January 23, 2025 • 31 mins
Ronny Chieng covers Trump’s face-off with a woke pastor, his lukewarm review of church, and a "f**k-it" approach to the Jan. 6 pardons. Troy Iwata investigates if the GOP’s amnesia for insurrectionist violence is really a disease. Plus, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog leads anti-Trump march in storming the... coffee shop?
Legendary hip-hop artist Talib Kweli sits down with Ronny Chieng to discuss the future of the music industry and his latest album "The Confidence of Knowing." They talk supporting artists outside of streaming, how hip-hop is deeply rooted in social justice, understanding the political divide beyond Democrat vs. Republican, and how tech billionaires profit off our social media engagement.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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source for news. This is the Daily Trump with your
home's Roddy Day.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, welcome to Daily Shaw. I'm Rodny Shack. We got
so much to talk about tonight. The Proud Boys are
back in town, Donald Trump faces off against Jesus, and
we sent Triumph to sniff the buttholes of the resistance.
So let's get into another edition of the Second Coming
of Donald J. Trump. I've been a comedy. It's only
(01:04):
day two of Trump's presidency and already everyone is mad
at him. I mean, gods, can you give him a minute,
lends sit down. It started in the morning when Trump
went to the traditional post inauguration church service, which is
not exactly his preferred way to start the day. It's
never fun for him to be a guest at someone
else's rally, and to make matters worse, the preacher was
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kind of preachy.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Mister President.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I ask you.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
To have mercy upon the people in our country. We're
scared now gay, lesbian and transgender children, and the people
the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings,
who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash
the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the
(01:55):
night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens or
have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants
are not criminals.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
New Executive Order, we are banning church a bishop, please
all right. We don't go to church to hear a
lecture about having mercy on the last fortunate. That's not
what church is for. And Trump was like, I only
came here because I heard they were free crackers, and
(02:30):
now I'm getting roastered by tign Otaro. He was it
was probably looking up at Jesus on the cross and thinking, hey,
you and me both brother to be fair. I mean,
can you imagine going to church and the pastor is
only addressing you like this next sermon is about the sinners,
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the cheaters, the degenerate gamblers. Gary. The point is, no
one has ever had a word time in church than
Trump did. And yes, I've seen spotlight and you could
tell that he had a bad time because of the
way he came out of the church. Super bitchy. Mister President.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
What did you think of the sermon?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
What did you think, Do you like it?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Did you find it exciting?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah? It does that excite you? Did you like that
watching your president get lectured to by Bishop Rachel Meadow?
Get your little liberal god? You sick? And is this
how we do presidential press conferences? Now? This is like
TMZ at the departures haul the lax. It's like, hey,
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mister president, all right, but the president, what do you
think about black Lively and justin Beldona? But after getting
yelled at by this church Cara and Trump was also
getting yelled at by everyone just because he released hundreds
of violent insurrectioners back into the streets or something. And yeah, okay,
he beat some cops and broke some windows, but they
(04:02):
were doing it for him. No one seems to understand that,
and the media won't shut up with these unfair gotcha questions.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
You would agree that it's never acceptable to assault a
police officer, So then if I can't among those, you
pardon DJ Rodriguez. He drove a stun gun into the
neck of a DC police officer who was abducted by
the mob that day. He later confessed on video to
the FBI and pleaded guilty for his crimes. Why does
he deserve a pardon.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Is it important because we're looking at commute, so we're
looking at partons.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, well we'll take a look at everything.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
We'll take a look at everything. Shouldn't you look at
it before you issue the pardon?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Step one, release the prisoners. Step two, look into which
prisoners we should release. Him nailed it. So part one
of his answer about this whole gen sixth thing is
we'll take a look, which is Trump speak for we
won't never look at this again. But if that doesn't
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satisfy you, he has another reason.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Okay, well we'll take a look at everything. But I
can say this, murderers today are not even charged. You
have murderers that aren't charged all over you. Take a
look at what's gone on in Philadelphia, take a look
at what's gone off in LA where people murder people
and they don't get charged.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Say, some murderers aren't in jail, therefore nobody should be
in jail. Okay, Also think big picture here. If he
lets these violent criminals go, there's a chance they'll kill
the other violent criminals and then they'll just cancel each
other out. And to be fair to Trump, he has
been campaigning on releasing the jan six prisoners for years now.
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Everyone just assumed he didn't mean the violent ones, which
would mean going through all the cases one by one.
But that's not really Trump's style.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
You're reporting from Axios this morning details the private back
and forth amongst in a Trump's team over how many
January sixth rioters to pardon.
Speaker 9 (06:04):
The case by case review was onerous. Trump staffers wondered
whom to pardon and who might slip through the cracks.
Time was running out heading into inauguration day. As Trump's
team wrestled with the issue, Trump just said it release
them all.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I have never related to Trump more. All right, this
pdf is four hundred pages. Okay, all crime is legal.
And look, you can't expect someone to go through all
these cases one by one. I mean the FBI did,
and the prosecutors did, and the judges did, and the
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juries and the paralegals and the person who types on
that weird typewriter no one else knows how to use.
But Trump is busy. Okay, it's much easier to just
click select all delete. So in the very first seven
hours of the Trump administration, we already have our first
big controversy, which of course leads to the class ritual
of a Trump presidency. He does something crazy, then Republicans
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get asked about it and they're like, what, I didn't
see it.
Speaker 10 (07:08):
Do you agree with President Trump's decision to pardon these
violent people if.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They were truly violent?
