December 2, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan discusses a weekend of football highlighted by Ohio State HC Ryan Day's loss to Michigan, and Bears HC Matt Eberflus getting fired after mismanaging the clock on Thanksgiving.
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the bills roll the forty nine ers and your MVP
candidate right now, it's Josh Allens to lose, and it's
been that way for a couple of weeks. Christian McCaffrey
out may be done for the year year. The Eagles
over the Ravens. They are the second best team in football,
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and I am including the Bills in that. It's the
Detroit Lions, the Eagles, then the Bills in my opinion,
and don't count out the Steelers. The Steelers have a
two game lead in the AFC North and they own
the tiebreaker against the Ravens. So the Steelers they outlast
the Bengals. The Bears need a new head coach. They
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needed a new head coach when they had a head coach.
The Vikings over the Cardinals, Seatons, Chargers over the Falcons,
and Trevor Lawrence out with a chief shot, and the
question is will he play again this season with college football?
Obviously Ohio State losing to Michigan, Georgia survives, and then
you've got the rest of the situation here that they're
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going to try to put together. Put it in a blender,
and then tomorrow night we'll figure out where things are stand.
South Carolina might be as good as anybody right now
in the country. Syracuse drops Miami. Penn State might be
the second ranked team. And I didn't say second best.
I said the second ranked team in the country. When
the rankings come out. We got football coming up tonight,
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the Browns at Fritzy's Broncos, who almost put the Bengals
in there. Sorry about that. Brown's at the Broncos and
the Broncos are giving six. The NBA Cup continues as well,
Lakers Timberwolves heat Celtics. So a lot of things going
on here as we get your phone calls ready as well.
Seaton Poll question for hour one is going to be
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bra what are you going.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
To go with?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Where do we start? So much happened this weekend? Well,
we might as well start on a negative. Who had
the worst weekend?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We have to take Ohio State out of that, don't we, Dewey,
Did anybody have a worse weekend than Ohio State?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Well, Matt Eberfluss had a bad weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but that was we knew that that was going
to be inevitable.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
But even for a guy who we knew was going
to get fired, the way he chose to have his
final act of getting fired was particularly terrible. That was like,
I don't know why we would hire you again to
do this?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Anybody? Well, I wouldn't hire him to do anything that
had to do with math, anything to do with clock
management there, it's weird. I thought the Bears organization was
more embarrassing than Matt Eberflus. Matt Eberflus didn't understand clock management.
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You need to call a timeout. You had a timeout.
You have a rookie quarterback in that situation. Let's regroup.
Regroup here, let's just go over the basics here. You
got two plays. If you want to call a different play, Okay,
we're all on the same page here. Don't let the
clock wind down. But then to let him go out
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and have his press conference knowing you're going to fire him.
He's talking about next week, he's talking about how they're preparing.
I think they play the Niners. What are you doing?
That to me was more egregious then. I mean, he
hasn't been a good coach. I wouldn't have brought him
back this year. He proved that. I think they have talent.
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I think Caleb has played pretty well, But you can't
send him out there and go, hey, am I holding
my press conference?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Go get him yeah, and then all of a sudden,
two hours later you fire him. So the Bears front office,
to me, was more embarrassed or should be more embarrassed
than Matt eberflu sorright. See is that the.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Same Bear's front office that hired Matt Eberflus in the first.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Place and kept him.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, that's really the thing, because now every time I
watch the Chargers do well, I think, see, there's your guy,
Jim Harbaugh. He was right up the road. He was
right up the road, and you could have brought him in.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The fact that they didn't even call him in from
an interview, Oh, former Bear quarterback, you know you got
him there.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
You definitely don't want Caleb Williams stuttering studying under somebody
like Jim Harbaugh who could maybe help ease him into
the league.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, you don't want that.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
He's got some experience doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't want that. That's all right, So Ohio State
Matt Eberflus slash Bears organization.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, i'd say Ryan Day specifically, but okay, yeah, yeah,
I could throw Kirk Cousins in this on that list. Well,
if you throw him in there, he's going to be intercepting. Yeah,
somebody else is catching.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
No, hey, I love Kirk Cousins. I'm sorry he was
terrible yesterday. Yeah, he was terrible. He does, Yes, he
knows that. But that was bad. And I wonder, I
wonder how much longer until we see Michael Pennix Junior
the third here they're too good to be this bad. Wait,
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that was weird. Too good, too good to be this
bad country? So yeah, yeah, yeah, and she was too
good to be this bad? What else do you have seed?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
How about Justin Tucker?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Wow, speaking of people, we like that. I don't want
to see him too poorly. But he's having a horrible year.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I got to put him on the poll question
got to that was tough to watch. You know, you
see somebody who's so good and then all of a
sudden you're like, what happened?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then and then you know just how powerful the
mind is with these things, because these athletes, they all
have great talent. And then you I what separates you,
I think is your your mental approach to things. And
for a kicker, you're always in your head. But when
you're that great, and sometimes it's automatic, then you can
see him actually thinking. He's thinking, and that's the worst
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thing you can do. Sometimes athletes react, they've thought before
they get into the situation, and then they just react.
And you see him just going please make it, please
make it, Please make it, and then all of a sudden,
he's human. Now, I wonder, can you do to your
kicker what we've seen organizations do to their quarterbacks. Anthony
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Richardson sit down for a couple of weeks, Bryce Young
sit down for a couple of weeks, and now you're
seeing those two quarterbacks be able to play well. Anthony
Richardson is a more athletic Jameis Winston like, I don't
know what's happening, but damn he's fun to watch. And
Bryce Young, I'm happy for him. You go toe to
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toe with the Chiefs, you go toe to toe with Tampa,
and you lost both of those games, but those aren't
on you. Can you do that to somebody who is
thirty five years of age as opposed to somebody who's
twenty one, twenty two. Could you sit him down for
a month. I know that seems like, wow, that'd be
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a drastic move, But can you do that to him
just to say get away here, get away from here
a little bit, kind of figure out what's going on,
just do something. But it feels like, and look, he's
the stand up guy. He stood in there and he
was answering the questions yesterday in fact, do we have well,
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here's John Harball talking about Justin Tucker.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
We've been working through it. I mean, you work through
with every single player, every single thing. You fight to
try to help guys to be successful, you know, So
we'll do that. I mean, if you're asking me, ever,
we're going to move out from Justin Tucker, I'm not
really planning on doing that right now. I don't think
that'd be wise. But you know, he'll tell you. He'll
be the first to tell you he's got to make
He needs to make many kicks as he can. And
I have to think if you look at Justin Tucker's history,
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you'd have to say he's capable of doing that. That's
that's something he's going to want to do, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Know we're all going to want to do it. And
I don't know if this is the yips that you
see in golf, or guys get in their head and
they get to the free throw line. I don't know.
But you know somebody who is going to the Hall
of Fame who all of a sudden forgot how to
kick and missing an extra point and We've gotten to
the point now where a fifty yarder is not a
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big deal. Fifty five yards is not a big deal.
We almost expect you to make those. But Justin Tucker
is now a liability for this Ravens team. Who else
are you going to put on the list?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
There?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Seeton, Let's say, well, I think we keep it at
those four. They've had particularly terrible weekends. Okay, Matt Eberflus,
Ryan Day, Kirk Cousins, Justin Tuckerky, those are pretty those
are pretty bad weekends. Yeah, we have a bunch of
other options for pole questions here, most impactful game of
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the weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, let me save those until the second segment there.
