January 3, 2017 • 29 mins
Happy New Year from the Clubhouse Pod. This week Shane welcomes on one of the most interesting pros on tour: Bryson DeChambeau. DeChambeau weighs in on the success he's had very early in his career, his unique approach to the physics of golf and why he takes such an unconventional approach to so many aspects of the game, and the future of his putting and why he is taking the "face-on" approach. DeChambeau hopes to change the way people think of conventional golf and explains it all in a great interview with Shane!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host,
Shane Bacon. A happy New Year, of course to everybody.
Hope you had a great two thousand sixteen, closed two
thousand and sixteen, Excited for two thousand seventeen, and I
hope you made a golf resolution. I of course made
the same golf resolution and make every single year. That
is to win the Masters and rise to number one
in the world. That hasn't happened for thirty two years.
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I'm thinking your thirty three, it may happen. Just gotta
get in. I just gotta get the invite. That's really
all I need. But really my main goal every year
is trying to make all on one. Of course, I
famously I've never made a hole in one. I probably
never will make all on one. Abody my family has
ever made a hole in one. But that would be fun.
I have something fun for people out there if I
ever do that. Followers of the podcast and of social
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media and all that, but a fun podcast today. Bryson
de Shambo on the pod talk to him late last week.
UM got some great insight to his two thousand seventeen
what he plans to do this year his goals. Talked
a lot about his approach to game and a lot
of his quirky stuff he does. Frankly, I mean he
does a lot of things different, but he does those
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things differently because he thinks it's the it's the best
chance for him to go low and shoot a score.
So very interesting conversation. Very happy to have Bryson on
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guys have a great week. We're gonna have another podcast
on Thursday, previewing not just this week but a lot
of our preview picks and predictions. I'm gonna have Cal
Porter from CBS on, but right now Bryson to Shambo
on the club us. We now welcome into the clubhouse
somebody I've been really excited to have on Bryson D.
Shambo of course a historic amateur career. I had a fine,
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fine run at the Masters this year and of course
since turning pro one a web dot Com event this
year at the d AP Championship in September. Got a
chance to tee it up with Lexi Thompson recently at
the Franklin Templeton shoot. Ut Bryson, I appreciate you taking
some time with us here at the clubhouse. Hey, thank
you very much. A yeah, and uh and I ask
everybody that plays golf this question to get it going
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and and just so people know, it's right around six
thirty five thirty year time, Bryson. What have you had
to eat today? Oh? Man? Uh, well, I had a
let's the sponsor to Jag and Cheddar still think from
Starbucks this morning. Then um yeah, I had some try
to a lunch and then uh, I had a couple
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of proteins bar stuff and right here about the dinner
so not. Well, you know, you had a great time.
I'm with Lexi and Naples. We were down there covering
that event, a fun event. What have you been doing that?
That was early December. What have you been doing since then?
As you prep for two thousand seventeen. Yeah, I'm a
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I'm a grinder. I pretty much in Texas hard as
I can, for as long as I can, every single day.
You know, I don't think very many days off about
as Christmas Eve. Practicing that's what I love to do. It's, uh,
it's not only my job, but it's something I enjoy doing.
I trained myself to do it for uh Ever, since
I was growing up, for my teenage years, I was
one of the go out the golf course and always
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pushed myself, well what do you do away? I mean,
have you gone and saw rogue one? I mean? Is
there stuff you do outside of the game that that
keeps you interested? No? So the new newest thing that
I'm doing is actually working out. That's also enjoyable for me.
He's seen uh my body functions and groom, so that's
enjoyable to me. What have you What are you doing?
What are you doing workout wise? Uh? Doing some pretty
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intense personal training stuff. Uh, not really gonna get too
many secrets out. I don't like doing that. Yeah, I understand,
I understand you may you may see a different uh
Bryson coming this year, and don't arm wrestle you. It's
what you're saying. Well, I mentioned your amateur success to start.
I mean, of course the web win, played really well
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at Harvard Town. I had that run at Augusta. I
just wanted to get your grade for your first say,
I guess what eight nine months of playing professional golf,
what would you grade two thousand sixteen. Yeah, I mean
it was a it was a great year. I one
on one on tour or the web dot Com Tour,
which is fantastic. One on the pc A Tour, but
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that's gonna come shortly. Uh so I would have graded
in an A. You know, I have been a slow
him at the Master's n C Double A champ well
how the previous year. But still for my my rookie
year of playing the match's playing at Arnold Falmer and
doing pretty well there. I graded today. I did a
pretty good job. And I've always wondered this, you know,
because I I didn't make it professionally. My my professional
career was very very short and I did not make
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very much money, just so you wanted to know. Um,
but you know you were you were twenty two at
the time. You just played Augusta. You get into the
RBC and you finished tie for fourth. You have this
great run. I mean you're in the booth with with
Jim nance And and Faldo talking about your week. And
on Monday morning you get a direct deposit for for
six figures after being an amateur the week before? How
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many times did you refresh your bank account app on
your phone looking at that knowing it's real. Well, the
funny thing is that my wealth devisers didn't give me
the password of the coach for that account. So but
it's a good thing that that happened to because that
wouldn't have been wouldn't have been got any other way. Uh.
That's protecting me and doing the right things with the money. Yeah,
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And you made news, of course, And I don't want
to talk as much about your Uh you know, Franklin
Templeton putting you of course brought side settle out and
you knew how to ask a lot about it. We
asked you a lot about it at Fox. Yeah, no, listen,
that's not that's not the focus. Um. What I did
want to ask you is when you bring in these
types of things, you know what I mean? You mess
around with a lot of different stuff. You've got a
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lot of parts of your golf game that I think
people would maybe say is very different than maybe your
average professional golfer. How much um noise on the outside
do you weigh before you bring something in or is
that not really a factor at all? Well, I let
the results speak for themselves, and I try and mainly
focus on the scientific data behind it that we produced.
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And from the data that we produced with the testing
conventional puttering compared to based on finding, I saw a
half degree dispergent difference or veterans uh if you want
to say that. In the data it went from like
uncommercial putting point forward degrees closed the point um one
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degrees open or something like that. I don't know, point
four degrees open, uh uh, point five degrees less on
on both fives, So meaning it was point to and
then point one degree is open, so that's point five
degrees this version increase um they're on the face control.
So all that means is that it was better face control.
