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October 11, 2025 41 mins

Dan weighs in on the MLB Postseason and Aaron Judge’s heroic performance allowing the Yankees to stave off elimination then get eliminated by the Blue Jays in the ALDS, and Yankees Manager Aaron Boone seems safe with his job, but should he be? Both North Carolina and their head coach Bill Belichick put out dual statements committing to one another, but Dan thinks this is a mess that would never have happened in New England. The New York Giants beat the Eagles on Thursday night, and Dan’s impressed with rookie quarterback Jaxson Dart and rookie running back Cam Skattebo. It might be enough for HC Brian Daboll to save his job.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The Yankees on the brink. They were down five, they
come back and win it, and Aaron Judge goes three
for four, game tying home run and four runs batted in.
So far, he's seven for eleven in the series. The
home run that he hit, I won't say it's impossible,
but it's nearly impossible to turn on that pitch that
is so inside, it's out of the strike zone.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And I like that.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You had people who were second guessing, like why would
you pitch to him? They didn't. He was down oh two.
They threw a great pitch inside that most mortals will
strike out on, and he turned on a ninety nine
mile an hour fastball that was the only other person
I've ever seen that.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Was Barry Bonds.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Where it's inside, so inside, but he turned on it
and kept it fair and hit a home run.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Magical, Magical, it's going to be so.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I know the votes are already in, but I don't
think there's a wrong choice in MVP. And cal Raley
hit a home run last night, his sixty first on
the year, and I just I think this is going
to be one of those really really close votes and
it'd be a shame. I don't know if cal Raley

(01:18):
ever gets this chance again. Aaron Judge feels like, we'll
get this chance again. But this is one of those
almost like Mike Greenwell, you remember him with the Red
Sox and he lost out I think the Jose Canseco
and then all the steroid stuff came out and Mike
Greenwell was a really good player, but he was never
going to get a chance again. It's a magical season,

(01:38):
a magical season for the team as well. And I
had a baseball analyst who said, how's baseball and baseball
fans going to react if you have the Blue Jays
and the Mariners playing?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
You know that?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Are we going to be like, oh what are we
doing with our small market teams here? And I'm like,
I don't know why we get We always come to
this conclusion like, oh, who's gonna watch?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Like I don't care.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
You know, it's you're getting to see some good baseball.
You're getting to see some big stars. And if it's Seattle,
it's a great story. Toronto is a great story as well.
I know we love the big markets, but Mariners are
up to one on Detroit and uh, you know, the
Yankees down to to one. You got the Dodgers who
might be able to sweep the Phillies coming up later

(02:25):
on tonight, and then the Brewers and the Cubs. Kind
of an oh, by the way series, but the Brewers
favored in that series.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yes, Marvin, that's always that always kind of boggles me
when people talk about the small markets. Isn't it about big,
big time stars. Because you have Cal Rawley on one side,
and if it's the Blue Jays you have George Springer
and Vaguerrero Junior. Isn't that what you want? You want
big stars so people can see them instead of just
relying just on Dodgers and Yankees.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
We don't do that in the NFL. Like green Bay's
the smallest market. If Green Bay goes to the Super Bowl,
nobody's gonna complain. They're just not And I think we
get caught up in who's going to watch. You know,
Baseball struck gold last year with the Yankees and Dodgers,
even though it wasn't a competitive World Series. You had
the big markets, the big teams. But all I want

(03:11):
to see is great, you know, we get to March
madness I don't know, do you really care if Butler
goes to a championship game or George Mason goes to
the Final four. I think if you get good matchups,
that's all we're asking for. And a lot of times
you can even have the big markets like we did
last year and LA won four out of the five games.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, Paulie, But I think the issue is, and I love,
I don't care who's in the World Series, I'm gonna watch.
But when you have a World Series where it's like
the Diamondbacks, it's almost like work for the casual fan.
You have to learn the players, you have to learn
the manager. When you have Yankees versus the Dodgers in
the World Series, you know the stars already and you
know the history of these franchises. It's like going into

(03:53):
a movie where you know the entire cast, as opposed
to like an independent film. It's more work when there's
a team like where you just know a few players.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
But if I go back to Arizona when they had
Shilling and Randy Johnson, Luis Gonzales and Mark Grayce, we
knew that team, We knew those stars. I think sometimes
you'll get a smaller market or a less covered team.
You know Rangers two years ago, and people probably didn't
know much about the Rangers. But I don't get caught