You know when you talk about can you bench a
Hall of Famer? Well, Russell Wilson got benched, so I
mean he got kicked to the curb. They paid him
dollars to go away in Denver and he had a
great day yesterday, great day. You go toe to toe
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with Joe Burrow. By the way, Joe Burrow is going
to have maybe one of the more incredible seasons playing
for a losing team. I don't know how you know
they would rank those, but he's not going to make
the playoffs, and he's been great this year. That defense
has been horrible. And when these two teams to get together,
it's always like when the Ravens and the Steelers get
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together and like their crooked scores. It's like, you know,
twenty two to eighteen. Now you're putting up crazy amounts
of points. There eighty two points combined. That's the most
of any of their one hundred and two games that
they played between these two. Stead of a day, stanna day,
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stand outa day.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Stand outa day.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
This is the stat of the day, Out of the day,
brought to ubon Panini America, the official trading cards of
the program. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Going back to Ryan Day and Matt Iberflus, it feels
like a guy like Matt Eberflus will probably get a
defensive coordinator position somewhere on a below average team. Ryan
Day hasn't beaten Michigan since twenty nineteen. It's a long
time if he do you think his job is in
jeopardy or is that media and fan talk.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The importance of that game the game? Yeah, and you've
lost four in a row.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
He does have the playoffs to clean up his mess.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, yeah, this is a fourteen playoff. Yes, then he
would probably no, I can't say he'd probably be. I
think that this would be far more serious. Right now,
you're a twenty three and a half point favor, you're
at home. This is Michigan. Their quarterback is a walk
on cancer survivor. They don't really have weapons. You know
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what they did. They played defense and ran the football.
That's the ingredient and it has been the tried and
true ingredient of this rivalry ever since I can remember.
Can you run the football and can you play defense?
And that's exactly what they did, and they were the
better team. You bring in Chip Kelly, he's your offensive coordinator.
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You spend twenty million dollars on your roster, and that's
what you have to show for it, ten points. He
does have the playoffs to clean up the mess, though,
but it might be. I can't think of a coach
who needs to win the championship more than Ryan Dack.
You know, Kaylin de Boor just got there at Alabama.
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Kirby Smart, he's secure there. You can go down the
list here. Dabo Sweeney still going to be back at Clemson.
I mean, there's no pressure there on him. Like James
frank Inklind at Penn State, there's no pressure on him.
But Ryan Day there's a whole lot of pressure on
We'll talk to Paul Feinbaum a little bit later on.
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We'll ask him is it national title or bust for
Ryan Day? Which is crazy to say with their dominance
in the Big Ten aside from Michigan, their dominance, but
you know, beating really good teams, you know, now you're
going to put that to the test. Could they be
on the road opening weekend of the playoffs? Yes, Tom,
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but that.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Robbery is so big and he's been so bad these
last few years.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Is it even enough to win the national title game?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
To some crazy Buckeys fans like, we won the national title,
but we lost a.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Michigan No, no, no, that fixes everything. Yes, it hurts when
you lose to Michigan, because it used to be if
you lost to Michigan, Michigan, you know that team was
moving on you weren't. Now all of a sudden, here
you go. You got wounded, you got embarrassed, you got humbled,
and now it's the question of regrouping going into the
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playoffs and not getting left behind. But if you win
a national title, yes, that will clean up what happened
over the weekend in Columbus. All right, we'll take a break,
come up with a poll question, phone calls welcome. We'll
recap the NFL weekend and there's a lot to talk about.
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All right, back to the Ohio State with the loss
to Michigan, and here's Ryan Day on what happened.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Obviously, extremely disappointed and angry that we didn't execute well enough.
So you know, I'm not there right now, you know,
just fresh off the game. But as you as you know,
you know this is not easy to accept. And you know, Mobby,
they have to take the ownership. You know, it's you know,
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I'm the one ultimately that you know, makes the final
decisions on things. And you know, felt like we were
a really good place coming into this game. I felt
like we were prepared to play well in this game.
And yeah, I don't know much more to say about it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't think he even have to tell us that
you're taking the responsibility. We know that you should. That's
implied there. But Ohio State has continued to be a
championship contender trying to beat Michigan all these years. But
the three point loss now one in four against the
team up north, and to make matters worse for Ryan Day,
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that may have been the most painful one because Jim
Harball to you know leaves now. Remember Sharon Moore was
the head coach for Michigan last year against Ohio State,
so he gets credit for back to back wins against
Ohio State. You're six and five, you don't have a quarterback.
You've brought in the second richest man in the world,
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Larry Ellison, to help you get a quarterback. That's how
desperate you are. Your cornerback Will Johnson sits out, your
tight end, Colston Loveland sits out. Ohio State's a twenty
three and a half point favorite at home. You spend
twenty million dollars on your roster this year. I'd be
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asking for a rebate a refund there. You spend you
brought in Chip Kelly offensive coordinator. What could go wrong?
And you lose that. I understand. You go to Oregon,
you face Oregon. It's a close game, all right, Michigan
can't be further down than what they've been this year.
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They haven't been really competitive sometimes and then they go
to a see that's where when you say throw out
the records. This is a throwout the records. And I
was in Ohio for the game and a lot of
Ohio State fans. One of my best friends is a
diehard Michigan fan. He's even saying, I definitely give the
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points to Michigan. And I'm thinking, this is Ohio State
against Michigan. I've been down the road here for decades
with this. The best team doesn't always win. But Michigan
played better than Ohio State in that game. But Ryan
Day has a chance to clean up the spill. And
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you gotta make me get to the national title game,
but also win when you get there. All right, Seaton
Poll question the results that we have so far here, Yeah,
who had the worst weekend?
Speaker 5 (17:40):
That being Thursday through Sunday? Just for clarity, uh, Matt Eberflews,
Ryan Day, Kirk Cousins, Justin Tucker. Early results right now
are Ryan Day. But he's not running away with it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay yet? Okay?
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Yeah, Yeah, when you're having a worse weekend than someone
who is no longer employed, that's telling. Like Maddie eraplace
is at home right now, not in the playoffs with
coach Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
That's wild. Yeah, it just goes back to what It
doesn't make sense to bring somebody back and make them
a lame duck coach when you're going to bring in
a quarterback instead of starting fresh and getting a coach
who's going to be there to grow with him.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
See, if well we might fire him, let's give it
a little more time than just fire him.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What are you What are you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Then?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
If you're gonna all of a sudden, if you're thinking
we might fire this dude, and what somehow he's going
to completely turn that around into becoming the person that
you really want.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
If you're already thinking about it, then you're already doing it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's like Mike McCarthy, there's no job security there.
And if my employer was my boss was a lame duck,
you know, like, hey, we don't know if we're going
to bring back your boss. You kind of looking at
them differently. If it's a head coach, you certainly do
head coach and GM and I think that's the situation
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is it's not that you lose respect, you just don't
look at them the same way. You look at them
as vulnerable, tenuous, and that doesn't exude the confidence that
you want. Wait, does management really believe in this guy.
I'm gonna believe in this guy. My rookie quarterback's gonna
believe in this guy. The Bears should have been on
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the cusp and I know they play in the most
competitive division. The Bears should have been on the cusp
of being a playoff team. I truly believe that, and
I think Caleb Williams is going to be that franchise quarterback.
In fact, you can look at all of these quarterbacks.
I mean, Drake May, he's good. That's a bad team.