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And when we saw that, I said, why why am
I not using this If it's already showing in data here,
It's got to produce better results on the golf course
under pressure, you know. But the difference is that we
didn't have any results from competition. We had to test
it at some point in time, you know. And this
has not been a short journey for me. It wasn't
a short journey for me and producing the one like
Guyns either. You know. This is thoughtful, uh, dedicated, deliberate
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work that we're doing and making sure this is the
right process to go through. We test and do a
lot of things. Like I said, I don't sleep because
of this stuff. I love working on this stuff. I
love trying to make it a lot more enjoyable for
the game for people out there. I really want to
do that. Uh. And and as I look back on it,
this is a long, hard thought discussion with my coach
of is this actually better? You know? And there were
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times where I doubted it. There were times where I
fully believed it. Now I fully believe it from the data,
from the performance aspect of it. Because it's one thing
to say, look, it's way better on face control in
a controlled environment, but then you got wind out there.
You've got different factors, a lot going on out there.
But it was nice to see some results and and
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actually was only about a week of practicing that style
where I knew is a better face control. We test this, okay,
this is a go. With only a week of practice,
I was able to perform like a tour during playing
from possibly better on the strokes, gain perspective of it,
from putting that I've ever had on tour. So that
was a huge positive look too. Uh, what we're trying
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to do for the future of the game, I think personally,
you know, this could be potentially bigger than one wy.
We have no idea. But what I do know as
of right now is that it's working for me and
I want to put better. Um you know, it's no,
it's no personal thing where I want to gain attention
from it. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm
just trying to more buttons than I believe this is
a better way to do it, right. I mean, you
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know people would put between their legs if if if
it if it helped them on the strokes gain I mean,
you know that's something golfers have always done. I just think,
you know, with with some of the stuff you you've
brought in as a twenty three year old, you know,
people have as you you said it, I mean people
have sometimes said, you know, is this gimmicky? Is this whatever?
And I mean you crunch numbers all the time, looking
at the math to try to make golf as as
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easy as possible, correct absolutely and efficient as possible, as
I like to say, you know, the scientists are all
about efficiency, making sure that they're figuring out in the
right way, that they create hypothesis hypotheses and then they
go and and do research on and they come to conclusions.
And that's what we do. That's what I've done my
whole life. Uh, that's the easiest way to go about
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figuring something out. And and we've figured out that it
is a little bit better of a way to put
um and I think as we go down the road, Well,
first off, let's think about it from a hypothetical sense.
What do pool players do? They look based on to
their target, they stroke it down the line right, they
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make a motion that's in front of them. Not to
decide if you're trying to put If you're trying to
play pool like you putt it, who wouldn't really work
out the world because it's a precision precision sports and
the same thing with putting this putting the aspect of
this game. The game of golf is all about precisions
and putting right, and so it's the same thing as cool.
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So why wouldn't we try and do the same EXACTI thing.
It's easier to read a putt from that that perspect
of it, that's the way we read put But it's
also easier to see how the ball is traveling across
the surface, so you can ingrain what you've been seeing
and be and you're able to read puts better because
of it. Um that's only one aspect and you're keeping
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the face swear of the plane. I mean, there's there's
a multitude of things of why I believe it's going
to be the future of the game. Um. Now, it's
just making sure that we're building the funders within the
parameters of the U s G and we want to
respect that. We want to absolutely go to the process
and make sure that all is good there. We don't
want any headaches there. We want to make sure that
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they're okay with it and and that we are are
protecting the games as well. You know what it brings
to mind to me And I actually for people out
there that listen to this podcast, I actually do do
homework at times. I was. I really listened to this
Malcolm Gladwell podcast, his revisionist history podcast, and it was
about Will Chamberlain and Rick Berry and um, I mean,
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for lack of a better turn, that the granny free
throw shot. And you know, Rick Berry talked about working
with Shaquille O'Neil and Shack said, you know this makes
me feel silly. You know, I mean, shooting in your
career free throw is also fairly silly. It's just funny
that it's almost you know, it's macho is um takes
over sometimes for athletes and instead of being efficient, they
go they go with the route that everybody else goes,
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all right, and it's a little bit of pride. And
it's been tough for me. The one like Irons prepared
me for based on thing. I can tell you that
I would not be able to handle the criticism. And
then they saying if it wasn't for the one length,
because it wasn't very It wasn't dramatically different. It didn't
look crazy in my bag, you know, when I was
setting up that didn't look that different. But this is
a completely different style of putting it. It It looks completely
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different at least, And so the criticism I know is
going to be even heavier. And when I go to
sell you, when I go to and play for the
rest of my life this way. But I know that
the one length Irons have prepared me for this moment
in time. But whatever reason that it is, definitely got
sent for for him to say, Look, I'm preparing you
for for the rest of your life. It's been doing this,
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you know, because I think that this potentially could be
again bigger than one length. You never know. But at
this point in time, I'm trying to perform at my
absolute best within the roles and do my absolute best
to win tournaments up there. You you mentioned criticism. Do
do you read stuff? I mean, do you do you
look at replies on Twitter? Do you do you pay
attention to that kind of stuff? So absolutely, but it
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does not affect me. I love hearing what people say
because I want to have an argument, not arguments, I
want to have um things to stay back to them.
Uh as a counter argument today, you know they're gonna
they say and say, well, this, this and this and this.
So I want to be prepared so that when I
get out on on tour, when the media comes around,
when everybody's talking about it, only want to be prepared.
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It's much as possible, so I can say the right
things at the right times, not be blindsided by an
idea or a thought. Well, Bubba wants Bubba Watson once said,
and I think it's kind of the way he's always
lived golf. He said, if I have a swing, I
have a shot. Do you have a certain mantra that
you feel like you live by in golf? I mean
you did say something about, you know, efficiency and in
trying to be the most efficient golfer possible. Yeah, there's
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a few things that come to mind. On one of
them is is mechanics produced, feel reproduces or or appropriate
reception as I like to say reproduces, so either or
feeling appropriates after the kind of saying, that's that's one
of them. Let today's garbage be better than yesterday's Like that,
I can go, I can go on and on with
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these different little things. Um, you know, but I think
the biggest thing is that don't be afraid to try
new things. That's exactly what the forefathers of our country did.
Thomas that is, and Isaac Newton and all these great
scientific philosophers have done in their life. They've pushed the envelope.
They've done things to make our world better. We would
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not be to be here without Thomas that isn't so
these are the guys that were leaders, that were not
afraid to fail. And and I think, as it's just
a short little note, is that don't be afraid to fail.
