July 31, 2020 • 31 mins
In this episode of the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, Shane is joined by LPGA players and sisters, Jessica and Nelly Korda to discuss the return of the LPGA TOUR this week. Jessica and Nelly talk about how they've stayed busy during the layoff, why they fell in love with golf and the experience playing together in the Solheim Cup. They also share how different events will feel without fans and the biggest misconception about the LPGA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, a production of
I Heart Radio Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon.
I am your host, Shane Bacon. And if you're a
bit confused while you're getting a second clubhouse this week,
it's because the LPGA tours back, and I figured why not.
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The LPGA tours awesome and we should get as much
content as possible as they return on Friday. As you're
listening to this with the Drive on Championship if you
missed Mike jan the Commissioner of the LPGA earlier this week,
very interesting conversation to hear about everything that goes into
returning an entire group of sports athletes to their sport
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during COVID and the coronavirus, the pandemic and everything. So
that conversation earlier this week, this conversation with the Court
of Sisters, both of them Nellie and Jessica. As we
get set for the LPGA to kick off, mentioned the
Drive on Championship. If you're interested in coverage, it starts
on Friday, nine am Eastern till eleven thirty am on
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Golf Channel, Saturday four thirty to seven on Golf Channel
and Sunday, they wrap up five to seven and it's out.
It's at Inverness, which is one of the more excellent
golf courses out there. Had a chance to cover the
Junior m last year at Inverness. The Friday Egg has
a great video to take you through Inverness. If you
haven't seen that yet, I'll tweet that out with this
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episode so you get a chance to see that because
Andy and the crew to do an amazing job there
with everything, and it gives you a good look at
a golf course if you've never got a chance to
see it in person. Why it's so great? You know
you hear golf courses. This place is awesome, this place
is spectacular. Well why? I feel like that question sometimes
doesn't get answered, and Andy answers that through through his
video and his flyovers in his drone. So I'll I'll
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make sure to include that with the link to the podcast.
I hope you guys are having an awesome week. Hope
everybody is staying safe. I want to get to the
conversation because rarely do you get two sisters that are
Solheim Cup teammates and also two of the best players
in the world on the same podcast, So here you go.
I hope you enjoy and for the first time both
Court of Sisters in the Clubhouse and Nelly, I want
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to start today is is today your twenty one birthday? No? Second? Actually, okay,
I was so. First of all, I'll never get a math,
And second I was online and shockingly Wikipedia headed incorrect,
and I was wondering why anyone on the planet would
want to celebrate their twenty first birthday by doing this podcast.
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So it's actually better that it's your twenty second. I'm
I'm a lot happier this case, but happy birthday. Um.
Do you guys have anything planned this evening to celebrate? No,
I think we're just gonna I mean, well, we're in Toledo,
so we pretty much have to just quarantine in our
rooms because its first event. Yeah, Jess, I was gonna ask,
what what is protocol for people out there that don't
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know I mean the LPGA back this week. You guys
are playing an unbelievable golf course and it's exciting, But
what is protocol for for the LPGA tour and the
players as you guys get set to go, we're actually
learning it as we go. Um, I know that we're
not allowed to sit in restaurants, and then rooming with
other players is kind of crowned upon. I would say, um,
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and just I mean everyone just keeping their distance. We're
also waiting for um COVID results to come back. We
got tested yesterday. UM, so yeah, I mean it's it's
so weird. It really, it's so weird. DC players. We
went to the driving range today and you like, you
don't even know how to say hi. You haven't seen
them since January, and now you're like, I want to
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hug my friends, but you're like, I don't. I don't
know what to do right now. I bet it was like,
was it I don't know if you guys ever went
to a camp. I know you guys we were in
Bradenton for a while when you were younger, But was
this as close as you've ever been to the go
back to camp and be reunited with friends considering how
long a lay off it's been. Yes, like running on
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the range and then you get close and just have
to wave. I was listening to a JJ Reddick has
a podcast and he was talking about the NBA bubble
and the one thing that he said he wasn't prepared
for is how much downtime there'd be. He said, I've
never had this much downtime in my entire life. I mean,
obviously the last five or six months we've gone through this.
Every day. It's like two pm and you can't believe
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it's only two o'clock. The downtime now is going to
be spent basically in hotel rooms, you know, just hanging
and waiting to go out there in place. So I'm
imagining maybe more time spent practicing and and and on
practice rounds, considering that's kind of the place you can
go do something. I mean, for Nellie and I doesn't
really change a whole lot of what we do. Um,
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we're kind of homebodies and I travel with my dog Charlie,
so I just tried to find a park, which you know,
again is outdoors, so it's completely fine. Um, but we
kind of just like staying in the room and ordering
a newber eats or you know, getting something to go
and just chilling together because then once tournament round start,
it's it's pretty stressful and the more arrested you can get,
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the better. I wanted to ask both of you, but
I'll start with you Nelly, what do you feel like
you spent the most time doing during quarantine that maybe
you either didn't do or you did a little bit of,
but you couldn't believe you've spent this much time doing
it during during basically the last five six, seven months. Um. Well,
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thankfully all the golf courses in my area are actually open,
and I actually moved into my first place, so that
was exciting. But I just got to, I guess, hang
out with family my boyfriend when I came down, so
I got to spend some quality time with him, which
isn't really heard of when we travel so much. So
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it was actually quite nice. Yeah, and Nelly, you I
mean your your boyfriend. He plays in an NHL right,
So I mean you guys are kind of ships past
it in the night. What what are the Is this
the most time you've got a chance to kind of
spend together. Yeah, this is the most time I've ever
Sell was pretty much anyone. It was nice. But he's
he's Gonnat mentioned they're actually playing a game today and
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then they start August one, so he's getting ready. Now
we're both getting ready. It's go time for us. Yeah,
and Jess, I was going to ask you the same
question in terms of things you spent. I know early
on it was hit into a net. You weren't allowed
to kind of go out as much as Nellie was.
What did you do to kind of pass the time
that maybe you hadn't done in the past. Honestly, was
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just home, like settling stuff like the house and you know,
I was all of a sudden finding things that I like,
I need to change this, this needs to get updated.
Like it's just all of a sudden sens settling into
like a normal life. Um. Honestly forgot like where my
staff bag was going on so many more walks with Charlie,
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which I think he was just like okay, human like
I'm I'm good net where we don't need to go
for another walk? Um, But it was it was just
nice to be home for the first time I think
ever so that long. Yeah, and you were hitting balls
into a net. Now, one of the issues with the
practice in the net And now, mind you, you are
a professional golfer that's really really good, but you know
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you can hit into a net and bad habits can
come out and you have no idea what you're doing.
