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April 13, 2025 19 mins

Hit the streets with Daily Show correspondent Josh Johnson as he goes hunting for tax shelters, talks to New Yorkers about congestion pricing, finds out which celebrity endorsements would work on men, and convenes a focus group to better understand black voters. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Comedy Central.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Wow, welcome back to.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
The Daily Show. It was tax day this week.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
But some people, and this is crazy, don't like paying taxes,
and one of them is our own Josh Johnson.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's long been known that in America the rich often
don't pay their fair share of taxes by exploiting a
complex tax system filled with loopholes. The riches one percent
pay a lot less than the average taxpayer. But how
they do it? And could I learn their tricks to
help out the everyday taxpayer like you?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
And I?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I spoke to.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Tax expert Robert Wood of tax Froom would Lop to
find out the easiest ways to dodge the irs. His
first hip.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Real estate, big tax shelter. So generally speaking, you write
off a piece of the building every year.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So this year I'll claim the bathroom, and then like
the next year.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
But just to clarify, you only get to do this
if you own the building, not do you work here.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
That is all very interesting, but I do not learn
a building, and so back to square one.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Charity is another one.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
So let's say I start a charity and my charity
will be real, very real. Okay, my charity of broke
ass audits, like you get an audited let's break off
your broke ass a little cash.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
There are lots of people who've gotten in trouble with
fake charities.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
So that won't work.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Churches are qualified charities, which is why some people have
tried to start their own churches.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So if I start my own church, I mean, how
many followers are we taking.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I don't think they call them followers, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh, that's right, that's like a cult thing.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Another thing that wealthy people do. You've got art, how
much is it worth? Donate it to charity? And if
you donate it, how much can you fairly write off?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I have some art work I want to show you
and don't hold back.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay, no offense, but I mean it looks kind of infantile.
My guess is it's not worth very much. You need
to talk to somebody who's a qualified art appraiser.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was really banking on the art thing working out.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
You're just not there yet, Josh.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
This was not looking good for my tax return, but
there had to be something.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
One of my great tax planning secrets for you today
is dying if you own stock or if you owned
a house at some point, hang on to it. It's
the doing something with it selling that triggers tax. Then
when you die, it's never taxed. So dying turns out
to be tax efficient. That's something that wealthy people count on.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's deferring, right, Yeah, couldn't I just defer till I die?

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Okay, so kill myself. It's great, great advice.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
I want you to die generations from now.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
It's a better tax deal. Anyways.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, OK, I do have a quick question for you. Then,
Since the rich are deferring on all these assets and
higher tax lawyers to make sure that it stays complicated
and they're less likely to get audited. Ye, who is
paying tax?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Regular wage journers? I mean, everybody pays tax if they've
got income, and the wealthy people are paying tax too.
But if you look at their income versus how much
tax they're paying, they're typically paying a lot lower rates.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So if we all learn the tax law and we
all start doing these things, how will like roads get built?

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Good question. Somebody at the lower end has to be
paying the regular taxes to make room for the government
to do those things.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Just don't be poor, ok Yeah? That's terrifying.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
The more you know about tax the more terrifying it
can be. So why I don't sleep very much.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
So whether I have become rich or just died, at
least I know how to avoid my taxes like a millionaire.
I'm man, I do actually need your help picking this up.
This is like all the money that I have. Yeah,
I don't really, I'm not taking a no. No, I
didn't think you were going to take it. New Yorkers

(04:19):
disagree on a lot of things. Yankees sources, mets, pizza toppings,
whether you can poop on the subway or not. But
now there's one thing ripping New Yorker's apart more than ever.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Congestion pricing is official.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Drivers are now paying to drive us south of sixtieth Street.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I had to pay the congestion pricing. How do you
feel about it? Not too happy cars or congestion pricing cars,
both the cars. I don't like the idea of all
of those New Jersey people being taxed so hearly do
you think that maybe it should go the other way?
Maybe New York sh you have to pay nine dollars
to get into Jersey.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
Absolutely not. El Poopy wants to go to Jersey unless
they have to.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Because yeah, because cars are very important because as a
New Yorker, how old are you going to get where
you need to be besides the subway or the or
the bus or a bike or like a petticab or
the horse drawn carriage. Scooters, segues, moler blades are in again,

(05:22):
solo wheels, piggyback rides, you know from nice walking, walking
with a purpose. Yeah, yeah, we need more options.

Speaker 8 (05:31):
Well, they need the money for the MTA. It's supposedly
raised fifty million dollars a year, so you know, I
definitely feel okay to the city doing this.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
What type of improvements would be made to the MTA.

Speaker 9 (05:44):
Regular service that's completely reliable.

Speaker 8 (05:49):
Teleportation?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Teleportation is actually way more likely than the regular service.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
The first thing I would love to fix is that
we have lights everywhere. I don't have to be afraid
to walk into dark tunnel when I get out the
work at night.

Speaker 10 (06:02):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I would also like to have them have some people
maybe help the people that I see walking around naked.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm very sorry about that. That was that was me
and that was a hot day. I mean, maybe they
could use some of the money put like some glade
plugins in the subway cars. That'd be a huge improvement
right there.

