Colin is joined by Cowboys insider and Fox Sports columnist Matt Mosley.
They start with the surprisingly hot start for Dak Prescott and the Cowboys offense and debate what the secret sauce has been for America’s team (3:00). Colin doubles down on his take that trading Micah Parsons was the right long-term move for the Cowboys but Mosley pushes back that the defense is now a disaster minus Micah (6:45).
They discuss how the Dallas media treats Jerry Jones now that Mark Cuban sold the Mavericks and is the centerpiece of Dallas sports (11:00), and why Dak has been consistently over-villainized and underrated throughout his career (14:00).
They pivot to college football and Colin argues that Arch Manning taking the heat at Texas has taken the heat off Steve Sarkisian, and Mosley explains why Manning has been subjected to unfair expectations (26:15). Colin also talks about the incredible humility he’s experienced interacting with the Manning family (29:30).
They pivot back to the Parsons trade, and how it played out with the benefit of hindsight and whether it seemed like Jerry bumbled the contract negotiations (33:45). They discuss the disastrous state of the Cowboys defense and Colin throws out the potential of the Cowboys hiring Bill Belichick (54:00).
Finally, they debate why Jason Garrett has remained out of coaching and Colin argues he’d be a great fit in college (1:00:00).
All lines provided by hardrock.bet
(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)
Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates!
#Volume
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now it's time for this week's redeem Team member, brought
to you by Hulu's Chad Powers. This week it's Jake Moody,
the Bears kicker released by the Niners after having a
rough Week one. On Monday, Jake got redemption four field goals,
including the game winner against the Commanders. Chad Powers now
streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on
Disney Plus for bundles subscribers, terms apply. Okay, I haven't
(00:31):
talked to Matt mosey in, a long time host of
the Doomsday Podcast with Ed Werder, but Ed's not here today,
so let's just say Matt's the host and Ed will
have to give you know, deal with all the you
know land mines after this. So, first of all, longtime,
no talk. It's I thought this was a four win team.
I thought Schottenheimer was going to be a disaster, and
(00:53):
yet the offense is cooking with no CD LAMB. They're
rebuilding the old line. Dave Williams looks pretty good. They
don't have a number one receiver. I think Pickens is
more of a two. What is Brian Schottenheimer, who hadn't
interviewed for a head job in a decade and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
What's the secret sauce here? By the way, I mean,
they have CD coming back, so you know, I think
we would agree he's a legit one. He's great. Pickens
playing himself into a big contract. And see, Jerry has
all this room now to deal with, you know, getting
trading Micah. He's got all the cap room in the world,
(01:33):
so Jerry can can move around and do some things.
It really is kind of sad though, because it feels
like it's gonna be wasted. They're gonna win more than
four games, but they're losing games. And this is probably
the best Dak's ever played. This is the most comfortable
he's been. And thinking about what you just said, without CD,
(01:54):
with Pickens in that last game, without even a run game,
I mean, you know, Bobby Brown from Texas A and M,
the fifth year player out A and M and whoever
else Carolina was lining lining up, you could name them all,
Colin they were. I mean, they had Juvante bottled up
and still that was fine, and they're scoring thirty points
a game, and they had one hiccup and that was
(02:16):
in Chicago, and they had a really bad outing against
Caleb in Chicago. But maybe Ben Johnson is turning that
thing around. But this is a real this is but
the offense is great. It looks so much better honestly
than even McCarthy because they're just more inventive. They're getting
more people involved. Their running game looks better, like what
(02:37):
they're doing with their tight ends. I mean, think about that.
Ferguson didn't have a touchdown all of last season. I
only get a single touchdown, he said, like four in
the last four weeks. But he's on a roll. And
then you know he's doing for Pickens what Romo used
to do for the La Run Robinson's and you know, remember,
oh miles they had, I mean they've they've had some
(02:59):
Miles Austin. You know, Romo used to elevate guys, and
Dak's even doing that because Pickens looks incredible and he's
looked like a number one. But I think your four
win I think they'll exceed that, but only Colin because
the NFC East is so bad, Like this thing looks
(03:19):
bad right now and this could have been a year
with a league average defense, Cowboys could have a great
shot of winning this division. That's how bad. The division
looks right now and they're not going to be able
to do it because this defense is horrific and there's
no I don't really see any path foward, like anybody
(03:40):
you could bring in.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What I've said this it's the Shaq Kobe trade. The
Lakers knew for two years Shaq was going to go
to Miami with d Wade and win more than Kobe was.
But in the end it was the right move. I
think I am the only syndicated voice TV or radio
that has said I love moving Dak. Jerry's a deal.
In the last two years. He couldn't pay eight million
(04:02):
dollars for Derrick Henry. You took the oil man and
the maverick and you muted his ability to do any
deals because they were too top heavy. And now Dak
is playing great. So you go in to a draft
next year with two ones and you don't need a quarterback.
Meaning let's say let's say they finish they have the
eighth pick, eighth pick, ninth pick. They could move down
(04:25):
to fifteen, grab another three or a four or five,
rebuild the defense. You know how it works. Defense is
about collisions, is about blowing stuff up. You can walk
in as a pass rusher, as an elite corner or
a linebacker and play as a rookie and have an impact.
I mean, Fred Warner did, Boss do Micah did? You're
(04:45):
not asking a tight end to learn how to block
out a college or a quarterback or an offensive lineman,
where even if you're good, it takes a year. I
think Dallas is going to take those first two draft picks.
They're going to upgrade their defense. They'll have money to
buy another playmaker, Kenny Clark. That's a nice getting that deal.
I think Dallas long term is better without Micah. I
(05:06):
just think you're gonna lose this trade because Green Bay
is gonna win playoff games.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And you're gonna look bad. You're gonna look like.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Kobe with the Lakers waiting to get Gasol shacks in
Miami winning and everybody crushes you for two years. But
in the end, Gasol was the better fit.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, but the quarterback is going to be thirty four
or thirty five years old by the time you're turning
the corner and getting all these picks hit, so you
might have to go get another quarterback too. And you're
so I mean, what's happening right now is they're wasting
a brilliant year. He was second. I mean, I know
we beat up on him, and you have and I
(05:44):
have over the years to a certain extent. He was
number two in the MVP voting just two years ago. Yeah,
twenty twenty three. Does he get hurt too much? Yes?
Does he run the ball anymore? No? But like he's
making right now, he's as effishent. I mean, there's not
a quarterback in the league playing more consistently and throwing
(06:05):
the ball better than Dak right now. Totally, totally, And
I just don't know if they can turn it around
as quickly as you're talking about. And plus what a
deal to do to eber Flus and even Shoty, what
a deal a week before, seven days or five days
before the deal? You trade your one huge defensive playmaker.
(06:25):
And it's not just all they're struggling against the run,
they're struggling against the pass. It's a disaster. It's a disaster.
So while I agree and it's interesting to see what
they do with it, they're going to be on their
third defensive coordinator in three years. Because if eber Flus
continues down this path, this isn't sustainable and they're not
(06:46):
going to give him another season, and so Shoty has
to fire him. I mean, although it's not Shoty's decision.
And again that's where it all comes back to. I mean,
Jerry medals so much he didn't even allow this new
internal candidate to hire his own defense coordinator. I think
ibra Flus was in the building and probably hired before
(07:06):
they'd even finished the deal with Schottenheimer. So again, this
is the backwards dealings of an owner's slash gem. But
I mean, I it'd be great if they could, if
they could turn it and flip it. I mean, they'll
have two first round picks next year. Maybe they find somebody,
But I mean, think about what they're missing right now.
They don't have a decent linebacker. There are two stud
(07:30):
defensive backs. They are two studded cornerbacks that are ninety
million worth ninety million in the contracts combining for about
thirty six to forty million this year, just on this
year's books. Are horrible right now. They don't have anybody's
playing safety. They're playing Donovan Wilson completely out of position.
They don't have a linebacker that can make a tackle.
(07:52):
I mean, it's bad. This is this makes like rob Ronan,
you know, look look almost like he knows what he's doing.
Now you go back to some of those guys they
struggled with. So it's just I guess to me, Colin,
I see what you're saying, and I'll be interested to
see what they're able to build moving forward. But as
(08:13):
I've said to you before, it really is a gut
punch to have lucked into two quarterbacks. Yeah, or twenty
years now. The Green Bay Packers have done it for
thirty Yes, now, I'm not saying they locked into it,
although the trade for far if you can say what
you want, and they got Aaron Rodgers lay it way
later than anybody ever thought Rogers would go in the
(08:34):
first round. But they've had thirty years of great quarterback play.
That boys are entering year twenty of tremendous quarterback play
and have nothing to show for. At least the Packers
have one Super Bowl. At least they can point to
one Super Bowl. Yeah, Cowboys have zero and not even
a NFC title game.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So Dallas, I mean, there's how does the Dallas media.
I mean, now that Mark Cuban has sold the Mavericks.
Jerry is the centerpiece of that city's sports fortunes.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
How does the.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
When he fired Tom Landry, nobody liked him. Then when
he built the Empire, he was a big shot. Then
they got rid of Jimmy and things sag. And how
does the Dallas media treat Jerry Jones? What is it
like in those postgame scrums? How is he treated with.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Reverence, with anxiety with you seen? Have you seen me
behind him in all those scrums? And I have, for
some reason, I have to battle my way back there.
I have to watch it because then later people show
me my facial expressions. I've been around him so long
that I can't like kind of hold it in. I'm
just like, what in the world am I hearing? I
(09:57):
think if anything, people have gotten more or where they're
just kind of they know he's not going to change.
He is entertaining. Nothing's ever going to change. They have
a guy in Will McLay who's a good personnel man.
There's a shot that they hit on these draft picks.
(10:18):
I mean, they hit on a lot of these picks
they've hit on. They they may end up hitting on
I mean every one of their offensive line now when
you ask them to go get a defensive tackle or
sometimes the defensive end, they'll miss they'll miss on some
of that. But no, I think the media is just
at this point going through the motions. They know he's
(10:39):
still the center of everything. It's kind of humorous because
the head coach almost has to kind of I think
they wait to take it is smarter them to do this.
They wait to take the head coach to the podium
until Jerry's thing is finished, because I would when they didn't,
and McCarthy would start before Jerry was finished. McCarthy might
(11:01):
have like five people around him and there would be
forty five to seventy people gathered around Jerry. So that's
what it's all. It's what it will always be, and
Jerry will keep doing this until he's well into his nineties.
All right, he just turned eighty three. I think he
just celebrated his eighty third birthday. But I think I
(11:22):
just think we're just so used to it, and so
there's nothing I mean, And so the head coach and
everybody else has to wait and see what he said,
and then they have to react to whatever he said.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The you know, I will say I said generally in
the NFL by the end of the second chapter. If
your average NFL quarterback career is fifteen years fifteen chapters
of a book, generally by the middle to late stages
of the second chapter, you know what they are. Josh Allen,
(12:00):
end of his second year, jumping over linebackers. You're like,
this is gonna work. Burrow Herbert, we knew first year
Dak's unique. We're probably in chapter eleven. And I talked
about this a month ago on my show. They lost
Zach Martin, Tyron Smith, Ceedee Lambs, now Hurt, Mike McCarthy,
Jason Garrett, des Bryant Zeke, all these formidable players, and
(12:26):
yet Dak, if he is upright, will win ten plus games.
