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October 7, 2025 16 mins

In this episode of Wellness Unmasked, Dr. Nicole Saphier explores the October Theory—how shorter days and less sunlight in fall can affect mood, energy, and overall health. She breaks down the science behind vitamin D, serotonin, and seasonal affective disorder (SAD), offering practical, natural ways to stay balanced through the colder months. From sunlight and exercise to nutrition and supplements, Dr. Saphier shares expert tips for boosting your mental and physical wellness this fall. Plus, she introduces DropRx, her new herbal supplement line designed to support health all season long. Wellness Unmasked is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Friday.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Wellness on Mass. I'm doctor Nicole Saffire and
this is where we are going to peel back the
layers of modern health and we'll just get real about
what your body and soul needs to thrive. Today, we're
going to shine a light on something that I've recently
learned about. Have you ever heard of October theory. Now
I'm not talking about Orange theory. Don't get those confused.

(00:23):
Orange theory. I guess I think those are those little
pop up gyms and it's an exercise regimen. Now what
I'm talking about is October theory. And apparently it's a
real thing because I've been reading about it. Some call
it the October effect, and essentially what it is, it's
that the idea that as the dayly hours start shrinking,
you know, we have the shorter days, less sunshine, it

(00:46):
has a lot of effect on our body. Now we
already knew this, this is nothing new. But what's interesting
about the October theory that kids are going back to
school and people are back at work and these regimented schedules,
people are actually more motive to make changes specifically for
their health and wellness right now in October than they
say during the summer months. And by the way, is

(01:08):
it ever really too early to start preparing that bikini
body for those summer months. Time starts right now. So
let's talk about October theory and what are some things
that we should be doing as we head into these
shorter darker months. Well, one of the most important things
to understand is how the shorter darker days actually affects us.

(01:29):
I know you've heard of seasonal effective disorder, and maybe
you're like me. As there's less sunshine, you find yourself
being a little bit more sluggish, a little bit more moody.
As you're heading into the holidays, we're eating a lot more.
I'm telling you, your body is actually working against you.
It's not just all on your brain, although your brain
is part of the problem right now, So when we

(01:51):
think of the sunlight, when sunlight hits your skin, it
actually triggers a natural chemical reaction that converts cholesterol in
the skin to vitamin D. Now you've heard me talk
about vitamin D. Vitamin D is so important for our body.
Think of it really, as your body is built in
solar panel, Vitamin D travels through the liver and the

(02:11):
kidneys to become. It's active for calcid trill, which is
critical from everything from your bone health to your immune
regulation to your mental health. Here's where it gets really
really interesting. So, yes, vitamin D essential. You talked about
it a lot during COVID. It's really good for your
immune system. In fact, patients who are hospitalized from COVID

(02:32):
early on when they were given high doses of vitamin
D did better than those who didn't have vitamin D.
So we know it helps your immune system. And it
is cold flu in covid season, so we need our
immune system as strong as possible. It's also very good
for your bone health. It helps keep your bone hard,
helps metabolize certain things and keep it from weakening as

(02:53):
we age. We all age and we all lose some
of that density of our bones, so it's essential for
that too. But I want to also talk about how
it affects our mood, our mental health, and really just
our overall brain chemistry. So what does vitamin D actually
do in our brain. Well, it stimulates the pineal gland.
It's a tiny little gland in our brain, and it

(03:15):
stimulates the production of trip to fan hydroxylase. Don't worry
you don't need to remember that name of the enzyme,
But that enzyme actually converts trip to fan. Yes, that's
what you hear people talk about. It's in turkey and
some of the other things that we eat. But trip
tofan turns into serotonin from that enzyme trip to fan hydroxylase.

(03:36):
So that burst of energy and then calm or crash
you feel after a sunny day at the beach or
a big turkey meal. That's not your imagination. That's neurochemistry
in your brain in action. So what happens. Serotonin is
the body's natural mood stabilizer. You've heard of an SSRI, well,

(03:56):
that is the antidepressant anti anxiety medications try and increases
the amount of serotonin circulating in our brain and our body.
That's how that pharmaceutical drug works. Wouldn't it be great
if we could just increase our serotonin in a more
natural way, maybe with fewer side effects that are black
box warning on those medications. That seems like the right
thing to do. Serotonin promotes feelings of just overall well being,

(04:20):
keeps anxiety and check and affects appetite and even digestion.
Low serotonin levels are linked to depression, sleep problems, and
just that overall feeling of I can't get going in
the morning, I can't get going in the day that
many of us experience, especially when the days get short.
I'll be honest, I felt it yesterday. It's happening. It's real.