They may, I would say, New England and Carolina may
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compete for the least talented rosters. But Rice Young played well,
Drake May played well, Jayden Daniels came back and played
really well. Bo Nick's on display tonight. So I don't
know what JJ McCarthy's.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Going to be like.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
But you've seen these quarterbacks play pretty well and well enough,
Bo Nicks and the Broncos are a playoff team. Jayden
Daniels and the Commanders might be a playoff team. Chicago
should have been a playoff team or at least been
right there competing. And look, I know you got the
Packers and you got the Vikings and the lines, but man,
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just some small coaching decisions. If you realize one hundred
and six games have been decided by seven points or less,
that comes down to coaching and quarterback play. Aaron Rodgers,
I believe, has had five games where he's had the
ball and a chance to win and he whiffed. Ohver
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five coaching quarterback play. Look at the Chiefs, look at
those close games and what happens? They win? Somehow they win.
Now you can say, oh, man, that's luck. Oh they're
so fortunate. Oh everything goes their way. No, No, I
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don't think it's a coincidence that they win those games.
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes find a way to win.
These other teams they find a way to lose.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
YEH feels like Kevin O'Connell doesn't get it talked about enough.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You're right for the job that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
He's done in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, He's had some tricky quarterback a couple of tricky
quarterback situations to navigate, and he's done pretty well. And
I mean, I know he's only been there three years,
but two of those three years they've been really good.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
He is a great coach, offensive minded coach. He's helped
Sam Darnold out. It just feels like we haven't bought
into Sam Darnold. And that's why we haven't bought into
the Vikings. Now they squeak by to get that win.
But once again, if your team you don't get style
points to the NFL, they don't go, wait, how many
did you win by? It's just did you win? That's
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all that matters here, Paul and I will lead this
off best and worst of the weekend. Hi, Paul, Hey, damn.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Best of the weekend, Iowa State, your Cyclone's first ten
win season in program history, going back to the Big
twelve championship. What a great weekend for the Cyclones. Worst
of the weekend, we all saw the evidence that Ryan
Day is not a leader of men. He's standing shell
shocked thousand yards stare with his team captain crying right
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in front of him, yelling about the Michigan flag, and
he says, what happened? Something's got to change?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, and I was. I give Fox credit that they
had the camera on him and you could see where
there's chaos out there. His players are fighting. Now they're
trying to plant a flag. By the way, I don't
think you can plant a flag on AstroTurf, but hey,
I know that they like the symbolism that, hey, we're
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we own this place. We're going to put a flag there.
Ryan Day can't go what happened and almost be like, wait,
what's going on here? Unless he was so shell shocked
that they lost that game? And I don't know what's
happened here with the plant the flag thing? Do we
blame Baker Mayfield? It feels like he's getting asked about
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it because when he was at Oklahoma and he did
this in Columbus, so he's sort of the godfather of
planting the flag there. He's Football's Ewo Jima, like, what
are we doing here? Take the flag and stick it
in the well? Wait a minute, it doesn't go in,
you know what we mean? Pepper Spring, really you couldn't
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get your team off the field How about coaches go
out there, get your team off the field. Do you
tell your team, hey, don't plant the flag. We're better
than that. You have control and and look, I know
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you can look at this a variety of ways and go, oh,
you know, your guys are poor losers. You're a poor winner.
You won, You don't you don't need to plant a flag.
You planted the seed that they can't beat you. That's
a that's a line, thank you, thank you, But that's
I don't I don't understand. You know, Florida doing it.
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You're beat You beat Florida State. Good god. If you didn't,
you should be planted six feet under, like, what are
we doing? Hey, we gotta plant the flag. We gotta
show that we both sides should have been embarrassed for
how that played out. Get your team off the field. Yeah, pony, it.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
Should have been doctor pepper spray to go with their I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Going to give you a blue, thank you. I'm gonna
give you a blue blue.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
It did feel like an anomaly or a rush on
flag planting this weekend. Was it just a coincidence or
do you think it's like once somebody sees it, it
catches on.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Well, I think there's part of that. But if you
see one of your players holding the flag, then you
go up there, have somebody go up and say we're
not doing that. You want to you want to take
the flag around the stadium, do that. But go back
to when somebody tried to do something on the logo
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with the Cowboys and Tara Owens ran over. It was
that George Tige Okay, like, I understand that you can
beat us and disrespect us in that way that you
beat us, embarrassed us, whatever, But the flag, what are
we doing? And then all of a sudden fights break out,
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pepper spray, that's you got to have some decorum. Win
with class, lose with class. And either team did that,
and that's a shame because really it should be about
what Michigan accomplished. They pulled off one of the bigger
surprises this season. Buddha in San Francisco, Hi Buddha.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Happy Monday, DP, welcome back boys. Oh hey, what's up, Pritty?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
What's coming Dan?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I think one of the strangest parts of the long
weekend was clock management on a whole like with like
several NFL teams. I mean, I mean I had to
take to bring this up, but specifically of Paul's bearers.
You guys are talking about like that was just brutal
to watch that game end like that. But let's get
down to the nitty gritty here, Dan, Worst of the Weekend,
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my niners and our fall from grace. I mean, last
time I was on the show, Dan, I admitted I
was out out on my niners. And then seeing the
Christian mcaff break situation last night, you see what I
did there, Pritty, You see that pretty much puts us
down into some like deep Dallas cowboy vibes. Shout out
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to Shane Irving and best of the Weekend DP. Watching
the Michigan tac of twenty three point dogs go into
the shoe and winnessing the slow death of all the
hope and hype that was Ohio State up until then.
And I don't know why, Dan, but seeing Ryan day
Lews puts whiskey in my smile. To your point, like
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he needs to pick up the white courtesy phone because
you're about to miss your flight right out of Columbus.
I mean that that all was no good, but so good.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Thank you, Buddha, Thank you. Age seven to seven three
DP Show gus in La. I guess what's on your
mind today.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope you're and the boys had
a great holiday weekend. Oh man, Hey Pauly, congratulations, Hope
your bears don't screw up the next head coaching job
and ruin the career. Caleb Williams, I had faith and
you guys not ruining the number one pick. So let's
get into this best and the two best of the weekend,
and then the worse. My Steelers surviving the shootout in
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Cincinnati was great to see them getting back on track
after the embarrassed in Boston Cleveland. Speaking of embarrassing my
USC Trojans, the embarrassment is over, the season's over. This
train wreck Hollywood bomb is over. Lincoln Riley, you have
to win the title next year to keep your job.
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Don't care what anybody else does. It's not been good
or not good in the words of Buddha. And then
the worst of the weekend. You know you just briefly
spoke about it. It was ugly to see the ending
of multiple game this weekend. In Arizona. You had u
of a fighting because ASU runs out and plants their
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pitch fork after ASU smacks them up. You've got North
Carolina state, North Carolina you got but call me old,
old school whatever. You want to keep them from doing that,
you beat them during the game. It's like the kid
from Michigan said, you have sixty minutes to fight. You
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have sixty minutes to beat us, and yet you want
to fight after the game. You want to throw punches
after the game. Be like the kid from Notre Dame
and punch the kid from USC during the game.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Thank you, Gus Well, you had Michigan's running back who said,
at the end of the day, some people got to
learn how to lose. You can't be fighting in stuff
just because you lost the game. We had sixty minutes,
We had four quarters to do all that fighting. Now
people want to talk and fight. That's wrong, classless in
my opinion, and people got to do better. That's Mullings
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who had a wonderful game. Okay, where do you draw
the line on what the victorious team can do in
your building? That's why I'd like to know with all
these people saying, oh, hey, you should have taken care
of business during the game. Okay, what are you allowed
to do?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Then?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You one? So, what plan a flag, have a picnic?