Speaker 6 (07:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
But but do I know that they were? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That is January's sixth pardons. Well, I've said what I
said before.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
And that is we're not looking backwards.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I haven't seen the details, but I think a lot
of those parents were definitely well served.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
What about those who assaulted police officers and then we're
pardoned by the president?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I haven't gone to the detail.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
We're talking about people that were beating officers with fire hydrants,
with metal batonons.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is that acceptable to you? Those people able? What do
you mean?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I understand?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
No, No, no spoilers Tommy and Tuboville didn't watch jan
six yet. Okay, he'll he'll get to it, but there's
just so much to watch these days. You know, he's
still got nine to eleven. And then Gadzi on his
dv A, I mean, you you are a senator on
jan six Like, what do you mean you didn't see
the insurrection you lived in? This is like a Titanic
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survivor saying I haven't seen the movie, don't tell me
what happens. So to sum up day one of Trump's presidency,
church is bad, beating cops is good. So I guess
he's a Democrat. Now for more on the Republican reaction,
we turn to Troy You on, everybody try try. All
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these Republicans are pretending they haven't seen footage of January sixth.
I mean, shouldn't they be embarrassed? Ronnie?
Speaker 8 (08:44):
I know, sad and ignorant people like yourself would think
Republicans are being cowardly, but they actually have medical conditions
that literally make it impossible for them to see the
January sixth footage. And unlike you, I'm not an ablest fan.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
What do you mean ablest due? Ron Johnson's just said
he didn't see the details.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
He can't see the details, Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Ron Johnson has a rare disease, you know, face blindness.
He has that, but specifically for insurrections. When he sees
a cop getting beaten with a flagpole, his brain interprets
that as a rainbow or a baby deer learning to walk.
It might seem cute, but it's actually incredibly painful.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Okay, I've never heard of that, But what about the
rest of them? The Senator Tublville also have this face blindness.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Okay, watch your tone. Okay, And no, Tommy Tupperville actually
has that disease from Memento.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Do you remember that movie?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
He doesn't, but he forgets about January sixth every three minutes.
He's a survivor and it's inspiring.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh okay, So he's not just dumb.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Well, if he didn't have Memento disease, then yeah, he
would absolutely be the dumbest senator in history.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But he does have it, so he is.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
I'm I'm doing a walk for the cure next week.
What are you doing to give back?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Ronnie? I have a metal straw to read that I'll
remember to use someday. I got Troy. Come on, they can't.
They can't all have medical issues with seeing jan six footage, but.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
They do, Okay. Lauren Bobert was hypnotized at a child's
birthday party and just never fully recovered. Rick Scott he
couldn't see the footage because he's actually half horse, so
he always has those those blinders on. And Tim Burchett
couldn't see it because he got kicked in the head
by Rick Scott because he walked behind him too quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And it scooped him.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
And oh oh oh, and John Thunes's eyes don't work
because he once saw a pretty lady walk by and
they went and they just they never went back into
his head. Yeah, do you think that's funny?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Ronnie? I guess I guess I need to be more
sensitive to Republicans going forward.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Yeah, you should, because there's a lot of things coming
down the pipeline the next four years that they're not
going to be able to see or hear or remember
or legislate against or understand or consider.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, I got Okay, yeah gotta yeah,
I got. I guess I guess I should be also
more respectful of people who can't watch jen six footage
the way you and I have.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Oh I haven't seen the January sixth footage.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, do you also have one of those diseases?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
No?
Speaker 8 (11:30):
No, it just sounded so depressing. I don't need that
my life.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay, Okay, try what everybody, I will want to come back.
We're checking on Time's opposition, so don't go away. You
can't see it. Welcome back to Adah. We show the
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Time's inauguration wasn't the old. Even in DC this week
there was also the People's March to oppose him. We
set a most dogged reporter to check it out here
in Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
At the People's March, we're here with everyone in America
who thinks Joe Scarborough and Nika Prazinski still have good
on screen chemistry. This diverse crowd covers a full spectrum
of literally every stage of depression the morning.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Look at you guys.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
You guys are mobilized.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah you're energized.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah you're three months too Lateik THIKEI if you could
just say your name and all your genders from the camera, please.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh wow, I'll count.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Let's face it, no one here's gonna smash any windows
at the Capitol that would require upper body strength. You know,
eight years ago, in fairness, there were like millions of
people here. Do you think the numbers of women participating
in this march have dropped off because they don't see
themselves represented by the demo crats, or because you kept
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talking to them about Deadpool. Seriously, looking around here, I've
never seen so many people worried about losing the right
to contraceptives for purely hypothetical reasons. Tell me what stage
of depression are you currently in? Anger, bargaining are all
the way to wearing that hat in public? So many
(13:22):
groups factions represented here. This person is with people for
the legalization of medicinal bath salts.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Correct deport Trump slash drump Trump. If you don't know,
I guess the Trump. I'm the original name in Germany.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Okay, it's nice to know the bath salts have kicked in.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Honestly, some people are saying that you're all ineffective, You're
too weak and unequipped for a crisis. I'm talking to
your deodorance right now.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Actually, short, if.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You want to win next time, we have to be
the bigger tenth. Sometimes it's just with language, okay. So
if we want to get Republicans, what the best if
we rebrand climate change as climate transitioning, Okay, then Republicans
will want to stop it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I can feel Ben Shapiro hedging already. So you're a
young person. I feel like the young people need to
understand what's going on better. What's your message to young
people who only get their news from social media?
Speaker 8 (14:28):
It's important to organize, Join an organization.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Already too complicated. Sorry, people are going to take you seriously.
