September 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and urgent breakdown of breaking news, political analysis, and media accountability. The hour opens with a disturbing report of a sniper attack at a Dallas ICE facility, which hosts Clay and Buck’s deep dive into the rise of left-wing political violence and domestic terrorism. The shooter reportedly engraved anti-ICE messages on bullets, echoing previous politically motivated assassinations, including the killing of Charlie Kirk and United Healthcare’s CEO. Buck Sexton, drawing on his counterterrorism background, categorizes the incident as ideologically driven terrorism, criticizing mainstream media outlets like CNN for downplaying motives when violence originates from the political left.
The hosts explore the broader implications of anti-law enforcement rhetoric, citing statements from California Governor Gavin Newsom and Texas Senator Ted Cruz. Cruz calls for an end to inflammatory language targeting ICE and CBP agents, warning of real-world consequences. The discussion also highlights how political figures and media narratives may be fueling radicalization by portraying conservatives and law enforcement as fascists.
Clay and Buck then pivot to the topic of Big Tech censorship, previewing an upcoming interview with Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan. They discuss Google’s admission that YouTube suppressed conservative voices, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic. Clay shares personal experiences of being deplatformed for advocating school reopenings and sports resumption, while Buck emphasizes the First Amendment violations tied to government-influenced censorship on platforms like YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok. The hosts argue for financial accountability and propose the creation of a civil liberties organization to support independent creators silenced by tech giants.
The hour also touches on the return of Jimmy Kimmel to late-night television, with Buck dismissing it as a corporate distraction rather than a true free speech victory. The hosts contrast Kimmel’s situation with the systemic suppression of conservative media voices.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome man that we are here Wednesday edition of the program.
A lot of stories to discuss with all of you.
Congressman Jim Jordan going to be with us at one
point thirty to talk about Google admitting that YouTube canceled.
Conservatives Sorry, He's gonna be with us at one here
in about an hour, and then in the third hour
(00:21):
we're going to be joined by Florida's Senator Rick Scott
to talk about the latest on the budget battle on
Capitol Hill. Shutdown or no shutdown. Buck and I have
told you for years that this is probably the story
that always ends with the government being funded and yet
turns into a multi day, multi week drama filled. Oh
(00:44):
my goodness, what's going to happen? Spoiler alert. They're all
going to spend a lot more of your money. This
is how it's going to win. But people will get
fired up and we will discuss that. But unfortunately, breaking
news in the last hour and a half or so,
a shooting has taken place at a Dallas ice facility.
(01:07):
A sniper on a roof who has engraved anti ice
messages on his bullets. Not dissimilar to what happened with
Luigi Mangioni left wing shooter who assassinated the United Healthcare CEO,
not dissimilar to the person who killed Charlie Kirk in
(01:28):
an act of cold blooded political assassination. This has become
quite the left wing trend. If you want to know
what the motivation is, all you have to do is
actually check the bullets and let's go to the latest
news announcements on that, which begins.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I believe with cut one.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Maybe most of all, I want to think to people.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Who don't support well, that's nice. We'll get to Jimmy
Kimmel in a little bit. But the top of the
list here for the shooting that just took place, this
is going to be if I need to pull up
the exact number, right off the top of the of
the list. Cut to FBI Special Agent in Charge Joe
(02:16):
Rothrock is telling us just what happened in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is
investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is, unfortunately,
just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence
to include here in North Texas. We're back on July fourth,
we saw a coordinate attack carried out against an immigration
detention center in Albado, Texas. What I can also share
(02:40):
with you is it early evidence that we've seen from
rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages
that are anti.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Ice in nature.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Again, this is just the most recent example of this
type of attack.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, so Buck, this is direct result of the hetic
we've been hearing for some time.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
This is left wing terrorism. This is anti Republican, anti Trump,
anti rule of law terrorism. I don't know why there's
a hesitation to say this, Maybe because I think I
would still qualify as a terrorism expert. I feel like
I can just say this. I used to argue with
with people about this when it was in the old
(03:22):
Jihadis days. We had all this jihatas terrorism happening, and
as we know, there'd be very clear, very clear motivation,
and they would always say, we'll never know the real motives.
Wean now targeted violence. Yeah, just it's terrorism. If you
want to say suspected terrorism, fine, you know, in the
in the opening hours after incident like this, but this
(03:43):
was targeting a government facility with anti government messages written
on the bullets, and as we know, this was also
the case with the Charlie kirk assassin. And there's a
very clear pattern that is emerging here everybody. First of all,
these terrorists, the Charlie kirkissas was a terrorist. This individual
who took his life, we don't know much more about
(04:04):
him than that also engaged in an act of terrorism. Remember, Clay,
you're an insurrectionist terrorist according to Democrats if you non
violently entered the Capitol building on video for sixty seconds
with police officers waving you in and with people walking
and respecting the velvet ropes and statuary hall. I'm not
(04:26):
saying everybody was in that category. There are some people
that scuffled with cops, but there were a lot of
people who just walked into the building and were treated
like terrorists. We now have people who are murdering people
at government facilities because they are angry with government policy.
This is textbook definition political violence terrorism. And they feel
the need, these terrorists now to write their beliefs on
(04:50):
the bullets because I think they want everyone to know.
I think they are worried, and I mean this, I
know this sounds crazy. I think they are worried that
CNN is going to say we may never know the motive.
We may never know the motive of this guy. This
isn't about left or right. This isn't this guy is
like no ices fascism. Here's why I'm doing this. I'm
(05:13):
a maniac because I listen to what the New York
Times and cnnsay every day that. Let me ask you,
I think he wants to make it explicit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You are more knowledgeable and weaponry than me.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
This whole engraving messages on bullets thing, it obviously is
becoming a trend. I think to your point, the reason
is becoming a trend is because these left wingers have
heard left wing media say every time a left winger
does something.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We may never know the reason that he did this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Right, anytime somebody has a connection to the right or Trump,
instantaneously it's well, this is what happens in Trump's America.
Anytime somebody engages in left wing political violence terrorism, as
you just said, the media response to the media is, well,
you know, there's a lot of conflicting stories here. We
may never know the motives. So they're saying, here is motive,
but how weird is it to engrave bullets? Is this
(06:03):
easy to do? Is this common? What have you seen
in your like sort of gun background.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's yeah, I mean it's not It's not hard to
do at all. It's odd.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But is this a popular trend? I mean, like I
just I have.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, if you're asking, I have fired tens of
thousands of rounds in my life. I have never seen
or done this bullet engraving in my life. Now, this
is not a This is not a thing that people
generally do for fun. I mean, think about it. It makes
if you're going to range, it makes no sense. Why
would you do this?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That was my general idea. But you're more more knowledgeable
and weaponry than me. But it has become a left
wing trend with luigim ANDNGIONI with now this shooter of Charlie.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Kirkin now and I think we've stumbled on for everybody
here and this will now reverberate through the broader ecosystem,
and I hope that it does. I hope people on
the right understand this. They are writing their motives on
the bullets because the terrorists want everyone to know, and
they're sick of CNN, for political reasons, pretending that we
may never know what the motive is. I think that's right.