And I thought I was always.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Fair with Dak.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But he's lost Hall of Fame talent, and it's rarely
been replaced by Hall of Fame talent. And Dak's never
had what you would consider our Andy Reid as Sean
Payton of Bill Parcells a Jimmy Johnson, and Dak's gonna
get Hall of Fame boats and Dak is having his
best year. Think about this, and I came to this
(12:58):
conclusion about a month ago out you don't have a
number one receiver, you don't really have a number one
tied end. The offensive line is mid and in a
rebuild running game, Javonte Williams does look like the Denver
Javonte Williams and you're dropping thirty a game?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I look at it and I'm like, I always try
to be fair with these guys. Baker Mayfield, that was hard.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Dak Prescott's intelligence and maturity. I haven't even thrown in
the Jerry Jones quotient, which is a lot to deal
with and a very aggressive big city media in Dallas.
Quarterback for the Cowboys is shortstot for the Yankees. It's
a big boy job. And I look at Dak and
he's one of these quarterbacks. It took till about chapter
(13:42):
eleven and I look at him and I'm like, if
he gives me four more years like this, he's gonna
get a lot of Hall of Fame votes.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We're just gonna have to. I mean, the critics, and
I've been one.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm not a harsh critic, but I always said he's
a B plus quarterback. Have I just undervalued the intangible?
So the maturity, the smart. I mean I always thought
he was smart. He was always great at the podium. Yes,
but I mean Jalen Hurts is not good from the pocket.
Dak is good from the pocket. We can't deny that
he didn't run like he used to. Although he's got
(14:13):
a little bit of juice this year, I don't know.
I look at Dak and I'm like, hell, he's playing
as ball as anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, And I only spent ten years trying to convince
you of this. And I do think after some of
those playoff games, when I would come on and say
the intangibles, the way he leads, the way people respond
(14:41):
to him, you weren't the only deaf ears that was
falling on. It was just that the problem with Dak
is you know. And it happened to Romo too. Like Dak,
Romo is great early. I mean now he had to
wait until he got his turn. But by two thousand
and seven and he was rolling That team should have
(15:02):
made it to an NFC title game. And he was
better than Eli. He was absolutely a better quarterback than Eli.
But Eli won two Super Bowls? So how are we
going to view them? We're always going to view Eli
as the better quarterback. You know, Dak had the same
kind of issue. Dak was great. In twenty sixteen, Romo
had to give a concession speech. They thought they were
(15:23):
going to get two or three more years out of
Tony Romo, and Romo finally had to come out and
write a concession speech and go, he's been great, and
you know, my time has been great here and I'm
going to turn this over to Dak Prescott now. And
so Prescott was then held to like this high standard
that we don't hold most fourth round picks too. He
(15:43):
was a fourth round pick, but he had a great
year out of the shoot and it's just like, man,
this guy's got to be great for the next ten,
fifteen years or whatever. And he's had his down moments
and he's had his great moments. He was good against
Tom Brady and the Bucks in the playoffs. He was
good against when they had to play the Packers in
Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs and they lost that game
in twenty sixteen. He's had good moments in the playoffs,
(16:05):
but all of you remember are the horrible moments the
San Franciscos, them getting crushed against the Packers in twenty
twenty three, so he's defined by that. And here's the
thing Stafford's had. Stafford had the same career. Stafford had
the same career as Deck, but he was playing in Detroit,
and we didn't hold him to the same standard even
(16:26):
though he was the number one overall pick and made
fifty million dollars immediately, we held him to a different
standard because he didn't play for the Cowboys. So what
you said early on was right short stop for the Yankees,
quarterback for the Cowboys. Like He's had the exact same
career as Stafford, but he didn't get the super Bowl.
He didn't have the Super Bowl. And guess where DeMarcus
(16:48):
Square had to go to get that Super Bowl. Another
team had to go over to He had to go
over to Denver, and then he got one with Peyton Manning.
You got a super Bowl. Finally. Teams here don't get
super Bowls and so you can have great careers. I
don't think Dak will see the whole thing because I
just don't think there's much evidence of other than I mean,
and Marino at least made it to the Super Bowl.
(17:10):
I mean, and you have to put up massive numbers
for ten or fifteen years like he did, and Dak
won't do that. I mean, Dak's not man and sadly
Dak to your point, I mean, he is playing great,
but and I know quarterbacks are playing better into their
mid thirties now, but are they really gonna get this
thing turned around and be good in his next two years?
(17:34):
I don't know, Mason. Maybe it's hurt a lot too.
Don't forgot Jackson Dart. The Giants went from pathetic to
very interesting. This is a weird league. Washington last year
was great, Now what are they? Bears were untenable. Now
they're three and two. This is a weird league.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like if you have the quarterback, and Dak is clearly
a top twelve quarterback, you can get better really fast
in this league. Like really, I mean, seet could be
undefeated right now. Darnold's better than Geno. I mean it's
I think if you have Dac and you have CD
and then I mean, let's say you go in the
draft or two first and you get an edge rusher
(18:13):
and a top corner second round, you get an elite
tight end. Those three guys inserted into the starting lineup.
Dallas is a real team. They already have top corners.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
They're paying huge money to their quarterbacks and they're not playing.
They're not any good. So I don't know if you
go yeah, I mean, it's and where you can't totally
come around them. Dak Is, When I hear you say
he's a top twelve quarterback, it doesn't come naturally out
of you to say what he did, which is a
top eight quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You're right, You're right, that's not naturally. Today's show brought
to you by our new presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet.
The penants on the line lights are brighter than ever.
One swing can change everything, and you can be part
of every pitch. At hard Rock Bet, new customers can
place a five dollar bet and if it hits, you
(19:03):
not only get your winnings, but also one hundred and
fifty bucks in extra bonus bets. Plus every day this
week on hard Rock Bet, you get a profit boost
for a postseason baseball parlay. There's new promos every day
boost your same game parlay or same game parlay Max,
so your bet pays extra winning. If you want to
see what everybody else is betting on tonight, right top
picks or parlays across any sport. The hard rock Bet
(19:25):
app literally shows you. It's another reason to download.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The app.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Takes ninety seconds just for the info. Tap discover and
you can see trending picks and parlays at any time.
So download the hard rock Bet app. Make your first
deposit payable in bonus bets, not a cash offer offered
by the Seminole Tribe of Florida. In Florida, offered by
seminoal hard Rock Digital LLC. In Alder States. Must be
twenty one plus and physically president in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, indim,
(19:50):
New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia to play. Terms and
conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, call one eighty
and eight.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Admit it in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you are somebody you know as a problem wants help,
call one eight hundred and nine with it. Gambling problem
called one eight hundred gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Hey,
you're beyond this. As you know Texas College football very well.
(20:22):
I threw this out a month ago, I said in
a weird way. Arch Manning taking all the Arrows.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
This year.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Has actually taken the pressure off Sark. I mean Texas
runs through football coaches and you know, Sarks building this
thing up and Art struggling. Nobody's talking about Sarks. Sark's
not getting any heat in these games. And it's like
it's a good reprieve because the old line's been bad.
Arch has struggled. How does that get covered where you're at?
(20:56):
The arch Man because I don't think he's a bust.
I just think I said this when the Athletic came
out with that Arch Manning is the biggest flop ever.
And I went back to his senior year of high school.
I took the four best quarterbacks. One is a hit
Dante Moore, Nico Iamaliava. One gets Now at Auburn, there's
(21:17):
arch man As you know because you follow some high
school recruiting, these spot star quarterbacks. If it's a if
it's a fifty percent hit rate, I'm shocked. How is
how is arch viewed in Texas?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know? Mannings aren't Texans, but Texas football is you know,
kind of king. How does that does that story get
me play?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Where you're at? Yeah? I mean it's huge play and
the great thing for him and Sark is he had
a decent day against ou. Yeah, and in this part
of the world, that defines you. I mean, you probably
don't remember Peter Gardair, but he went four and oh
against the Sooners, and so he's a made man. Never
(22:00):
pay for a drink in Austin and so. And you know,
Arch is held to a completely different standard than even
the top you know, five stars. We see five stars
all the time that don't meet expectations and then have
to bounce around and nobody keeps bringing it up. People
just kind of forget about them. But his uncles were incredible,
(22:22):
his his his grandfather is beloved. He had you know,
there was almost a no win situation. He had to
come in and be brilliant in his first time ever
starting with the team. The best thing I can hear
about Arch is his teammates absolutely seem to love him.
(22:42):
And you do see at times when people like, by
the way this Cowboys team is turning on this defensive
coordinator and and and they're starting to rip on him.
When a team's going poorly and a quarterback's going poorly,
you start to hear whispers from their teammates and that's
not happening in Austin. And by the way, it's an
(23:03):
easy place to whisper because you can find those kids
out on Sixth Street. You can go find them and
you can get them talking, all right, but they're they're
not talking about Arch and they seem to love him.
And so he seems to have gotten pasted, at least
with his own teammates. This born with the silver spoon
in his mouth. I don't think a teammates think of
(23:24):
him that way. Well, but everybody else that watches the
team and even covers the team does kind of see him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now I can say I know Cooper very well. I
casually know Eli. I've only met Peyton once, but I
have dealings with Omaha Productions, which is, you know, a
Peyton I have never thought. I think the Mannings are
remarkably humble. I mean, just Eli maybe the most. I
(23:52):
mean think about this, A Louisiana kid goes to New
York and for like twenty years completely only Jeter maybe
handle the US better. Eli handles the New York Press
for two decades perfectly. Eli is one of the great
guys that has ever been in pro sports as a
human being. I mean he went to New York as
(24:14):
a Southern kid and charmed him and by the way,
totally authentic. Nothing's fake Eli. The three times I've been
around him, he's the exact same.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Guy, by the way, with and I hope you you
have so many associations it's hard to know, so I
hope I'm not gonna rip some guy that his buddies
with you. But t Key was undermining him like crazy
early on, was the stuff he was calling him in
the huddle like but I mean, I remember showing up
there when I was at ESPN dot com and they
(24:43):
were they were having to basically give the guy like
body language classes, like Eli, stop making this face, stop
lowering your head, do it this way. You can't hang
dog it like that, because that's just who he was.
That's just the man. And of course then he has
an incredible two thousand and seven run. Then he has
another Super Bowl run, and then he's a make man.
(25:05):
And it didn't finish well, but he did enough to
Oh my gosh, you should have seen te Key the
stuff he was like he was being. I mean, they
were awful to Eli. It was like they're pledging him. Man.
It was like when you were trying to go Sigma
Kai or whatever. They were all over him and and
he was uh. And that was a rough time early
in his time because he was the number one bonus
(25:27):
baby and his dad had taken over and uh and
gotten him to be drafted in a different place. And
that as we see with you know, any any of
these quarterbacks who have famous dads, then you have to
wear that for a while, you know, in the league.
But to your point, I used to. I used to
get in the car and ride around with Eli and
(25:48):
do stories on him at the Giant's practice, and it
couldn't You're right, he to be from this famous family,
and I saw him in social situations where people were
trying to flood around him, and he was truly it
wasn't like just he was playing possum. He was almost
kind of like troubled by it. So what I love
(26:08):
now is that he's very funny, Like he and Hayton
are perfect together. Genuinely. Yeah, it isn't that the perfect thing?
