June 4, 2024 • 45 mins
Jon Stewart breaks down the response to Trump's guilty verdict from Joe Biden and the media, as well as the GOP's vow for revenge and hypocritical complaint about Democrats pursuing "political prosecutions." Plus, Jon pleads with the media to act a little more like the court system and examine evidence and reach conclusions, instead of wildly speculating on future realities. Also, Former Republican Colorado Representative Ken Buck joins Jon to discuss his early resignation from Congress and why he doesn’t align with the principles of the MAGA wing of the Republican Party.
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Now listen.
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It's been rough for me. Now that my Knicks and
my Rangers are out of the playoffs, I'm ready to
focus on the world. There was a lot going on today.
Doctor Anthony Fauci testified.
Speaker 8 (01:06):
In front of Congress today and ironically contracted rabies there terrible,
but his testimony was obviously about whether or not the
pandemic was caused by a lab leak.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I just will never know.
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Don't say it's to it.
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come to lie to Congress.
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What did I say?
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Come to address Congress through the art of lyne.
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And Mexico has just elected its first female and its
first Jewish president, so I'm very much looking forward to
NPR's coverage of it because they are always they are
always very careful to pronounce names authentically, so I'm sure
it'll be like turning me out of the newly elected
Mexican President Claudia.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Shangel with the show, with the show.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
But of course, the biggest story continues to be the
reaction to former President Trump's trial convictions. For the left,
the conviction was an exercise in concealed and controlled glee.
Many took the opportunity to over demonstrate.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
How they took no pleasure.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
From this day that they had been dreaming about since childhood.
Speaker 9 (02:50):
It was a somber and sad day for America that
we have now seen a former president convicted on three
four fellow accounts.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I would hope we could all agree that this is
a sad moment.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
The justice system had an honorable day, our country had.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
A sad day, and Faris Beulah had the day off.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Perhaps nothing personified the delicate high wire between glee and
gravitas more than President Biden's schesher cat press conference.
Speaker 10 (03:22):
Encore, mister president, can you tell us, sir Donald Trump
prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
What's your response?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
No, don't stop, don't go, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Why can't they tell him just.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Fucking keep walking whenever he's out in public and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
He stops.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
No blaino, okay, go sir? Do you think the condition
will have an impact on the campaign. We'd love to
hear your thoughts, sir.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Why does everything have to be so far weird? Why
if you have something to say about it, say it.
If you don't have something to say about it, don't say.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
But you're just.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
Gonna stop and hit him with some kind of seventies
sitcom freeze frame. Mister president, what do you think of
the conviction?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Why so?
Speaker 6 (04:59):
For Democrats have worth?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
The challenge is how do we exploit the moment politically?
Put out giving the impression that this was the plan,
all of law Republicans needed to employ a slightly different strategy.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So this was a sham ragged political show trial from
the very beginning.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
This is the most outrageous travesty I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
This was not law, This was not criminal justice.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This was politics.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
This was a political smear job.
Speaker 10 (05:25):
I guess we all need to shop at Banana Republic
from now.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
On, because that's what it feels like. Yeah, a Banana Republic.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
After this trial, we need to shop at Old Navy
because our country is a sinking ship.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
It was a sham.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
A sham. This trial a sham.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I say it was a sham.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I'm shopping.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I don't name.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
The trial was a sham.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
Yes, impaneled grand juries and submitted evidence and cross examined witnesses.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
But how is.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Donald Trump or his family not allowed on the jury? Outrageous?
I guess in America now we need to start shopping
at Banobo's because our country is getting at both ends.
You see, if I may, Bonobos are highly sexual apes
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frequently engage in activities with multiple partners. Oh, I'm going
to be a big hit on primadologist Dick Dock. But
maybe our justice system wasn't a sham, but certainly applying
our justice system to Donald Trump was.
Speaker 11 (06:48):
This is the weaponization of the justice system against their
political opponent.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
This is a justice system that hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Oh my god, the justice system hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.
Someone should mention that to such unprotected Democrats as Senator
Robert Menendez and Congressman Henry Quay are both facing corruption
charges brought by our Department of Justice. Not to mention,
Hunter Biden was facing Jerry's selection in a federal gun
chargers trial today. That's probably what you notice everyone on
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Fox and Friends this morning using pillows to cover their
boners it. But now you've done it, Liberals, through your
sham organization, the good arted and good.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Intention denizens of Magatania have finally been pushed too far.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Be ready because on January twenty of next year, when
he's former president Joe Biden, what's good for the goose
is good for the gander.
Speaker 10 (07:46):
And Daily Wires Matt Walsh said Trump should quote make
and publish a list of ten high ranking Democrat.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
Criminals who he will have arrested when he takes office.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
These Democrats will rule the day they decided to use
law fair to stop a presidential candidate. It won't be
Hunter Biden the next time. It's going to be Joe Biden.
It could potentially still be Barack Obama. It could still
potentially be Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
It could be Barack Obama.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
First of all, why is she broadcasting in front of
Georgia o'keef's vagina? And second, perhaps it is time for
those on the right to begin to examine what it
might be like to investigate Hillary and William Clinton, or
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perhaps to do it continuously and relentlessly for the last
thirty years. But to admit their own political gamesmanship, their
own attempts at weaponizing justice, their own relentless pursuit of opponents,
their own dehumanizing rhetoric towards the left, would be to
allow a molecule of reality into the air tight distortion
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field that has been created to protect Macedonians from the
harsh glare of actuality. It is a place where a
moment such as this next one can pass without so
much as a gasp of what planet do you live on?
Speaker 6 (09:27):
For it is clearly not ours.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, locker up. You declined
to do that as president.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I didn't say locker up, but the people don't say
locker up, locker up?
Speaker 6 (09:53):
What the fuck.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
You never said locker I think I remember you saying
it to her face.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
At a debate.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of
Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in
our country, because you'd be in jail.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
To be fair, I apologize. You did not say the
words lock her up. You only used a phrase synonymous
with locking her up. Again, apologies, you didn't say lock
her up. You merely gave the thumbs up to thousands
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of others chanting lock her up. But that doesn't mean
he literally said lock her up. Although to be fair,
he literally said lock.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Her up all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
So cooking Hillary anyway, crook it that you should lock
her up.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I'll tell you. For what she's done, they should lock
her up.
Speaker 11 (11:00):
Her up is right, lock up the vibes, lock up Hillary.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And we sallion time and then the.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
And the Fox and Friends b team is just sitting there, tanned.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
And fit, healthy and so lockable.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
How did they get seld He's good looking bunch.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
But there's three of them. One of them didn't remember
he said lock them up. I can believe two of
them didn't remember. Three of them.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
And that, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you is
why we need courts.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Whatever flaws the American.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
Justice system has, and they are legion, especially for non
billionaire former presidents, it does appear to be the last
place in America where you can't just say whatever the
fact you want, regardless of reality.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Trump knows this better than anyone. Now.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I would have testified. I wanted to testify.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The theory is you never testify because as soon as
you testify anybody. If it were George Washington, don't testify
because they'll get you in something that you said slightly
wrong and then they sue you for perjury. You would
have said something out of whack, like it was a
beautiful sunny day and it was actually raining out.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Yes, our jails in America are filled with incompetent weathermen.
I'm telling your officer, I thought there would be thundersnow
instead of chance.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Don't take me away.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
This is why the law and order right hates court
procedures when apply to them. Courts are the last remaining
guardrail that is a standard of evidentiary presentation. It is
the last place where you have to prove what you say.