(04:41):
That's why you'll hear people talk about seasonal effective disorder,
also referred to as SAD. It's essentially a form of
depression that follows the rhythms of the season. People get
this seasonal depression as fall rolls in and the sunlight
exposure decreases. Because the vitamin D levels are dropping, the
serotonin product is slowing, and for many people, their mood

(05:03):
and energy it takes a hit, like they actually feel
it again, this isn't in their head. Well it is
in their head, it's in their brain, but it's actually
a chemical reaction that's happening that's making them feel this way.
And so this kind of plays into that October effect
that I was talking about, the idea that as the
daylight hours are shrinking and the serotonin dips, our internal

(05:23):
rhythm is shifting. It's called the circadian clock or circadian rhythm.
I'm sure you've heard it a few different ways. It's
essentially the system that regulates sleep, hormones and our body's metabolism.
It relies on sunlight as the center of it. Without sunlight,
that circadian rhythm is just out of whack and so
it falls out of sync. You can have sluggish feelings

(05:45):
during the day, then you have sleep disturbances at night. Well,
why is your sleep being disturbed If your sluggish all day,
you'd think your body wants to go to sleep well,
And again goes back to that brain chemistry serotonin. When
the sunlight goes off off, serotonin starts being converted to melatonin.
I know you've heard of melotonin. It's one of the

(06:06):
most popular natural herbs out there to help you sleep.
So when you are not being exposed to sun your
bodies own serotonin as now being converted to melatonin, and
melatonin is signaling to your body it's time to go
to sleep now. So daylight savings. When it's dark at
five pm, your brain is telling your body it's time

(06:26):
to go to bed. But a lot of us are
still at work. We have to get kids to soccer,
we have to cook dinner, we have to do laundry,
we have to do all those things. It is not
time for vedget. So what are some things that we
can do to make sure that we are maintaining our
circadian rhythms, trying to put off that evening time, melatonin burst,
all these things that we can potentially do naturally. Now,

(06:49):
I do want to make a quick caveat before we
go into the natural remedies for this. Some people are
truly affected by seasonal effective disorder to the fact that
their depression doesn't just stay the mild, low level depression.
It can be quite severe, especially as you head into
the holidays. There's feelings of isolation, being away from friends
and family, feeling alone. Sometimes you really do need help,

(07:12):
whether it's talking to someone a therapist, a doctor, and
sometimes you actually do need to pursue potential medications. For
that being said, you should try everything possible to treat
it naturally first and see if you can have some benefit.
But if not, there is no shame in talking to
a doctor about some alternative things that you can do.
Depression and seasonal effective disorder really does affect us all

(07:32):
very very differently. So for me, as we are heading
into these darker, shorter days, I am getting my family
geared up for it because it's kind of like survival
of the fittest. During the fall and winter season, it's
busy back to school and trying to ward off all
of these respiratory viruses, and we have shorter days, so
our body is trying to tell us to just sleep

(07:54):
all the time. What can we do? So here's what
I'm going to tell you. The most important thing is
start your day out by chasing that morning sunlight and
do it the best way you can. For me, I
mean I obviously when I'm waking up in the morning,
it's dark outside, so I turn on lots of lights
in my bedroom. That light is kind of stimulating my
brain saying the day has begun. Once the sun has

(08:18):
come out, I will stick my head out the window
if necessary, just to get a little bit of natural
sunlight on my face, to get that vitamin D synthesizing
and getting the serotonin going in my body. You can
do that by taking a walk outside. Maybe you need
to walk your dogs, try and wait until the sun
comes up, take a walk in the middle of the
morning at work, whatever you can do to get some

(08:39):
natural sunlight. Just roll up your sleeves. You don't need
to stand outside in a bikini. Just a little bit
of sunlight will go a long way by turning your
face up to the sun, rolling your sleeves up a
little bit. I promise you. The skin is your biggest
organ it is there to absorb this sunlight. So ten
to fifteen minutes of natural light first thing of the

(08:59):
day can be a game changer when it comes to
regulating your circadian rhythm. If you live in a place
where it is truly dark until like noontime, there are
little natural sun lamps that you can have. I'm not
talking about going to a tanning bed. I do not
recommend those, but even on Amazon you can see that
they have little lamps that you can put whether it

(09:20):
is in your bathroom in the morning, and it just
gives you a burst of light to try and set
the precedent for the morning for you. Some people may
consider taking vitamin D supplementation during the fall and winter months.
I personally actually take vitamin D supplementation all year round
because it is so crucial, especially for women as you
head off into that perimenopause menopausal time. Vitamin D is

(09:43):
incredible for you. We've already mentioned your immune system, your
bone health, but also mental health and other things. So,
especially if you're living in northern climates like the Northeast
like I am, you fall below your optimal levels by
mid fall in vitamin D and you take blood tests
and you will see a lot of people actually have

(10:03):
decreased vitamin D during this time. So you always want
to take the recommended dose, whether it's from your doctor,
whether it's from the back of your vitamin D supplements.
Don't think to yourself, I'm going to triple, double, quadruple
my dose. Don't do that. Okay, bad things can happen
when you take too much supplements, I promise. I mean,
just take what's recommended, and if you need a little

