September 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful mix of political analysis, cultural commentary, and heartfelt reflection in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. This hour features an exclusive interview with Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, who discusses President Trump’s decision to deploy the National Guard to Memphis to combat violent crime and gang activity. Blackburn outlines the success of recent federal operations like Operation Viper and emphasizes the strategic importance of Memphis as a logistics hub vulnerable to organized crime.
The hour also explores the cultural and moral decay exposed by the public celebration of Kirk’s death, particularly among taxpayer-funded employees. Clay and Buck highlight the firing of a University of Tennessee professor who posted vile comments about Kirk’s family, reinforcing their call for accountability and moral standards in public institutions. They argue that celebrating political assassination is a failure of basic humanity and should result in termination from any publicly funded role.
Listeners hear from callers across the country, including parents whose children are starting Turning Point USA chapters in honor of Charlie Kirk’s legacy. The hosts celebrate this grassroots movement as a positive response to tragedy, encouraging young Americans to stand up for free speech, faith, and conservative values.
A standout moment comes from University of Oregon football coach Dan Lanning, who publicly condemned Kirk’s assassination and expressed support for his family. Clay and Buck praise Lanning’s courage in speaking out from a blue state, urging listeners to support cultural figures who take principled stands.
The hour also touches on the role of social media in radicalizing youth, with Senator Blackburn advocating for stronger online safety legislation and parental involvement. The hosts emphasize the importance of reaching young audiences through modern platforms like TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, continuing Charlie Kirk’s mission to meet people where they are.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going
to dive into President Trump's announcement last week that he's
going to be bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which,
according to many measures of violent crime on a per
capita basis, may well be the most dangerous city in
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the entire country. But I want to start with this,
Senator Blackburn. First of all, I missed you in Knoxville,
where you and I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game,
which did not end well for the good guys in
this case the team wearing orange. But I know that
you were all over the place there and it's a
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sporting event. But I bet you had a similar experience
as I did, Senator Blackburn, which is the number of
people who came up to me that wanted to talk
about what happened to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event,
was unlike anything I've ever seen before. No One usually
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people want to come up and it's almost exclusively, Hey,
who's going to win the game? What do you think
is going to happen? Almost everybody that came up to
me at the sporting event wanted to talk about the
Charlie Kirk situation. I not asked you this, but I
bet you found it to be similar as well. And
I know you have a grandson that attends the same
school as my sons, and the impact on young men
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in particular of this assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But
their response has been I have seen very profoundly courageous.
I've been very encouraged. So that's a big prelude, But
I'm curious what you found in both those situations.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, indeed, I will tell you. I have been just
so honored about the conduct of my grandsons and their
classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie Kirk
and for the remembrance of nine eleven. And our grandson
even noticed that the flags had not been moved to
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half staff before before class started, so he walked out
to the flagpole and he lowered the flag to half staff,
and I think one of the teachers kind of got
in behind him a little bit about it, but he
said he was following the president's order for all flags
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to fly at half staff until six pm on Sunday,
and I said, you know, if that's what you get
in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing. Honoring someone
who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their lives in
our military, who fought after nine to eleven, in all
of those brave first responders, and doing what the President
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said was the order of the day, which was lowering
the flags. And you're right about being get University of Tennessee.
We could hardly get through the crowd, like you said,
without people saying, look, we stand with Charlie Kirk, we
stand with family values in Tennessee values and morals, and
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we stand with the President. And it was just such
an outpouring, I think for so many college students, whether
you were there in Circle Park or at one of
the fraternity houses or wherever play. It was astounding to
me that these kids were such a fan of Charlie Kirk.
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They listened to him, they followed him, they enjoyed his podcast,
and they wanted to They love the way he speaks
truth and have so gravitated to that. They loved President Trump,
and they just wanted to register their shock and they're
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just appointment with what had happened and their grief in
many respects. And we had a great sermon yesterday at
our church and the minister said something I think is
so important is that while we turn the other cheek,
and we know to turn the other cheek through evil,
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we cannot turn a blind eye. And that is incumbent
on us to remember that we have to push back
and fight against evil. And it is pure evil that
caused someone to try to silence Charlie Kirk. And as
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we have seen, his message now will be more powerful
than ever. The outpouring of support for Charlie and his
work for Erica and their children. It is not singular,
but it is global in nature, and indeed, I think
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this is truly a turning point.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also
getting some attention in the news cycle today is the
move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and
bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to
help tackle the out of control murder rate in the
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city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know
about this so far, what stage is the planning and
do you believe that this would be able to have
a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful.
And what we know is this Cash Battel gave me
a commitment when he came to meet with me before
his hearing for his FBI confirmation, and I'm on Senate
Judiciary Committee. I asked him in my office and then
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again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis
and getting an FBI surge in Memphis. Under President Trump's
first term, we had a program there called Legend. It
had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed
something back. So this summer for two months we had
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Operation Viper. There have been over five hundred arrest There
have already been over one hundred indictments. We know Memphis
has one hundred games. They have a per capital murder
rate of twenty five hundred per one hundred thousand. That
is why it's the most dangerous city in the country.
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We know that during the surge, Memphis had the best
August it has had in years. Whether it's murders or
rapes or sifts burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been
down and significantly down. Some the best in twenty years,
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some the best in over five years, so this has
made a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over.
They've worked closely with Memphis Police, with the Mayor of Memphis,
and they need to continue this multi phase approach and
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it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So
in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you
will have the National Guard. Now they can go in,
they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can
do traffic. There so many things they can do and
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this will allow Memphis Police, who do have arrest powers
to go in and apprehend others in these gangs and
get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD
needs to be focused is continuing to apprehend these gang
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leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are
doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these sets.
You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we
have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class
A railroads I forty that goes from the east coast
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to the west coast, and you also have fet X.
So when you've got all of this with the river,
the rail the highways, the air cargo, theft is a
big issue, and these gangs have created processes to go
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in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft.