And you see the difference in what they say out
of court versus what they say in court. Here is
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Trump on the twenty twenty election. Out of court, this.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Is a fraud on the American public. We know there
was massive fraud.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It was a rigged election.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Here are his lawyers in court. This is not a
fraud case. We are not pledging fraud in this lawsuit.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
We're not alleging that anyone's stealing the election.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Here is Rudy Giuliani pleading before the court of seasonal Landscapers.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
What happened there?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's a mix up.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
He's pleading, but not in the actual court.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's a fraud, an absolute fraud.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
And what does Juliani say about that in court?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
If we had it led fraud? Yes, but this is
is not a fraud case.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
It's not a fraud case in court where I would
need evidence. It's only a fraud case out there amongst
the sod and the mulch, where I can say whatever
I want. Fox News says that dominion voting machines rigged
the election for Biden.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Out of court.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
They were flipping votes in the computer system or adding
votes that did not exist. The whole situation was carefully
calculated and created to steal the election from President Trump.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Did you notice as the fraud trial went on, Sydney
Powell turned into Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Is that it ended that segment with.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But that's where you.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Can say out of court, But in court, Fox was
forced to pay seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars
for false statements. The difference between in court and out
of court is that in court someone can say, prove it,
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and the problem is that most of the time in
this country, our political leaders are not in court. They
are here on TV, where the news media has decided
that there's really no such thing as reality.
Speaker 11 (15:37):
We now live in two utterly different universes.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
These two Americas are living in two different realities. We're
living in two different realities.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Americans are living in two for the most part, two
very different realities right now.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
No, you're thinking of the multiverse.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
We are all living in one reality, and it can
be the news media's job to litigate the parameters of
said reality. What the courts do really well is look
backwards and reconstruct the realities of what happened.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
The news media could do the same, but.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
What they do instead is look forward and wildly speculate
on the future.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
If Donald Trump is the nominee, and if he is
convicted of a crime, could you support him?
Speaker 10 (16:30):
If he's a convicted felon, If he is the Republican nominee,
does that mean you're still going to vote for him?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He could be convicted before November.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Would you still support him?
Speaker 12 (16:37):
Then?
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Will you commit to certifying the twenty twenty four election
results no matter who wins?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Let me look forward?
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Will you accept the election results of twenty twenty four,
No matter what happened, Senator.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
No matter what Senator, voting regularities and overlords, voting machines
that suddenly transform into fighting robots, voting booth powers activate,
will you still certify?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Who thing cares?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
No one knows what the future holds. Ask this person
what it.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Was about the twenty twenty election that they found objectionable,
and then litigate the realities of their objections to them
in front of them. So when they say to you,
I never said locker up, you can say I object
they do that?
Speaker 12 (17:24):
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And you know what I gotta Here's the deal.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
You really want to ask speculative questions that nobody can answer,
We'll just create a show just for that.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
We'll tike it down to a half hour and call.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It No One Knows, And you can put all the.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Polls and the horse race questions in there, and then
with the other twenty three and a half hours in
the day, there's seventies a week. You can present the
evidence for our shared experience. Because court should be the
option of last resort for our defined reality, not the
only option for our defined reality.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
So listen up, media, We'll give you a little gavel.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
You can study all the evidence, no matter how tedious,
and reach a conclusion, and then you can present those
conclusions and the audience us. We'll be the ones doing
like jury duty willingly without penalty of law, or without
trying to come up with any excuse to avoid having
to do jury duty.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I think I'm seeing the flaw in my argument. Either way,
it's better than what we have now.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
When we come back, ken Buck.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Will be joining us. Don't go away.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Where about the programs?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
I guess tonight A Republican who used to represent Colorado's
fourth district in Congress for nine years until his resignation
in March, please weapon in the program, former Congressman ken Buck?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
How are you now?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
For those in the units that might not know so, sir,
you are a congressman for nine years, conservative bona fides,
I mean, impeccable, and yet not strong enough in fealty
to the Trump world that you were immune from the
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pressure and the penalties that they might place on you.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, Donald Trump's not a conservative.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Exactly, but now you're the rhino you with and you
and I probably disagree on most things.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Hopefully everything.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well done, sir, well done.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
But what is the pressure, like, you know, I see
so many Republican stalwarts who are on the record as saying,
this man is a con man, this man is not
worthy of the highest office of the presidency, this man
defiles our great country. I'm supporting him in twenty twenty four.
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What is the mental process of that?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, it's really pretty simple. In order to get elected,
you've got to get fifty one percent of the vote,
and so there's this combination of wanting to do the
right thing. So you run for office, and then you
need to be popular in order to win. And the
Republican Party now a majority of Republican primary voters are
MAGA supporters, and so you don't want to make the
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man mad. Who is really in control or strongly influencing
the MAGA voters. So those folks are making a calculation.
They want to stay in office.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
What is there in your mind? What's the percentage of that?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
How much of it is cynical calculation and how much
of it is people like yourself leave and they are
filled in by real ideologues who believe in that message.
The message of it's really whatever Trump wants having nothing
to do with conservative principle.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I think that there's one hundred percent of the folks
who are running for office who recognize that if they're
going to win a Republican primary, they need to be
Trump supporters.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Right, And that's what's happening.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Was there discussion behind the scenes in Congress where people
would say, I want this to end?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Do they feel hostage to that?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
In both parties? Honestly, in both parties there is a
real problem with the folks who are at the head
of the ticket. Obviously Dean Phillips felt that way on
the left.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Sure, no, I was a big Phillips supporter. I really
thought he was going to go all the way. Remind
me again, who is Dean Phillips now? But you've said
so you've watched this process play out with Donald Trump.
It would you say it's fair that it literally drove
you from Congress.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I would not win a primary in the next election,
or if I want a primary, it would be because
there were so many people who wanted to run against
me that they split.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
And what was the crime that you committed?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Because your positions hadn't changed, So tell me the crime
you committed.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So I don't know that it's a crime. Now that
we're talking about verdicts and things like that, let's just
trying to stay away from whatever crime.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You are not under.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oath in anyway, whatever crime I committed, the statute of
limitations probably hasn't run, so I want to make sure
I'm clear there. But my goal in leaving Congress was
to leave undefeated and unindicted, and I have accomplished that goal.
So I'm very happy about.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
You gotta aim higher next time, you gotta.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
You do have a frustration and complaints about the process
of this Donald Trump trial. I think you called it
shameful president. No, shameful president, is that correct? A shameful precedent.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think it is a bad president. And I was
a prosecutor for twenty five years.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Why do you think it's a bad president.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It is a bad precedent because lady Justice, blindfold, scale sword,
the image of Lady Justice.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
We went out in the seventies. I'm very familiar.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
In this case. The blindfold came off, the blindfold is
on because people shouldn't be targeted and the system is flawed.
I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. People shouldn't be
targeted because they're white or black, man or woman, Republican Democrat,
Rich Poor. The blindfold came off and Donald Trump was targeted.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Now how was he? I'm curious how he was targeted?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
So Cyrus Vance was the previous DA declined this case.
Alvin Bragg brought a case where the misdemeanor had the
statueations had expired, found a felony to extend that statue limitations,
and then brought the case.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
I found a felony or there was a felony.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, there wasn't a felony for the previous district attorney.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
I mean many times district attorneys will say I don't
think the evidence gets to that standard. But another district
attorney might come in and say, oh, no, that's a felony.
