Colin Cowherd's Fantasy Football Over/Under Picks & Predictions + The 10 Biggest Questions for Week 6 (Ep. 1394)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm
Ryan Warmley, joining this Friday morning by Derek Brown and
my Pat Fitz Morris Bellas it's a key questions show.
Before we dive into the show, we want to do
a quick recap of Thursday night football, as we often do.
Forty nine Ers, thirty six Seahawks twenty four. In this one,

(00:21):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Actually sure what the single biggest takeaway is.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
There were kind of two that I wanted to highlight
that I'll ask you guys about. One of them is,
obviously the running back situation for San Francisco. Jordan Mason
did leave the game. He came back in for a
play and then left again. Didn't play pretty much the
entire second half. We did get a very long run
to close it out from Isaac Garendo on the San
Francisco side.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
He didn't do a.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ton prior to that. Is he a priority add for
you guys next week? Are you waiting to see what happens?
You know with some of the injury updates for Mason,
How are you approaching this backfield right now?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Debro?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I think Grenda needs to be at the top of
the list. I think Patrick Taylor is definitely going to
be involved. But if you want the upside play if
Mason wordem is time, which we can't discount. He tried
to come back in the second half, got one carry.
If everybody bet Jordan Mason rushing overs like me, you
would have liked to see one more carry for Jordan Mason,
but it didn't happen. So I think Grindo showed exactly

(01:12):
what you want out of the type of handcuff like situation,
Like he has the big play opportunity and the ability.
You know, we can debate on raw talent for days,
but he does have that straight line speed. If you
give him a crease, he could take one of the
house and he almost did it last night. So Grindo
needs to be picked up everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But people, Fitz, do you agree that Grendo needs to
be picked up even if let's say we get good
news on Jordan Mason in the coming week and it
seems like he's going to play in week seven, do
you still think Garendo needs to be rostered even though
in that scenario he's really a backup to a guy
that's already you know, serving as a backup.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, a workload in a Kyle Shanahan offense for running
back is like a golden ticket. It is a willy
want a golden ticket for fantasy. And you know, Isaac
Garndo playing behind a guy who now probably isn't going
to be healthy by next week. So yeah, I do
think he's a priority AD. And I was entertained by
Isaac Garendo being on Twitter today asking EA Sports not

(02:10):
to give him, not to dock him in his speed
rating because he chose to go down inside the five
yard line.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I did.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I thought he chose to go down when I was
watching that live, and then I saw some people on
Twitter that were saying like the Seahawks were dumb for
tackling him. I know the Seahawks did kind of dive
whichever defender was and kind of bring him down a bit,
but it looked to me like he was sliding on purpose.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, he did get tripped up, so it was a
little vague and hard to tell, but to me, it
looked like he kind of did take a dive inside
the five and then they went on and scored the
touchdown anyway, so you might as well just the end
up exactly the question.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I wanted to bring up.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Fits on the Seahawks side. Kenneth Walker, somebody I was
really high on in August. So I have a lot
of places, you know, not the best running day fourteen
for thirty two. He did get a touchdown, which helped.
But I want to bring up the pass catching eight target.
It's caught all eight of them, just thirty seven yards.
But that is a real difference maker in PPR and
half FPR leagues, and I saw I think it was

(03:07):
rich Reebar friend of the show, was tweeting last night
how it just really raises the floor and there's like
a case for Walker as RB one rest of the season.
I don't think he said he had him there, but
like with pass catching like this, you can at least
build that case for a guy like Walker. Do you
feel the same way Fits just seeing the pass catching
last night.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, pass catching add that to the mix with Kenneth Walker,
to the explosiveness he gives you as a runner, and
we are talking about a top five fantasy back, So
very exciting what we saw from him in the passing game.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, deep Row, did you think.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
I remember a time boys when people on Twitter said
that Kenneth Walker didn't have hands and that he probably
couldn't catch a football. So it's really nice to see
the pass catching up side. I mean, honestly, this makes
a matchup proof. You're telling me he's gonna get He's
got eight targets in each of the last two games.
He's had at least thirty six receiving yards in each

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last three games. Yeah, I mean, he's matchup proof regardless
if he's not gonna get it done on the ground,
and we've seen he can do that because he's one
of the best rushing talents in the NFL. If he's
not doing that, if he's getting this type of pass
game usage. Right now, I've got him as RB four
in my rest of season rankings, but I think the
conversation for him starts at RB two. I think he's

(04:23):
firmly in the same conversation as Breeze Hall and Derek
Henry right now.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Interesting game for the for the passing attack for Seattle
because they had to throw a lot because they're trailing
for most of the game. So Gino did get over
three hundred yards, but it wasn't a good Geno day,
and so a lot of receivers struggled because of that.
You know, JSN.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Metcalf getting a sixty yard touchdown white stupid penalty.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
That was DK Metcalf three catches on eleven targets just
forty eight yards, and we missed out on a fifty
yard touchdown on an irrelevant penalty.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
We also sign out on the short touchdown where his
big toe was over the line. Man to day, if
you were a DK Metcalf investor.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah that is over like me.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I don't think we're worried about him long term,
but that was unfortunate. But by the way, like I've
been saying this for years, I don't think legal shift
penalties should exist. I don't think legal formation penalties should exist.
I think as long as the eleven guys are lining
up on the right side of the line of scrimmage,
I don't care where people stand, and I don't think
it should be something that the NFL litigates. I've said
that for a long time, and I said that especially

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so last night as a DK Metcalf manager.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
All right, let's get into our questions here.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
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Speaker 2 (06:05):
Before we jump into.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
This week's questions, let's check in with Colin Coward and
his over under picks for the Fantasy Over Under Challenge.
Time now for the Week six Over Under Challenge. This
segment is presented by DraftKings and as as always, I
am joined by Colin Coward to talk through some of
our favorite player picks for this week's slate. Hard to
believe it's already Week six. The offseason weeks seem to

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just drag on and then in season they seem to
fly by. As a reminder to everyone listening, you can
play along with our over under challenge and try to
not only beat Colin, but win some cool prizes as
well by heading to fantasypros dot com Slash Challenge. All right, Colin,
let's start, as always with the quarterbacks, and we'll start
with CJ.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Stroud.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
He's QB eleven so far in the season, seventeen fantasy
points per game on DraftKings so far, has not finished
higher than QB seven in any week. He's having one
of those years to my eye, where when you watch him,
he clearly has it right. We know he's good, but
the box scored on aren't always there. Now he's facing
a New England pass defense that's allowing just seven point
six yards per attempt this season, seventh worst in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Excuse me, what do you make of Stroud in this matchup?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Do not like it?

Speaker 6 (07:11):
New England's played people tough. He doesn't have Nico Collins.
It changes everything. He struggled without Joe Mixon. You know,
you take this young quarterback, you put him on the road,
you send him up north. I think I think New
England's not a very good team. They may be the
league's worst team, but they've got spirit. They fight. I

(07:32):
think defensively they're pretty solid. I think Drake May is
a better version than Jacoby Brissett at this point, a
better option. I don't like this for CJ.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Shroud.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I was going to ask, do you think could you
see the defense maybe kind of stepping up even more
so and feeling galvanized by the quarterback change and getting
kind of the young hot shot rookie in there.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Yeah, I mean you see it with interim coaches. Watch
the Jets play really inspired football against Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's the substitute.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Teacher rule where everybody loves the substitut you know they
want to impress. My take is New England Drake May
will play pretty well and the Jets will with the
interim coach as well.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
The other quarterback. I wanted to hit on Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Obviously, coming off of a huge game, He's just QB
sixteen on the season on DraftKings. Scoring was QB one
last week thirty five point four fantasy points. Obviously, throwing
for five hundred yards helps a lot with the fantasy scoring.
He now gets to go up against that Carolina pass defense.
What do you think about this matchup for Cousins?