(04:26):
up in, you know, the ratings. The Blue Jays and
Mariners both came into the American League in nineteen seventy
seven as expansion teams, and here they are on the
cusp of moving on to the championship series. All right,
seton pull question today, at least for the first hour.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Let's see you want to start. How about we start
football wise. This one's from Marvin after the Joe Flacco trade,
what should the realistic expectations for the Bengals be Division title,
wild card, AFC Championship game or no playoffs?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, they have two wins, so I would say, you know,
a playoff appearance that you know, Flacco obviously is nowhere
near Joe Burrow, but you still have these offensive weapons
and he will at least be able to take advantage
of them, far more than Jake Browning did. I would
say wild card because I don't know what the Ravens
are going to do. We know what the Browns are

(05:22):
going to do, and the Steelers are going to be
a playoff team. I don't know if they're a great team.
So if I'm a Bengal fan, I have to be
realistic and say, can we get nine wins? Can we
get ten wins? And I'd say yeah, I'd say that's realistic.
By the way, we want to be fair to Dave Simms,
the Yankee play by play voice. He was with us
yesterday and Fritzi, of course, had issues with Dave and

(05:47):
his lack of enthusiasm on a Vlad Guerrero grand slam.
Here is Dave Simms on the Aaron Judge home run
last night.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
There's the pits.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
High flight ball the left field, down the left field,
it is off.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
The fair pole.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Hey, now, hey, now hey, now forever cut.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
This game is tired.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's six sex.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Did you want him to sound like that for vide Guerrero?
That's what the fans want.

Speaker 9 (06:14):
Did he hear it was a huge moment for the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, but you wanted enthusiasm for Vlad Guerrero the visits.

Speaker 9 (06:21):
I would understand if he didn't have quite that much
this enthusiasm for the other team. I could appreciate that
for the Yankee listeners.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Uh, nice call. That was tough to see.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Though it's down the line and that's where Judge isn't
even leaving the batter's box. He's like, well, it's either
a home run or it's foul, so I don't have
to worry about I got to hustle into second base
with a stand up double. But all right, see back
to our regularly scheduled programming.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
The pole question, Yeah, the other pole question is we
haven't had one of these in a while. From paul A,
bathroom can wait most VCW in sports right now or
just in baseball, maybe Judge Otani Raley other.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
So bathroom can wait when they're at the plate.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Yeah, they're at the plate and you really got to
go to the bathroom. And she's like, you know what,
I'm gonna wait until after this at bat.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, Judge definitely, Judge. I don't know if cal Rawly
has entered that picture.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Maybe it's a temporary bathroom can wait for him, but
Aaron Judge definitely, it's just I think just seeing him
at the plate. Somebody that big, and I don't know
who we had on This is years ago and Paulie
was bringing this up that we were talking about tall
guys who have long swings and you know you're not

(07:41):
going to be able to get around on that fastball.
You know, that's big looping swing. And but Aaron Judge
has been so good at being selective and he doesn't
you know, there's pitches that he used to go for.
Now he knows exactly what the strike zone is. And
that is the I mean a credit to him, because, yeah,
as you get older, your swing is going to slow down,

(08:03):
but you you have to be able to somehow compromise
what you're going to do with the plate. And I
thought that you can't help you can't help the pitcher
by widening your strike zone. And that's what I think
he did earlier in his career.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, if you look at Aaron Judge after
the age of thirty, every year his strike cuts are
going down and his walks are going up. His eye
is getting better. His stats after age thirty are better
than his stats before age thirty.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, it's impressive though, when he comes to the plate
and he's played a great series here, this is what
we wanted, This is what you want out of.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Your MVP candidates. What else do we have, Seaton?

