January 15, 2025 • 28 mins
Jordan Klepper recaps Pete Hegseth's contentious Senate confirmation hearing for Secretary of Defense. Desi Lydic teaches Jordan Klepper a lesson on digging too deeply into Trump's cabinet selects. Plus, a new Daily Showography | Pete Hegseth: Overserved with Honor.
Actor Boyd Holbrook sits down with Jordan Klepper to talk about his experience playing Johnny Cash in the new film, “A Complete Unknown.” They discuss working with director James Mangold on the legacy of playing Johnny Cash, Cash’s letters to Bob Dylan on the back of airplane barf bags, the pressures of portraying a real person on film, and how Christian Bale threw him a bone early in his career.
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Congress is super horny, Republicans pretend to vet Trump's cabinet,
and we get mixology tips from Pete Hegseth. So let's
get into another installment of Trump two point zero coming
for the White House.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm gonna come.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I truly hate that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So Donald Trump becomes president on Monday, and that means
I know, I hate Mondays too, but it means we're
invading Greenland on Tuesday. So we got to decide who
is going to lead the armada, which is why today
the Senate held its first confirmation hearing for Pete Hegseeth,
(01:23):
Trump's nominee for Defense Secretary and dude who makes sure
everyone at the frat house has their stories straight. Now,
since he was nominated a couple months ago, we found
out a lot about Hegseeth, and most of it does
not inspire confidence.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
He's been accused of sexual assault.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He was accused of nearly running a veterans group into
the ground, and he has a documented history of excessive drinking,
which we learned even more about today.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
A Hegseeth acquaintance describes a breakfast they had with Hegxeth
in the spring of twenty twenty three. We met at
Fox News in New York for breakfast, and he suggested
we go across the street to a bar. It was
like ten in them more. Then he ordered two gin
and Tonics at the same time for himself. Then he
had a third gin and tonic.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
He said, that's rolling up to breakfast like, I'll have
the steel cut oatmeal and three Gen and tonics.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Please.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know what they say, beer before liquor. Never been sicker,
liquor before liquor. I'll have another liquor. It's definitely raising
some questions for the person you may want to put
in charge of the nukes. So let's jump into today's
confirmation here in and you know what I'm not. I'm
not saying he showed up drunk, but it did start
at ten am. So how about we start with a
(02:39):
quick sobriety test. You know, something simple, Pete, how about
name your kids are seven?
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Wonderful kids, Gunner Jackson, Peter Boone, Kensington, Luke chat Rex,
Sorry it's a lot of them.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
And Gwendolen.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Little Tipsy Okay, big deal, all right, No, biggie. My
dad was always mixing up me and my siblings' names,
and he launched perfectly successful counteroffensive, rapid deployment, amphibious incursions
into I ran.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Although Pete probably should have given his kids names he
could remember more easily, maybe like Don Julio, Jim Beam,
Johnny Walker, Jose Cuerrevo, and don't forget little Michael hard Lemonade.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
No, now that that's over, it's time for the grilling Republicans.
I know he's your guy, but I also know you
love the military, so I'm sure you've got some hard
questions for the man who wants to run it.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Why do you want to do this job?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But you what drives?
Speaker 9 (03:47):
You?
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Tell me something about your wife that you love? How
many push ups could you do?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Follow up question, sir, I have this jar. Could a
big strong man like yourself open it?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Okay, But Democrats made up for those softballs with a
couple of pitches that were really high and inside.
Speaker 10 (04:08):
I assume that in each of your weddings you've pledged
to be faithful to your wife. You've taken an oath
to do that, haven't you. You've admitted that you had
sex at that hotel on October twenty seventeen, and you
were still married, and you just had a child by
another woman.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Again, how do you explain, your judge?
Speaker 10 (04:25):
You have admitted that you had sex while you were
married to wife two, after you just had fathered a
child by wife three, But you didn't reveal any of
this to President Trump. Why didn't you inform the commander
in chief of the transition team of this very relevant event?
Speaker 11 (04:41):
Oh damn, Tim Kaine would pull Maury Pulvits out there. Wow, Wow,
Tim Polvitch.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh loo, Come on, Tim, come on, you're asking why
didn't Hexa tell Trump about how many times he cheated
on his wife? Maybe because if he did, Trump would
high fight him so hard it would break both their hands. Okay,
that was a pretty wild line of questioning from Tim Kane.
Any Republican want to jump to his defense here?
Speaker 8 (05:17):
How many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?
And then how many senators do you know have got
a divorce before cheating on their wives. Did you ask
them to step down?
Speaker 12 (05:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But it's for show, you guys.
Speaker 12 (05:31):
Make sure you.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Make a big show and point out the hypocrisy. Because
a man's made a mistake and you want to sit
there and say that he's not qualified.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Give me a joke, Give me a joke.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Okay, okay, A priest, a rabbi, and Pete Haggs out.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Walk into a bar at ten am.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Are you happy now, Mark Qwain, I don't know this
was really the defense that Hexeth wanted though.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Look, we're all pieces.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Of shit here, but he without an Ashley Madison premium
account cast the first home. I'll tell you who else
probably didn't appreciate that defense. The other senators, they probably
got home and their wives were like I saw Mark
Wayne at the confirmation hearing today.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
He said that everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
In the Senate cheats on their wives. Honey, honey, you
can't trust Mark Wayne.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
He's confused. The man has two first names.
Speaker 11 (06:34):
Pushed together and sunny.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
But after that, they did in fact get into Hegsat's
policy positions, and there was one in particular policy that
had people very worked up.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You previously have made a series of inflammatory statements about.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Women in combat.
Speaker 10 (06:53):
In our recent podcast, you said, quote, I'm straight up
just saying we should not have women in combat roles.