Can you tailgate?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
What are you allowed to do? I mean, hey, come on,
you guys didn't handle your business, Okay, I should be
able to do whatever I want to do. According to
people saying you got to know how to lose? Is
it embarrassing with Ohio State? Yes, the way they played,
But Michigan instigated this trying to plant the flag. I
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know it's symbolic and it you know, is it at
the end of the day like horns down? Like horns
down is silly? Like, oh my god, they did horns.
I'm watching A and M against Texas and they're doing it.
I'm like, uh oh, I don't care about that. This
involves people getting hurt or potentially getting hurt pepper spray police.
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That's not college football. Take a break. Play the Day next.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
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There's no safe like simply Safe. Those teams combined for
eighty points and Syracuse rally it was twenty one to
nothing and Marvin picks Syracuse to win out right now.
I was going to send him a text and I go, nope, no, no, nope,
not going to do that, Not going to do that.
But they end a six game losing streak to Miami,
and Miami is still kind of hanging in there with
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the with the playoffs. All right, we'll get to more
phone calls coming up. I know I'm the old man.
Get off my lawn with planning a flag. Yeah, sorry,
I'll stay that way. Let me go around the room
see where everybody stands on flag planting. When you win
a game against your your rival, Marvin, where do you
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stand on that one? That's enough? What do you expect
the losing team to do?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Just watch you play at the flag?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, Seatan, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
It feels like these moments are less genuine and more
created for social media. So that's why I'm sort of
out on it. I do like celebrating a big win.
I do like all of those things, but it feels
a little more manufactured and less genuine than say like
t O did that because he was emotional, or Baker
Mayfield did it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
It was kind of annoyed and Baker Mayfield did it honestly,
but it feels more manufactured now, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
I'm with Seating on this one. I'm anti flag planting
because it's getting too often. Also, I think the conferences
are gonna outlaw and find you for it immediately. That said,
if you get planted upon, you must eat it. It's
a must eat situation. You can't start a brawl brawls
where you're gonna lose a player for a game or
lose him to injury. So it's a must eat situation.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Todd unnecessary.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Don't like it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You said earlier, be a good winner. He won the game.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You don't need to do that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I think. Kira in Detroit joining us, Good morning.
Speaker 12 (34:09):
Kiera, Good morning Dan. I had to call in. I
watched this show only because my husband loves your show.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
But when you.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
Start ragging on the Wolverines and talking about what happened
with that situation, I think you need to talk to
fans and players about how they're treated in Columbus Ohio. First,
they spit on players, they call players outside of their names,
they do things to fans. They were doing things leading
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up to the game with their marching band, showing an
animal pooping on top of my blue and Maison Blue.
Michigan planting the flag does not mean that you get
to go and be violent, and it's not fair. They're
a backstory behind all of this. So I would say
talk to some players about what it's like when they
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go to play in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But it doesn't happen anyplace else. If you know the
Ohio State players go to Michigan, there's not things that
are said or done there. You're making any huh.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
We don't do that to rival teams.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, I only saw that there was somebody spitting on
a player, or at least they had a picture of
somebody doing that. That's wrong. But still when with class
like you own them, you don't have to plan a flag.
I mean, they're both wrong, and I'm sure that there
were things said. It is the rivalry in college football,
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one of the rivalry still left in sports. I'm not
exonerating any of these fans who say stupid things or
do stupid things. But you're a football team, and if
the opposition did that to you, well that's different. But
you beat them, it's okay. You won. You want to
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parade around the field with your flag, great, but understand,
Ohio State got embarrassed and now you're gonna do that,
and now you're gonna do that. On the logo, it's
they're not gonna let that happen. Ryan Day even said
that we're not gonna let that happen. You shouldn't be
planning a flag. First of all, you can't, it's astro turf.
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But second of all, God, you won. I loved it
when Sharon Moore is waving at the Ohio State fans.
I loved it. It was great. It could have just
been that walk around and just wave both teams. Both
schools got fined one hundred thousand dollars pepper spray. So
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Michigan instigated that they take the blame for that. The
other stuff. You want to blame it on, Ohio State fans,
go ahead. I couldn't care less. I'm not sitting here
defending anybody other than calling out this practice of planting
the flag. You're going to bring about problems. What happens
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if somebody has their helmet off and somebody takes a
swing at them. We probably almost had that.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Then.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
How do you feel about planting a flag when you
won one of the biggest upsets in the history of
this rivalry. That's where you humble them, not trying to
plant a flag at midfield?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Can you dance in.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
A circle around me? Oh? Like the horror They're not.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
That.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
They're not gonna planning a flag holding each other's hands.
They're not gonna let you do that. Time the quick dance.
Maybe they put Sharon More on a chair and they
would probably play the Michigan fight song.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
If you can mix the horror with Michigan fight, so on,
that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, they great to thank you love the chair idea, Yeah,
thank you. Yeah, Trent and Virginia, Trent, Hey.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
DP got my best and worst. I'll start with the worst.
It's got to be whatever iber Flus is thinking. Knowing
that he was so bad, he moved the Bears, who
were proud to have never fired a coach mid season
in one hundred plus years, to fire a coach mid season,
which brings me to my best as a Bears fan.
I'm rooting for them to win again. I was at
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the point where I knew every loss was closer to
ibra Flus being gone, but a win would be the
Bears would be dumb enough to, oh, he's improved, we
might want to keep him. But now I can root
for them to win and focus more on Caleb Williams
than the coaching fiasco.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yep, And now you're open for business here. Who would
want to come into that situation? I think it's the
best opening right now and will be the best opening.
I don't know what happens in Jacksonville or Dallas. Do
I feel like we had somebody on Albert Breer. I
think he said maybe seven openings. Here are the Giants
(39:15):
going to be open, and they're going to have one
of the top three draft picks. Here is Dallas open,
Jacksonville open, Chicago's open. Yes time, I think we're.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Actually said seven to ten, because I remember your reaction
was like, WHOA.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, I can't see that you're going to have a
third of the coaching positions open. That's a lot. That's
a lot. The Saints there's a job that's open as well.
So I don't know, maybe you have six or seven.
It feels like that. One hour of the books. Two
more to go. We'll talk to Paul Feinbaum of the
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mother Ship. He'll join us a little bit later on
in herm Edwards, former coach, college and pro coach, get
his thoughts on what we saw over the weekend, certainly
with the Ohio State and his former team Arizona State.
I watched a lot of that game, Arizona State. They
are really good Arizona. Not so much. Brown's Broncos. Tonight
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the Broncos Let's ride. They are favored by six. Todd
with his pronouns, is it we or they? We've got to.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Get tated by tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
We've got to get tated.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh, here we go. More phone calls on this Monday,
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the bills roll the forty nine ers and your MVP
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been that way for a couple of weeks. Christian McCaffrey
out may be done for the year year. The Eagles
over the Ravens. They are the second best team in football,
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and I am including the Bills in that. It's the
Detroit Lions, the Eagles, then the Bills in my opinion,
and don't count out the Steelers. The Steelers have a
two game lead in the AFC North and they own
the tiebreaker against the Ravens. So the Steelers they outlast
the Bengals. The Bears need a new head coach. They
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needed a new head coach when they had a head coach.