He's doing that in order to manipulate an election.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
That's a felony.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So this district attorney declined the case. Alvin Bragg declined
the case and then brought the case. And there was
significant political pressure to bring the case. And that's something
that our justice system needs to be insulated from. And
the federal system has done a fairly good job of
being insulated. You've got Hunter Biden, You've got special council appointed.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
On But Hunter Biden wouldn't be up against charges if
he wasn't Hunter Biden, he'd be just some dude who
brought a gun somewhere. He wouldn't be facing the charges
he's facing.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, we probably disagree about that. I think that hopefully
Hunter Biden.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
We think Hunter Biden would be facing rather than like
a rehab stint or something along those lines. You think
the attention on Hunter Biden would be occurring whether his
name was Hunter Biden or not.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I prosecuted hundreds of gun cases, some of them because
drug dealers, drug users, drug addicts had purchased a gun.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Yes, but doesn't that say more about this country's view
on drug cases and how we prosecute them, and how
we excuse white collar crime. We basically have a bargain
with white collar crime where we say, how about if
you give us like five percent of it and everything.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I'll be following?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Like, isn't isn't that not speak to political targeting? But
the way that we diminish white collar crimes? I mean,
two thousand and eight, the financial system collapsed and one
dude went to jail for like three months.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean, I think Martha Stewart did a longer stint.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Which was a white collar crime, by the way, But yeah,
I think that I was a white collar prosecutor for
much of my twenty five years. Absolutely, a black kid
walks into a bank, robs a bank. Twenty years a
white guy at a bank, steals millions of dollars compared
to twelve hundred dollars, gets off with probation or goes
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to a camp in Florida for a few months. Absolutely inequitable.
Absolutely in Congress, and so couldn't you look.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
At this as actually not a shameful president, but an
unbelievably positive step in sending a message that the low
level of corruption that seems to be the center of
our political life is unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I mean, none of you the way I want to
look at it. But I was not a possible POSI.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I didn't think that was common apologies.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
No, no, you all get bonuses.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Ye, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So it is a dangerous precedent in my mind because
when we start charging former presidents and I'm not saying that. Look,
you think what Donald Trump did in the Land City
with the casinos and other things right there, was fraud,
and it maybe went beyond civil fraud. And there are
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plenty of things that people could look at and say
that that's a criminal case. I think when you look
at a former president and he has gone up how
many civil cases now and for criminal cases.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
But let's be clear.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I mean Donald Trump didn't come into office and boy scout,
he was probably one of the most sued individuals in
New York State history.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
I mean his first lawyer was Roy Cone.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
You don't hire Roy Cone and say to him like,
and I want to make sure everything's done on the
up and up. Like Roy Cone, I think, was Donald
Trump's lawyer and Satan's lawyer. I think, and if I
remember correctly, even Satan would say to him, like take
it down or not, Troy, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
A little bit, but pay his bills.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
He did not pay his bills.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
But my point is this is a continuation of a process.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
So the targeting aspect of it. Look, a healthy.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Country would have viewed what Donald Trump did from the
election day through January sixth, the way that he meticulously
and relentlessly pursued all avenues to overturn a democratic election.
That's what a healthy country would deal with but a
healthy country also looks at other aspects of what seemed
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to be fraud. If you have a home office and
you put it on your taxes, but you don't really
have a home office, that's a problem.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
For you, is it not?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Why isn't?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Why aren't they say like it's just a bookkeeping era
of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Donald Trump colluded
with his lawyer and a publisher of a major tabloid
to buy and bury stories not a crime that he
would deem hurtful to his election, and then use the
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finances that he paid for those stories and put them
down as not that that is a crime.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Is it not.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
He didn't put him down. He put him down in
a ledger as not a payment for it. But so
would what would he? Well, you can falsify your own books.
You just can't false by your books. When you submit
him to the I R s oh.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
So, when he had sitted him, he said, this is so.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
He said it was a legal expense. It wasn't a
campaign expense.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I understand the point you're making. So here's where this
takes us. I think I don't believe Donald Trump is
the sole threat to our democracy.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
I truly don't.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I think he is a symptom of a dissatisfaction that
people have with the democratic system where if you have
money and you're powerful, you can go. It was on
my ledger. Is a legal expense.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
It's not a real it's not a legal expense. It's
not for my election.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
It's I think they see that his prescription of our
system is correct. The system is rigged, and people's dissatisfaction
with that is what leads to Donald Trump being able
to command that dissatisfaction. Where I would disagree with him
is I don't think he wants to drain the swamp.
I think he wants the deed to the swamp signed
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over to him so that he can turn America into
just another subsidiary of the Trump organization.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
But I don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
My question to you would be, why is it bad
precedent to pursue that case legally?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Donald Trump?
Speaker 8 (30:35):
If he pursued the election fraud cases through the courts
and they impaddled a grand jury and then it went
to a trial with a jury of peers and they
decided on it, that's not illegitimate, And so why is
this illegitimate? And by the way, that's my lawyer calling
right now.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
With First of all, is that really your ring tone?
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Is your ring tone?
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Baby? Go nappy? All right?
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Sorry, getting back to our democracy.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Look, I just find all this high dudgeon really disingenuous.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
The prosecutor ran on getting Donald Trump, Well he's the DA.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
He runs on weeding out corruption.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Right, Can I answer that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Please?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I was a prosecutor ran five years, but I read
three separate times. Okay, I ran on, we've got a
combat violent crime. We've got to go after repeat offenders.
Never ran on I'm going to get that guy.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
But you could run on I'm getting white collar coruption.
Alvin Bragg didn't say I'm going to get Trump. What
he said was, I'm the most qualified. This guy has
a record in New York decades long of corruption, and
it's I think it's Look, if you were Dick Tracy
and you wanted to be the thing, wouldn't you be like,
I'm gonna get Scarfazer whoever one of the Dick Tracy
guys like this was a guy pulling that. And the
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second point to that would be this in twenty sixteen,
what was one of the platforms that Donald Trump ran on,
let's get crooked Hillary.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Thank god he's not a prosecutor.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
I understand, but do you get my point?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
The point is this guy ran on, Hillary is crooked
and I'm gonna put her in jail. And then with Biden,
he said the Biden crime faily is crooked and I'm
going to put them in jail. And then a prosecutor
in New York said, I have evidence you've committed a felony,
so we're gonna put you on trial.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
And he's like, what, how dare you sir?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 11 (32:51):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What are we dealing with? I'm about to go to jail.
Are nice?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Respectfully? Please apples and oranges? Because you've got someone in
a political system, and how many people in America believe
what a politician says.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Sorry, hey, tickets are free. I will throw you out
of here. Respectfully. We're having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
This is not rome.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
A prosecutor walks into a courtroom and tells a lie,
and that prosecutor loses a law license and probably goes
to prison.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So the difference between Alvin Bragg's saying I am going
after that person and Donald Trump saying that person should
go to prison is two different forums.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Who has the more power?