So being able to have the police work with these companies,
whether it's rail or water, our highways and I get
a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important. Also,
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so the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They
are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis
to be safe, We want it to be prosperous. It
is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant it has
a promising future, and a big part of that is
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getting the crime under control.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Center Blackburn, I just Buck and I started off the
show talking about the dark soul of the left in
this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly
to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's a big question,
and it's one that I've been thinking about a lot.
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How do we fix this? Because if your soul is
so dark that when you see a father murdered in
cold blood simply for sitting in front of an open
mic and saying tell me whatever you believe, too, the
soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. How
do we fix the rot in our culture? What can
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we do.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I this is something that talking with people through the
process of legislation that I have worked on with the
Kids Online Safety Act and trying to get that passed.
And you look at what these young people are picking
up on social media. They become isolated. They get onto
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these platforms like Reddit and discord, and they get into
these discussion groups and instead of it being a tool
that opens their mind and something for good, it narrows
their thought process and they become very angry. So I
think the church has a role to play in this.
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I think parents have a role to play in this.
A governance for social media platforms have a role to
play in this. Looking at the mental health of kids,
that is something that has to be done. It's not
going to be fixed by one thing or another thing.
But I do believe that strong families can help. I
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do believe is that getting kids off of these social
media platforms that will help. I do think that incur
And I will say this, I think the Governor of
Utah has done an exemplary job in this getting kids
off these devices. You know, right now, the studies that
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we have seen as we worked on keeping kids safe
and trying to hold social media to account. You know,
kids are spending teenagers are spending as much as eight
hours a day on the phone, yeah, eight hours. Middle
school kids are spending about five. And when they're doing this,
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they're being exposed to things that young minds are not
equipped to see this. I mean, this is why we
have ratings on movies in theaters. You can't take a
tile to an X rated movie. You can't sell them
alcohol or tobacco or firearms. You can't take them to
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a pornographic show or a strip club or sell them magazines.
But on the virtual space, they're exposed to it twenty
four to seven and they become desensitized. And you know,
I just I am and some of my friends. We
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are just praying, deeply, praying that skills will fall from eyes,
and that people will awaken and they will realize what
is happening to our children in our society. That they
will encourage our children to boldly stand for values and
for right and to stand against some of this evil
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presence to come off of these devices. And that means
that adults, parents, teachers, preachers, everyone's going to have to
do their part.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Senator Blackbird always appreciates you. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You got it. Take care by now.
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Speaker 3 (14:57):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck, and
we're going a lot of talkbackts just about this one
point that a caller made about TMZ. We said, we
only want to focus on those who we are sure
were making the horrific decision to celebrate what happened to
our friend Charlie Kirk. A lot of you are telling
me you've done the the sleuthing on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Though.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
We're getting a lot of talkbacks about this. Remember I
didn't say one of the other I'm just saying that
TMZ claims, No, that's not what happened. I have not
dug into the tape. A bunch of you were saying
you have dug into the tape meeting you put simultaneous
to the car chase and TMZ up here, we've got
Chris from Tampa who listens on WFLA play it.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Hey, guys, that TMZ thing is real. They people have
broke down on that video and got the actual car chase.
The announcers on the car chase like whatever time it
was one or something like that matches the clock that's
next behind Harvey when he's doing the interview. When the
people start cheering, as the announcers on the car chase
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said that Trump just said that Charlie Kurt bad, that's
when they started cheering.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I don't I don't have to go back and watch
this and link this up.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I haven't. I've only seen the Hey, that's not what
was going on. If it was going on, then.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We obviously condemn it. If it was what's going on.
But I've just I think it's only fair to note
that they claimed quickly that that wasn't what was going on.
So now we're relying on but a lot of people
are calling and saying that, you know, they've done the analysis,
so uh, they say, no, you know, we're reporting, we're not.
I'm not claiming one way or the other. We're reporting
that this is what they said, and others are saying, no,
that's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
All I can say is this, I ran a media company.
If that had happened when I ran a media company,
I would be deeply concerned about the culture that I
had created, and I would fire everyone. This is one
of the good things about being the boss. You get
to make decisions about the culture that you're going to
allow to exist. A culture that celebrates death, legitimately celebrates
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death is not a culture that I want to be
affiliated with, and so I would I would fire, and
I don't think that's a very difficult decision to make.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And if I were Harvey Levin and that were true,
I wouldn't cover for employees. I would fire them, and
I would do so publicly, because you are the culture
that you create inside of any business, inside of any organization,
and if you've got cheering going on there, I can't
trust the opinion of anybody inside of TMC.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yes, I totally agree with all of that. Let's take
Gretchen and Georgia. Hello, yeah, Gretcha. We got about twenty seconds,
but we want to get you in.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Go ahead, that there's always going to be evil. There's
always going to be evil, and there's always going to
be good, and you can't get rid of evil. Unfortunately. However,
I believe one of the ways to fight it with
these people that are saying these bad things about Charlie,
I think we need to process all the wonderful things
that Charlie has done since the age of eighteen, and
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we need to keep talking to all those people that
he says and brought to Christianity, and we need to
keep talking about Christianity.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
That's how we fight evil.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I want
to give you kind of an indication of what some
faculty members are saying. This is who the University of
Tennessee just fired. She went on social media. This professor
did Tamar Sharinian, and she said his kids are better
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off living in a world without a disgusting psychopath like him,
and his wife is a sick blank for marrying him,
so I don't care about her feelings.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
The world is.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Better off without him, And even those who were claiming
to be sad for his wife and kids, like his
kids are better off living in a world without a
disgusting psychopath like him, and his wife, well, she's a
sick blank for marrying him, so I don't care about
her feelings. That seems pretty If you're a taxpayer, funded
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employee of the University of Tennessee. I don't think you
should be employed in posting those things on public after
a political assassination. There are lots of things she can
do for a living, work being funded by partly my
tax dollars. That seems like a really easy call to me.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, I think anybody who's like, hey, you know what,
this is unacceptable. You're a public employee and you have
decided to post that. I don't think you should be
teaching kids at the University of Tennessee. I don't think
that's a difficult standard.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I also wanted to play this. Dan Lanning is the
coach of the University of Oregon. I'm not going to
say that this is the greatest, most perfect statement that's
ever been made, but Charlie Kirk was a big University
of Oregon fan, and Dan Lanning wanted to acknowledge him
after the game that they played against Northwestern. So this
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is what Dan Lanning said. He's the coach of the
University of Oregon. Oregon pretty blue state. But Dan Lanning
felt that he wanted to speak out about this. It
would have been easy for him to say nothing at all.
