond, and you'll be able to take us with
you wherever you may be. If you're on the road,
you need something good to listen to. I was listening
to some podcasts on my drive down to the Gulf
(01:24):
of America on Saturdays in the car for about nine hours,
lots of traffic, and got through a lot of different
cool podcasts. So I know a lot of you are
going to be on the road and Buck as we
went to break at the end of that first hour,
we were talking about some of the situation that's going
on in New York City where Mom Donnie, this crazy
(01:45):
left wing effective communist, has won the nomination for the
Democrat side of the mayoralty. There has not yet been
a decision by Andrew Cuomo about whether he's going to
run as an independent or drop out. To me, and
I'm just kind of assessing this from afar, the decision
has to be Eric Adams versus Mom Donnie. I think
(02:08):
that's the only way Mom Donnie loses if there's multiple independence.
If you have a Republican nominee like Curtis Lee while
running aggressively. I just don't the more opposition there is
to Mom Donnie, the better it is for his likelihood.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But I bet you were like me.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Over the weekend, a lot of deep dives into his
videos started to go public, and these are I would say,
truly outrageous perspectives that he has adopted publicly. And I
know you've been following it. You've got some you want
to kind of shine a spotlight on.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Jane because I keep hoping that New York is going
to wake up and go through a Juliani Bloomberg Golden
era again. But you have a lot of people that
know nothing about that era. That's part of the problem.
The people like me who grew up in very, very
dangerous New York City, and I would people who say,
oh no, it was very dangerous in the seventies. The
(03:05):
most dangerous was the late eighties early nineties. By the numbers,
no question, go check it out for yourself. Over two
thousand murders in New York City when I was in
grammar school in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, two thousand
plus murders. Think about that, all right, New York City
has gotten down as low as I think below three
hundred at one point in the last decades, so massive, massive,
(03:25):
And people say, well, that's just murders. Yeah, but murders
are very very solid proxy for overall pretticularly violent crime,
but crime in general. It's tough to hide dead bodies
and people are upset about them, right, Burglaries don't necessarily
get reported or investigated. I mean, there's other things ways
you can mess with the stats murders or murders. So
(03:46):
a lot of people Clay who voted for Momdani are
either too young, you know he got because he was
huge with gen Z, or they came here in the
last fifteen or twenty years they don't know. They're foreigners
who have become you know, green card holders, or they
maybe become citizens, and now they're saying, oh, yeah, I
like this guy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Like what he's saying.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
He's going to make you know, he's going to make
food cheaper in the kabab stands, he's going to make
groceries cheaper, and he's talking about all this stuff. Let's
get into some of the things that this guy has
actually said. The Kami mom Donnie here he is. I mean,
we got so many of these. I'll start with this one.
He talked about increasing. Well here, let's do this one first, billionaires.
(04:26):
We shouldn't even have this is cut seven. We shouldn't
even have billionaires play seven.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You are a self described democratic socialist. Do you think
that billionaires have a right to exist?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I don't think that we should have billionaires because, frankly,
it is so much money in a moment of such inequality,
and ultimately, what we need more of is equality across
our city and across our state and across our country.
And I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires,
to make a city that is fairer for all of them.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I hate this so much because we can sit here, Clay,
and we will and make all the arguments about how
you can take all the money from the I don't know,
one hundred two hundred billionaires whatever it is in New
York City, or a few hundred billionaires, maybe maximum you
could take all the money that they have and try
to redistribute it. You wouldn't solve poverty in New York
City for a year, Okay, it wouldn't change it. They're
(05:20):
spending fourteen billion a year just on the illegals in
New York City fourteen billion a year on special care
for illegals. You think you're going to seize a few
hundred billion dollars from New York's billionaires, you're going to
fix the problems. But even beside that, the whole argument
here is just one about envy. It's one about emotion.