That's the possibly the greatest learning experience you can get
is to learn how to be okay with failing. Won't
learn the most from Yeah, and you've done You've done
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one length. I mean your your golf swing, I would say,
is extremely efficient, but definitely different as well. Now you've
you've messed around a little bit with side saddle. Is
there an and again, I know you don't like to
reveal stuff, which I totally understand, but is there other
things that could come down the opera at times that
would look a little bit different? Yeah? Absolutely, I think
I think there there may be a potential for that
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we've kind of gone through the whole bag now, but uh,
there's one one last aspect that I'm willing to try
and go for, uh and and and have to do
with some of the longer clubs. If you know what
I mean, Does this mean you're gonna have like twelve
head covers in your golf bag? No no, no, no, no,
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no no no. I'm just talking about the driver in
the free way. That's always been an interest of mine,
just trying to somehow figure out a way to get
those in the same length as well, because why not
have one swing for every single shot? If you figure out,
if you figure out how to be more effective with
a driver, will you text me because that is always
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been kind of my achilles heal. I really like that
you can. I won't tell anybody. I won't scoop you.
I promise I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's
more practice that's right, less of this and more out
on the range. You know that there was I think
there was. I think Davis Love comes to mind, but
there was somebody I remember hearing one time. Um said
he was a better chip or one handed, but he
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would not come out and do it in competition because,
as you mentioned, he was a bit afraid of what
it looked like. So I do think that's a smart
way of going about it, especially you know, as young
as you are and obviously with a ton of talent.
And I don't want to bring up a negative that
that happened you in the last year, but I did
want to talk a little bit about the Masters. You
were playing excellent golf for thirty five holes you made
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I would say a poor swing. I mean, as long
as you don't mind me saying it was a bit
of a poor swing on a teen. Do you feeling yeah?
Do you do you feel like that was a little nerves?
Was it just just a bad swing at the wrong time?
And have you learned a little bit from that experience? Absolutely?
I think that it was a fantastic learning experience for myself.
And and like I said back then, I'm learning at
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every every single moment. That's that's what I was trying
to do, and unfortunately I made a bad swing. Uh
potentially could have been caused by a little bit of nerves,
as I was right right there next to the leads
and three five old than matters. Uh, that's definitely Uh.
Look that hasn't happened in a long time. So it
was definitely a moment that that I tried to be
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as prepared as possible, uh for, But unfortunately that's something
that you really can't train for and you just gotta
be through it and you gotta somehow muster it up
to be able to do it, and I unfortunately didn't.
But I learned a lot. I learned that I can
play with the best, I can perform with the best,
and I know that I can be the best if
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I work hard enough. You know, I've I've definitely seen
that light, especially going and finishing fifteen in the US Open,
qualifying for the U s A requalifying for the US Open,
and then and then playing as well as I did.
You know, I definitely learned from that as well. There
it's just a reconfirmed the statement that I can be
the best. I can win a major. I can do
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those things. Um, you know, my body doesn't allow me
to do it, but unfortunately it is what it is.
I made a bad swing and and pulled a little
left and caught the holly bushes on eighteen just funny
enough named Polly there, I guess, so you know it was.
It was just it's just the way it happened, and
and uh, it was a fun time. I can tell
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you that, Uh, there was no better experience in the
world than being on the first tea and hitting that
first tea shot right down the middle and looking at
my parents after I did it, and it was it was.
It was a cool moment and experience. I'll never forget.
What was that. The most nervous you've ever been in golf?
I would say, I try, and I try and take
nerves out of it. To be honest with you, I
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try and not have nerves. Nerves are only personally. I
think nerves are a hindrance if you're a performance because
when you're in the zone, and I've been I've been
in it a couple of times, you really aren't nervous.
It's more of just executing and doing the job at hand.
You don't have time to feel nerves. It's just an
absolute it's an absolute focus on completing the task at hand,
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And so I try and get into that state more
often than not. You know, I think that there's different
people that would say the nerves help them get into
a state, into that state of mind. I don't know
how that really works. But when I performed my best,
I just know that I'm going to do something. It's
not that I'm nervous and then I somehow I'll get
into the zone. It's more of I just focus on
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executing the shot at a really high level, and my
brain functions at a really high level, and that's what
allows me to say, Look, there's nothing else that's going
to happen except this shot, and it's going to happen.
I'm gonna make the shot. I'm gonna hit the shot,
make the spot, whatever it is. And that's that's what
the zone is to me. And funny enough, that's that's
if I can get into that state on Thursday all
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the way through through Sunday, it's you know, it's watch out.
But I haven't been able to do that once, um,
and I'm training myself to to be able to do that.
That's a long story, though, I don't I don't know
if there's been a ton of people that have been
able to stay in it from Thursday to Sunday evening.
I you know, I think about Stinson at Troon, or
think about Tiger at Pebble, But you know, I mean,
it's it's kind of a it's a it's a it's
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a high, you know thing to think about it when
you when you when you put yourself out there in
that position, when when you know, speaking of somebody that
was in the zone at least for I don't know
what sixty holes. I mean Jordan's speed. You played with
him for two days. When you play with these guys, granted,
I mean, yell, are about the same age, if not
the same age? Do do you do you take notes
from him? Do you do you look at him and
see him a guy that's already been on the tour
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for a few years or are you just kind of
your own your own specimen? Yeah? So origin you know,
when I just got out there and I was playing
my first couple of events, yeah, I definitely looked around
and saw people were doing and how they were acting,
how they're responding and what they were doing and everything
like that. But over time playing with Jordan, it was
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like I just wanted to beat him, But honestly I
wanted to play better than him. I to execute every
shot better than him and make make more fuss to him,
although I didn't the Masters, But that's honestly what I
wanted to do. It just became another competitor. It's funny.
It's just like being back in junior days playing against
another guy and trying to beat him, beat the the
guy that was the best on the tour at that
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time when that time, and that's honestly all it becomes.
It's just a different level of it, obviously. I mean, yeah,
at the end of the day, it's I mean, as
I've always said about golf, at the end of the day,
it's it's hitting golf shots. If it's at Augusta National
or the local Muni. If you shoot sixty five and
they shoot sixty six, it doesn't matter who's who you're
playing against. Yeah, And I think another little cool catch
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phrases is that what is golf. It's repetition. That's all
golf is. It's being able to reproduce your motions. And
that's honestly all golf is. If you can reproduce your motion,
that's it. That's the game of golf. I'm telling you
right there, Well, if I was gonna m if I
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was gonna ask you to, if I was going to
ask you to name of off course that you think
defines every major Championship, So you know you could you
can name ok, of course Oakman for the US Open.