Speaker 12 (06:59):
You say we need moms, but not in the military,
especially in combat units.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
What's wrong with a mom?
Speaker 12 (07:05):
By the way, once you have babies, you therefore are
no longer able to be lethal.
Speaker 11 (07:10):
Yeah, are you saying moms can't be lethal?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Does the name Casey Anthony mean nothing to you?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Thanks of that as a long record of insisting that
women have no place in combat. And you know what,
I'm sorry, libs, but that's just the way Pete is.
Maybe he's not good at leadership or management, or money
or vows or driving home past ten am, but the
one thing he does is stand his ground telling Pete
(07:45):
no women in combat roles.
Speaker 13 (07:47):
Let's make it very clear for everyone here today. As
Secretary of Defense, will you support women continuing to have
the opportunity to serve in combat roles?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yes, women will have access to ground combat roles.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
From Washington, DC, the flash apparently official at eleven twenty
five standard time, Pete Hegseth went woke. You know, perhaps
the most damning comment about Pete Hegseth came from Pete
Hegseth himself. When he's explaining what the military needs in
(08:29):
its leadership.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
The DEI policies of today are not putting meritocracy first.
Every single senior officer will be reviewed based on meritocracy,
getting anything that doesn't contribute to meritocracy out of how
decisions are made inside the Pentagon. Ensuring readiness and meritocracy
is front and center. Meritocracy, meritocracy, meritocracy.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Oh, I know what his next kid's going to be named.
You heard him? Though you heard him, folks.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
A military cannot function unless it's staffed by a system
based on pure merit where only the most qualified people
rise to the top. So says your next Secretary of
Defense will run the most complicated, powerful, deadly organization the
world has ever known, and his only qualification is that
Trump liked watching him sit on a couch on Saturday mornings.
(09:23):
But I'm listening to Republicans today it seems like that's
going to be enough to get him confirmed.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
I just want to say, for all the talk of
experience and not coming from the same cocktail parties that
Permanent Washington is used to you were a breath of
fresh air.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Well that's not what the breathalyzer said.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But but okay, form more like Pete haiks scatary as
we go live to the Capitol. We know he Seth
apparently has a history being drunk and abusive and corrupt.
(10:11):
What else has your reporting uncovered?
Speaker 14 (10:14):
I didn't do any reporting, Jordan, back to you, What.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Do you mean there's there's gotta be more shady stuff
in his past?
Speaker 14 (10:21):
Of course there is. He's Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 15 (10:23):
When you start drinking at ten am, you have a
full day of bad decisions. I'm sure he crashed his
second wife's jet ski into his third wife's beach house,
but I'm not going to torture myself reporting on it.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The less I know, the better, DESI. Transparency is important.
We need to know the extent of his drinking problem.
Speaker 14 (10:41):
We need to know the extent of his drinking problem.
Speaker 15 (10:43):
Come on, you really think that learning more about Pete's
past is going to actually stop his confirmation? Give me
a joke. So this is like going through your dad's
browser history. He's still going to be your dad, but
(11:04):
now there's a bunch of stuff you cann.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
See it's not that simple.
Speaker 15 (11:08):
I'll tell you it's not so simple. Your dad's browser
history because I went through it. Illiteratemilfs dot com. Okay,
good network, nip slips, nude Africa dot com.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, all right, No, there's no way that's.
Speaker 14 (11:23):
My dad, map quest dot com.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Oh god, that's my dad.
Speaker 15 (11:27):
Amtrak sluts, Janet, renocameltoe dot gut.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Stop it. Okay.
Speaker 14 (11:34):
See, ain't not so fun knowing things you can't do
anything about. Huh.
Speaker 15 (11:37):
Look, I spent Trump's first term knowing every single sexist, misogynist,
racist detail about his freak squad.
Speaker 14 (11:44):
And where did that get us? Four more years of
this freak squad?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
So what you're just gonna ignore it and not do
your job.
Speaker 15 (11:50):
It's called self care, Jordan. It was invented by Gwyneth
Paltrow in two thousand and eight. So at this point,
I don't want to know any of the disturbing details
about Trump's nominee. I don't want to ruin my day
finding out one of them killed a puppy.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Actually, Christy nom did kill a puppy.
Speaker 14 (12:06):
My god, why would you say that, you jack off?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Because she's nominated for Homeland Security?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Stop it?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Stop it, Stop it, so you can't just give up
knowing things? Does he Democracy dies in darkness, yes.
Speaker 15 (12:20):
But democracy also sleeps better in darkness. You can bundle
up all cozy and hide under its weighted blanket, numb
itself with CBD gummies until it wakes up in twenty
twenty eight?
Speaker 14 (12:32):
Doesn't that sound nice?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Oh? Do look? I know, I know it is hard.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Do I know it's scary, But it is the sacred
duty of journalists to investigate our leaders, to uncover the truth,
no matter how uncomfortable or upsetting it may be.
Speaker 15 (12:52):
Junkyard sluts, butt stuff. Junkyard sluts butt stuff, redheads okayse
hunting their own banks, Glenn Close, Cruella.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Ignorance is bliss, Daisy Laik Everyone, we come back and
find out more on America's Defense secretary. Don't go away,
Welcome back to the Daily Show. We've been following the
confirmation hearings for Secretary of Defense all day. But who
(13:27):
is the real Pete Hegseth. Let's find out in a
brand new Daily Shoography.
Speaker 12 (13:32):
Across the globe, the enemies of Uncle Sam are on
the much and the biggest war of all is the
culture war. Taking on these kinky booted thugs demands a
hero like no other, a man who will fight for America,
for Mecca, and most of all, for his right to party.