This is why it's so pernicious and why communism keeps
(05:41):
creeping up wherever, you know, wherever there's prosperity in the West,
and it's because it just makes people who are upset
feel better about themselves to think that there's some other
person who's their problem.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Look, I really do think it sums up the flaw
of capitalism is it create wealth and leisure, which leads
to the illusion that capitalism is unnecessary and the reason
we have the wealth and the leisure that exists in
this country. And by leisure, I mean you don't have
to constantly be in a mad scramble to have water
(06:18):
or food or the ability to you know, the poor
people in the United States are not actually poor relative
to the standards for what poverty looks like in the
rest of the world.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Are poor people.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think one of the great stats that kind of
brings this home. Even in a country like India, the
poorest people in the United States would be in the
top twenty percent richest in India. That's true for almost
every country that is in the world. The poorest people
here would be among the wealthiest anywhere else. And if
you wonder why people are risking their lives to come
(06:52):
through the Darien Gap during the Biden era or come
across the Rio Grande, it's because even being poor in
the United States makes you wealthy in many other countries.
And that's an incredible degree that we have.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But the poverty, it comes along with obesity in this country,
which is an excess for example, of food. There's a
correlation between poverty and obesity. There were times, actually, like
all of human history, for the last one hundred or
so years, where poverty and starvation were actually what we're
correlated and actually being fat was a sign of tremendous
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wealth because it meant that you had to your point
all come to tell my wife, but she wanted me
to get in shape anyway. You know, it's kind of
sad if you go back.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And look at all the kings you know in England
back in the day, for instance, when they became super wealthy,
they were often very fat because that meant that you
had the ability to have too much to eat, which
was a rarity.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But the billionaire thing to me is it's it's it's so.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Important for everybody to focus on. First of all, I
want there to be way more billionaires. I want there
to be way more millionaires. I want the overall pie
of economic wealth in the United States to grow massively,
and I want everybody to be able to feast on
economic success, whatever your current status of life is.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But this is so.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Important, and I think you're a perfect example of this
because what this happens is and you're going to start
to see this in earnest. I think I would even
argue this is a generational story that you need to
put a pin in and pay attention to. People who
have success in life, who have wealth are far more
(08:35):
mobile in general than people who do not have success
in life and do not have great opportunity. Right with
wealth comes the ability to go to different places to
relocate your life. And what a lot of people found
out during COVID is they could move to different parts
of the United States or even the world, and they
(08:57):
would have never tested it but for COVID, and they
found out, Hey, I can be running Wall Street from
Miami just as well as I can from Greenwich, Connecticut,
or a super luxury pad somewhere in a high rise
building overlooking Central Park. And what you are going to see.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And I want all of you to kind of think
about this because it's going to happen La Chicago, New
York City.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
They are going to increasingly tax the successful people in
these communities. And Mom Donnie is reflective of this, and
the successful people, the most successful people in those communities.
You just saw Ken Griffin Citadel. He just up and said,
screw it, Chicago's not safe. I'm moving all my people
to Miami. You are going to see. I just mentioned Buck,
(09:45):
born and raised New York City kid who probably would
love to have stayed in New York City. But you
start to have success and you look at other parts
of the country and they're they're grabbing so much of
your money that at some point you just say enough,
deal with this anymore, even in a city that you
may have grown up in and looked yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And it's frustrating because you can also see the recent
history of cities that have gone down this pathway, and
it is universally a bad idea. It universally creates more
negative things, whether it's crime, disorder, you filth on the streets,
economic light from the city is we go through this
(10:28):
over and over again. But this brings me back, Clay.
The reason I'm concerned about Mamdani is that he is good.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
He is slick.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
He is adept at appealing to people's emotions who are
frustrated and who don't want to even get into the
merits of the argument. They want an excuse. It is
the politics of envy. Somebody else has it better than me.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
By the way, you don't even know.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I mean, there's some of the happiest people I know
lead some of the most humble and basic lives, and
truly some of the most miserable people I know have
them most money and the most influence and the most power,
and they just can't escape their daily misery. But put
that aside for a second. And I know that sounds
like a cliche, I swear it is true, Okay, I
mean I could go through chapter and verse people who have,
(11:13):
you know, having a very sort of you know, not
moditor is not the word I'm looking for what do
you call modest, very modest life in America, and they're
very very happy, and people who have incredible lives of
extravagance and they're truly miserable. But again, aside Clay, this
is the politics of somebody is excusing all of my
choices and says they're going to make my problems go away.