But a golf course that you feel like defines the
elements of all the majors. I know you're a big
golf historian. Which golf course has come to mind when
you think of the other three, of course, outside of
a gust of the masters. Yeah, that's a tough question
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because each has its own unique features, right, but one
course that I would say, boy, that's uh, that's not
an easy one. I can tell you that because Augusta's
the Gusta, all right, and he got US Open, which
is really really, really really hard. And then you have
the British Open, which is Links and the p G
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a Um which is which is on a very very
difficult golf course every year. It's on on more of
an American golf course. Uh. You know, that's a tough question.
I would say, personally, Uh Shinnecock asked to be Foreman
defined divines at all? I would say, I've never played
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there before. When what I've seen, uh, you know, you've
got greens that are ridiculously fast, like like I got.
It's more of a windy golf course. It's more of
British Open kind of style of look, and we've got
tight fairways as well with them the longer rough that's
that's one that I would say is I would actually stay. Honestly,
I just thought about it. It is Aaron Hills. Aaron
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Hills next year is going is going to be the
epitome of every major championship I think personally. Have you
got a chance to play it? Yeah, well yeah, I
won there in college. Okay, there you go. That's why
I said, yeah, then I you're good. And then I
played uh, let do with Samlar there back in two thousand,
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Oh no, no, Tleven. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's
I got a chance to play thirty six there in September,
and it's very different, I think than even what you
see in the pictures and what you expect. It's really long.
I mean it's brutally long from the back teas I
played at one day and and I nearly had to
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get carried in by the end of the round. But
you know, it's it's just a very you know, with wind,
it's British Openy. Without wind, it can be, you know,
feel like a PGA championship if you can bind a
couple of the elements and it's dried out, it will
really really feel like a US open. I think, uh,
I think, I think people are really gonna like it.
I mean, I I know you, like you said, you
played it a few times. I'm sure you probably agree.
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All Right, I got some I got some quick hitters
for you. You can't name yourself, but I was interested.
Who do you think is the smartest player out on
the PGA tour? Uh? I would say Hendrick Stenson by
far and well and Jason's Day. Those two are right there.
Interesting favorite golf course in the world A cypress point.
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There's no question if you weren't a professional golfer, you'd
be and I'm just kidding, would be a I probably
I wasn't profession Can I say I I could work
in the game of golf. I mean you can take
the cop out answer and say something golfy. That's fine, Okay, okay, okay,
So i'd be a BIOMECHANISTMS in the game of golf.
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I'd be doing research and figure out in the most
efficient functional swing points. Okay, you're guilty, pleasure. You've mentioned
you're a golf nut, and now you're working out. You
gotta have a guilty pleasure in there. Chocolate this bad man,
it is bad. I love it. See s Candy board
o bar. It's the California thing. He's candy. It's awesome.
What song do you think has the most plays ever
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on your cell phone? Oh? For sure cold Play. Don't
Let It Break Your Heart? Nice? You know the answer.
I'm really impressed right now. I was trying to think
when you were answering if I had an answer, I
think mine would be the General by Dispatch. But yeah,
there you go. You shoot it out. I guess it
pumps up in your head. Okay, And I asked people
this the last question. I'm gonna ask you this last
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question that I ask you one more question about seventeen.
But I wanted to ask this in the quickitter. Who's
the most famous person you've ever asked for their autograph? Oh? Well, uh,
I've asked the autograph. I mean I've gotten a lot
of signatures. Um, isn't a raffle or is a kid?
I mean if you were a kid and you went
to a golf tournament, you know you asked Tiger, you know,
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Jack or somebody like that. Sure, I'm not even thinking
Arnold Palmer by far, by far, how old were you? Oh,
literally this past year I think met him, uh you
know last year, well the Walker Cup actually so year
and a half ago. So that was by far the
coolest moment for me, being able to walk up to
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him and ask for his autograph and he signed it
on well at the Arnold Palmer he actually signed it
on my yardage book and so that's kept away and
locked and shape. So that was pretty cool for the
last time he was ever at Well, I wanted to
ask you just I know you you've won, you know,
a professional event now on the web of course, you
had an incredible amateur career. I mean, you know you're
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in this you know list of of Ryan Moore and
Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods and Phil Michoelson and much um.
You've you've got your kind of run through the pros
in sixteen. Now it's two thousand seventeen, and I was
just gonna ask, what is a successful year in two
thousand seventeen? And if you have goals, what are those
goals for the whole rest of the twelve months. Yeah,
I mean they're they're pretty lofty. Um, I'm trying not
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to set too many goals. I have an idea of
what I want to do. Um. You know, I definitely
want to win on tour, but I also want to
win a major. I know my game is good enough
if I can get back into the majors, which I
believe I can here pretty quickly. Uh, I think I
can do that. I think I can play pretty well
in a couple of them. And and and how how
many pro golfers have come up to you, even just
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at the Franklin Temple and attempted to roll a putt
side saddle face on? You gotta start saying sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
I apologize face on. That's my bad. I'm not saying
side saddle anymore. You're good, It's all good. So side
saddle is more like you're looking from the side and
you're putting from the side. Face on is where you're
facing over the law. It UM, just a kind of
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define it a little bit. But asked me the question,
you guys totally blank. How many guys didn't you guys
come up to you and try to do it? Yeah,
well it was. It was funny. Justin Thomas the first
time I pulled it out, he says, how do you
hit a forty footer? Dude? How do you do that?
And I knocked him all over and boom, knocked it
right up stiff. You know what, he goes up. I
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guess again to walk away. So that was a funny
little story. But I think pretty much, uh, there was
at least five or six guys that came up and
tried it, just for messing around. The Future was trying
a little bit. It was fun watching and he got
to hanging it really quickly. Pretty well. He's so he's
so good at all that stuff. I mean, he's just
he's one of those hand up coordinated, gifted guys. You know,
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his hands have been trained pretty darn well. He's a
great player and a great person too, and love love
talking to him. Yeah, he's a he's a great duvite.
He came in and chatted with us like y'all did
at the franklintin w And you guys are all great.
It's a fun event, Bryce, and I really appreciate it.
Good luck in too, iusand seventeen. I'm sure I'll see
you out there. And I'm excited. I'm excited for the
for the year, and um for you to bring out
some of this stuff that's gonna bring the conversation around
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in golf. I think it's I think it's good for
the game. Well, thank you. I appreciated it's an R
being on the show and thanks for all you do.