I thought this was very well said. Not saying it's perfect,
but I did want to play this because Charlie Kirk
would have been very impressed that this happened. He was
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a huge University of a Oregon fan. He never met
Dan Lanning, but this is what Dan Lanning had to say. Listen,
have you recently found.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Out, like Charlie Kirk was an Oregon fan?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I hurt for his wife, Erica and their kids like
that sort of evil should never exist in our country,
and that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Evil.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I wish the world could learn a little bit of
something from our locker room, because we got.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
A bunch of people with differences in what you got in.
There is a bunch of people love there.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And there's some people that'll be disappointed about how much
I said about this, right, And there'll be some people
that are disappointed that I didn't say enough.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Right now, I really don't care, right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
What I do care about is if you disagree with me,
if you hate me, if you don't like me, just
know this, I love you.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I absolutely love you, right, and life matters.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
And that's no way that Charlie should have experience that
his family should experience.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
That there's no way that evil should exist in this world.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, I reached out to Dan to let him know
that Charlie was a University of Oregon fan and he
wanted to say something after the game. Now, I've been
to a lot of postgame press conferences. A lot of
coaches avoid saying anything because, especially a guy in a
blue state. I'm sure if you go online and you
look that Dan Lanning is getting ripped, I would encourage
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all of you say thank you. Sometimes people ask, hey,
how do we win in a world of culture? You
just heard Dan Lanning there. He's getting ripped by a
lot of people who are saying, how dare he say
something positive about Charlie Kirk and his family? Use your
social media for good? Just a suggestion if you hear
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and see somebody standing up for just speaking out and
taking slings and arrows. One thing for Be and Buck,
we appreciate and love that you guys have our back
and it means a time, trust me. But in the
larger culture, there are people that the left is going
to try to slap down that are influential, that aren't
talking to you every day for three hours go give
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them support, stand up for them.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Clay and I are shock troops, like we're used to.
All the the slings and arrows are meant for us.
We take them and that's the deal. A lot of
other people, though, in positions where they have a platform,
but this is not their job, that support really does
matter because they're not used to it. Clay, I come
across people sometimes who have a public facing job, not
what we do right, not media, and they'll say, you know,
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how is it? You know, do you get upset or
does it bother you when people say these things?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You say?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And I've had to tell them honestly, you get numb
to the psychos. You just love the good people and
that's how you go for it every day. You know
who the good people are, You know who the lunatics are,
and the lunatics their words, you know, sticks and stones.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I think that's true, and your boy is, and probably
hopefully future kids will grow up in a world and
I think, you know, you just got to talk to
the kids. I mean, I think it's somewhat helpful for
my boys that they are able to see the difference
between what people say about me and what day to
day existence with Dad is and I think that in
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all facets of life, it's important to remember that a
lot of what you see online is not true, and
teaching kids that is important. But for people who are
not necessarily in the fight every day, like Buck and
I are, who are used to taking the slings and arrows,
I do think it's been very easy for Dan Lanning
to say nothing at all. It would have been incredibly easy.
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Most coaches are going to choose not to say anything
at all. He when he found out that Charlie Kirk
was a big Oregon fan, he wanted to make sure
that he acknowledged him, that he spoke out even though
he's in a blue state, even though he's in a
prominent position. And I do think that as a culture,
we can embrace people who are willing to do what
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it's right, even though there may be a cost in
them and even though arguably their job is not in
that arena. I thought that what Dan Lanning said was
really impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I hadn't heard of this coach, not surprising to anybody
until you brought this up and told me about this Clay.
And you can just tell this is a man who
wants to sleep well at night and doesn't want to think.
You know what, I could have spoken out and been
a part of the solution, or I could have been
quiet and maybe felt a little bit like I was
being a wimp. Yeah, and he decided that he wanted
to sleep knowing that he took a stand for what's right.
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And I think there are a lot of people out
there who have that that impulse right now, and you know,
they should all be they should all be commended, and
we should hopefully see a lot more of that. Jinny
in South Carolina, Ginny, you wanted a wayh in let's talk.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Hey, I just want to let you know that I
heard where clay Son is fifteen today and he started
the chapter. Now she's wanna let to night that My
daughter is also has a birthday today, she's seventeen, and
she also started the initiative at her high school to
start a Turning Point USA chapter.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
So, happy birthday to your daughter. She's seventeen. My son's
turning fifteen. He did not start. He went to the
I just want to be clear. He went to all
of the events on campus. And there are tons of
young men at his school who were dressing up in
supportive and to Jenny, to your point, this is actually awesome.
There is an overflow reportedly of kids at different high
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schools all over the country, of kids at different colleges
all over the country who want to start their own
Turning Point organizations in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
So we get a lot of questions about young people,
and your daughter's doing exactly what she should be doing.
Happy birthday to her, Jenny, Thank you for calling in.
This is what your kids can do. If you've got
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young boys and they were particularly troubled by what they saw,
and I know a lot of you do young girls
and they were particularly troubled by what they saw, have
him start turning point organizations, Have them speak out and
be courageous and brave on Charlie's behalf. It's turning one
of the most awful stories that any of us have
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ever seen in our lives, a political assassination like this,
into The best positive result that could be is that
we have more people speaking out and creating opportunities for
others all over the country.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Chris in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, you're up.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Chris, Hi there?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, I would like I just heard the Dan Lanning
interview that you guys played. You know, that's what Charlie was.
Charlie was somebody that was in the daylight, exampling his
faith that he loved everybody that was around him, even
the ones as much that came against him as the
ones that came for him. And that is and that
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is key to faith. That is key to what Jesus
Christ teaches us to love everybody. It isn't that you
love this one or that one, because the people across
the Islea want to play games with loving with terms
terms and love are incompatible.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Look, I think that what you are and a lot
of people are recognizing is Charlie's impact was seismic at
finding kids where they are. And this is what we're
trying to do with this show. This is why I've
talked about YouTube, this is why I've talked about TikTok.