(07:03):
This is absolutely what is going on here. You know,
this is the This is like somebody leaving a suicide
note because they want to, you know, have their say
or they want to tell people why. In this case,
this guy committed it was a murder suicide and it
just couldn't be more clear to me that that's what's
going on here. And I'm sorry, but I also have
to point out that this person who did this, and
(07:24):
there are people who are dead. I mean, this is
there are two people who have been murdered by this maniac.
Their families are getting the worst news imaginable today. Those
families are shattered. They have to deal with this. You know,
we don't know much of the details of either the
victims or the shooter yet. But Clay, you had Gavin Newsom,
who is currently I think the de facto leader of
(07:45):
the Democrat Party. I mean, people could argue that, but
I think that's a fair assessment, talking about how it's
fascism for members of ICE to have their identities protected
while they're doing their completely lawful jobs, because he wants
them to be able to be docs by Antifa, and
he wants their families to get death threats, so he
is sending a signal to everybody. The governor of California
(08:07):
are largest state. The people who are doing the work
of immigrations and customs enforcement are fair game for all
kinds of things, and some people take it to this extreme.
It's certainly, by the way, fair game to be having
this like obstruction and gathering at these facilities and shouting
epithets at them. These are law enforcement officers. Gavin Newsom
(08:28):
should be a shamed He's incapable of shame, but this
is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Cashptel, by the way, has posted photos of the ammunition
ammunition rounds already on social media showing that I mean legitimately.
Now it looks like it's written in a pen, maybe
not an engraver, but anti ICE is written on the
on the rounds and.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Again something yeah, go ahead, go ahead. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Ted because Ted Cruz is also our friend from senator
from Texas saying this, this is cut one.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
This must stop.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
To every politician who is using rhetoric demonizing ICE and
demonizing CBP, stop to every politician demanding that ICE agents
be doxed and calling for people to go after their families,
stop this has very real consequences. Look, in America, we disagree.
That's fine, that's the democratic process. But your political opponents
(09:32):
are not Nazis. We need to learn to work together
without demonizing each other, without attacking each other. And I
want to say thank you. I want to say thank
you to the brave men and women at law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Okay, I mean everything he says, Everything Senator Cruz says
is correct, It needs to be said. It will have
no impact. They're not going to stop. I'm not saying
he shouldn't say, it needs to be said, but they're
not going to stop. And that's what we need to
recognize here because this is is the resistance. Now, this
is the center of Democrat opposition to Trump, to Maga,
to all of it, and Clay to the point I
(10:08):
was making, And I know you're on board for this,
because I think we just assessed this very straight in
a very straightforward way. The terrorists, and they are terrorists,
are writing their motives on their bullets so that CNN
can have a spin room thing of like, well, we
may never know. And obviously they need to do things
like that because look at Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel goes
on the air and says that it was one of
(10:30):
the Maga gang who killed Charlie kirk Er. It was
one of their people or whatever it is that he said.
So it's not strange at all that these terrorists are
making it. Even when they make it explicit, there are
people who are going to be saying, oh, this isn't
for the purpose that you are engaged in this terrorism.
So I think they want to make it completely inescapably obvious.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think that's one hundred percent true. I also think.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
At some point in time, and we've been talking about
this on this show for a long time. We even
mentioned yesterday on The Atlantic, there's going to have to
be a real discussion, and I think it's going to
have to come from the left of the fact that
there are a lot of people that have been told
for a decade that we're all Nazis. Just almost everybody
(11:19):
listening to this program right now, that we're Nazi stormtroopers,
and that our lives are as a result, not worthy
of protection and in fact are worthy of being taken.
And all of these people believe this is important. I
think too, they think they're heroes, like they think they
are the good guys that are standing up to evil
(11:41):
because their politicians have convinced them of it.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You've brought up that it's kind of intentionally surreal or
absurd Baby Hitler analogy right, which people talk about and
especially online. We don't even have to make it absurd.
We could bring it into the present day if it
were in fact true. And to be very clear, it
is not right. We all know that, yes, if it
were in fact true that immigrations and customs enforcement were
(12:07):
making people quote disappear off the streets, never to be
seen again again, explicitly a lie. This is not true.
But if that were true, would it be morally justified
to take up arms against them? Well, before we even
have to pose an answer to the hypothetical, we see
what maniacs are doing. We see that people believe they
(12:30):
have a right to obstruct these law enforcement officers physically,
to threaten their families, and in this case, to open
fire on a government facility. How many ice facilities were
under fire during all four years of Biden? Did it
ever happen?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't you know.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Within a rifle like this, I'm not aware of it.
And people are starting to see I think Morclay as
well that and this is why I appreciate what Ted
Cruz is saying. But this is now the whole game
for the left of the Democrats is hysteria. They can't
climb down from this because to climb down from saying
that ice are fascists is to admit that they were lying,
(13:06):
and to admit that they are lying is to further
limit their political power. And you know, this just becomes
zero sum for them. So we're in a very dangerous
moment here as a country, and they're just making it
worse every single day.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Amen, we'll take some of your reactions, and certainly as
we continue the show, Jim Jordan going to join us
top of the next hour. Senator Rick Scott, I do
think Jim Jordan's discussion we're going to have is important
because what we can only do to combat this is
call it out. And in order to call it out,
you have to have free and fair access to many
(13:42):
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Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We started
off talking about the fatal shooting at that ice facility
in Dallas, so to continue to monitor that closely, and
we'll talk more about the the rhetoric from Democrats that
I think you cannot separate from these actions. And I'll
just note this, anytime anything bad happened that they could
even begin to pretend had some association with MAGA or Trump. Ever,
(15:10):
it was all hands on deck effort from the media.
And now, of course we could have videotape confessions of
the terrorists, the left wing terrorists, saying this is why
I did it, this is who inspired me, this is
why I targeted, and your CNN they're like, we just
we may never know the motive. I mean, this is
the game that they play. They have no ethics, they
have no honesty. So I think that's important to keep
(15:33):
in mind. We also have the return of Jimmy Kimmel
to the air, which we should we should discuss. He
thanked some people on the right for defending him. Not me,
but some people got thanked. And he is back on
(15:53):
the air, and I will play some some of the
clips from him, Clay, but I have to say, I
think think it's just not even nearly good enough for me,
And I disagree with the notion that this was a
big First Amendment win, because this was just an ABC
corporate decision through and through. And he's already back on
(16:15):
the air, so I don't know what we're all supposed
to be so upset about. The guy's at jerk. He's
still saying some jerk things, just in a softer voice.