This is the daily geography of Pete Hegseth, over served
(13:53):
with honor. Pete Hegseth grew up in the Midwest, the
most American part of America. He was the all American boy,
the varsity athlete who married his high school sweetheart, his
best girl, who would then go on to be his
second best girl, and then his third best girl. A
family man through and through, he went through several families.
(14:17):
It was at Princeton University that Pete first enlisted in
the Culture War.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I ran the conservative publication at on our campus.
Speaker 12 (14:24):
We were like bomb throwing fighting valiantly against the forces
of diversity and gay. He championed traditional relationships between men
and women, even if the woman is passed out drunk,
I mean technically being unconscious, as anti woke as you
can get. After graduation, haig Seth joined the military, having
given the matter careful consideration.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I didn't know the army from the Marine Corps. I
mean I didn't know anything back home.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
In twenty twelve, he decided to serve his country in
another way.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
My name's Pete, hegseth, and I'm running to be your
next United States Senator.
Speaker 12 (14:58):
Sadly, it was not to be, and Pete dropped out
of the race to spend more time with whichever wife
and family he was up to. About that, honestly, it's
hard to keep track. Instead, Pete landed a job as
the head of a small nonprofit veterans group, which became
even more nonprofit after he nearly drove it into bankruptcy.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Don't worry, the.
Speaker 12 (15:17):
Money went to a good cause.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Partying.
Speaker 12 (15:22):
He was once again a man with a mission, and
the stories of his exploits became legendary, with the organization's
HR department, passing out in party buses, urinating on hotel lawns,
leading a bar in chance of kill all Muslims, and
getting kicked out of a strip club for trying to
dance on stage. Eventually, his luck ran out, and Pete
(15:45):
found himself dishonorably discharged from his nonprofit platoon. He was
now almost completely without friends.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Almost come on a Bete, your next don.
Speaker 12 (15:56):
Fox and Friends, And while even Fox News had a
employees who quietly complained about Hegseth's habit of showing up
Trump for work at six am. The network was mostly
a perfect culture fit.
Speaker 14 (16:08):
I've always wanted to do this.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I will not be abstaining from alcohol.
Speaker 12 (16:13):
Maybe if I do well, I'll get a pint, a
little bit of champagne.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I'm gonna get another rebuild.
Speaker 13 (16:17):
Hold on Champagne is my problem when it comes to hangovers.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
It just it fixes the problem in the morning, because
when you have a little bit more champagne and then
your problem goes away.
Speaker 12 (16:26):
Who better to fight terrorism than the only soldier who's
been waterboarded was Champagne. More importantly, Fox brought Hegseth back
to the front lines of the culture war.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, Black Lives matter, trying to destroy Christmas as we
know it.
Speaker 16 (16:42):
It's actually not hyperbole, indoctrinating our kids, opening our borders,
canceling individuals, Wuhan virus, Chinese virus, maybe even the Kung flu.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Apparently there's new lesbian characters.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
It's a female empowerment.
Speaker 16 (16:57):
Can the black panther be played by a white guy.
Speaker 12 (17:00):
With brain power like that? It was no wonder heg
Seth decided he didn't need his grad school diploma anymore,
by the way.
Speaker 14 (17:06):
Harvard University.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Let's see, let's do that.
Speaker 12 (17:09):
And there were still some challenges along the way, like
the time heg Seth was banned from an assignment with
his National Guard unit because someone noticed what looked like
a white nationalist tattoo. But soon this recipient of two
Bronze Stars earned the respect of America's greatest Bronze Star.
And when Trump was re elected in twenty twenty four,
he knew where to find his Secretary of Defense who
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was willing to get his hands dirty.
Speaker 14 (17:33):
I don't think I've washed my hands for ten years.
Speaker 12 (17:35):
Pete had his plans for winning the culture War ready.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Any general that was involved, general, admiral, whatever, that was
involved in any of the DEI woke, shit, it's gotta go.
I'm straight up just saying we should not have women
in comment roles.
Speaker 12 (17:47):
His confirmation seemed like a sure thing, but then.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
In ambush breaking news, the president of Lex Team has
been caught off guard by a sexual assault allegation against.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
A whistleblower report.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
It claims when Hegseeth was president of Concerned Veterans for America,
he was quote repeatedly intoxicated to the point of needing
to be carried out of the organizations of bents.
Speaker 12 (18:10):
The allegations of hegseth debauchery were overwhelming. Nothing now would
be able to persuade the Senate that he was fit for.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I intend to support Pete.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
He made the pledge to me that.
Speaker 13 (18:20):
He will not touch a drop of alcoholis secretary.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
He offered up to me that he's not drinking, and
that's not something he's going to do when he's confirmed here.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
Oh well, never mind then, and so America's war on
woke is now truly ready to begin. With Pete Hegseth
at the Helm, the Department of Defense will finally have
a true leader. May if I do well, I'll get
a pint, and one can only assume absolutely insane Christmas parties.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
We come back, Boyd Holbrook, if you're joining me on
the show, don't go away, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
My guest tonight as an actor who plays Johnny Cash
and the film A Complete Unknown.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Please welcome, Boyd Holbrook, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Thank you for having, of course thang.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
You just watching that scene a convincing drunk right, Yes,
you're both Johnny Cash and an inebriated Johnny Cash in
that specific scene.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
How do you how do you prepare? Do you go
method in a drunk scene?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, you definitely want to go method for a twelve
hour shoot. It's really hard to keep that up.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah, what do you do in that?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I've heard detail and sometimes as you pretend not to
be drunk, and that's how you become drunk or look drunk.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, Ray Liota used to say you should just have
your head stand upside down for you know, a minute
or two. But really it's just about playing. It's just
about finding your way around the sets. Yeah, and trying
to you know, crash into thing, just.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Just bump into the and literally they let you do
this with a car, that's right. Yeah, So you played
Johnny Cash, which is a tough thing to do an
iconic character in American history. But James Mangle, who directed this,
also directed Walk the Line, famously Walking Phoenix played Johnny Cash.