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Well, it's a divisional game and Kirk's coming off the
best game of his career, so I think people are
overvaluing the moment. Generally speaking, in division rivalry games, I
would take the underdog, especially when the underdog is at home.
So I think I think Carolina is a team that
if they get healthy offensive lineman back watch out. They

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may go into this game undermanned up front. But I don't.
I think Kirk Cousins by low sell High is not
going to throw for five hundred yards. I think it's
a bit of a sell here off that amazing Thursday
night football performance.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Let's look at some running backs here. Derrick Henry, the
age of this wonder has been awesome. I was very
aggressively drafting him in fantasy this year, just I loved
the fit with the Ravens, and there were some people
fading him given the age, but that has proven to
be the incorrect thing to do. He's RB two on
the season, over twenty fantasy points per game on DraftKings.
He's now going up against this Commander's rush defense allowing

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over five yards per carry on the season, third worst
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Do you like Henry this week?

Speaker 6 (09:29):
I think Baltimore is the better team, and I think Washington.
I really do buy Washington. But Lamar Jackson may have
played his best game as a pro. So whenever a
player does that, I think they scale back. And I
also think they don't. They don't want to make Lamar vulnerable.

(09:49):
This team's offensive line. I think they're gonna go back
and forth this year. Lamar game, Derrick Henry game, Lamar game,
Derrick Henry game. I think this is Dereck Henry game.
So I think he'll flourish here.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
It's a good point because just in the last two weeks,
you know, Week four, it was a Derek Henry game
against Buffalo. Week five o Lamar Jackson game. So we
think we're going back to the ground with the Ravens
this week. The other running back I wanted to hit
on Jamiir Gibbs at Dallas. He's RB nine on the season,
fifteen Fantasy points per game. Facing a Dallas rush defense
that has allowed six hundred and seventy five rushing yards

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so far the season, ninth worst in the NFL. We've
seen them get run over a few times the season.
Derek Henry was one of the running backs who has
done that before. So do you like Gibbs And then
also do you think this could be more of a
David Montgomery game versus Gibbs coming out of the by
or where we see more of a split like we've
seen so far.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Well, it's a big game because remember Detroit lost to
Dallas on that kind of iffy officiating call, and then
Dan Campbell sort of emotionally, he's a bit of a
firework show, went for it. Probably shouldn't have. I think
this is a big game for Detroit. You know, you
play the Cowboys, and you know it used to be

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we only watched Detroit on Thanksgiving. This is gonna be
the most watched game of the weekend. And I think
the amazing thing about Jared Goff's perfect night was that
he only threw eighteen times. I think Ben Johnson has
figured out over the last two weeks what am I
doing run the ball? So I like both backs to
have good games. And I also think this is a

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team that is trying to establish an identity. I thought
they were a little cute early. I think they're getting
back to what they are physical now. I think they
double down on that.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
A couple of wide receivers to wrap things up today.
One of them in a game we've already hit on
Terry McLaurin going up against the Ravens on the other
side of that one. He's wide receiver twenty four on
DraftKings so far this season, possibly due for a breakout game.
He does lead the Commanders in targets, catches, yards long
as catch and receiving touchdowns, so he's been involved. He
hasn't had that huge blow up quite yet. And this

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Baltimore pass defense has been got at times this year,
you know, particularly last week. Joe Burrow looks amazing against them. Now,
Terry McLaurin might not be Jamar chasevil Good, but he's
pretty good, and this defense has struggled against top level receivers.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
What do he expect from McLaurin this week?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
I think this is a lot of points. I think
Baltimore's favored by almost a touchdown for a reason, but
I still think Washington, even if they're in a losing cause,
they're they're gonna flex. I mean, this has the classic
backdoor cover feel where Baltimore is clearly the better team,
but Washington outplayed a little bit, comes firing back until

(12:36):
proven otherwise. I think Jaden Daniels, Terry McLaurin, and Washington
are gonna score a lot of points. Now, Baltimore is
gonna move the ball on this defense, but that's good
because that means Washington gets more possessions and often more quickly.
So I think this is a shootout, and I think
McLaurin will flourish.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm so fascinated by that matchup. I think it is
the highest total of the week. It was last time
I checked. And you know, stylistically, like the Ravens defense
wants you to throw to the middle of the field,
Jane Daniels likes to throw to the sideline. Plus, like
I know, they're kind of downplaying the Daniels and Lamar,
you know, similarities at least the quarterbacks are in press conferences.
But you know Washington wants him to come out and
have a good game, So I think they're gonna throw

(13:19):
a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm really excited to watch that one.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
The last wide receiver here, Stefan Diggs, also in a
game he already hit on talking about Stroud. He's of
course going up against the Patriots as well. Wide receiver
fifteen a little over ten fantasy points per game on
DraftKings this season.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
No Nico Collins.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
As he already mentioned, Tank Dell has struggled so far
this year, so could this be a big Digs game.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
I don't think Houston's gonna move the ball much. The
Texans are kind of a fascinating team. I think because
we were so excited that we got another star quarterback
that we all kind of fell in love with them.
But they're still really young, and now they're young and
beat up. I do think if Nico Collins doesn't play, However,

(14:00):
I do think c J. Stroud believes he's going to
develop this relationship. So I'm going to roll the dice
here and say the one member of the Texans I
think plays well is Stefan Diggs. I think c J.
Stroud realizes if I'm going to beat Kansas City, if
I'm going to beat Buffalo in the playoffs, if I'm
going to beat these top AFC teams like Baltimore, We're

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going to have to have multiple weapons. And I think
this is the classic. Hey, it could be. It could
be a choppy, ugly game. I want to develop my
relationship with Diggs, who I still like. By the way,
I don't think he's disruptive. I think he's impatient. I
think after about three years he's like Davonte Adams, he
gets over it. But I don't think Davonte or Stefan
Diggs are disruptive players. You know, I don't think they're

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too They're outspoken, but they're very, very good players. In
the first two years they're at a place they're highly productive.
So I think you'll have a good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I know you didn't necessarily say we got like over
our skis on Strat or anything. I know we both
like him. But do you think that maybe the shine's
coming off? Bobby Slowan got a little bit just in
talking about this offense.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
No, I think young quarterbacks are very reliant on run support.
Look at Caleb Williams in the last two weeks when
DeAndre Swift's had some crevices, it's like a different quarterback.
His completion percentage last two weeks is seventy one percent.
And I just think as good as c J.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Stround was.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Patrick Mahomes admitted the light went on year three. Crowd's terrific,
but one of the reasons he was terrific. Laramie Tunzel,
you know run game multiple receivers. Well, now you're taking
Nko out, and now you're taking Joe Mixon out. Well,
he's still a young quarterback. You can do that with Mahomes.
Now you can do that with Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow.

