Jon Stewart goes live after CNN's presidential debate to unpack Biden's senior moments and Trump's blatant lies. And psychotherapist and best-selling author of "Maybe You Should Talk to Someone" Lori Gottlieb discusses the impact of the debate on mental health and anxiety. They break down the difference between productive and unproductive anxiety during an election cycle, clashing with people on social media and how to deal with the existential fear perpetuated by news outlets.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Damn from the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central and
actually five special reporter.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
The Daily Show presents Indecision.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Twenty twenty four, the first presidential debate America watches through
its fingers with your host John Stewart show.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
My room is John Stewart. Thank you aus so very
much for joining us. We are coming to you live.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You may say, we just watched what you watched.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We just witnessed a debate between President Joseph Robinette Biden
versus former President Donald Robinette Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Was a highly anticipated affair, according to the network that
was running it.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
The first Biden Trump Debate a little over one month away.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right here on.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
CNN, we are less than two weeks away from the
first presidential.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Debate, just one week from today.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Welcome to the.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
First work day of the most important week of the
presidential campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Three days and counting, just two days now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We're about thirty hour, thirty ish hours, just over twenty
four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Twelve and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Say the words, It's.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
Debate day in America.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
The candidates must have been so excited to know that
they haven't missed it. Imagine old man Biden opening his
window and shouting at the street below.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You that boy, what day is today? Why it's debate day?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Then there's still time prepare the debate, goose. Prior to
the event, what did the political class believe would be
the criteria for each candidate to be successful in the debate?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
First, Donald Trump?
Speaker 9 (02:27):
Trump has to show that he's not going to end democracy.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Don't respond in a way that the suburban mothers wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Like, donateterrupt Joe Biden, don't take debate, don't look like
a bully, don't get angry, portray normalness.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Can't you just pretend to be normal for ninety minutes?
How is that advice for a presidential debate?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And not what you would say to your parents when
you bring home a date for the first time?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Can you not talk about January sixth?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And please don't do your Asian voice.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I really like this girl. But that's Trump.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Surely the expectations on President Biden will be higher.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
He absolutely cannot have a senior moment, a physical or
verbal stumble him forgetting something.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Any of his kind of freezing moments.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Stay alert, to stay engaged, and to stay awake.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
President Biden has to show that he can stand there
for an extended period of time, remain.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Upright, remain.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Up right to be president.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You know, I may be mistaken, but I believe those
are the same qualifications needed to be scarecrow. Tonight the
president must show in the country that he can keep
our corn safe. But then it was time for the
(04:08):
actual debate. And let's see how it began. Both men
came out and oh yes, okay, And then of course
both men are ambulatory.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
They are both upright. Level one cleared.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
It's going to be an important discussion between two important men.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
What are the rules?
Speaker 8 (04:29):
You want to share the rules of the debate with
the audience at home.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question
and one minute each for responses and rebuttals.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What can you do it? Two minute?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I can't even articulate. What's wrong with your entire setup
to this debate? An add break to watch a Hulu
show is three minutes?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
What can you do in two minutes?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
But all right, that's gonna winno out anything that might
be interesting or substance.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But let's begin.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
We know the bar that's been set up for each
to pass. Biden has to not look old and not
have a senior moment.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary
person eligible for what I've been able to do with
the with the COVID, I excuse me with dealing with
everything we have to do with what if we finally
beat medicare?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Thank you, President Biden.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I need to call a real estate agent in New Zealand. Okay,
high pressure situation. A lot of times you can confuse
saving medicare with beating it. I'm sure it's not something
that repeated throughout the debate, causing Democrats across the country
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to either jump out of windows or vomited silently into
the nearest recycling Then anybody can talking.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
How did Biden do? Not talking?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
How close the police are there almost every police group
in the nation from every state, and everybody wanted.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
To get it back to the States everybody.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
And China nothing, and Russia nothing, and India nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I will have that reporter out.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He should have had him out a long time ago,
because I didn't have legislation.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I said, close the border.