And now we're supposed to what think that Jimmy Kimmel
is going to be nice to people on the right,
or he's going to be fair to them or try
to make jokes. I think this whole thing was, unfortunately
just to kind of a distraction.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think that's likely to be uh.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I think that's likely to be the case, and I
think most people are going to go back to mostly
ignoring late night television hosts. I do think that there
is a big story that still needs to be had
and a big fight that needs to be had, And
I actually think what came out of Google and that
we're going to talk about with Jim Jordan at the
(17:00):
top of the next hour is far more significant. Because
whatever you think of any comedian, their individual power to
impact things as small, the power of YouTube, the power
of Google to artificially influence the direction of conversation that
we have, and frankly, to basically make it almost impossible
for many media organizations to exist. I mean, I saw
(17:22):
this firsthand that's the real story to me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, will there I mean m clay, will there be
any We'll talk to Jim Jordan about this. Will there
be any consequences? I think the answers certainly know. Will
they do it again? I think the answer certainly is
the concern. So what have we them admitting it now?
This is why, whether it's delayed motive in the media
reporting or delayed acceptance of what the social media companies
(17:47):
were happening, delay just avoids accountability, and I think unfortunately,
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show, Well are
going to dive in? Buck asked the question that I
think is actually probably paramount. We're gonna talk about this
with Jim Jordan. They shut down. I think we have
audio of this, and I want to play it. I
want to make sure that I get the audio right.
(19:14):
You guys listen to this show every day. We love
you and we thank you, and we want to be
everywhere that basically audiences are. So we're up on YouTube
right now. We hope after the first of the year,
we're going to have full video of the show available forever.
Maybe YouTube is going to be better to conservative. Maybe
I'm not, you know, but we're hoping and we want
(19:35):
to reach as many people on YouTube because that's where
a lot of the young, up and coming conservatives and
just people who want to see things right. So it's
like I said, Clay, we use all the tools at
our disposal.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That's exactly right. This is uh.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I had the team go back and look because we
interviewed sitting Senator of the United States ran Paul about COVID,
and this was such so let me take a step back.
I ran out Kickbuck. When I ran out kick we
made a lot of money off YouTube. We were firing
(20:10):
on all cylinders. Audience was really rolling. We were doing
very very well on YouTube, and then COVID hits and COVID.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Just throw this out there. You're doing that was sports sports,
like you were a sports guy then, so the idea
that you would get in trouble on YouTube for sports
talk is particularly out there. Like I was in the
center of the beast being like defeat the communists, so
of course YouTube hated me.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, so the YouTube stuff started for us when I
had the goal to say, hey, I think we can
play sports safely and we should open schools back up,
because that was the initial entry point for me, Buck
was I was just a guy doing a sports talk
show with no sports going on, who was looking around
and saying, hey, you guys realized that NFL football is
(21:00):
way more dangerous than the COVID virus is, right, Like,
you're if you told me right now play would you
rather get COVID or try to take ten hits in
an NFL football game? I might die from the NFL hits.
I've had COVID probably seven hundred and forty eight times
at this point, and I'm fine. And people were like, oh,
you can't say that. This is an unacceptable opinion to have,
(21:24):
and so we started to get severely restricted. And then
we had President Trump on the show and he said
college football can be played safely, and I want all
the schools to open up, and suddenly you couldn't find
us anymore, like we just overnight. We basically vanished, and
eventually it got to the point where YouTube suspended the
(21:45):
OutKick Show. But on this program, we talked with a
sitting United States Center and he's running for reelection. He
is a doctor, Ran Paul. We love him from Kentucky.
And this is the censorship of the show. I believe
this is Is this the throwback machine? Producer Ali Cut four,
(22:08):
cut five is the throwback? This is us talking with
Ran Paul. This is January fifteenth, twenty twenty two, on
this show. YouTube would not allow this that we're about
to play to be posted. Listen, we're joined by Senator
Ran Paul of Kentucky. Senator, I appreciate you joining us.
Were you surprised to hear that YouTube would not allow
(22:30):
us to post our interview with you, because that, to
me is next level crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You're a sitting senator, you're a doctor.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You came on our show, biggest radio show in the country,
to share your opinions as an elected official, and YouTube
won't allow us to distribute that conversation.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Well, YouTube has a history of censorship and people should
quit using them. People should go as far as they can.
They should support competitors like rumble dot com. They should
go to my website Liberty dot com. They should listen
to your radio. But we need to quit using these people.
We need to quit giving them content and if they're right,
if conservatives left YouTube completely, it'll dwindle. Same with Twitter.
(23:09):
These people, if they're going to censor us, we should
leave them. I looked back at the interview and the
only thing I can see is that one of the
things we discussed was whether or not adolescent males have
an increased risk of myer carditis. Without question, it's.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
True, Senator Paul, it's buck. Thanks as always for being
with us. I do think that the YouTube policy is
still officially and we have this centrist by our digital
team that you cannot question the effectiveness of masks, that
that is not allowed by YouTube stated guidelines, and that
they will shut things down as a result of this.
(23:43):
How are we supposed to make sense of it when
we have not only you and others who are medical
doctors and policy experts who are weighing in on this one,
but even some who had been big mask proponents in
the past, whether we're talking about Scott Gottlieb or Lena
when both doctors they've been willing to say masks don't work.
(24:04):
So it feels like we're in a very Orwellian world
where some people can say that masks don't work or
don't work well, but others like you can't.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
This is the full hardy nature of sort of censorship.
Is YouTube now going to censor the CDC? I mean,
the CDC has admitted that the cloth mass are ineffective.
I believe that's from the CDC website. Now, so is
YouTube going to edit the CDC as well?
Speaker 8 (24:29):
No?
Speaker 7 (24:30):
I mean, realize who these bumbling idiots are that are
doing the censorship. Sometimes there are grad students from France
or something. I mean, it's people who have no concept
of what the real scientific matter is at hand. And
it's actually fairly simple that the randomized controlled studies on
cloth masks show they don't work.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Here's my take, Buck and all that was correct, you
couldn't see it on YouTube. And we'll talk about this
with Jim Jordan here at the top of the next hour.
I think you Tube should have to pay out hundreds
of millions of dollars, maybe even billions of dollars to
Conservative And I don't even like the term conservative because
(25:11):
that's not that's just common sense, Like, hey, it shouldn't
have been a political issue of whether you could wear
a mask into a restaurant and then you could take
it off when you set down an eight, like, yes,
it became political, but it's nonsense that we even have to.
But there should be consequences that are financial in nature,
because to your point, otherwise there's nothing to disincentivize them
(25:34):
from ever doing this.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, this is why I'm so frustrated with this. And
I'll pose this to Jim Jordan. You know we Jim
is a great congressman. He's also a friend of the show.
I feel like we get in this habit of see
we on the right, see what we were saying was true,
and it's been five years and they got to do
whatever they wanted on the other side, and now they're
(25:56):
admitting it, and now we all just move on. That
was certainly of basically everything COVID related, and I think
unfortunately when it comes to online censorship or just censorship
in general, that is also the story here now that
nobody really cares. YouTube's like, fine, we shut you guys
down for saying things that are truthful in terms of
(26:16):
payouts play that part of the just the logistical problem
with that is, well, they if they destroyed your channel,
like how much money would you have made? You can't
really know, right, I mean you know, what would the
algorithm have done in terms of your viewership. You know
how many people would have tuned in that couldn't tune
in because you were suspended or whatever. So there's a
little too much I think extrapolation in the math there.