The Vikings over the Cardinals, Seatons, Chargers over the Falcons,
and Trevor Lawrence out with a chief shot, and the
question is will he play again this season with college football?
Obviously Ohio State losing to Michigan, Georgia survives, and then
you've got the rest of the situation here that they're
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going to try to put together. Put it in a blender,
and then tomorrow night we'll figure out where things are stand.
South Carolina might be as good as anybody right now
in the country. Syracuse drops Miami. Penn State might be
the second ranked team. And I didn't say second best.
I said the second ranked team in the country. When
the rankings come out. We got football coming up tonight,
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the Browns at Fritzy's Broncos, who almost put the Bengals
in there. Sorry about that. Brown's at the Broncos and
the Broncos are giving six. The NBA Cup continues as well,
Lakers Timberwolves heat Celtics. So a lot of things going
on here as we get your phone calls ready as well.
Seaton Poll question for hour one is going to be
(02:37):
bra what are you going.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
To go with?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Where do we start? So much happened this weekend? Well,
we might as well start on a negative. Who had
the worst weekend?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We have to take Ohio State out of that, don't we, Dewey,
Did anybody have a worse weekend than Ohio State?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Well, Matt Eberfluss had a bad weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but that was we knew that that was going
to be inevitable.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
But even for a guy who we knew was going
to get fired, the way he chose to have his
final act of getting fired was particularly terrible. That was like,
I don't know why we would hire you again to
do this?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Anybody? Well, I wouldn't hire him to do anything that
had to do with math, anything to do with clock
management there, it's weird. I thought the Bears organization was
more embarrassing than Matt Eberflus. Matt Eberflus didn't understand clock management.
(03:30):
You need to call a timeout. You had a timeout.
You have a rookie quarterback in that situation. Let's regroup.
Regroup here, let's just go over the basics here. You
got two plays. If you want to call a different play, Okay,
we're all on the same page here. Don't let the
clock wind down. But then to let him go out
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and have his press conference knowing you're going to fire him.
He's talking about next week, he's talking about how they're preparing.
I think they play the Niners. What are you doing?
That to me was more egregious then. I mean, he
hasn't been a good coach. I wouldn't have brought him
back this year. He proved that. I think they have talent.
(04:13):
I think Caleb has played pretty well, But you can't
send him out there and go, hey, am I holding
my press conference?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Go get him yeah, and then all of a sudden,
two hours later you fire him. So the Bears front office,
to me, was more embarrassed or should be more embarrassed
than Matt eberflu sorright. See is that the.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Same Bear's front office that hired Matt Eberflus in the first.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Place and kept him.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, that's really the thing, because now every time I
watch the Chargers do well, I think, see, there's your guy,
Jim Harbaugh. He was right up the road. He was
right up the road, and you could have brought him in.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
The fact that they didn't even call him in from
an interview, Oh, former Bear quarterback, you know you got
him there.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
You definitely don't want Caleb Williams stuttering studying under somebody
like Jim Harbaugh who could maybe help ease him into
the league.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, you don't want that.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
He's got some experience doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I don't want that. That's all right, So Ohio State
Matt Eberflus slash Bears organization.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, i'd say Ryan Day specifically, but okay, yeah, yeah,
I could throw Kirk Cousins in this on that list. Well,
if you throw him in there, he's going to be intercepting. Yeah,
somebody else is catching.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
No, hey, I love Kirk Cousins. I'm sorry he was
terrible yesterday. Yeah, he was terrible. He does, Yes, he
knows that. But that was bad. And I wonder, I
wonder how much longer until we see Michael Pennix Junior
the third here they're too good to be this bad. Wait,
(05:49):
that was weird. Too good, too good to be this
bad country? So yeah, yeah, yeah, and she was too
good to be this bad? What else do you have seed?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
How about Justin Tucker?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Wow, speaking of people, we like that. I don't want
to see him too poorly. But he's having a horrible year.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I got to put him on the poll question
got to that was tough to watch. You know, you
see somebody who's so good and then all of a
sudden you're like, what happened?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And then and then you know just how powerful the
mind is with these things, because these athletes, they all
have great talent. And then you I what separates you,
I think is your your mental approach to things. And
for a kicker, you're always in your head. But when
you're that great, and sometimes it's automatic, then you can
see him actually thinking. He's thinking, and that's the worst
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thing you can do. Sometimes athletes react, they've thought before
they get into the situation, and then they just react.
And you see him just going please make it, please
make it, Please make it, and then all of a sudden,
he's human. Now, I wonder, can you do to your
kicker what we've seen organizations do to their quarterbacks. Anthony
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Richardson sit down for a couple of weeks, Bryce Young
sit down for a couple of weeks, and now you're
seeing those two quarterbacks be able to play well. Anthony
Richardson is a more athletic Jameis Winston like, I don't
know what's happening, but damn he's fun to watch. And
Bryce Young, I'm happy for him. You go toe to
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toe with the Chiefs, you go toe to toe with Tampa,
and you lost both of those games, but those aren't
on you. Can you do that to somebody who is
thirty five years of age as opposed to somebody who's
twenty one, twenty two. Could you sit him down for
a month. I know that seems like, wow, that'd be
(07:59):
a drastic move, But can you do that to him
just to say get away here, get away from here
a little bit, kind of figure out what's going on,
just do something. But it feels like, and look, he's
the stand up guy. He stood in there and he
was answering the questions yesterday in fact, do we have well,
(08:21):
here's John Harball talking about Justin Tucker.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
We've been working through it. I mean, you work through
with every single player, every single thing. You fight to
try to help guys to be successful, you know, So
we'll do that. I mean, if you're asking me, ever,
we're going to move out from Justin Tucker, I'm not
really planning on doing that right now. I don't think
that'd be wise. But you know, he'll tell you. He'll
be the first to tell you he's got to make
He needs to make many kicks as he can. And
I have to think if you look at Justin Tucker's history,
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you'd have to say he's capable of doing that. That's
that's something he's going to want to do, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Know we're all going to want to do it. And
I don't know if this is the yips that you
see in golf, or guys get in their head and
they get to the free throw line. I don't know.
But you know somebody who is going to the Hall
of Fame who all of a sudden forgot how to
kick and missing an extra point and We've gotten to
the point now where a fifty yarder is not a
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big deal. Fifty five yards is not a big deal.
We almost expect you to make those. But Justin Tucker
is now a liability for this Ravens team. Who else
are you going to put on the list?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
There?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Seeton, Let's say, well, I think we keep it at
those four. They've had particularly terrible weekends. Okay, Matt Eberflus,
Ryan Day, Kirk Cousins, Justin Tuckerky, those are pretty those
are pretty bad weekends. Yeah, we have a bunch of
other options for pole questions here, most impactful game of
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the weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Okay, let me save those until the second segment there.