This is why heck there is a video version of
the show, is because so many people out there consume
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best way to reach the audience twenty twenty five, we
got to be everywhere. The number of media that existed
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in nineteen ninety five compared to now, you had basically
tell television, cable, and you had radio. Most young people
don't listen to traditional radio. Most young people don't even
watch traditional television anymore. And the reason why there's a
video version of this show is we're trying to go
where the audience is. We want to find them on YouTube,
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we want to find them on TikTok, we want to
find them on Instagram, wherever they are Twitter, certainly where
Buck and I are very active. You got to go
where the audience is. And I think Charlie saw it.
And when you go where the audience is a lot
of people Buck are very very responsive to these arguments,
and they're not seeing them any elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
The heck.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
This is why to me, I still am not going
to give up sports, because a lot of sanity is
in the world of sports. You just heard what Dan
Lanning said. A lot of young men in particular, are
impacted a lot of young women by the coaches around them.
And I love sports and I always will and I'm
going to fight for sports to represent the meritocracy and
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the best of America. And that's what the NFL on
the field tries to do. It's a meritocracy. College football
on the field, it's a meritocracy. The Major League Baseball,
whatever sport is out there, it's the best man or
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Buck, How did Sequan do? Saquan had a good game,
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And your boy Pickles got into an overtime game. I mean,
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I will take a picture of the pick. Just you
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Speaker 3 (31:52):
We're closing up shot today and Clay and Buck now,
we so much appreciate all of you, and I'm here
in studio with play so we're getting the chance to
to hang out today together and after the show, we're
actually gonna be doing some video stuff because we're going
to be really upping our video efforts going forward. One
of the big focuses. A lot of you have asked
for it, so we're gonna be doing that. But Clay
(32:12):
was told because we have to specify these things. Ever
since little incident at the White House where Clay showed
up in like a Tommy Bahama shirt and cargo shorts
and was like, I'm here to see the President. They
were like, excuse me, or he didn't have his passport
with him because he doesn't have real ID, one or
the other. You can choose which version of the story.
You can choose which version of the story you believe.
I like my version better that he showed up in
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Tommy Bahama. But Clay was told today not to wear
sandals or shorts, and he came through with that. I'm
not gonna lie, I thought.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But then he's so well.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
He wore a shirt that technically has a collar. There
is technically a collar, but the collar is sort of
it's like it's blended into the rest of the shirt, like,
what do you do to your polo shirts? Do you
beat them with a baseball bat? Is this something you do?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I think that I look I think that I looked.
I intentionally dressed well today.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean the neck is so big, like Fabio would
blush if you could see how well it's got not buttoned.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
But I I thought I looked good. I walked in
all confident this morning into the studio and producer Ali
was like, immediately, and we're not married, but this is
the equivalent of your wife saying, are you sure you're
gonna wear that?
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, is that what you're wearing? It reminds me of
my electric blue golf polo that I was so excited
to wear before my wife was like, you look like
you work at best Buy and that shirt was donated
to somebody who perhaps wants to work at best Buy.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I bought this shirt when we were in DC, and
I thought I looked really good at it. I'm like,
it's Carolina blue. It's like a good look and I walk.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's just the structure of it that I think is
more the it's it has. It's giving mumu a little bit.
I think that's why you know, it's a little a
little bit aggie, little big around some of the areas
that I.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Looked good in it. And then they bring in another
shirt that one of the producers gave me, and it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Actually that looks like something Tony Soprano would be wearing.
I'm just telling you the truth. That's very like a
by a being.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I don't know if that's gonna work for you either,
but we'll post some of these videos onlines. You guys
can see. I'm just wearing a hooded sweatshirt which they
have approved, it seems for video purposes because they weren't
expecting much from me either. So I feel like I,
you know, I managed to get off easy this time.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I wore pants and a polo and I thought I
looked fantastic when I walked out of the hotel this morning,
and I am being told that I look off.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
So it's just very casual, very casual. You know, you
look like somebody who as a flirty And I feel
like I can say this has just sort of ended
up living in one of the keys and not really
sure what he's gonna do today, tomorrow or next month,
but like he's there, you know, that's what that polo
is giving on. I'm just gonna start.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I'm just gonna start wearing tuxedos everywhere I go, and
then no one can ever complain about anything that I wear.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I actually there was a kid in my high school
who got in trouble for being in violation of dress
code a few times, and he did start showing up
in black tie with the ruffles just as like a
and he got in more trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
What I respect that, kids, I respect his intent.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I feel like you could pull that out, like if
I see you tonight on on Hannity or whichever Fox
show you're gonna do, and you're in full blown black tie.
You know, it used to be with gentlemen wore a
gentleman war, you know, as a more casual thing. Black
tie was the more casual it was. It was white
tails that was the more formal. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
But so anyway, there's a video version. I thought I
looked great. Evidently I do not. And we will see
how this all plays out. We're in New York City tomorrow, Buck,
and we'll talk about this probably a little bit more tomorrow,
And the timing on this ends up being I think
actually somewhat important. I am debating Stephen A. Smith, and
it's gonna be an event. It'll be streamed.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
A wive mine plays cutman, I may, I may be
rubbing his shoulders, but it's for the fight, everybody, It's
for the fight.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
We're gonna be going to that event tomorrow as soon
basically as we finish the radio show tomorrow in New
York City. It'll be streaming. But you know, free speech,
I think has never mattered more than it does right now,
and so you should be able to argue for anything
under the sun that stops short of hey, it's great
to kill people. And we will break down all that.