They failed? Why put yourself through the ringer of having
to do a three hour game every Sunday and do
all that? Why not just sit there and goof off
for a game? And they're great at it, and you know,
(26:28):
I find myself watching that more than the actual game.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So how are you doing, my man? I mean, we
don't get a talk. You know, we're both busy as hell.
Are you still doing that? Are you still doing that
ESPN radio show down.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
In by Yeah, Central Texas, that whole area I left.
I've got a new YouTube show through Rogue Media. Appreciate
you asking me the Matt Moseley Show, so people can
find it wherever they find out. And you know, I
thought about this when you said something about being syndicated. Now,
my syndication doesn't quite go to as many states as
(27:03):
you do, but several states across the Southwest. Now, I'm
a part of something called the E Radio Network, and
so I do a radio show that hits all the
Fox and ESPN affiliates in about five states in the morning,
and by afternoon I do this YouTube show. So we're
all doing YouTube shows now. I saw Michael Irvin is
(27:24):
doing one, and I know your production staff, Josh and
the whole gang were very impressed that I actually went
out and I bought myself like a tracking camera and
all the things that you need to really, you know,
really act like a grown up in this business.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So yeah, and now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes,
Whiskey Business, brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the
official whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast. I want to
go back to the mica trade. So there's a lot
of finger pointing and a lot of my audience isn't
in Dallas, right, And I've always leaned on guys like
(27:58):
you who know you know, you're You're a soldier, You're
a foot soldier, you're in the belly, you know of
this beast, the cowboys. When the mica trade went down,
people overwhelmingly didn't like it. But can we blame anybody?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, because because the national press was basically Jerry
doesn't know what he's doing. And my take is, you're
not one of the richest Americans. It's almost like I
always tell people about Trump, whether you like him or not,
what he's done in the Middle East, with the border
he won for a second time, pretty competitive country. He
can't be a dope. There's got to be the light
(28:34):
bulb's got to be on most of the time. Jerry's
been too rich, too successful, too smart in business to
not know what he's doing in that deal. He knows
when the money doesn't sound right. I defended it because
Micah in big playoff games and in big games sometimes
disappeared and was engulfed by the better left tackles.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
How did it play? Is there?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
If you look at it now in hindsight, could it
have ever? I mean, they didn't make him an offer.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Matt.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We don't know. I mean, I don't even know he
made him an offer. And that's where the thing fell
apart is because it came across to the agent and
Micah later on that Jerry tried to take advantage of him,
and that's where the thing went south. Jerry thought he
had a deal with him and it was gonna be
(29:27):
a massive deal. I don't think it was going to
be as good as a deal as he got with
the Packers. The shocking thing about this is Jerry's never
I mean, yeah, they had the Hearschel Walker trade and
all that, but he's never had like a guy who's
arguably the best defensive player in the NFL. He's never
let a superstar get away. I mean, he did a
(29:49):
horrible deal with Zeke. I think he just honestly flat
out got tired of getting beat on these deals. He
makes you know, CDs the highest paid receiver, second hight
paper receiver in the game, that's the highest paid quarterback.
I think Jerry saw an opportunity to, in his mind,
go a different direction here, and they just made each
(30:11):
other mad. I think he embarrassed and tried to make
Micah look like a guy who was confused and didn't
understand the business. Okay, and then I think all that
stuff Micah did, I mean, I still think it could
have they could have gotten a deal done. And then
Micah went to camp and I was there, and Micah
(30:31):
started showing people up and and and getting on and
taking naps and lying down on the trainer table or
you know, training table on the during a game. I
think both sides kind of embarrassed each other and then
they moved on. Now what I what I wonder about
(30:52):
is when a guy gets traded, you'll start hearing leaks
and you're like, oh, it's a bad guy, or he
was immature and he was this and that. I will say,
you talk about me being there and I watched him
and he was trying to be a leader, like I'm
not saying he was great at it, but Micah I
was at his locker almost every single game, and while
(31:14):
other players were slinking out of there after a lot
of those losses last year, Micah was trying. Now he
would screw up and accidentally throw his coach under the bus,
like he had moments where he messed up, and he
sounded like a twenty four year old kid or twenty
five whatever he is. But man, he I think he
tried more than they're letting on. And I think he's
(31:37):
I think, deep down, even with all the money, I
think people going out forty seven million, who cares. He's fine,
he's with the Packers. I think his feelings are hurt.
And I think Jerry tried to make him look bad,
and Jerry embarrassed him, and Jerry embarrassed the agent. I mean,
Jerry now has to turn around trying to get a
dill done with Mulgeta on George Pikett's that's who That's
(32:00):
who Pickens agent is. He's now got to turn around.
And Jerry not only embarrassed the player, but Jerry took
aim at that agent. And that's just unnecessary. Why do
you do that? Like, dude, I've been with all those Rangers,
GMS and covered baseball for many years, and do you
think all of them hated Boris? Sure, there was a
(32:22):
time when Scott Boris was the most hated man in
all the sports. But they knew they had to deal
with him. They knew if they wanted great players, they
had to deal with him. Well, Jerry just decided, Yeah,
we'll just I'll just I'll just I'm just gonna piss
this guy off. I'm just gonna I'm gonna basically speak
to the character and the and the and I mean
(32:44):
just completely undermine the agent and everything. So that's where
Jerry did some weird stuff on this thing. Now I'm
with you in some respects. I want to see how
the trade plays out. But what fuels this tray, it's
the wrong stuff. What fuels Jerry is this eternal deal
(33:07):
to try to prove that he can do it without
Jimmy and so don't when he brought up the Herschel
trade immediately the night the trade was announced with Micah,
that's what all this is about. You realize that these
are two old men in their eighties still trying to
get back at each other. Yeah, and they'll make up
(33:29):
and they act like they love each other and they'll
cry on camera and all this. But you know what,
when Jimmy saw how that thing turned out Netflix, Jimmy
was like, that's just Jerry trying to rewrite history Jared.
He I guarantee you he looked at that whole thing
as a love letter to Jared, and he thinks a
lot of that stuff that came out in that documentary
(33:51):
was just made up complete bs. The bet the guy
who looked the best was Switzer. Yeah, Switzer ends up
looking like and I had Switzerland on the other day,
and he's still unbelievable his mind. You ought to have
him on soon. His mind at age eighty eight. He
just turned eighty eight. It's unbelievable, and he's funny. Now
he may say some stuff get everybody in trouble, but
(34:15):
Switzer actually looked okay at that documentary. But I think
that documentary's going to get Jimmy and Jerry back at
loggerheads again, and so they'll just go off into their
eighties still mad at each other, because at the end
of the day, that's all Jerry's trying to do is
win one without Jimmy and he's never been able to
(34:36):
do it for thirty years, even even Washington. At least
you had Washington that had been forever since they had
been to the NFC title game. They go to one
with Jay Daniels, and you say, I heard you say, like, well,
we don't know what Washington is right now. You know what, though,
they appear to have a quarterback who's going to be
(34:57):
there for a decade. They're going to have fun. Same
thing with New York. The Giants may win six games
this year, they may win five games, but they're kind
of interesting. All of a sudden, Dark's running around. I mean,
he's doing a Baker Mayfield impression. He's probably a better
athlete than Baker, but they kind of are built alike.
(35:17):
The delivery seems alike. He play has a better arm
than Baker, but they're kind of alike in the way
they approach it and the fun they're having. Those organizations
all have something to look forward to. I mean, I'll
tell you who doesn't have sympathy for the Eagles fans
or the Cowboys fans. The Eagles fans have been to
two They've won two Super Bowls in the past decade,
(35:40):
and they're all whining and crying. Our offense looks bad.
Now Jay's not happy and Jayleen's not throwing the ball
for that much. Well, the last group that will ever
sympathize with them is anybody who's been around this Cowboys team,
because they Hawie Roseman. And I think you said it.
I think you're the one who said it. And I
was talking to people from Philadelphia and they agree. I had.
(36:02):
I talked with southpal just the other day that dude's
going the whole thing. Howie Roseman is going to the
Pro Football Hall of Fame. And I mean, he was
lucky if he had a cubicle and Chip Kelly was there.
You know, they put it. They basically treated him like
the movie The Office, and they just say, hey, can
you We need you to go down to the basement
(36:23):
for a little while. And now he's going to go
a Hall of Fame. And Jerry's just kind of still out,
just you know, wandering around in the darkness.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
When you want to enjoy life simpler pleasures, reach for
Green River Whiskey. Whether it's dry whiskey or single barrel bourbon,
you're getting over a century of craftsmanship packed into every bottle.
Hop on over to Green River Whiskey dot com and
discover a legend in a bottle today.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Hey, one thing, by the way, you're not talking about
these Aggies. Boy, You and I know anytime we talk
off air, you're like, hey, I know you think ut
is the is the is the straw that stirs the drink? Oh,
my lord, in this state right now, you've got that.
You've got this perfect mixture of a struggling Longhorns number
(37:17):
one to unranked to whatever the right now Aggie's could be,
could be a national contender, national title contend are headed
toward the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Even the r East local years, they always look the part.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
They're always big.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
They have NFL lineman, players, linebackers, receivers, they've always had
good players. They didn't they haven't had a lot of
great quarterbacks, but they've always had you know, the Texas
A and M has looked the part my entire life.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
They need this guy just to be average. This that's how.
That's how good some of these linemen. You talk about
one trip to college station would would really do you
some good. And I'm telling you this cash is how
like these these linemen they're just running them through somebody
named Regis and they're just running through NFL lineman and
(38:08):
I get it now. The difference is they're great. They're
actually really good on the old line. They're really good
at running back, and they get the best receiving duo
in the country right now. It's scary if they go
to Death Valley and beat LSU. We're I mean, this
is this is a whole different trajectory. And maybe this
coach kind of has a little something going. He loves
(38:30):
a good hoodie. He's kind of he just fits them
so much better than Jimbo. Jimbo is the most aloof dude.
He for some reason, Jimbo just didn't fit at all.
And this this, I mean this, Mike Ilko, he's got
something going on. You know. He's got me wanting to
wear hoodies.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Well, I'm in I live in Chicago now, so that's
all I wear. I'm going to get out of this dress.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, but you're you're still in the deal where you
can wear like a thin guy hoodie like Elko and
I have to have the we got to have a
big hoodie to take us in. But the thin, the
thin hoodie looks great on golfers and everything. I would
love there was a time I could pull it off,
but we will pass that.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Matt Mosley, say hi to Ed the Doomsday Podcast. How
often do you do that thing? A couple of times
a week ninety minutes.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, yeah, we hit that thing pretty hard for it.
We just needed cowboys to be horrible or really good.
We just can't have them be in the middle. But
we do that a couple of times. We'll have some
big interviews, we'll do it after the post game, and
then we have a whole bunch of other stuff we do.
But yeah, Ed's I mean, I you know, would it
(39:40):
be easier if I had like one hundred and fifty
employees than having one employee in Ed? You bet, you bet.