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And it never works. It never works. It's not going
to work this time. It has never worked before. But
people like to believe this is why socialism is actually
a religion. I mean, communism is a religion. This is
not an economic system because the economics can't work.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
We just went through it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You can take all the money from the rich people
in New York, it's not going to pay for all
the poor people stuff forever. It's not going to make
the poor people not pulled. But it doesn't matter, it
doesn't matter. They want this, they feel this, and Mamdanni
feeds it to them, he gives it to them. He
makes it seem like none of this is anyone's fault.
No one's station in life is the result of choices,
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no one's.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's the system. And what's going to happen is.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The system is going to have a lot less money
because when you go dive into the actual revenue produced
by taxation, the billionaires that Mamdanni claims shouldn't exist. In fact,
if New York wants to have the best quality of life,
they should have way more billionaires. They're going to leave,
and then that's going to create a vicious cycle because
you're going to have to increase taxes in order to
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try to replicate the services that the taxes are creating.
Now the tax dollars are going to leave. They're going
to go to states like Florida, Tennessee, Texas where there's
zero state income tax. I mean, again, this is a
generational flaw of Democrats that I think is going to
be exposed in a big way. And again, if you
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make a million dollars, let's say you make a million
dollars a year. Not that many people who make a
million dollars a year. Let's say you do. You're paying
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars extra for the privilege
of living in New York City. Okay, if you make
ten million, you're paying one point five million dollars for
the privilege of living in New York. You're getting up
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to the high levels above ten million dollars. Think about
even at a million dollars, you can pay an entire
mortgage living in Tennessee or Texas or Florida. That increases
your assets compared to what you're paying. And people would say, Okay, well,
there's a benefit to living in New York City, right
or Chicago or La. I'm here to tell y'all, I've
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spent a lot of time in all these places. It's
fun to visit. There's no city in America I would
pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars extra of my
tax dollars to live in compared to Florida, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Or Texas.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Now you guys, have you guys have good food in
Nashville too. I can't even I can't even throw shade
at some of these other cities thirty years ago, New Yorkers.
I'm just telling you guys the truth. New Yorkers could
be like, honestly, we just have better food than you guys.
And that was true of most cities in America thirty
years ago, maybe even twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Nashville, Charleston, you know, Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean you just look like you know Phoenix, the Play.
These places all have great food now. I mean it's
great food.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's not even.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Cool enough to know good restaurant stuff. I would never
even noticed that. But I am told that the foody
scene for people who love restaurants in a city like
where I live, Nashville, is out of control.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
E can't even keep up well in Nashville. Nashville punch
his way above its way. But every decent mid size
city and above in America has great food now. So
I'm saying some of the advantages that New York used
to have as a place. New York, Chicago, and LA
used to just have better job opportunities and better food
than most of the rest of the country. And it's
just you could say, you want to live in a
rural area, that's great, that's fine. But if you're looking
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to work at a top law firm and you want
to go to a Michelin three star restaurant, those were
really in San Francisco too. Those are really the choices
that you had, which is not true anymore. To your point,
you can do these jobs from wherever.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's got great food. You can buy anything anywhere you
want now thanks to the Internet. But Clay, I mean,
we can make these arguments all day. Here's a stat
one percent of New Yorkers pay fifty percent of New
York City's tax rate. One percent, one in one hundred
people are paying for fifty people. And Mamdani's like, that's
not enough, it's unequal. How much more does it have
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The Brick nations are meeting.
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Okay, now, these nations want to move away from the
US dollar as the reserve currency. They're trying to do
this slowly, but surely. If that happens, our quality of
life takes a huge hit and the dollar takes a bath,
it's going to be rough.
