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July 9, 2025 34 mins
The Department of Justice (and Michael Kosta) try to gaslight Ronny Chieng about a suddenly "nonexistent" Jeffrey Epstein client list, Trump lists Benjamin Netanyahu as a reference on his Nobel Peace Prize application, and the TSA ends their foot fetish. Ronny checks in on the status of Trump's trade war, including the president's half-firm decision on another tariff delay and his new international trade pen pal, "Mr. Japan." Michael Luo, author of "Strangers in the Land: Exclusion, Belonging, and the Epic Story of the Chinese in America" and executive editor at The New Yorker, joins Ronny to discuss the untold stories of Asian American persistence and resilience in the face of bigotry. They talk about one of the worst mass lynchings in America involving Chinese immigrants, Wong Kim Ark’s Supreme Court fight for birthright citizenship, the pertinence of chronicling 19th-century expulsion during the Trump administration, and how this book became a 160,000-word response to a racial abuse incident on the Upper East Side. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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