I would rather. I would rather try to have about
one hundred. No, Ed's great, and we're doing fine, The
Doomsday Podcast continues.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, you've been doing it for how many years?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Seven or eight years.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's like a lot of years to do a podcast. Yeah, no,
it is they you know, it's funny. Maybe it's just
the popularity of football, but I still find myself Dallas
is such an interesting brand because sometimes I don't I
(40:27):
don't know you know, Jerry has always supported Dak, and
one of the reasons I think he's supported him is
because Jerry fears irrelevance and Dak's good enough to always
make you relevant. I mean, you look in this league,
there's about seven teams every year that are unwatchable. The
(40:49):
Cowboys are watchable. I didn't think this was going to
be the year, but they're always watchable. There's a world
that exists that Ceedee Lamb comes back the online meshes
and they win like nine games. That's a real thing.
I mean, I've watched every snap of every game. They're
a CD LAMB drop from having beaten Philadelphia. They played
(41:11):
they played a horrible game against Chicago, the defense was
just lost. But that they're in everything. Like they play
Washington this weekend. That thing could be thirty three to
thirty coin flip either way. I mean, I just watched
Caleb Williams and DeAndre Swift dash I mean DeAndre Swift
the holes created by the Bears O line against Washington.
(41:33):
Dallas is going to drop twenty eight to thirty points on.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Washington and they have to do it. They have to
score thirty to thirty five game and to your point,
the high wire act of watching them attempt to do
it is kind of fun, and then they're capable of
doing it, and we're The point you made earlier was
a great one, and that Dak and used to be
(41:57):
Romo could do this, and Dak could. Romo used to
elevate bad offensive lines and kind of subpar offenses, and
he made some receivers a ton of money. Dak in
chapter eleven, I think you called it, has found a
way to do that. And in that one game where
they went out and went crazy against the Jets, No,
(42:19):
the Jets are dreadful, but four starting offensive linemen out
and it didn't matter. The ball was coming out, and
you got to give Shatty some credit for that. The
thing I hate for Shady it's like you with pitchers,
especially this time of year. We talked about give him
a clean inning, get the reliever. Wish we give him
a clean inning. Wish he could have had a clean
(42:40):
start to his head coaching career. Wish about five days
before that, they didn't trade his best player to see
what he could have done with a full arsenal of players.
Because this marriage is not working and poor. They cleaned
up Ibra Flus's haircut when he was in Chico, Kago.
They got his wife, got him closely cropped, and she
(43:03):
got some good things going there. But he lost his
coaching career. He's lost his way well, and he can't
can't find it. And there's nobody to turn this thing
over to because he brought people with it. Yeah, they
let I mean the same people that were with him
when he felled in Chicago or with him now. I
don't think there's I do not think this defense is fixable.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, Eberflus. You know, listen, we know coordinators often get
elevated to head coaches and they're just not built for it.
And there's probably a few position coaches that get elevated
to coordinators and they're not built for it. Failure, you know,
it's it's it's just part of football. I mean, I
(43:44):
say this all the time. Jason McIntyre and I talked
about it the other day. He asked, who's the next
great automatic higher? So when the Broncos hired Peyton, you
knew it would work. When the Chargers hired Harbaugh, you.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Knew it would work.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I argued in the off season, and the Patriots were
going to double their win total. Mike Vrabel was gonna
work about every other year. I mean, Mike McCarthy to
Dallas was going to have some success. He's a solid coach.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
He and Aaron. Aaron can be hard to get along
with it.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's funny if Schottenheimer leaves. So McIntyre asked this question,
who's the guarant and there's about one every other year
where you're like, oh, yeah, that'll win games. Peyton, Harbaugh,
Vrabel McCarthy. If I said to you, Brian Schottenheimer lasts
a year, is there a name I gotta I'll throw
(44:35):
it out at you. You're gonna think I'm crazy here.
You're gonna think I'm crazy. Belichick look to do. Bill
Belichick taking over. Bill Belichick takes over the Dallas Cowboys
college is a disaster. He doesn't fit. He doesn't have
(44:56):
a college sensibility. Belichick, by the way, is not good
with personnel, and that you could go to him and say, Bill,
we do not trust you on personnel.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We need a coach that nuts only No, it wouldn't
have been. But I think he's embarrassed himself and I
think he's hurt his credibility so bad. He hasn't damaged
his legacy that will always be there. But he can't.
I don't see him leading the team and the fits
(45:25):
not good because the guy he learned from and he
came up under Bill Parcells has already been with the Cowboys.
And let me tell you, and I love Bill and
still keep in touch with him. That was the most
miserable I ever saw Jerry. Jerry cannot function in a
world with a head coach like that. So and to
(45:49):
your point about McCarthy, isn't that funny? You know what
I'm seeing right now? When you say who are going
to be the hot coach in the NFL, his name
is one of the first ones you see. It's same
things James Franklin. Right now, he bottoms out with Penn State,
and by the time these hires are made, Franklin's gonna
seem like this incredible choice for these SEC openings, right
(46:11):
Florida Auburn, Franklin wanted Vandy. He's coaching the SEC like
Franklin's going to be a hot name and he just
he just bottomed out three of the worst weeks in
the history of college football. But yeah, that's a fascinating
thing to imagine Belichick. But Jerry likes having a good
(46:33):
time too much to put up with having a bad
time to have a good time, if you know what
I mean, Belichick, he can't. Yeah, and now he would
like the Jordan Hudson aspect of it. Jerry would like that.
He would like some of the side show if some
of that came to town. But dealing he would not want.
(46:58):
I mean, Bill wouldn't want an owner out there. Now
here's the thing. Shot He's doing well enough as an
offensive coach that Jerry's kind of excited. So Jerry is
in the mindset right now of if we just get
if we do something to get the defense going. We
can do this with Shoddy. We could do this with
(47:18):
Shoddy because there's a belief right now with a way
DA's playing that they found the perfect guy for Dak.
So there won't be a firing after this season. I know,
I remember you saying maybe Shoty could be one and done.
But shot he's doing too well on offense. He's doing
too well on offense to get fired. So they have
(47:39):
to go with their third defensive coordinator in the last
three years. They cannot hire defensive coordinators. They're horrific at it.
Mike Nolan was horrible, Quinn had a pretty good run.
Quinn gets hired to be a head coach. Then they
have two more bad ones. They had Rob Ryan before
Marinelli and Monte Kiffin. That was a rough That was
(48:01):
kind of a rough scene. They were kind of you know,
they were past their prime. They're right, really just can't
They're horrible at it. You know what, By the way,
isn't it interesting.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That that Garrett's never gotten another opportunity because it's like,
if you're decent with the Cowboys and you win a
ton of games, and I promise you when they interviewed
him for the Falcons and the Ravens before he got
the Cowboys job, he.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Blew them all away, like they were they were blown
away by Garrett. But I guess his his time as
the office coordinator with Giants just kind of ruined his reputation.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I think, yes, I think Jason Garrett is one of
the few NFL coaches that would work very well in college.
I think he's a very pleasant guy. He's very bright,
kind of a gentle personality. He'd play to the ad
the donors. I think if Jason Garrett wanted wanted a
college job. I mean, let's say, for instance, Michigan doesn't
(49:02):
work for more, it just doesn't work. Jason Garrett. I've
said this, there's a personality matters a lot as a
college coach. It matters not one bit as a pro coach,
but it does matter as a college coach. That's why
I VOA said John Gruden and Rex Ryan could work
as college coaches. Belichick and Parcels it wouldn't work. Saban's
(49:24):
actually charming, Saban's funny, He's witty, great storyteller. Jason Garrett
could work as a college coach. And especially I mean,
he's a really nice guy. I've texted him a few times.
If you told me, you know, Sark's not leaving. If
you told me you know, I'm just trying to think
(49:45):
of a you know, Tennessee's got the right coach, so
does Alabama. You know, if you told me Michigan was
open a big job. If Marcus Freeman ever left Notre Dame,
although I don't think he should or will. I think
Jason Garrett works collegiately. That's interesting. Yeah, I think you're
I think you're right in some ways.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
If he had, if he could navigate the whole n
IO world.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Didn't he do notre name games? He's doing notre name games.
I mean, I've I've heard him doing that.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
He was, Yeah, and he and he and he does
the NBC stuff. Yeah, it's it would just be I
think he thought he was going to get the offered
the duke job at one point and maybe maybe that
was when Elko got the job or something like that.
That would have been a perfect job for him. Any
sort of a CC that thinks of itself as like
(50:36):
an IVY League, That's that's where Garrett could function brilliantly.
And let's not you know you just Richard Michigan. They
think of themselves as like lofty academics, intellectuals. What do
they call those Michigan men.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Well like that, there's a there's a term, it's called
a something Ivy Penn State, Michigan both view themselves as
that like a non traditional IVY League school. The educational
level is very high. Yeah, No, I Garrett, Garrett could
do it. College football. You're you're watching it with Belichick
(51:16):
some of that harsh Northeast grumpy ship. It doesn't work.
You gotta you gotta shake hands you gotta know, you
gotta sometimes dance in the locker room with the players.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah. Sorry, do you know Macwill said, it's very rare. Yeah,
even to your point. Even the great Saban like had
players that would imitate him. Yes, and there was fun
stuff that was probably happening and we didn't always see it.
(51:49):
But now that you see that, he kind of can
be funny and can smile and all that. But it's
hard to run a program like that anymore. Though. It's
hard to be that authoritarian, just hard fist. I mean, like,
I wonder if Lanning, I know he got beat the
other day, is Signetti. I mean, that's that's the biggest
that's the craziest story the past twenty years in college football.
(52:11):
Some dude goes into I mean, he's winning at James Madison.
Who in the world would have ever known sixties. We
had no clue, none of us, And he tried to
tell us he is the at age sixty three or
sixty four, where kind of the I've seen people in
the Big twelve like this Climb and Lance Leipol. They
are good coaches, but they're just kind of the same
(52:32):
older tough dude. Signetti came in Cockier and all get out.
He's the cockiest coach in America. And he's like sixty
five and he's like, hey, google me. You think I
don't have to win? Google me? And he's and he's
just going out there and backed it up in Indiana,
like I mean, Colin, they're like great, they're linebackers, they're
defensive ends, they're like like I just thought it was
(52:53):
He's just great, got a great scheme. What's going on here?
And it's like, no, he's got great players. I still
think that Landing is pretty unbelievable. Yeah, I do. I mean,
and again, I don't know, I don't know if that
works it. I think that guy at Arizona State, and
I know they're losing right now, that guy's good too.
At the you're right though, at the collegiate level, that
(53:15):
psycho coach can work. And Dillingham's that guy that is
on State. Landing's that guy at Oregon. But but the
but you know what's the guy at Franklin just wore
out his welcome. He won a ton of games, but
he just couldn't he couldn't break through. And now and
again the next guy, there is no guarantee in the
(53:38):
world that the next guy breaks. So, because you know
who they're gonna try to go hire, They're going to
try to hire a Penn State man. They're going to
convince themselves we need Matt Ruhle. He played linebacker here
and he's the best at a at a at a
at a press conference in college football. He's the best.
But you know what I mean, he's he's done fine
at college, but I don't think that's knock it out
(54:00):
of the park higher for pin State. And I like Matt.