Wearing clussy hats from twenty sixteen. We gotta armor up,
show them. We don't want to be screwed with right now.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Okay, what do you got? Okay, sign for the pube hat.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Put that on.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh boy, this is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Are the pups organic? Of course they're organic, and they're
farm raised, the raised farm raised.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yes, we run a no kill pupe.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
Far are there genetically modified organisms in the.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Now?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
See?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
This is for the more discerning. That's the landing strip
you have.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Seriously, you guys, this marching stuff, it's so analog.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
This isn't what the Republicans do. You know, where's your
Pepe the Frog?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Where's your cat turn?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We need our own Pepe?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
So I call this one Keith Obermonkey. This is another
potential mascot, Smuggy the NTR total perfect. People don't believe
facts anymore, they believe conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So we need to make up our own conspiracy theories. Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
For example, Jimmy Carter was doing just fine until Trump
got elected again coincidence?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Who killed Carter?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know how Trump hides his medical records? Yes, he
also hides his DNA test. That's right. He recently took
a DNA test that reveals that he's forty percent sour creete,
release the DNA test.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Release the DNA test.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Truck is ruining people's lives.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Truck was running people's lives.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He goes well with onions and chibes. She goes onions
and tibes.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Goop. Stop the lie, you ob stop the lines. How
did Jimmy Carter die? How did Jimmy Carter die?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Young man?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Are you a member of gen Z?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Did you mean to come to this march? Or were
you staring at your phone on the way to work
and when.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You finally looked up you were here?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I came on purpose.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I kid, I kid, I know you don't actually work.
Are you guys ready to storm a building?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I did.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Let's be honest, you guys aren't ready to storm the Capitol.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, you believe me?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
If we're gonna start small.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Okay, trust me. We need to do something you know
that's gonna get attention. We're gonna start small for the mark.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Are you with me?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Okay, everybody's storm with me.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Come on, I've got a storm.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Storm now, let's storm. Let's go. Let's storm. We're starting.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Hey, get back, Hey, get back, take get back, take
it back, take it back?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Whose house house? Who's house? Far house house house? Who's house?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Oh yeah, we're taking back on muffins.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Home a.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yea dasy coffee house tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Jeez, can't suck up. Thanks you tryumph. When we come
back to Live Quilly, we'll be joining you on the shows.
We don't go away. Welcome back to have me show.
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My guest tonight is a legendary hip hop artist whose
Lea's album is a collaboration with Jay Rawls called The
Confidence of Knowing. Please welcome the one and only Brooklyn's
own Callip Qually. We're playing on how you feeling? Yeah,
(19:13):
man of the people, man, a lot of the people.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's my city, Yeah, my city, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, thanks for coming on the show man. You just
came out from Australia.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I did.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I was with the Roots shoutout to legendary roots crew.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, no, that makes this. I saw a video of
quest Love DJing in a pub in Australia. I'm sorry,
what's he doing there? And you guys are on tour
doing music.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
We were.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Those guys are amazing and I'm happy to share the
road with them.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, I used to live in I lived in Australia
for like ten years. How was it for you?
Speaker 11 (19:42):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Being an American traveling abroad is very interesting. Yeah, how
people have a lot of questions, A lot of questions,
a lot of questions. Thank you for coming to my
show a city winery. Yeah, appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
No, I love what. I'm a huge I love real.
I'm I'm like playing it cool right now. But I'm
like a huge fan of yours and I've been by
following your Musicum no, No, that's very yeah, I don't.
That's very kind. I feel so embarrassed that you've ben
said that from people. But one thing I loved, like,
I you know, I listened to albums and you you know,
(20:18):
I think you've been You've been in this game for
like thirty years now.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I feel like current.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
If I'm wrong, I feel like most of it you've
been kind of like almost pushing it indie style.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, most of me, most of it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I feel like your last few albums not this one.
The latest one, Confidence of Knowing is available on Apple
and Spotify, but your last two including Black Style two. Yes,
your album before that, your your solo album before that,
Like you released it on like, one was on Patreon,
one was on Luminary. I was like, as a fan
(20:48):
of yours, I knew you released it, but I would
have to like go and like digitally chase. It wasn't
like I could just press a button and listen to it.
And it reminded me of back in the day actually
having to chase music. And I mean quite frankly, it
made me like appreciative and more when I did find it,
because it made it like kind of difficult to get
in a way, like is that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It makes it special? Well, I know everybody here is
a fan of Joe Rogan and uh and I think
Joe Rogan is paid millions of dollars by Spotify for
people to listen to his podcast. But as an artist,
a musician on Spotify, I get a percentage of a
penny they don't pay any artists that are far any
music artists and advance like that. So I mean, I
(21:30):
think this, what's your problem, disparity, you know what I'm saying, disparity. So,
I mean streaming is very convenient for the fans. It's
not the fans' fault. But if you really want to
support music, you should go to band camp. You should
go to fans website. You can come to my band camp,
you come black Star band camp, you come to qualityclub
dot com, which is a store where I sell my
(21:50):
merch and and.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Albums and anything but streaming basically.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right right right, I mean, look, go listen on streaming,
but then go act support the artists, and.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, it's a it's a mix, right mix. Some
of it is that people the music on streaming is
so convenient and so they use that. And the other
part is people don't know you, no, no, no, They
think that listening on Spotify, Apple Music is like helping you.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know, right, well, everything is dictated by the algorithm
right now, and whether it's what you listen to, what
you eat, what you watch on television, even your politics.
So this idea that online interaction is not real. I
feel like that's kind of what's helping our current political climate.
A lot of people slept on the fact that particularly
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the right wing was pushing online and they were saying,
you know, don't engage, just just ignore that. It's not real.