(10:24):
bit more, talk to your doctor about it, so they're
at least monitoring your levels. And I know I say
this at nauseum, But you want to be exercising regularly.
Why is that? Well, obviously exercising is very good for
our physical health, but it also naturally boosts serotonin production,
that's right, particularly aerobic activities, meaning like your cardiovascular stuff

(10:44):
like walking, running, cycling, whatever it is. I personally love
to exercise in the morning because that is when I
want that serotonin boost. Some people like to exercise in
the evening. That's totally fine because if it's boosting your serotonin,
when you turn off that light there, it's going to
turn into melotonin and tell your body it's time to sleep.
So either way, whatever time of day you can find

(11:06):
to exercise, even if it's for fifteen minutes, just do it.
Your body's going to thank you, I promise. There are
also some foods that are high in serotonin, or they're
high in trip to fan or other things that are
converted to serotonin in your body in the morning. The
things like eggs and oats are actually really high in
trip to fan. So we eat a lot of eggs
in my house, probably because we have chickens outside and

(11:29):
I need to go through those eggs. But eggs are
an incredible source of nutrients, one of them being tripped
to fan evening time. Think salmon, spinach, nuts, seeds. Thanksgiving
and all the holidays are coming up, Turkey is very
high in trip to fan. That's why you feel great
after you eat, and then you want to go sleep,
because that's right, You're serotonin switch to melatonin and your

(11:53):
body's like I'm sleep now and again I did mention
those light therapy lamps. I myself have never used one,
but I have bought them for my husband because if
anyone gets seasonal effective disorder, it is my husband in
the sense that he is more moody during the fall
and winter. He I think he was meant to live
on a beach. He loves the beach. He would never

(12:15):
think that he was from New York City. He loves sunlight,
he loves to be warm, and the colder, shorter, darker
months are hard for him. So going into it, we
know that. So he has a lamp and make him
take Vitamin D, make sure he's eating all the right things.
And I am a nag when it comes to exercise
because I want I don't want him to feel like

(12:36):
he has to go and hibernate for the next few
months because he feels sluggish and doesn't feel great during
the colder months. I want him to enjoy it. So
therefore we do what we can. Right, So those are
all the things that we can do to kind of
focus on our serotonin production and try and ward off
seasonal effective disorder. But I also want to embrace this
October theory even more because we deal with that every year,

(12:59):
but why not harm and something else? Is there a
way to challenge our brain a little bit during these
cooler months when we're not outside and there's not as
much to do. What can we be doing inside that
also is stimulating our brain and keeping us actively engaged
right now or working on puzzles. And they don't necessarily
love puzzles, but puzzles are very good for you. It

(13:21):
uses both sides of your brain. It uses a lot
of dexterity, pincer grass, fine motor, all of these things
that are really crucial for kids while they're developing. And
it's something you can do all weather. You can do
it inside. I know a lot of kids like legos.
We do too, but puzzles right now are what they're into.
But as an adult, doing a puzzle is also very important.

(13:41):
So I am doing my own puzzle right now. So
we all just kind of sit around and do it
and we're talking about the day and we work on
the puzzles for even just like fifteen twenty minutes a
day at the end of the day, something we're doing
together but also stimulating our brain. And the last thing
I want to mention, just because it's happening today, and
I want to make sure everyone who's listening to wellness

(14:02):
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nutraceutical brand. You may have heard me talk about it
a little bit. I don't talk about it that much.
It's essentially a line of nine different concoctions that I
put together during COVID for myself to treat my inflammation,
my pain, and a whole bunch of different things. Ones

(14:24):
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(14:44):
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I refuse to buy anything full price. So if you
are like me and you want to sail, now's your
time to do it. And Boost is the exact one

(15:04):
that you want to help fight off seasonal effective disorder
because Boost has Lion's made ashwagandha and some other natural
herbs that naturally boost your metabolism. Boost gives you a
little bit more energy and helps you start the day off.
So if we're doing all those things, we're chasing the
morning light, we're eating trip to fan rich food, We're exercising,

(15:25):
maybe throwing in some natural herbs and vitamin de supplementation,
maybe talking to a doctor if you need to all
of these things. I promise you we will get through
these winter months together. We will do what we can
to fight that sluggish feeling, and we'll get through on
the other side and be looking at the sun again
in springtime soon, I promise. I know it's October, so

(15:45):
Breast Cancer Awareness month. Seeing is that is my day job.
We will be talking about breast cancer. It's going to
be during October. It's going to be an episode that
you do not want to miss. But for now, chase
that sunshine. Do what you can to beat off that
sluggish feel. Thanks so much for listening to Wellness Unmasks.
I'm doctor Napole Sapphire. Make sure to listen to Wellness
Unmasked on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts, and

(16:08):
we will see you next time.

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