Speaker 10 (06:31):
We had the safest border in history.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Not great, but.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
A lot of people have resting twenty fifth Amendment face
I'm not a political expert, but while Biden was preparing
at Camp David for a week, did anyone mention he
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would also be on camera on the on the split screen.
Is there any moment here that can save Biden.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court
overturned Rob Wade.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh shit, we're back, baby.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Abortion ain't to the B to the O, to the AWE,
to the T to the.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
The repeal of Rov Wade. That is Trump's weakest issue.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's been a great thing. Oh he is. It's a
great thing.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Hit him, Joey, I'm a terrible thing. What you're doing,
it's this is awesome. We are done here TK.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh no, no, no, Joe, don't.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Say anything else.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Don't.
Speaker 9 (08:07):
The idea that states are able to do this is
a little like saying we're going to turn civil rights
back to the states. Let each state have a different rule. Look,
there's so many young women who have been including a
young woman who just was murdered and he went to
the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by an
immigrant coming in they talk about that.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Did you just immigration? Abortion?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I know, abortion is one of our strongest issues, but
let me for a moment talk about immigrant skilling.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And right big people. It's one of the weakest folks.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I think sportsmanship would insist that an opponent not sees
on a opportunities such as this.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
There have been many young women murdered by the same
people he allows to come across our border.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So how do we do this? Now?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Do I take his car back to the White House tonight?
I mean, come on, we done with this shit? Do
I use ups his stuff? Let mean, come on, that
was crazy what he did just now. So Biden perhaps
not on top of his game. Maybe I will check
out this young upstart Donald Trump. Obviously, the election is
a binary choice, so let me see what this Trump
(09:36):
fella is about. As we learned earlier, he just had
to come in there and not be an asshole.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
She doesn't care about our veterans.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
He doesn't like the military at all. Probably the worst
administration in history, the worst presidency in the history of
our country.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This shouldn't be a debate.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
He is the worst president. I really don't know what
he said at the end of this.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I don't think he knows what he said or either he.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Challenge me to a golf match.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
He can't hit about fifty yards.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Does not appear to have passed the asshole test. See
me after debate. All right, Trumper, what do you got
on substance?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
We're the greatest economy in the history of our country.
A lot of credit for the military and no wars
and so many other things.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Everything was rock and good.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
But the thing we never got the credit for and
we should have, is getting us out of that COVID mess.
He allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails,
and mental institutions. The only jobs he created are for
illegal immigrants. We had the lowest taxes ever. I didn't
have sex.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
With a porn star. She was a porn character actor
at best. I'm not saying she couldn't open a movie.
(11:03):
But so, just so we're.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
All clear, everything that Donald Trump said in that clip
is a lie, blatant and full. And we were tight
on time putting this together. There's plenty more. It really
makes you wonder, what's RFK Junior doing tonight. Maybe he's
got something. Wait, what's up? I'm sorry? Oh, vaccines, No,
(11:34):
I see that's but yeah, sure, there's side effects to
all of them.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, and a wormware.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, fair enough, he's vice president shill running.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
They donated, okay, anyway, There was, of course a moment
where I kind of thought we were getting substantive.
Speaker 9 (11:53):
I was recently in France for D Day and I
spoke all about those heroes that died. I went to
the World War II cemetery, World War One cemetery.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
He refused to go to.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
He was standing with his four star general and he
told me, said, I don't want to go in there
because they are a much of a loser and suckers.
My son was not a loser, was not a sucker.
You're the sucker.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You're the loser. Shit just got real.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The first of all, that was a made up quote, a.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Made up quote, which I think a trump land means.