And it turns out that these billionaires are using their
platforms to invest and help push policy and politics, and
so it's affecting everything. We're turning into like Ready Player
one right now.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So you're saying, your antidote to that is to stop
get off the streaming.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So this is not at all I mean, I mean,
right now, as you can see, I'm on Blue Sky
right now. You know what I'm saying, because as far
as I can tell, Blue Sky is the only one
that is not bending the need of Trump, you know
what I'm saying. But I mean, you know, so there
have been great communities built on TikTok, on meta, on Facebook,
(23:27):
on Instagram, even on x There there have been great
communities that have helped people. But at a at a
certain point, you gotta really sort of vote with your dollars,
to vote with your time and energy and all our
engagement that we voluntarily give to these people we're just
seeing as numbers to them, and we don't even own
this content, so you have to really think about where
you want to put your time and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Energy right as a consumer, as a fan, as a
fan of yeah person. So like, I mean, you've you've
been in this game for like thirty years now.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, And I think it's important to note that I'm
an artist that doesn't have a platinum record, but I'm
still on a day showed thirty years later, and I
feel like that, you know, thank you. I hope that
it can aspire people feel overwhelmed by like not getting
the props they deserve as artists.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Okay to yeah, come on the Daily Show.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But you don't have to be mainstream to be successful.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, well yeah, no, for I mean, you're the I
think the d that there's art that you produce and
then there's commercial stuff, and that both they both have
that benefits. Yes, you know, I think why what really
made me a fan of you was that you kind
of I think you and most death for the first
guys to kind of show me hip hop as an
art form and not just a consumable thing to dance
(24:38):
at at.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah yeah nightclub, which shout out to most has happened
with alchemists.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, no, don't shout him out.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
This is this is you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
That's my part.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But I guess, I guess because you've been here for
thirty years now and you've seen what it was like
three years ago. You've seen what it's like now. So
what do you think the future of the music industry
is going?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Is I mean? Because it doesn't sound good from what you're.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I mean, yeah, I think. I think that when it
comes to hip hop, too many people think of hip
hop as what the corporations are pushing on them, And
the hip hop community is way bigger than what you
be on the radio, what you see on videos. Hip
hop community is very vast. Matter of fact, I'm gonna
defend the hip hop community more than any genre. I
feel like hip hop has more social justice workers, more activists,
(25:22):
more people to speak up than any genre, hands down.
So even though we're pushed this sort of corporate, greedy, capitalistic, sexist,
violent image of hip hop, when you look at the
hip hop community as a whole, the this is where
the artist are becoming activist at right.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And But like what I guess, I was asking, like,
what is the way you think if you're a musician
right now and you're just getting started. Ye you know,
like what is the what is the your what would
you recommend to them?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
You know, like I would recommend that you stay far
away from the music industry right and build build industry
around yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like make yourself
a commodity. Make yourself not a commodity, but make yourself,
make it about yourself, and and bring a traffic to
what you're doing as opposed to sending traffic outside of yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Okay, okay, right, well let's go yeah, yeah, Well, you
know you've you've been in the game a long time.
You're also such a prominent activist for your community politically,
Like is I hate to ask you?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I hate to ask you, like I'm here for the question,
I know, but like you called me doctor Fumar Johnson
one of the smoke.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I hate to ask you, like as a black man,
but as a black man, can you explain like where
this appeal for Trump is coming from or where it's going?
You think?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, speaking on behalf of the entire black community.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Because I'll speak for you, speak.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
For I am king of the blacks, obviously, I think
that the way that people feel this despair, they feel
to feel like the system is against them and they
can't trust our leaders and they can't trust the politicians.
Welcome to how it feels to be black the whole time.
We even feel like that the whole time is so
(27:19):
this is not this kind of sucks. It does suck.
And this is why people, you know, they what they say,
They say they want the rhythm but not the blues.
You know what I'm saying. I will say this right now.
I see you push you know, people out there like
free Luigi. You know what I'm saying, Like I see
this push for people to be like eat the rich
and be anti oligarch in this push to explain class
(27:44):
divisions in class warfare and how these billionaire class they
don't care about race, racist, social contract. Of course it's
not even real, but this idea that we have to
focus on class above everything, and I want to make
sure that we don't erase the marginalized people of color
who started this fight for us and often get a
race at this time because the top ninety percent, over
(28:06):
the top ninety percent is straight white male on purpose.
So in America, because America started the idea of you know,
with the Atlantic slave trade, the construct of whiteness being
above all. This kind of started with the birth of
America because it's baked into America. You can't separate race
in class. Years ago, James Carville said it's the economy stupid,
(28:28):
But now it's the racism stupid. You know what I'm saying, Like,
you can't separate everything that they do when it comes
to immigration, when it comes to federal workers, when it
comes to the economy. It's based on white nationalists ideas.
This is why Eli Musk is doing Nazi salutes and
no one, no one cares, you know what I'm saying,
or they even try to defend you.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I wouldn't say no one cans.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But yeah, this is the radical left leg Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, we all own yeah trivia.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But like well, and I want to add to that,
it's not they're fooling us by making a stink. It's
about democrat versus Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I've never
been a Democrat. I voted Democrat before, I've never voted republican,
but I've never identified as a Democrat. This is not
about Democrat versus Republican. This is about good versus bad
This is about colonizers versus the colonize. This is about
(29:18):
the oligarchs versus the poor and working class people. It's
not about Democrat and Republican in this country. They change
philosophies anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Sure sure, sure, well you know, thank you. I just
want to say, yeah, thank you for coming on the show.
Thank you for your an, thank you for making a
love ol place. Thank you for your music. Thank you
your music gob me through some bad days. And also
it's a soundtrack for some of my better days. Thanks
so much for making it, and I can keep making music. Thanks,
(29:47):
thank you. The confidence of knowing is about now for
live quality. Everybody. Well we oh, we're gonna take a
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Speaker 1 (30:24):
Just do a yes or no question.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
Do you agree with President Trump's decision to pardon these
violent people and releasing them from jail?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
If they were truly violent. No, But do I know
that they were? I don't know that. What do you
mean you don't know that.