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
We're continuing the conversation about New York and amenities and
things like, certainly for jobs and professions.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But I was pointing out when I was.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
A kid, we'd take a trip to New York every
I don't know, I probably went two or three times
from you know, when I was a twelve thirteen year
old to eighteen year old something like that, which probably
ships passing in the night of the arcade, you know,
But bookstores for me was a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
When I was a kid growing up, I tried to
read and I still read all the time, but we
had Walden Books. Walden Books doesn't exist anymore. But those
of you who grew up around my age or a
little bit older, will remember you would go to a
mall and there was a bookstore, and they had a
relatively limited collection of books, and I wanted to read
all the time. You didn't have Amazon. It was hard
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to order books back in the day. What amenities other
than Broadway? What amenities does New York City offer that
you can't find in Dallas or Houston, or Nashville or Miami.
There's not very many anymore because the world has evolved
in a big way. You mentioned restaurants, bookstores. The cultural
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are not what they once were. And I think a
lot of people are recognizing that.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I mean, if you live in a nice suburb of
any decent city in America, you can get all the
good stuff you want, of all kinds.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's the change here.
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the King, Clay, I am aer gorn, waiting to come
back to what was the name of the city, guys, producer, Greg,
you're into nerd stuff like me. What was the name
(19:43):
of the of the Return of the King city in
the Lord of the Rings?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You know what I mean. I don't remember. By the way,
I don't even think New York.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I don't even think New York City's top five American
cities anymore. You're killing me, Clay, You're killing me. I
mean seriously, like New York City. I just think threw
a rough patch. It's like New York has gained ten
pounds and needs a shave. But it's still beautiful. It's
still beautiful. Okay, So all right here we go. I'm
trying to remember them. I can't believe I can't remember
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the name of Lord of the Ring city, but that
was my Return of the King reference. We do have
to talk about greatest movie of the twenty first century,
I might meanest teif is that right, that was the
name of the city. Yeah, I guess that is the
name of the city. Thank you, producer Greg.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That is a super nerd pull by producer Greg. I
had never I would not get that. Producer Greg had
my back on that one. I knew he was gonna
get that one fast.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So yeah, I think that eventually New York is gonna
be awesome and I'm gonna return. We're gonna play the
song Return of the Mac, which is one of the greatest,
greatest anthems of the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A great song we agree on.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
This is a fantastic song, and we were all gonna
all of us who have fled. Maybe we're not going
to move back to New York, but we will go
back at some point in the future when sanity rains.
It is a beautiful, wonderful place. It'll be like the
Golden Age under Giuliani's Bloomberg. I'm hoping. I'm hoping that's
gonna happen. In the meantime, we got to deal with
the madness of Mamdanni Takami and here he is on
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Now this goes for some of you who are like Buck,
it's just this one city and it's not gonna affect
me a few things. First of all, New York, California,
these are places that have the kind of political poll
where if they keep running into huge financial problems, you
know what, they're gonna want federal bailout, which they're not
going to get under Trump, but you don't think they'll
get that under Democrat administration. Clay, you know, California's budget
deficit this year something like thirty billion dollars. Oh yeah,
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thirty They don't have them. They don't have a printing
press in California. They can't just you know, inflate that away.
They're gonna want the federal government to help them out
at some point if they keep this madness up. So
and New York's budget's way too big. As I said,
two hundred and forty gondor thank you friend, that's Gondor
what is mean that one makes?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I gave producer Greg Way too much credit to or
that one I've heard of.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I was like the name that he came up with.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I didn't Yeah, yeah, prducer Greg went like too deep
in the nerddom there meaness here, I think that's like
the castle or something. I don't think that's actually, yeah, Gondor,
thank you to one of our listeners for Steam listeners
for hooking me up there. So I think I'll return,
like Eric Gorn to Gondor to New York at some
point because it still has a lot of great stuff. Essentially,
(22:18):
Clay always said, you always have fun when we're in
New York.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You're big.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I actually I actually sketched out my top five cities
in America right now pro sports cities, because I don't
want people.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Getting mad at me because you know, like I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Picking with pro sports team if you leave out, like
if you know, like Louisville can't count because Louisville doesn't
have a sports pro sports team.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean I'm just saying, like, at some point
you have to decide like a city, because I know
we have a lot of people who live in smaller
towns and I'm not like taking a shot at them,
but I think you have to consider the fifty biggest
cities in America.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
For instance, what is your top five, you Heathen, what
is your top so number one?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Ishville and that broader community too, because we have a
more on Mayor right now. But I'm born and raised
and I'm gonna be a little bit biased. Nashville is
the best city in America and might always humble and
unbiased opinion. Uh, Phoenix, I've got his number two.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Oh, Phoenix is fabulous. I've never been, so I can't.