So you're walking into that. You got a lot of
a lot of big shoes to fill, big shoes to fill.
(20:30):
Did you guys discuss like how your Johnny Cash would
be different than Johnny Cash or how is there an
mcu metaverse, separate thing going on here.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, you know, I probably wouldn't have touched this role
if it went for James Mangold. You know, as you said,
he made Walk the Line very big shoes to field
playing Johnny Cash after Walking Phoenix. But you know, it
was in the research that James had done with Bob
found out their pin pals and they'd written all these
letters back and forth to each other. Johnny had reached
(21:02):
out to him the beginning. Yea, So I saw the
importance of Johnny and Bob's life at that time. Yeah,
And I've worked with Jim two previous times and it's
just the best working experience I've ever had, So it
was definitely a leap of faith to go there. But yeah,
uh yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
The captain, he's now. The letters are fascinating because they
truly are. They're very They showed like a personal side
to Cash and that kind of they found that they
lived isolated lives in their own fame, but were able
to sort of reach out and talk to one of them.
Did you did you see those letters? Did you work
off of those letters? I know they show up in
the film. Yeah, this seems very honest to that part
of the history.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Mm hmm, yeah, I'd reread them on the way over here,
and they're written on the back of airplanes, sickness bags
and and really just two guys at the you know,
the you know, epic of.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Fame without stationary.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's such a comment on face.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You know, it's so.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Famous, but you can't afford stationary and you're the top
of your game at this time.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, there's no spell check or autocorrect at that.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Well, this film takes a lot of efforts to be
honest to the time period, and a lot of nerds,
dilenologists go over little bits and pieces of this movie
call out things, and this movie takes good care. And
as somebody who's definitely not a dilenologist or a weird
nerd like this, I had a question about the bugles
(22:30):
that you.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Used in that scene. There's a moment in that drunk.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Scene where you're holding bugles and you offer them to
Bob Dylan, and a nerdy dilenologist might point out the
fact that bugles weren't nationally around in nineteen sixty four,
let alone in Newport, Rhode Island, And I wonder that
was a choice that you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Were making with You totally got us on that one.
It was the Deridos the of the era. Yeah, uh huh, yeah.
You know, Jim has this great way of just finding
these little moments and films and if you come in prepared,
you can you know, have the coke bottle flying off
the car. We can create a prop in the in
the car. It's just really coming up with those.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Ideas, why bugles, why the bule?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Because I think there's so what are they They're just
they're they're not They're not in modern day.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I guess well, I mean you can get bugles.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
My mom puts Bugles in checks mix, which is a
real good hack for anybody out there at all. Is
it a musical reference because the bugle itself is musical.
It says if Johnny Cash is passing the.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Music of I didn't want to spell it out.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
For you, Okay, you.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You're kind of painted me into a corner.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
So yeah, I've leave a little bit of mystery out
there as well. Right, do you like do you like
creating a character based on somebody that's that already exists,
or do you like the idea of creating a character
from scratch?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
If I've kind of made a living playing all these
little small characters in these films, and I prefer character work.
But when you play an iconic person like this, you
do have some sort of a pocket to be in.
You know, there's the iconic voice that you're that you're
making impression of, there's the sound of him, and so
(24:15):
I had two interviews that I just knew verbatim, and
if I went out to my own speaking voice, I
could always refer back to that. So it's almost like
you're in a pocket of an e or a certain
like a song is in c So you just know
where this character lies all the time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, I'm curious what response you've gotten, because I mean,
just as an audience, people watch a performance, but they
know what you're aiming at. They have they have a
reference point for the attempt. In some ways, in watching
your performance is sort of like watching you as a
trap peece artist. We know, we know what the pract
falls could be and what you want to what your
(24:52):
goal is at the end, as opposed to watching a
complete creation, a new creation, which was sort of investing
in the discovery of what you find. Have you noticed
a different response from movies where you are portraying people
who do exist that an audience watches.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh gosh, you know my whole thing. With a legendary
person like this, you really just don't want to tarnish
their image, and to take this on was a real challenge.
But in difference of character to this character, there was
a I would say there was a lot of pressure
in terms of that of just taking them out of
(25:29):
the movie. And I think that's really the important part
of this. And you can really get lost in this
film and taken back to the sixties of when all
this iconic music was being made in such a pivotal time.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I'm curious because sort of embedded in this relationship are
these these two artists who sort of found a companionship
through these weird times. Is there in your creative life?
Is there somebody else who's a cash or a Dylan
in your uh?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
In your creative pursuit?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Are you writing on the back of any kind of
barf bags to anybody?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm not riding on the back of any airplanes thickness bags.
I have my own heroes that I look up to.
Michael Shannon is a great actor. He's from Kentucky. He
really inspired me to be an actor. Christian Bale threw
me a bone and brought me onto a film early
in my career. You know, I think it's sometimes you
don't want to meet your your you know, your your heroes.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, this must be awkward for you.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, it is strange. Well, I.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Hope I lived up to everything that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Was in your head.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was truly an honor, truly good luck.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
And when you get to play me in that biopic
years down the line, should we get a pick after this?
We can totally get a picked. We can totally get
a pick, all right, but don't but just let me
know if you use bugle, I'll give you a little
secret for me.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's not bugles, okay, it's freedoms. Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So yeah, just live hour patch my mythology. The movie
is truly wonderful. I loved it, Thank you very much.
A Complete Unknown is in theaters now, Boyd brom gonna
take quick.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Right, that's a show for tonight now here.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
It is another of By the way, would you explain
what a jag off is?