Speaker 10 (30:40):
We're showing the footage on the air right now. Congressmen,
you were there that day.
Speaker 11 (30:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
The most trusted journalists at Comedy Central is America's only
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home's Roddy Day.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey, welcome to Daily Shaw. I'm Rodny Shack. We got
so much to talk about tonight. The Proud Boys are
back in town, Donald Trump faces off against Jesus, and
we sent Triumph to sniff the buttholes of the resistance.
So let's get into another edition of the Second Coming
of Donald J. Trump. I've been a comedy. It's only
(01:04):
day two of Trump's presidency and already everyone is mad
at him. I mean, gods, can you give him a minute,
lends sit down. It started in the morning when Trump
went to the traditional post inauguration church service, which is
not exactly his preferred way to start the day. It's
never fun for him to be a guest at someone
else's rally, and to make matters worse, the preacher was
(01:28):
kind of preachy.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Mister President.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I ask you.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
To have mercy upon the people in our country. We're
scared now gay, lesbian and transgender children, and the people
the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings,
who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash
the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the
(01:55):
night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens or
have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants
are not criminals.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
New Executive Order, we are banning church a bishop, please
all right. We don't go to church to hear a
lecture about having mercy on the last fortunate. That's not
what church is for. And Trump was like, I only
came here because I heard they were free crackers, and
(02:30):
now I'm getting roastered by tign Otaro. He was it
was probably looking up at Jesus on the cross and thinking, hey,
you and me both brother to be fair. I mean,
can you imagine going to church and the pastor is
only addressing you like this next sermon is about the sinners,
(02:51):
the cheaters, the degenerate gamblers. Gary. The point is, no
one has ever had a word time in church than
Trump did. And yes, I've seen spotlight and you could
tell that he had a bad time because of the
way he came out of the church. Super bitchy. Mister President.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
What did you think of the sermon?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
What did you think, Do you like it?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Did you find it exciting?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah? It does that excite you? Did you like that
watching your president get lectured to by Bishop Rachel Meadow?
Get your little liberal god? You sick? And is this
how we do presidential press conferences? Now? This is like
TMZ at the departures haul the lax. It's like, hey,
(03:40):
mister president, all right, but the president, what do you
think about black Lively and justin Beldona? But after getting
yelled at by this church Cara and Trump was also
getting yelled at by everyone just because he released hundreds
of violent insurrectioners back into the streets or something. And yeah, okay,
he beat some cops and broke some windows, but they
(04:02):
were doing it for him. No one seems to understand that,
and the media won't shut up with these unfair gotcha questions.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
You would agree that it's never acceptable to assault a
police officer, So then if I can't among those, you
pardon DJ Rodriguez. He drove a stun gun into the
neck of a DC police officer who was abducted by
the mob that day. He later confessed on video to
the FBI and pleaded guilty for his crimes. Why does
he deserve a pardon.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Is it important because we're looking at commute, so we're
looking at partons.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, well we'll take a look at everything.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
We'll take a look at everything. Shouldn't you look at
it before you issue the pardon?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Step one, release the prisoners. Step two, look into which
prisoners we should release. Him nailed it. So part one
of his answer about this whole gen sixth thing is
we'll take a look, which is Trump speak for we
won't never look at this again. But if that doesn't
(05:04):
satisfy you, he has another reason.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Okay, well we'll take a look at everything. But I
can say this, murderers today are not even charged. You
have murderers that aren't charged all over you. Take a
look at what's gone on in Philadelphia, take a look
at what's gone off in LA where people murder people
and they don't get charged.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Say, some murderers aren't in jail, therefore nobody should be
in jail. Okay, Also think big picture here. If he
lets these violent criminals go, there's a chance they'll kill
the other violent criminals and then they'll just cancel each
other out. And to be fair to Trump, he has
been campaigning on releasing the jan six prisoners for years now.
(05:47):
Everyone just assumed he didn't mean the violent ones, which
would mean going through all the cases one by one.
But that's not really Trump's style.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
You're reporting from Axios this morning details the private back
and forth amongst in a Trump's team over how many
January sixth rioters to pardon.
Speaker 9 (06:04):
The case by case review was onerous. Trump staffers wondered
whom to pardon and who might slip through the cracks.
Time was running out heading into inauguration day. As Trump's
team wrestled with the issue, Trump just said it release
them all.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I have never related to Trump more. All right, this
pdf is four hundred pages. Okay, all crime is legal.
And look, you can't expect someone to go through all
these cases one by one. I mean the FBI did,
and the prosecutors did, and the judges did, and the
(06:42):
juries and the paralegals and the person who types on
that weird typewriter no one else knows how to use.
But Trump is busy. Okay, it's much easier to just
click select all delete. So in the very first seven
hours of the Trump administration, we already have our first
big controversy, which of course leads to the class ritual
of a Trump presidency. He does something crazy, then Republicans
(07:03):
get asked about it and they're like, what, I didn't
see it.
Speaker 10 (07:08):
Do you agree with President Trump's decision to pardon these
violent people if.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They were truly violent?
Speaker 6 (07:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
But but do I know that they were? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That is January's sixth pardons. Well, I've said what I
said before.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
And that is we're not looking backwards.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I haven't seen the details, but I think a lot
of those parents were definitely well served.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
What about those who assaulted police officers and then we're
pardoned by the president?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I haven't gone to the detail.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
We're talking about people that were beating officers with fire hydrants,
with metal batonons.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is that acceptable to you? Those people able? What do
you mean?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I understand?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
No, No, no spoilers Tommy and Tuboville didn't watch jan
six yet. Okay, he'll he'll get to it, but there's
just so much to watch these days. You know, he's
still got nine to eleven. And then Gadzi on his
dv A, I mean, you you are a senator on
jan six Like, what do you mean you didn't see
the insurrection you lived in? This is like a Titanic
(08:10):
survivor saying I haven't seen the movie, don't tell me
what happens. So to sum up day one of Trump's presidency,
church is bad, beating cops is good. So I guess
he's a Democrat. Now for more on the Republican reaction,
we turn to Troy You on, everybody try try. All
(08:38):
these Republicans are pretending they haven't seen footage of January sixth.