(15:40):
So I just think young quarterbacks need help. And I
think Slowok's fine. Some are criticizing him, but I think
Bobby's proven he can coach. I just think the kid
needs more of his top stars.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Thanks again for hopping on, Colin.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Remember everybody to head to fantasypros dot com slash challenge
to play along all season long. All right, guys, let's
start off with the London game, which we have another
one of this week, Another early fun start for the
folks on the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
This time it's Jaguars at Bears.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Technically, you know, at Bears they are the home team,
while it really should be the Jags. I guess, given
how often they play in London. And I want to
ask you, guys, which of these players, coming off of
his best game of the season, is most likely to
stay hot in Week six? Caleb Williams quarterback for the Bears,
or take Bigsby running back for the Jaguars, Deebro, what
do you think.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I think it's gonna be Caleb. If there's any get
right alicks or in the NFL right now, it's either
facing the Indianapolis Colts defense or facing the Jacksonville Jaguars.
And we're seeing more and more upside and better play
out of Caleb Williams. So going against a pass defense
that's allowed the second most passing yards per game and
the most fantasy points via passing, Yeah, Caleb is knocking

(16:54):
on the door of QB one rankings for me this week?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Do you agree with that? Fits? Where do you have
them ranked?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I do?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I have Caleb rank QB twelve, So he's a low
end QB one for me. And the Jaguars have given
up the most fantasy points per game to opposing quarterbacks
twenty three point one. They're giving up eight point one
yards per attempt, and we've got Caleb probably feeling pretty
good about things after his best performance I think to
date this season, best fantasy performance. Also, like I like

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Tank Bigsby, so, but you know, like they're not going
to marginalize Travis Etn He's going to have a role
in this offense and It's not a bad matchup for
Tank this week. It's not as if the Bears have
been lights out against the run.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
But I do worry.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
About the possibility that Tank can be game scripted out
in certain circumstances because he he did a twenty eight
yard catch last week. That was his second catch in
twenty two NFL games. He just we were just talking
about the value that Kenneth Walker's pass catch and gives
him no pass catching value really for Tank, and that

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makes his value fragile week to week. If the Jaguars,
who have not been a good team, fall behind by
multiple scores all of a sudden, you're looking at a
scenario that's really bad for Tank because you don't know
what he's going to get as far.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
As touches if the Jags fall behind.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, it was, I mean, it was the clear like
outlier so far in the season last week for Tank,
so you know he hasn't done it much. It was,
I mean, to be fair, kind of an outlier for
Caleb as well. In terms of the final line. It
was the first time he's finished inside the top twelve
amongst quarterbacks was Week five. He's QB six. His next
high is finished. Besides that was QB fourteen. Everything else
is in the twenties or the thirties, so you know,

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it hasn't been this amazing fantasy start to the season,
but you know, he's definitely I feel like he's anecdotally
looking better. And by the way, the you know, the
friendly matchups are going to continue. Caleb has a buy
next week, but then after that is Washington, so he's
in a really nice stretch of defenses that are really
appealing for fantasy.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Deebro, did you mention where do you have Tank ranked
this week?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I've got Tank. He was knocking on the door of
RB two status, probably in the high RB three range.
Where you at Tank pigs B I've got him an RB.
I've got him an RB twenty nine right now, he's
floating in that high end RB three range.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
That's about consensus.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He's RB twenty seven in ECR but in that same
kind of late twenties range. Let's go to the next
question here, and this is just a super fun matchup.
Commanders at Ravens, two of the most prolific offenses in
football this season, both in terms of the actual scoring
and in terms of some of the advanced stuff like
with Dvoa. Like by any metric you look at, these
are two of the best offenses in football. We're obviously

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expecting tons of scoring in this one. Most of the
players in this game that we would ever be considering
starters are pretty clear starters for fantasy. So I just
want to kind of take a second to play Devil's
Advocate and make you guys pick one player each to
make the case to fade in fantasy this week relative
to where they're ranking, even though we I know we're
probably starting most of these guys fits. I'll start with
you here, which one player are you playing Devil's Advocate

(20:04):
for and fading this week?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Well, gosh, the easy answer would be a Baltimore tight end, right, Like,
that's not going too far out of line to fade
a Baltimore tight end, And it would probably be Isaiah
likely since he hasn't had more than three targets in
a game since that huge Week one showing against the Chiefs.
But uh no, worm, I Am not going to take
the easy way out on this one. I'll give you

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a real answer. Like Terry McLaurin, he could smash against
this Baltimore defense that has been really giving it up
through the air. But he's only averaging seven point two
targets a game, which is not a big number for
a guy who is the number one receiver and the
alpha on his team. Hasn't been a huge amount of
passing volume for Washington, although they've been very efficient. And

(20:50):
you know, like I know the Ravens have really given
it up in the passing game, but like, I don't
hate their outside cornerback duo of Marlon Humphrey and Brandon Stevens.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I think those guys are pretty decent.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
And PFF has both of those guys graded as top
forty cornerback. So theoretically, I could see a scenario where
maybe Terry McLaurin just has sort of an okay game
and doesn't smash. But and by the way, we're calling
this the DMV matchup, is that right? I learned that
from you on the Start Sit show the other day.

(21:23):
Doesn't mean we're going to wait in a long line
to watch this game. It just means, is what is
DMV again?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, it's the geographical area around it. So it's like
DC Maryland Virginia is like the most common wavy. There
are people who will say that well, Baltimore doesn't count
as a DMV. You have to be closer into DC.
It's it's actually somewhat of a debatable definition, but it's
roughly DC and the surrounding areas in Maryland and Virginia
are known as as the DMV. I brought this up

(21:51):
on Thursday, and ericsonafits are like, what the heck?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
I still I'm scratching my head over here.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Like what I had forgotten that I was talking of
you who didn't spend their whole lives in the DMV,
and I just you know, used it off. And but
that is what's referred to. It is not the Department
of Motor Vehicles. That I can assure you.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I yeah, I'm really interested by the McLaurin picked.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
So the Ravens, like the defense has been good against
non elite receivers. It's been you know, we saw in
the Buffalo game, right, like Buffalo is a good offense
led by a superhuman quarterback. But they didn't have that
like true alpha on the outside, and the Ravens were
able to shut them down. The guys who have torched
them were Rashi Rice in Week one and DeVante Adams

(22:34):
in week two, and you know Brock Bowers as well.
You know Jamar Chase t Higgins in week five, CD
lamp to a degree in week three. So the question
is is, like, does Terry McLaurin kind of rise to
that level of receiver. I think he's really darn good.
I don't think he's DeVante Adams or Jamar Chase, So
I'm really curious to see how they do that. The
other thing, too, is like the Ravens defense is built
through the spine. Typically you did mention the outside corners,

(22:57):
who I think are a little underrated fits, but like
they want people to be thrown in the middle of
the field too, and the commanders, like Jaye Daniels wants
to throw, you know, down the sideline, Like he wants
to throw to the outside more so than a lot
of rookie quarterbacks do. So it's really kind of a
fascinating like clash of styles. The Ravens, you know, and
the Ravens on offense like to go through the middle

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of the field.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know, that's where Lamar is most comfortable.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
So two very different quarterbacks in that respect in terms
of where on the field they like to throw deepro
what do you expect out of both McLaurin and also
who would be your fade.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I think m lauren's gonna have a good game, But
you know, I understand playing devil's advocate here because you know,
we want to pick somebody that everybody's probably high on
for this segment. And while I don't have the cold
water to throw on McLaurin, I do have a guy
to throw cold water on. I think the easy name
here for is Brian Robinson. Considering the Ravens their their

(23:49):
secondary has been bad. Their run defense remains elite. They're
allowing the fewest rushing yards per game right now for
the lowest explosive run rates. So Brian Robinson Junior for me,
would be the low hanging fruit. But I'll bring them
save Flowers here, considering I know the Commander's secondary is
not amazing. They are playing better, But the case to