You know when you talk about can you bench a
Hall of Famer? Well, Russell Wilson got benched, so I
mean he got kicked to the curb. They paid him
dollars to go away in Denver and he had a
great day yesterday, great day. You go toe to toe
(10:07):
with Joe Burrow. By the way, Joe Burrow is going
to have maybe one of the more incredible seasons playing
for a losing team. I don't know how you know
they would rank those, but he's not going to make
the playoffs, and he's been great this year. That defense
has been horrible. And when these two teams to get together,
it's always like when the Ravens and the Steelers get
(10:29):
together and like their crooked scores. It's like, you know,
twenty two to eighteen. Now you're putting up crazy amounts
of points. There eighty two points combined. That's the most
of any of their one hundred and two games that
they played between these two. Stead of a day, stanna day,
(10:54):
stand outa day.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Stand outa day.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
This is the stat of the day, Out of the day,
brought to ubon Panini America, the official trading cards of
the program. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Going back to Ryan Day and Matt Iberflus, it feels
like a guy like Matt Eberflus will probably get a
defensive coordinator position somewhere on a below average team. Ryan
Day hasn't beaten Michigan since twenty nineteen. It's a long
time if he do you think his job is in
jeopardy or is that media and fan talk.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The importance of that game the game? Yeah, and you've
lost four in a row.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
He does have the playoffs to clean up his mess.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, yeah, this is a fourteen playoff. Yes, then he
would probably no, I can't say he'd probably be. I
think that this would be far more serious. Right now,
you're a twenty three and a half point favor, you're
at home. This is Michigan. Their quarterback is a walk
on cancer survivor. They don't really have weapons. You know
(12:00):
what they did. They played defense and ran the football.
That's the ingredient and it has been the tried and
true ingredient of this rivalry ever since I can remember.
Can you run the football and can you play defense?
And that's exactly what they did, and they were the
better team. You bring in Chip Kelly, he's your offensive coordinator.
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You spend twenty million dollars on your roster, and that's
what you have to show for it, ten points. He
does have the playoffs to clean up the mess, though,
but it might be. I can't think of a coach
who needs to win the championship more than Ryan Dack.
You know, Kaylin de Boor just got there at Alabama.
(12:47):
Kirby Smart, he's secure there. You can go down the
list here. Dabo Sweeney still going to be back at Clemson.
I mean, there's no pressure there on him. Like James
frank Inklind at Penn State, there's no pressure on him.
But Ryan Day there's a whole lot of pressure on
We'll talk to Paul Feinbaum a little bit later on.
(13:09):
We'll ask him is it national title or bust for
Ryan Day? Which is crazy to say with their dominance
in the Big Ten aside from Michigan, their dominance, but
you know, beating really good teams, you know, now you're
going to put that to the test. Could they be
on the road opening weekend of the playoffs? Yes, Tom,
(13:29):
but that.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Robbery is so big and he's been so bad these
last few years.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Is it even enough to win the national title game?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
To some crazy Buckeys fans like, we won the national title,
but we lost a.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Michigan No, no, no, that fixes everything. Yes, it hurts when
you lose to Michigan, because it used to be if
you lost to Michigan, Michigan, you know that team was
moving on you weren't. Now all of a sudden, here
you go. You got wounded, you got embarrassed, you got humbled,
and now it's the question of regrouping going into the
(13:59):
playoffs and not getting left behind. But if you win
a national title, yes, that will clean up what happened
over the weekend in Columbus. All right, we'll take a break,
come up with a poll question, phone calls welcome. We'll
recap the NFL weekend and there's a lot to talk about.
Eight seven seven three DP show. We're back after this
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Speaker 2 (14:34):
All right, back to the Ohio State with the loss
to Michigan, and here's Ryan Day on what happened.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
Obviously, extremely disappointed and angry that we didn't execute well enough.
So you know, I'm not there right now, you know,
just fresh off the game. But as you as you know,
you know this is not easy to accept. And you know, Mobby,
they have to take the ownership. You know, it's you know,
(15:03):
I'm the one ultimately that you know, makes the final
decisions on things. And you know, felt like we were
a really good place coming into this game. I felt
like we were prepared to play well in this game.
And yeah, I don't know much more to say about it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't think he even have to tell us that
you're taking the responsibility. We know that you should. That's
implied there. But Ohio State has continued to be a
championship contender trying to beat Michigan all these years. But
the three point loss now one in four against the
team up north, and to make matters worse for Ryan Day,
(15:38):
that may have been the most painful one because Jim
Harball to you know leaves now. Remember Sharon Moore was
the head coach for Michigan last year against Ohio State,
so he gets credit for back to back wins against
Ohio State. You're six and five, you don't have a quarterback.
You've brought in the second richest man in the world,
(15:59):
Larry Ellison, to help you get a quarterback. That's how
desperate you are. Your cornerback Will Johnson sits out, your
tight end, Colston Loveland sits out. Ohio State's a twenty
three and a half point favorite at home. You spend
twenty million dollars on your roster this year. I'd be
(16:19):
asking for a rebate a refund there. You spend you
brought in Chip Kelly offensive coordinator. What could go wrong?
And you lose that. I understand. You go to Oregon,
you face Oregon. It's a close game, all right, Michigan
can't be further down than what they've been this year.
(16:43):
They haven't been really competitive sometimes and then they go
to a see that's where when you say throw out
the records. This is a throwout the records. And I
was in Ohio for the game and a lot of
Ohio State fans. One of my best friends is a
diehard Michigan fan. He's even saying, I definitely give the
(17:05):
points to Michigan. And I'm thinking, this is Ohio State
against Michigan. I've been down the road here for decades
with this. The best team doesn't always win. But Michigan
played better than Ohio State in that game. But Ryan
Day has a chance to clean up the spill. And
(17:27):
you gotta make me get to the national title game,
but also win when you get there. All right, Seaton
Poll question the results that we have so far here, Yeah,
who had the worst weekend?
Speaker 5 (17:40):
That being Thursday through Sunday? Just for clarity, uh, Matt Eberflews,
Ryan Day, Kirk Cousins, Justin Tucker. Early results right now
are Ryan Day. But he's not running away with it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Okay yet? Okay?
Speaker 9 (17:52):
Yeah, Yeah, when you're having a worse weekend than someone
who is no longer employed, that's telling. Like Maddie eraplace
is at home right now, not in the playoffs with
coach Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
That's wild. Yeah, it just goes back to what It
doesn't make sense to bring somebody back and make them
a lame duck coach when you're going to bring in
a quarterback instead of starting fresh and getting a coach
who's going to be there to grow with him.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
See, if well we might fire him, let's give it
a little more time than just fire him.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What are you What are you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Then?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
If you're gonna all of a sudden, if you're thinking
we might fire this dude, and what somehow he's going
to completely turn that around into becoming the person that
you really want.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
If you're already thinking about it, then you're already doing it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's like Mike McCarthy, there's no job security there.
And if my employer was my boss was a lame duck,
you know, like, hey, we don't know if we're going
to bring back your boss. You kind of looking at
them differently. If it's a head coach, you certainly do
head coach and GM and I think that's the situation
(19:03):
is it's not that you lose respect, you just don't
look at them the same way. You look at them
as vulnerable, tenuous, and that doesn't exude the confidence that
you want. Wait, does management really believe in this guy.
I'm gonna believe in this guy. My rookie quarterback's gonna
believe in this guy. The Bears should have been on
(19:25):
the cusp and I know they play in the most
competitive division. The Bears should have been on the cusp
of being a playoff team. I truly believe that, and
I think Caleb Williams is going to be that franchise quarterback.
In fact, you can look at all of these quarterbacks.
I mean, Drake May, he's good. That's a bad team.