I mean, shouldn't they be embarrassed? Ronnie?
Speaker 8 (08:44):
I know, sad and ignorant people like yourself would think
Republicans are being cowardly, but they actually have medical conditions
that literally make it impossible for them to see the
January sixth footage. And unlike you, I'm not an ablest fan.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
What do you mean ablest due? Ron Johnson's just said
he didn't see the details.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
He can't see the details, Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Ron Johnson has a rare disease, you know, face blindness.
He has that, but specifically for insurrections. When he sees
a cop getting beaten with a flagpole, his brain interprets
that as a rainbow or a baby deer learning to walk.
It might seem cute, but it's actually incredibly painful.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Okay, I've never heard of that, But what about the
rest of them? The Senator Tublville also have this face blindness.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Okay, watch your tone. Okay, And no, Tommy Tupperville actually
has that disease from Memento.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Do you remember that movie?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
He doesn't, but he forgets about January sixth every three minutes.
He's a survivor and it's inspiring.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh okay, So he's not just dumb.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Well, if he didn't have Memento disease, then yeah, he
would absolutely be the dumbest senator in history.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But he does have it, so he is.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
I'm I'm doing a walk for the cure next week.
What are you doing to give back?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Ronnie? I have a metal straw to read that I'll
remember to use someday. I got Troy. Come on, they can't.
They can't all have medical issues with seeing jan six footage, but.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
They do, Okay. Lauren Bobert was hypnotized at a child's
birthday party and just never fully recovered. Rick Scott he
couldn't see the footage because he's actually half horse, so
he always has those those blinders on. And Tim Burchett
couldn't see it because he got kicked in the head
by Rick Scott because he walked behind him too quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And it scooped him.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
And oh oh oh, and John Thunes's eyes don't work
because he once saw a pretty lady walk by and
they went and they just they never went back into
his head. Yeah, do you think that's funny?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Ronnie? I guess I guess I need to be more
sensitive to Republicans going forward.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
Yeah, you should, because there's a lot of things coming
down the pipeline the next four years that they're not
going to be able to see or hear or remember
or legislate against or understand or consider.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, I got Okay, yeah gotta yeah,
I got. I guess I guess I should be also
more respectful of people who can't watch jen six footage
the way you and I have.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Oh I haven't seen the January sixth footage.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, do you also have one of those diseases?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
No?
Speaker 8 (11:30):
No, it just sounded so depressing. I don't need that
my life.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay, Okay, try what everybody, I will want to come back.
We're checking on Time's opposition, so don't go away. You
can't see it. Welcome back to Adah. We show the
(11:58):
Time's inauguration wasn't the old. Even in DC this week
there was also the People's March to oppose him. We
set a most dogged reporter to check it out here
in Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
At the People's March, we're here with everyone in America
who thinks Joe Scarborough and Nika Prazinski still have good
on screen chemistry. This diverse crowd covers a full spectrum
of literally every stage of depression the morning.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Look at you guys.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
You guys are mobilized.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah you're energized.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah you're three months too Lateik THIKEI if you could
just say your name and all your genders from the camera, please.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Oh wow, I'll count.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Let's face it, no one here's gonna smash any windows
at the Capitol that would require upper body strength. You know,
eight years ago, in fairness, there were like millions of
people here. Do you think the numbers of women participating
in this march have dropped off because they don't see
themselves represented by the demo crats, or because you kept
(13:01):
talking to them about Deadpool. Seriously, looking around here, I've
never seen so many people worried about losing the right
to contraceptives for purely hypothetical reasons. Tell me what stage
of depression are you currently in? Anger, bargaining are all
the way to wearing that hat in public? So many
(13:22):
groups factions represented here. This person is with people for
the legalization of medicinal bath salts.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Correct deport Trump slash drump Trump. If you don't know,
I guess the Trump. I'm the original name in Germany.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Okay, it's nice to know the bath salts have kicked in.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Honestly, some people are saying that you're all ineffective, You're
too weak and unequipped for a crisis. I'm talking to
your deodorance right now.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Actually, short, if.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You want to win next time, we have to be
the bigger tenth. Sometimes it's just with language, okay. So
if we want to get Republicans, what the best if
we rebrand climate change as climate transitioning, Okay, then Republicans
will want to stop it.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
I can feel Ben Shapiro hedging already. So you're a
young person. I feel like the young people need to
understand what's going on better. What's your message to young
people who only get their news from social media?
Speaker 8 (14:28):
It's important to organize, Join an organization.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Already too complicated. Sorry, people are going to take you seriously.
Wearing clussy hats from twenty sixteen. We gotta armor up,
show them. We don't want to be screwed with right now.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Okay, what do you got? Okay, sign for the pube hat.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Put that on.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh boy, this is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Are the pups organic? Of course they're organic, and they're
farm raised, the raised farm raised.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yes, we run a no kill pupe.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
Far are there genetically modified organisms in the.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Now?