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Yeah, we're throwing those two up, right, now as we speak,
the Joe Flacco Floco and uh.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Is it Floco or Flacco Fla.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I think it's Fla.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
I think it's Flacco.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh, I was gonna say it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
You might have been right. Yeah, like flo he says flocko.
He does, It's Joe Flaka Joe Flocko.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
By the way, I think PAULI called this when the
Browns were going to go to Dylan Gabriel and we
wondered what was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think it's more than giving too much credit.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
No, probably too much credit. I just remember talking about it.
We were discussing why didn't the Bengals go after Russ
Wilson when he got benched, and then we said, as
soon as Dylan Gabriel got to start, they should just
ship Joe Flacco across the state.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean it's interesting. You know, I'm sure, I'm
probably sure that he would just drive down to Cincinnati
take you know, three and a half hours or so,
and you know, it's an upgrade going to Cincinnati over Cleveland,
of course, my hometown.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, Paul, Now, if you're the Browns that you lived
in the state, Dan, any chance you're helping out your
cross state rival here or is it no danger?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, no, you are helping them. Shouldn't do that?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, I think it all well, so this is what
the Browns should have done to begin with. If you're
going to have these young quarterbacks, let these quarterbacks have
a chance to prove if they can play or not.
And you know, you got Flacco and maybe he did
help these guys prepare.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Now they've gotten to the point.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I just want to see if they can play, because
I don't want this to be a situation where at
the end of the season the Browns are going to
go into the draft and take a quarterback and these
kids didn't get a chance to really play. And Dylan
Gabriel played pretty well in London. Maybe Shoudoor Sanders gets
a chance to play as well. And by the way,
for everybody who said, oh boy, there's a quarterback rich

(10:36):
draft coming up, I don't know about that. It feels
like every year it's that next year, that quarterback draft.
Oh it's deep. I don't know if a quarterback is
going number one overall this year. I get the feeling
it'll be an edge rusher, but I don't know if
these quarterbacks are great. Maybe we're still trying to figure

(10:57):
out who's the Heisman Trophy candidate, the leading one.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, Paul, it happens every couple of years, or maybe
more than that. Twenty twenty two, the first pick of
the draft that was a quarterback was the twentieth pick.
Can He Picket out of Pittsburgh and it was like
Desmond Ritter, Malik Willis and a couple of years before that,
I think it was. Yeah, like it happens once in
a while, whether there's that just nobody goes early.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, but it feels like every year we always talk
about the next year, like, oh my gosh, there's a
lot of quarterbacks there. I'm like, I don't know, because
you have the Rams with two first round picks and
the Browns with two first round picks, and you know,
Stafford's probably not going to play after this season. And
the brown situation, I mean, maybe they got a starting
quarterback there, But now is when you find out instead

(11:42):
of playing Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
More, there's a mock draft I'm looking at right now
on CBS Sports, Mike Renner has a quarterback going number
one overall. Do we want to guess who the quarterback
is does.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
He play at Oregon?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
He does not?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Okay, does he play it Indiana? He does? Okay quickly.
Fernando Mendoza three hot weeks.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah yeah, I still go back to Kirk kurb Street
talking about Fernando Mendoza starting the season. Keep an eye
on him. Fernando and Indiana's played well, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Just remember though these mock drafts, the editors encourage you
to put quarterbacks in the top ten all over the place.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, nobody wants to, you know, click on a mock
draft that's got an edge rusher out of Georgia. Sorry,
they just don't. It's like, when's the first quarterback used
to be running backs? Oh, I have let me see
if I can find it.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yes, morbon I was gonna say for the Mendoza family,
don't get too excited because I'm sure sure Door Sanders
was the number one picking somebody's mock draft a year
of goal.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So I remember when we had Dion, he joined us
at the Super Bowl and we were talking about, you know,
his son would and wouldn't go, And it almost felt
like Dion thought that his son was gonna go top five,
not top five rounds top five, and hey, there's certain
teams we're gonna steer clear of, and then all of

(13:14):
a sudden, what unfolded.

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Speaker 2 (14:04):
Let me start with the Blue Jays closing out the Yankees.
The Tigers and Mariners are tied to two games apiece.
The Phillies are still alive as Kyle Schwarber had a
couple of home runs and the Cubs over the Brewers,
which certainly makes for some interesting baseball coming up. Phillies
at the Dodgers and then the Brewers at the Cubs
tonight to compete with Eagles at the Giants, Seaton, would

(14:29):
you give us the poll question from the first hour?

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, first hour. We're going to go with one from
PAULI here. Worst way to lose a playoff baseball game?
Got four options, strikeout looking with men on base, grounding
into a game ending double play, an error in the
field like a drop ball, something like that, or give
up the game winning home run.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
As a pitcher.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh now, I'll reflect back on what Mitch Williams told
me when he gave up home run that won the
World Series for Toronto. He gave up the home run
to Joe Carter, and he said, hey, you know, it's
it's not one of those that you're devastated by because
I threw my best and he hit my best. I
at least got that moment, and I like it was

(15:15):
a completely different take than I would have had. But
he said, hey, you want to throw your best, he
hit my best. And he was the better man and
they won the World Series.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yes, yeah, like some of you know, grounding into a
game ending double play, I don't think that that's a
bad way at all. It sucks, but you put the
ball in play, you know, you make contact that just
didn't find the gap in the infield or whatever. But
I mean, at least you gave your team a chance.
That's a lot different than say like striking out looking
where you don't even swing like that is just terrible.