That's a real quote. That's a quote.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
But there's about our nation's veterans. Foreign policy. This is
important to Biden.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Come on, brother, the war star general stand your side,
was on your staff.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Who said you said it period.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
We've done more for veterans than any president has in
American history. The only sacred obligation we have as the
country is to care for our veterans when they come
home and their families and equip them when they go
to war.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's what we're doing.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
That's what the VA is doing. Now, they're doing more
for veterans than ever before in our history.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
All Right, thank you so much for it.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Let's move to the topic of foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Wait what, move on? No, we don't move stay on
that topic. Not move on, dot No, don't go moving on.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Who came up with these dumb ass ules and why
would any of these people agree to them. The one
thing that we did prove tonight is that the MAGA
conspiracy theory about Biden's upcoming debate performance was nonsense.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
A little before debate time, he gets a shot.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
In the ass.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
They are giving the president some sort of a stimulant,
an add drug adderall riddling.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
New drugs that are out there that are specifically for
Alzheimer's or Parkinson's, A lot.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Of caffeine pills E. Twelve debate viagriate.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, certainly there are drugs that can be used to
energize a person in that state.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I apologize for how fast I'm talking now.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I'm on those drugs. Let me just say, after watching
tonight's debate, both of these men should be using performance
(14:34):
enhancing drugs. I'm sorry, boy, as much of it as
they can get, as many times a day as their
bodies will allow. If performance enhancing drugs will improve their lucidity,
their ability to solve problems, and, in one of the
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candidate's cases, improve their truthfulness, morality and malignant narcissism.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Then suppository away. That's what everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
They should be taken whatever magical drugs can kick their
brains into gear. Because this ain't Olympic swimming, you know
what I'm saying. Oh, he solved the Middle East, but
he was doping, so it doesn't doubt there's gonna be
an asterisk next to his presidency. And by the way,
if those drugs don't exist, if there aren't actually performance
(15:29):
enhancing drugs for these candidates, I could sure use some
recreational ones right now because this cannot be real life.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It just can't.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
We're America, God, we glory, gott lead.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We'll be joining us. Don't go away? What about the
(16:15):
Daily Show? Now?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Now, My guest tonight, in an incredibly prescient booking by
our talent people, is a psychotherapist.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
HM fancy that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Best selling author of Maybe You Should talk to Someone,
A dear therapist, columnist for The Atlantic, Please welcome to
the program.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Lori Gottlieb, please on the seage dot. You're probably wondering
(17:01):
why I've called you here tonight.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Yes, well, my therapist clearly turned off his phone, so
I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Now are you expecting as a therapist on occasions like this,
they always say, you know, the Super Bowl, people get
so angry and they're rooting for their teams and there's
a huge uptick in arguments and violence and all kinds
of other things. Do you expect something similar for an
event like this.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Well, I think that a lot of people are going
to be having arguments. They don't know there's going to
be domestic violence, but I think there's definitely going to
be a lot of arguments happening with friends, families, workplaces,
all of it.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
And you think, because this is a time when the
country is really focused on this and there's really no
way to escape it, and so whatever schisms are there
are going to be exacerbated.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think they are.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
And also just because we're so polarized, and I think
that people don't know how to have conversations about the issues.
It doesn't even become about the issues anymore as we
just saw.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But we are siloed.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Isn't the siloing of the nation and keep us from
having to have those conversations because you don't really run
into those people that you disagree with too much except
on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Well, I think you run into them on social media,
and I think that that's where a lot of this
is happening. And then people's people get very upset by
what they're seeing on social media. And I can understand
when we look at the rates of anxiety and depression.
You know, we say in therapy, before diagnosing someone with depression,
make sure they aren't surrounded by assholes. Right, So I'm
not going to name who those assholes?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Is that really a thing? Like I have depression and
you're like.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Wow, Well, sometimes like I understand.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Ook at who drove you here, look at who sent
you here?