Well that'll do it for this Clubhouse Podcast. Many thanks
to Bryson for coming on. A very interesting kid, bright future.
I'm excited to see what happens with him. Many thanks
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Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host,
Shane Bacon. A happy New Year, of course to everybody.
Hope you had a great two thousand sixteen, closed two
thousand and sixteen, Excited for two thousand seventeen, and I
hope you made a golf resolution. I of course made
the same golf resolution and make every single year. That
is to win the Masters and rise to number one
in the world. That hasn't happened for thirty two years.
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I'm thinking your thirty three, it may happen. Just gotta
get in. I just gotta get the invite. That's really
all I need. But really my main goal every year
is trying to make all on one. Of course, I
famously I've never made a hole in one. I probably
never will make all on one. Abody my family has
ever made a hole in one. But that would be fun.
I have something fun for people out there if I
ever do that. Followers of the podcast and of social
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media and all that, but a fun podcast today. Bryson
de Shambo on the pod talk to him late last week.
UM got some great insight to his two thousand seventeen
what he plans to do this year his goals. Talked
a lot about his approach to game and a lot
of his quirky stuff he does. Frankly, I mean he
does a lot of things different, but he does those
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things differently because he thinks it's the it's the best
chance for him to go low and shoot a score.
So very interesting conversation. Very happy to have Bryson on
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guys have a great week. We're gonna have another podcast
on Thursday, previewing not just this week but a lot
of our preview picks and predictions. I'm gonna have Cal
Porter from CBS on, but right now Bryson to Shambo
on the club us. We now welcome into the clubhouse
somebody I've been really excited to have on Bryson D.
Shambo of course a historic amateur career. I had a fine,
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fine run at the Masters this year and of course
since turning pro one a web dot Com event this
year at the d AP Championship in September. Got a
chance to tee it up with Lexi Thompson recently at
the Franklin Templeton shoot. Ut Bryson, I appreciate you taking
some time with us here at the clubhouse. Hey, thank
you very much. A yeah, and uh and I ask
everybody that plays golf this question to get it going
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and and just so people know, it's right around six
thirty five thirty year time, Bryson. What have you had
to eat today? Oh? Man? Uh, well, I had a
let's the sponsor to Jag and Cheddar still think from
Starbucks this morning. Then um yeah, I had some try
to a lunch and then uh, I had a couple
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of proteins bar stuff and right here about the dinner
so not. Well, you know, you had a great time.
I'm with Lexi and Naples. We were down there covering
that event, a fun event. What have you been doing that?
That was early December. What have you been doing since then?
As you prep for two thousand seventeen. Yeah, I'm a
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I'm a grinder. I pretty much in Texas hard as
I can, for as long as I can, every single day.
You know, I don't think very many days off about
as Christmas Eve. Practicing that's what I love to do. It's, uh,
it's not only my job, but it's something I enjoy doing.
I trained myself to do it for uh Ever, since
I was growing up, for my teenage years, I was
one of the go out the golf course and always
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pushed myself, well what do you do away? I mean,
have you gone and saw rogue one? I mean? Is
there stuff you do outside of the game that that
keeps you interested? No? So the new newest thing that
I'm doing is actually working out. That's also enjoyable for me.
He's seen uh my body functions and groom, so that's
enjoyable to me. What have you What are you doing?
What are you doing workout wise? Uh? Doing some pretty
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intense personal training stuff. Uh, not really gonna get too
many secrets out. I don't like doing that. Yeah, I understand,
I understand you may you may see a different uh
Bryson coming this year, and don't arm wrestle you. It's
what you're saying. Well, I mentioned your amateur success to start.
I mean, of course the web win, played really well
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at Harvard Town. I had that run at Augusta. I
just wanted to get your grade for your first say,
I guess what eight nine months of playing professional golf,
what would you grade two thousand sixteen. Yeah, I mean
it was a it was a great year. I one
on one on tour or the web dot Com Tour,
which is fantastic. One on the pc A Tour, but
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that's gonna come shortly. Uh so I would have graded
in an A. You know, I have been a slow
him at the Master's n C Double A champ well
how the previous year. But still for my my rookie
year of playing the match's playing at Arnold Falmer and
doing pretty well there. I graded today. I did a
pretty good job. And I've always wondered this, you know,
because I I didn't make it professionally. My my professional
career was very very short and I did not make
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very much money, just so you wanted to know. Um,
but you know you were you were twenty two at
the time. You just played Augusta. You get into the
RBC and you finished tie for fourth. You have this
great run. I mean you're in the booth with with
Jim nance And and Faldo talking about your week. And
on Monday morning you get a direct deposit for for
six figures after being an amateur the week before? How
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many times did you refresh your bank account app on
your phone looking at that knowing it's real. Well, the
funny thing is that my wealth devisers didn't give me
the password of the coach for that account. So but
it's a good thing that that happened to because that
wouldn't have been wouldn't have been got any other way. Uh.
That's protecting me and doing the right things with the money. Yeah,
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And you made news, of course, And I don't want
to talk as much about your Uh you know, Franklin
Templeton putting you of course brought side settle out and
you knew how to ask a lot about it. We
asked you a lot about it at Fox. Yeah, no, listen,
that's not that's not the focus. Um. What I did
want to ask you is when you bring in these
types of things, you know what I mean? You mess
around with a lot of different stuff. You've got a
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lot of parts of your golf game that I think
people would maybe say is very different than maybe your
average professional golfer. How much um noise on the outside
do you weigh before you bring something in or is
that not really a factor at all? Well, I let
the results speak for themselves, and I try and mainly
focus on the scientific data behind it that we produced.
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And from the data that we produced with the testing
conventional puttering compared to based on finding, I saw a
half degree dispergent difference or veterans uh if you want
to say that. In the data it went from like
uncommercial putting point forward degrees closed the point um one
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degrees open or something like that. I don't know, point
four degrees open, uh uh, point five degrees less on
on both fives, So meaning it was point to and
then point one degree is open, so that's point five
degrees this version increase um they're on the face control.
So all that means is that it was better face control.
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And when we saw that, I said, why why am
I not using this If it's already showing in data here,
It's got to produce better results on the golf course
under pressure, you know. But the difference is that we
didn't have any results from competition. We had to test
it at some point in time, you know. And this
has not been a short journey for me. It wasn't
a short journey for me and producing the one like
Guyns either. You know. This is thoughtful, uh, dedicated, deliberate
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work that we're doing and making sure this is the
right process to go through. We test and do a
lot of things. Like I said, I don't sleep because
of this stuff. I love working on this stuff. I
love trying to make it a lot more enjoyable for
the game for people out there. I really want to
do that. Uh. And and as I look back on it,
this is a long, hard thought discussion with my coach
of is this actually better? You know? And there were
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times where I doubted it. There were times where I
fully believed it. Now I fully believe it from the data,
from the performance aspect of it. Because it's one thing
to say, look, it's way better on face control in
a controlled environment, but then you got wind out there.