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We'll have a lot of fun. We're in New York
City together for the next several days, and in all seriousness,
we do appreciate all of you and how incredibly phenomenal
you have been as we dealt with I think, probably
as it fair to say, Buck, last week was the
toughest week that we have ever had as a show,
Yes for sure, and so I hope we have helped
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make your last week as much more much more bearable
because of us, and you certainly have made things much
better for us.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
We'll see you tomorrow,
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going
to dive into President Trump's announcement last week that he's
going to be bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which,
according to many measures of violent crime on a per
capita basis, may well be the most dangerous city in
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the entire country. But I want to start with this,
Senator Blackburn. First of all, I missed you in Knoxville,
where you and I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game,
which did not end well for the good guys in
this case the team wearing orange. But I know that
you were all over the place there and it's a
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sporting event. But I bet you had a similar experience
as I did, Senator Blackburn, which is the number of
people who came up to me that wanted to talk
about what happened to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event,
was unlike anything I've ever seen before. No One usually
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people want to come up and it's almost exclusively, Hey,
who's going to win the game? What do you think
is going to happen? Almost everybody that came up to
me at the sporting event wanted to talk about the
Charlie Kirk situation. I not asked you this, but I
bet you found it to be similar as well. And
I know you have a grandson that attends the same
school as my sons, and the impact on young men
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in particular of this assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But
their response has been I have seen very profoundly courageous.
I've been very encouraged. So that's a big prelude, But
I'm curious what you found in both those situations.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, indeed, I will tell you. I have been just
so honored about the conduct of my grandsons and their
classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie Kirk
and for the remembrance of nine eleven. And our grandson
even noticed that the flags had not been moved to
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half staff before before class started, so he walked out
to the flagpole and he lowered the flag to half staff,
and I think one of the teachers kind of got
in behind him a little bit about it, but he
said he was following the president's order for all flags
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to fly at half staff until six pm on Sunday,
and I said, you know, if that's what you get
in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing. Honoring someone
who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their lives in
our military, who fought after nine to eleven, in all
of those brave first responders, and doing what the President
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said was the order of the day, which was lowering
the flags. And you're right about being get University of Tennessee.
We could hardly get through the crowd, like you said,
without people saying, look, we stand with Charlie Kirk, we
stand with family values in Tennessee values and morals, and
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we stand with the President. And it was just such
an outpouring, I think for so many college students, whether
you were there in Circle Park or at one of
the fraternity houses or wherever play. It was astounding to
me that these kids were such a fan of Charlie Kirk.
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They listened to him, they followed him, they enjoyed his podcast,
and they wanted to They love the way he speaks
truth and have so gravitated to that. They loved President Trump,
and they just wanted to register their shock and they're
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just appointment with what had happened and their grief in
many respects. And we had a great sermon yesterday at
our church and the minister said something I think is
so important is that while we turn the other cheek,
and we know to turn the other cheek through evil,
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we cannot turn a blind eye. And that is incumbent
on us to remember that we have to push back
and fight against evil. And it is pure evil that
caused someone to try to silence Charlie Kirk. And as
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we have seen, his message now will be more powerful
than ever. The outpouring of support for Charlie and his
work for Erica and their children. It is not singular,
but it is global in nature, and indeed, I think
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this is truly a turning point.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also
getting some attention in the news cycle today is the
move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and
bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to
help tackle the out of control murder rate in the
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city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know
about this so far, what stage is the planning and
do you believe that this would be able to have
a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful.
And what we know is this Cash Battel gave me
a commitment when he came to meet with me before
his hearing for his FBI confirmation, and I'm on Senate
Judiciary Committee. I asked him in my office and then
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again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis
and getting an FBI surge in Memphis. Under President Trump's
first term, we had a program there called Legend. It
had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed
something back. So this summer for two months we had
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Operation Viper. There have been over five hundred arrest There
have already been over one hundred indictments. We know Memphis
has one hundred games. They have a per capital murder
rate of twenty five hundred per one hundred thousand. That
is why it's the most dangerous city in the country.
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We know that during the surge, Memphis had the best
August it has had in years. Whether it's murders or
rapes or sifts burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been
down and significantly down. Some the best in twenty years,
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some the best in over five years, so this has
made a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over.
They've worked closely with Memphis Police, with the Mayor of Memphis,
and they need to continue this multi phase approach and
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it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So
in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you
will have the National Guard. Now they can go in,
they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can
do traffic. There so many things they can do and
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this will allow Memphis Police, who do have arrest powers
to go in and apprehend others in these gangs and
get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD
needs to be focused is continuing to apprehend these gang
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leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are
doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these sets.
You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we
have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class
A railroads I forty that goes from the east coast
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to the west coast, and you also have fet X.
So when you've got all of this with the river,
the rail the highways, the air cargo, theft is a
big issue, and these gangs have created processes to go
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in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft.
So being able to have the police work with these companies,
whether it's rail or water, our highways and I get
a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important. Also,
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so the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They
are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis
to be safe, We want it to be prosperous. It
is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant it has
a promising future, and a big part of that is
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getting the crime under control.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Center Blackburn, I just Buck and I started off the
show talking about the dark soul of the left in
this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly
to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's a big question,
and it's one that I've been thinking about a lot.
(10:04):
How do we fix this? Because if your soul is
so dark that when you see a father murdered in
cold blood simply for sitting in front of an open
mic and saying tell me whatever you believe, too, the
soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. How
do we fix the rot in our culture? What can
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we do.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I this is something that talking with people through the
process of legislation that I have worked on with the
Kids Online Safety Act and trying to get that passed.
And you look at what these young people are picking
up on social media. They become isolated. They get onto
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these platforms like Reddit and discord, and they get into
these discussion groups and instead of it being a tool
that opens their mind and something for good, it narrows
their thought process and they become very angry. So I
think the church has a role to play in this.
(11:12):
I think parents have a role to play in this.
A governance for social media platforms have a role to
play in this. Looking at the mental health of kids,
that is something that has to be done. It's not
going to be fixed by one thing or another thing.
But I do believe that strong families can help. I
(11:35):
do believe is that getting kids off of these social
media platforms that will help. I do think that incur
And I will say this, I think the Governor of
Utah has done an exemplary job in this getting kids
off these devices. You know, right now, the studies that
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we have seen as we worked on keeping kids safe
and trying to hold social media to account. You know,
kids are spending teenagers are spending as much as eight
hours a day on the phone, yeah, eight hours. Middle
school kids are spending about five. And when they're doing this,
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they're being exposed to things that young minds are not
equipped to see this. I mean, this is why we
have ratings on movies in theaters. You can't take a
tile to an X rated movie. You can't sell them
alcohol or tobacco or firearms. You can't take them to
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a pornographic show or a strip club or sell them magazines.