I was wondering, after all, your net practice. The first
ball you hit on a driving range, was it still
good or did you have maybe like a slight pull
or push that you'd basically perfected in the net? No,
I actually was. I would FaceTime or send videos to
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my coach because we're working on like a grip change.
So it worked really well for me because I was
able to work on the group change without seeing where
the ball went. But I actually just picked a spot
in the net that I was trying to aim at,
and I put a folding table underneath me and then
I put a mat on top of that, so I
was actually flat because the graph, I mean, you know,
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the grass, especially in Florida, is not the best to
practice off of. And so I was like, how do
I make this better? And how do I like make
it even underneath my feet? And so I just made
do with whatever we have. Yeah, it's it's adaptability. This
is what we're all having to go through right now.
It's it's it's what you have to do to make
yourself feel normal again. Um, you guys grew up in
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this unbelievably athletic household. I mean I don't I can't
imagine what it was like to be, you know, daughter
of a couple of professional tennis players, and your your
brother so athletic and so good. What was it like
for you guys growing up in a in a family
that was focused so much around sport and was tennis
is sport that was presented to you guys early on
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in hopes that maybe that would be the sport you
guys would follow, Jess, if you don't mind starting, Um, well,
for me, I honestly, our parents were great because they
put us in a bunch of different sports and whether
that was gymnastic, figure skating, um, I and our brother
played hockey early on. Me yes, I played tennis, played golf,
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but I just didn't have the love for tennis as
I did for golf. And in terms of like for Nellie,
she kind of didn't have a choice at the time.
But yeah, I think it was just it was great
to be able to play other sports and kind of
fall on something that I truly loved. And Nelly, you didn't.
You didn't have an opportunity to do anything else. It
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was going to be golf for you. Um No, I
mean I figure skid, We skied a bit of gymnastics,
but I think golf was definitely. I mean, I started
taking lessons when I was six, But um, I think
golf is something like you can do as an entire family.
When it comes to tennis, like it's just like one
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on one. So I think that's the reason our parents
and we all fell in love with it, because we
could spend so much time together and just you know,
she was five years older, so in that competitiveness, like
she was already so much better than I was when
I was young, and it was just it was something
she could do with my dad. She golfed a lot
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with my dad, and my brother and I hung out together.
Usually I'm gonna put you on the spot and make
you do a power ranking of your family's golf games,
and you know you can. I'll let you bypass you
two because I mean that doesn't really seem very fair
to just do a one A and one B. But
if you could power rank the abilities of the family
members going down from you guys on, I would say,
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my brother is super talented, um, and so is my dad.
They have like this amazing feel I've never seen anything like.
I mean, they could pull off shots that I could
not pull off. So I would say I would say,
seb is definitely a bit more creative, like he'll hit
like a forty yards snap hook into like a Part
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three just for fun, you know, he can like he's
kind of like Bubba in a way. But my dad
has an amazing feel on greens. Like it's just they're
just both so good. My mom doesn't really play too much.
I mean she never really did. She watches you guys.
Family has had this unbelievable success in Australia. Is if
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you guys thought about moving to Australia. I mean it's
everybody basically beside your mom has won something huge in Australia.
Is that correct? Well, my mom's actually won all all
four of them. To be honest, she was the main
reasons because all four of them. But I guess it's
kind of like a family joke. We always say, oh,
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maybe we should just move to Australia. Well, you and
now you were in Australia this year. I mean you
flew out. You flew out early in the year. And
I don't know if a lot of people understand that
the LPGA was basically the first sports organization, you know,
state side that had to deal with events closing your
plan I'm guessing was Australia into that Asian swing. So
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you were out there and then things had to change.
What was it like being basically halfway around the world
play at one event and then your entire schedule was
kind of throwing out the window. Yeah, I was crazy.
It was actually the day I landed in Australia then
announced that they canceled Thailand and Single Part because they
are going to be my two events after Australia, and
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I was like just relaxing in my room after after
I got um back to the airport and I was like, wow,
this is such a long way to go for one week.
So it was crazy, but um, I love Australia, so
any chance I get to go there, I will. Yeah.
That my one issue with Australia. Well, I guess this
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would be layers of issues with Australia is if you
go online, if you're ever bored and you want a
go deep dive, if you look up, all the animals
that are the most poisonous, dangerous or animals that can
kill you of them are in Australia. I mean all
the bad snakes, the crocodiles that are saltwater crocodiles, all
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these things that scare the hell out of me, or
all either in Australia or originated from there. And I
was caddying for a friend of mine in the Australian
Open years ago. I remember we just landed, obviously super
jet lag, really tired, and we were walking to the
course and I am super scared of spider and I
almost walked into this web of a spider. There was
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probably the size of a hefty laptop size. And I
told Irene, who I was catting for, I said, I
don't care if you if you miss a fairway, I'm
not looking for a golf ball this entire week because
those things were brutal. That's my that's my only knock.
That's that's about the only bad thing about the entire place. Yeah,
I mean, thankfully knock on wood I have. I don't
think I've ever seen a snake in Australia. Nice. I mean,
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I'm from Florida, so I see a bunch of snakes
on then there's a bunch of poisonous one. So I
definitely am pretty scared of poisonous animals, but I haven't
actually not seen one. There. We're gonna take a quick
break and be right back. Just this layoff has allowed
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everybody to I mean, reconnect with friends, family, themselves, home,
all the things you mentioned, you guys, our home bodies.
Has this really been the first time you've been able
to kind of step away from the game and how
I mean? And how long? You know, how long has
it been since you could put the clubs away and
forget where the bag was, because you know, you've been
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at this for a long long time. Yeah, I mean it.
This is definitely the first time that I've been able
to be home. Even in junior golf, we traveled so much,
and um, you were always preparing for the next thing,
and then all of a sudden, you don't know when
the next thing is coming. And I think I took
like a month off, maybe even two. I would try
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to play or hold the club in my hands at
least three three days a week just to still figure
out what I was doing. Um, and you know, fill
a golf club in my hand. But it was so weird,
especially being in Palm Beach where everything was shut down
and the golf courses were closed. There was really nowhere
to go and nothing to do. UM, So I just
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started reading a lot of books again. Um, been watching
this book shows, um, and just really trying to find
the positives and you know, being at home and really
enjoying this downtime that I do have. When did you
click back in? When? When did you go from you know,
I'm holding the golf club a couple of days a week.