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Because the people who come to therapy are are the
people who are coming to therapy, because the people who
should be in therapy are not coming to therapy.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That just blew my mind.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
So this is people are coming because they feel they
don't have an outlet for their frustrations and the only
outlet they might have social media is toxic.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Well, I think that what you see on social media
again is a lot of this sort of you know,
name calling, and and again there's not a lot of nuance,
there's not a lot of complexity. It's a lot of
just people fighting. It was like that golf exchange, you know,
on the debate. It's those kinds of things where people
are talking about completely irrelevant things or they're just uninformed.
(19:20):
And I think that people.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Uninformed and irrelevant a presidential debate. How do you deal
with there is an existential fear to this. I mean,
for social media to keep people engaged, for news organizations
to keep people watching, they have to ramp up the
urgency and the existential nature of the crisis. So you're
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sort of torn between.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
These two impulses.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
One is to not participate, which would be addocating civic responsibility,
but the other would be to base yourself in this
existential crisis.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
What choice do you have?
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Well, we do have a choice because so look at anxiety.
There's productive anxiety and unproductive anxiety. So well, think about it,
if you didn't have anxiety, you wouldn't be able to
be safe. That's why we have anxiety. It was like
there's a bear. You better have anxiety. Your unproductive anxiety
is I'm just going to stand here. Productive anxiety is
(20:26):
I'm going to do something about this.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
See that's so.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Weird because my anxiety has never saved me from bears,
but it often convinces me I'm not lovable.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
So how how.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I shared too much?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
How do you just going to say?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
How do you suffer? I watched it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I didn't want to watch the debates tonight, but I
do work once a week now, so I have to
because that's it's toxic to me. I know that I
have to participate. But how does that anxiety of watching it?
How is that a relic of something.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's good for me?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
It's good for you because then you can take action.
By the way, I hope you're taking action on the
unlovable thing. I hope you're getting some help.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
With that little thing called mushrooms baby micro dos away.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Sorry, but it's helpful because you say, Okay, there are
two ways you can respond to this. You can say
I'm gonna put my head in the sand and not engage,
which is I hope not the option that people here
are taking. And you can also say, oh, I'm just
spinning an anxiety, I'm doom scrolling, I'm just you know,
getting all worked up. Yes, that's not helpful, that's unproductive anxiety.
And then there's productive anxiety where you say what can
(21:38):
I do well? You can get involved in a campaign,
you can volunteer, you can please vote, you can get
the people around you to vote. There are things that
you can do. The thing that you want to do
is you want to say what can I control here?
And that's where you take your anxiety and you say
it's going to motivate me to do something productive.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Does sitting in your underwear, screaming at the tea the
account as action, No.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Doc, you're losing me here.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Have you seen an effect of this on relationships, on marriages,
on families?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Have you want?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is this separating people at a much deeper, more emotional
level than what we're understanding.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
You know, when I see couples in therapy, often when
they come in, the person, you know, you say what's
going on, and the person wants something to change, But
what they want to change is the other person, the
person sitting right there. Sure they don't think I want
to change myself or I have a role in this,
and I see that in what happens around these political
conversations is that people don't say, oh, maybe I am
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not being curious about why they think what they think,
or I'm not really getting to the bottom of it,
and I'm just you know, we're just yelling at each
other about this.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Are you seeing this in couple in married couples where
paulics has driven a wedge to them that is that
they can't overcome.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Or absolutely, how do you traverse a political conversation with
a couple?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Yeah, Well, there's this great phrase in therapy. It's saying,
I wonder. So it starts with I wonder, I got it,
I wonder you know. It's kind of like, you know,
I wonder if instead of taking another drink, maybe you
should take a walk when you're feeling sad right as.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
We unfortunately it's a live show. We're out of time.
I always say I use that all the time. I
wonder why you're such an asshole?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Check out Laurie's book.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Maybe you just go up to someone for calling in
the Atlantic, I'm got me.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That is our shark tonight here it is. The moment
is that John Berman joins us now from inside the
debate Hall.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So, John, how's it working. What's it like?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Well, twenty four hours from now, in a few minutes, Anderson,
you're gonna have a president and a former president standing
on the same stage.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Pretty close to each other.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
These luck turns are just eight feet apart. I can
basically touch them at the same time with my arms out.