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I don't think I need to, sir. Why not because
the men and women watching understand?
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Well, perhaps some of my colleagues don't understand.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
It would be a JAG officer who puts his or
her own priorities in front of the warfighters, their promotions,
their medals, in front of having the backs that those
are making the tough calls on the front lines.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Thank you so interesting.
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Congress is super horny, Republicans pretend to vet Trump's cabinet,
and we get mixology tips from Pete Hegseth. So let's
get into another installment of Trump two point zero coming
for the White House.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm gonna come.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I truly hate that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So Donald Trump becomes president on Monday, and that means
I know, I hate Mondays too, but it means we're
invading Greenland on Tuesday. So we got to decide who
is going to lead the armada, which is why today
the Senate held its first confirmation hearing for Pete Hegseeth,
(01:23):
Trump's nominee for Defense Secretary and dude who makes sure
everyone at the frat house has their stories straight. Now,
since he was nominated a couple months ago, we found
out a lot about Hegseeth, and most of it does
not inspire confidence.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
He's been accused of sexual assault.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He was accused of nearly running a veterans group into
the ground, and he has a documented history of excessive drinking,
which we learned even more about today.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
A Hegseeth acquaintance describes a breakfast they had with Hegxeth
in the spring of twenty twenty three. We met at
Fox News in New York for breakfast, and he suggested
we go across the street to a bar. It was
like ten in them more. Then he ordered two gin
and Tonics at the same time for himself. Then he
had a third gin and tonic.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
He said, that's rolling up to breakfast like, I'll have
the steel cut oatmeal and three Gen and tonics.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Please.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know what they say, beer before liquor. Never been sicker,
liquor before liquor. I'll have another liquor. It's definitely raising
some questions for the person you may want to put
in charge of the nukes. So let's jump into today's
confirmation here in and you know what I'm not. I'm
not saying he showed up drunk, but it did start
at ten am. So how about we start with a
(02:39):
quick sobriety test. You know, something simple, Pete, how about
name your kids are seven?
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Wonderful kids, Gunner Jackson, Peter Boone, Kensington, Luke chat Rex,
Sorry it's a lot of them.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
And Gwendolen.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Little Tipsy Okay, big deal, all right, No, biggie. My
dad was always mixing up me and my siblings' names,
and he launched perfectly successful counteroffensive, rapid deployment, amphibious incursions
into I ran.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Although Pete probably should have given his kids names he
could remember more easily, maybe like Don Julio, Jim Beam,
Johnny Walker, Jose Cuerrevo, and don't forget little Michael hard Lemonade.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
No, now that that's over, it's time for the grilling Republicans.
I know he's your guy, but I also know you
love the military, so I'm sure you've got some hard
questions for the man who wants to run it.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Why do you want to do this job?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But you what drives?
Speaker 9 (03:47):
You?
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Tell me something about your wife that you love? How
many push ups could you do?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Follow up question, sir, I have this jar. Could a
big strong man like yourself open it?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Okay, But Democrats made up for those softballs with a
couple of pitches that were really high and inside.
Speaker 10 (04:08):
I assume that in each of your weddings you've pledged
to be faithful to your wife. You've taken an oath
to do that, haven't you. You've admitted that you had
sex at that hotel on October twenty seventeen, and you
were still married, and you just had a child by
another woman.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
Again, how do you explain, your judge?
Speaker 10 (04:25):
You have admitted that you had sex while you were
married to wife two, after you just had fathered a
child by wife three, But you didn't reveal any of
this to President Trump. Why didn't you inform the commander
in chief of the transition team of this very relevant event?
Speaker 11 (04:41):
Oh damn, Tim Kaine would pull Maury Pulvits out there. Wow, Wow,
Tim Polvitch.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh loo, Come on, Tim, come on, you're asking why
didn't Hexa tell Trump about how many times he cheated
on his wife? Maybe because if he did, Trump would
high fight him so hard it would break both their hands. Okay,
that was a pretty wild line of questioning from Tim Kane.
Any Republican want to jump to his defense here?
Speaker 8 (05:17):
How many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?
And then how many senators do you know have got
a divorce before cheating on their wives. Did you ask
them to step down?
Speaker 12 (05:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But it's for show, you guys.
Speaker 12 (05:31):
Make sure you.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Make a big show and point out the hypocrisy. Because
a man's made a mistake and you want to sit
there and say that he's not qualified.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Give me a joke, Give me a joke.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Okay, okay, A priest, a rabbi, and Pete Haggs out.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Walk into a bar at ten am.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Are you happy now, Mark Qwain, I don't know this
was really the defense that Hexeth wanted though.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Look, we're all pieces.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Of shit here, but he without an Ashley Madison premium
account cast the first home. I'll tell you who else
probably didn't appreciate that defense. The other senators, they probably
got home and their wives were like I saw Mark
Wayne at the confirmation hearing today.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
He said that everyone.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
In the Senate cheats on their wives. Honey, honey, you
can't trust Mark Wayne.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
He's confused. The man has two first names.
Speaker 11 (06:34):
Pushed together and sunny.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
But after that, they did in fact get into Hegsat's
policy positions, and there was one in particular policy that
had people very worked up.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You previously have made a series of inflammatory statements about.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Women in combat.
Speaker 10 (06:53):
In our recent podcast, you said, quote, I'm straight up
just saying we should not have women in combat roles.
Speaker 12 (06:59):
You say we need moms, but not in the military,
especially in combat units.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
What's wrong with a mom?
Speaker 12 (07:05):
By the way, once you have babies, you therefore are
no longer able to be lethal.
Speaker 11 (07:10):
Yeah, are you saying moms can't be lethal?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Does the name Casey Anthony mean nothing to you?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Thanks of that as a long record of insisting that
women have no place in combat. And you know what,
I'm sorry, libs, but that's just the way Pete is.