I'm I'm I'm allowing myself to kind of get away
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from what I do for a living. What point did
you go? Okay, Now I got to get back into
it and get ready for this because you saw at
least dates that were presented where tournaments were going to return. Yeah. Honestly,
like a month ago, Um, like a month, uh maybe
even more, maybe a month going to have I went
over to Brighton and not only to see my family
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but also get a lesson from our coach, David Whalen. Um,
and you know, just start start being like, okay, what
am I doing? Um, and just you know, playing and
practicing a little bit. Um. Yeah, it's been It's been
a very interesting journey, that's for sure. Yeah. And Nelly,
you know you're you're so young. You had so much
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success last year. I mean you're number two in the
world now in the Rolex rankings. I can imagine for
you and and I'm sure a lot of players that
felt like the game was where they wanted it to be,
the break was a bit detrimental. Were you frustrated it
all in terms of not being able to continue to play?
Did you enjoy the break? What was it like for
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you over the last you know, a few months. To
be honest, um, I wasn't really that frustrated. I was
at the beginning of the season. I was testing a
lot of clubs and I wasn't Honestly, I wasn't playing
the best. And over this break, I got to test
some more clubs and I've changed a few things in
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my bag. So I'm really happy with kind of the
break because I kind of got to sit down and
really work on my game a bit, and I think
it was definitely helpful. I wanted to ask about the
Soul Time Cup last year. I'm imagining that there are
moments for the both of you, Jess. I'm sure as
the older sister, there are times where you see your
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younger sister do something incredible or win or fire some
crazy round and you're so proud of her. This has
to be I'm imagining probably a fairly weird experience in
a way, playing with your sister, you know, YouTube being
two of the best Americans in the world at the game.
On that first tea that first day when you guys
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were playing foursomes, what was it like as you were
taking in the moment, taking in the scene and getting
a chance to do this with with one of your
best friends and somebody you grew up with. I mean,
it was incredible. I knew the pressure that was kind
of on our shoulders who we had to play well,
But at the same time, this is something I've been
waiting for us since, you know, I came out on
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tour and played my first Alheim Cup and I looked
at mc nelly back then was like, we need to
do this together. Like I don't know what needs to happen,
but we need to get here together. Um. And we
really enjoyed it. I mean it was It was incredible. Obviously,
it's so different playing over in Europe a Solheim Cup,
just the atmosphere, but our fans showed up and it
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was loud and it was awesome. We definitely definitely enjoyed
our time and uh memories for forever and the fact
that we went undefeated. I mean we came out and
Bertie the first two holes almost every single time, so
it was really cool. And Nelly, were you leaning on
Jess in those moments, knowing she's done this before? I mean,
did you ask questions? I know you have. You know
you got Julie, You've got a lot of vets around,
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but know when you had your sister there that has
played in the Solheim Cup and uh and you're playing
with did you lean on her a bit, especially early
in those matches? Yeah, definitely, I made her hit that
first two shot. No. I mean, I think we had
like a really great plan going in. Jess is such
a great putter, and we kind of figured it out.
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Like I was playing alternate shot, you really have to
have a great strategy. So I think for us having
that strategy to put I think a little bit of
weight off of our shoulders. And we also played that
team event earlier in the year in Michigan, so I
think all of that really helped. And um, it just
made the whole week kind of fly by and we
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have so much fun. An alternate shot, you know, this
is a format that historically in and around golf, both
on the midside and the women's side. I feel like
Americans haven't played the best and it was a format
where you guys both just steamrolled. I mean both matches.
I think you guys won six up. Why alternate shot?
Why did it work so well? And at your next
Solheim Cup will you be pushing to play all the
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formats together? Um? I think it so well because our
games are so similar when you put someone I feel like, personally,
if you put someone like a longer hitter with let's
say a shorter hitter, you're gonna have clubs into holes
that you've never really had. But we know each other
so well and we play such similar game this distance wise,
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that it was just so much easier. Jess. I was
going to ask, what's a part of Nellie's game that
you are envious of? Oh? Her short game percent? I mean, like,
like she says, we had firstle her and we had
such a great game plan. But I always knew that
even if like a mistake was to happen or whatever,
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we had each other's back. And I think the biggest
thing is is we know each other on such a
deeper level that she knows exactly what to always say
to me to either like you know, aunt me up
or kissed me off, and same thing you know for
her if we ever got down, I was right there
and I didn't even let her like I didn't miss
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it be trying to lift her up. And sometimes when
you not really got comfortable with your partner, um, it's
something that that's a little tougher to do. I don't
know if people understand how uncomfortable team golf can be.
You know, you you think you know everybody's game, and
everybody's a professional and they're polished. I mean, nobody's making
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a Solim Cup team. That's not unbelievable at the game,
but it is a bit uncomfortable because you are typically
playing for yourself and that's it so to be out
on the golf course and have to make a put
for somebody else and to have to not you know,
hit an errand t shot and put them in a
horrible position. I mean a lot is on the player's
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shoulders when they're playing with a teammate, and you know,
to your point, it can be a little uncomfortable and
it can be a little alarming if things aren't going
your way. And it must be so nice to be
walking with someone that you know exactly what they're thinking
and what they're gonna do, and especially if somebody like
Nellie with with a great short game, you know, you know,
if you hit a good shot into the green, they're
gonna have a chance of making the put. Yeah. I
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mean Nellie was honestly the one hitting into the into
the green. So my whole thing that week was just
please hit the green, I will make the put. And
I mean, she's such a great ball striker, so it's
always something that I could count on almost. I always
knew that she was going to put me somewhere close,
and you know, she can lean on me for putting
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her in the fairway and being able to put her
in the best position that I possibly could have. So honestly,
it just worked like a dream. Nelly. I was going
to ask about the final round in France last year. I.