I can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
But I'm not counting suburban areas of these cities too,
So like Scottsdale, which I think is an amazing place, Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I've got Miami where you live. At three.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I really like South Florida broadly again, South Florida. And
then I've got I really like Salt Lake City. I
think Salt Lake City is a jewel underrated Lake City.
Oh yeah, it's fabulous. You're really getting You're really getting frisky.
And then and then in the five spot, this is
where I'm gonna be a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think he's just going with places, by the way,
where our ratings are through the You got to throw
Milwaukee in there, just because we get so much Milwaukee
love on the ratings.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I love Milwaukee in the summer. I love a city
where I just was the northern Michigan area. I'm not
a cold weather guy, so I'm admittedly telling all of you.
I would not live in these places. I'm being a
little bit, a little bit of a coward here to
be fair. And then I've got because these cities hate
each other and they have a perpetual rivalry. Houston slash Dallas,
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Houston slash Dallas. They hate each other. But that would
be my five. These are my five biggest best places.
And you'll notice they are all in now again, Arizona
voted red and there happened to be number one in Houston.
And have I see with Clay, I like this. Clay's like, hey,
where do we have the largest where do we have
sports arena sized audiences listening right now?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
He's like, I love you Houston. I mean I love
you Houston too, because so many of you listen. But
I don't know enough about the city to put it
on my list. So that'd be my top five. And
again I admit that I am biased against cold weather locations,
and I'm also biased against.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Blue states and blue city I'm not willing. I would
not be willing to live in a blue state blue
city environ right now. I just don't trust the decisions
they're making.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
The top five city five is hard for me. I mean,
for me, the top cities in America right now for me?
For me, you ever can disagree this is this is
like favorite ice cream flavor, which we all know should
be pistachio. Unlike Clay, I don't even know that, Like
pistachio is such a rich kid ice cream choice. Like
I don't even know how many average ice cream shops
(25:32):
even have pistachio, Like does does Baskin Robbins thirty one
flavors was one of them?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Pistachio. I was actually talking about this with my wife
the other.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, first of all, you make it worse when you
say pistachio. Okay, it's pistachio. Pistachio.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was talking about this with my wife because there's
tons of ice cream shops now when I was cause
we were talking about like you had Dairy Queen, and
after Dairy Queen you would get in the back of
some dad's pick up truck and they just drive you
or get arrested for that. Now, there was hardly any
ice cream shops when I was a kid growing up.
Baskin Robbins was it. Now They're everywhere we go for
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ice cream all the time.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Oh, I'm just telling you. If you look on top ten,
top twenty lists, pistachio generally sneaks.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
In there around you know, eighteen of the lists. Yeah,
something like that. I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'd never even know that was an ice cream flavor
when I was a kid. My beloved parents, my wonderful parents,
love strawberry ice cream. That's good choice. That's number three.
It goes chocolate, vanilla, strawberry.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think for people, I think they now, I would
say cookie dough has surged up the rankings that didn't
exist when I was a kid. It's it's really really good.
Cookie dough ice cream is a killer, uh, you know,
like game changer app. That's the only real I would
say flavor that has taken off. I bet cookie dough
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is like top six seven now. And then they have
the super Man, which every kid likes. I think you're
leaving out as we're going into this holiday weekend. Two,
we're giving you all these great ideas for ice cream.