He turned my own motor around.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Matt Moseley. All right, I got a run. But he's
so to you.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
We're busy, dudes, extremely extremely busy. I think I have
a tennis match waiting. The volume cost.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Of everything still out of control, and many of us
are relying on credit cards to cover essentials. If that
debt is piling up, You're not alone. You might have
considered reaching out to our friends at American Financing, but
hesitated because you don't want to give up your low
mortgage rate. Well there's good news, very good news. They've
created the Smart Equity Loan. It's a solution designed to
help you take control of your finances without touching your
(54:39):
current mortgage. Unlike a heelock, which can have varied interest rates,
the smart Equity loan offer it's a fixed rate that
means one predictable monthly payment. This loan allows you to
leverage the equity in your home to pay off high interstet,
free up your cash flow. Okay, keep your existing low
mortgage rate intact. It only takes ten minutes to get started,
no upfront or hidden fee. Just call americ Financing Today
(55:01):
eight six six seven two one thirty three hundred eight
six six seven two one thirty three hundred or American
Financing dot net slash column
The volume.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now it's time for this week's redeem Team member, brought
to you by Hulu's Chad Powers. This week it's Jake Moody,
the Bears kicker released by the Niners after having a
rough Week one. On Monday, Jake got redemption four field goals,
including the game winner against the Commanders. Chad Powers now
streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on
Disney Plus for bundles subscribers, terms apply. Okay, I haven't
(00:31):
talked to Matt mosey in, a long time host of
the Doomsday Podcast with Ed Werder, but Ed's not here today,
so let's just say Matt's the host and Ed will
have to give you know, deal with all the you
know land mines after this. So, first of all, longtime,
no talk. It's I thought this was a four win team.
I thought Schottenheimer was going to be a disaster, and
(00:53):
yet the offense is cooking with no CD LAMB. They're
rebuilding the old line. Dave Williams looks pretty good. They
don't have a number one receiver. I think Pickens is
more of a two. What is Brian Schottenheimer, who hadn't
interviewed for a head job in a decade and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
What's the secret sauce here? By the way, I mean,
they have CD coming back, so you know, I think
we would agree he's a legit one. He's great. Pickens
playing himself into a big contract. And see, Jerry has
all this room now to deal with, you know, getting
trading Micah. He's got all the cap room in the world,
(01:33):
so Jerry can can move around and do some things.
It really is kind of sad though, because it feels
like it's gonna be wasted. They're gonna win more than
four games, but they're losing games. And this is probably
the best Dak's ever played. This is the most comfortable
he's been. And thinking about what you just said, without CD,
(01:54):
with Pickens in that last game, without even a run game,
I mean, you know, Bobby Brown from Texas A and M,
the fifth year player out A and M and whoever
else Carolina was lining lining up, you could name them all,
Colin they were. I mean, they had Juvante bottled up
and still that was fine, and they're scoring thirty points
a game, and they had one hiccup and that was
(02:16):
in Chicago, and they had a really bad outing against
Caleb in Chicago. But maybe Ben Johnson is turning that
thing around. But this is a real this is but
the offense is great. It looks so much better honestly
than even McCarthy because they're just more inventive. They're getting
more people involved. Their running game looks better, like what
(02:37):
they're doing with their tight ends. I mean, think about that.
Ferguson didn't have a touchdown all of last season. I
only get a single touchdown, he said, like four in
the last four weeks. But he's on a roll. And
then you know he's doing for Pickens what Romo used
to do for the La Run Robinson's and you know, remember,
oh miles they had, I mean they've they've had some
(02:59):
Miles Austin. You know, Romo used to elevate guys, and
Dak's even doing that because Pickens looks incredible and he's
looked like a number one. But I think your four
win I think they'll exceed that, but only Colin because
the NFC East is so bad, Like this thing looks
(03:19):
bad right now and this could have been a year
with a league average defense, Cowboys could have a great
shot of winning this division. That's how bad. The division
looks right now and they're not going to be able
to do it because this defense is horrific and there's
no I don't really see any path foward, like anybody
(03:40):
you could bring in.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
What I've said this it's the Shaq Kobe trade. The
Lakers knew for two years Shaq was going to go
to Miami with d Wade and win more than Kobe was.
But in the end it was the right move. I
think I am the only syndicated voice TV or radio
that has said I love moving Dak. Jerry's a deal.
In the last two years. He couldn't pay eight million
(04:02):
dollars for Derrick Henry. You took the oil man and
the maverick and you muted his ability to do any
deals because they were too top heavy. And now Dak
is playing great. So you go in to a draft
next year with two ones and you don't need a quarterback.
Meaning let's say let's say they finish they have the
eighth pick, eighth pick, ninth pick. They could move down
(04:25):
to fifteen, grab another three or a four or five,
rebuild the defense. You know how it works. Defense is
about collisions, is about blowing stuff up. You can walk
in as a pass rusher, as an elite corner or
a linebacker and play as a rookie and have an impact.
I mean, Fred Warner did, Boss do Micah did? You're
(04:45):
not asking a tight end to learn how to block
out a college or a quarterback or an offensive lineman,
where even if you're good, it takes a year. I
think Dallas is going to take those first two draft picks.
They're going to upgrade their defense. They'll have money to
buy another playmaker, Kenny Clark. That's a nice getting that deal.
I think Dallas long term is better without Micah. I
(05:06):
just think you're gonna lose this trade because Green Bay
is gonna win playoff games.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And you're gonna look bad. You're gonna look like.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Kobe with the Lakers waiting to get Gasol shacks in
Miami winning and everybody crushes you for two years. But
in the end, Gasol was the better fit.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, but the quarterback is going to be thirty four
or thirty five years old by the time you're turning
the corner and getting all these picks hit, so you
might have to go get another quarterback too. And you're
so I mean, what's happening right now is they're wasting
a brilliant year. He was second. I mean, I know
we beat up on him, and you have and I
(05:44):
have over the years to a certain extent. He was
number two in the MVP voting just two years ago. Yeah,
twenty twenty three. Does he get hurt too much? Yes?
Does he run the ball anymore? No? But like he's
making right now, he's as effishent. I mean, there's not
a quarterback in the league playing more consistently and throwing
(06:05):
the ball better than Dak right now. Totally, totally, And
I just don't know if they can turn it around
as quickly as you're talking about. And plus what a
deal to do to eber Flus and even Shoty, what
a deal a week before, seven days or five days
before the deal? You trade your one huge defensive playmaker.
(06:25):
And it's not just all they're struggling against the run,
they're struggling against the pass. It's a disaster. It's a disaster.
So while I agree and it's interesting to see what
they do with it, they're going to be on their
third defensive coordinator in three years. Because if eber Flus
continues down this path, this isn't sustainable and they're not
(06:46):
going to give him another season, and so Shoty has
to fire him. I mean, although it's not Shoty's decision.
And again that's where it all comes back to. I mean,
Jerry medals so much he didn't even allow this new
internal candidate to hire his own defense coordinator. I think
ibra Flus was in the building and probably hired before
(07:06):
they'd even finished the deal with Schottenheimer. So again, this
is the backwards dealings of an owner's slash gem. But
I mean, I it'd be great if they could, if
they could turn it and flip it. I mean, they'll
have two first round picks next year. Maybe they find somebody,
But I mean, think about what they're missing right now.
They don't have a decent linebacker. There are two stud
(07:30):
defensive backs. They are two studded cornerbacks that are ninety
million worth ninety million in the contracts combining for about
thirty six to forty million this year, just on this
year's books. Are horrible right now. They don't have anybody's
playing safety. They're playing Donovan Wilson completely out of position.
They don't have a linebacker that can make a tackle.
(07:52):
I mean, it's bad. This is this makes like rob Ronan,
you know, look look almost like he knows what he's doing.
Now you go back to some of those guys they
struggled with. So it's just I guess to me, Colin,
I see what you're saying, and I'll be interested to
see what they're able to build moving forward. But as
(08:13):
I've said to you before, it really is a gut
punch to have lucked into two quarterbacks. Yeah, or twenty
years now. The Green Bay Packers have done it for
thirty Yes, now, I'm not saying they locked into it,
although the trade for far if you can say what
you want, and they got Aaron Rodgers lay it way
later than anybody ever thought Rogers would go in the
(08:34):
first round. But they've had thirty years of great quarterback play.
That boys are entering year twenty of tremendous quarterback play
and have nothing to show for. At least the Packers
have one Super Bowl. At least they can point to
one Super Bowl. Yeah, Cowboys have zero and not even
a NFC title game.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So Dallas, I mean, there's how does the Dallas media.
I mean, now that Mark Cuban has sold the Mavericks.
Jerry is the centerpiece of that city's sports fortunes.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
How does the.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
When he fired Tom Landry, nobody liked him. Then when
he built the Empire, he was a big shot. Then
they got rid of Jimmy and things sag. And how
does the Dallas media treat Jerry Jones? What is it
like in those postgame scrums? How is he treated with.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Reverence, with anxiety with you seen? Have you seen me
behind him in all those scrums? And I have, for
some reason, I have to battle my way back there.
I have to watch it because then later people show
me my facial expressions. I've been around him so long
that I can't like kind of hold it in. I'm
just like, what in the world am I hearing? I
(09:57):
think if anything, people have gotten more or where they're
just kind of they know he's not going to change.
He is entertaining. Nothing's ever going to change. They have
a guy in Will McLay who's a good personnel man.
There's a shot that they hit on these draft picks.
(10:18):
I mean, they hit on a lot of these picks
they've hit on. They they may end up hitting on
I mean every one of their offensive line now when
you ask them to go get a defensive tackle or
sometimes the defensive end, they'll miss they'll miss on some
of that. But no, I think the media is just
at this point going through the motions. They know he's
(10:39):
still the center of everything. It's kind of humorous because
the head coach almost has to kind of I think
they wait to take it is smarter them to do this.
They wait to take the head coach to the podium
until Jerry's thing is finished, because I would when they didn't,
and McCarthy would start before Jerry was finished. McCarthy might
(11:01):
have like five people around him and there would be
forty five to seventy people gathered around Jerry. So that's
what it's all. It's what it will always be, and
Jerry will keep doing this until he's well into his nineties.
All right, he just turned eighty three. I think he
just celebrated his eighty third birthday. But I think I
(11:22):
just think we're just so used to it, and so
there's nothing I mean, And so the head coach and
everybody else has to wait and see what he said,
and then they have to react to whatever he said.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The you know, I will say I said generally in
the NFL by the end of the second chapter. If
your average NFL quarterback career is fifteen years fifteen chapters
of a book, generally by the middle to late stages
of the second chapter, you know what they are. Josh Allen,
(12:00):
end of his second year, jumping over linebackers. You're like,
this is gonna work. Burrow Herbert, we knew first year
Dak's unique. We're probably in chapter eleven. And I talked
about this a month ago on my show. They lost
Zach Martin, Tyron Smith, Ceedee Lambs, now Hurt, Mike McCarthy,
Jason Garrett, des Bryant Zeke, all these formidable players, and
(12:26):
yet Dak, if he is upright, will win ten plus games.
And I thought I was always.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Fair with Dak.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But he's lost Hall of Fame talent, and it's rarely
been replaced by Hall of Fame talent. And Dak's never
had what you would consider our Andy Reid as Sean
Payton of Bill Parcells a Jimmy Johnson, and Dak's gonna
get Hall of Fame boats and Dak is having his
best year. Think about this, and I came to this
(12:58):
conclusion about a month ago out you don't have a
number one receiver, you don't really have a number one
tied end. The offensive line is mid and in a
rebuild running game, Javonte Williams does look like the Denver
Javonte Williams and you're dropping thirty a game?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I look at it and I'm like, I always try
to be fair with these guys. Baker Mayfield, that was hard.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now I'm not.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Dak Prescott's intelligence and maturity. I haven't even thrown in
the Jerry Jones quotient, which is a lot to deal
with and a very aggressive big city media in Dallas.