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The Daily Show presents Indecision.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Twenty twenty four, the first presidential debate America watches through
its fingers with your host John Stewart show.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
My room is John Stewart. Thank you aus so very
much for joining us. We are coming to you live.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You may say, we just watched what you watched.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We just witnessed a debate between President Joseph Robinette Biden
versus former President Donald Robinette Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Was a highly anticipated affair, according to the network that
was running it.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
The first Biden Trump Debate a little over one month away.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right here on.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
CNN, we are less than two weeks away from the
first presidential.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Debate, just one week from today.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Welcome to the.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
First work day of the most important week of the
presidential campaign.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Three days and counting, just two days now.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We're about thirty hour, thirty ish hours, just over twenty
four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Twelve and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Say the words, It's.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
Debate day in America.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
The candidates must have been so excited to know that
they haven't missed it. Imagine old man Biden opening his
window and shouting at the street below.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You that boy, what day is today? Why it's debate day?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Then there's still time prepare the debate, goose. Prior to
the event, what did the political class believe would be
the criteria for each candidate to be successful in the debate?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
First, Donald Trump?
Speaker 9 (02:27):
Trump has to show that he's not going to end democracy.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Don't respond in a way that the suburban mothers wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Like, donateterrupt Joe Biden, don't take debate, don't look like
a bully, don't get angry, portray normalness.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Can't you just pretend to be normal for ninety minutes?
How is that advice for a presidential debate?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
And not what you would say to your parents when
you bring home a date for the first time?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Can you not talk about January sixth?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
And please don't do your Asian voice.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I really like this girl. But that's Trump.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Surely the expectations on President Biden will be higher.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
He absolutely cannot have a senior moment, a physical or
verbal stumble him forgetting something.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Any of his kind of freezing moments.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Stay alert, to stay engaged, and to stay awake.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
President Biden has to show that he can stand there
for an extended period of time, remain.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Upright, remain.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Up right to be president.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You know, I may be mistaken, but I believe those
are the same qualifications needed to be scarecrow. Tonight the
president must show in the country that he can keep
our corn safe. But then it was time for the
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actual debate. And let's see how it began. Both men
came out and oh yes, okay, And then of course
both men are ambulatory.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
They are both upright. Level one cleared.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
It's going to be an important discussion between two important men.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
What are the rules?
Speaker 8 (04:29):
You want to share the rules of the debate with
the audience at home.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question
and one minute each for responses and rebuttals.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What can you do it? Two minute?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I can't even articulate. What's wrong with your entire setup
to this debate? An add break to watch a Hulu
show is three minutes?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
What can you do in two minutes?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
But all right, that's gonna winno out anything that might
be interesting or substance.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But let's begin.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
We know the bar that's been set up for each
to pass. Biden has to not look old and not
have a senior moment.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary
person eligible for what I've been able to do with
the with the COVID, I excuse me with dealing with
everything we have to do with what if we finally
beat medicare?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Thank you, President Biden.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I need to call a real estate agent in New Zealand. Okay,
high pressure situation. A lot of times you can confuse
saving medicare with beating it. I'm sure it's not something
that repeated throughout the debate, causing Democrats across the country
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to either jump out of windows or vomited silently into
the nearest recycling Then anybody can talking.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
How did Biden do? Not talking?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
How close the police are there almost every police group
in the nation from every state, and everybody wanted.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
To get it back to the States everybody.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
And China nothing, and Russia nothing, and India nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I will have that reporter out.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He should have had him out a long time ago,
because I didn't have legislation.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I said, close the border.
Speaker 10 (06:31):
We had the safest border in history.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Not great, but.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
A lot of people have resting twenty fifth Amendment face
I'm not a political expert, but while Biden was preparing
at Camp David for a week, did anyone mention he
(07:15):
would also be on camera on the on the split screen.