(24:10):
be made against say Flowers is simply Baltimore runs it
down their throat. Derrick Henry has a smash game. They
don't have to throw a bunch. Washington might. But again
that's the way that Zay Flowers. If he fails this week,
it's because Lamar gets done on the ground, and so
does Derrick Henry, and there's not much scoring, much less

(24:30):
like negative game script to be had.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, it's a good point.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
If you look at these two teams, like both can
throw the ball, both can run the ball, both are
not great against the pass. The one unit that is
kind of like really built to stop the other is
the Ravens run defense. It's the one point where they're
not kind of on the same level between these two
teams right now, at least through five weeks. So I'm
really curious toe how that pans out. We talked about
this a bit on the Thursday show Debro, so I'm

(24:55):
curious to get your opinion. You know, what the Commanders
have done has been really like particularly in the running game.
And obviously it's such a huge benefit to have a
guy like Jayden Daniels that makes just everything easier in
the running game. Do you think the Ravens defense, I mean,
nobody has faced a mobile quarterback more than the Ravens
defense have in practice in the last half dozen years.
Do you think that gives them an advantage over a

(25:16):
team like you know, the Commanders in a quarterback like
Jayden and Daniels, not that they're the exact same player,
but just they're not going to be shell shocked by
seeing a quarterback who's crazy fast and crazy athletic because
they see it every day.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I think in the way of, like, you know, setting
a QB spy handling the rushing utility, I believe so.
But I also think there's something to be said. And
I'm not tossing shade at Lamar here. I love Lamar,
but I think there's something to be said also for
Jayden Daniels' ability as a passer. And if we want
to talk about who the better passer is, I think

(25:51):
you can make a case for Jade Daniels. So I
think there's a lot of similarities there as far as
the rushing utility. But I still think that there's a
lot of differences there because I know it sounds like
I'm being hyperbolic. I know Lamar's is a multip but
we're not. We're not doing Devil's Advocate anymore. Okay, you
don't need to make something up. I'm not making anything up. Man.
Anybody push back against me. How does Jane Daniels not

(26:12):
an amazing passer? And you can make the case he's
a better passer than Lamar.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Jane Daniels is really good. I don't think he's a
better passor than Lamar.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Well, of course you're not going to say it. I
would like to hear.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I'm allowed to have opinions. There you are, But are
you allowed to have opinions.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
That are non pro ram But my opinion of that
a rookie who's played five games is not a better
passer than a two time NFL MVP.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I don't think it's because of being a homer.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
But Daniels is really good. That's not to fake Daniels
like he's he's he's better than I expected.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I will.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I will say that like full stop, like very definitively.
This is a really fun game. Like I said, we're
kind of fading just to paint the narrative, but like
start everybody in this game. The total is fifty one
and a half. Do you guys like the over of
the under fits?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (26:57):
I never like betting totals. I never go over with
totals over fifty. Just too many ways for it to
be short circuited. You know, someone goes in a long
eighty r driving then fumbles at the three yard line,
and all of a sudden, the over is looking horrible.
So I just I tend not to bet any NFL
game over if it's got a total fifty or higher.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, I'm with it's a year. I think there are
easy paths to this game scoring a lot and still
hitting the under, and that just the easiest. The way
that this game fails is just straight up from play volume.
Washington's not running fast as an offense Baltimore. Look, if
you give him a chance to slow down and run
the ball with Derrick Henry, they will do that. So

(27:36):
I think that's the easy path to an underhere.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Life's too short to take the under.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
This is the most fun matchup of the week. It's
the most fun quarterback matchup of the week. I don't
care what the number is. Just take the over, because
I mean, if you're sitting there and this is like
a thirty eight to thirty five game on Sunday afternoon
during the witching hour, you're gonna be kicking yourself, like
obviously it is. He's the two best offenses in football
to degree this season. All right, let's go to the
next question. We went a little long on that one.
Cardinals at Packers Doantavian Wicks fits he let everybody down

(28:04):
in week five was the most popular kind of we
have a wire pickups start right away, auto smash guy
of the week didn't pan out or going back to
that well in week six.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
It depends.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Is Romeo Dobbs going to play and more important, is
Christian Watson gonna play? It It sounds as if Dobbs
will play, you know, suspended for a game after going
a wall from practice a week ago. He is back
at practice. Christian Watson also back at practice rather unexpected.
Deebro and I were talking about this before the show.
We both tend to think he's going to not come back.

(28:39):
And even if Dobbs and Watson both play, Wicks is
going to get some snaps, but he's probably not going
to have the sort of snaphare he would have if
Watson was out. The last two games, Wicks has played
around seventy five percent seventy six percent of the offensive
snaps when everyone is healthy for the Packers a wide receiver,

(28:59):
he's been close sort of fifty percent, So that's kind
of important, just you know, like more opportunities. Obviously, I've
got him just inside the top thirty a wide receiver
as of now, but if Watson plays, I'll probably have
Wis closer to mid thirties late.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Thirties in the wide receiver rankings.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, we have this new tool, the are they Playing
tool on Fantasy Pros. It does give a pretty decent
chance for Christian Watson. That's just based on seeing limited
practice both day, you know, Wednesday and Thursday. That's all
the information we have as at the time we're recording this,
So it gives it. It gives Watson about an eighty
one percent chance of playing. I want to see what
happens Friday before I kind of really operate under the
assumption that Watson will be playing. I tend to lean

(29:41):
towards him not Our tool does disagree with that, though, Deebra,
what are you doing with Wis this weekend? And let's
say let's assume that Watson doesn't play, because I think
if Watson plays and Dobbs on the field, like I think,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Really much of a question at all.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Agree, But let's let's assume that the pat is there
again similar to the way it was in Week five.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Are you starting to don Davian Wickx this way?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I am starting Dontavian Wicks, and I agree with FITZI.
I don't think Watson plays this week. I think the
tool will project more in that direction. Considering the other
part about it is, and this is, you know, the
tool is built off of AI and the and the
data and things like that. We also had to factor
in that the Packers are conservative with injuries. So because

(30:22):
he's practicing and stuff like that, things that you know
can be captured and can't be captured. I do think
the Green Bay usually leans a little bit more on
the conservative side. So I think that Watson doesn't play.
So looking at Wicks, I think this is the floplag game.
I think this is the game that we thought we
were getting last week with Dantavian Wicks, that we get
it this week. And so right now I've got Dantavian

(30:43):
Wicks as a mind wide receiver twenty four and rankings.
I understand everybody got burned. The other thing about it
is if he converts that what was it, FITZI, a
fifty three yarder that maybe he takes for a touchdown.
If he converts that last week, then everybody is singing
praises and the Dantavian Wicks narrative is totally different. So

(31:03):
one play making that big of a difference between everybody
being like, Ah, yeah, why you told me to start
him versus Oh, I'm so glad I started him. Yay,
he had a good game. Like I'm not gonna push back,
like I'm not gonna go too far in one direction
about saying Wicks had a terrible game, because there were
other factors that led to that game, ie the Rams

(31:26):
changing up their entire cornerback rotation and then playing better
because of it. So how we were projecting that game
versus how it ran out is different, And there are
some factors that even you know we're projecting. We're looking
at numbers and stuff. Teams do things and change things up. Obviously,
when you're a bottom three pass defense, you need to