You've got different factors, a lot going on out there.
But it was nice to see some results and and
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actually was only about a week of practicing that style
where I knew is a better face control. We test this, okay,
this is a go. With only a week of practice,
I was able to perform like a tour during playing
from possibly better on the strokes, gain perspective of it,
from putting that I've ever had on tour. So that
was a huge positive look too. Uh, what we're trying
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to do for the future of the game, I think personally,
you know, this could be potentially bigger than one wy.
We have no idea. But what I do know as
of right now is that it's working for me and
I want to put better. Um you know, it's no,
it's no personal thing where I want to gain attention
from it. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm
just trying to more buttons than I believe this is
a better way to do it, right. I mean, you
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know people would put between their legs if if if
it if it helped them on the strokes gain I mean,
you know that's something golfers have always done. I just think,
you know, with with some of the stuff you you've
brought in as a twenty three year old, you know,
people have as you you said it, I mean people
have sometimes said, you know, is this gimmicky? Is this whatever?
And I mean you crunch numbers all the time, looking
at the math to try to make golf as as
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easy as possible, correct absolutely and efficient as possible, as
I like to say, you know, the scientists are all
about efficiency, making sure that they're figuring out in the
right way, that they create hypothesis hypotheses and then they
go and and do research on and they come to conclusions.
And that's what we do. That's what I've done my
whole life. Uh, that's the easiest way to go about
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figuring something out. And and we've figured out that it
is a little bit better of a way to put
um and I think as we go down the road, Well,
first off, let's think about it from a hypothetical sense.
What do pool players do? They look based on to
their target, they stroke it down the line right, they
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make a motion that's in front of them. Not to
decide if you're trying to put If you're trying to
play pool like you putt it, who wouldn't really work
out the world because it's a precision precision sports and
the same thing with putting this putting the aspect of
this game. The game of golf is all about precisions
and putting right, and so it's the same thing as cool.
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So why wouldn't we try and do the same EXACTI thing.
It's easier to read a putt from that that perspect
of it, that's the way we read put But it's
also easier to see how the ball is traveling across
the surface, so you can ingrain what you've been seeing
and be and you're able to read puts better because
of it. Um that's only one aspect and you're keeping
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the face swear of the plane. I mean, there's there's
a multitude of things of why I believe it's going
to be the future of the game. Um. Now, it's
just making sure that we're building the funders within the
parameters of the U s G and we want to
respect that. We want to absolutely go to the process
and make sure that all is good there. We don't
want any headaches there. We want to make sure that
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they're okay with it and and that we are are
protecting the games as well. You know what it brings
to mind to me And I actually for people out
there that listen to this podcast, I actually do do
homework at times. I was. I really listened to this
Malcolm Gladwell podcast, his revisionist history podcast, and it was
about Will Chamberlain and Rick Berry and um, I mean,
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for lack of a better turn, that the granny free
throw shot. And you know, Rick Berry talked about working
with Shaquille O'Neil and Shack said, you know this makes
me feel silly. You know, I mean, shooting in your
career free throw is also fairly silly. It's just funny
that it's almost you know, it's macho is um takes
over sometimes for athletes and instead of being efficient, they
go they go with the route that everybody else goes,
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all right, and it's a little bit of pride. And
it's been tough for me. The one like Irons prepared
me for based on thing. I can tell you that
I would not be able to handle the criticism. And
then they saying if it wasn't for the one length,
because it wasn't very It wasn't dramatically different. It didn't
look crazy in my bag, you know, when I was
setting up that didn't look that different. But this is
a completely different style of putting it. It It looks completely
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different at least, And so the criticism I know is
going to be even heavier. And when I go to
sell you, when I go to and play for the
rest of my life this way. But I know that
the one length Irons have prepared me for this moment
in time. But whatever reason that it is, definitely got
sent for for him to say, Look, I'm preparing you
for for the rest of your life. It's been doing this,
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you know, because I think that this potentially could be
again bigger than one length. You never know. But at
this point in time, I'm trying to perform at my
absolute best within the roles and do my absolute best
to win tournaments up there. You you mentioned criticism. Do
do you read stuff? I mean, do you do you
look at replies on Twitter? Do you do you pay
attention to that kind of stuff? So absolutely, but it
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does not affect me. I love hearing what people say
because I want to have an argument, not arguments, I
want to have um things to stay back to them.
Uh as a counter argument today, you know they're gonna
they say and say, well, this, this and this and this.
So I want to be prepared so that when I
get out on on tour, when the media comes around,
when everybody's talking about it, only want to be prepared.
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It's much as possible, so I can say the right
things at the right times, not be blindsided by an
idea or a thought. Well, Bubba wants Bubba Watson once said,
and I think it's kind of the way he's always
lived golf. He said, if I have a swing, I
have a shot. Do you have a certain mantra that
you feel like you live by in golf? I mean
you did say something about, you know, efficiency and in
trying to be the most efficient golfer possible. Yeah, there's
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a few things that come to mind. On one of
them is is mechanics produced, feel reproduces or or appropriate
reception as I like to say reproduces, so either or
feeling appropriates after the kind of saying, that's that's one
of them. Let today's garbage be better than yesterday's Like that,
I can go, I can go on and on with
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these different little things. Um, you know, but I think
the biggest thing is that don't be afraid to try
new things. That's exactly what the forefathers of our country did.
Thomas that is, and Isaac Newton and all these great
scientific philosophers have done in their life. They've pushed the envelope.
They've done things to make our world better. We would
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not be to be here without Thomas that isn't so
these are the guys that were leaders, that were not
afraid to fail. And and I think, as it's just
a short little note, is that don't be afraid to fail.