Maybe he's not good at leadership or management, or money
or vows or driving home past ten am, but the
one thing he does is stand his ground telling Pete
(07:45):
no women in combat roles.
Speaker 13 (07:47):
Let's make it very clear for everyone here today. As
Secretary of Defense, will you support women continuing to have
the opportunity to serve in combat roles?
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yes, women will have access to ground combat roles.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
From Washington, DC, the flash apparently official at eleven twenty
five standard time, Pete Hegseth went woke. You know, perhaps
the most damning comment about Pete Hegseth came from Pete
Hegseth himself. When he's explaining what the military needs in
(08:29):
its leadership.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
The DEI policies of today are not putting meritocracy first.
Every single senior officer will be reviewed based on meritocracy,
getting anything that doesn't contribute to meritocracy out of how
decisions are made inside the Pentagon. Ensuring readiness and meritocracy
is front and center. Meritocracy, meritocracy, meritocracy.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Oh, I know what his next kid's going to be named.
You heard him? Though you heard him, folks.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
A military cannot function unless it's staffed by a system
based on pure merit where only the most qualified people
rise to the top. So says your next Secretary of
Defense will run the most complicated, powerful, deadly organization the
world has ever known, and his only qualification is that
Trump liked watching him sit on a couch on Saturday mornings.
(09:23):
But I'm listening to Republicans today it seems like that's
going to be enough to get him confirmed.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
I just want to say, for all the talk of
experience and not coming from the same cocktail parties that
Permanent Washington is used to you were a breath of
fresh air.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Well that's not what the breathalyzer said.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
But but okay, form more like Pete haiks scatary as
we go live to the Capitol. We know he Seth
apparently has a history being drunk and abusive and corrupt.
(10:11):
What else has your reporting uncovered?
Speaker 14 (10:14):
I didn't do any reporting, Jordan, back to you, What.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Do you mean there's there's gotta be more shady stuff
in his past?
Speaker 14 (10:21):
Of course there is. He's Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 15 (10:23):
When you start drinking at ten am, you have a
full day of bad decisions. I'm sure he crashed his
second wife's jet ski into his third wife's beach house,
but I'm not going to torture myself reporting on it.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The less I know, the better, DESI. Transparency is important.
We need to know the extent of his drinking problem.
Speaker 14 (10:41):
We need to know the extent of his drinking problem.
Speaker 15 (10:43):
Come on, you really think that learning more about Pete's
past is going to actually stop his confirmation? Give me
a joke. So this is like going through your dad's
browser history. He's still going to be your dad, but
(11:04):
now there's a bunch of stuff you cann.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
See it's not that simple.
Speaker 15 (11:08):
I'll tell you it's not so simple. Your dad's browser
history because I went through it. Illiteratemilfs dot com. Okay,
good network, nip slips, nude Africa dot com.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Okay, all right, No, there's no way that's.
Speaker 14 (11:23):
My dad, map quest dot com.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Oh god, that's my dad.
Speaker 15 (11:27):
Amtrak sluts, Janet, renocameltoe dot gut.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Stop it. Okay.
Speaker 14 (11:34):
See, ain't not so fun knowing things you can't do
anything about. Huh.
Speaker 15 (11:37):
Look, I spent Trump's first term knowing every single sexist, misogynist,
racist detail about his freak squad.
Speaker 14 (11:44):
And where did that get us? Four more years of
this freak squad?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
So what you're just gonna ignore it and not do
your job.
Speaker 15 (11:50):
It's called self care, Jordan. It was invented by Gwyneth
Paltrow in two thousand and eight. So at this point,
I don't want to know any of the disturbing details
about Trump's nominee. I don't want to ruin my day
finding out one of them killed a puppy.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Actually, Christy nom did kill a puppy.
Speaker 14 (12:06):
My god, why would you say that, you jack off?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Because she's nominated for Homeland Security?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Stop it?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Stop it, Stop it, so you can't just give up
knowing things? Does he Democracy dies in darkness, yes.
Speaker 15 (12:20):
But democracy also sleeps better in darkness. You can bundle
up all cozy and hide under its weighted blanket, numb
itself with CBD gummies until it wakes up in twenty
twenty eight?
Speaker 14 (12:32):
Doesn't that sound nice?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Oh? Do look? I know, I know it is hard.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Do I know it's scary, But it is the sacred
duty of journalists to investigate our leaders, to uncover the truth,
no matter how uncomfortable or upsetting it may be.
Speaker 15 (12:52):
Junkyard sluts, butt stuff. Junkyard sluts butt stuff, redheads okayse
hunting their own banks, Glenn Close, Cruella.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Ignorance is bliss, Daisy Laik Everyone, we come back and
find out more on America's Defense secretary. Don't go away,
Welcome back to the Daily Show. We've been following the
confirmation hearings for Secretary of Defense all day. But who
(13:27):
is the real Pete Hegseth. Let's find out in a
brand new Daily Shoography.
Speaker 12 (13:32):
Across the globe, the enemies of Uncle Sam are on
the much and the biggest war of all is the
culture war. Taking on these kinky booted thugs demands a
hero like no other, a man who will fight for America,
for Mecca, and most of all, for his right to party.
This is the daily geography of Pete Hegseth, over served
(13:53):
with honor. Pete Hegseth grew up in the Midwest, the
most American part of America. He was the all American boy,
the varsity athlete who married his high school sweetheart, his
best girl, who would then go on to be his
second best girl, and then his third best girl. A
family man through and through, he went through several families.
(14:17):
It was at Princeton University that Pete first enlisted in
the Culture War.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I ran the conservative publication at on our campus.