But I do agree that there should be, you know,
(26:38):
some form of I don't know if the word reparations
is what we need here, but some form of payment
made to people or some form of payment made, just
even if it's a token gesture because YouTube did all
this stuff and it's not like they're sending notes to
people now to apologize. I mean, for a lot of people,
(26:59):
this was you were talking when you're running an outcake
and it was a company. But for a lot of
people were individual, individual creators or you know, smaller shows.
Maybe the two or three grand they were making on
YouTube was really significant to help them pay their bills
because there was an audience there that wanted their content,
and YouTube just said, no, you're not a mask freak.
You don't want a double mask in the shower like
(27:20):
Fauci says, and put your N ninety five on when
you're in the car alone. So we're gonna shut you down. Again.
This is where they say, oh, well, YouTube has a
right to do it. They were doing it at the
direction of the government, which brings me to this is
the biggest First Amendment violation we've ever seen, not little
Jimmy Kimmel crying into his millions for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And by the way, it wasn't just Google, which owns YouTube,
which was doing it across all of its platform, Facebook,
TikTok and every book. Everybody did it. And I took
you behind the curtain a little bit yesterday. It led
to you're saying, Okay, what were the consequences, Clay. They
wouldn't air my show live because they were suspending the
(28:02):
YouTube channel of OutKick to such an extent that they
would go in and I said, I'm not going to
change what I'm saying, because to their credit Twitter, we
would simulcast the show, would actually do it live on Twitter,
and Twitter didn't restrict us to my knowledge, but I said,
I'm not going to restrict myself. They would tape it
go back in edit out anything that I said about
(28:23):
the COVID shot being worthless, or mask being worthless, or
kids needing to be back in school, or we can
play sports so that the show could actually go up
in some form or fashion without us being completely banned.
And Buck, what I would like to see, and I
don't know that this organization exists, Maybe I need to
found it. What I would like to see is an
(28:45):
organization that the aco you used to be that's actually
committed to let's have a robust, uninhibited debate in this country,
and let's actually give the financial resources to people that
are being shut down. To your point, Buck, two or
three grand for somebody at YouTube that is starting, and
(29:06):
I've been there can be the difference between I'm able
to do this for a living and I'm not. So
when they grab you and they basically curtail your distribution,
then they can destroy your entire company. And I want
to be able to provide. And I think it's a
significant thing that we need an organization to actually stand
(29:27):
up for the little guy or gal out there who
is being artificially curtailed. And I just come back to
if there are no consequences, then what have you actually
learned from being wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, this is where I come down on the YouTube.
I don't view this as some great story that we
knew this, what we said was true. It was true
all along. It was true about COVID. It was true
when we said they were censoring over COVID. Also on
election stuff too, twenty twenty election stuff and a lot
to talk about that. And I don't view this as
some victory for the right. There's no now And then
(30:00):
you could say, well, then why you guys are saying
you want to build up the YouTube? Yeah, because if
we can get a million a million people a day
to watch us on YouTube for the next three years
before we get shut down again, that helps in the broader,
the broader discussion for the future of the country, to
reach as many people as we can with what we
believe is the truth, and they need to hear on
this show. But to Clay it, it's this is why
(30:22):
we need to still have all the various platforms that
we can use, and fortunately we have radio. Unfortunately, by
the way, you and me were able to say what
we wanted to say and speak the truth on radio
uninterrupted and without we.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Know, thanks at iHeart who deserves this was the real
free speech platform radio and radio radio.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Is there for people when there's a natural disaster. It's
like the radio is the one thing that works, you know,
like AM band, FM band, the one, the things that
work for you and radio during COVID was my salvation.
I got shut down on YouTube, on TikTok, on Facebook,
on everything, but I was able to speak for three
hours a day. And some of you were listening to
me then and telling you in April in May of
(31:08):
twenty twenty, this is insane. People have lost their minds.
They're throwing out all the science and saying it's science.
And never, once, never, once was I pulled off the
radio for any of that, so rady, and it was
all true. So that was good, helpful to be right
when you're doing a free speech thing. So this is
a big thing though, because they'll do it again. They
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haven't changed at all, and which I think, Clay, the
problem you brought up the ACLU the left in its
heart and soul ideologically in this country. First of all,
I would argue that they were always working to chit,
chip away at what they thought was the dominant paradigm
in this country. And there was always a little bit
of a left wing agenda and a lot of these
(31:50):
civil liberties organizations, so put that aside. Now the left
has no pretense at all. The free speech. They even
they don't care. It's just we get to say what
we want and we get to boot heel you in
the face when you say things we don't want. And
those are the rules. Those are the rules the Democrats want.
They don't even pretend otherwise. That's why they want hate
speech laws in place. That's why they want social media
(32:12):
platforms to work at the past of the government when
the government's in charge, and then when the government is
in charge on our side of it, it's, oh my gosh,
the First Amendment, the first Amendment, they have not changed
at all, and they're going to continue to do this.
So we should just recognize that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
One positive since we had a lot of negatives all
in a row there. Sorry I don't, but it was
all true. It was all true. I do think that's
why Elon bought Twitter, and I think this is why
Larry Ellison has bought CBS, and potentially that's why they're
buying TikTok. I think a lot of these people out
there that weren't even particularly political. Remember Elon voted for
(32:45):
Biden in twenty twenty. I know everybody's like, oh, Elon's
a right wing idiot.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
He voted for Hillary.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Like he's just seen and to a certain extent what
I saw that this is broken and we have to
fix it.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Clay. The corporate media made it mandatory, like mandatory religious observance,
that you go all in on the transagenda, and that
you go all in on the BLM. Black men are
murdered by cops out of racism with no consequence. These
are lies. I mean, this is crazy stuff. Those are
mandatory at places like CBS News, mandatory at CNN. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
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Speaker 3 (35:26):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Bucker taking calls here. Don.
He's driving his truck through Nashville. Our truckers, we love him.
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Don?
Speaker 8 (35:36):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Clay and Buck?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
How's it going? We're fantasy, right man. Thank you for
taking my call.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
I appreciate it. Clay. I'm waving a hand as we
go by.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I'd like to start.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Off my call with expressing my sincereous condolences to Charlie's
entire family, especially his wife, mother, father, and children. But
I want to call out Gavin Newsom for exemplifying what
fascism is, saying that he doesn't believe that we're going
(36:12):
to have the next election for president because well, because
he thinks is a fascist in charge. Yet, wasn't it
the Democrats that the last three election cycles didn't even
allow their own party to name their candidate.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Well, don let me just say you are a first
class clay and buck listener, because we're going to talk
about that Gavin Newsom statement and also his comments on
ice coming up in a moment here, So we're going
to be having that discussion. And we've got also Jim Jordan.