That's the possibly the greatest learning experience you can get
is to learn how to be okay with failing. Won't
learn the most from Yeah, and you've done You've done
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one length. I mean your your golf swing, I would say,
is extremely efficient, but definitely different as well. Now you've
you've messed around a little bit with side saddle. Is
there an and again, I know you don't like to
reveal stuff, which I totally understand, but is there other
things that could come down the opera at times that
would look a little bit different? Yeah? Absolutely, I think
I think there there may be a potential for that
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we've kind of gone through the whole bag now, but uh,
there's one one last aspect that I'm willing to try
and go for, uh and and and have to do
with some of the longer clubs. If you know what
I mean, Does this mean you're gonna have like twelve
head covers in your golf bag? No no, no, no, no,
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no no no. I'm just talking about the driver in
the free way. That's always been an interest of mine,
just trying to somehow figure out a way to get
those in the same length as well, because why not
have one swing for every single shot? If you figure out,
if you figure out how to be more effective with
a driver, will you text me because that is always
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been kind of my achilles heal. I really like that
you can. I won't tell anybody. I won't scoop you.
I promise I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's
more practice that's right, less of this and more out
on the range. You know that there was I think
there was. I think Davis Love comes to mind, but
there was somebody I remember hearing one time. Um said
he was a better chip or one handed, but he
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would not come out and do it in competition because,
as you mentioned, he was a bit afraid of what
it looked like. So I do think that's a smart
way of going about it, especially you know, as young
as you are and obviously with a ton of talent.
And I don't want to bring up a negative that
that happened you in the last year, but I did
want to talk a little bit about the Masters. You
were playing excellent golf for thirty five holes you made
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I would say a poor swing. I mean, as long
as you don't mind me saying it was a bit
of a poor swing on a teen. Do you feeling yeah?
Do you do you feel like that was a little nerves?
Was it just just a bad swing at the wrong time?
And have you learned a little bit from that experience? Absolutely?
I think that it was a fantastic learning experience for myself.
And and like I said back then, I'm learning at
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every every single moment. That's that's what I was trying
to do, and unfortunately I made a bad swing. Uh
potentially could have been caused by a little bit of nerves,
as I was right right there next to the leads
and three five old than matters. Uh, that's definitely Uh.
Look that hasn't happened in a long time. So it
was definitely a moment that that I tried to be
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as prepared as possible, uh for, But unfortunately that's something
that you really can't train for and you just gotta
be through it and you gotta somehow muster it up
to be able to do it, and I unfortunately didn't.
But I learned a lot. I learned that I can
play with the best, I can perform with the best,
and I know that I can be the best if
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I work hard enough. You know, I've I've definitely seen
that light, especially going and finishing fifteen in the US Open,
qualifying for the U s A requalifying for the US Open,
and then and then playing as well as I did.
You know, I definitely learned from that as well. There
it's just a reconfirmed the statement that I can be
the best. I can win a major. I can do
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those things. Um, you know, my body doesn't allow me
to do it, but unfortunately it is what it is.
I made a bad swing and and pulled a little
left and caught the holly bushes on eighteen just funny
enough named Polly there, I guess, so you know it was.
It was just it's just the way it happened, and
and uh, it was a fun time. I can tell
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you that, Uh, there was no better experience in the
world than being on the first tea and hitting that
first tea shot right down the middle and looking at
my parents after I did it, and it was it was.
It was a cool moment and experience. I'll never forget.
What was that. The most nervous you've ever been in golf?
I would say, I try, and I try and take
nerves out of it. To be honest with you, I
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try and not have nerves. Nerves are only personally. I
think nerves are a hindrance if you're a performance because
when you're in the zone, and I've been I've been
in it a couple of times, you really aren't nervous.
It's more of just executing and doing the job at hand.
You don't have time to feel nerves. It's just an
absolute it's an absolute focus on completing the task at hand,
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And so I try and get into that state more
often than not. You know, I think that there's different
people that would say the nerves help them get into
a state, into that state of mind. I don't know
how that really works. But when I performed my best,
I just know that I'm going to do something. It's
not that I'm nervous and then I somehow I'll get
into the zone. It's more of I just focus on
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executing the shot at a really high level, and my
brain functions at a really high level, and that's what
allows me to say, Look, there's nothing else that's going
to happen except this shot, and it's going to happen.
I'm gonna make the shot. I'm gonna hit the shot,
make the spot, whatever it is. And that's that's what
the zone is to me. And funny enough, that's that's
if I can get into that state on Thursday all
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the way through through Sunday, it's you know, it's watch out.
But I haven't been able to do that once, um,
and I'm training myself to to be able to do that.
That's a long story, though, I don't I don't know
if there's been a ton of people that have been
able to stay in it from Thursday to Sunday evening.
I you know, I think about Stinson at Troon, or
think about Tiger at Pebble, But you know, I mean,
it's it's kind of a it's a it's a it's
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a high, you know thing to think about it when
you when you when you put yourself out there in
that position, when when you know, speaking of somebody that
was in the zone at least for I don't know
what sixty holes. I mean Jordan's speed. You played with
him for two days. When you play with these guys, granted,
I mean, yell, are about the same age, if not
the same age? Do do you do you take notes
from him? Do you do you look at him and
see him a guy that's already been on the tour
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for a few years or are you just kind of
your own your own specimen? Yeah? So origin you know,
when I just got out there and I was playing
my first couple of events, yeah, I definitely looked around
and saw people were doing and how they were acting,
how they're responding and what they were doing and everything
like that. But over time playing with Jordan, it was
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like I just wanted to beat him, But honestly I
wanted to play better than him. I to execute every
shot better than him and make make more fuss to him,
although I didn't the Masters, But that's honestly what I
wanted to do. It just became another competitor. It's funny.
It's just like being back in junior days playing against
another guy and trying to beat him, beat the the
guy that was the best on the tour at that
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time when that time, and that's honestly all it becomes.
It's just a different level of it, obviously. I mean, yeah,
at the end of the day, it's I mean, as
I've always said about golf, at the end of the day,
it's it's hitting golf shots. If it's at Augusta National
or the local Muni. If you shoot sixty five and
they shoot sixty six, it doesn't matter who's who you're
playing against. Yeah, And I think another little cool catch
(21:36):
phrases is that what is golf. It's repetition. That's all
golf is. It's being able to reproduce your motions. And
that's honestly all golf is. If you can reproduce your motion,
that's it. That's the game of golf. I'm telling you
right there, Well, if I was gonna m if I
(21:58):
was gonna ask you to, if I was going to
ask you to name of off course that you think
defines every major Championship, So you know you could you
can name ok, of course Oakman for the US Open.
But a golf course that you feel like defines the
elements of all the majors. I know you're a big
golf historian. Which golf course has come to mind when
you think of the other three, of course, outside of
a gust of the masters. Yeah, that's a tough question
(22:18):
because each has its own unique features, right, but one
course that I would say, boy, that's uh, that's not
an easy one. I can tell you that because Augusta's
the Gusta, all right, and he got US Open, which
is really really, really really hard. And then you have
the British Open, which is Links and the p G
(22:39):
a Um which is which is on a very very
difficult golf course every year. It's on on more of
an American golf course. Uh. You know, that's a tough question.