Speaker 12 (14:24):
We were like bomb throwing fighting valiantly against the forces
of diversity and gay. He championed traditional relationships between men
and women, even if the woman is passed out drunk,
I mean technically being unconscious, as anti woke as you
can get. After graduation, haig Seth joined the military, having
given the matter careful consideration.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
I didn't know the army from the Marine Corps. I
mean I didn't know anything back home.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
In twenty twelve, he decided to serve his country in
another way.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
My name's Pete, hegseth, and I'm running to be your
next United States Senator.
Speaker 12 (14:58):
Sadly, it was not to be, and Pete dropped out
of the race to spend more time with whichever wife
and family he was up to. About that, honestly, it's
hard to keep track. Instead, Pete landed a job as
the head of a small nonprofit veterans group, which became
even more nonprofit after he nearly drove it into bankruptcy.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Don't worry, the.
Speaker 12 (15:17):
Money went to a good cause.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Partying.
Speaker 12 (15:22):
He was once again a man with a mission, and
the stories of his exploits became legendary, with the organization's
HR department, passing out in party buses, urinating on hotel lawns,
leading a bar in chance of kill all Muslims, and
getting kicked out of a strip club for trying to
dance on stage. Eventually, his luck ran out, and Pete
(15:45):
found himself dishonorably discharged from his nonprofit platoon. He was
now almost completely without friends.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Almost come on a Bete, your next don.
Speaker 12 (15:56):
Fox and Friends, And while even Fox News had a
employees who quietly complained about Hegseth's habit of showing up
Trump for work at six am. The network was mostly
a perfect culture fit.
Speaker 14 (16:08):
I've always wanted to do this.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
I will not be abstaining from alcohol.
Speaker 12 (16:13):
Maybe if I do well, I'll get a pint, a
little bit of champagne.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I'm gonna get another rebuild.
Speaker 13 (16:17):
Hold on Champagne is my problem when it comes to hangovers.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
It just it fixes the problem in the morning, because
when you have a little bit more champagne and then
your problem goes away.
Speaker 12 (16:26):
Who better to fight terrorism than the only soldier who's
been waterboarded was Champagne. More importantly, Fox brought Hegseth back
to the front lines of the culture war.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, Black Lives matter, trying to destroy Christmas as we
know it.
Speaker 16 (16:42):
It's actually not hyperbole, indoctrinating our kids, opening our borders,
canceling individuals, Wuhan virus, Chinese virus, maybe even the Kung flu.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Apparently there's new lesbian characters.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
It's a female empowerment.
Speaker 16 (16:57):
Can the black panther be played by a white guy.
Speaker 12 (17:00):
With brain power like that? It was no wonder heg
Seth decided he didn't need his grad school diploma anymore,
by the way.
Speaker 14 (17:06):
Harvard University.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Let's see, let's do that.
Speaker 12 (17:09):
And there were still some challenges along the way, like
the time heg Seth was banned from an assignment with
his National Guard unit because someone noticed what looked like
a white nationalist tattoo. But soon this recipient of two
Bronze Stars earned the respect of America's greatest Bronze Star.
And when Trump was re elected in twenty twenty four,
he knew where to find his Secretary of Defense who
(17:31):
was willing to get his hands dirty.
Speaker 14 (17:33):
I don't think I've washed my hands for ten years.
Speaker 12 (17:35):
Pete had his plans for winning the culture War ready.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Any general that was involved, general, admiral, whatever, that was
involved in any of the DEI woke, shit, it's gotta go.
I'm straight up just saying we should not have women
in comment roles.
Speaker 12 (17:47):
His confirmation seemed like a sure thing, but then.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
In ambush breaking news, the president of Lex Team has
been caught off guard by a sexual assault allegation against.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
A whistleblower report.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
It claims when Hegseeth was president of Concerned Veterans for America,
he was quote repeatedly intoxicated to the point of needing
to be carried out of the organizations of bents.
Speaker 12 (18:10):
The allegations of hegseth debauchery were overwhelming. Nothing now would
be able to persuade the Senate that he was fit for.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I intend to support Pete.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
He made the pledge to me that.
Speaker 13 (18:20):
He will not touch a drop of alcoholis secretary.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
He offered up to me that he's not drinking, and
that's not something he's going to do when he's confirmed here.
Speaker 12 (18:28):
Oh well, never mind then, and so America's war on
woke is now truly ready to begin. With Pete Hegseth
at the Helm, the Department of Defense will finally have
a true leader. May if I do well, I'll get
a pint, and one can only assume absolutely insane Christmas parties.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
We come back, Boyd Holbrook, if you're joining me on
the show, don't go away, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
My guest tonight as an actor who plays Johnny Cash
and the film A Complete Unknown.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Please welcome, Boyd Holbrook, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Thank you for having, of course thang.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
You just watching that scene a convincing drunk right, Yes,
you're both Johnny Cash and an inebriated Johnny Cash in
that specific scene.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
How do you how do you prepare? Do you go
method in a drunk scene?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, you definitely want to go method for a twelve
hour shoot. It's really hard to keep that up.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah, what do you do in that?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I've heard detail and sometimes as you pretend not to
be drunk, and that's how you become drunk or look drunk.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Well, Ray Liota used to say you should just have
your head stand upside down for you know, a minute
or two. But really it's just about playing. It's just
about finding your way around the sets. Yeah, and trying
to you know, crash into thing, just.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Just bump into the and literally they let you do
this with a car, that's right. Yeah, So you played
Johnny Cash, which is a tough thing to do an
iconic character in American history. But James Mangle, who directed this,
also directed Walk the Line, famously Walking Phoenix played Johnny Cash.
So you're walking into that. You got a lot of
a lot of big shoes to fill, big shoes to fill.