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Who has more a candidate, no, the president and someone
running for president. This is kind of a crazy argument
you're making.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
No, no, no, no, let me finish. Bill Barr. Great
Attorney General Merrick Garland, Great Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints
a special counsel and then puts the report out that
says that Joe Biden should not be prosecuted because he's
a kind gentleman with a bad memory, something to that effect.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
That's not what he said, but okay, well it's close.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
What he said was he would present to the jury
as a kindle general, which means I don't think we
can win this case because I think he's too sympathetic
a figure.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Okay, yeah, okay, very different.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I apologize. I'm not trying to slander objection.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It's just day no objection. What's the I don't know,
all right, so long a time to work.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
But the point being that if a candidate says I'm
going to get this person, then that's all Alvin Bragg
was at that time as a candidate. So why aren't
you holding Donald Trump, who's running for president to the
same standard that you would hold Alvin Bragg. And not
only that, when Donald Trump was president, he did impat
a special prosecutor to go after the Russian collusion hoax,
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that John Durham panel, and that was there to try
and get charges against Hillary Cullington. You can't be mad
at the Democrats for committing murder just because your team
only committed attempted murder like that just doesn't fly. They
were successful in their prosecution as opposed to those other
cases where you just tried to get her.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
So Donald Trump never had the authority to request a
search warrant, put handcuffs on somebody, prosecute somebody. That is
always done by an independent Department of Justice. On the
other hand, Alvin Bragg ran for office to get that
authority to do those very things. It's two separate.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Situations, not solely. And also those things come with a process.
He can't just go in there and go arrest that guy.
This isn't navalney. This is a grand jury was impaneled
of normal New Yorkers, not Alvin Brack, and he presented
his evidence and they came back and said, yeah, there's
a case here.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
So then they impaneled the jury, and then both sides
got to choose.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
You can indict a ham sandwich, that's what a grand
jury is, okay, But generally you wouldn't convict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Because at some point twelve New Yorkers would go, that's
a the hand.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Sandwich, and we will see what an appeals court does. Look,
you're putting me in an unenviable position of defending Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I've known in a long time.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I'm putting you in a position of defending the process
that he was put through. That process has standards, you
set it yourself. An appeals court is going to look
at this. There are many safeguards within our legal system,
and he's getting the benefit of almost all of them
in a way that poor New Yorkers will never get
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a sniff of.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Agree both.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
So he's getting dooier process than anybody has ever gotten.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
So I don't understand just because you.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Don't like the result. He didn't like the result of
the election. Our elections are a fraud and we're a
third world country. He doesn't like the result of a
criminal case. Our courts are a fraud. What would make
them better if they did what I wanted?
Speaker 6 (37:13):
That's not our system. No, that's a monarch.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I think what would make them better in his mind
if they didn't convict him. That's my point. Yeah, but
I don't think he wants justice in this country. I
don't think he's standing up and saying we need justice.
He said, I've been saying the election's stolen. So let's
see if we can elect election in Congress. I didn't
win in the courts, so let's let's go to Congress.
I wanted to certify those electors.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
By the way, you and I, you walked out here
and you said to me, this is just fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I promised I wouldn't do this.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
You said to me, I bet we don't agree on anything,
and yet sir, here.
Speaker 12 (37:52):
You are.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Agree daytime.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
If we could do this.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So I just get repair.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I retract my previous comments.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
I will have a scenargrapher note those in the how
do we My point in the first segment was the
courts have been a really important stop gap. I think
our courts are there is a two tiered system, and
poor people without access get screwed. But I do think
it's played an important role in holding up certain things
in terms of corruption. I think the news media has
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forgotten that that can be part of their role. Is
that something that you think could bring a sense more
of an established reality and earned authority from the media
that could create some parameters that we can all sort
of agree on.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Is that something that you think would be possible.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I appreciate the question. I'm no longer a defense attorney
now I could go to so I think we went
from Walter Cronkite and Dan rather to entertainment, and I
think the problem.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Are you looking at me? I had nothing to do
with this.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I think the problem right now is everybody gets their
news sources in silos and they just keep getting reinforced
with certain ideas. I went to a neighbor's house the
day after the twenty twenty election. Their flag was upside down.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
You was next to the alitos.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I knocked on the door and asked them your flags.
I thought they made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Oh gosh, but it was they were sending a message.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh it's a crazy mess. There were kids playing across
the street, the refrigerator gas in the tank, there was
what's the thought?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
It was a dystopian like the last of us kind
of it. Yeah, they were falling apart. I wonder too
if the algorithm you know has played a role. You know,
people can say like, oh, they're in their silos, but
I think also the algorithms of social media incentivize you
to more and more radical content. They want to keep
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you engaged in the same way that the news media
needs kind of fear and urgency. I always say it's
built for nine eleven, but in the absence of nine
to eleven, they have to make you think like it's
nine to eleven. And I think the algorithm you know
plays a role in that as well, driving us into
those holes lacking perspective.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
I don't know what you do about that, but.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Well, one you create more competition. Facebook should have five
facebooks that they compete with, and hopefully there would be
a point where.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
What they do is they buy anything that even resembles
a budding Facebook and stick it in their Facebook drawer.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
That's the tough part.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Oh do you miss Congress in any way?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Is there something about do you feel it was a
job left undone for you? Do you feel what are
your ultimate thoughts about about leaving the way you did
and and the unfulfilled potential of a government that is
completely disconnected from the needs of its people, allowing demagogues
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like Donald Trump to rise.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Well, I left because I couldn't tell the lie twenty
Corenty election wasn't stone the January sixth defendants aren't political prisoners,
on and on and and so.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
That's him saying that, not me. I just want to
make that clear.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
If I ever decide to run for Congress as a Republican,
I just want to make sure that that's ken Buck
saying that, not me.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Continue.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So, not not telling the not agreeing to the party line.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Right, You're a victim of cancel culture.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Well I am, I'm one. I'm not a victim of
of anything. I am absolutely blessed beyond belief, with six
grandkids and plenty of six grandkids, six and a half
grandkids one on the way.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
I immediately went to like salamonic wisdom of like, no,
you're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
No, but but you know, there's a lot of life
out there besides, and it's about nothing and telling lies.
And so I made a choice to go enjoy what
I've got to left.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
What will break this fever in Washington.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
One. America does great with a crisis. Nine to twelve,
America came together and we were a unified country. I
hope we don't get for like seven hours. I hope
we don't get to that crisis point. But I think
that there is a leader out there that will unify
and help unify America. And it's somebody who I believe
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that great more, somebody who has great leadership skills, a
John F. Kennedy. You know, I probably wouldn't have said
this twenty years ago that he was a great hero,
but you look at what John F. Kennedy did in
terms of bringing the country together during the Cold War
and moving us forward. Uh, there is somebody there that
will help America heal and move forward.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
You wouldn't happen to have a name, would you.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I know it's not ke Buck, and I know it's
not one of the two. And Nate's leading the country
in the in the polls right now.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Right Well, I very much appreciate you coming back and
having the discussion with this to come back and says
again much appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Whish of that former coins gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
We're gonna take it back to do that back. That
was a.
Speaker 9 (43:57):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Everybody's gotta goshout for tonight.
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Speaker 7 (00:55):
It's been rough for me. Now that my Knicks and
my Rangers are out of the playoffs, I'm ready to
focus on the world. There was a lot going on today.
Doctor Anthony Fauci testified.
Speaker 8 (01:06):
In front of Congress today and ironically contracted rabies there terrible,
but his testimony was obviously about whether or not the
pandemic was caused by a lab leak.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I just will never know.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Don't say it's to it.
Speaker 8 (01:38):
Also, bb netting Yahoo has been invited next week to
come to lie to Congress.
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Speaker 6 (01:51):
Come to address Congress through the art of lyne.