(31:48):
And looking at this match of this week, I don't
care that the Cardinals can roll out whoever they want
to at cornerback, pull a practice squad guy, take sign
free eight, do whatever you want to. Even their current starters,
none of them can hang with these Packers wide receivers.
They're all not great. So I think this is the
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Speaker 1 (33:52):
All right, guys, let's go to Texans Patriots. The Drake
May Era kicks off this Sunday. How does this impact
the Patriots? For fantasy purposes? Is May himself playable if
you're desperate?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Debro May is not playable. And I know that people
are gonna hate that. Like I just I can't say
this clear enough. I cannot stand what the Patriots are
doing to Drake May in this matchup. I cannot stand
the fact that after five weeks and we have proven
that the offense is not good enough, the scheme is
not good enough, and the offensive line is not good

(34:24):
enough to support a conducive environment for Ricky quarterback. After
five weeks of proof, this is a bad team in
a bad situation. This is the week that the Patriots
decide they're going to start Drake May when they have
fielded an offensive line that has allowed the second highest
pressure rate and the sixth lowest time to pressure, and

(34:47):
you face a Houston d line that is fourth and
pressure rate. All I can say is good luck for
Drake May. I'm sorry that the Patriots are doing this
to you. I'm sorry to the fan base that this
is happening. And this lowers the floor and ceiling for
every skill player in this offense right now. And this
is not a hate against Drake May. This is a

(35:09):
terrible matchup and he is being put into a horrible situation.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I fully agree. I love Drake May the player, and
I'm really excited about his future. I do not understand
picking this game as the one like it. Really, I'm
not the first person to say this, but really just
feel like they just kind of succumb to fan pressure that.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Works out well for rookie quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
You know, I think it's a bad decision, Like I really,
I really don't don't get it fits.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
What do you think is this scenario?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Where are we downplaying like this is a really talented
guy and maybe he does help some of these skilled
players and make a move the needle at least on fantasy,
even if not make them all superstars. Or are we
just kind of fading everything here.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I am not nearly as aggrieved about the decision to
plug May into the lineup as you guys are. I
know our friend Matt Harmon had a long rant about this,
like there is no perfect time. I mean, you could
give him an entire red shirt rookie year, but I
don't think the Patriots were ever going to take the
Packers plan on that the Packers always had Brett Farvar
Aaron Rodgers to have the luxury of red shirting their

(36:08):
rookie quarterback, and obviously with Jacoby Burssett, Patriots kind of
want to speed up the timetable a little bit. As
for starting him, I don't think it would be completely
crazy to plug Drake May into your lineup, and in fact,
in the Fantasy pros Content team league, I am going
to be starting Drake May against the Welsh this week
because I really cut corners at the quarterback position. Look,

(36:30):
May's passing numbers against the Texans probably are not going
to be pretty, and I agree like I do not
want to start to Mario Douglas, Jalen poll, Can Hunter,
Henry any pass catcher for the Patriots. But Drake May
is a willing and able runner, and we saw that
at the University of North Carolina, where in his two
seasons as a starter, he averaged eleven point four rushing

(36:52):
attempts per game and forty four point one rushing yards
per game. And bear in mind that in the college game,
sack yardage counts again a quarterback's rushing yardage, so he
probably would have been up over fifty rushing yards a game.
A rookie quarterback making his first start in the NFL
is going to be confused by a lot of what

(37:12):
he sees. Like he's gonna see coverages that just completely
flummex him. Easiest thing for him to do is just
tuck the ball away and run. And while it's highly
doubtful that May is going to get two hundred passing
yards in this game, I could see him going for
forty or fifty rushing yards easily. And in fact, like
I have hammered, hammered rushing overs on Drake May, if

(37:34):
he rushes for like twelve yards, I'm gonna be eating
Chef boyard out.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Of the can on Monday morning. Boys.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
So but if it's a fifty yard rushing day for
Drake May, Lobster Thermidor on Monday, you're gonna you're gonna.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Get paid well done.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, I mean, I get I get your point about
like there's no perfect time to do this. At the
same time, I look in this three week stretch Miami, Houston, Jacksonville,
why pick Houston? Like, if you wanted to start him
right around this, you know, in this kind of first
half of October, I'd much rather he started against Miami
or Jacksonville than the Texans defense.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I guess this is all my point.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
It just seems like a particularly difficult one going up
against Amiko Ryans. But maybe I love the player, so
maybe he will surprise and be good. I want to
go to the next question because it's basically the same
one the Spencer Rattler era kicks off this Sunday. How
does this impact the Saints for fantasy purposes? Is Rattler
himself playable if you're desperate? So basically the same question

(38:34):
before a different rookie quarterback fits, I'll start with.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You this time.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Yeah, I'm worried here, and I like Rattler and took
him in a couple of Dynasty rookie drafts in the spring,
but I think his debut could be pretty rough, even
against a Buccaneers pass defense that was completely frickasied by
the Atlanta Falcons the last time we saw them. Rattler
did not probably did not get the same sort of

(38:58):
reps in training camp Drake May would have gotten because
Drake May was the clear and obvious succession plan in
New England, whereas Rattler was, you know, kind of brought in.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I think just.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Basically to back up Derek Carr this year. So I
have Rattler ranked QB twenty seven out of twenty eight
starting quarterbacks, sorry A M.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
O'Connell.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
And I have Chris o Lave and Rashid Shaheed ranked
his wide receiver fours this week. And I've I have
Alvin Kamara like I'm docking him. I've got him outside
the top five at running back. I'm just not optimistic
about the Saints offense this week.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Rattler did say that he wants to pepper Chris Lave
with targets, which you know, the volume could be enough
to keep a lot of higher than that, as long
as the level of plays reaches at least a bare minimum.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
He's not doing seven on seven's in practice. Man, this
is going to be a different story.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
They are.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
By the way, Drake may and Spencer Ratler are back
to back in ECR QB twenty six and QB twenty seven,
so they're both right there in our Fantasy Pro only
our staff rankings. Bo Nicks separates the two goes May
Nix then Rattler in QB twenty five, QB twenty six,
QB twenty seven deeper. What do you think about Ratler
in terms of what you expect that of him this
week and what he could mean for guys like Shaheeda Lave.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I'm just gonna sound like the wet blanket for both
these rookie quarterbacks. I just I don't really understand why
you're starting Rattler over Jake Hayner, who is the backup
last week and went into the game. It feels like
a front office thing like I don't know why Jake
Hayner doesn't get the start, but because again, like Rattler's

(40:34):
probably had hardly any practice time, go back to training camp,
working as the QB three on the roster, he's gotten
no reps, and all of a sudden, like you're gonna
give him what starter reps starting early this week and
think that's gonna really catch him up and build rapport
with these wide receivers. Now, I I it's rough man.
I'm with FITZI on this one. And before kirk Cousins

(40:57):
diced up this secondary, we have to understand that before
that game, this secondary allowed the fourth lowest passer rating
in CPOE and the fifth lowest arts per attempt. So
kirk Cousins changing massively, changing the math there for how
the Buccaneers pass defense looks for the entire season, as

(41:18):
far as season long stats really has to get brought up.
And Todd Bowles loves to blitz everybody eighth highest blitz rate.
You're telling me he's not going to turn up the
heat and blitz the ever loving crap out of Spencer
Rattler behind a banged up offensive line. Again, this is
if I'm the Bucks. You blitz the ever living hell
out of him, You stop the run, and you force

(41:40):
Spencer Rattler to beat you, and I don't see it happening.
So yes, I'm with FITZI I'm dropping. Shaheed and o'
lobby are going to be in that wide receiver three
slash four area code. I think that both of them
can get volume, but again we have to go back
to the target quality that they're going to receive. I
don't know if the volume is going to be enough

(42:01):
to overcome that.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Can I go ahead? Oh?