Quarterback for the Cowboys is shortstot for the Yankees. It's
a big boy job. And I look at Dak and
he's one of these quarterbacks. It took till about chapter
(13:42):
eleven and I look at him and I'm like, if
he gives me four more years like this, he's gonna
get a lot of Hall of Fame votes.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We're just gonna have to. I mean, the critics, and
I've been one.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm not a harsh critic, but I always said he's
a B plus quarterback. Have I just undervalued the intangible?
So the maturity, the smart. I mean I always thought
he was smart. He was always great at the podium. Yes,
but I mean Jalen Hurts is not good from the pocket.
Dak is good from the pocket. We can't deny that
he didn't run like he used to. Although he's got
(14:13):
a little bit of juice this year, I don't know.
I look at Dak and I'm like, hell, he's playing
as ball as anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, And I only spent ten years trying to convince
you of this. And I do think after some of
those playoff games, when I would come on and say
the intangibles, the way he leads, the way people respond
(14:41):
to him, you weren't the only deaf ears that was
falling on. It was just that the problem with Dak
is you know. And it happened to Romo too. Like Dak,
Romo is great early. I mean now he had to
wait until he got his turn. But by two thousand
and seven and he was rolling That team should have
(15:02):
made it to an NFC title game. And he was
better than Eli. He was absolutely a better quarterback than Eli.
But Eli won two Super Bowls? So how are we
going to view them? We're always going to view Eli
as the better quarterback. You know, Dak had the same
kind of issue. Dak was great. In twenty sixteen, Romo
had to give a concession speech. They thought they were
(15:23):
going to get two or three more years out of
Tony Romo, and Romo finally had to come out and
write a concession speech and go, he's been great, and
you know, my time has been great here and I'm
going to turn this over to Dak Prescott now. And
so Prescott was then held to like this high standard
that we don't hold most fourth round picks too. He
(15:43):
was a fourth round pick, but he had a great
year out of the shoot and it's just like, man,
this guy's got to be great for the next ten,
fifteen years or whatever. And he's had his down moments
and he's had his great moments. He was good against
Tom Brady and the Bucks in the playoffs. He was
good against when they had to play the Packers in
Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs and they lost that game
in twenty sixteen. He's had good moments in the playoffs,
(16:05):
but all of you remember are the horrible moments the
San Franciscos, them getting crushed against the Packers in twenty
twenty three, so he's defined by that. And here's the
thing Stafford's had. Stafford had the same career. Stafford had
the same career as Deck, but he was playing in Detroit,
and we didn't hold him to the same standard even
(16:26):
though he was the number one overall pick and made
fifty million dollars immediately, we held him to a different
standard because he didn't play for the Cowboys. So what
you said early on was right short stop for the Yankees,
quarterback for the Cowboys. Like He's had the exact same
career as Stafford, but he didn't get the super Bowl.
He didn't have the Super Bowl. And guess where DeMarcus
(16:48):
Square had to go to get that Super Bowl. Another
team had to go over to He had to go
over to Denver, and then he got one with Peyton Manning.
You got a super Bowl. Finally. Teams here don't get
super Bowls and so you can have great careers. I
don't think Dak will see the whole thing because I
just don't think there's much evidence of other than I mean,
and Marino at least made it to the Super Bowl.
(17:10):
I mean, and you have to put up massive numbers
for ten or fifteen years like he did, and Dak
won't do that. I mean, Dak's not man and sadly
Dak to your point, I mean, he is playing great,
but and I know quarterbacks are playing better into their
mid thirties now, but are they really gonna get this
thing turned around and be good in his next two years?
(17:34):
I don't know, Mason. Maybe it's hurt a lot too.
Don't forgot Jackson Dart. The Giants went from pathetic to
very interesting. This is a weird league. Washington last year
was great, Now what are they? Bears were untenable. Now
they're three and two. This is a weird league.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Like if you have the quarterback, and Dak is clearly
a top twelve quarterback, you can get better really fast
in this league. Like really, I mean, seet could be
undefeated right now. Darnold's better than Geno. I mean it's
I think if you have Dac and you have CD
and then I mean, let's say you go in the
draft or two first and you get an edge rusher
(18:13):
and a top corner second round, you get an elite
tight end. Those three guys inserted into the starting lineup.
Dallas is a real team. They already have top corners.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
They're paying huge money to their quarterbacks and they're not playing.
They're not any good. So I don't know if you
go yeah, I mean, it's and where you can't totally
come around them. Dak Is, When I hear you say
he's a top twelve quarterback, it doesn't come naturally out
of you to say what he did, which is a
top eight quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
You're right, You're right, that's not naturally. Today's show brought
to you by our new presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet.
The penants on the line lights are brighter than ever.
One swing can change everything, and you can be part
of every pitch. At hard Rock Bet, new customers can
place a five dollar bet and if it hits, you
(19:03):
not only get your winnings, but also one hundred and
fifty bucks in extra bonus bets. Plus every day this
week on hard Rock Bet, you get a profit boost
for a postseason baseball parlay. There's new promos every day
boost your same game parlay or same game parlay Max,
so your bet pays extra winning. If you want to
see what everybody else is betting on tonight, right top
picks or parlays across any sport. The hard rock Bet
(19:25):
app literally shows you. It's another reason to download.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The app.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Takes ninety seconds just for the info. Tap discover and
you can see trending picks and parlays at any time.
So download the hard rock Bet app. Make your first
deposit payable in bonus bets, not a cash offer offered
by the Seminole Tribe of Florida. In Florida, offered by
seminoal hard Rock Digital LLC. In Alder States. Must be
twenty one plus and physically president in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, indim,
(19:50):
New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia to play. Terms and
conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, call one eighty
and eight.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Admit it in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you are somebody you know as a problem wants help,
call one eight hundred and nine with it. Gambling problem
called one eight hundred gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Hey,
you're beyond this. As you know Texas College football very well.
(20:22):
I threw this out a month ago, I said in
a weird way. Arch Manning taking all the Arrows.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
This year.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Has actually taken the pressure off Sark. I mean Texas
runs through football coaches and you know, Sarks building this
thing up and Art struggling. Nobody's talking about Sarks. Sark's
not getting any heat in these games. And it's like
it's a good reprieve because the old line's been bad.
Arch has struggled. How does that get covered where you're at?
(20:56):
The arch Man because I don't think he's a bust.
I just think I said this when the Athletic came
out with that Arch Manning is the biggest flop ever.
And I went back to his senior year of high school.
I took the four best quarterbacks. One is a hit
Dante Moore, Nico Iamaliava. One gets Now at Auburn, there's
(21:17):
arch man As you know because you follow some high
school recruiting, these spot star quarterbacks. If it's a if
it's a fifty percent hit rate, I'm shocked. How is
how is arch viewed in Texas?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know? Mannings aren't Texans, but Texas football is you know,
kind of king. How does that does that story get
me play?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Where you're at? Yeah? I mean it's huge play and
the great thing for him and Sark is he had
a decent day against ou. Yeah, and in this part
of the world, that defines you. I mean, you probably
don't remember Peter Gardair, but he went four and oh
against the Sooners, and so he's a made man. Never
(22:00):
pay for a drink in Austin and so. And you know,
Arch is held to a completely different standard than even
the top you know, five stars. We see five stars
all the time that don't meet expectations and then have
to bounce around and nobody keeps bringing it up. People
just kind of forget about them. But his uncles were incredible,
(22:22):
his his his grandfather is beloved. He had you know,
there was almost a no win situation. He had to
come in and be brilliant in his first time ever
starting with the team. The best thing I can hear
about Arch is his teammates absolutely seem to love him.
(22:42):
And you do see at times when people like, by
the way this Cowboys team is turning on this defensive
coordinator and and and they're starting to rip on him.
When a team's going poorly and a quarterback's going poorly,
you start to hear whispers from their teammates and that's
not happening in Austin. And by the way, it's an
(23:03):
easy place to whisper because you can find those kids
out on Sixth Street. You can go find them and
you can get them talking, all right, but they're they're
not talking about Arch and they seem to love him.
And so he seems to have gotten pasted, at least
with his own teammates. This born with the silver spoon
in his mouth. I don't think a teammates think of
(23:24):
him that way. Well, but everybody else that watches the
team and even covers the team does kind of see him.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now I can say I know Cooper very well. I
casually know Eli. I've only met Peyton once, but I
have dealings with Omaha Productions, which is, you know, a
Peyton I have never thought. I think the Mannings are
remarkably humble. I mean, just Eli maybe the most. I
(23:52):
mean think about this, A Louisiana kid goes to New
York and for like twenty years completely only Jeter maybe
handle the US better. Eli handles the New York Press
for two decades perfectly. Eli is one of the great
guys that has ever been in pro sports as a
human being. I mean he went to New York as
(24:14):
a Southern kid and charmed him and by the way,
totally authentic. Nothing's fake Eli. The three times I've been
around him, he's the exact same.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Guy, by the way, with and I hope you you
have so many associations it's hard to know, so I
hope I'm not gonna rip some guy that his buddies
with you. But t Key was undermining him like crazy
early on, was the stuff he was calling him in
the huddle like but I mean, I remember showing up
there when I was at ESPN dot com and they
(24:43):
were they were having to basically give the guy like
body language classes, like Eli, stop making this face, stop
lowering your head, do it this way. You can't hang
dog it like that, because that's just who he was.
That's just the man. And of course then he has
an incredible two thousand and seven run. Then he has
another Super Bowl run, and then he's a make man.
(25:05):
And it didn't finish well, but he did enough to
Oh my gosh, you should have seen te Key the
stuff he was like he was being. I mean, they
were awful to Eli. It was like they're pledging him. Man.
It was like when you were trying to go Sigma
Kai or whatever. They were all over him and and
he was uh. And that was a rough time early
in his time because he was the number one bonus
(25:27):
baby and his dad had taken over and uh and
gotten him to be drafted in a different place. And
that as we see with you know, any any of
these quarterbacks who have famous dads, then you have to
wear that for a while, you know, in the league.
But to your point, I used to. I used to
get in the car and ride around with Eli and
(25:48):
do stories on him at the Giant's practice, and it
couldn't You're right, he to be from this famous family,
and I saw him in social situations where people were
trying to flood around him, and he was truly it
wasn't like just he was playing possum. He was almost
kind of like troubled by it. So what I love
(26:08):
now is that he's very funny, Like he and Hayton
are perfect together. Genuinely. Yeah, it isn't that the perfect thing?
They failed? Why put yourself through the ringer of having
to do a three hour game every Sunday and do
all that? Why not just sit there and goof off
for a game? And they're great at it, and you know,
(26:28):
I find myself watching that more than the actual game.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So how are you doing, my man? I mean, we
don't get a talk. You know, we're both busy as hell.
Are you still doing that? Are you still doing that
ESPN radio show down.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
In by Yeah, Central Texas, that whole area I left.