But on the virtual space, they're exposed to it twenty
four to seven and they become desensitized. And you know,
I just I am and some of my friends. We
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are just praying, deeply, praying that skills will fall from eyes,
and that people will awaken and they will realize what
is happening to our children in our society. That they
will encourage our children to boldly stand for values and
for right and to stand against some of this evil
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presence to come off of these devices. And that means
that adults, parents, teachers, preachers, everyone's going to have to
do their part.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Senator Blackbird always appreciates you. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You got it. Take care by now.
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Speaker 3 (14:57):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck, and
we're going a lot of talkbackts just about this one
point that a caller made about TMZ. We said, we
only want to focus on those who we are sure
were making the horrific decision to celebrate what happened to
our friend Charlie Kirk. A lot of you are telling
me you've done the the sleuthing on this one.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Though.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
We're getting a lot of talkbacks about this. Remember I
didn't say one of the other I'm just saying that
TMZ claims, No, that's not what happened. I have not
dug into the tape. A bunch of you were saying
you have dug into the tape meeting you put simultaneous
to the car chase and TMZ up here, we've got
Chris from Tampa who listens on WFLA play it.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Hey, guys, that TMZ thing is real. They people have
broke down on that video and got the actual car chase.
The announcers on the car chase like whatever time it
was one or something like that matches the clock that's
next behind Harvey when he's doing the interview. When the
people start cheering, as the announcers on the car chase
(15:57):
said that Trump just said that Charlie Kurt bad, that's
when they started cheering.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I don't I don't have to go back and watch
this and link this up.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I haven't. I've only seen the Hey, that's not what
was going on. If it was going on, then.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We obviously condemn it. If it was what's going on.
But I've just I think it's only fair to note
that they claimed quickly that that wasn't what was going on.
So now we're relying on but a lot of people
are calling and saying that, you know, they've done the analysis,
so uh, they say, no, you know, we're reporting, we're not.
I'm not claiming one way or the other. We're reporting
that this is what they said, and others are saying, no,
that's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
All I can say is this, I ran a media company.
If that had happened when I ran a media company,
I would be deeply concerned about the culture that I
had created, and I would fire everyone. This is one
of the good things about being the boss. You get
to make decisions about the culture that you're going to
allow to exist. A culture that celebrates death, legitimately celebrates
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death is not a culture that I want to be
affiliated with, and so I would I would fire, and
I don't think that's a very difficult decision to make.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And if I were Harvey Levin and that were true,
I wouldn't cover for employees. I would fire them, and
I would do so publicly, because you are the culture
that you create inside of any business, inside of any organization,
and if you've got cheering going on there, I can't
trust the opinion of anybody inside of TMC.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yes, I totally agree with all of that. Let's take
Gretchen and Georgia. Hello, yeah, Gretcha. We got about twenty seconds,
but we want to get you in.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Go ahead, that there's always going to be evil. There's
always going to be evil, and there's always going to
be good, and you can't get rid of evil. Unfortunately. However,
I believe one of the ways to fight it with
these people that are saying these bad things about Charlie,
I think we need to process all the wonderful things
that Charlie has done since the age of eighteen, and
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we need to keep talking to all those people that
he says and brought to Christianity, and we need to
keep talking about Christianity.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
That's how we fight evil.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Totally agree. Thank you so much for the call. Excellent. Look,
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I want
to give you kind of an indication of what some
faculty members are saying. This is who the University of
Tennessee just fired. She went on social media. This professor
did Tamar Sharinian, and she said his kids are better
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off living in a world without a disgusting psychopath like him,
and his wife is a sick blank for marrying him,
so I don't care about her feelings.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
The world is.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Better off without him, And even those who were claiming
to be sad for his wife and kids, like his
kids are better off living in a world without a
disgusting psychopath like him, and his wife, well, she's a
sick blank for marrying him, so I don't care about
her feelings. That seems pretty If you're a taxpayer, funded
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employee of the University of Tennessee. I don't think you
should be employed in posting those things on public after
a political assassination. There are lots of things she can
do for a living, work being funded by partly my
tax dollars. That seems like a really easy call to me.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, I think anybody who's like, hey, you know what,
this is unacceptable. You're a public employee and you have
decided to post that. I don't think you should be
teaching kids at the University of Tennessee. I don't think
that's a difficult standard.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I also wanted to play this. Dan Lanning is the
coach of the University of Oregon. I'm not going to
say that this is the greatest, most perfect statement that's
ever been made, but Charlie Kirk was a big University
of Oregon fan, and Dan Lanning wanted to acknowledge him
after the game that they played against Northwestern. So this
(20:53):
is what Dan Lanning said. He's the coach of the
University of Oregon. Oregon pretty blue state. But Dan Lanning
felt that he wanted to speak out about this. It
would have been easy for him to say nothing at all.
I thought this was very well said. Not saying it's perfect,
but I did want to play this because Charlie Kirk
would have been very impressed that this happened. He was
(21:16):
a huge University of a Oregon fan. He never met
Dan Lanning, but this is what Dan Lanning had to say. Listen,
have you recently found.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Out, like Charlie Kirk was an Oregon fan?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Right?
Speaker 7 (21:26):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I hurt for his wife, Erica and their kids like
that sort of evil should never exist in our country,
and that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Evil.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I wish the world could learn a little bit of
something from our locker room, because we got.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
A bunch of people with differences in what you got in.