(15:47):
Or an error in the field is brutal. That's brutal.
And you lose the game that way, that.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Is just awful.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
And having been there when Bill Buckner had the ball
go through his legs and he talked about that, you know,
they win the World Series. Ball goes through his legs,
and uh, you know that lives in infamy. All Right,
we'll settle on a poll question here. I did want
to bring the end the final call with the Yankees
against the Blue Jays. Blue Jays have put up some runs.

(16:13):
The Blue Jays have scored thirty four runs so far
in the playoffs. That's the most by any team through
its first four postseason games in baseball history.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
What's gonna stat of today has always brought to you.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
By a Panini America, the official trading cards to the program.
This is how it sounded on the Blue Jays Radio Network.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
So one, two swing and aim struck.

Speaker 10 (16:46):
Three screaming flex from Hoffman.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
The Blue Jays are back.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
In the ALCS for the.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
First time since twoenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
They down the Yankees in their own yard, and.

Speaker 10 (16:58):
They're the first team in Baseball's Final four.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Okay Blue Jays Radio Network. Dave Simms, of course, is
the play by play voice for the Yankees radio network.
He joined us a couple of days ago to talk
about maybe his lack of enthusiasm for a Blad Guerrero
Grand Slam. Fritzi called him out on that, so we thought,
let's juxtapose the two calls there. So here's Dave Simms

(17:23):
and the end of the Yankees season.

Speaker 10 (17:27):
There's a Pitts swinging in a miss and I'll do it.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
The Ronald Blue Jays are going to the American League
Championship Series, which starts on Sunday. As Hoffman is a very.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Defiant look at the Yankee dugout now very sad ending
to a Yankee season here in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Okay, Todd, you of course the big judge of Dave
Simms enthusiasm or lack thereof a.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Little morbid I was gonna help, he would take it
with him.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
How about that Blue Jays? He didn't do it, That's
all right, he did not.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You don't, are you okay with that kind of you know,
very somber call.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
It ended the season, so I can wink at that,
but it's very very somber, and I guess you're trying
to capture your audience. The Yankee fans are upset and said,
so you have to be sad, okay, understandable, soul A
big moment for the Blue Jays and then moving on
to alcs that should be acknowledge even.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
As a y know, yes, Paul, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
It wasn't a huge play like a game ending home
run by the Blue Jays where he had to do
the excitement and then bring it back down. It was
more and with all the men left on base, it
was like you could feel the disappointment coming. So he
captured the tone.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I think that there was speculation, there wasn't anything
that was concrete that maybe Aaron Boone would lose his job.
If they got swept and we had Christopher mad Dog
russo on, he goes nope. Front office loves Boone, loves Cashman.
Cashman's been there in some capacity since nineteen eighty six.
But Aaron Boone looks like he'll survive even though they

(18:58):
got one win out of this. And you have to
start to wonder, are the Yankees okay with this? From
from a certain standpoint? Are they okay that your team
is good? You have maybe the best player in the game,
you have a pretty you know, hefty payroll, But are
you okay not going to the alcs? Like how would

(19:21):
you sum this up? If you're a Yankee, you know,
person in the front office or Aaron Boone? Is there
any part of you that goes okay? Like did you
exceed expectations? Because I would be disappointed if I But
you know, growing up and seeing the Yankees, when the
Yankees were truly dominating and spending more money than anybody.

(19:42):
But that's not the case anymore. They've almost become kind
of prudent where you know, we're gonna pick and choose,
We're not going to go crazy on the Sodo contract,
and you know we've got a couple of good guys here.
I mean, they overpaid for a couple of players. Are
they still paying Jacoby Elsbury? He might, he might still
be getting paid by them, But it just feels like

(20:05):
and they didn't have Garrett Cole so you got I mean,
that's one of the best pitchers in the game. But
I don't know, this wouldn't have happened. They wouldn't have
you know, been kind of stuck in neutral with George Steinbrenner.
I just can't imagine he would go. Yeah, I'm okay
with that. They won one World Series game since what
twenty six twenty sixteen? Yes, Todd, is that right, Marvin?