I know he's going to be joining us, so we'll
talk to Jim Jordan. But I will tell you something
(36:46):
as well, everybody. I was reading my Commala memoir last night.
Welcome man that we are here Wednesday edition of the program.
A lot of stories to discuss with all of you.
Congressman Jim Jordan going to be with us at one
point thirty to talk about Google admitting that YouTube canceled.
Conservatives Sorry, He's gonna be with us at one here
in about an hour, and then in the third hour
(00:21):
we're going to be joined by Florida's Senator Rick Scott
to talk about the latest on the budget battle on
Capitol Hill. Shutdown or no shutdown. Buck and I have
told you for years that this is probably the story
that always ends with the government being funded and yet
turns into a multi day, multi week drama filled. Oh
(00:44):
my goodness, what's going to happen? Spoiler alert. They're all
going to spend a lot more of your money. This
is how it's going to win. But people will get
fired up and we will discuss that. But unfortunately, breaking
news in the last hour and a half or so,
a shooting has taken place at a Dallas ice facility.
(01:07):
A sniper on a roof who has engraved anti ice
messages on his bullets. Not dissimilar to what happened with
Luigi Mangioni left wing shooter who assassinated the United Healthcare CEO,
not dissimilar to the person who killed Charlie Kirk in
(01:28):
an act of cold blooded political assassination. This has become
quite the left wing trend. If you want to know
what the motivation is, all you have to do is
actually check the bullets and let's go to the latest
news announcements on that, which begins.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I believe with cut one.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Maybe most of all, I want to think to people.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Who don't support well, that's nice. We'll get to Jimmy
Kimmel in a little bit. But the top of the
list here for the shooting that just took place, this
is going to be if I need to pull up
the exact number, right off the top of the of
the list. Cut to FBI Special Agent in Charge Joe
(02:16):
Rothrock is telling us just what happened in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is
investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is, unfortunately,
just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence
to include here in North Texas. We're back on July fourth,
we saw a coordinate attack carried out against an immigration
detention center in Albado, Texas. What I can also share
(02:40):
with you is it early evidence that we've seen from
rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain messages
that are anti.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Ice in nature.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Again, this is just the most recent example of this
type of attack.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, so Buck, this is direct result of the hetic
we've been hearing for some time.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
This is left wing terrorism. This is anti Republican, anti Trump,
anti rule of law terrorism. I don't know why there's
a hesitation to say this, Maybe because I think I
would still qualify as a terrorism expert. I feel like
I can just say this. I used to argue with
with people about this when it was in the old
(03:22):
Jihadis days. We had all this jihatas terrorism happening, and
as we know, there'd be very clear, very clear motivation,
and they would always say, we'll never know the real motives.
Wean now targeted violence. Yeah, just it's terrorism. If you
want to say suspected terrorism, fine, you know, in the
in the opening hours after incident like this, but this
(03:43):
was targeting a government facility with anti government messages written
on the bullets, and as we know, this was also
the case with the Charlie kirk assassin. And there's a
very clear pattern that is emerging here everybody. First of all,
these terrorists, the Charlie kirkissas was a terrorist. This individual
who took his life, we don't know much more about
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him than that also engaged in an act of terrorism. Remember, Clay,
you're an insurrectionist terrorist according to Democrats if you non
violently entered the Capitol building on video for sixty seconds
with police officers waving you in and with people walking
and respecting the velvet ropes and statuary hall. I'm not
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saying everybody was in that category. There are some people
that scuffled with cops, but there were a lot of
people who just walked into the building and were treated
like terrorists. We now have people who are murdering people
at government facilities because they are angry with government policy.
This is textbook definition political violence terrorism. And they feel
the need, these terrorists now to write their beliefs on
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the bullets because I think they want everyone to know.
I think they are worried, and I mean this, I
know this sounds crazy. I think they are worried that
CNN is going to say we may never know the motive.
We may never know the motive of this guy. This
isn't about left or right. This isn't this guy is
like no ices fascism. Here's why I'm doing this. I'm
(05:13):
a maniac because I listen to what the New York
Times and cnnsay every day that. Let me ask you,
I think he wants to make it explicit.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You are more knowledgeable and weaponry than me.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
This whole engraving messages on bullets thing, it obviously is
becoming a trend. I think to your point, the reason
is becoming a trend is because these left wingers have
heard left wing media say every time a left winger
does something.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We may never know the reason that he did this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Right, anytime somebody has a connection to the right or Trump,
instantaneously it's well, this is what happens in Trump's America.
Anytime somebody engages in left wing political violence terrorism, as
you just said, the media response to the media is, well,
you know, there's a lot of conflicting stories here. We
may never know the motives. So they're saying, here is motive,
but how weird is it to engrave bullets? Is this
(06:03):
easy to do? Is this common? What have you seen
in your like sort of gun background.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's yeah, I mean it's not It's not hard to
do at all. It's odd.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But is this a popular trend? I mean, like I
just I have.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, if you're asking, I have fired tens of
thousands of rounds in my life. I have never seen
or done this bullet engraving in my life. Now, this
is not a This is not a thing that people
generally do for fun. I mean, think about it. It makes
if you're going to range, it makes no sense. Why
would you do this?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
That was my general idea. But you're more more knowledgeable
and weaponry than me. But it has become a left
wing trend with luigim ANDNGIONI with now this shooter of Charlie.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Kirkin now and I think we've stumbled on for everybody
here and this will now reverberate through the broader ecosystem,
and I hope that it does. I hope people on
the right understand this. They are writing their motives on
the bullets because the terrorists want everyone to know, and
they're sick of CNN, for political reasons, pretending that we
may never know what the motive is. I think that's right.
(07:03):
This is absolutely what is going on here. You know,
this is the This is like somebody leaving a suicide
note because they want to, you know, have their say
or they want to tell people why. In this case,
this guy committed it was a murder suicide and it
just couldn't be more clear to me that that's what's
going on here. And I'm sorry, but I also have
to point out that this person who did this, and
(07:24):
there are people who are dead. I mean, this is
there are two people who have been murdered by this maniac.
Their families are getting the worst news imaginable today. Those
families are shattered. They have to deal with this. You know,
we don't know much of the details of either the
victims or the shooter yet. But Clay, you had Gavin Newsom,
who is currently I think the de facto leader of
(07:45):
the Democrat Party. I mean, people could argue that, but
I think that's a fair assessment, talking about how it's
fascism for members of ICE to have their identities protected
while they're doing their completely lawful jobs, because he wants
them to be able to be docs by Antifa, and
he wants their families to get death threats, so he
is sending a signal to everybody. The governor of California
(08:07):
are largest state. The people who are doing the work
of immigrations and customs enforcement are fair game for all
kinds of things, and some people take it to this extreme.