I know, we obsess in golf about really low rounds. Um,
I love to pick out the rounds where people play
great rounds in brutal conditions. Where would you rank that
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final round in terms of your best rounds throughout your
young career in France? Yes? Which the one you won? Um? Yeah,
that was that was a lot of fun. I was
actually my first ever l ET event, and just coming
off of Solheim, like it was a week right after
sohim and I was exhausted. I remember flying in and
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then next day I slept to two pm And I've
never done that in the fire life because Solheim just
it just emotionally and physically joined you. So going into
that week, I just told my cady, I was like,
you know what, like I'm here, I just want to
I don't want any expectations, like I just want to
play golf and have some fun, you know, especially after
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that week. So going out and winning that week was
definitely really special. Um, I think it was my first
win in Europe, so it was really cool. So you
won your first l ET event and you won your
first Symmetric Tour event. Is that right Semetia Tour. No,
I won my first Semetro Tour event in two thousands, sixteens. Okay,
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So so you turn pro got on the Semetri Tour
in your first event was the one in uh In, Idaho, right, No,
my thirst, I started the beginning of my Symmetric Tour
in the season opener, so I played the whole season
Metric Tour right and I won. I wasn't doing well
that year, and thankfully I won that event. It was
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like the second biggest purse we had and it really
bumped me up the rankings. And then I just played
really solid going in to the last event and finished
I think a ninth on the money list and gone
my tour cards that way, Jess, I was going to
ask about this week and no fans. I mean, it's
been a thing we've seen on the PGA Tour and
obviously things we're seeing in all the sports of sports
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come back. What do you think will be the biggest
change for you personally as you get set to play,
knowing that you know you're going to kind of be
out there with nobody watching. Yeah, sorry, Charlie's Charlie's any Charlie.
He Uh, it's gonna be really weird. Honestly. I've I've
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been thinking about. I've been talking to a couple of
the guys and it's just it's it's odd, but I
mean there's no stands, there's no you know, it's this
is something I've been doing for almost ten years now
and it's gonna be a really big change. Um. I
love seeing all the kids, the families that come out.
You know, that's how he grow the game of golf
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is to exposure like that and not to kind to
see that it's gonna be it's gonna be sad, But
at the same time, you know, we appreciate the opportunity
to be able to play and hopefully those fans tune
in on TV and send us all the good vibes.
One thing I feel like people don't know about the
fans on the golf course is when holes are tucked
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or you can't see the green, the fans are your
only reaction to if the shots good or not. You know,
so if you hit one up there and they cheer,
you know it's closed. And if they don't, maybe you're shorter,
a little bit long. That's also a helpful thing that
the fans bring to the game. Yeah, and same thing
if you hit a little offline, you know, they're always there.
It's like I said, it's gonna be really odd. Uh.
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Just that immediate feedback from them, like you said, is great.
And even you know, when you're not having a great dairy,
even if you are having a great day, just their
energy and they're there for you. And um, they're trying
to lift you up. It's gonna be weird, but I'm
excited to play and see see what it's like and
hopefully we can and see our fans back out there
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really soon. Yeah. And Jess, you said you talked a
little bit to some PGA tour players about the return
that they've gone through. What was some of their advice
to you as you guys prepped to go, Oh gosh,
Not a whole lot of it was more of just like,
how weird is it to not have fans? No like that.
It's just it's almost you almost have to concentrate a
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little bit more, um, because you know, you le let
your mind wander a bit more. Um. I thought it
was just super weird watching like Justin Thomas and Colin
Mark how in that playoff, Um a couple of weeks ago,
and you know j team made that amazing cut. Usually
that roar would just be so huge. Um, and there's nothing,
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you know, there's just a couple of people of Todd
Clods and forum. Um, it's just it's funny and it's
all weird, but it's the new norm right now. It's
gonna make y'all have to yell louder when puts go in.
I mean that's the key. That's what JT did. You
know you've got to make if the fans won't be
there for this, if they're not allowed in, then you've
got to kind of create your own energy, right. I
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mean I'm not a big you know, getting excited if
a put drops, but maybe that's something that that you're
gonna have to start. Yeah. True. Last thing, Nellie, since uh,
you know you've been out on tour now for for
a few years, what do you feel like is the
biggest misconception about the LPGA tour? Um, I don't know.
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That's a pretty hard question, actually, Um, I don't know.
I guess the reason, I mean why I would say
why the PGA tour is so popular also is because
you know, the hit bombs. They can pull off these
shots like that the lpg A like, let's say players
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can because we're not as strong. But I think, you know,
there's a lot of girls that can really bomb it
out here and we can pull off some sweet shots
to us. I think, like the creativity side of it,
I think, um, people don't think we're as good as
the PGA Tour players, but you know, all these girls
are so good. So I think that is there any
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young player on your radar right now? That is I mean,
you know, the LPGA Tour is so young, and there's
so many young players that are just unbelievable. I mean
teenagers you know that are that are coming up that
can compete and win on the LPGA Tour. Is there
a certain young player that you kind of have circled
as the next person to turn pro and make an
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immediate impact that you've seen the honest, you know, there's
so many young girls out here that can do that. Um.
Actually a lot of the girls that are now rookies
on tour are girls that I graduated high school year
was that were my year. Um, So it's actually really
nice to see them out here now. It's super weird,
but super nice. So I don't really have anyone on
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my radar, but I know, you know, they're so many
great up and coming um girls. Well, guys, I appreciate
the time, Thanks so much for joining me. Good luck
this week I Inverness. I mean, I know you guys
have seen it already, but uh, it is awesome. I mean,
what a what an unbelievable golf course to return to.
You know, I mean, what a what a great start
for the LPGA tour. I know you guys are excited,
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very good. It is much for having us. We're gonna
take a quick break and be right back. A big
thanks to both Jessica and Nelly for joining, and thanks
to everybody for coordinating, coordinating mat as well as Mike.
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Big thanks to Mike for jumping on earlier in the week.
I know he's got a lot on his schedule as
the LPGA returns, and we're excited for for LPGA golf.
I've been missing it. I always love watching it, and
I'm excited to sit down over the weekend and check
that out. I will be playing golf next week. That's
a rarity, well, I mean, to be fair, I'll play
a lot of golf. Um, I rarely play golf when
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it matters, and that is what I'm doing next week.
Got qualified for the AAR Zone Open a few weeks
ago and the Year Zone Open is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
so I will be out playing, competing, hoping to make
the cut. My goal is low amateur seems unlikely, I mean,
but you know what, you gotta set goals and that's
what I'm gonna do. My outlook on the sport. I
feel like since Get a Grip has started and getting
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to hear Max talk a lot about the way he
does things, I feel like I'm in a better place
on the golf course. So I'm gonna go into it
with that being my goal. I'm gonna go try to
be low amateur. I don't know if you get a
prize or a trophy or an invite to Augustin National,
but that is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go, Uh,
I'm gonna go in and try to beat all the
other ams and see how that goes. So that's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
I will send out on Instagram and Twitter a link
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to follow scoring if you're interested in that. If you
want to follow along at thirty six year old has
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I am your host, Shane Bacon. And if you're a
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it's because the LPGA tours back, and I figured why not.