(20:30):
Two thousand and nine, oh, two thousand and nine.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
The last time, Yeah, the last time they won was
against the Phillies in two thousand and nine when they
won the World six.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
No, no, I'm talking about winning a game nineeries.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
So they won one World Series game that was last year?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yes, yes, yeah, okay, all right, yes, Tom.

Speaker 9 (20:48):
Is it enough of a band aid that they can
say they knocked out the Red Sox in the playoffs?
As far as who's keeping their jobs and having anything
positive to say about this season for the Yankee.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I don't think this was a great Red Sox team.
I think this reds team felt like they overachieved a
little bit. But if I'm the Yankee Yankee fan, no,
this ain't about the Red Sox anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
No, because that Red.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Sox aren't the second best team or the or the
best team in the American League. You know, Toronto is
a young team and they got a lot of power,
score a lot of runs. You know, Tigers aren't going
away anytime soon. Uh, Seattle up and coming, young team,
you know, so you got to start thinking bigger picture
here than hey, we beat the Red Sox. That wouldn't

(21:29):
satisfy me. Yeah, Paul.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
The Yankees are currently at sixteen straight seasons without winning
a World Series, and that ties their longest stretch in
the history of the franchise. They went from seventy nine
till ninety six without winning, so sixteen years then as well.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
And having been there when George would fire Billy Martin
a couple of times, he just didn't, you know, and
it was very reactionary. You know, you were never surprised
that George was going to do something like that. And granted,
there has to be somewhere in between of today's you
know Yankees back to when George was there, but still accountability.

(22:05):
And I'm not, you know, I guess, pleading for or
suggesting they fire Aaron Boone. I mean, I'm not a
big fan of his from the standpoint of analytics. And
here's a guy who played the game, brother played the game,
his dad played the games, dad managed, like gut Feeling
still has a place in the game, and it doesn't
always feel that way when I look at the Yankees.

(22:27):
But I'm just surprised. But then you're gonna say, or
at least I would say, all right, and who you
bringing in? Because how many great managers out there, and
Aaron Boone, I think is a very good manager. I
just don't like when you bring out the binder and
all of a sudden, it's like you're ordering off a
menu or something.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, Pauline, I went back and look at the Blue
Jays history. They won the World Series in ninety two
and ninety three, and then they didn't appear in the
postseason for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Would you sign up for that? If you're a fan
pickets in ninety two and ninety three, I would like, if.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You're a Cleveland Guardians fan, you can win the next
two World Series and you don't make the playoffs again
for twenty years.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I would sign up for that.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, you have to write if I'm in Cleveland, yes
the choice, Yes, yes, yes I would. I mean the
Marlin fans they did that twice where you Okay, you're
gonna win and then you're not gonna do anything, and
then you'll win again and then not do anything.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, Marvin Marlin's got fans. Ah no, wow, all right?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Uh so eight seven seven three DP show a few
things talk about. Uh we'll talk to Florio about this
Belichick situation in North Carolina. And when you have to
put out statements, you know that, hey, we totally backed
Bill Bellie, Like we're we're what five games in, and
we're putting out statements. That doesn't bode well here, and

(23:59):
I I think what's happened. A lot of this has happened,
and that is we're blaming his young girlfriend. She gets
you know, like, oh my gosh, you know, how does
he let this happen? Exactly? Bill never had messes in
New England. Never he controlled everything, and now it seems

(24:20):
like he controls nothing. So I put the blame is
on Bill. Bill has to get this right, and everything
that you're hearing is like it's all negative. Now, granted
they do have two wins, it's just they've been blown
out three times and the two wins aren't impressive. But
if you didn't have all this drama, and let's say
you had a groundswell of support, the locker room wasn't fractured. Guys,

(24:45):
are you know there's positive positivity out there? Hey, that
guy looks pretty good. Hey, we got a bright future here. Well,
you don't have any of that. And if you're a
recruit or you're the parents of a recruit, you want
your kid.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Going to North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
And North Carolina has never had a problem with getting
top talent.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Never.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Every single draft, it feels like, oh, another player at
in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
This is on Bill.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Bill's gonna wear this and this will be his last stop.
I can't imagine the Dolphins are gonna go, hey, when
we get rid of Mike McDaniel, why don't you just
come down here and break down schules all time victory record.
I don't see that happening. But man, there's a lot
of reporting going on with this with Belichick, North Carolina.