It's certainly, by the way, fair game to be having
this like obstruction and gathering at these facilities and shouting
epithets at them. These are law enforcement officers. Gavin Newsom
(08:28):
should be a shamed He's incapable of shame, but this
is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Cashptel, by the way, has posted photos of the ammunition
ammunition rounds already on social media showing that I mean legitimately.
Now it looks like it's written in a pen, maybe
not an engraver, but anti ICE is written on the
on the rounds and.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Again something yeah, go ahead, go ahead. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Ted because Ted Cruz is also our friend from senator
from Texas saying this, this is cut one.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
This must stop.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
To every politician who is using rhetoric demonizing ICE and
demonizing CBP, stop to every politician demanding that ICE agents
be doxed and calling for people to go after their families,
stop this has very real consequences. Look, in America, we disagree.
That's fine, that's the democratic process. But your political opponents
(09:32):
are not Nazis. We need to learn to work together
without demonizing each other, without attacking each other. And I
want to say thank you. I want to say thank
you to the brave men and women at law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Okay, I mean everything he says, Everything Senator Cruz says
is correct, It needs to be said. It will have
no impact. They're not going to stop. I'm not saying
he shouldn't say, it needs to be said, but they're
not going to stop. And that's what we need to
recognize here because this is is the resistance. Now, this
is the center of Democrat opposition to Trump, to Maga,
to all of it, and Clay to the point I
(10:08):
was making, And I know you're on board for this,
because I think we just assessed this very straight in
a very straightforward way. The terrorists, and they are terrorists,
are writing their motives on their bullets so that CNN
can have a spin room thing of like, well, we
may never know. And obviously they need to do things
like that because look at Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel goes
on the air and says that it was one of
(10:30):
the Maga gang who killed Charlie kirk Er. It was
one of their people or whatever it is that he said.
So it's not strange at all that these terrorists are
making it. Even when they make it explicit, there are
people who are going to be saying, oh, this isn't
for the purpose that you are engaged in this terrorism.
So I think they want to make it completely inescapably obvious.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think that's one hundred percent true. I also think.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
At some point in time, and we've been talking about
this on this show for a long time. We even
mentioned yesterday on The Atlantic, there's going to have to
be a real discussion, and I think it's going to
have to come from the left of the fact that
there are a lot of people that have been told
for a decade that we're all Nazis. Just almost everybody
(11:19):
listening to this program right now, that we're Nazi stormtroopers,
and that our lives are as a result, not worthy
of protection and in fact are worthy of being taken.
And all of these people believe this is important. I
think too, they think they're heroes, like they think they
are the good guys that are standing up to evil
(11:41):
because their politicians have convinced them of it.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You've brought up that it's kind of intentionally surreal or
absurd Baby Hitler analogy right, which people talk about and
especially online. We don't even have to make it absurd.
We could bring it into the present day if it
were in fact true. And to be very clear, it
is not right. We all know that, yes, if it
were in fact true that immigrations and customs enforcement were
(12:07):
making people quote disappear off the streets, never to be
seen again again, explicitly a lie. This is not true.
But if that were true, would it be morally justified
to take up arms against them? Well, before we even
have to pose an answer to the hypothetical, we see
what maniacs are doing. We see that people believe they
(12:30):
have a right to obstruct these law enforcement officers physically,
to threaten their families, and in this case, to open
fire on a government facility. How many ice facilities were
under fire during all four years of Biden? Did it
ever happen?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't you know.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Within a rifle like this, I'm not aware of it.
And people are starting to see I think Morclay as
well that and this is why I appreciate what Ted
Cruz is saying. But this is now the whole game
for the left of the Democrats is hysteria. They can't
climb down from this because to climb down from saying
that ice are fascists is to admit that they were lying,
(13:06):
and to admit that they are lying is to further
limit their political power. And you know, this just becomes
zero sum for them. So we're in a very dangerous
moment here as a country, and they're just making it
worse every single day.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Amen, we'll take some of your reactions, and certainly as
we continue the show, Jim Jordan going to join us
top of the next hour. Senator Rick Scott, I do
think Jim Jordan's discussion we're going to have is important
because what we can only do to combat this is
call it out. And in order to call it out,
you have to have free and fair access to many
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of the platforms that everybody uses, and we didn't have
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Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We started
off talking about the fatal shooting at that ice facility
in Dallas, so to continue to monitor that closely, and
we'll talk more about the the rhetoric from Democrats that
I think you cannot separate from these actions. And I'll
just note this, anytime anything bad happened that they could
even begin to pretend had some association with MAGA or Trump. Ever,
(15:10):
it was all hands on deck effort from the media.
And now, of course we could have videotape confessions of
the terrorists, the left wing terrorists, saying this is why
I did it, this is who inspired me, this is
why I targeted, and your CNN they're like, we just
we may never know the motive. I mean, this is
the game that they play. They have no ethics, they
have no honesty. So I think that's important to keep
(15:33):
in mind. We also have the return of Jimmy Kimmel
to the air, which we should we should discuss. He
thanked some people on the right for defending him. Not me,
but some people got thanked. And he is back on
(15:53):
the air, and I will play some some of the
clips from him, Clay, but I have to say, I
think think it's just not even nearly good enough for me,
And I disagree with the notion that this was a
big First Amendment win, because this was just an ABC
corporate decision through and through. And he's already back on
(16:15):
the air, so I don't know what we're all supposed
to be so upset about. The guy's at jerk. He's
still saying some jerk things, just in a softer voice.
And now we're supposed to what think that Jimmy Kimmel
is going to be nice to people on the right,
or he's going to be fair to them or try
to make jokes. I think this whole thing was, unfortunately
just to kind of a distraction.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think that's likely to be uh.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I think that's likely to be the case, and I
think most people are going to go back to mostly
ignoring late night television hosts. I do think that there
is a big story that still needs to be had
and a big fight that needs to be had, And
I actually think what came out of Google and that
we're going to talk about with Jim Jordan at the
(17:00):
top of the next hour is far more significant. Because
whatever you think of any comedian, their individual power to
impact things as small, the power of YouTube, the power
of Google to artificially influence the direction of conversation that
we have, and frankly, to basically make it almost impossible
for many media organizations to exist. I mean, I saw
(17:22):
this firsthand that's the real story to me.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, will there I mean m clay, will there be
any We'll talk to Jim Jordan about this. Will there
be any consequences? I think the answers certainly know. Will
they do it again? I think the answer certainly is
the concern. So what have we them admitting it now?
This is why, whether it's delayed motive in the media
reporting or delayed acceptance of what the social media companies
(17:47):
were happening, delay just avoids accountability, and I think unfortunately,
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show, Well are
going to dive in? Buck asked the question that I
think is actually probably paramount. We're gonna talk about this
with Jim Jordan. They shut down. I think we have
audio of this, and I want to play it. I
want to make sure that I get the audio right.
(19:14):
You guys listen to this show every day. We love
you and we thank you, and we want to be
everywhere that basically audiences are. So we're up on YouTube
right now. We hope after the first of the year,
we're going to have full video of the show available forever.