(20:30):
Did you guys discuss like how your Johnny Cash would
be different than Johnny Cash or how is there an
mcu metaverse, separate thing going on here.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, you know, I probably wouldn't have touched this role
if it went for James Mangold. You know, as you said,
he made Walk the Line very big shoes to field
playing Johnny Cash after Walking Phoenix. But you know, it
was in the research that James had done with Bob
found out their pin pals and they'd written all these
letters back and forth to each other. Johnny had reached
(21:02):
out to him the beginning. Yea, So I saw the
importance of Johnny and Bob's life at that time. Yeah,
And I've worked with Jim two previous times and it's
just the best working experience I've ever had, So it
was definitely a leap of faith to go there. But yeah,
uh yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
The captain, he's now. The letters are fascinating because they
truly are. They're very They showed like a personal side
to Cash and that kind of they found that they
lived isolated lives in their own fame, but were able
to sort of reach out and talk to one of them.
Did you did you see those letters? Did you work
off of those letters? I know they show up in
the film. Yeah, this seems very honest to that part
of the history.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Mm hmm, yeah, I'd reread them on the way over here,
and they're written on the back of airplanes, sickness bags
and and really just two guys at the you know,
the you know, epic of.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Fame without stationary.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, yeah, that's such a comment on face.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You know, it's so.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Famous, but you can't afford stationary and you're the top
of your game at this time.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, there's no spell check or autocorrect at that.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
No.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Well, this film takes a lot of efforts to be
honest to the time period, and a lot of nerds,
dilenologists go over little bits and pieces of this movie
call out things, and this movie takes good care. And
as somebody who's definitely not a dilenologist or a weird
nerd like this, I had a question about the bugles
(22:30):
that you.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Used in that scene. There's a moment in that drunk.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Scene where you're holding bugles and you offer them to
Bob Dylan, and a nerdy dilenologist might point out the
fact that bugles weren't nationally around in nineteen sixty four,
let alone in Newport, Rhode Island, And I wonder that
was a choice that you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Were making with You totally got us on that one.
It was the Deridos the of the era. Yeah, uh huh, yeah.
You know, Jim has this great way of just finding
these little moments and films and if you come in prepared,
you can you know, have the coke bottle flying off
the car. We can create a prop in the in
the car. It's just really coming up with those.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Ideas, why bugles, why the bule?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Because I think there's so what are they They're just
they're they're not They're not in modern day.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I guess well, I mean you can get bugles.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
My mom puts Bugles in checks mix, which is a
real good hack for anybody out there at all. Is
it a musical reference because the bugle itself is musical.
It says if Johnny Cash is passing the.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Music of I didn't want to spell it out.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
For you, Okay, you.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You're kind of painted me into a corner.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
So yeah, I've leave a little bit of mystery out
there as well. Right, do you like do you like
creating a character based on somebody that's that already exists,
or do you like the idea of creating a character
from scratch?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
If I've kind of made a living playing all these
little small characters in these films, and I prefer character work.
But when you play an iconic person like this, you
do have some sort of a pocket to be in.
You know, there's the iconic voice that you're that you're
making impression of, there's the sound of him, and so
(24:15):
I had two interviews that I just knew verbatim, and
if I went out to my own speaking voice, I
could always refer back to that. So it's almost like
you're in a pocket of an e or a certain
like a song is in c So you just know
where this character lies all the time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, I'm curious what response you've gotten, because I mean,
just as an audience, people watch a performance, but they
know what you're aiming at. They have they have a
reference point for the attempt. In some ways, in watching
your performance is sort of like watching you as a
trap peece artist. We know, we know what the pract
falls could be and what you want to what your
(24:52):
goal is at the end, as opposed to watching a
complete creation, a new creation, which was sort of investing
in the discovery of what you find. Have you noticed
a different response from movies where you are portraying people
who do exist that an audience watches.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh gosh, you know my whole thing. With a legendary
person like this, you really just don't want to tarnish
their image, and to take this on was a real challenge.
But in difference of character to this character, there was
a I would say there was a lot of pressure
in terms of that of just taking them out of
(25:29):
the movie. And I think that's really the important part
of this. And you can really get lost in this
film and taken back to the sixties of when all
this iconic music was being made in such a pivotal time.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I'm curious because sort of embedded in this relationship are
these these two artists who sort of found a companionship
through these weird times. Is there in your creative life?
Is there somebody else who's a cash or a Dylan
in your uh?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
In your creative pursuit?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Are you writing on the back of any kind of
barf bags to anybody?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm not riding on the back of any airplanes thickness bags.
I have my own heroes that I look up to.
Michael Shannon is a great actor. He's from Kentucky. He
really inspired me to be an actor. Christian Bale threw
me a bone and brought me onto a film early
in my career. You know, I think it's sometimes you
don't want to meet your your you know, your your heroes.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, this must be awkward for you.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, it is strange. Well, I.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Hope I lived up to everything that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Was in your head.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It was truly an honor, truly good luck.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
And when you get to play me in that biopic
years down the line, should we get a pick after this?
We can totally get a picked. We can totally get
a pick, all right, but don't but just let me
know if you use bugle, I'll give you a little
secret for me.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's not bugles, okay, it's freedoms. Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So yeah, just live hour patch my mythology. The movie
is truly wonderful. I loved it, Thank you very much.
A Complete Unknown is in theaters now, Boyd brom gonna
take quick.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Right, that's a show for tonight now here.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
It is another of By the way, would you explain
what a jag off is?
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I don't think I need to, sir. Why not because
the men and women watching understand?
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Well, perhaps some of my colleagues don't understand.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
It would be a JAG officer who puts his or
her own priorities in front of the warfighters, their promotions,
their medals, in front of having the backs that those
are making the tough calls on the front lines.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Thank you so interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
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