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The LPGA tours awesome and we should get as much
content as possible as they return on Friday. As you're
listening to this with the Drive on Championship if you
missed Mike jan the Commissioner of the LPGA earlier this week,
very interesting conversation to hear about everything that goes into
returning an entire group of sports athletes to their sport
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during COVID and the coronavirus, the pandemic and everything. So
that conversation earlier this week, this conversation with the Court
of Sisters, both of them Nellie and Jessica. As we
get set for the LPGA to kick off, mentioned the
Drive on Championship. If you're interested in coverage, it starts
on Friday, nine am Eastern till eleven thirty am on
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Golf Channel, Saturday four thirty to seven on Golf Channel
and Sunday, they wrap up five to seven and it's out.
It's at Inverness, which is one of the more excellent
golf courses out there. Had a chance to cover the
Junior m last year at Inverness. The Friday Egg has
a great video to take you through Inverness. If you
haven't seen that yet, I'll tweet that out with this
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episode so you get a chance to see that because
Andy and the crew to do an amazing job there
with everything, and it gives you a good look at
a golf course if you've never got a chance to
see it in person. Why it's so great? You know
you hear golf courses. This place is awesome, this place
is spectacular. Well why? I feel like that question sometimes
doesn't get answered, and Andy answers that through through his
video and his flyovers in his drone. So I'll I'll
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make sure to include that with the link to the podcast.
I hope you guys are having an awesome week. Hope
everybody is staying safe. I want to get to the
conversation because rarely do you get two sisters that are
Solheim Cup teammates and also two of the best players
in the world on the same podcast, So here you go.
I hope you enjoy and for the first time both
Court of Sisters in the Clubhouse and Nelly, I want
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to start today is is today your twenty one birthday? No? Second? Actually, okay,
I was so. First of all, I'll never get a math,
And second I was online and shockingly Wikipedia headed incorrect,
and I was wondering why anyone on the planet would
want to celebrate their twenty first birthday by doing this podcast.
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So it's actually better that it's your twenty second. I'm
I'm a lot happier this case, but happy birthday. Um.
Do you guys have anything planned this evening to celebrate? No,
I think we're just gonna I mean, well, we're in Toledo,
so we pretty much have to just quarantine in our
rooms because its first event. Yeah, Jess, I was gonna ask,
what what is protocol for people out there that don't
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know I mean the LPGA back this week. You guys
are playing an unbelievable golf course and it's exciting, But
what is protocol for for the LPGA tour and the
players as you guys get set to go, we're actually
learning it as we go. Um, I know that we're
not allowed to sit in restaurants, and then rooming with
other players is kind of crowned upon. I would say, um,
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and just I mean everyone just keeping their distance. We're
also waiting for um COVID results to come back. We
got tested yesterday. UM, so yeah, I mean it's it's
so weird. It really, it's so weird. DC players. We
went to the driving range today and you like, you
don't even know how to say hi. You haven't seen
them since January, and now you're like, I want to
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hug my friends, but you're like, I don't. I don't
know what to do right now. I bet it was like,
was it I don't know if you guys ever went
to a camp. I know you guys we were in
Bradenton for a while when you were younger, But was
this as close as you've ever been to the go
back to camp and be reunited with friends considering how
long a lay off it's been. Yes, like running on
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the range and then you get close and just have
to wave. I was listening to a JJ Reddick has
a podcast and he was talking about the NBA bubble
and the one thing that he said he wasn't prepared
for is how much downtime there'd be. He said, I've
never had this much downtime in my entire life. I mean,
obviously the last five or six months we've gone through this.
Every day. It's like two pm and you can't believe
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it's only two o'clock. The downtime now is going to
be spent basically in hotel rooms, you know, just hanging
and waiting to go out there in place. So I'm
imagining maybe more time spent practicing and and and on
practice rounds, considering that's kind of the place you can
go do something. I mean, for Nellie and I doesn't
really change a whole lot of what we do. Um,
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we're kind of homebodies and I travel with my dog Charlie,
so I just tried to find a park, which you know,
again is outdoors, so it's completely fine. Um, but we
kind of just like staying in the room and ordering
a newber eats or you know, getting something to go
and just chilling together because then once tournament round start,
it's it's pretty stressful and the more arrested you can get,
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the better. I wanted to ask both of you, but
I'll start with you Nelly, what do you feel like
you spent the most time doing during quarantine that maybe
you either didn't do or you did a little bit of,
but you couldn't believe you've spent this much time doing
it during during basically the last five six, seven months. Um. Well,
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thankfully all the golf courses in my area are actually open,
and I actually moved into my first place, so that
was exciting. But I just got to, I guess, hang
out with family my boyfriend when I came down, so
I got to spend some quality time with him, which
isn't really heard of when we travel so much. So
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it was actually quite nice. Yeah, and Nelly, you I
mean your your boyfriend. He plays in an NHL right,
So I mean you guys are kind of ships past
it in the night. What what are the Is this
the most time you've got a chance to kind of
spend together. Yeah, this is the most time I've ever
Sell was pretty much anyone. It was nice. But he's
he's Gonnat mentioned they're actually playing a game today and
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then they start August one, so he's getting ready. Now
we're both getting ready. It's go time for us. Yeah,
and Jess, I was going to ask you the same
question in terms of things you spent. I know early
on it was hit into a net. You weren't allowed
to kind of go out as much as Nellie was.
What did you do to kind of pass the time
that maybe you hadn't done in the past. Honestly, was
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just home, like settling stuff like the house and you know,
I was all of a sudden finding things that I like,
I need to change this, this needs to get updated.
Like it's just all of a sudden sens settling into
like a normal life. Um. Honestly forgot like where my
staff bag was going on so many more walks with Charlie,
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which I think he was just like okay, human like
I'm I'm good net where we don't need to go
for another walk? Um, But it was it was just
nice to be home for the first time I think
ever so that long. Yeah, and you were hitting balls
into a net. Now, one of the issues with the
practice in the net And now, mind you, you are
a professional golfer that's really really good, but you know
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you can hit into a net and bad habits can
come out and you have no idea what you're doing.
I was wondering, after all, your net practice. The first
ball you hit on a driving range, was it still
good or did you have maybe like a slight pull
or push that you'd basically perfected in the net? No,
I actually was. I would FaceTime or send videos to
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my coach because we're working on like a grip change.