Maybe YouTube is going to be better to conservative. Maybe
I'm not, you know, but we're hoping and we want
(19:35):
to reach as many people on YouTube because that's where
a lot of the young, up and coming conservatives and
just people who want to see things right. So it's
like I said, Clay, we use all the tools at
our disposal.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That's exactly right. This is uh.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I had the team go back and look because we
interviewed sitting Senator of the United States ran Paul about COVID,
and this was such so let me take a step back.
I ran out Kickbuck. When I ran out kick we
made a lot of money off YouTube. We were firing
(20:10):
on all cylinders. Audience was really rolling. We were doing
very very well on YouTube, and then COVID hits and COVID.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Just throw this out there. You're doing that was sports sports,
like you were a sports guy then, so the idea
that you would get in trouble on YouTube for sports
talk is particularly out there. Like I was in the
center of the beast being like defeat the communists, so
of course YouTube hated me.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Well, so the YouTube stuff started for us when I
had the goal to say, hey, I think we can
play sports safely and we should open schools back up,
because that was the initial entry point for me, Buck
was I was just a guy doing a sports talk
show with no sports going on, who was looking around
and saying, hey, you guys realized that NFL football is
(21:00):
way more dangerous than the COVID virus is, right, Like,
you're if you told me right now play would you
rather get COVID or try to take ten hits in
an NFL football game? I might die from the NFL hits.
I've had COVID probably seven hundred and forty eight times
at this point, and I'm fine. And people were like, oh,
you can't say that. This is an unacceptable opinion to have,
(21:24):
and so we started to get severely restricted. And then
we had President Trump on the show and he said
college football can be played safely, and I want all
the schools to open up, and suddenly you couldn't find
us anymore, like we just overnight. We basically vanished, and
eventually it got to the point where YouTube suspended the
(21:45):
OutKick Show. But on this program, we talked with a
sitting United States Center and he's running for reelection. He
is a doctor, Ran Paul. We love him from Kentucky.
And this is the censorship of the show. I believe
this is Is this the throwback machine? Producer Ali Cut four,
(22:08):
cut five is the throwback? This is us talking with
Ran Paul. This is January fifteenth, twenty twenty two, on
this show. YouTube would not allow this that we're about
to play to be posted. Listen, we're joined by Senator
Ran Paul of Kentucky. Senator, I appreciate you joining us.
Were you surprised to hear that YouTube would not allow
(22:30):
us to post our interview with you, because that, to
me is next level crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
You're a sitting senator, you're a doctor.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You came on our show, biggest radio show in the country,
to share your opinions as an elected official, and YouTube
won't allow us to distribute that conversation.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Well, YouTube has a history of censorship and people should
quit using them. People should go as far as they can.
They should support competitors like rumble dot com. They should
go to my website Liberty dot com. They should listen
to your radio. But we need to quit using these people.
We need to quit giving them content and if they're right,
if conservatives left YouTube completely, it'll dwindle. Same with Twitter.
(23:09):
These people, if they're going to censor us, we should
leave them. I looked back at the interview and the
only thing I can see is that one of the
things we discussed was whether or not adolescent males have
an increased risk of myer carditis. Without question, it's.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
True, Senator Paul, it's buck. Thanks as always for being
with us. I do think that the YouTube policy is
still officially and we have this centrist by our digital
team that you cannot question the effectiveness of masks, that
that is not allowed by YouTube stated guidelines, and that
they will shut things down as a result of this.
(23:43):
How are we supposed to make sense of it when
we have not only you and others who are medical
doctors and policy experts who are weighing in on this one,
but even some who had been big mask proponents in
the past, whether we're talking about Scott Gottlieb or Lena
when both doctors they've been willing to say masks don't work.
(24:04):
So it feels like we're in a very Orwellian world
where some people can say that masks don't work or
don't work well, but others like you can't.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
This is the full hardy nature of sort of censorship.
Is YouTube now going to censor the CDC? I mean,
the CDC has admitted that the cloth mass are ineffective.
I believe that's from the CDC website. Now, so is
YouTube going to edit the CDC as well?
Speaker 8 (24:29):
No?
Speaker 7 (24:30):
I mean, realize who these bumbling idiots are that are
doing the censorship. Sometimes there are grad students from France
or something. I mean, it's people who have no concept
of what the real scientific matter is at hand. And
it's actually fairly simple that the randomized controlled studies on
cloth masks show they don't work.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Here's my take, Buck and all that was correct, you
couldn't see it on YouTube. And we'll talk about this
with Jim Jordan here at the top of the next hour.
I think you Tube should have to pay out hundreds
of millions of dollars, maybe even billions of dollars to
Conservative And I don't even like the term conservative because
(25:11):
that's not that's just common sense, Like, hey, it shouldn't
have been a political issue of whether you could wear
a mask into a restaurant and then you could take
it off when you set down an eight, like, yes,
it became political, but it's nonsense that we even have to.
But there should be consequences that are financial in nature,
because to your point, otherwise there's nothing to disincentivize them
(25:34):
from ever doing this.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, this is why I'm so frustrated with this. And
I'll pose this to Jim Jordan. You know we Jim
is a great congressman. He's also a friend of the show.
I feel like we get in this habit of see
we on the right, see what we were saying was true,
and it's been five years and they got to do
whatever they wanted on the other side, and now they're
(25:56):
admitting it, and now we all just move on. That
was certainly of basically everything COVID related, and I think
unfortunately when it comes to online censorship or just censorship
in general, that is also the story here now that
nobody really cares. YouTube's like, fine, we shut you guys
down for saying things that are truthful in terms of
(26:16):
payouts play that part of the just the logistical problem
with that is, well, they if they destroyed your channel,
like how much money would you have made? You can't
really know, right, I mean you know, what would the
algorithm have done in terms of your viewership. You know
how many people would have tuned in that couldn't tune
in because you were suspended or whatever. So there's a
little too much I think extrapolation in the math there.
But I do agree that there should be, you know,
(26:38):
some form of I don't know if the word reparations
is what we need here, but some form of payment
made to people or some form of payment made, just
even if it's a token gesture because YouTube did all
this stuff and it's not like they're sending notes to
people now to apologize. I mean, for a lot of people,
(26:59):
this was you were talking when you're running an outcake
and it was a company. But for a lot of
people were individual, individual creators or you know, smaller shows.
Maybe the two or three grand they were making on
YouTube was really significant to help them pay their bills
because there was an audience there that wanted their content,
and YouTube just said, no, you're not a mask freak.
You don't want a double mask in the shower like
(27:20):
Fauci says, and put your N ninety five on when
you're in the car alone. So we're gonna shut you down. Again.