Is there any moment here that can save Biden.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court
overturned Rob Wade.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh shit, we're back, baby.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Abortion ain't to the B to the O, to the AWE,
to the T to the.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
The repeal of Rov Wade. That is Trump's weakest issue.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's been a great thing. Oh he is. It's a
great thing.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Hit him, Joey, I'm a terrible thing. What you're doing,
it's this is awesome. We are done here TK.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh no, no, no, Joe, don't.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Say anything else.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Don't.
Speaker 9 (08:07):
The idea that states are able to do this is
a little like saying we're going to turn civil rights
back to the states. Let each state have a different rule. Look,
there's so many young women who have been including a
young woman who just was murdered and he went to
the funeral. The idea that she was murdered by an
immigrant coming in they talk about that.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Did you just immigration? Abortion?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
I know, abortion is one of our strongest issues, but
let me for a moment talk about immigrant skilling.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
And right big people. It's one of the weakest folks.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I think sportsmanship would insist that an opponent not sees
on a opportunities such as this.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
There have been many young women murdered by the same
people he allows to come across our border.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So how do we do this? Now?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Do I take his car back to the White House tonight?
I mean, come on, we done with this shit? Do
I use ups his stuff? Let mean, come on, that
was crazy what he did just now. So Biden perhaps
not on top of his game. Maybe I will check
out this young upstart Donald Trump. Obviously, the election is
a binary choice, so let me see what this Trump
(09:36):
fella is about. As we learned earlier, he just had
to come in there and not be an asshole.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
She doesn't care about our veterans.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He doesn't care.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
He doesn't like the military at all. Probably the worst
administration in history, the worst presidency in the history of
our country.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This shouldn't be a debate.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
He is the worst president. I really don't know what
he said at the end of this.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I don't think he knows what he said or either he.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Challenge me to a golf match.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
He can't hit about fifty yards.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Does not appear to have passed the asshole test. See
me after debate. All right, Trumper, what do you got
on substance?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
We're the greatest economy in the history of our country.
A lot of credit for the military and no wars
and so many other things.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Everything was rock and good.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
But the thing we never got the credit for and
we should have, is getting us out of that COVID mess.
He allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails,
and mental institutions. The only jobs he created are for
illegal immigrants. We had the lowest taxes ever. I didn't
have sex.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
With a porn star. She was a porn character actor
at best. I'm not saying she couldn't open a movie.
(11:03):
But so, just so we're.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
All clear, everything that Donald Trump said in that clip
is a lie, blatant and full. And we were tight
on time putting this together. There's plenty more. It really
makes you wonder, what's RFK Junior doing tonight. Maybe he's
got something. Wait, what's up? I'm sorry? Oh, vaccines, No,
(11:34):
I see that's but yeah, sure, there's side effects to
all of them.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, and a wormware.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Okay, fair enough, he's vice president shill running.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
They donated, okay, anyway, There was, of course a moment
where I kind of thought we were getting substantive.
Speaker 9 (11:53):
I was recently in France for D Day and I
spoke all about those heroes that died. I went to
the World War II cemetery, World War One cemetery.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
He refused to go to.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
He was standing with his four star general and he
told me, said, I don't want to go in there
because they are a much of a loser and suckers.
My son was not a loser, was not a sucker.
You're the sucker.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You're the loser. Shit just got real.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
The first of all, that was a made up quote, a.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Made up quote, which I think a trump land means.