There is a bunch of people love there.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And there's some people that'll be disappointed about how much
I said about this, right, And there'll be some people
that are disappointed that I didn't say enough.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Right now, I really don't care, right.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
What I do care about is if you disagree with me,
if you hate me, if you don't like me, just
know this, I love you.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I absolutely love you, right, and life matters.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
And that's no way that Charlie should have experience that
his family should experience.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
That there's no way that evil should exist in this world.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, I reached out to Dan to let him know
that Charlie was a University of Oregon fan and he
wanted to say something after the game. Now, I've been
to a lot of postgame press conferences. A lot of
coaches avoid saying anything because, especially a guy in a
blue state. I'm sure if you go online and you
look that Dan Lanning is getting ripped, I would encourage
(22:31):
all of you say thank you. Sometimes people ask, hey,
how do we win in a world of culture? You
just heard Dan Lanning there. He's getting ripped by a
lot of people who are saying, how dare he say
something positive about Charlie Kirk and his family? Use your
social media for good? Just a suggestion if you hear
(22:51):
and see somebody standing up for just speaking out and
taking slings and arrows. One thing for Be and Buck,
we appreciate and love that you guys have our back
and it means a time, trust me. But in the
larger culture, there are people that the left is going
to try to slap down that are influential, that aren't
talking to you every day for three hours go give
(23:12):
them support, stand up for them.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Clay and I are shock troops, like we're used to.
All the the slings and arrows are meant for us.
We take them and that's the deal. A lot of
other people, though, in positions where they have a platform,
but this is not their job, that support really does
matter because they're not used to it. Clay, I come
across people sometimes who have a public facing job, not
what we do right, not media, and they'll say, you know,
(23:37):
how is it? You know, do you get upset or
does it bother you when people say these things?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You say?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And I've had to tell them honestly, you get numb
to the psychos. You just love the good people and
that's how you go for it every day. You know
who the good people are, You know who the lunatics are,
and the lunatics their words, you know, sticks and stones.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I think that's true, and your boy is, and probably
hopefully future kids will grow up in a world and
I think, you know, you just got to talk to
the kids. I mean, I think it's somewhat helpful for
my boys that they are able to see the difference
between what people say about me and what day to
day existence with Dad is and I think that in
(24:18):
all facets of life, it's important to remember that a
lot of what you see online is not true, and
teaching kids that is important. But for people who are
not necessarily in the fight every day, like Buck and
I are, who are used to taking the slings and arrows,
I do think it's been very easy for Dan Lanning
to say nothing at all. It would have been incredibly easy.
(24:39):
Most coaches are going to choose not to say anything
at all. He when he found out that Charlie Kirk
was a big Oregon fan, he wanted to make sure
that he acknowledged him, that he spoke out even though
he's in a blue state, even though he's in a
prominent position. And I do think that as a culture,
we can embrace people who are willing to do what
(25:00):
it's right, even though there may be a cost in
them and even though arguably their job is not in
that arena. I thought that what Dan Lanning said was
really impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I hadn't heard of this coach, not surprising to anybody
until you brought this up and told me about this Clay.
And you can just tell this is a man who
wants to sleep well at night and doesn't want to think.
You know what, I could have spoken out and been
a part of the solution, or I could have been
quiet and maybe felt a little bit like I was
being a wimp. Yeah, and he decided that he wanted
to sleep knowing that he took a stand for what's right.
(25:31):
And I think there are a lot of people out
there who have that that impulse right now, and you know,
they should all be they should all be commended, and
we should hopefully see a lot more of that. Jinny
in South Carolina, Ginny, you wanted a wayh in let's talk.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
Hey, I just want to let you know that I
heard where clay Son is fifteen today and he started
the chapter. Now she's wanna let to night that My
daughter is also has a birthday today, she's seventeen, and
she also started the initiative at her high school to
start a Turning Point USA chapter.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
So, happy birthday to your daughter. She's seventeen. My son's
turning fifteen. He did not start. He went to the
I just want to be clear. He went to all
of the events on campus. And there are tons of
young men at his school who were dressing up in
supportive and to Jenny, to your point, this is actually awesome.
There is an overflow reportedly of kids at different high
(26:30):
schools all over the country, of kids at different colleges
all over the country who want to start their own
Turning Point organizations in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
So we get a lot of questions about young people,
and your daughter's doing exactly what she should be doing.
Happy birthday to her, Jenny, Thank you for calling in.
This is what your kids can do. If you've got
(26:51):
young boys and they were particularly troubled by what they saw,
and I know a lot of you do young girls
and they were particularly troubled by what they saw, have
him start turning point organizations, Have them speak out and
be courageous and brave on Charlie's behalf. It's turning one
of the most awful stories that any of us have
(27:12):
ever seen in our lives, a political assassination like this,
into The best positive result that could be is that
we have more people speaking out and creating opportunities for
others all over the country.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Chris in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, you're up.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Chris, Hi there?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, I would like I just heard the Dan Lanning
interview that you guys played. You know, that's what Charlie was.
Charlie was somebody that was in the daylight, exampling his
faith that he loved everybody that was around him, even
the ones as much that came against him as the
ones that came for him. And that is and that
(27:54):
is key to faith. That is key to what Jesus
Christ teaches us to love everybody. It isn't that you
love this one or that one, because the people across
the Islea want to play games with loving with terms
terms and love are incompatible.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Look, I think that what you are and a lot
of people are recognizing is Charlie's impact was seismic at
finding kids where they are. And this is what we're
trying to do with this show. This is why I've
talked about YouTube, this is why I've talked about TikTok.
This is why heck there is a video version of
the show, is because so many people out there consume
(28:34):
media in different ways now than they did traditionally. Russia
is an a legend, absolute incredible voice for freedom Radio
in nineteen ninety five was a way that was the
best way to reach the audience twenty twenty five, we
got to be everywhere. The number of media that existed
(28:56):
in nineteen ninety five compared to now, you had basically
tell television, cable, and you had radio. Most young people
don't listen to traditional radio. Most young people don't even
watch traditional television anymore. And the reason why there's a
video version of this show is we're trying to go
where the audience is. We want to find them on YouTube,
(29:18):
we want to find them on TikTok, we want to
find them on Instagram, wherever they are Twitter, certainly where
Buck and I are very active. You got to go
where the audience is. And I think Charlie saw it.
And when you go where the audience is a lot
of people Buck are very very responsive to these arguments,
and they're not seeing them any elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
The heck.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
This is why to me, I still am not going
to give up sports, because a lot of sanity is
in the world of sports. You just heard what Dan
Lanning said. A lot of young men in particular, are
impacted a lot of young women by the coaches around them.