Speaker 8 (01:55):
And Mexico has just elected its first female and its
first Jewish president, so I'm very much looking forward to
NPR's coverage of it because they are always they are
always very careful to pronounce names authentically, so I'm sure
it'll be like turning me out of the newly elected
Mexican President Claudia.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Shangel with the show, with the show.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
But of course, the biggest story continues to be the
reaction to former President Trump's trial convictions. For the left,
the conviction was an exercise in concealed and controlled glee.
Many took the opportunity to over demonstrate.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
How they took no pleasure.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
From this day that they had been dreaming about since childhood.
Speaker 9 (02:50):
It was a somber and sad day for America that
we have now seen a former president convicted on three
four fellow accounts.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I would hope we could all agree that this is
a sad moment.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
The justice system had an honorable day, our country had.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
A sad day, and Faris Beulah had the day off.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Perhaps nothing personified the delicate high wire between glee and
gravitas more than President Biden's schesher cat press conference.
Speaker 10 (03:22):
Encore, mister president, can you tell us, sir Donald Trump
prefers himself as a political prisoner and blames you directly?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
What's your response?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
No, don't stop, don't go, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Why can't they tell him just.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Fucking keep walking whenever he's out in public and.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
He stops.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
No blaino, okay, go sir? Do you think the condition
will have an impact on the campaign. We'd love to
hear your thoughts, sir.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Why does everything have to be so far weird? Why
if you have something to say about it, say it.
If you don't have something to say about it, don't say.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
But you're just.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
Gonna stop and hit him with some kind of seventies
sitcom freeze frame. Mister president, what do you think of
the conviction?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Why so?
Speaker 6 (04:59):
For Democrats have worth?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
The challenge is how do we exploit the moment politically?
Put out giving the impression that this was the plan,
all of law Republicans needed to employ a slightly different strategy.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So this was a sham ragged political show trial from
the very beginning.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
This is the most outrageous travesty I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
This was not law, This was not criminal justice.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This was politics.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
This was a political smear job.
Speaker 10 (05:25):
I guess we all need to shop at Banana Republic
from now.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
On, because that's what it feels like. Yeah, a Banana Republic.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
After this trial, we need to shop at Old Navy
because our country is a sinking ship.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
It was a sham.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
A sham. This trial a sham.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I say it was a sham.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I'm shopping.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I don't name.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
The trial was a sham.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
Yes, impaneled grand juries and submitted evidence and cross examined witnesses.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
But how is.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Donald Trump or his family not allowed on the jury? Outrageous?
I guess in America now we need to start shopping
at Banobo's because our country is getting at both ends.
You see, if I may, Bonobos are highly sexual apes
(06:29):
frequently engage in activities with multiple partners. Oh, I'm going
to be a big hit on primadologist Dick Dock. But
maybe our justice system wasn't a sham, but certainly applying
our justice system to Donald Trump was.
Speaker 11 (06:48):
This is the weaponization of the justice system against their
political opponent.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
This is a justice system that hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Oh my god, the justice system hunts Republicans while protecting Democrats.
Someone should mention that to such unprotected Democrats as Senator
Robert Menendez and Congressman Henry Quay are both facing corruption
charges brought by our Department of Justice. Not to mention,
Hunter Biden was facing Jerry's selection in a federal gun
chargers trial today. That's probably what you notice everyone on
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Fox and Friends this morning using pillows to cover their
boners it. But now you've done it, Liberals, through your
sham organization, the good arted and good.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Intention denizens of Magatania have finally been pushed too far.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Be ready because on January twenty of next year, when
he's former president Joe Biden, what's good for the goose
is good for the gander.
Speaker 10 (07:46):
And Daily Wires Matt Walsh said Trump should quote make
and publish a list of ten high ranking Democrat.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
Criminals who he will have arrested when he takes office.
Speaker 9 (07:55):
These Democrats will rule the day they decided to use
law fair to stop a presidential candidate. It won't be
Hunter Biden the next time. It's going to be Joe Biden.
It could potentially still be Barack Obama. It could still
potentially be Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
It could be Barack Obama.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
First of all, why is she broadcasting in front of
Georgia o'keef's vagina? And second, perhaps it is time for
those on the right to begin to examine what it
might be like to investigate Hillary and William Clinton, or
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perhaps to do it continuously and relentlessly for the last
thirty years. But to admit their own political gamesmanship, their
own attempts at weaponizing justice, their own relentless pursuit of opponents,
their own dehumanizing rhetoric towards the left, would be to
allow a molecule of reality into the air tight distortion
(09:07):
field that has been created to protect Macedonians from the
harsh glare of actuality. It is a place where a
moment such as this next one can pass without so
much as a gasp of what planet do you live on?
Speaker 6 (09:27):
For it is clearly not ours.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, locker up. You declined
to do that as president.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I didn't say locker up, but the people don't say
locker up, locker up?
Speaker 6 (09:53):
What the fuck.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
You never said locker I think I remember you saying
it to her face.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
At a debate.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of
Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in
our country, because you'd be in jail.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
To be fair, I apologize. You did not say the
words lock her up. You only used a phrase synonymous
with locking her up. Again, apologies, you didn't say lock
her up. You merely gave the thumbs up to thousands
(10:40):
of others chanting lock her up. But that doesn't mean
he literally said lock her up. Although to be fair,
he literally said lock.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Her up all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
So cooking Hillary anyway, crook it that you should lock
her up.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I'll tell you. For what she's done, they should lock
her up.
Speaker 11 (11:00):
Her up is right, lock up the vibes, lock up Hillary.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And we sallion time and then the.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
And the Fox and Friends b team is just sitting there, tanned.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
And fit, healthy and so lockable.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
How did they get seld He's good looking bunch.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
But there's three of them. One of them didn't remember
he said lock them up. I can believe two of
them didn't remember. Three of them.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
And that, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you is
why we need courts.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Whatever flaws the American.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
Justice system has, and they are legion, especially for non
billionaire former presidents, it does appear to be the last
place in America where you can't just say whatever the
fact you want, regardless of reality.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Trump knows this better than anyone. Now.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I would have testified. I wanted to testify.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The theory is you never testify because as soon as
you testify anybody. If it were George Washington, don't testify
because they'll get you in something that you said slightly
wrong and then they sue you for perjury. You would
have said something out of whack, like it was a
beautiful sunny day and it was actually raining out.
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Yes, our jails in America are filled with incompetent weathermen.
I'm telling your officer, I thought there would be thundersnow
instead of chance.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Don't take me away.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
This is why the law and order right hates court
procedures when apply to them. Courts are the last remaining
guardrail that is a standard of evidentiary presentation. It is
the last place where you have to prove what you say.
And you see the difference in what they say out
of court versus what they say in court. Here is
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Trump on the twenty twenty election. Out of court, this.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Is a fraud on the American public. We know there
was massive fraud.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It was a rigged election.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Here are his lawyers in court. This is not a
fraud case. We are not pledging fraud in this lawsuit.
Speaker 11 (13:34):
We're not alleging that anyone's stealing the election.