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Sorry, let me add one more thing about this game,
like Taysom Hill dealing with fractured ribs. I know he's
listed as questionable for this game. If he plays, I
want to use him at TID because I think they
will give him a lot of work if he is
able to suit up for this one, like he would
be inside my tight end one range if he plays.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
That's actually kind of along the lines with what I
was going to follow up with, which is, what are
you doing with just the running game in general for
the Saints. Do you think that, you know, the Bucks
defense is going to be so owned in on the
running game that it's going to be very difficult for
you know, guys like Kamara to do anything or are
you still kind of ranking him because he's gonna be
so much volume you'd think with a rookie quarterback in
his first start.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
I mean, I'm docking him.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I've got him RB seven, but there's under no circumstances,
am I sitting Alvin Camara?

Speaker 6 (42:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I Where where's he at? An worm? Because I can
tell you I'm definitely gonna below consensus.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
He's like three or four.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I want to go he's at four.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
We got him an RB ten right now. I think
with the workload he still deserves, you know, And actually
that's a little bit too kind to him. I'm gonna
drop him the RB a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
And by the way, we're giving him an eighty one
percent chance to play on the are they playing tool
with his hip injury limited practice on?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
In the rankings, I have Josh Jacobs. I have James
Connor above him, and surprisingly enough because I know this
will probably raise some eyebrows, but the matchup is awesome.
I have Tony Pollard to head up in Kamara this week.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I think that's justifiable given everything. I think you're right,
it will raise eyebrows, but I can see the I
can see the logic there. Let's go to the next question.
Brown's at Eagles coming off the buy. It looks like,
as of the last time I looked at practice reports,
Philly was going to be getting back its top two
receivers in AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith. Where are we
ranking those guys plus Jalen Hurts with the Eagles returning

(43:50):
something closer to full strength? I mean, I'm something we're
starting them, obviously, but how aggressively are we ranking these
guys in their first game back?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Deepro Jalen Hurts is QB three, behind only Lamar and
Jaydeon Daniels. I've got AJ Brown as a where are
you at?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
AJ? Brown?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I got them at wide receiver five for the week,
and Devonte Smith is at tighten nineteen. I think the
only player out of that passing game that I'm worried
about are fading because of the matchup and both their
star receivers being back this week is Dallas Goddard. So
Goddart is probably going to be just because of the
state of the position, a low end tightened one. But

(44:28):
I'm not really high on his prospects this week. But
all the rest of the guys, I mean, we shouldn't
be scared of the Cleveland Brown's defense at this point.
Their offense Kansas Saint drives, They're going to be out
there a ton, Their cornerbacks are kind of banged up.
I think this is a really good, sneaky, get right
spot for the Philly offense.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I would pretty much like to avoid Goddard if it's
at all possible. Just whenever Brown and Smith are both
on the field generally fits.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
What are you doing with the passing game? Kind of
all systems go here?

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Yep, this as usual. Jalen Hurts QB three, A J.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Brown wide receiver five and Devontai Smith wide receiver nineteen
a perfect match with Debra. Did they still have that worm.
Is that totally opaque reference for you? The newlywed game where.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
The translucent reference.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I am satly aware of it, but it's I've never
watched it.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Okay, yeah, they the newlyweds had to match answers they
what they were asked a series of questions do they
know their spouses?

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
You know, and like had to see if they match correctly.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I feel like I've been.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I feel like I've been to like weddings and rehearsal
dinners where they do variations of it between the couple
and everybody watches, but I have not watched the.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Actual very nice word translucent by the way, give you.

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and that level of sick was usually I was like
falling asleep in my bed and passing out all day
if I was there.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
So you never pulled the thermometer on the light bold
trick form never know, No.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I really liked it.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I like never wanted to miss school, and if I did,
it was because I was actually feeling really unwell. My
dad's a teacher, so like that was just kind of
ingrained in me. I guess, but I you know.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
You see your friends at school, like, I think school
gets a batter. I think school's kind.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Of your parents ran a very very efficient booth camp. Okay,
you will be a sports media guide, you will go
to school, and you will like it.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I'm not sure they still to this day understand what
I do for a living. So maybe not the sportsman.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Considering everything, like you you tweet.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
And talk about football and somebody actually pays you for it.
This is like a side gig, right, Like, no, no,
this is this is the job. Let's go to the
next question here, Chargers at Broncos. Are the Chargers worth
starting against what has been one of the best, you know,
maybe the best defense in the NFL so far the season,
or any Chargers were starting in this one coming off
there by debro JK.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Dobbins ish, I just he's a flex play, a low
end RB two probably, I mean really an RB three,
but I mean he's in play only because of the volume,
but outside of that, knew you're sitting all your chargers
this week.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
What do you think fits?

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Yeah? Where am I going to give you credit?

Speaker 4 (49:35):
You were ahead of the curve on this a few
weeks ago when you sort of recognize that the Broncos
is having one of the best defenses in the NFL,
and I was kind of I lightly pushed back and said, like, yeah,
let's see a few more games before we declare that.
I'm ready to declare that Vance Joseph has just done
a fantastic job with this unit.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
But there are two chargers.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
I think I would be willing to start j Dobbins,
and as Debro mentioned, purely volume play. I've got him
RB eighteen. But yes, the Broncos ranks sixth in DVOA
against the run and have a lot of the tenth
fewest Fantasy points to running backs. But Dobbins has averaged
seventeen point seven touches a game over his last three games,

(50:17):
so that's a pretty safe volume floor to at least
get him as in your lineup as a flexer a
RB two, And then I would be willing to play
Lad McConkie, Like if the Broncos have shut down cornerback
Patrick certain Junior follow Quinton Johnston around, Justin Herbert might
look to take advantage of the easier matchup, not necessarily

(50:39):
an easy matchup, bit easier for McConkie against Broncos slot
corner g Jikwan McMillan, who's yielding a seventy percent catch
rate and zero point twenty seven Fantasy points per route
into his coverage according to PFF.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yeah, Deebra, what do you think about Lad McConkie this week.
I typically like rookie receivers coming off their bye week,
you know, especially talented, like kind of high level rookie receivers,
So that's appealing to me. What do you think about
the matchup for McConkey.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I think the matchup's fine. I think looking at McConkie,
he's going to get the most volume out of any
of these guys especially, and it's tough to know who
that the Broncos are going to stick certain on. My
guess would be Quentin Johnston, but again that's that's you know,
they give Johnston enough respect, they might just not shadow
anybody but you have to also. I mean, either way

(51:30):
it goes, you're going to bump down both those guys
because either Palmer or Johnston is going to get shadow
coverage or at least have to deal with certain for
half the game. So I do think the target volume
is there for mconkey. So I mean it's a good call.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Buff.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
It's like just straight up in a PPR league, He's
going to get the volume if he scores, Bro, especially
if they're a negative game script, then yeah, he could
pay off.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Let's go to that Lions Cowboys game I mentioned earlier.
Sam Laporta was tight end one in our expert consensus
draft rankings this season. He's You've been tight end eighteen
on a per game basis so far, and if you
take out week one, it's even worse, tight end thirty
one per game on the season since Week two. That's
behind Mark Andrews. Even coming out of Detroit's bye week.