(25:32):
But you know, the owners should not be on his girlfriend. Okay,
I mean she's acting like she's twenty four years of age.
She's acting like she's in charge. Bill has allowed this
to happen. He allowed this to happen. And I can't
imagine if he was coaching the Patriots, she would be
on the sidelines. I can't imagine that she would be

(25:52):
involved in an interw like this does never happened. So
it's not just her and I think she's getting she's
the focal point because we all have this, you know,
same reaction of he's seventy three and she's twenty four.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
But that's why I wonder where his priorities are. I
truly do.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I don't know if he wants to continue to be,
you know, this mastermind, this great football coach. It just
feels like something is missing there, like his enthusiasm doesn't
seem like it's pointed towards football. And everybody that he hired.
His son is his defensive coordinator. He brought in Mike Lombardi.

(26:32):
I mean, he brought in all the people, and plus
when you recruit, he recruited, so you bring in freshmen
and you bring in transfers. So those are players that
Bill is bringing in. Seventy players he brought in, not
I'm going to inherit Mac Brown's roster. If you said
in North Carolina, hey, you want to do over you

(26:53):
want to keep mac Brown? I think we know the
answer to that. All right, we'll get to pull questions,
we'll get your phone calls, and we'll talk to Florio
coming up. Also the Cincinnati Bengals. You know when that
or I should say the Browns. When the head coach
doesn't realize that Joe Flacco is going to be traded,
I don't know what that says about Kevin Stefanski, but

(27:15):
he was like, I'm surprised we traded Joe. All right,
Andrew Berry, the GM pulled the trade off, and then
your head coach is like, okay, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
And you got Flacco playing against the Green Bay Packers again.
He can be the second quarterback in NFL history pro
football history to beat the same team in the same
season while playing for two different teams.

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Speaker 2 (27:53):
Live the big story, the Giant's upsetting the Eagles. Three
touchdowns for Cam Skataboo, and I go back to the draft. Now,
if you follow the show, you know that I was
high on Jackson Dark. My source said that he had
a first first round great on him. I got to
see him probably play three or four full games at

(28:13):
Ole Miss and I liked what I saw. He had mobility,
and you're playing for Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin is a
offensive minded head coach. He certainly has a lot of
swagger at that position. Transfer in from USC and then
Cam Skataboo, who we got to see kind of late
in his career, and you got to see something that

(28:34):
we thought was really special. Different, interesting. But I didn't
know if he was going to be maybe too slow
or too limited to play at this level. I do
know if the balls on the one or two yard line,
I know who's getting it. But with Jalen Carter not
in there, last night, they ran right up the middle
and Skataboo had three touchdowns. By the way, the last

(28:56):
Giant to have three touchdowns in a game Saquon Barkley,
that was also in his rookie season. But surprise, surprise,
and you know you're seeing something. And granted it's the
embryonic stages here with the Giants, but we talked about this.
They were gonna stay with Russell and they were gonna

(29:16):
stay with him for maybe a month, and then you
were going to ease into Jackson Dart because if you
ease into Jackson Dart, now, if you have success, if
ownership looks at this and says, maybe we have something here,
let's not make a change at the head coach coaching
position or the GM, and that might be what happened
or happens. I know that when we looked at Russ,

(29:37):
I thought maybe they were gonna play Russ longer than
they should. But maybe they thought we gotta win games
because if we don't win games with this schedule, we
won't make it to the second half of the season.
Now you have something interesting there, and maybe maybe Jackson
Dart will save Brian Daball's career. Also Joe Shane the GM,

(29:59):
and maybe they were reaches. You know, maybe it was
a reach in the first round for Jackson Dart. Maybe
Cam Scautaboo a fourth round draft pick. You weren't quite sure,
but you have hope. And they don't have any weapons
on offense. I mean, I'm looking at the wide receivers
and I go, huh who. But they somehow made something

(30:21):
happen last night. And the only thing that I would
say is Jackson Dart, I love your mobility, but I
want you to continue.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
To have mobility. Slide.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Don't take on dbs. Nobody cares. You don't have to
be a tough guy. Slide slide because all it takes
is you. And you got nicked up and they put
him in the concussion tent. But that's where Brian Dable,
the head coaches, right outside. It's almost like, come on,
let's go, you're good, come on, here we go. And

(30:53):
all of a sudden, Jackson Dart comes back out and
it's like, okay, I guess he passed a concussion protocol.
But his head coach, Brian Dable, talked about Jackson Dart's performance.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Good team win.