I would say, personally, Uh Shinnecock asked to be Foreman
defined divines at all? I would say, I've never played
(22:59):
there before. When what I've seen, uh, you know, you've
got greens that are ridiculously fast, like like I got.
It's more of a windy golf course. It's more of
British Open kind of style of look, and we've got
tight fairways as well with them the longer rough that's
that's one that I would say is I would actually stay. Honestly,
I just thought about it. It is Aaron Hills. Aaron
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Hills next year is going is going to be the
epitome of every major championship I think personally. Have you
got a chance to play it? Yeah, well yeah, I
won there in college. Okay, there you go. That's why
I said, yeah, then I you're good. And then I
played uh, let do with Samlar there back in two thousand,
(23:42):
Oh no, no, Tleven. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's
I got a chance to play thirty six there in September,
and it's very different, I think than even what you
see in the pictures and what you expect. It's really long.
I mean it's brutally long from the back teas I
played at one day and and I nearly had to
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get carried in by the end of the round. But
you know, it's it's just a very you know, with wind,
it's British Openy. Without wind, it can be, you know,
feel like a PGA championship if you can bind a
couple of the elements and it's dried out, it will
really really feel like a US open. I think, uh,
I think, I think people are really gonna like it.
I mean, I I know you, like you said, you
played it a few times. I'm sure you probably agree.
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All Right, I got some I got some quick hitters
for you. You can't name yourself, but I was interested.
Who do you think is the smartest player out on
the PGA tour? Uh? I would say Hendrick Stenson by
far and well and Jason's Day. Those two are right there.
Interesting favorite golf course in the world A cypress point.
(24:48):
There's no question if you weren't a professional golfer, you'd
be and I'm just kidding, would be a I probably
I wasn't profession Can I say I I could work
in the game of golf. I mean you can take
the cop out answer and say something golfy. That's fine, Okay, okay, okay,
So i'd be a BIOMECHANISTMS in the game of golf.
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I'd be doing research and figure out in the most
efficient functional swing points. Okay, you're guilty, pleasure. You've mentioned
you're a golf nut, and now you're working out. You
gotta have a guilty pleasure in there. Chocolate this bad man,
it is bad. I love it. See s Candy board
o bar. It's the California thing. He's candy. It's awesome.
What song do you think has the most plays ever
(25:32):
on your cell phone? Oh? For sure cold Play. Don't
Let It Break Your Heart? Nice? You know the answer.
I'm really impressed right now. I was trying to think
when you were answering if I had an answer, I
think mine would be the General by Dispatch. But yeah,
there you go. You shoot it out. I guess it
pumps up in your head. Okay, And I asked people
this the last question. I'm gonna ask you this last
(25:53):
question that I ask you one more question about seventeen.
But I wanted to ask this in the quickitter. Who's
the most famous person you've ever asked for their autograph? Oh? Well, uh,
I've asked the autograph. I mean I've gotten a lot
of signatures. Um, isn't a raffle or is a kid?
I mean if you were a kid and you went
to a golf tournament, you know you asked Tiger, you know,
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Jack or somebody like that. Sure, I'm not even thinking
Arnold Palmer by far, by far, how old were you? Oh,
literally this past year I think met him, uh you
know last year, well the Walker Cup actually so year
and a half ago. So that was by far the
coolest moment for me, being able to walk up to
(26:34):
him and ask for his autograph and he signed it
on well at the Arnold Palmer he actually signed it
on my yardage book and so that's kept away and
locked and shape. So that was pretty cool for the
last time he was ever at Well, I wanted to
ask you just I know you you've won, you know,
a professional event now on the web of course, you
had an incredible amateur career. I mean, you know you're
(26:56):
in this you know list of of Ryan Moore and
Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods and Phil Michoelson and much um.
You've you've got your kind of run through the pros
in sixteen. Now it's two thousand seventeen, and I was
just gonna ask, what is a successful year in two
thousand seventeen? And if you have goals, what are those
goals for the whole rest of the twelve months. Yeah,
I mean they're they're pretty lofty. Um, I'm trying not
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to set too many goals. I have an idea of
what I want to do. Um. You know, I definitely
want to win on tour, but I also want to
win a major. I know my game is good enough
if I can get back into the majors, which I
believe I can here pretty quickly. Uh, I think I
can do that. I think I can play pretty well
in a couple of them. And and and how how
many pro golfers have come up to you, even just
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at the Franklin Temple and attempted to roll a putt
side saddle face on? You gotta start saying sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
I apologize face on. That's my bad. I'm not saying
side saddle anymore. You're good, It's all good. So side
saddle is more like you're looking from the side and
you're putting from the side. Face on is where you're
facing over the law. It UM, just a kind of
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define it a little bit. But asked me the question,
you guys totally blank. How many guys didn't you guys
come up to you and try to do it? Yeah,
well it was. It was funny. Justin Thomas the first
time I pulled it out, he says, how do you
hit a forty footer? Dude? How do you do that?
And I knocked him all over and boom, knocked it
right up stiff. You know what, he goes up. I
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guess again to walk away. So that was a funny
little story. But I think pretty much, uh, there was
at least five or six guys that came up and
tried it, just for messing around. The Future was trying
a little bit. It was fun watching and he got
to hanging it really quickly. Pretty well. He's so he's
so good at all that stuff. I mean, he's just
he's one of those hand up coordinated, gifted guys. You know,
(28:46):
his hands have been trained pretty darn well. He's a
great player and a great person too, and love love
talking to him. Yeah, he's a he's a great duvite.
He came in and chatted with us like y'all did
at the franklintin w And you guys are all great.
It's a fun event, Bryce, and I really appreciate it.
Good luck in too, iusand seventeen. I'm sure I'll see
you out there. And I'm excited. I'm excited for the
for the year, and um for you to bring out
some of this stuff that's gonna bring the conversation around
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in golf. I think it's I think it's good for
the game. Well, thank you. I appreciated it's an R
being on the show and thanks for all you do.
Well that'll do it for this Clubhouse Podcast. Many thanks
to Bryson for coming on. A very interesting kid, bright future.
I'm excited to see what happens with him. Many thanks
to you all for listening and subscribing. Make sure you
sign up for that Lose letter and write a review
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