So it worked really well for me because I was
able to work on the group change without seeing where
the ball went. But I actually just picked a spot
in the net that I was trying to aim at,
and I put a folding table underneath me and then
I put a mat on top of that, so I
was actually flat because the graph, I mean, you know,
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the grass, especially in Florida, is not the best to
practice off of. And so I was like, how do
I make this better? And how do I like make
it even underneath my feet? And so I just made
do with whatever we have. Yeah, it's it's adaptability. This
is what we're all having to go through right now.
It's it's it's what you have to do to make
yourself feel normal again. Um, you guys grew up in
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this unbelievably athletic household. I mean I don't I can't
imagine what it was like to be, you know, daughter
of a couple of professional tennis players, and your your
brother so athletic and so good. What was it like
for you guys growing up in a in a family
that was focused so much around sport and was tennis
is sport that was presented to you guys early on
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in hopes that maybe that would be the sport you
guys would follow, Jess, if you don't mind starting, Um, well,
for me, I honestly, our parents were great because they
put us in a bunch of different sports and whether
that was gymnastic, figure skating, um, I and our brother
played hockey early on. Me yes, I played tennis, played golf,
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but I just didn't have the love for tennis as
I did for golf. And in terms of like for Nellie,
she kind of didn't have a choice at the time.
But yeah, I think it was just it was great
to be able to play other sports and kind of
fall on something that I truly loved. And Nelly, you didn't.
You didn't have an opportunity to do anything else. It
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was going to be golf for you. Um No, I
mean I figure skid, We skied a bit of gymnastics,
but I think golf was definitely. I mean, I started
taking lessons when I was six, But um, I think
golf is something like you can do as an entire family.
When it comes to tennis, like it's just like one
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on one. So I think that's the reason our parents
and we all fell in love with it, because we
could spend so much time together and just you know,
she was five years older, so in that competitiveness, like
she was already so much better than I was when
I was young, and it was just it was something
she could do with my dad. She golfed a lot
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with my dad, and my brother and I hung out together.
Usually I'm gonna put you on the spot and make
you do a power ranking of your family's golf games,
and you know you can. I'll let you bypass you
two because I mean that doesn't really seem very fair
to just do a one A and one B. But
if you could power rank the abilities of the family
members going down from you guys on, I would say,
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my brother is super talented, um, and so is my dad.
They have like this amazing feel I've never seen anything like.
I mean, they could pull off shots that I could
not pull off. So I would say I would say,
seb is definitely a bit more creative, like he'll hit
like a forty yards snap hook into like a Part
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three just for fun, you know, he can like he's
kind of like Bubba in a way. But my dad
has an amazing feel on greens. Like it's just they're
just both so good. My mom doesn't really play too much.
I mean she never really did. She watches you guys.
Family has had this unbelievable success in Australia. Is if
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you guys thought about moving to Australia. I mean it's
everybody basically beside your mom has won something huge in Australia.
Is that correct? Well, my mom's actually won all all
four of them. To be honest, she was the main
reasons because all four of them. But I guess it's
kind of like a family joke. We always say, oh,
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maybe we should just move to Australia. Well, you and
now you were in Australia this year. I mean you
flew out. You flew out early in the year. And
I don't know if a lot of people understand that
the LPGA was basically the first sports organization, you know,
state side that had to deal with events closing your
plan I'm guessing was Australia into that Asian swing. So
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you were out there and then things had to change.
What was it like being basically halfway around the world
play at one event and then your entire schedule was
kind of throwing out the window. Yeah, I was crazy.
It was actually the day I landed in Australia then
announced that they canceled Thailand and Single Part because they
are going to be my two events after Australia, and
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I was like just relaxing in my room after after
I got um back to the airport and I was like, wow,
this is such a long way to go for one week.
So it was crazy, but um, I love Australia, so
any chance I get to go there, I will. Yeah.
That my one issue with Australia. Well, I guess this
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would be layers of issues with Australia is if you
go online, if you're ever bored and you want a
go deep dive, if you look up, all the animals
that are the most poisonous, dangerous or animals that can
kill you of them are in Australia. I mean all
the bad snakes, the crocodiles that are saltwater crocodiles, all
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these things that scare the hell out of me, or
all either in Australia or originated from there. And I
was caddying for a friend of mine in the Australian
Open years ago. I remember we just landed, obviously super
jet lag, really tired, and we were walking to the
course and I am super scared of spider and I
almost walked into this web of a spider. There was
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probably the size of a hefty laptop size. And I
told Irene, who I was catting for, I said, I
don't care if you if you miss a fairway, I'm
not looking for a golf ball this entire week because
those things were brutal. That's my that's my only knock.
That's that's about the only bad thing about the entire place. Yeah,
I mean, thankfully knock on wood I have. I don't
think I've ever seen a snake in Australia. Nice. I mean,
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I'm from Florida, so I see a bunch of snakes
on then there's a bunch of poisonous one. So I
definitely am pretty scared of poisonous animals, but I haven't
actually not seen one. There. We're gonna take a quick
break and be right back. Just this layoff has allowed
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everybody to I mean, reconnect with friends, family, themselves, home,
all the things you mentioned, you guys, our home bodies.
Has this really been the first time you've been able
to kind of step away from the game and how
I mean? And how long? You know, how long has
it been since you could put the clubs away and
forget where the bag was, because you know, you've been
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at this for a long long time. Yeah, I mean it.
This is definitely the first time that I've been able
to be home. Even in junior golf, we traveled so much,
and um, you were always preparing for the next thing,
and then all of a sudden, you don't know when
the next thing is coming. And I think I took
like a month off, maybe even two. I would try
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to play or hold the club in my hands at
least three three days a week just to still figure
out what I was doing. Um, and you know, fill
a golf club in my hand. But it was so weird,
especially being in Palm Beach where everything was shut down
and the golf courses were closed. There was really nowhere
to go and nothing to do. UM, So I just
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started reading a lot of books again. Um, been watching
this book shows, um, and just really trying to find
the positives and you know, being at home and really
enjoying this downtime that I do have. When did you
click back in? When? When did you go from you know,
I'm holding the golf club a couple of days a week.
I'm I'm I'm allowing myself to kind of get away
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from what I do for a living. What point did
you go? Okay, Now I got to get back into
it and get ready for this because you saw at
least dates that were presented where tournaments were going to return. Yeah. Honestly,
like a month ago, Um, like a month, uh maybe
even more, maybe a month going to have I went
over to Brighton and not only to see my family
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but also get a lesson from our coach, David Whalen. Um,
and you know, just start start being like, okay, what
am I doing? Um, and just you know, playing and
practicing a little bit. Um. Yeah, it's been It's been
a very interesting journey, that's for sure. Yeah. And Nelly,
you know you're you're so young. You had so much
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success last year. I mean you're number two in the
world now in the Rolex rankings. I can imagine for
you and and I'm sure a lot of players that
felt like the game was where they wanted it to be,
the break was a bit detrimental. Were you frustrated it
all in terms of not being able to continue to play?