Speaker 11 (31:08):
That's a division team on a row or at home
should I say home crowd was awesome, but we got
to give him a reason to be awesome too. So
another good game by a rookie quarterback, but another good
game from everybody around him. And that's what we need it.
You know, it's not about one guy, it's about a team.
Two turnovers on defense, very good third down execution on offense,

(31:31):
rand the ball well, finish the game. It's good to
have a young leader like Dart.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Okay, maybe a little more emotion, a little more enthusiasm there, Brian,
he might have saved your job. Stat of the day
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the baseball and the Dodgers made it interesting. Great pitching
last night. That was fun, fun to watch. And uh
here is the final call of the Dodgers. Moving on
to the NLCS.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Heart rates through the room. The oh one pitch pat
has grounds it back to Kirkery. He can't find it.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
He does Home's what ten scores and the Dodgers are
going to the Championship Series. Fireworks go off in center field.
The Dodgers celebrate your first.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Base on a ground ball back to.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
The pitcher Andy po Has somehow gets the job done.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
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So you got bases loaded to come back to back
or to corookering, and he is looking to make a
play at home and he doesn't have to. He can
go to first and get the out. But he pauses
and it's almost as if he took his eye off
the ball and the glove, you know, his glove and
the batter, and he got lost. He got caught in

(33:10):
no man's land. Kim scores. Kim actually missed home plate
and then came back and touched home plate, but a
wild And we were talking about the worst way to lose,
and it's a walk off air, and that's what happened.
Here is Rob Thompson, the Phillies manager, on what he
said to his pitcher after the loss.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Rob obviously a heartbreaking way to lose.

Speaker 12 (33:32):
Quickly had a long conversation with Oryan coming off the field.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Do you want to share little what you told him.

Speaker 12 (33:36):
Just to keep his head up? And he just got
caught up in the moment a little bit coming down
the stretcher. He pitched so well for us. I feel
for him because he's he's putting it all on his shoulders.
But we went as a team and we lose as
a teams.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I couldn't help but think of spring training because if
you've ever gone to spring training and you get there early,
not for a game, but just when they're doing drills,
one of the first drills you do is that you
have a comebacker to the pitcher and then he throws
to first base. I mean, these are really menial task
that you're doing as a pitcher. It's like, okay, you

(34:14):
got a comebacker, and then you throw over to first base,
and then the next picture comes in, the next picture
comes in. It's all just everybody's doing the same repetition here,
and you know, you kind of put yourself on automatic
pilot until you're in a moment when the season is
on the line and a comebacker and really you were
prepared to make the play at first base because your

(34:36):
body was squared up to home plate to get the ball.
You don't have to try to get the play at
the at home plate, get the out at first base,
had plenty of time to do so. But in these moments,
and I don't know if somebody says, hey, if it
comes back to you, you got the easy out at
first base. These are little things. And your catcher is

(34:56):
pointing to first base like that's the play, and then
he throws home and the catchers you know it was wide.
He had no chance there, but your catcher is going
throw it first, and all of a sudden he's throwing
at home and then it was too late.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yes, ton as.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
Unforgivable as it may seem, and you learn that in
the little league and all that kind of stuff. In
the moment, in your preferal vision, when the season and
the it's all on the line and you see that
runner right in front of you coming home, I can
in that split second, I can understand, like, I gotta
get this right. It's right in front of me. I
gotta flip it to the catcher for the tag. And
that's just you know, he deserves the criticism and it

(35:32):
sucks at this season ended like that, but I can
understand somehow that he thought, let me get him at home.
I'm not sure if I could make the throw it
first how far down the runner is, and I got
this right.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
In front of me.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Happen If the catcher's pointing to first base, that's your indicator.
But the catcher should be saying and reminding him, hey,
come backer, you got the easy out at first. I mean,
this is all baseball one oh one. It's not hindsight.
It's just baseball one oh one. Get the out of first,
that's all. You don't have to try to, you know,
because to play at home, I know you're going to

(36:03):
get a force, but you still got to make sure
you get the right throw. I was surprised Kim didn't
slide because I would have gone in there and made
it even tougher for the catcher, and he didn't. Maybe
he was shocked that they were coming home instead of
going to first. But the Dodgers advanced to the NLCS.
They'll wait for the winner of the Brewers and the Cubs.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yes, Marvin, yeah, you remember in little league when the
catcher would go a two outs, plays till wherever plays
the first. That's probably what they should have done, because
he knew right then and there. I think he got
caught up in he saw the runner going home as
soon as he bobbled the ball. That was the first thing.
He bobbled the ball, and he looked up and he panicked,
and he saw the guy ready to score. I don't
even think he was looking towards first base at all