Speaker 8 (06:19):
I'm guessing because of the crime rate in the subway
it is probably not the number one priorities, I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
But if I'm being mugged on the subway and it
also stinks, that's two bad things happen in me at
the same time. I want to get robs somewhere clean.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
Yeah, I think hygiene is important.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
One of my biggest hopes is that with less cars,
with less congestion, right, it'll make Airic Adams trying to
go away from the Figs a much cooler chase. You
got that, He'll be born supremacy level chase. So I mean,
less cars means less noise. Who would have thought with
less noise, I can finally hear jackhammers, I can hear sirens.

(06:59):
I can You're like hues and screams and stuff. That's
that's you know, that's showing love in New York.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
So you know I walk out this camera's love?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah A good good you let you know? Now are
you in New York? But you're really alive?

Speaker 9 (07:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Before we part ways, you do.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Taylor Swifts endorsement of Kamala Harris was a boom for
her campaign with women, but a lot of people say
she still needs to do bear with men. So I'm
here outside one of the bastions of masculinity, a gym
to talk to real men about which celebrity endorsement would
move the needle for them. Hopefully I don't get mistaken
for Terry Crews. What celebrity endorsement carries the weight for

(07:50):
you that like a Taylor Swift would carry for women?
Do you have to be alive or alive with help?
Alive is probably one of the most import things that
they could be, cause the first thing I said was Prince.
The Prince came back from the dead and was like,
my man, you gotta vote for Kamla. Would that move
the needle for you? Absolutely? Okayron Owan, why because you

(08:13):
just saw a ghosts? What about some non paranormal endorsements.
Is there a male celebrity that would make you vote
for Kamala Harris, Kendrick Lamar, Maybe Lebron He's a big guy.

Speaker 9 (08:26):
I feel like Lebron can move the needle a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay, probably Travis Scott. Travis Scott, those selects were so
twenty twenty four. How about some throwbacks. I would say,
Payam Manning, Peyton Manning, Dooner Standings, Deon Sanders, and.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Celine Dion.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's my girl, you know what I mean? Celene Dion Yes,
So everyone that you've mentioned, yes, and Celine Dion yes.
And it doesn't matter to you that she's Canadian. Oh,
it doesn't matter. So what male celebrity endorsement would move
the needle for you? I leave Michael j'all waite, Michael
Jai White, Okay, all right? And why is that he

(09:03):
works out? I work out?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know, You'll have to sit down and like really think.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
For myself, look at the issues, look at the candidates,
and then maybe of Michael Ji White.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Maybe we gotta sit down together and chit chat.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah all right, I feel like you just try to
meet Michael Jai White. Sure, he's tough, he's talented, he
got killed by the joker, I get it. But maybe
I could prove to these swow voters that they could
look to me for political guidance. There you go.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Men.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
So when it comes to bench press, right now, I'm
hitting like a clean one. Okay, that's pretty good.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
Right, fantastic really.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, oh okay, I was that's that's good news for me.
Are there any male celebrities right and we don't and
we don't have to talk about a list. They could
be in front of you right now in this moment.
Whose opinion means something to you? By a long pause,

(10:03):
clearly he was intimidated by meeting such a famous and
yolke celebrity IRL, So I decided to change the subject
to the candidates. What do you think tam Oh Harris
would have to do to appeal to more men if
she agreed to a boxing match with Logan Paul? What
do you think that would do? If that moved the
needle for her? I think if she knocks him mountain,
no doubt. Wow, Okay, knock him out gold, drag him

(10:25):
out the ring, all right? President, Round after round. He
kept me back to the same question about masculinity, like,
is Trump like a man's man to you? No, he's
not not, really.

Speaker 9 (10:35):
He's not an honest person, gotcha. And that's a big
part of being a man to me is being vulnerable,
admitting your mistakes.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
So if I'm vulnerable with you right now, that's that's manly. Yeah, Okay,
I may have fived earlier with the one twenty five,
it's really one fifteen.

Speaker 9 (10:51):
It's okay, I know you moved. Now.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Does Trump seem manly to you when you think about
like a man's man? I'm being honest.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
The reason why I respect what he says sometimes because
he speak his mind.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So for you, it's speaking your mind. That's like the
manly thing that you like. Yeah, could you tell you
straight up now?

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
So you you like that?

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Trump?

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Lets you know, from far away, far away, I'm crazy. Yeah.
At the end of the day, it seemed like the
only way to get some men to vote for Kamala
might be to trick them into it. What if they
put a forty five pound kettlebell on the lever to
vote for Kamala Harris? Do you think more guys would
do it?