Did you enjoy the break? What was it like for
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you over the last you know, a few months. To
be honest, um, I wasn't really that frustrated. I was
at the beginning of the season. I was testing a
lot of clubs and I wasn't Honestly, I wasn't playing
the best. And over this break, I got to test
some more clubs and I've changed a few things in
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my bag. So I'm really happy with kind of the
break because I kind of got to sit down and
really work on my game a bit, and I think
it was definitely helpful. I wanted to ask about the
Soul Time Cup last year. I'm imagining that there are
moments for the both of you, Jess. I'm sure as
the older sister, there are times where you see your
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younger sister do something incredible or win or fire some
crazy round and you're so proud of her. This has
to be I'm imagining probably a fairly weird experience in
a way, playing with your sister, you know, YouTube being
two of the best Americans in the world at the game.
On that first tea that first day when you guys
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were playing foursomes, what was it like as you were
taking in the moment, taking in the scene and getting
a chance to do this with with one of your
best friends and somebody you grew up with. I mean,
it was incredible. I knew the pressure that was kind
of on our shoulders who we had to play well,
But at the same time, this is something I've been
waiting for us since, you know, I came out on
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tour and played my first Alheim Cup and I looked
at mc nelly back then was like, we need to
do this together. Like I don't know what needs to happen,
but we need to get here together. Um. And we
really enjoyed it. I mean it was It was incredible. Obviously,
it's so different playing over in Europe a Solheim Cup,
just the atmosphere, but our fans showed up and it
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was loud and it was awesome. We definitely definitely enjoyed
our time and uh memories for forever and the fact
that we went undefeated. I mean we came out and
Bertie the first two holes almost every single time, so
it was really cool. And Nelly, were you leaning on
Jess in those moments, knowing she's done this before? I mean,
did you ask questions? I know you have. You know
you got Julie, You've got a lot of vets around,
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but know when you had your sister there that has
played in the Solheim Cup and uh and you're playing
with did you lean on her a bit, especially early
in those matches? Yeah, definitely, I made her hit that
first two shot. No. I mean, I think we had
like a really great plan going in. Jess is such
a great putter, and we kind of figured it out.
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Like I was playing alternate shot, you really have to
have a great strategy. So I think for us having
that strategy to put I think a little bit of
weight off of our shoulders. And we also played that
team event earlier in the year in Michigan, so I
think all of that really helped. And um, it just
made the whole week kind of fly by and we
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have so much fun. An alternate shot, you know, this
is a format that historically in and around golf, both
on the midside and the women's side. I feel like
Americans haven't played the best and it was a format
where you guys both just steamrolled. I mean both matches.
I think you guys won six up. Why alternate shot?
Why did it work so well? And at your next
Solheim Cup will you be pushing to play all the
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formats together? Um? I think it so well because our
games are so similar when you put someone I feel like, personally,
if you put someone like a longer hitter with let's
say a shorter hitter, you're gonna have clubs into holes
that you've never really had. But we know each other
so well and we play such similar game this distance wise,
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that it was just so much easier. Jess. I was
going to ask, what's a part of Nellie's game that
you are envious of? Oh? Her short game percent? I mean, like,
like she says, we had firstle her and we had
such a great game plan. But I always knew that
even if like a mistake was to happen or whatever,
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we had each other's back. And I think the biggest
thing is is we know each other on such a
deeper level that she knows exactly what to always say
to me to either like you know, aunt me up
or kissed me off, and same thing you know for
her if we ever got down, I was right there
and I didn't even let her like I didn't miss
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it be trying to lift her up. And sometimes when
you not really got comfortable with your partner, um, it's
something that that's a little tougher to do. I don't
know if people understand how uncomfortable team golf can be.
You know, you you think you know everybody's game, and
everybody's a professional and they're polished. I mean, nobody's making
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a Solim Cup team. That's not unbelievable at the game,
but it is a bit uncomfortable because you are typically
playing for yourself and that's it so to be out
on the golf course and have to make a put
for somebody else and to have to not you know,
hit an errand t shot and put them in a
horrible position. I mean a lot is on the player's
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shoulders when they're playing with a teammate, and you know,
to your point, it can be a little uncomfortable and
it can be a little alarming if things aren't going
your way. And it must be so nice to be
walking with someone that you know exactly what they're thinking
and what they're gonna do, and especially if somebody like
Nellie with with a great short game, you know, you know,
if you hit a good shot into the green, they're
gonna have a chance of making the put. Yeah. I
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mean Nellie was honestly the one hitting into the into
the green. So my whole thing that week was just
please hit the green, I will make the put. And
I mean, she's such a great ball striker, so it's
always something that I could count on almost. I always
knew that she was going to put me somewhere close,
and you know, she can lean on me for putting
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her in the fairway and being able to put her
in the best position that I possibly could have. So honestly,
it just worked like a dream. Nelly. I was going
to ask about the final round in France last year. I.
I know, we obsess in golf about really low rounds. Um,
I love to pick out the rounds where people play
great rounds in brutal conditions. Where would you rank that
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final round in terms of your best rounds throughout your
young career in France? Yes? Which the one you won? Um? Yeah,
that was that was a lot of fun. I was
actually my first ever l ET event, and just coming
off of Solheim, like it was a week right after
sohim and I was exhausted. I remember flying in and
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then next day I slept to two pm And I've
never done that in the fire life because Solheim just
it just emotionally and physically joined you. So going into
that week, I just told my cady, I was like,
you know what, like I'm here, I just want to
I don't want any expectations, like I just want to
play golf and have some fun, you know, especially after
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that week. So going out and winning that week was
definitely really special. Um, I think it was my first
win in Europe, so it was really cool. So you
won your first l ET event and you won your
first Symmetric Tour event. Is that right Semetia Tour. No,
I won my first Semetro Tour event in two thousands, sixteens. Okay,
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So so you turn pro got on the Semetri Tour
in your first event was the one in uh In, Idaho, right, No,
my thirst, I started the beginning of my Symmetric Tour
in the season opener, so I played the whole season
Metric Tour right and I won. I wasn't doing well
that year, and thankfully I won that event. It was
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like the second biggest purse we had and it really
bumped me up the rankings. And then I just played
really solid going in to the last event and finished
I think a ninth on the money list and gone
my tour cards that way, Jess, I was going to
ask about this week and no fans. I mean, it's
been a thing we've seen on the PGA Tour and
obviously things we're seeing in all the sports of sports
(24:15):
come back. What do you think will be the biggest
change for you personally as you get set to play,
knowing that you know you're going to kind of be
out there with nobody watching. Yeah, sorry, Charlie's Charlie's any Charlie.