(52:13):
Are we gonna finally see Sammy ballgame get going again? Deebro,
I'll start with you as the Laporta guy.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I could see an okay game for him. I don't
think it's a smash spot for him. I mean, Dallas
versus tight ends. Yeah, you could make a case. Okay,
they've allowed or they're tied for the fourth most receiving touchdowns,
but over the middle of the field that can easily
be on on Ros Saint Brown time their sixteenth and
yards per reception. I think it's an oka matchup, but

(52:40):
I don't think it's a smash matchup. Like I think
Laporta is probably somewhere in that mid to low end
tight end one range this week, So I don't think
this is like the get right spot for Sammy ballgame.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
One of our player debates debro on the Thursday show
was Sam Laporta versus Tucker Kraft.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Who would you like in that one?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Geez, I'll take Craft in that one. But I think
it's close. I think they're in the same area code.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
They're back to back in ECR tight end five and
tight ends.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, I got I've got Craft as tight end five
and I got Laporta's tight end six right now.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah. Fits.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
We talked a bit about this when we talked about
Laportera versus Craft, but like even setting the Craft part
of the equation aside, like, do you think this could
be the week where we see Laporta get going again.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
I don't know, worm it's weird. He is averaging three
point five targets a game and Laporta has not seen
more than five targets in any game this season. A
part of it is that Ben Johnson just wants to
run the ball on people's throat this year. He is
not messing around. And in the Lions three wins, they're
three and one. In the three wins, they're only averaging

(53:47):
twenty three pass attempts. So like, if they get a lead,
they are running the ball. And they are road favorites
against the Cowboys, so if they get a lead here,
probably not going to see a lot of passing volume
four GoF So as of now, I've got Laporter ranked
higher than Craft. I've got him tight end five and
Craft tight end six. I think I'm gonna flip flop
those two.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
But who knows.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Maybe maybe the Cowboys will perk up Sam Laporta because
when he faced the Cowboys last year he had a
season high twelve targets, seven catches for eighty four yards.
So I don't know, maybe he'll see that Dallas star
and get fired up.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
The other factor here is if Dallas gets drawn bland
back this week. I don't think that he plays in
this game, but if he does play in this game,
that also would push some volume to Sam Laporta in
a wait. But because again avoiding the outside corners for Dallas,
it blained his back.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Do you think, Debro, that we've discussed enough in this
first month of the season the disappointment Sam Laporta has been.
I feel like a lot of conversation has been tight
end is a disappointment. Oh, you shouldn't have gotten early
on tight end because of guys like Mark Andrews and
Kelsey and also Sam Laporta. I feel like there hasn't
been like Laporta was number one tight end in most
people's rankings. I know it wasn't for years u a

(55:03):
Trade McBride, but in general he was the consensus tight
end one like with a bullet, like by a mile.
And he's he hasn't just been a disappointment relative to
that standing. He's been downright bad again tight end thirty
one since week two on a per game basis. So
are we like kind of discussing enough what a level
of disappointment? I mean, not that he's fallen off a

(55:23):
Cliff in his career. He's still so young, it's only
a second year player. But it's been really bad compared
to what we expected.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
It has been, and I think some of the Sam
Laporta as far as like the being the letdown, I
think that has gotten lost in the conversation because I
think all the spotlight, and deservedly so, I think instead
of so much of the attention on Detroit being on
Sam Laporta being a letdown for fantasy, I think instead
of us talking about that and that being leading the conversation,

(55:53):
we've been giving a lot more shine to Jamison Williams
and his I mean, he's in the midst of a
breakout season, so I think that it's it's twofold. I
think the JMO breakout season is what has hurt Sam
Laporta immensely. But also we haven't discussed that enough because
we've been giving so much shine to Jamo. But honestly, rightfully.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
So.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Before we get to the key question for Sunday Nights matchup,
I want to ask you guys about your Uber Eats
Sunday Night Meals of the Week debro. What must Order
food gets you reaching for your Uber Eats app for
great game day deals. When you think of New York.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
I think Fitzie and I might be handholding on this one,
but for good reason. It's the one oh one, dude.
And I don't care if this is breakfast. I don't
care if it's brinner. It's gotta be bagels, and it's
gotta be cream cheese and smoke locks on. There's I mean,
I think this is easy.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Fitz Yeah, I mean a bagel with cream, cheese and
locks from a New York deli is an A plus
breakfast for sure, but also another a plus option from
a New York deli. And my my dad's from New York.
So I was introduced to this by my grandfather. The
pastrami sandwich in a good New York deli. I mean,
the first time I ever went into a deli with

(57:08):
my grandpa ordered asami sandwich at his urging, I could
hear angels singing.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
That's actually a great call, because I'm not a big
pastrami guy, but I did. I went to Kat's Delicatessen
when I was in New York many years ago, and
you know, I had to go for kind of that
classic pastami style and it.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Was it was very good.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I'm not a cream cheese and locks guy. I'm just
a cream cheese and that's it guy on my bagels,
which are good. But guys, the ANSWER's pizza. It's New
York style pizza. It's it's far superior to Chicago style
deep dish style pizza barely qualifies as pizza fits you
are a Midwest guy, what's your take on New York
versus Chicago pizza?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Well, New York pizza is amazing and like, there's no comparison.
But look, the Chicago deep dish like that is trash.
But Chicago tavern style thin crossed. Chicago tavern style thin
cross is fantastic, but the dishes casts are all man.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It's only the last couple of years I learned that
there even is such a thing as like Detroit style pizza.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Like all these Midwest cities have their own.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Still, the sauce goes on top of the cheese. Detroit
style is good. It's it's got a real like caramelized crust.
It's actually really tasty. I will odd.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Intrigued.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
We're going to be in Las Vegas early next year, Debro.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
I will take you to a place that serves some
mean Detroit style pizza. You will be done done thanking
me done.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
So there, there you have it. Our Uber Eats Sunday
Night meals of the week. We've got bagels, we've got
pastrami sandwiches, and we've got classic New York style pizza.
Uber Eats has the best game day deals all season long.
Order now for game day guys this Sunday night. The
reason we talked about New York it's Bengals at Giants.
We did get word and it was kind of trending

(58:57):
this direction anyway, but we got word during this recording
Neighbors is going to miss another game with the concussion.
So quickly before we get into my key question for
the game, like the rest of season, are you guys
starting to get a little concerned about just how long
this is taking or once he's back, you know he'll
be back and you're not gonna.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Be worried at all.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
To you, bro, I'm not worried at all. I think
the concussions and this kind of speaks to the severity
of some Once these guys start ramping up, then you
can kind of see symptoms kind of come back. I
think this is more of Okay, he's out this week.
I think that he returned to practice is good, so
I project that he will be back for next week.
So and again, this is kind of one of those

(59:37):
things like once they clear concussion symptoms. I mean, guys
are full ramped up, playing one hundred percent. So I'm
not willing to kind of dock the resk of He's
an outlook for elite neighbors right now.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Same optimism fits.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Yeah. Same.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
I'm bummed out about it because I have my Milik
neighbors on a ton of teams. But I'm also not
going to be the old man who gets mad at
Melik neighbors for having gone to a Travis Scott concert
the other night, and.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Like, what's he doing? He's got a concussion, why is
he going to concerts?