Speaker 9 (11:30):
We would do it.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Put a sign that says like like try and try
and pull this, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh, man, don't even tell them the way, just be like,
I bet you can't.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
There you go, bet you can't. Okay, Yeah, that you can't.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's that should be the slogan, I bet you can't.
I mean it might if you don't understand the context.
Look pretty bad. Just say, Kamala Harris, bet you can't.
That's that that that may backfire? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
What a world?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is Josh Johnson full time Daily Show correspondent and full
time black guy. But more than that, I'm also a
part time voter. Now, black voters have been the backbone
of elected Democratic president since Bill Clinton went on our Senio.
In fact, ninety one percent of black voters vote for
Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen and ninety two percent vote
for Joe Biden last election. So why does this year

(12:26):
feel different?

Speaker 6 (12:28):
New Poland shows twenty three percent support among black.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Voters for former President Trump. That's up nineteen points since
the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Contrary to popular believe, not all black people know each other.
So in order to find out how all black people
felt about Trump, I got six from the Tri State area.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
To ask, do we see the Trump?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay? So who will you be voting for in twenty
twenty four? Darrel?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Do I have to see his name?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't want to, but more than likely it's gonna
be Trump.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I'll believe colle and then Victor.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
I'm with her?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh Biden okay? Trump? Eric Trump's Biden Biden Trump. Okay,
we're an even split, which I didn't Yeah, I didn't
see that coming. So do you think there's gonna be
a big shift, any sort of change.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I think he's gonna be a big shift me too,
shift really okay? For me, I've always been a Democrat
and it's like for the for the most part, with
the Democratic Party, they always make a bunch of promises
that they can't deliver.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
You know, they use the issues of the African American
community as a soapbox to stand on and make promises,
you know, just to get us to come out and vote.
And then once we vote and everyone's in place, it's like.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
What happened? Would you say? It's anything like somebody's in
your DM and they're really laying it down and take
you over here, girl, I'll take you to the top,
you know what I mean. And then you finally go
on the date and it's Burger King and you know,
if the polls are right and Trump is going up
with black voters, what changed?

Speaker 7 (14:08):
I wish I knew. I am not a huge fan
of Trump.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
He don't respect the black.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Person and Biden does. Has Biden issued an apology for
the things that he's been taught saying.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
He said, if you don't vote for me and you're
not black, not black, what is that?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
They have both said that we're questionable, unsavory. Yes, but
when you start looking at facts, it's like Biden, you
don't drop the ball.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Brother. Okay, So some black voters feel let down by Democrats.
But I wasn't sure if they knew about how Trump
liking himself to Black Americans. So I showed them some
footage of Trump at the Black Conservative Federation.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Gallup.

Speaker 10 (14:44):
I'm being indicted for you, the black population.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I want to play a little game all right now.
The game is going to be either fists or finger.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
If you like what's happening, you're going to put up
your your black fists.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
If you don't like where that's happening, there's a finger.

Speaker 9 (15:04):
All ready.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
You're right?

Speaker 10 (15:05):
Okay, good.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
These lights are so bright in my eyes that I
can't see too many people out there. But I can
only see the black ones. I can't see any white ones.
You say, that's how far I've come, That's how far
I've come.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Your anthem.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'll play the next clip for you real quick.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Black conservatives understand better than most that some of the
greatest evils in our nation's history have come from corrupt
systems that try to target.

Speaker 10 (15:50):
And subjugate others.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You understand that.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
I think that's why the black people are so much
on my side now, because they see what's happening to
me happens to them.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
You had me at the first question, I mean, and
then he messed up at the end.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
So okay, keep can we get our signs up? So
the same again. Okay, let's go on to the next
clip real quick.

Speaker 10 (16:13):
But I got indicted for nothing, for something that is nothing,
and a lot of people said that that's why the
black people like because they have been hurt so badly
and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as I'm
being discriminated against.

Speaker 8 (16:29):
It.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
It's been pretty amazing, all right.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
So so kind of still along the same party lines, now,
do you think Trump is being discriminated against?

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Not at all.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
It's not one side.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's the legal system. No matter who you are, if
you do these things, you get charged for it. That's it.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
There are two systems of justice. We cannot get away
with the same thing. Why folks get away with.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
But with this different sort of accountability system does it
feel like Trump is bad at being white? That is
ninety one.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
I noticed how when I was incarcerated, right, how the
white incarcerated people seem to be more angrier than the
black incarcerated people. Trump is like the same thought that
it ain't supposed to happen to me. I'm not supposed
to be indicted. People are not supposed to tell me
I committed a crime because I am privileged.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Damn, I had no idea the appeal process for incartrated
white people's gaslight. But Trump is fighting close to one
hundred fellony charges. How much of a criminal is too
much of a criminal. If more charges get racked up,
maybe things that start to become a bit more egregious.
Is that going to start to weigh on whether or
not you're going to change your vote?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now you start you pay attention, You listen to the facts,
not the fluff, and then you actually have to start
doing some searching to make sure that what's being presented
to you is actual fact.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
And it takes some digging.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Okay, So if you dug and you did your research
and you found out what Josh said was true, that's
where your vote probably not. I definitely you know, did
not sit down with this panel to change any minds,
and I clearly have not, So Yeah, I guess some

(18:27):
black folks do Trump, But was there anything I could
get this panel to agree on?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Can we keep these?

Speaker 5 (18:33):
This is so useful?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Every day?

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