I've got a new YouTube show through Rogue Media. Appreciate
you asking me the Matt Moseley Show, so people can
find it wherever they find out. And you know, I
thought about this when you said something about being syndicated. Now,
my syndication doesn't quite go to as many states as
(27:03):
you do, but several states across the Southwest. Now, I'm
a part of something called the E Radio Network, and
so I do a radio show that hits all the
Fox and ESPN affiliates in about five states in the morning,
and by afternoon I do this YouTube show. So we're
all doing YouTube shows now. I saw Michael Irvin is
(27:24):
doing one, and I know your production staff, Josh and
the whole gang were very impressed that I actually went
out and I bought myself like a tracking camera and
all the things that you need to really, you know,
really act like a grown up in this business.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So yeah, and now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes,
Whiskey Business, brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the
official whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast. I want to
go back to the mica trade. So there's a lot
of finger pointing and a lot of my audience isn't
in Dallas, right, And I've always leaned on guys like
(27:58):
you who know you know, you're You're a soldier, You're
a foot soldier, you're in the belly, you know of
this beast, the cowboys. When the mica trade went down,
people overwhelmingly didn't like it. But can we blame anybody?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, because because the national press was basically Jerry
doesn't know what he's doing. And my take is, you're
not one of the richest Americans. It's almost like I
always tell people about Trump, whether you like him or not,
what he's done in the Middle East, with the border
he won for a second time, pretty competitive country. He
can't be a dope. There's got to be the light
(28:34):
bulb's got to be on most of the time. Jerry's
been too rich, too successful, too smart in business to
not know what he's doing in that deal. He knows
when the money doesn't sound right. I defended it because
Micah in big playoff games and in big games sometimes
disappeared and was engulfed by the better left tackles.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
How did it play? Is there?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
If you look at it now in hindsight, could it
have ever? I mean, they didn't make him an offer.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Matt.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We don't know. I mean, I don't even know he
made him an offer. And that's where the thing fell
apart is because it came across to the agent and
Micah later on that Jerry tried to take advantage of him,
and that's where the thing went south. Jerry thought he
had a deal with him and it was gonna be
(29:27):
a massive deal. I don't think it was going to
be as good as a deal as he got with
the Packers. The shocking thing about this is Jerry's never
I mean, yeah, they had the Hearschel Walker trade and
all that, but he's never had like a guy who's
arguably the best defensive player in the NFL. He's never
let a superstar get away. I mean, he did a
(29:49):
horrible deal with Zeke. I think he just honestly flat
out got tired of getting beat on these deals. He
makes you know, CDs the highest paid receiver, second hight
paper receiver in the game, that's the highest paid quarterback.
I think Jerry saw an opportunity to, in his mind,
go a different direction here, and they just made each
(30:11):
other mad. I think he embarrassed and tried to make
Micah look like a guy who was confused and didn't
understand the business. Okay, and then I think all that
stuff Micah did, I mean, I still think it could
have they could have gotten a deal done. And then
Micah went to camp and I was there, and Micah
(30:31):
started showing people up and and and getting on and
taking naps and lying down on the trainer table or
you know, training table on the during a game. I
think both sides kind of embarrassed each other and then
they moved on. Now what I what I wonder about
(30:52):
is when a guy gets traded, you'll start hearing leaks
and you're like, oh, it's a bad guy, or he
was immature and he was this and that. I will say,
you talk about me being there and I watched him
and he was trying to be a leader, like I'm
not saying he was great at it, but Micah I
was at his locker almost every single game, and while
(31:14):
other players were slinking out of there after a lot
of those losses last year, Micah was trying. Now he
would screw up and accidentally throw his coach under the bus,
like he had moments where he messed up, and he
sounded like a twenty four year old kid or twenty
five whatever he is. But man, he I think he
tried more than they're letting on. And I think he's
(31:37):
I think, deep down, even with all the money, I
think people going out forty seven million, who cares. He's fine,
he's with the Packers. I think his feelings are hurt.
And I think Jerry tried to make him look bad,
and Jerry embarrassed him, and Jerry embarrassed the agent. I mean,
Jerry now has to turn around trying to get a
dill done with Mulgeta on George Pikett's that's who That's
(32:00):
who Pickens agent is. He's now got to turn around.
And Jerry not only embarrassed the player, but Jerry took
aim at that agent. And that's just unnecessary. Why do
you do that? Like, dude, I've been with all those Rangers,
GMS and covered baseball for many years, and do you
think all of them hated Boris? Sure, there was a
(32:22):
time when Scott Boris was the most hated man in
all the sports. But they knew they had to deal
with him. They knew if they wanted great players, they
had to deal with him. Well, Jerry just decided, Yeah,
we'll just I'll just I'll just I'm just gonna piss
this guy off. I'm just gonna I'm gonna basically speak
to the character and the and the and I mean
(32:44):
just completely undermine the agent and everything. So that's where
Jerry did some weird stuff on this thing. Now I'm
with you in some respects. I want to see how
the trade plays out. But what fuels this tray, it's
the wrong stuff. What fuels Jerry is this eternal deal
(33:07):
to try to prove that he can do it without
Jimmy and so don't when he brought up the Herschel
trade immediately the night the trade was announced with Micah,
that's what all this is about. You realize that these
are two old men in their eighties still trying to
get back at each other. Yeah, and they'll make up
(33:29):
and they act like they love each other and they'll
cry on camera and all this. But you know what,
when Jimmy saw how that thing turned out Netflix, Jimmy
was like, that's just Jerry trying to rewrite history Jared.
He I guarantee you he looked at that whole thing
as a love letter to Jared, and he thinks a
lot of that stuff that came out in that documentary
(33:51):
was just made up complete bs. The bet the guy
who looked the best was Switzer. Yeah, Switzer ends up
looking like and I had Switzerland on the other day,
and he's still unbelievable his mind. You ought to have
him on soon. His mind at age eighty eight. He
just turned eighty eight. It's unbelievable, and he's funny. Now
he may say some stuff get everybody in trouble, but
(34:15):
Switzer actually looked okay at that documentary. But I think
that documentary's going to get Jimmy and Jerry back at
loggerheads again, and so they'll just go off into their
eighties still mad at each other, because at the end
of the day, that's all Jerry's trying to do is
win one without Jimmy and he's never been able to
(34:36):
do it for thirty years, even even Washington. At least
you had Washington that had been forever since they had
been to the NFC title game. They go to one
with Jay Daniels, and you say, I heard you say, like, well,
we don't know what Washington is right now. You know what, though,
they appear to have a quarterback who's going to be
(34:57):
there for a decade. They're going to have fun. Same
thing with New York. The Giants may win six games
this year, they may win five games, but they're kind
of interesting. All of a sudden, Dark's running around. I mean,
he's doing a Baker Mayfield impression. He's probably a better
athlete than Baker, but they kind of are built alike.
(35:17):
The delivery seems alike. He play has a better arm
than Baker, but they're kind of alike in the way
they approach it and the fun they're having. Those organizations
all have something to look forward to. I mean, I'll
tell you who doesn't have sympathy for the Eagles fans
or the Cowboys fans. The Eagles fans have been to
two They've won two Super Bowls in the past decade,
(35:40):
and they're all whining and crying. Our offense looks bad.
Now Jay's not happy and Jayleen's not throwing the ball
for that much. Well, the last group that will ever
sympathize with them is anybody who's been around this Cowboys team,
because they Hawie Roseman. And I think you said it.
I think you're the one who said it. And I
was talking to people from Philadelphia and they agree. I had.
(36:02):
I talked with southpal just the other day that dude's
going the whole thing. Howie Roseman is going to the
Pro Football Hall of Fame. And I mean, he was
lucky if he had a cubicle and Chip Kelly was there.
You know, they put it. They basically treated him like
the movie The Office, and they just say, hey, can
you We need you to go down to the basement
(36:23):
for a little while. And now he's going to go
a Hall of Fame. And Jerry's just kind of still out,
just you know, wandering around in the darkness.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
When you want to enjoy life simpler pleasures, reach for
Green River Whiskey. Whether it's dry whiskey or single barrel bourbon,
you're getting over a century of craftsmanship packed into every bottle.
Hop on over to Green River Whiskey dot com and
discover a legend in a bottle today.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Hey, one thing, by the way, you're not talking about
these Aggies. Boy, You and I know anytime we talk
off air, you're like, hey, I know you think ut
is the is the is the straw that stirs the drink? Oh,
my lord, in this state right now, you've got that.
You've got this perfect mixture of a struggling Longhorns number
(37:17):
one to unranked to whatever the right now Aggie's could be,
could be a national contender, national title contend are headed
toward the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Even the r East local years, they always look the part.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
They're always big.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
They have NFL lineman, players, linebackers, receivers, they've always had
good players. They didn't they haven't had a lot of
great quarterbacks, but they've always had you know, the Texas
A and M has looked the part my entire life.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
They need this guy just to be average. This that's how.
That's how good some of these linemen. You talk about
one trip to college station would would really do you
some good. And I'm telling you this cash is how
like these these linemen they're just running them through somebody
named Regis and they're just running through NFL lineman and
(38:08):
I get it now. The difference is they're great. They're
actually really good on the old line. They're really good
at running back, and they get the best receiving duo
in the country right now. It's scary if they go
to Death Valley and beat LSU. We're I mean, this
is this is a whole different trajectory. And maybe this
coach kind of has a little something going. He loves
(38:30):
a good hoodie. He's kind of he just fits them
so much better than Jimbo. Jimbo is the most aloof dude.
He for some reason, Jimbo just didn't fit at all.
And this this, I mean this, Mike Ilko, he's got
something going on. You know. He's got me wanting to
wear hoodies.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Well, I'm in I live in Chicago now, so that's
all I wear. I'm going to get out of this dress.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, but you're you're still in the deal where you
can wear like a thin guy hoodie like Elko and
I have to have the we got to have a
big hoodie to take us in. But the thin, the
thin hoodie looks great on golfers and everything. I would
love there was a time I could pull it off,
but we will pass that.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Matt Mosley, say hi to Ed the Doomsday Podcast. How
often do you do that thing? A couple of times
a week ninety minutes.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, yeah, we hit that thing pretty hard for it.
We just needed cowboys to be horrible or really good.
We just can't have them be in the middle. But
we do that a couple of times. We'll have some
big interviews, we'll do it after the post game, and
then we have a whole bunch of other stuff we do.
But yeah, Ed's I mean, I you know, would it
(39:40):
be easier if I had like one hundred and fifty
employees than having one employee in Ed? You bet, you bet.
I would rather. I would rather try to have about
one hundred. No, Ed's great, and we're doing fine, The
Doomsday Podcast continues.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, you've been doing it for how many years?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Seven or eight years.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
That's like a lot of years to do a podcast. Yeah, no,
it is they you know, it's funny. Maybe it's just
the popularity of football, but I still find myself Dallas
is such an interesting brand because sometimes I don't I
(40:27):
don't know you know, Jerry has always supported Dak, and
one of the reasons I think he's supported him is
because Jerry fears irrelevance and Dak's good enough to always
make you relevant. I mean, you look in this league,
there's about seven teams every year that are unwatchable. The
(40:49):
Cowboys are watchable. I didn't think this was going to
be the year, but they're always watchable. There's a world
that exists that Ceedee Lamb comes back the online meshes
and they win like nine games. That's a real thing.