That's a real quote. That's a quote.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
But there's about our nation's veterans. Foreign policy. This is
important to Biden.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
Come on, brother, the war star general stand your side,
was on your staff.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Who said you said it period.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
We've done more for veterans than any president has in
American history. The only sacred obligation we have as the
country is to care for our veterans when they come
home and their families and equip them when they go
to war.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's what we're doing.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
That's what the VA is doing. Now, they're doing more
for veterans than ever before in our history.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
All Right, thank you so much for it.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Let's move to the topic of foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Wait what, move on? No, we don't move stay on
that topic. Not move on, dot No, don't go moving on.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Who came up with these dumb ass ules and why
would any of these people agree to them. The one
thing that we did prove tonight is that the MAGA
conspiracy theory about Biden's upcoming debate performance was nonsense.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
A little before debate time, he gets a shot.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
In the ass.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
They are giving the president some sort of a stimulant,
an add drug adderall riddling.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
New drugs that are out there that are specifically for
Alzheimer's or Parkinson's, A lot.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Of caffeine pills E. Twelve debate viagriate.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Well, certainly there are drugs that can be used to
energize a person in that state.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I apologize for how fast I'm talking now.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I'm on those drugs. Let me just say, after watching
tonight's debate, both of these men should be using performance
(14:34):
enhancing drugs. I'm sorry, boy, as much of it as
they can get, as many times a day as their
bodies will allow. If performance enhancing drugs will improve their lucidity,
their ability to solve problems, and, in one of the
(14:56):
candidate's cases, improve their truthfulness, morality and malignant narcissism.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Then suppository away. That's what everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
They should be taken whatever magical drugs can kick their
brains into gear. Because this ain't Olympic swimming, you know
what I'm saying. Oh, he solved the Middle East, but
he was doping, so it doesn't doubt there's gonna be
an asterisk next to his presidency. And by the way,
if those drugs don't exist, if there aren't actually performance
(15:29):
enhancing drugs for these candidates, I could sure use some
recreational ones right now because this cannot be real life.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
It just can't.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
We're America, God, we glory, gott lead.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We'll be joining us. Don't go away? What about the
(16:15):
Daily Show? Now?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Now, My guest tonight, in an incredibly prescient booking by
our talent people, is a psychotherapist.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
HM fancy that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Best selling author of Maybe You Should talk to Someone,
A dear therapist, columnist for The Atlantic, Please welcome to
the program.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Lori Gottlieb, please on the seage dot. You're probably wondering
(17:01):
why I've called you here tonight.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Yes, well, my therapist clearly turned off his phone, so
I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Now are you expecting as a therapist on occasions like this,
they always say, you know, the Super Bowl, people get
so angry and they're rooting for their teams and there's
a huge uptick in arguments and violence and all kinds
of other things. Do you expect something similar for an
event like this.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
Well, I think that a lot of people are going
to be having arguments. They don't know there's going to
be domestic violence, but I think there's definitely going to
be a lot of arguments happening with friends, families, workplaces,
all of it.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
And you think, because this is a time when the
country is really focused on this and there's really no
way to escape it, and so whatever schisms are there
are going to be exacerbated.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think they are.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
And also just because we're so polarized, and I think
that people don't know how to have conversations about the issues.
It doesn't even become about the issues anymore as we
just saw.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But we are siloed.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Isn't the siloing of the nation and keep us from
having to have those conversations because you don't really run
into those people that you disagree with too much except
on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Well, I think you run into them on social media,
and I think that that's where a lot of this
is happening. And then people's people get very upset by
what they're seeing on social media. And I can understand
when we look at the rates of anxiety and depression.
You know, we say in therapy, before diagnosing someone with depression,
make sure they aren't surrounded by assholes. Right, So I'm
not going to name who those assholes?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Is that really a thing? Like I have depression and
you're like.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Wow, Well, sometimes like I understand.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Ook at who drove you here, look at who sent
you here?
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Because the people who come to therapy are are the
people who are coming to therapy, because the people who
should be in therapy are not coming to therapy.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
That just blew my mind.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
So this is people are coming because they feel they
don't have an outlet for their frustrations and the only
outlet they might have social media is toxic.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Well, I think that what you see on social media
again is a lot of this sort of you know,
name calling, and and again there's not a lot of nuance,
there's not a lot of complexity. It's a lot of
just people fighting. It was like that golf exchange, you know,
on the debate. It's those kinds of things where people
are talking about completely irrelevant things or they're just uninformed.