He Uh, it's gonna be really weird. Honestly. I've I've
(24:36):
been thinking about. I've been talking to a couple of
the guys and it's just it's it's odd, but I
mean there's no stands, there's no you know, it's this
is something I've been doing for almost ten years now
and it's gonna be a really big change. Um. I
love seeing all the kids, the families that come out.
You know, that's how he grow the game of golf
(24:57):
is to exposure like that and not to kind to
see that it's gonna be it's gonna be sad, But
at the same time, you know, we appreciate the opportunity
to be able to play and hopefully those fans tune
in on TV and send us all the good vibes.
One thing I feel like people don't know about the
fans on the golf course is when holes are tucked
(25:18):
or you can't see the green, the fans are your
only reaction to if the shots good or not. You know,
so if you hit one up there and they cheer,
you know it's closed. And if they don't, maybe you're shorter,
a little bit long. That's also a helpful thing that
the fans bring to the game. Yeah, and same thing
if you hit a little offline, you know, they're always there.
It's like I said, it's gonna be really odd. Uh.
(25:41):
Just that immediate feedback from them, like you said, is great.
And even you know, when you're not having a great dairy,
even if you are having a great day, just their
energy and they're there for you. And um, they're trying
to lift you up. It's gonna be weird, but I'm
excited to play and see see what it's like and
hopefully we can and see our fans back out there
(26:01):
really soon. Yeah. And Jess, you said you talked a
little bit to some PGA tour players about the return
that they've gone through. What was some of their advice
to you as you guys prepped to go, Oh gosh,
Not a whole lot of it was more of just like,
how weird is it to not have fans? No like that.
It's just it's almost you almost have to concentrate a
(26:23):
little bit more, um, because you know, you le let
your mind wander a bit more. Um. I thought it
was just super weird watching like Justin Thomas and Colin
Mark how in that playoff, Um a couple of weeks ago,
and you know j team made that amazing cut. Usually
that roar would just be so huge. Um, and there's nothing,
(26:45):
you know, there's just a couple of people of Todd
Clods and forum. Um, it's just it's funny and it's
all weird, but it's the new norm right now. It's
gonna make y'all have to yell louder when puts go in.
I mean that's the key. That's what JT did. You
know you've got to make if the fans won't be
there for this, if they're not allowed in, then you've
got to kind of create your own energy, right. I
(27:07):
mean I'm not a big you know, getting excited if
a put drops, but maybe that's something that that you're
gonna have to start. Yeah. True. Last thing, Nellie, since uh,
you know you've been out on tour now for for
a few years, what do you feel like is the
biggest misconception about the LPGA tour? Um, I don't know.
(27:29):
That's a pretty hard question, actually, Um, I don't know.
I guess the reason, I mean why I would say
why the PGA tour is so popular also is because
you know, the hit bombs. They can pull off these
shots like that the lpg A like, let's say players
(27:51):
can because we're not as strong. But I think, you know,
there's a lot of girls that can really bomb it
out here and we can pull off some sweet shots
to us. I think, like the creativity side of it,
I think, um, people don't think we're as good as
the PGA Tour players, but you know, all these girls
are so good. So I think that is there any
(28:12):
young player on your radar right now? That is I mean,
you know, the LPGA Tour is so young, and there's
so many young players that are just unbelievable. I mean
teenagers you know that are that are coming up that
can compete and win on the LPGA Tour. Is there
a certain young player that you kind of have circled
as the next person to turn pro and make an
(28:34):
immediate impact that you've seen the honest, you know, there's
so many young girls out here that can do that. Um.
Actually a lot of the girls that are now rookies
on tour are girls that I graduated high school year
was that were my year. Um, So it's actually really
nice to see them out here now. It's super weird,
but super nice. So I don't really have anyone on
(28:58):
my radar, but I know, you know, they're so many
great up and coming um girls. Well, guys, I appreciate
the time, Thanks so much for joining me. Good luck
this week I Inverness. I mean, I know you guys
have seen it already, but uh, it is awesome. I mean,
what a what an unbelievable golf course to return to.
You know, I mean, what a what a great start
for the LPGA tour. I know you guys are excited,
(29:18):
very good. It is much for having us. We're gonna
take a quick break and be right back. A big
thanks to both Jessica and Nelly for joining, and thanks
to everybody for coordinating, coordinating mat as well as Mike.
(29:40):
Big thanks to Mike for jumping on earlier in the week.
I know he's got a lot on his schedule as
the LPGA returns, and we're excited for for LPGA golf.
I've been missing it. I always love watching it, and
I'm excited to sit down over the weekend and check
that out. I will be playing golf next week. That's
a rarity, well, I mean, to be fair, I'll play
a lot of golf. Um, I rarely play golf when
(30:01):
it matters, and that is what I'm doing next week.
Got qualified for the AAR Zone Open a few weeks
ago and the Year Zone Open is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
so I will be out playing, competing, hoping to make
the cut. My goal is low amateur seems unlikely, I mean,
but you know what, you gotta set goals and that's
what I'm gonna do. My outlook on the sport. I
feel like since Get a Grip has started and getting
(30:22):
to hear Max talk a lot about the way he
does things, I feel like I'm in a better place
on the golf course. So I'm gonna go into it
with that being my goal. I'm gonna go try to
be low amateur. I don't know if you get a
prize or a trophy or an invite to Augustin National,
but that is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go, Uh,
I'm gonna go in and try to beat all the
other ams and see how that goes. So that's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
I will send out on Instagram and Twitter a link
(30:43):
to follow scoring if you're interested in that. If you
want to follow along at thirty six year old has
been that's still trying to get it done, that will
be uh. That will be something I'll send out on
Twitter and Instagram at Shane Bacon if you want to
follow along, If you like the podcast, if you're a fan,
do me a favor. Follow at the Club Else pod
on Twitter and Instagram, send out links pictures. That's where
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you can get stickers, coozies, things like that. If you've
always wanted them, just send in a note there. But
you've got to be following. And that is it for
this week. Enjoy the LPGA will be back next week.
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