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Yeah, I mean, like, didn't expect him to miss two
games after getting the concussion in a Thursday night game.
But you know, hopefully we see him back in week seven.
I think we will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
It's it's like in Seinfeld, when Elaine sees David Putty,
She's like, but I broke up with him, and Jerry's like,
and yet he continues to live like, yo, oh, he
had a concussion, and yet he continues to go out
and lose.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
It's fine Steinfeld again. I don't know if I've ever
heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Can't do this again, Debra, we don't. We don't have
time to correct you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
And all your wrongness.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
The actual question I wanted to ask about the Giants.
We had quite the coming out party for Tyro and
Tracy Junior in Week five. The Bengals run defense did
do pretty well against Derrick Henry all things considered, until
that long run in overtime, but they pretty much bottled
him up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
You know, up until that point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Do we think Tracy can take advantage of what had
been a pretty poor rush defense in the prior four
weeks before that Week five performance against Henry deebro, what
do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I mean either one of these I think Singletary is
is trending the play and whoever is going to be
the Giants starting running back, so Singletary's back, I think
he gets the same roll back or if it's Tracy.
Either one of these guys are going to be definitely
a top twenty four play, but looking at my rankings
right now, probably a top fifteen play because the matchup

(01:01:20):
is fantastic, and yes, this really just comes down to it. Okay,
right now, if you want to stop Baltimore, try to
stop Baltimore, you stop the run. The Giants are passing
the ball better than Baltimore is, and I think there's
more to be said about, you know, the duplicity of
that offense. So I'm not saying Daniel Jones is playing

(01:01:40):
quarterback better than Lamar, but I think that there are
more weapons or ways to try to stop or it's
harder to stop the Giants right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
So you, like you, I think Singletary comes back because
he is trending that way for sure. Eighty six percent
chance to play on our Are they playing tool?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Do you?

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
You don't think like the kind of the cats out
of the back with Tracy and like they're going to
need to keep giving him more work.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
You think like it'll just go back to Singletary.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I think it's I mean, it's a veteran who's played
really really well as the starter. It's not like he
was struggling. He has been good yet and I don't
think that, you know, regardless of if you want to
talk about Okay, a guy is not going to lose
his job due to injury and coming back to this
and he had to clear workhorse role. If he's healthy
enough to play, I think he gets the roll back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yep. What do you think about Tracy this week? Fits well?

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
I mean I do think that after maybe Singletary was
operating as sort of this like underrated workhorse early in
the season, maybe now they do carveoute a role for
Tyrone Tracy every week. And certainly they're not going to
kick Singletary to the curb because he and Brian Dable
have this long history going back to their days in
Buffalo together. But I'm ranking Singletary RB twenty four and

(01:02:48):
Tracy RB thirty eight, and I'm really excited by what
we saw from Tyrone, Tracy and Deebro. I know he
was a guy you liked a lot coming out of
Purdue this year for a guy who only made the
switch from wide receiver to running back a couple of
years ago. Like he was decisive with his running last
week in Seattle and also ran really powerfully, forced four

(01:03:12):
missed tackles last week, had fifty six rushing yards after contact,
and finished with forty seven rushing yards over expected in
that game. According to Next gen stats, So really impressive performance.
I do think he is going to have some sort
of role going forward. And yeah, I'm pretty excited about
what we saw from Tyrone Tracy last week.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, it was. It was definitely if you compared his college,
that was the biggest or one of the biggest knocks
that I had him about him as a prospect was
he just looked like a guy who was still learning
to adjust to the position, like trusting your blocks, following
your blocks, the vision, things like that, and Dave Ball
talked about that in the postgame presser. So we've really
been working on him with again playing running back and

(01:03:55):
so seeing not only as decisive as he was, but
the vision improved for Tree, which that's what you want
to see. Like he needs reps and he's gotten reps
and they've worked on it a lot. So he was
very impressive last week.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
We'll move to our final question here before we do,
I do want credit for not taking the bait on
Debro's ludicrous statement that the Giants passing game without Molik
Neighbors is somehow more threatening than Baltimore's passing game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So I want credit that I didn't bring that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Okay, I mean I quarterbacks, you know, going through dropbacks,
going through progressions, doing more than you know, operating in
a Todd Monkin screen only offense. I'll make that bet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, that's how the Ravens beat the Bengals with screens only.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Let's go to Bill's at Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Josh Allen has been either QB one or QB nineteen
or lower in every week this season, no in between.
Which Allen are we getting in Week six against a
Jets defense that now has a new coach with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Robert Sala outfits.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
I'll start with you here, oh man, Josh Allen was
so hard to rank this week. I initially slotted him
like QB five or QB six, but now I've got
him all the way down at QB nine. It's just
he does not have enough weapons in the passing game
right now. If Khalil shakirro doesn't play, and it looks
like he's probably not gonna play, Dalton Kin Kate has
been disappointing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Just isn't doing anything after the catch at all.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
It seems I would love to see Keon Coleman get
more snaps out of the slot.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
I'm just I'm begging for Keon Coleman big slot usage,
and they're just lining him up outside and having him
run this really limited rowtree, which is just disappointing to see.
Then it's Mac Hollins, Curtis, Samuel Marquezveldez Scantling yuck. So
plus it's a tough defensive matchup. I mean, we know
the Jets have cornerbacks who can really cover, so Alan

(01:05:43):
is going to have to do some damage as a
runner to put up Fantasy numbers this week. You know, like,
I think you're starting him, but man, my expectations are lowered.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
What do you think Debro again QB one or QB
nineteen or worse?

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
In every game I'm over here squeaking, as Fitz tells
me is ranking because again we're we have not compared
this and we have not talked about this prior, but
we are hand holding. He is QB nine in my ranks,
I think low end QB one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
And you want to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Talk about weapons, and really, I mean it's multiple things.
It's not only Okay, Shakir is banged up, probably doesn't play.
It's the usage of this offense. James Cook is also
banged up and maybe doesn't play. So you know, downgrading
the weapons as well as a tough matchup as well
as the way the Buffalo wins this game is by

(01:06:33):
running the ball. So yes, Josh Allen and the legs
and the rushing utility necessitates that he still remain at
QB one, but I'm not high on his passings prospects
this week. He really needs to get a rushing touchdown
maybe two to probably still be a QB one this week.

(01:06:53):
And that's I know that's tough for Bill's fans to hear,
but it's the reality.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Let's wrap up with quick where you are you making
him rest of season? Not just for this week, but
in your rest of season rankings. Josh Allen is QB
what debro huh?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Right now, I've got to make QB three. I like
the only two guys I've got over him A Lamar
and Jane Daniels. But I think like you can, you
can make the case that Josh Allen could be a
mid or low end QB. Like if you were to
tell me he was QB seven or QB eight, and
people's ranks and they had Jamen Hurt, c. J. Stroud,

(01:07:29):
Joe Burrow, Jordan Love just to name a few I
wouldn't push back at all about that, so I think
it's just it's fluid, you know. I think the other
thing that we haven't discussed here is what if DeVante
Adams gets traded at the Buffalo. I don't think we
can truly rule that out, and I think that would
change the the math here massively for Josh Allen rest

(01:07:51):
of season.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
It's the same question rest of season for Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I have him QB two right now, behind only Lamar Jackson.
But Jadan Daniels versus Josh Allen is a really interesting debate.
And right now I'm giving Josh Allen. I'm practicing veteran
deference here, but I don't know if that's the right call.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
All Right, we'll wrap up there fun stuff today. Thank
you everybody for tuning in for our Week six preview.
Best of luck in your matchups this week. For fits
and Debro, I'm Ryan Warmley, and we'll see everybody again
next week. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy
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