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Here is Rudy Giuliani pleading before the court of seasonal Landscapers.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
What happened there?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's a mix up.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
He's pleading, but not in the actual court.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's a fraud, an absolute fraud.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
And what does Juliani say about that in court?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
If we had it led fraud? Yes, but this is
is not a fraud case.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
It's not a fraud case in court where I would
need evidence. It's only a fraud case out there amongst
the sod and the mulch, where I can say whatever
I want. Fox News says that dominion voting machines rigged
the election for Biden.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Out of court.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
They were flipping votes in the computer system or adding
votes that did not exist. The whole situation was carefully
calculated and created to steal the election from President Trump.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Did you notice as the fraud trial went on, Sydney
Powell turned into Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Is that it ended that segment with.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But that's where you.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Can say out of court, But in court, Fox was
forced to pay seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars
for false statements. The difference between in court and out
of court is that in court someone can say, prove it,
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and the problem is that most of the time in
this country, our political leaders are not in court. They
are here on TV, where the news media has decided
that there's really no such thing as reality.
Speaker 11 (15:37):
We now live in two utterly different universes.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
These two Americas are living in two different realities. We're
living in two different realities.
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Americans are living in two for the most part, two
very different realities right now.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
No, you're thinking of the multiverse.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
We are all living in one reality, and it can
be the news media's job to litigate the parameters of
said reality. What the courts do really well is look
backwards and reconstruct the realities of what happened.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
The news media could do the same, but.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
What they do instead is look forward and wildly speculate
on the future.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
If Donald Trump is the nominee, and if he is
convicted of a crime, could you support him?
Speaker 10 (16:30):
If he's a convicted felon, If he is the Republican nominee,
does that mean you're still going to vote for him?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He could be convicted before November.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Would you still support him?
Speaker 12 (16:37):
Then?
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Will you commit to certifying the twenty twenty four election
results no matter who wins?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Let me look forward?
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Will you accept the election results of twenty twenty four,
No matter what happened, Senator.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
No matter what Senator, voting regularities and overlords, voting machines
that suddenly transform into fighting robots, voting booth powers activate,
will you still certify?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Who thing cares?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
No one knows what the future holds. Ask this person
what it.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Was about the twenty twenty election that they found objectionable,
and then litigate the realities of their objections to them
in front of them. So when they say to you,
I never said locker up, you can say I object
they do that?
Speaker 12 (17:24):
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And you know what I gotta Here's the deal.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
You really want to ask speculative questions that nobody can answer,
We'll just create a show just for that.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
We'll tike it down to a half hour and call.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It No One Knows, And you can put all the.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Polls and the horse race questions in there, and then
with the other twenty three and a half hours in
the day, there's seventies a week. You can present the
evidence for our shared experience. Because court should be the
option of last resort for our defined reality, not the
only option for our defined reality.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
So listen up, media, We'll give you a little gavel.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
You can study all the evidence, no matter how tedious,
and reach a conclusion, and then you can present those
conclusions and the audience us. We'll be the ones doing
like jury duty willingly without penalty of law, or without
trying to come up with any excuse to avoid having
to do jury duty.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I think I'm seeing the flaw in my argument. Either way,
it's better than what we have now.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
When we come back, ken Buck.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Will be joining us. Don't go away.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Where about the programs?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
I guess tonight A Republican who used to represent Colorado's
fourth district in Congress for nine years until his resignation
in March, please weapon in the program, former Congressman ken Buck?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
How are you now?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
For those in the units that might not know so, sir,
you are a congressman for nine years, conservative bona fides,
I mean, impeccable, and yet not strong enough in fealty
to the Trump world that you were immune from the
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pressure and the penalties that they might place on you.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, Donald Trump's not a conservative.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Exactly, but now you're the rhino you with and you
and I probably disagree on most things.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Hopefully everything.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well done, sir, well done.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
But what is the pressure, like, you know, I see
so many Republican stalwarts who are on the record as saying,
this man is a con man, this man is not
worthy of the highest office of the presidency, this man
defiles our great country. I'm supporting him in twenty twenty four.
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What is the mental process of that?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well, it's really pretty simple. In order to get elected,
you've got to get fifty one percent of the vote,
and so there's this combination of wanting to do the
right thing. So you run for office, and then you
need to be popular in order to win. And the
Republican Party now a majority of Republican primary voters are
MAGA supporters, and so you don't want to make the
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man mad. Who is really in control or strongly influencing
the MAGA voters. So those folks are making a calculation.
They want to stay in office.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
What is there in your mind? What's the percentage of that?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
How much of it is cynical calculation and how much
of it is people like yourself leave and they are
filled in by real ideologues who believe in that message.
The message of it's really whatever Trump wants having nothing
to do with conservative principle.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I think that there's one hundred percent of the folks
who are running for office who recognize that if they're
going to win a Republican primary, they need to be
Trump supporters.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Right, And that's what's happening.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Was there discussion behind the scenes in Congress where people
would say, I want this to end?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Do they feel hostage to that?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
In both parties? Honestly, in both parties there is a
real problem with the folks who are at the head
of the ticket. Obviously Dean Phillips felt that way on
the left.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Sure, no, I was a big Phillips supporter. I really
thought he was going to go all the way. Remind
me again, who is Dean Phillips now? But you've said
so you've watched this process play out with Donald Trump.
It would you say it's fair that it literally drove
you from Congress.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I would not win a primary in the next election,
or if I want a primary, it would be because
there were so many people who wanted to run against
me that they split.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
And what was the crime that you committed?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Because your positions hadn't changed, So tell me the crime
you committed.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So I don't know that it's a crime. Now that
we're talking about verdicts and things like that, let's just
trying to stay away from whatever crime.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You are not under.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Oath in anyway, whatever crime I committed, the statute of
limitations probably hasn't run, so I want to make sure
I'm clear there. But my goal in leaving Congress was
to leave undefeated and unindicted, and I have accomplished that goal.
So I'm very happy about.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
You gotta aim higher next time, you gotta.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
You do have a frustration and complaints about the process
of this Donald Trump trial. I think you called it
shameful president. No, shameful president, is that correct? A shameful precedent.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think it is a bad president. And I was
a prosecutor for twenty five years.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Why do you think it's a bad president.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
It is a bad precedent because lady Justice, blindfold, scale sword,
the image of Lady Justice.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
We went out in the seventies. I'm very familiar.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
In this case. The blindfold came off, the blindfold is
on because people shouldn't be targeted and the system is flawed.
I'm not saying that it doesn't happen. People shouldn't be
targeted because they're white or black, man or woman, Republican Democrat,
Rich Poor. The blindfold came off and Donald Trump was targeted.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Now how was he? I'm curious how he was targeted?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
So Cyrus Vance was the previous DA declined this case.
Alvin Bragg brought a case where the misdemeanor had the
statueations had expired, found a felony to extend that statue limitations,
and then brought the case.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
I found a felony or there was a felony.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, there wasn't a felony for the previous district attorney.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
I mean many times district attorneys will say I don't
think the evidence gets to that standard. But another district
attorney might come in and say, oh, no, that's a felony.