They may, I would say, New England and Carolina may
(19:48):
compete for the least talented rosters. But Rice Young played well,
Drake May played well, Jayden Daniels came back and played
really well. Bo Nick's on display tonight. So I don't
know what JJ McCarthy's.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Going to be like.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
But you've seen these quarterbacks play pretty well and well enough,
Bo Nicks and the Broncos are a playoff team. Jayden
Daniels and the Commanders might be a playoff team. Chicago
should have been a playoff team or at least been
right there competing. And look, I know you got the
Packers and you got the Vikings and the lines, but man,
(20:25):
just some small coaching decisions. If you realize one hundred
and six games have been decided by seven points or less,
that comes down to coaching and quarterback play. Aaron Rodgers,
I believe, has had five games where he's had the
ball and a chance to win and he whiffed. Ohver
(20:50):
five coaching quarterback play. Look at the Chiefs, look at
those close games and what happens? They win? Somehow they win.
Now you can say, oh, man, that's luck. Oh they're
so fortunate. Oh everything goes their way. No, No, I
(21:10):
don't think it's a coincidence that they win those games.
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes find a way to win.
These other teams they find a way to lose.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
YEH feels like Kevin O'Connell doesn't get it talked about enough.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You're right for the job that.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
He's done in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, He's had some tricky quarterback a couple of tricky
quarterback situations to navigate, and he's done pretty well. And
I mean, I know he's only been there three years,
but two of those three years they've been really good.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
He is a great coach, offensive minded coach. He's helped
Sam Darnold out. It just feels like we haven't bought
into Sam Darnold. And that's why we haven't bought into
the Vikings. Now they squeak by to get that win.
But once again, if your team you don't get style
points to the NFL, they don't go, wait, how many
did you win by? It's just did you win? That's
(22:02):
all that matters here, Paul and I will lead this
off best and worst of the weekend. Hi, Paul, Hey, damn.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Best of the weekend, Iowa State, your Cyclone's first ten
win season in program history, going back to the Big
twelve championship. What a great weekend for the Cyclones. Worst
of the weekend, we all saw the evidence that Ryan
Day is not a leader of men. He's standing shell
shocked thousand yards stare with his team captain crying right
(22:32):
in front of him, yelling about the Michigan flag, and
he says, what happened? Something's got to change?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, and I was. I give Fox credit that they
had the camera on him and you could see where
there's chaos out there. His players are fighting. Now they're
trying to plant a flag. By the way, I don't
think you can plant a flag on AstroTurf, but hey,
I know that they like the symbolism that, hey, we're
(23:00):
we own this place. We're going to put a flag there.
Ryan Day can't go what happened and almost be like, wait,
what's going on here? Unless he was so shell shocked
that they lost that game? And I don't know what's
happened here with the plant the flag thing? Do we
blame Baker Mayfield? It feels like he's getting asked about
(23:21):
it because when he was at Oklahoma and he did
this in Columbus, so he's sort of the godfather of
planting the flag there. He's Football's Ewo Jima, like, what
are we doing here? Take the flag and stick it
in the well? Wait a minute, it doesn't go in,
you know what we mean? Pepper Spring, really you couldn't
(23:43):
get your team off the field How about coaches go
out there, get your team off the field. Do you
tell your team, hey, don't plant the flag. We're better
than that. You have control and and look, I know
(24:03):
you can look at this a variety of ways and go, oh,
you know, your guys are poor losers. You're a poor winner.
You won, You don't you don't need to plant a flag.
You planted the seed that they can't beat you. That's
a that's a line, thank you, thank you, But that's
I don't I don't understand. You know, Florida doing it.
(24:26):
You're beat You beat Florida State. Good god. If you didn't,
you should be planted six feet under, like, what are
we doing? Hey, we gotta plant the flag. We gotta
show that we both sides should have been embarrassed for
how that played out. Get your team off the field. Yeah, pony, it.
Speaker 9 (24:50):
Should have been doctor pepper spray to go with their I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Going to give you a blue, thank you. I'm gonna
give you a blue blue.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
It did feel like an anomaly or a rush on
flag planting this weekend. Was it just a coincidence or
do you think it's like once somebody sees it, it
catches on.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Well, I think there's part of that. But if you
see one of your players holding the flag, then you
go up there, have somebody go up and say we're
not doing that. You want to you want to take
the flag around the stadium, do that. But go back
to when somebody tried to do something on the logo
(25:29):
with the Cowboys and Tara Owens ran over. It was
that George Tige Okay, like, I understand that you can
beat us and disrespect us in that way that you
beat us, embarrassed us, whatever, But the flag, what are
we doing? And then all of a sudden fights break out,
(25:50):
pepper spray, that's you got to have some decorum. Win
with class, lose with class. And either team did that,
and that's a shame because really it should be about
what Michigan accomplished. They pulled off one of the bigger
surprises this season. Buddha in San Francisco, Hi Buddha.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Happy Monday, DP, welcome back boys. Oh hey, what's up, Pritty?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
What's coming Dan?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I think one of the strangest parts of the long
weekend was clock management on a whole like with like
several NFL teams. I mean, I mean I had to
take to bring this up, but specifically of Paul's bearers.
You guys are talking about like that was just brutal
to watch that game end like that. But let's get
down to the nitty gritty here, Dan, Worst of the Weekend,
(26:42):
my niners and our fall from grace. I mean, last
time I was on the show, Dan, I admitted I
was out out on my niners. And then seeing the
Christian mcaff break situation last night, you see what I
did there, Pritty, You see that pretty much puts us
down into some like deep Dallas cowboy vibes. Shout out
(27:03):
to Shane Irving and best of the Weekend DP. Watching
the Michigan tac of twenty three point dogs go into
the shoe and winnessing the slow death of all the
hope and hype that was Ohio State up until then.
And I don't know why, Dan, but seeing Ryan day
Lews puts whiskey in my smile. To your point, like
(27:26):
he needs to pick up the white courtesy phone because
you're about to miss your flight right out of Columbus.
I mean that that all was no good, but so good.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Thank you, Buddha, Thank you. Age seven to seven three
DP Show gus in La. I guess what's on your
mind today.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope you're and the boys had
a great holiday weekend. Oh man, Hey Pauly, congratulations, Hope
your bears don't screw up the next head coaching job
and ruin the career. Caleb Williams, I had faith and
you guys not ruining the number one pick. So let's
get into this best and the two best of the weekend,
and then the worse. My Steelers surviving the shootout in
(28:11):
Cincinnati was great to see them getting back on track
after the embarrassed in Boston Cleveland. Speaking of embarrassing my
USC Trojans, the embarrassment is over, the season's over. This
train wreck Hollywood bomb is over. Lincoln Riley, you have
to win the title next year to keep your job.
(28:32):
Don't care what anybody else does. It's not been good
or not good in the words of Buddha. And then
the worst of the weekend. You know you just briefly
spoke about it. It was ugly to see the ending
of multiple game this weekend. In Arizona. You had u
of a fighting because ASU runs out and plants their
(28:56):
pitch fork after ASU smacks them up. You've got North
Carolina state, North Carolina you got but call me old,
old school whatever. You want to keep them from doing that,
you beat them during the game. It's like the kid
from Michigan said, you have sixty minutes to fight. You
(29:16):
have sixty minutes to beat us, and yet you want
to fight after the game. You want to throw punches
after the game. Be like the kid from Notre Dame
and punch the kid from USC during the game.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Thank you, Gus Well, you had Michigan's running back who said,
at the end of the day, some people got to
learn how to lose. You can't be fighting in stuff
just because you lost the game. We had sixty minutes,
We had four quarters to do all that fighting. Now
people want to talk and fight. That's wrong, classless in
my opinion, and people got to do better. That's Mullings
(29:52):
who had a wonderful game. Okay, where do you draw
the line on what the victorious team can do in
your building? That's why I'd like to know with all
these people saying, oh, hey, you should have taken care
of business during the game. Okay, what are you allowed
to do?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Then?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
You one? So, what plan a flag, have a picnic?