Speaker 8 (15:04):
See?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
This is for the more discerning. That's the landing strip
you have.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Seriously, you guys, this marching stuff, it's so analog.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
This isn't what the Republicans do. You know, where's your
Pepe the Frog?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Where's your cat turn?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We need our own Pepe?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
So I call this one Keith Obermonkey. This is another
potential mascot, Smuggy the NTR total perfect. People don't believe
facts anymore, they believe conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So we need to make up our own conspiracy theories. Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
For example, Jimmy Carter was doing just fine until Trump
got elected again coincidence?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Who killed Carter?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
You know how Trump hides his medical records? Yes, he
also hides his DNA test. That's right. He recently took
a DNA test that reveals that he's forty percent sour creete,
release the DNA test.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Release the DNA test.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Truck is ruining people's lives.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Truck was running people's lives.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
He goes well with onions and chibes. She goes onions
and tibes.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Goop. Stop the lie, you ob stop the lines. How
did Jimmy Carter die? How did Jimmy Carter die?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Young man?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Are you a member of gen Z?
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Did you mean to come to this march? Or were
you staring at your phone on the way to work
and when.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You finally looked up you were here?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I came on purpose.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I kid, I kid, I know you don't actually work.
Are you guys ready to storm a building?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I did.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Let's be honest, you guys aren't ready to storm the Capitol.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, you believe me?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
If we're gonna start small.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Okay, trust me. We need to do something you know
that's gonna get attention. We're gonna start small for the mark.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Are you with me?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Okay, everybody's storm with me.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Come on, I've got a storm.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Storm now, let's storm. Let's go. Let's storm. We're starting.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Hey, get back, Hey, get back, take get back, take
it back, take it back?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Whose house house? Who's house? Far house house house? Who's house?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Oh yeah, we're taking back on muffins.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Home a.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yea dasy coffee house tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Jeez, can't suck up. Thanks you tryumph. When we come
back to Live Quilly, we'll be joining you on the shows.
We don't go away. Welcome back to have me show.
(18:42):
My guest tonight is a legendary hip hop artist whose
Lea's album is a collaboration with Jay Rawls called The
Confidence of Knowing. Please welcome the one and only Brooklyn's
own Callip Qually. We're playing on how you feeling? Yeah,
(19:13):
man of the people, man, a lot of the people.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
It's my city, Yeah, my city, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, thanks for coming on the show man. You just
came out from Australia.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I did.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I was with the Roots shoutout to legendary roots crew.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, no, that makes this. I saw a video of
quest Love DJing in a pub in Australia. I'm sorry,
what's he doing there? And you guys are on tour
doing music.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
We were.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Those guys are amazing and I'm happy to share the
road with them.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, I used to live in I lived in Australia
for like ten years. How was it for you?
Speaker 11 (19:42):
It was good?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Being an American traveling abroad is very interesting. Yeah, how
people have a lot of questions, A lot of questions,
a lot of questions. Thank you for coming to my
show a city winery. Yeah, appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
No, I love what. I'm a huge I love real.
I'm I'm like playing it cool right now. But I'm
like a huge fan of yours and I've been by
following your Musicum no, No, that's very yeah, I don't.
That's very kind. I feel so embarrassed that you've ben
said that from people. But one thing I loved, like,
I you know, I listened to albums and you you know,
(20:18):
I think you've been You've been in this game for
like thirty years now.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I feel like current.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
If I'm wrong, I feel like most of it you've
been kind of like almost pushing it indie style.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, most of me, most of it.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And I feel like your last few albums not this one.
The latest one, Confidence of Knowing is available on Apple
and Spotify, but your last two including Black Style two. Yes,
your album before that, your your solo album before that,
Like you released it on like, one was on Patreon,
one was on Luminary. I was like, as a fan
(20:48):
of yours, I knew you released it, but I would
have to like go and like digitally chase. It wasn't
like I could just press a button and listen to it.
And it reminded me of back in the day actually
having to chase music. And I mean quite frankly, it
made me like appreciative and more when I did find it,
because it made it like kind of difficult to get
in a way, like is that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It makes it special? Well, I know everybody here is
a fan of Joe Rogan and uh and I think
Joe Rogan is paid millions of dollars by Spotify for
people to listen to his podcast. But as an artist,
a musician on Spotify, I get a percentage of a
penny they don't pay any artists that are far any
music artists and advance like that. So I mean, I
(21:30):
think this, what's your problem, disparity, you know what I'm saying, disparity. So,
I mean streaming is very convenient for the fans. It's
not the fans' fault. But if you really want to
support music, you should go to band camp. You should
go to fans website. You can come to my band camp,
you come black Star band camp, you come to qualityclub
dot com, which is a store where I sell my
(21:50):
merch and and.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Albums and anything but streaming basically.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Right right right, I mean, look, go listen on streaming,
but then go act support the artists, and.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, it's a it's a mix, right mix. Some
of it is that people the music on streaming is
so convenient and so they use that. And the other
part is people don't know you, no, no, no, They
think that listening on Spotify, Apple Music is like helping you.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know, right, well, everything is dictated by the algorithm
right now, and whether it's what you listen to, what
you eat, what you watch on television, even your politics.
So this idea that online interaction is not real. I
feel like that's kind of what's helping our current political climate.
A lot of people slept on the fact that particularly
(22:40):
the right wing was pushing online and they were saying,
you know, don't engage, just just ignore that. It's not real.