This is where they say, oh, well, YouTube has a
right to do it. They were doing it at the
direction of the government, which brings me to this is
the biggest First Amendment violation we've ever seen, not little
Jimmy Kimmel crying into his millions for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
And by the way, it wasn't just Google, which owns YouTube,
which was doing it across all of its platform, Facebook,
TikTok and every book. Everybody did it. And I took
you behind the curtain a little bit yesterday. It led
to you're saying, Okay, what were the consequences, Clay. They
wouldn't air my show live because they were suspending the
(28:02):
YouTube channel of OutKick to such an extent that they
would go in and I said, I'm not going to
change what I'm saying, because to their credit Twitter, we
would simulcast the show, would actually do it live on Twitter,
and Twitter didn't restrict us to my knowledge, but I said,
I'm not going to restrict myself. They would tape it
go back in edit out anything that I said about
(28:23):
the COVID shot being worthless, or mask being worthless, or
kids needing to be back in school, or we can
play sports so that the show could actually go up
in some form or fashion without us being completely banned.
And Buck, what I would like to see, and I
don't know that this organization exists, Maybe I need to
found it. What I would like to see is an
(28:45):
organization that the aco you used to be that's actually
committed to let's have a robust, uninhibited debate in this country,
and let's actually give the financial resources to people that
are being shut down. To your point, Buck, two or
three grand for somebody at YouTube that is starting, and
(29:06):
I've been there can be the difference between I'm able
to do this for a living and I'm not. So
when they grab you and they basically curtail your distribution,
then they can destroy your entire company. And I want
to be able to provide. And I think it's a
significant thing that we need an organization to actually stand
(29:27):
up for the little guy or gal out there who
is being artificially curtailed. And I just come back to
if there are no consequences, then what have you actually
learned from being wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, this is where I come down on the YouTube.
I don't view this as some great story that we
knew this, what we said was true. It was true
all along. It was true about COVID. It was true
when we said they were censoring over COVID. Also on
election stuff too, twenty twenty election stuff and a lot
to talk about that. And I don't view this as
some victory for the right. There's no now And then
(30:00):
you could say, well, then why you guys are saying
you want to build up the YouTube? Yeah, because if
we can get a million a million people a day
to watch us on YouTube for the next three years
before we get shut down again, that helps in the broader,
the broader discussion for the future of the country, to
reach as many people as we can with what we
believe is the truth, and they need to hear on
this show. But to Clay it, it's this is why
(30:22):
we need to still have all the various platforms that
we can use, and fortunately we have radio. Unfortunately, by
the way, you and me were able to say what
we wanted to say and speak the truth on radio
uninterrupted and without we.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Know, thanks at iHeart who deserves this was the real
free speech platform radio and radio radio.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Is there for people when there's a natural disaster. It's
like the radio is the one thing that works, you know,
like AM band, FM band, the one, the things that
work for you and radio during COVID was my salvation.
I got shut down on YouTube, on TikTok, on Facebook,
on everything, but I was able to speak for three
hours a day. And some of you were listening to
me then and telling you in April in May of
(31:08):
twenty twenty, this is insane. People have lost their minds.
They're throwing out all the science and saying it's science.
And never, once, never, once was I pulled off the
radio for any of that, so rady, and it was
all true. So that was good, helpful to be right
when you're doing a free speech thing. So this is
a big thing though, because they'll do it again. They
(31:30):
haven't changed at all, and which I think, Clay, the
problem you brought up the ACLU the left in its
heart and soul ideologically in this country. First of all,
I would argue that they were always working to chit,
chip away at what they thought was the dominant paradigm
in this country. And there was always a little bit
of a left wing agenda and a lot of these
(31:50):
civil liberties organizations, so put that aside. Now the left
has no pretense at all. The free speech. They even
they don't care. It's just we get to say what
we want and we get to boot heel you in
the face when you say things we don't want. And
those are the rules. Those are the rules the Democrats want.
They don't even pretend otherwise. That's why they want hate
speech laws in place. That's why they want social media
(32:12):
platforms to work at the past of the government when
the government's in charge, and then when the government is
in charge on our side of it, it's, oh my gosh,
the First Amendment, the first Amendment, they have not changed
at all, and they're going to continue to do this.
So we should just recognize that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
One positive since we had a lot of negatives all
in a row there. Sorry I don't, but it was
all true. It was all true. I do think that's
why Elon bought Twitter, and I think this is why
Larry Ellison has bought CBS, and potentially that's why they're
buying TikTok. I think a lot of these people out
there that weren't even particularly political. Remember Elon voted for
(32:45):
Biden in twenty twenty. I know everybody's like, oh, Elon's
a right wing idiot.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
He voted for Hillary.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Like he's just seen and to a certain extent what
I saw that this is broken and we have to
fix it.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Clay. The corporate media made it mandatory, like mandatory religious observance,
that you go all in on the transagenda, and that
you go all in on the BLM. Black men are
murdered by cops out of racism with no consequence. These
are lies. I mean, this is crazy stuff. Those are
mandatory at places like CBS News, mandatory at CNN. That's insane.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
It is absolutely insane. You know what else is insane?
Not playing along with us on Prize Picks. I'm gonna
give you a pick tomorrow. We've won two out of three.
Props to the guys and gals at Prize Picks. By
the way, they built such a great business. It just
sold for four point one five billion dollars. I mean,
(33:46):
I love these guys. They're big friends of mine, they're
sponsors of the program. We have a lot of fun
playing their games. But this is the American dream. You
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billion dollars because they have made sports a little bit
(34:07):
more fun than sports otherwise would have been. And so look,
I love playing along with them. I hope you want
to play along with us. We were just talking about
standing up for what you believe. These guys said, Hey,
we want to appeel to everybody. We like Clay, we
like Buck. We want to be on their show. Go
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(34:27):
you play five dollars, Just pick more or less your
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Speaker 2 (34:33):
Wobbley, Little Wobbley out there, New York. Congrats the Yankees
making the playoffs. You love.
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Major League Baseball, Major League Baseball playoffs soon to be underway,
NFL Underway, College Football Underway, Ryder Cup going on this
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Speaker 3 (35:26):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Bucker taking calls here. Don.
He's driving his truck through Nashville. Our truckers, we love him.
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Don?
Speaker 8 (35:36):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Clay and Buck?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
How's it going? We're fantasy, right man. Thank you for
taking my call.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
I appreciate it. Clay. I'm waving a hand as we
go by.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I'd like to start.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Off my call with expressing my sincereous condolences to Charlie's
entire family, especially his wife, mother, father, and children. But
I want to call out Gavin Newsom for exemplifying what
fascism is, saying that he doesn't believe that we're going
(36:12):
to have the next election for president because well, because
he thinks is a fascist in charge. Yet, wasn't it
the Democrats that the last three election cycles didn't even
allow their own party to name their candidate.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Well, don let me just say you are a first
class clay and buck listener, because we're going to talk
about that Gavin Newsom statement and also his comments on
ice coming up in a moment here, So we're going
to be having that discussion. And we've got also Jim Jordan.
I know he's going to be joining us, so we'll
talk to Jim Jordan. But I will tell you something
(36:46):
as well, everybody. I was reading my Commala memoir last night.
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