Can you tailgate?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
What are you allowed to do? I mean, hey, come on,
you guys didn't handle your business, Okay, I should be
able to do whatever I want to do. According to
people saying you got to know how to lose? Is
it embarrassing with Ohio State? Yes, the way they played,
But Michigan instigated this trying to plant the flag. I
(30:43):
know it's symbolic and it you know, is it at
the end of the day like horns down? Like horns
down is silly? Like, oh my god, they did horns.
I'm watching A and M against Texas and they're doing it.
I'm like, uh oh, I don't care about that. This
involves people getting hurt or potentially getting hurt pepper spray police.
(31:07):
That's not college football. Take a break. Play the Day next.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp Oh my god,
the Play of the day.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Left my god, it play.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Check the shout.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Step quick fire screen to Ristreppo.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
He plunges us forward lost the pall.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Grant has it at the fifty racing near side.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Just has to be one.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
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Stoop Amn Store, Syracuse slaves for the first time all afternoon.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
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There's no safe like simply Safe. Those teams combined for
eighty points and Syracuse rally it was twenty one to
nothing and Marvin picks Syracuse to win out right now.
I was going to send him a text and I go, nope, no, no, nope,
not going to do that, Not going to do that.
But they end a six game losing streak to Miami,
and Miami is still kind of hanging in there with
(32:38):
the with the playoffs. All right, we'll get to more
phone calls coming up. I know I'm the old man.
Get off my lawn with planning a flag. Yeah, sorry,
I'll stay that way. Let me go around the room
see where everybody stands on flag planting. When you win
a game against your your rival, Marvin, where do you
(32:58):
stand on that one? That's enough? What do you expect
the losing team to do?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Just watch you play at the flag?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, Seatan, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
It feels like these moments are less genuine and more
created for social media. So that's why I'm sort of
out on it. I do like celebrating a big win.
I do like all of those things, but it feels
a little more manufactured and less genuine than say like
t O did that because he was emotional, or Baker
Mayfield did it.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
It was kind of annoyed and Baker Mayfield did it honestly,
but it feels more manufactured now, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
I'm with Seating on this one. I'm anti flag planting
because it's getting too often. Also, I think the conferences
are gonna outlaw and find you for it immediately. That said,
if you get planted upon, you must eat it. It's
a must eat situation. You can't start a brawl brawls
where you're gonna lose a player for a game or
lose him to injury. So it's a must eat situation.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Todd unnecessary.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Don't like it.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You said earlier, be a good winner. He won the game.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You don't need to do that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I think. Kira in Detroit joining us, Good morning.
Speaker 12 (34:09):
Kiera, Good morning Dan. I had to call in. I
watched this show only because my husband loves your show.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
But when you.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
Start ragging on the Wolverines and talking about what happened
with that situation, I think you need to talk to
fans and players about how they're treated in Columbus Ohio. First,
they spit on players, they call players outside of their names,
they do things to fans. They were doing things leading
(34:39):
up to the game with their marching band, showing an
animal pooping on top of my blue and Maison Blue.
Michigan planting the flag does not mean that you get
to go and be violent, and it's not fair. They're
a backstory behind all of this. So I would say
talk to some players about what it's like when they
(35:01):
go to play in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But it doesn't happen anyplace else. If you know the
Ohio State players go to Michigan, there's not things that
are said or done there. You're making any huh.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
We don't do that to rival teams.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, I only saw that there was somebody spitting on
a player, or at least they had a picture of
somebody doing that. That's wrong. But still when with class
like you own them, you don't have to plan a flag.
I mean, they're both wrong, and I'm sure that there
were things said. It is the rivalry in college football,
(35:39):
one of the rivalry still left in sports. I'm not
exonerating any of these fans who say stupid things or
do stupid things. But you're a football team, and if
the opposition did that to you, well that's different. But
you beat them, it's okay. You won. You want to
(36:02):
parade around the field with your flag, great, but understand,
Ohio State got embarrassed and now you're gonna do that,
and now you're gonna do that. On the logo, it's
they're not gonna let that happen. Ryan Day even said
that we're not gonna let that happen. You shouldn't be
planning a flag. First of all, you can't, it's astro turf.
(36:25):
But second of all, God, you won. I loved it
when Sharon Moore is waving at the Ohio State fans.
I loved it. It was great. It could have just
been that walk around and just wave both teams. Both
schools got fined one hundred thousand dollars pepper spray. So
(36:48):
Michigan instigated that they take the blame for that. The
other stuff. You want to blame it on, Ohio State fans,
go ahead. I couldn't care less. I'm not sitting here
defending anybody other than calling out this practice of planting
the flag. You're going to bring about problems. What happens
(37:10):
if somebody has their helmet off and somebody takes a
swing at them. We probably almost had that.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Then.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
How do you feel about planting a flag when you
won one of the biggest upsets in the history of
this rivalry. That's where you humble them, not trying to
plant a flag at midfield?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Can you dance in.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
A circle around me? Oh? Like the horror They're not.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
That.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
They're not gonna planning a flag holding each other's hands.
They're not gonna let you do that. Time the quick dance.
Maybe they put Sharon More on a chair and they
would probably play the Michigan fight song.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
If you can mix the horror with Michigan fight, so on,
that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, they great to thank you love the chair idea, Yeah,
thank you. Yeah, Trent and Virginia, Trent, Hey.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
DP got my best and worst. I'll start with the worst.
It's got to be whatever iber Flus is thinking. Knowing
that he was so bad, he moved the Bears, who
were proud to have never fired a coach mid season
in one hundred plus years, to fire a coach mid season,
which brings me to my best as a Bears fan.
I'm rooting for them to win again. I was at
(38:39):
the point where I knew every loss was closer to
ibra Flus being gone, but a win would be the
Bears would be dumb enough to, oh, he's improved, we
might want to keep him. But now I can root
for them to win and focus more on Caleb Williams
than the coaching fiasco.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yep, And now you're open for business here. Who would
want to come into that situation? I think it's the
best opening right now and will be the best opening.
I don't know what happens in Jacksonville or Dallas. Do
I feel like we had somebody on Albert Breer. I
think he said maybe seven openings. Here are the Giants
(39:15):
going to be open, and they're going to have one
of the top three draft picks. Here is Dallas open,
Jacksonville open, Chicago's open. Yes time, I think we're.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Actually said seven to ten, because I remember your reaction
was like, WHOA.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, I can't see that you're going to have a
third of the coaching positions open. That's a lot. That's
a lot. The Saints there's a job that's open as well.
So I don't know, maybe you have six or seven.
It feels like that. One hour of the books. Two
more to go. We'll talk to Paul Feinbaum of the
(39:51):
mother Ship. He'll join us a little bit later on
in herm Edwards, former coach, college and pro coach, get
his thoughts on what we saw over the weekend, certainly
with the Ohio State and his former team Arizona State.
I watched a lot of that game, Arizona State. They
are really good Arizona. Not so much. Brown's Broncos. Tonight
(40:13):
the Broncos Let's ride. They are favored by six. Todd
with his pronouns, is it we or they? We've got to.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Get tated by tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
We've got to get tated.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Oh, here we go. More phone calls on this Monday,
back after this
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