You know, my wife makes homemade ice cream, which I
like to blame for some of my weight game that
occurred a couple of years ago. Yeah, I had I
had the ice cream what flavor did she make that.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was like, this is maybe the best ice cream
I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I think she made toasted almond cherry when you were here.
I think that's what she made. Amazing, it was, it's
it's legitimately. I told her, I said, this is maybe
the best ice cream I've ever Yes, she makes the
best ice cream. It's once you start making homemade ice cream,
it's amazing because you're gonna love.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It, but also it's dangerous. It's dangerous.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
All of a sudden, you're just like, this is the
best ice cream I ever had. All Right, let's get
back to commim. Oh wait, I was gonna give you
my top cities then we'll talk commy mom Donnie for me.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's uh, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I can't even give it a New York's on the
injured reserve list right now. New York has said.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It was still the best. Now you're not even one.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's it's it's the it's the franchise player Clay but
has a strained achilles.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's like it's like Halliburton or whatever from from the Pacers,
like strained achilles or pulled achilles.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
New York on injured reserve still in the top five.
I have to agree Nashville's the top five city. Miami
for me obviously very high on that list. I have
a real soft spot for Charleston, and I always want
to say Charleston slash doesn't count because they're similar to me.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Doesn't counts either.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm eliminating it because doesn't have y got to go
top fifty. So yeah, look Greenville, South Carolina. Amazing place.
No I went Roague there. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I forgot about the rules. I went Rogue. Man, I'd
have to I have to think beyond the beyond the
top three. I have to think about you do your
list san Diego. San Diego is in California, but San.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Diego is an awesome city. It's amazing place.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I'm eliminating blue city in blue states because I
don't trust the people running those places.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'll go blue city in a red state because at
least you have the balance of some larger top cover.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, Austin should be, you know, Austin, I think twenty
years ago would have definitely been on my top five.
But man, the commis have run wild in that place.
So all right, let's get speaking of commies. Let's get
back to mom, Donnie. This is here we go. How
far left is this guy? Well, he's somebody who likes
to talk about globalizing the Intifada. This is from Meet
(29:11):
the Press over the weekend, play sixteen.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I want to give you an opportunity to respond here
and now. Do you condemn that phrase globalize the Intafada?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
That's not language that I use. The language that I
use and the language that I will continue to use
to lead the city is that which speaks clearly to
my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief
in universal human rights. And ultimately that's what is the
foundation of so much of my politics, the belief that
freedom and justice and safety are things that to have
meaning have to be applied to all people, and that
(29:42):
includes Israelis and Poalstings's.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Life, Clay, did you hear a condemnation of globalized the
Intifada from that guy?
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I didn't hear a condemnation. I heard.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I heard a lot of swerving around there. I heard
locking up the brakes on the ice and trying not
to go off the road.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, and by the way, this is sad new but
I think it directly ties in with why this is important.
The eighty two year old woman in Boulder who was
a victim of that sort of molotov cocktail attack, she's
just died. I mean that news has just come down.
So I just want you to think about everybody out there.
How much did you hear about the death of the
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woman in Charlottesville, Virginia during that protest, Versus how much
you've heard about this Boulder protest and the eighty two
year old woman who died there.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I bet that there has.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Been I bet one to one thousandth of the overall
media coverage of the Boulder molotov cocktail attack compared to
what happened in Charlottesville.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And they talked about Charlottesville for years.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Joe Biden said that the whole reason he ran for
president was because of what happened in Charlottesville, and he's
constantly propagating the very fine people hoax. But all of this,
what you're establishing is that the Democrat Party space for
treating hamas as though Hamas is better than white nationalists,
(31:06):
and Hamas is actually a deeply evil entity that has
horrible racist, anti Jewish, not just ideology, it's based on
really anti Jewish ideology based on anti s that's eradicating
the entire nation of Israel. The truth is Hamas has
far more blood on its hands and is far scarier
(31:28):
than white nationalists have been in America in a very
very in any of our lives, in any of our lives,
and very you'd have to go back a long ways
for white nationalists to be as scary as Hamas actually is.