He's doing that in order to manipulate an election.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
That's a felony.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So this district attorney declined the case. Alvin Bragg declined
the case and then brought the case. And there was
significant political pressure to bring the case. And that's something
that our justice system needs to be insulated from. And
the federal system has done a fairly good job of
being insulated. You've got Hunter Biden, You've got special council appointed.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
On But Hunter Biden wouldn't be up against charges if
he wasn't Hunter Biden, he'd be just some dude who
brought a gun somewhere. He wouldn't be facing the charges
he's facing.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, we probably disagree about that. I think that hopefully
Hunter Biden.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
We think Hunter Biden would be facing rather than like
a rehab stint or something along those lines. You think
the attention on Hunter Biden would be occurring whether his
name was Hunter Biden or not.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I prosecuted hundreds of gun cases, some of them because
drug dealers, drug users, drug addicts had purchased a gun.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Yes, but doesn't that say more about this country's view
on drug cases and how we prosecute them, and how
we excuse white collar crime. We basically have a bargain
with white collar crime where we say, how about if
you give us like five percent of it and everything.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I'll be following?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Like, isn't isn't that not speak to political targeting? But
the way that we diminish white collar crimes? I mean,
two thousand and eight, the financial system collapsed and one
dude went to jail for like three months.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I mean, I think Martha Stewart did a longer stint.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Which was a white collar crime, by the way, But yeah,
I think that I was a white collar prosecutor for
much of my twenty five years. Absolutely, a black kid
walks into a bank, robs a bank. Twenty years a
white guy at a bank, steals millions of dollars compared
to twelve hundred dollars, gets off with probation or goes
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to a camp in Florida for a few months. Absolutely inequitable.
Absolutely in Congress, and so couldn't you look.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
At this as actually not a shameful president, but an
unbelievably positive step in sending a message that the low
level of corruption that seems to be the center of
our political life is unacceptable.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I mean, none of you the way I want to
look at it. But I was not a possible POSI.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
I didn't think that was common apologies.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
No, no, you all get bonuses.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Ye, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So it is a dangerous precedent in my mind because
when we start charging former presidents and I'm not saying that. Look,
you think what Donald Trump did in the Land City
with the casinos and other things right there, was fraud,
and it maybe went beyond civil fraud. And there are
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plenty of things that people could look at and say
that that's a criminal case. I think when you look
at a former president and he has gone up how
many civil cases now and for criminal cases.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
But let's be clear.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I mean Donald Trump didn't come into office and boy scout,
he was probably one of the most sued individuals in
New York State history.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
I mean his first lawyer was Roy Cone.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
You don't hire Roy Cone and say to him like,
and I want to make sure everything's done on the
up and up. Like Roy Cone, I think, was Donald
Trump's lawyer and Satan's lawyer. I think, and if I
remember correctly, even Satan would say to him, like take
it down or not, Troy, that's.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
A little bit, but pay his bills.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
He did not pay his bills.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
But my point is this is a continuation of a process.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
So the targeting aspect of it. Look, a healthy.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Country would have viewed what Donald Trump did from the
election day through January sixth, the way that he meticulously
and relentlessly pursued all avenues to overturn a democratic election.
That's what a healthy country would deal with but a
healthy country also looks at other aspects of what seemed
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to be fraud. If you have a home office and
you put it on your taxes, but you don't really
have a home office, that's a problem.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
For you, is it not?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Why isn't?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Why aren't they say like it's just a bookkeeping era
of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Donald Trump colluded
with his lawyer and a publisher of a major tabloid
to buy and bury stories not a crime that he
would deem hurtful to his election, and then use the
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finances that he paid for those stories and put them
down as not that that is a crime.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Is it not.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
He didn't put him down. He put him down in
a ledger as not a payment for it. But so
would what would he? Well, you can falsify your own books.
You just can't false by your books. When you submit
him to the I R s oh.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
So, when he had sitted him, he said, this is so.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
He said it was a legal expense. It wasn't a
campaign expense.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I understand the point you're making. So here's where this
takes us. I think I don't believe Donald Trump is
the sole threat to our democracy.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
I truly don't.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
I think he is a symptom of a dissatisfaction that
people have with the democratic system where if you have
money and you're powerful, you can go. It was on
my ledger. Is a legal expense.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
It's not a real it's not a legal expense. It's
not for my election.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
It's I think they see that his prescription of our
system is correct. The system is rigged, and people's dissatisfaction
with that is what leads to Donald Trump being able
to command that dissatisfaction. Where I would disagree with him
is I don't think he wants to drain the swamp.
I think he wants the deed to the swamp signed
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over to him so that he can turn America into
just another subsidiary of the Trump organization.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
But I don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
My question to you would be, why is it bad
precedent to pursue that case legally?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Donald Trump?
Speaker 8 (30:35):
If he pursued the election fraud cases through the courts
and they impaddled a grand jury and then it went
to a trial with a jury of peers and they
decided on it, that's not illegitimate, And so why is
this illegitimate? And by the way, that's my lawyer calling
right now.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
With First of all, is that really your ring tone?
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Is your ring tone?
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Baby? Go nappy? All right?
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Sorry, getting back to our democracy.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Look, I just find all this high dudgeon really disingenuous.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
The prosecutor ran on getting Donald Trump, Well he's the DA.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
He runs on weeding out corruption.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Right, Can I answer that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Please?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
I was a prosecutor ran five years, but I read
three separate times. Okay, I ran on, we've got a
combat violent crime. We've got to go after repeat offenders.
Never ran on I'm going to get that guy.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
But you could run on I'm getting white collar coruption.
Alvin Bragg didn't say I'm going to get Trump. What
he said was, I'm the most qualified. This guy has
a record in New York decades long of corruption, and
it's I think it's Look, if you were Dick Tracy
and you wanted to be the thing, wouldn't you be like,
I'm gonna get Scarfazer whoever one of the Dick Tracy
guys like this was a guy pulling that. And the
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second point to that would be this in twenty sixteen,
what was one of the platforms that Donald Trump ran on,
let's get crooked Hillary.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Thank god he's not a prosecutor.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
I understand, but do you get my point?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
The point is this guy ran on, Hillary is crooked
and I'm gonna put her in jail. And then with Biden,
he said the Biden crime faily is crooked and I'm
going to put them in jail. And then a prosecutor
in New York said, I have evidence you've committed a felony,
so we're gonna put you on trial.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
And he's like, what, how dare you sir?
Speaker 1 (32:47):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 11 (32:51):
What is this?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What are we dealing with? I'm about to go to jail.
Are nice?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Respectfully? Please apples and oranges? Because you've got someone in
a political system, and how many people in America believe
what a politician says.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Sorry, hey, tickets are free. I will throw you out
of here. Respectfully. We're having a conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
This is not rome.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
A prosecutor walks into a courtroom and tells a lie,
and that prosecutor loses a law license and probably goes
to prison.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So the difference between Alvin Bragg's saying I am going
after that person and Donald Trump saying that person should
go to prison is two different forums.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Who has the more power?
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Who has more a candidate, no, the president and someone
running for president. This is kind of a crazy argument
you're making.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
No, no, no, no, let me finish. Bill Barr. Great
Attorney General Merrick Garland, Great Attorney General Merrick Garland appoints
a special counsel and then puts the report out that
says that Joe Biden should not be prosecuted because he's
a kind gentleman with a bad memory, something to that effect.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
That's not what he said, but okay, well it's close.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
What he said was he would present to the jury
as a kindle general, which means I don't think we
can win this case because I think he's too sympathetic
a figure.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Okay, yeah, okay, very different.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I apologize. I'm not trying to slander objection.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It's just day no objection. What's the I don't know,
all right, so long a time to work.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
But the point being that if a candidate says I'm
going to get this person, then that's all Alvin Bragg
was at that time as a candidate. So why aren't
you holding Donald Trump, who's running for president to the
same standard that you would hold Alvin Bragg. And not
only that, when Donald Trump was president, he did impat
a special prosecutor to go after the Russian collusion hoax,
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that John Durham panel, and that was there to try
and get charges against Hillary Cullington. You can't be mad
at the Democrats for committing murder just because your team
only committed attempted murder like that just doesn't fly. They
were successful in their prosecution as opposed to those other
cases where you just tried to get her.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
So Donald Trump never had the authority to request a
search warrant, put handcuffs on somebody, prosecute somebody. That is
always done by an independent Department of Justice. On the
other hand, Alvin Bragg ran for office to get that
authority to do those very things. It's two separate.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Situations, not solely. And also those things come with a process.