I mean, I've watched every snap of every game. They're
a CD LAMB drop from having beaten Philadelphia. They played
(41:11):
they played a horrible game against Chicago, the defense was
just lost. But that they're in everything. Like they play
Washington this weekend. That thing could be thirty three to
thirty coin flip either way. I mean, I just watched
Caleb Williams and DeAndre Swift dash I mean DeAndre Swift
the holes created by the Bears O line against Washington.
(41:33):
Dallas is going to drop twenty eight to thirty points on.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Washington and they have to do it. They have to
score thirty to thirty five game and to your point,
the high wire act of watching them attempt to do
it is kind of fun, and then they're capable of
doing it, and we're The point you made earlier was
a great one, and that Dak and used to be
(41:57):
Romo could do this, and Dak could. Romo used to
elevate bad offensive lines and kind of subpar offenses, and
he made some receivers a ton of money. Dak in
chapter eleven, I think you called it, has found a
way to do that. And in that one game where
they went out and went crazy against the Jets, No,
(42:19):
the Jets are dreadful, but four starting offensive linemen out
and it didn't matter. The ball was coming out, and
you got to give Shatty some credit for that. The
thing I hate for Shady it's like you with pitchers,
especially this time of year. We talked about give him
a clean inning, get the reliever. Wish we give him
a clean inning. Wish he could have had a clean
(42:40):
start to his head coaching career. Wish about five days
before that, they didn't trade his best player to see
what he could have done with a full arsenal of players.
Because this marriage is not working and poor. They cleaned
up Ibra Flus's haircut when he was in Chico, Kago.
They got his wife, got him closely cropped, and she
(43:03):
got some good things going there. But he lost his
coaching career. He's lost his way well, and he can't
can't find it. And there's nobody to turn this thing
over to because he brought people with it. Yeah, they
let I mean the same people that were with him
when he felled in Chicago or with him now. I
don't think there's I do not think this defense is fixable.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, Eberflus. You know, listen, we know coordinators often get
elevated to head coaches and they're just not built for it.
And there's probably a few position coaches that get elevated
to coordinators and they're not built for it. Failure, you know,
it's it's it's just part of football. I mean, I
(43:44):
say this all the time. Jason McIntyre and I talked
about it the other day. He asked, who's the next
great automatic higher? So when the Broncos hired Peyton, you
knew it would work. When the Chargers hired Harbaugh, you.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Knew it would work.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I argued in the off season, and the Patriots were
going to double their win total. Mike Vrabel was gonna
work about every other year. I mean, Mike McCarthy to
Dallas was going to have some success. He's a solid coach.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
He and Aaron. Aaron can be hard to get along
with it.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's funny if Schottenheimer leaves. So McIntyre asked this question,
who's the guarant and there's about one every other year
where you're like, oh, yeah, that'll win games. Peyton, Harbaugh,
Vrabel McCarthy. If I said to you, Brian Schottenheimer lasts
a year, is there a name I gotta I'll throw
(44:35):
it out at you. You're gonna think I'm crazy here.
You're gonna think I'm crazy. Belichick look to do. Bill
Belichick taking over. Bill Belichick takes over the Dallas Cowboys
college is a disaster. He doesn't fit. He doesn't have
(44:56):
a college sensibility. Belichick, by the way, is not good
with personnel, and that you could go to him and say, Bill,
we do not trust you on personnel.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We need a coach that nuts only No, it wouldn't
have been. But I think he's embarrassed himself and I
think he's hurt his credibility so bad. He hasn't damaged
his legacy that will always be there. But he can't.
I don't see him leading the team and the fits
(45:25):
not good because the guy he learned from and he
came up under Bill Parcells has already been with the Cowboys.
And let me tell you, and I love Bill and
still keep in touch with him. That was the most
miserable I ever saw Jerry. Jerry cannot function in a
world with a head coach like that. So and to
(45:49):
your point about McCarthy, isn't that funny? You know what
I'm seeing right now? When you say who are going
to be the hot coach in the NFL, his name
is one of the first ones you see. It's same
things James Franklin. Right now, he bottoms out with Penn State,
and by the time these hires are made, Franklin's gonna
seem like this incredible choice for these SEC openings, right
(46:11):
Florida Auburn, Franklin wanted Vandy. He's coaching the SEC like
Franklin's going to be a hot name and he just
he just bottomed out three of the worst weeks in
the history of college football. But yeah, that's a fascinating
thing to imagine Belichick. But Jerry likes having a good
(46:33):
time too much to put up with having a bad
time to have a good time, if you know what
I mean, Belichick, he can't. Yeah, and now he would
like the Jordan Hudson aspect of it. Jerry would like that.
He would like some of the side show if some
of that came to town. But dealing he would not want.
(46:58):
I mean, Bill wouldn't want an owner out there. Now
here's the thing. Shot He's doing well enough as an
offensive coach that Jerry's kind of excited. So Jerry is
in the mindset right now of if we just get
if we do something to get the defense going. We
can do this with Shoddy. We could do this with
(47:18):
Shoddy because there's a belief right now with a way
DA's playing that they found the perfect guy for Dak.
So there won't be a firing after this season. I know,
I remember you saying maybe Shoty could be one and done.
But shot he's doing too well on offense. He's doing
too well on offense to get fired. So they have
(47:39):
to go with their third defensive coordinator in the last
three years. They cannot hire defensive coordinators. They're horrific at it.
Mike Nolan was horrible, Quinn had a pretty good run.
Quinn gets hired to be a head coach. Then they
have two more bad ones. They had Rob Ryan before
Marinelli and Monte Kiffin. That was a rough That was
(48:01):
kind of a rough scene. They were kind of you know,
they were past their prime. They're right, really just can't
They're horrible at it. You know what, By the way,
isn't it interesting.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That that Garrett's never gotten another opportunity because it's like,
if you're decent with the Cowboys and you win a
ton of games, and I promise you when they interviewed
him for the Falcons and the Ravens before he got
the Cowboys job, he.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Blew them all away, like they were they were blown
away by Garrett. But I guess his his time as
the office coordinator with Giants just kind of ruined his reputation.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
I think, yes, I think Jason Garrett is one of
the few NFL coaches that would work very well in college.
I think he's a very pleasant guy. He's very bright,
kind of a gentle personality. He'd play to the ad
the donors. I think if Jason Garrett wanted wanted a
college job. I mean, let's say, for instance, Michigan doesn't
(49:02):
work for more, it just doesn't work. Jason Garrett. I've
said this, there's a personality matters a lot as a
college coach. It matters not one bit as a pro coach,
but it does matter as a college coach. That's why
I VOA said John Gruden and Rex Ryan could work
as college coaches. Belichick and Parcels it wouldn't work. Saban's
(49:24):
actually charming, Saban's funny, He's witty, great storyteller. Jason Garrett
could work as a college coach. And especially I mean,
he's a really nice guy. I've texted him a few times.
If you told me, you know, Sark's not leaving. If
you told me you know, I'm just trying to think
(49:45):
of a you know, Tennessee's got the right coach, so
does Alabama. You know, if you told me Michigan was
open a big job. If Marcus Freeman ever left Notre Dame,
although I don't think he should or will. I think
Jason Garrett works collegiately. That's interesting. Yeah, I think you're
I think you're right in some ways.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
If he had, if he could navigate the whole n
IO world.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Didn't he do notre name games? He's doing notre name games.
I mean, I've I've heard him doing that.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
He was, Yeah, and he and he and he does
the NBC stuff. Yeah, it's it would just be I
think he thought he was going to get the offered
the duke job at one point and maybe maybe that
was when Elko got the job or something like that.
That would have been a perfect job for him. Any
sort of a CC that thinks of itself as like
(50:36):
an IVY League, That's that's where Garrett could function brilliantly.
And let's not you know you just Richard Michigan. They
think of themselves as like lofty academics, intellectuals. What do
they call those Michigan men.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Well like that, there's a there's a term, it's called
a something Ivy Penn State, Michigan both view themselves as
that like a non traditional IVY League school. The educational
level is very high. Yeah, No, I Garrett, Garrett could
do it. College football. You're you're watching it with Belichick
(51:16):
some of that harsh Northeast grumpy ship. It doesn't work.
You gotta you gotta shake hands you gotta know, you
gotta sometimes dance in the locker room with the players.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah. Sorry, do you know Macwill said, it's very rare. Yeah,
even to your point. Even the great Saban like had
players that would imitate him. Yes, and there was fun
stuff that was probably happening and we didn't always see it.
(51:49):
But now that you see that, he kind of can
be funny and can smile and all that. But it's
hard to run a program like that anymore. Though. It's
hard to be that authoritarian, just hard fist. I mean, like,
I wonder if Lanning, I know he got beat the
other day, is Signetti. I mean, that's that's the biggest
that's the craziest story the past twenty years in college football.
(52:11):
Some dude goes into I mean, he's winning at James Madison.
Who in the world would have ever known sixties. We
had no clue, none of us, And he tried to
tell us he is the at age sixty three or
sixty four, where kind of the I've seen people in
the Big twelve like this Climb and Lance Leipol. They
are good coaches, but they're just kind of the same
(52:32):
older tough dude. Signetti came in Cockier and all get out.
He's the cockiest coach in America. And he's like sixty
five and he's like, hey, google me. You think I
don't have to win? Google me? And he's and he's
just going out there and backed it up in Indiana,
like I mean, Colin, they're like great, they're linebackers, they're
defensive ends, they're like like I just thought it was
(52:53):
He's just great, got a great scheme. What's going on here?
And it's like, no, he's got great players. I still
think that Landing is pretty unbelievable. Yeah, I do. I mean,
and again, I don't know, I don't know if that
works it. I think that guy at Arizona State, and
I know they're losing right now, that guy's good too.
At the you're right though, at the collegiate level, that
(53:15):
psycho coach can work. And Dillingham's that guy that is
on State. Landing's that guy at Oregon. But but the
but you know what's the guy at Franklin just wore
out his welcome. He won a ton of games, but
he just couldn't he couldn't break through. And now and
again the next guy, there is no guarantee in the
(53:38):
world that the next guy breaks. So, because you know
who they're gonna try to go hire, They're going to
try to hire a Penn State man. They're going to
convince themselves we need Matt Ruhle. He played linebacker here
and he's the best at a at a at a
at a press conference in college football. He's the best.
But you know what I mean, he's he's done fine
at college, but I don't think that's knock it out
(54:00):
of the park higher for pin State. And I like Matt.
He turned my own motor around.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Matt Moseley. All right, I got a run. But he's
so to you.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
We're busy, dudes, extremely extremely busy. I think I have
a tennis match waiting. The volume cost.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Of everything still out of control, and many of us
are relying on credit cards to cover essentials. If that
debt is piling up, You're not alone. You might have
considered reaching out to our friends at American Financing, but
hesitated because you don't want to give up your low
mortgage rate. Well there's good news, very good news. They've
created the Smart Equity Loan. It's a solution designed to
help you take control of your finances without touching your
(54:39):
current mortgage. Unlike a heelock, which can have varied interest rates,
the smart Equity loan offer it's a fixed rate that
means one predictable monthly payment. This loan allows you to
leverage the equity in your home to pay off high interstet,
free up your cash flow. Okay, keep your existing low
mortgage rate intact. It only takes ten minutes to get started,
no upfront or hidden fee. Just call americ Financing Today
(55:01):
eight six six seven two one thirty three hundred eight
six six seven two one thirty three hundred or American
Financing dot net slash column
Host
Colin Cowherd
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com