And yet one of them is allowable discourse at some
level in the Democrat Party. And this is why Mom,
Donnie won't say he's got a problem with it. Let's
play seventeen once again. He won't condemn globalize the Intifada,
(31:50):
which he used to say, do.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
You condemn that phase? Globalize the Intofado, which a lot
of people here is a call to violence against Jews.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
I've heard from many Jewish New York who have shared
their concerns with me, especially in light of the horrific
attacks that we saw in Washington, d c. And in
Colder in Boulder, Colorado, about this moment of anti Semitism
in our country and in our city. And I've heard
those fears, and I've had those conversations, and ultimately they
are part and parcel of why in my campaign I've
(32:19):
put forward a commitment to increase funding for anti hate
crime programming by eight hundred percent. I don't believe that
the role of the mayor is to police speech in
the manner, especially of that of Donald Trump, who has
put one New Yorker in jail who has just returned
to his family, Mahamud Khalil, for that very supposed crime
of speech.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Just a bunch of gibberish. He won't upset his base,
which includes people who hit Israel and want the Jewish
Day to be destroyed. Not just he won't upset them.
I'm not saying he necessarily is totally aligned with them,
although maybe.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
But he will not upset them. Well.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And I think what you said is really important as
we go to break here, to think about think about
how much time the media has spent. Any time anybody
says anything that could be considered white supremacy adjacent, it
is immediately connected to the Republican Party, and there's an
immediate rush out to every Republican and they say, will
you condemn right the amount of time that they do
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the coverage on will you condemn.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Well, the David Duke thing. Yeah, I even know. I swear.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
The last time they asked Trump about David Duke I
think was twenty sixteen. I didn't even know the guy
was still alive. I had no idea. If you had
told me David Duke was dead, I was yeah, totally.
He probably died fifteen years ago. I have no idea
have to ask in a presidential election you condemned David Duke?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Like this is all they.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Do all the time. How often do they ask? Will
you condemn globalize the Intifada? Will you condemn language which
clearly embraces Hamas Heck, will you condemn people walking through
the streets of New York City with Palestinian flax? Never
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your Cardio mobile six L. That's the number ten, as
in ten percent off the Cardia Model six Clay, ten
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percent off.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Do it today. I think this is going to.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Be classified as the nerdiest correction that has ever existed
in the history of the program. Producer Greg is fired up.
Lots of you vip nerds are also fired up. I'm
just going to read this. I have no idea what
any of this means. Ara Gorn returned to Minas Tirith
after the Battle of the Pelliner Fields. He sailed to
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the city with his forces after defeating the corsairs of
Umbar at Pelagear. This is where he was crowned King Lasar,
the first high king.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Of the reunited Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I am sorry for being even required to read that
but the nerd army out there has risen up over
your your I don't know any of this.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I read the books back in the day.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
But Gondor is the name of the king meanes Hereth
is the city, the fake kingdom and the fake city.
But yes, okay, sorry nerds. I'm a nerd too. But
sorry fellow nerds.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
In this particular occasion, what I would say is I
like pretty girls, and therefore I do not know any
of that.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So we like ten emails.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
We gott like ten emails about this in a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Like people, really, that's a lot of on one topic.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Some of you are really worried about your message board cred.
You don't like pretty girls. But that's okay, So nerds
out there who like to be on message boards and
like to argue about sci fi, I apologize to you all.
I'm evidently getting lit up also over my top five
cities list, which I'm going to tweet out and is
going to provoke a firestorm. We'll get into this. There's
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a bunch of stuff going on. Didty jury deliberations are underway.
To generally jump to Fountain in Kentucky. This is amazing.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You and I both think Diddy either hung jury or
not guilty.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Right, That's what we think. That's right. I think we'll yes,
mayor Pete.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
We got some fun with this and AOC getting lit
up all that final hour.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
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