And it turns out that these billionaires are using their
platforms to invest and help push policy and politics, and
so it's affecting everything. We're turning into like Ready Player
one right now.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So you're saying, your antidote to that is to stop
get off the streaming.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So this is not at all I mean, I mean,
right now, as you can see, I'm on Blue Sky
right now. You know what I'm saying, because as far
as I can tell, Blue Sky is the only one
that is not bending the need of Trump, you know
what I'm saying. But I mean, you know, so there
have been great communities built on TikTok, on meta, on Facebook,
(23:27):
on Instagram, even on x There there have been great
communities that have helped people. But at a at a
certain point, you gotta really sort of vote with your dollars,
to vote with your time and energy and all our
engagement that we voluntarily give to these people we're just
seeing as numbers to them, and we don't even own
this content, so you have to really think about where
you want to put your time and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Energy right as a consumer, as a fan, as a
fan of yeah person. So like, I mean, you've you've
been in this game for like thirty years now.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, And I think it's important to note that I'm
an artist that doesn't have a platinum record, but I'm
still on a day showed thirty years later, and I
feel like that, you know, thank you. I hope that
it can aspire people feel overwhelmed by like not getting
the props they deserve as artists.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Okay to yeah, come on the Daily Show.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But you don't have to be mainstream to be successful.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah, well yeah, no, for I mean, you're the I
think the d that there's art that you produce and
then there's commercial stuff, and that both they both have
that benefits. Yes, you know, I think why what really
made me a fan of you was that you kind
of I think you and most death for the first
guys to kind of show me hip hop as an
art form and not just a consumable thing to dance
(24:38):
at at.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah yeah nightclub, which shout out to most has happened
with alchemists.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, no, don't shout him out.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
This is this is you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
That's my part.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But I guess, I guess because you've been here for
thirty years now and you've seen what it was like
three years ago. You've seen what it's like now. So
what do you think the future of the music industry
is going?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
You know?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Is I mean? Because it doesn't sound good from what you're.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I mean, yeah, I think. I think that when it
comes to hip hop, too many people think of hip
hop as what the corporations are pushing on them, And
the hip hop community is way bigger than what you
be on the radio, what you see on videos. Hip
hop community is very vast. Matter of fact, I'm gonna
defend the hip hop community more than any genre. I
feel like hip hop has more social justice workers, more activists,
(25:22):
more people to speak up than any genre, hands down.
So even though we're pushed this sort of corporate, greedy, capitalistic, sexist,
violent image of hip hop, when you look at the
hip hop community as a whole, the this is where
the artist are becoming activist at right.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And But like what I guess, I was asking, like,
what is the way you think if you're a musician
right now and you're just getting started. Ye you know,
like what is the what is the your what would
you recommend to them?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
You know, like I would recommend that you stay far
away from the music industry right and build build industry
around yourself. You know what I'm saying, Like make yourself
a commodity. Make yourself not a commodity, but make yourself,
make it about yourself, and and bring a traffic to
what you're doing as opposed to sending traffic outside of yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Okay, okay, right, well let's go yeah, yeah, Well, you
know you've you've been in the game a long time.
You're also such a prominent activist for your community politically,
Like is I hate to ask you?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I hate to ask you, like I'm here for the question,
I know, but like you called me doctor Fumar Johnson
one of the smoke.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I hate to ask you, like as a black man,
but as a black man, can you explain like where
this appeal for Trump is coming from or where it's going?
You think?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, speaking on behalf of the entire black community.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Because I'll speak for you, speak.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
For I am king of the blacks, obviously, I think
that the way that people feel this despair, they feel
to feel like the system is against them and they
can't trust our leaders and they can't trust the politicians.
Welcome to how it feels to be black the whole time.
We even feel like that the whole time is so
(27:19):
this is not this kind of sucks. It does suck.
And this is why people, you know, they what they say,
They say they want the rhythm but not the blues.
You know what I'm saying. I will say this right now.
I see you push you know, people out there like
free Luigi. You know what I'm saying, Like I see
this push for people to be like eat the rich
and be anti oligarch in this push to explain class
(27:44):
divisions in class warfare and how these billionaire class they
don't care about race, racist, social contract. Of course it's
not even real, but this idea that we have to
focus on class above everything, and I want to make
sure that we don't erase the marginalized people of color
who started this fight for us and often get a
race at this time because the top ninety percent, over
(28:06):
the top ninety percent is straight white male on purpose.
So in America, because America started the idea of you know,
with the Atlantic slave trade, the construct of whiteness being
above all. This kind of started with the birth of
America because it's baked into America. You can't separate race
in class. Years ago, James Carville said it's the economy stupid,
(28:28):
But now it's the racism stupid. You know what I'm saying, Like,
you can't separate everything that they do when it comes
to immigration, when it comes to federal workers, when it
comes to the economy. It's based on white nationalists ideas.
This is why Eli Musk is doing Nazi salutes and
no one, no one cares, you know what I'm saying,
or they even try to defend you.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I wouldn't say no one cans.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But yeah, this is the radical left leg Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, we all own yeah trivia.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But like well, and I want to add to that,
it's not they're fooling us by making a stink. It's
about democrat versus Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I've never
been a Democrat. I voted Democrat before, I've never voted republican,
but I've never identified as a Democrat. This is not
about Democrat versus Republican. This is about good versus bad
This is about colonizers versus the colonize. This is about
(29:18):
the oligarchs versus the poor and working class people. It's
not about Democrat and Republican in this country. They change
philosophies anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Sure sure, sure, well you know, thank you. I just
want to say, yeah, thank you for coming on the show.
Thank you for your an, thank you for making a
love ol place. Thank you for your music. Thank you
your music gob me through some bad days. And also
it's a soundtrack for some of my better days. Thanks
so much for making it, and I can keep making music. Thanks,
(29:47):
thank you. The confidence of knowing is about now for
live quality. Everybody. Well we oh, we're gonna take a
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Speaker 1 (30:24):
Just do a yes or no question.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
Do you agree with President Trump's decision to pardon these
violent people and releasing them from jail?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
If they were truly violent. No, But do I know
that they were? I don't know that. What do you
mean you don't know that.
Speaker 10 (30:40):
We're showing the footage on the air right now. Congressmen,
you were there that day.
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