(36:41):
or the catcher.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well, you know in that kind of I guess situation
where you're thinking, boy, if he scores, then we lose. Well,
his run doesn't count if you get the out at first.
And that's where you.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Just remind you remind that's all. I mean, that's why.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
There's this scoreboard out there that tells you how many ounts.
But what happens, you know, you get one out and
shortstop a go all right, one down, one down, you know,
everybody holding up two down, two down.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I was just.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Surprised that and maybe they did that. Hey, the easy out,
go to first, that's where we want to go.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Well, yeah, as soon as you bobble that ball, everything
he just said went out the window.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yes, you do.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
As soon as you bobble the ball, he panicked and
threw the ball to the wrong place, even looking at.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
His catcher, who was pointing to first.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
He's still threw it at the catcher because you panic.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, Paulin And the most cruel thing about baseball is
he's standing there on the mound after the play and
the Dodgers are celebrating around him.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
He can't escape.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
He's got to walk off casually.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
That's tough.

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Friday Seaton. What's poll question for the first hour of
the program? Worst night Phillies Eagles, Well, Phillies because the

(38:06):
season's over.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Yeah, but the Eagles got cooked by a horrible Giants
team rival.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, that's but terrible.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
The Eagles don't have to reinvent themselves. They have to
rediscover themselves. And I think they've kind of lost who
they are. What's their identity? You're throwing the ball an
awful lot. You went away from Saquon Barkley in the
second half of the game. And I give the Giants credit.
They played and like this game really meant something to them.

(38:35):
Playing at home. Jackson Dark played well, the defense played well,
but I would say the Phillies because the season is over.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
The Eagles we got a long way to go.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
Yeah, Saquon opened the game just ripping off two monster
runs and it's like, okay, here we go. This is
going to be the game plan for to do this.
You know, latherrints, repeat for the rest of the night,
and you you're walking away with an easy dub here.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
And you know the giant situation, that momentum at a
home and I wondered, you know, are they gonna have
that home field advantage being a seven point underdog, and.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
It felt like that. Although I felt bad for.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Russell Wilson, he came in for one play in the
fans booed, come on, I'd say, you're better than that,
but I don't know if you are. I mean, it's
russ is not going in there to try to fail.
The ball was tipped that he threw and then you know.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
You boo him.

Speaker 9 (39:27):
What are you bowing him for?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
What the heck? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I don't know, but but you have something with Jackson
dark He at least keeps them interesting, keeps them relevant,
that he is a watchable performer and Skataboo is not
afraid of anybody.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I don't know if he's going to be a good
running back, but boy, he runs like you just said
something about his family. He's going after he runs angry.
It's like somebody's gonna hurt This is gonna hurt me,
but it's gonna hurt you more. And that's when when
I watch him, there's a combination of Marshawn Lynch and

(40:04):
Larry Zonka. When I watch him, it's I'm taking on
contact and this is going to hurt you more than
it's going to hurt me.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, Paul, I'm looking at Scataboo's draft profile five nine
and a half two hundred and twenty pounds, and the
only criticisms were breakaway speed, cutting ability, the basics, but
they include that he runs like a maniac. He actually
says maniac.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Sorry, sorry ahead, Yah, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
The Giants do kind of have something with that tandem,
though they both have for what is essentially like a
swagless team.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Uh, those two.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Fellas have a little bit of it where it's like, man,
we might be able to build around this.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
Poll Seaton is referencing the hope meter, which we unveiled
at this time last year, and right now the New
York Giants are high on the hope meter, not high
on the chance to make the playoffs meter. There's two
different things, hopometer, the hopometer, the hopometer or the hopometer,
whichever the hope meter the hopometers, depending where you're from.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
By the way, we'll have the most must win game
of the weekend coming up a little bit later on
Interesting college Football Weekend, Great college Football Weekend, and Ohio State, Illinois, Bama, Missouri, Indiana, Oregon, OU,
Texas Florida A and M Florida versus Texas A and
M Michigan USC. This one, to me, I think it's

(41:22):
must see TV because USC has Michigan, then Notre Dame,
and later in the season they have Oregon. So if
this is two thousand and four and USC is four
and one, they're ranked in the top ten, they're not ranked.
They're four and one. That's how far they've fallen and

(41:42):
still waiting for the end. You have the tough loss
at Illinois, but this is a you better win at
home against Michigan, and then you got Notre Dame at
Notre Dame and a little bit later on Oregon,
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