He can't just go in there and go arrest that guy.
This isn't navalney. This is a grand jury was impaneled
of normal New Yorkers, not Alvin Brack, and he presented
his evidence and they came back and said, yeah, there's
a case here.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
So then they impaneled the jury, and then both sides
got to choose.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
You can indict a ham sandwich, that's what a grand
jury is, okay, But generally you wouldn't convict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Because at some point twelve New Yorkers would go, that's
a the hand.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Sandwich, and we will see what an appeals court does. Look,
you're putting me in an unenviable position of defending Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I've known in a long time.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I'm putting you in a position of defending the process
that he was put through. That process has standards, you
set it yourself. An appeals court is going to look
at this. There are many safeguards within our legal system,
and he's getting the benefit of almost all of them
in a way that poor New Yorkers will never get
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a sniff of.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Agree both.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
So he's getting dooier process than anybody has ever gotten.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
So I don't understand just because you.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Don't like the result. He didn't like the result of
the election. Our elections are a fraud and we're a
third world country. He doesn't like the result of a
criminal case. Our courts are a fraud. What would make
them better if they did what I wanted?
Speaker 6 (37:13):
That's not our system. No, that's a monarch.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I think what would make them better in his mind
if they didn't convict him. That's my point. Yeah, but
I don't think he wants justice in this country. I
don't think he's standing up and saying we need justice.
He said, I've been saying the election's stolen. So let's
see if we can elect election in Congress. I didn't
win in the courts, so let's let's go to Congress.
I wanted to certify those electors.
Speaker 8 (37:37):
By the way, you and I, you walked out here
and you said to me, this is just fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I promised I wouldn't do this.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
You said to me, I bet we don't agree on anything,
and yet sir, here.
Speaker 12 (37:52):
You are.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Agree daytime.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
If we could do this.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
So I just get repair.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I retract my previous comments.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
I will have a scenargrapher note those in the how
do we My point in the first segment was the
courts have been a really important stop gap. I think
our courts are there is a two tiered system, and
poor people without access get screwed. But I do think
it's played an important role in holding up certain things
in terms of corruption. I think the news media has
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forgotten that that can be part of their role. Is
that something that you think could bring a sense more
of an established reality and earned authority from the media
that could create some parameters that we can all sort
of agree on.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
Is that something that you think would be possible.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I appreciate the question. I'm no longer a defense attorney
now I could go to so I think we went
from Walter Cronkite and Dan rather to entertainment, and I
think the problem.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Are you looking at me? I had nothing to do
with this.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I think the problem right now is everybody gets their
news sources in silos and they just keep getting reinforced
with certain ideas. I went to a neighbor's house the
day after the twenty twenty election. Their flag was upside down.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
You was next to the alitos.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I knocked on the door and asked them your flags.
I thought they made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Oh gosh, but it was they were sending a message.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh it's a crazy mess. There were kids playing across
the street, the refrigerator gas in the tank, there was
what's the thought?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
It was a dystopian like the last of us kind
of it. Yeah, they were falling apart. I wonder too
if the algorithm you know has played a role. You know,
people can say like, oh, they're in their silos, but
I think also the algorithms of social media incentivize you
to more and more radical content. They want to keep
(40:12):
you engaged in the same way that the news media
needs kind of fear and urgency. I always say it's
built for nine eleven, but in the absence of nine
to eleven, they have to make you think like it's
nine to eleven. And I think the algorithm you know
plays a role in that as well, driving us into
those holes lacking perspective.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
I don't know what you do about that, but.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Well, one you create more competition. Facebook should have five
facebooks that they compete with, and hopefully there would be
a point where.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
What they do is they buy anything that even resembles
a budding Facebook and stick it in their Facebook drawer.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
That's the tough part.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Oh do you miss Congress in any way?
Speaker 8 (40:52):
Is there something about do you feel it was a
job left undone for you? Do you feel what are
your ultimate thoughts about about leaving the way you did
and and the unfulfilled potential of a government that is
completely disconnected from the needs of its people, allowing demagogues
(41:12):
like Donald Trump to rise.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Well, I left because I couldn't tell the lie twenty
Corenty election wasn't stone the January sixth defendants aren't political prisoners,
on and on and and so.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
That's him saying that, not me. I just want to
make that clear.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
If I ever decide to run for Congress as a Republican,
I just want to make sure that that's ken Buck
saying that, not me.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Continue.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So, not not telling the not agreeing to the party line.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Right, You're a victim of cancel culture.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Well I am, I'm one. I'm not a victim of
of anything. I am absolutely blessed beyond belief, with six
grandkids and plenty of six grandkids, six and a half
grandkids one on the way.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Oh god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
I immediately went to like salamonic wisdom of like, no,
you're not supposed to do that.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
No, but but you know, there's a lot of life
out there besides, and it's about nothing and telling lies.
And so I made a choice to go enjoy what
I've got to left.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
What will break this fever in Washington.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
One. America does great with a crisis. Nine to twelve,
America came together and we were a unified country. I
hope we don't get for like seven hours. I hope
we don't get to that crisis point. But I think
that there is a leader out there that will unify
and help unify America. And it's somebody who I believe
(42:59):
that great more, somebody who has great leadership skills, a
John F. Kennedy. You know, I probably wouldn't have said
this twenty years ago that he was a great hero,
but you look at what John F. Kennedy did in
terms of bringing the country together during the Cold War
and moving us forward. Uh, there is somebody there that
will help America heal and move forward.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
You wouldn't happen to have a name, would you.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
I know it's not ke Buck, and I know it's
not one of the two. And Nate's leading the country
in the in the polls right now.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Right Well, I very much appreciate you coming back and
having the discussion with this to come back and says
again much appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Whish of that former coins gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
We're gonna take it back to do that back. That
was a.
Speaker 9 (43:57):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Everybody's gotta goshout for tonight.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
Before we go, we're gonna check in with your host
for the rest of this week, mister Ronnie.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Chang, Rodney Chang, tell the people, what do you got
lined up for this week?
Speaker 9 (44:12):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (44:12):
John, I'll be looking at international stories because I figure
at least one of the thirty seven hosts of the
show should be thinking about places besides America, Speaking of
which made new presidente of Maco Mazeltov.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
The chump.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Masel Talv Why why are you masl talving me? Oh?
Speaker 13 (44:41):
Because you know she's you know, she's got the you
know the it's the it's the hell bray, the Chosen's Jewish.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Whoa whoa? You said it on me?
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Okay, that's not a slurry. You could say Jewish.
Speaker 13 (44:58):
Know it's a hot ish, Okay, Joe. I'm just saying, Hey,
if an Asian dude one president of Mexico, I'd be hyped.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay.
Speaker 13 (45:10):
I throw a big party for my staff and maybe
give everyone sitting next to me one hundred bucks.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
I'll give you one hundred bucks. Stay tuned Ronnie Jang
this week and check out.
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