And I love sports and I always will and I'm
going to fight for sports to represent the meritocracy and
(29:58):
the best of America. And that's what the NFL on
the field tries to do. It's a meritocracy. College football
on the field, it's a meritocracy. The Major League Baseball,
whatever sport is out there, it's the best man or
the best woman, not the best woman pretending to be
a man. And if you love sports, you can play
along with us at price picks. Use code Clay right now.
(30:19):
When you put in a five dollars pick, you get
fifty dollars. Unfortunately, Derrick Henry didn't score for us yesterday.
We would have had a five to one payout. He
let us down.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Buck, How did Sequan do? Saquan had a good game,
just making sure because we know my mantra always bet
on Sequan.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
And your boy Pickles got into an overtime game. I mean,
your guys had big games out there. You can go.
I'll give you a pick on Thursday. In fact, I'm
traveling on Thursday. I believe, oh boy, Buck may have
to give you the pick.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
All right, you have to give them a handwritten but
val you know, do your back. I will write in English.
We'll see how this goes.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I will take a picture of the pick. Just you
never know how this is gonna go. Buck will be
giving out the pick on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It adds an element of danger, adds an element of
mystery of the situation.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
I will clip it. I have no idea how it's
gonna go. But you can play along with us. If
you go to prizepicks dot com use code Clay. You
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Speaker 5 (31:18):
Look.
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You can play in California, you can play in Texas, Georgia,
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you a pick on Thursday. I can't guarantee that Buck
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Speaker 7 (31:43):
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Speaker 3 (31:52):
We're closing up shot today and Clay and Buck now,
we so much appreciate all of you, and I'm here
in studio with play so we're getting the chance to
to hang out today together and after the show, we're
actually gonna be doing some video stuff because we're going
to be really upping our video efforts going forward. One
of the big focuses. A lot of you have asked
for it, so we're gonna be doing that. But Clay
(32:12):
was told because we have to specify these things. Ever
since little incident at the White House where Clay showed
up in like a Tommy Bahama shirt and cargo shorts
and was like, I'm here to see the President. They
were like, excuse me, or he didn't have his passport
with him because he doesn't have real ID, one or
the other. You can choose which version of the story.
You can choose which version of the story you believe.
I like my version better that he showed up in
(32:35):
Tommy Bahama. But Clay was told today not to wear
sandals or shorts, and he came through with that. I'm
not gonna lie, I thought.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But then he's so well.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
He wore a shirt that technically has a collar. There
is technically a collar, but the collar is sort of
it's like it's blended into the rest of the shirt, like,
what do you do to your polo shirts? Do you
beat them with a baseball bat? Is this something you do?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I think that I look I think that I looked.
I intentionally dressed well today.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean the neck is so big, like Fabio would
blush if you could see how well it's got not buttoned.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
But I I thought I looked good. I walked in
all confident this morning into the studio and producer Ali
was like, immediately, and we're not married, but this is
the equivalent of your wife saying, are you sure you're
gonna wear that?
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
No, is that what you're wearing? It reminds me of
my electric blue golf polo that I was so excited
to wear before my wife was like, you look like
you work at best Buy and that shirt was donated
to somebody who perhaps wants to work at best Buy.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I bought this shirt when we were in DC, and
I thought I looked really good at it. I'm like,
it's Carolina blue. It's like a good look and I walk.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's just the structure of it that I think is
more the it's it has. It's giving mumu a little bit.
I think that's why you know, it's a little a
little bit aggie, little big around some of the areas
that I.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Looked good in it. And then they bring in another
shirt that one of the producers gave me, and it.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Actually that looks like something Tony Soprano would be wearing.
I'm just telling you the truth. That's very like a
by a being.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I don't know if that's gonna work for you either,
but we'll post some of these videos onlines. You guys
can see. I'm just wearing a hooded sweatshirt which they
have approved, it seems for video purposes because they weren't
expecting much from me either. So I feel like I,
you know, I managed to get off easy this time.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I wore pants and a polo and I thought I
looked fantastic when I walked out of the hotel this morning,
and I am being told that I look off.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
So it's just very casual, very casual. You know, you
look like somebody who as a flirty And I feel
like I can say this has just sort of ended
up living in one of the keys and not really
sure what he's gonna do today, tomorrow or next month,
but like he's there, you know, that's what that polo
is giving on. I'm just gonna start.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I'm just gonna start wearing tuxedos everywhere I go, and
then no one can ever complain about anything that I wear.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I actually there was a kid in my high school
who got in trouble for being in violation of dress
code a few times, and he did start showing up
in black tie with the ruffles just as like a
and he got in more trouble.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
What I respect that, kids, I respect his intent.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I feel like you could pull that out, like if
I see you tonight on on Hannity or whichever Fox
show you're gonna do, and you're in full blown black tie.
You know, it used to be with gentlemen wore a
gentleman war, you know, as a more casual thing. Black
tie was the more casual it was. It was white
tails that was the more formal. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
But so anyway, there's a video version. I thought I
looked great. Evidently I do not. And we will see
how this all plays out. We're in New York City tomorrow, Buck,
and we'll talk about this probably a little bit more tomorrow,
And the timing on this ends up being I think
actually somewhat important. I am debating Stephen A. Smith, and
it's gonna be an event. It'll be streamed.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
A wive mine plays cutman, I may, I may be
rubbing his shoulders, but it's for the fight, everybody, It's
for the fight.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
We're gonna be going to that event tomorrow as soon
basically as we finish the radio show tomorrow in New
York City. It'll be streaming. But you know, free speech,
I think has never mattered more than it does right now,
and so you should be able to argue for anything
under the sun that stops short of hey, it's great
to kill people. And we will break down all that.
(36:21):
We'll have a lot of fun. We're in New York
City together for the next several days, and in all seriousness,
we do appreciate all of you and how incredibly phenomenal
you have been as we dealt with I think, probably
as it fair to say, Buck, last week was the
toughest week that we have ever had as a show,
Yes for sure, and so I hope we have helped
(36:42):
make your last week as much more much more bearable
because of us, and you certainly have made things much
better for us.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
We'll see you tomorrow,
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