(19:20):
And I think that people.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Uninformed and irrelevant a presidential debate. How do you deal
with there is an existential fear to this. I mean,
for social media to keep people engaged, for news organizations
to keep people watching, they have to ramp up the
urgency and the existential nature of the crisis. So you're
(19:47):
sort of torn between.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
These two impulses.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
One is to not participate, which would be addocating civic responsibility,
but the other would be to base yourself in this
existential crisis.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
What choice do you have?
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Well, we do have a choice because so look at anxiety.
There's productive anxiety and unproductive anxiety. So well, think about it,
if you didn't have anxiety, you wouldn't be able to
be safe. That's why we have anxiety. It was like
there's a bear. You better have anxiety. Your unproductive anxiety
is I'm just going to stand here. Productive anxiety is
(20:26):
I'm going to do something about this.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
See that's so.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Weird because my anxiety has never saved me from bears,
but it often convinces me I'm not lovable.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
So how how.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I shared too much?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
How do you just going to say?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
How do you suffer? I watched it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I didn't want to watch the debates tonight, but I
do work once a week now, so I have to
because that's it's toxic to me. I know that I
have to participate. But how does that anxiety of watching it?
How is that a relic of something.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That's good for me?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
It's good for you because then you can take action.
By the way, I hope you're taking action on the
unlovable thing. I hope you're getting some help.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
With that little thing called mushrooms baby micro dos away.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Sorry, but it's helpful because you say, Okay, there are
two ways you can respond to this. You can say
I'm gonna put my head in the sand and not engage,
which is I hope not the option that people here
are taking. And you can also say, oh, I'm just
spinning an anxiety, I'm doom scrolling, I'm just you know,
getting all worked up. Yes, that's not helpful, that's unproductive anxiety.
And then there's productive anxiety where you say what can
(21:38):
I do well? You can get involved in a campaign,
you can volunteer, you can please vote, you can get
the people around you to vote. There are things that
you can do. The thing that you want to do
is you want to say what can I control here?
And that's where you take your anxiety and you say
it's going to motivate me to do something productive.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Does sitting in your underwear, screaming at the tea the
account as action, No.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Doc, you're losing me here.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Have you seen an effect of this on relationships, on marriages,
on families?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Have you want?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is this separating people at a much deeper, more emotional
level than what we're understanding.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
You know, when I see couples in therapy, often when
they come in, the person, you know, you say what's
going on, and the person wants something to change, But
what they want to change is the other person, the
person sitting right there. Sure they don't think I want
to change myself or I have a role in this,
and I see that in what happens around these political
conversations is that people don't say, oh, maybe I am
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not being curious about why they think what they think,
or I'm not really getting to the bottom of it,
and I'm just you know, we're just yelling at each
other about this.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Are you seeing this in couple in married couples where
paulics has driven a wedge to them that is that
they can't overcome.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Or absolutely, how do you traverse a political conversation with
a couple?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Yeah, Well, there's this great phrase in therapy. It's saying,
I wonder. So it starts with I wonder, I got it,
I wonder you know. It's kind of like, you know,
I wonder if instead of taking another drink, maybe you
should take a walk when you're feeling sad right as.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
We unfortunately it's a live show. We're out of time.
I always say I use that all the time. I
wonder why you're such an asshole?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Check out Laurie's book.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Maybe you just go up to someone for calling in
the Atlantic, I'm got me.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
That is our shark tonight here it is. The moment
is that John Berman joins us now from inside the
debate Hall.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So, John, how's it working. What's it like?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Well, twenty four hours from now, in a few minutes, Anderson,
you're gonna have a president and a former president standing
on the same stage.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Pretty close to each other.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
These luck turns are just eight feet apart. I can
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