September 30, 2025 • 41 mins
Covino is back tomorrow, Rich & the crew hold it down! There is MLB Wild Card action! Rich finally gets to vent about the Mets & talks fans who always want to blow things up when a team fails. Rich fantasizes over Brock Purdy's toe & the crew discusses Tyreek Hill's gruesome injury!
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Buddy boy, Hey, let's be rocking out Tuesday, Little Taco Tuesday. Yeah,
I do get tacos every Tuesday, No joke.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Day.
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Stuff is so expensive these days that hell, Toyo Loko
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them a shout, but go all right, a lot to
get to Today. We're gonna talk about conditioning gone too far.
We're talking a lot of NFL, some wild Card baseball,
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Fox Sports Radio. But before we do all that, let's
say Hi. I was Samuel Hi. I was saying, oh hello,
Danny g with the smoothest voice in the biz, Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yo, happy Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And my guy, Damn Buyer, how are you d be
doing great?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Rich? How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I want to talk about blowing up teams today when
things don't go. Great, we're going to get to that.
But before we do all that, I just this is
on my mind because I just went by the way.
I went to the liquor store, not because I'm boozing.
It's the closest place that sells these little Starbucks drinks.
And my wife on our credit card bill, she's like,
why are you going to the liquor stor every three days?
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I'm like, no, babe, I'm not boozing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, nice cover story, I know. So I got a
little coffee drink.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
By the way, is there variable pricing at that liquor store?
Because you can buy one thing one day and it's
three nineteen, and then somebody else is working and it's
three ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The little crappy Starbucks can that should not be anything
more than a couple bucks four to fifty.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
There'll be four to fifty. Then tomorrow somebody knew we'll
be working there, it'll be five ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Trust me, And then three the next day. Oh yeah,
they got you by the you know what, they just
had a look at you. I lived in Times Square.
I know that sounds crazy, but for a year and
a half of my life my wife and I lived
in Times Square because I was doing radio and television
in mid tall Manhattan, and it only made sense to
live where I was working because I was going back
and forth a lot to the studio. I'd go to
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the deli across the street and get like a bacon,
egg and cheese on a bagel, and they made a
different price every time. And I finally said to the
guy I live across the street, I'm local, and he's like, oh, okay,
And I had a better price from that point on
because they say they you know, they see tourists all
day and they're like, bacon, egg and cheese, twelve bucks.
That'll be uh ninety four dollars exactly, and then you
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know they'd be like, eh, five bucks. I want the
local discount. So here's where I have a dumb question,
and then we'll get to all my deep thoughts today.
Thanks for hanging Cavino's swimming in a sonote somewhere and
based on our Mets Yankees bet half his vacation was
on me. So enjoy Cavino, Go get a massage. I
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go to get my little can of coffee, and I
see they have scratchers now I'm not a scratch off
lottery guy. My grandfather was, I think every World War two.
The old guy from the old the timey times was
I've never bought a scratcher maybe in twenty years. But
they had a ten dollars ticket and it was said
million dollars and they were forty nine ers. It was
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like a big forty nine ers logo. And I said,
you know what, let me get one of those, boy,
And the guy goes, ooh for the lottery it's cash only. Now,
I'm honestly it's on my mind that that one ticket
that I couldn't buy, that I was going to buy
is a big winner.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's your destiny, my destiny.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I almost want to be like, please, can you put
that one? I almost want to call him during the break.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
And they put it aside, go to the ATM, pay
the five dollars ATM fee just to get the cash
out to buy that just scratch off a millionaire.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh you know what they could be? You never know,
You never know. All right, well, hey, welcome to Coveno
and Rich. Those are the dumb things I think of,
and there's plenty more today. We're gonna have a lot
of fun. But as we watched Wildcard Baseball, congrats to
the Tigers. Schooble did what Schoobl's supposed to do. Right,
You're you're cy young, your ace. Look at that. And
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the ninth they caught the Guardians in a little pickle
between vision and home. It was, you know, it's playoff baseball.
Two to one, Schooball going seven and two thirds, which
is again what an ace should do. So congrats the
detroit they're up one to oh maybe they get back
on track in the postseason. Now I saw that the
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Cubbies beating the Padres two to one, and you'll have
Wildcard Baseball all day. Sort of bumm because part of
me assume that this week, Danny, you and I we'd
be battling Mets Dodgers. But that didn't happen because the
Mets had every opportunity on planet Earth to back into
the playoffs. The Reds were not some powerhouse team. When
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your team fails and you know, neglects to make the postseason,
if some other team went eighteen and two over their
final twenty and it's like, what are you gonna do?
They were just that good. They were inspired, like like
the Cleveland Guardians. They just got so good at the
end of the year. Can't You can't help yourself but say,
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and they deserved it. The Reds did nothing to deserve this.
It's almost like the consolation prize for the Mets sucking
so bad over their last eighty games. The Reds were
forty and forty. They're a five hundred team. In fact,
Danny g you sent me a meme yesterday that aggravated
me even more. Do you want to read some of
these fun facts about this Cincinnati Reds team that if
your Dodgers don't sweep immediately, you should be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, let me pull that up here.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think it was like, not one pitcher with fifteen
or more wins, Not one batter batted two seventy or higher.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, no qualifying batter hit two seventy or above. No
batter hit twenty five homers. No pitcher won fifteen games.
No pitcher on the Reds notch two hundred strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So it's even more embarrassing when you look at what
Steve Cohen tried to put together with David Stearns in
New York and then Mets fell short. I will not
make this all about my Mets, I promise you. But
it's just the latest example of a team that spends
a lot of money and it doesn't work out the
way the fan base and ownership wanted. Here's the question.
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At the trade deadline, we remember what was the big
thing up. Mets and Padres won the trade deadline. Mets
got Hellsley, they got some relievers, they got Mullins in
center field, and at that time I was like Mets
made some improvements. Those guys all ended up sucking. A
major case of the sucking queens is that David Stearn's fault.
He made the moves Mendoza. Do you blame the manager?
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Is that who falls on the sword. I have met
fan friends that say things like, well know you got
to do no, gotta blow the whole thing up. Everyone's
gotta go. So I want to start there today and
no way we will get to Tyreek Kale. I have
thoughts on him, and I think you look pretty happy
for god I got injured. I think he's happy that
his days in Miami are done. He'll start next year
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and I guarantee it's not there. There's updates with him.
Drew Rosenhaus has given some updates on Tyreek Hill. But
when your team stink stanny if the Lakers, you know,
are a low seed in the playoffs, early exit, and
of course a lot of people in LA will say
things like you got a new coach, revamp, knew everything.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, this has happened in recent years.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Actually, do you subscribe to this or do you say no, no, no,
you don't need to rebuild or blow the whole thing up,
You just need to revamp.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Depends on the leadership of the team.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
If it seems like it's rotten to the core, then
that's when, you know, fans with higher IQs would be like, well,
something's got to change from the top down. But if
you have all the right pieces in place and there
was just a lot of underperformance going on, then it's
a different story.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, call me naive. I really feel like sometimes
you just have bad luck. I know, you say bad
luck for three four months since June when the Mets
stunk like third worst team in baseball. That's a long
period of stank stink. That's like the Great Stink of
eighteen fifty eight, which we've talked about before. But does
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there come a point where you say, hey, man, the
talents there, run it back. It's just everything went wrong.
They had no comeback victories. Only team in baseball this
year to not have a ninth inning comeback. That's insane.
What are you gonna do? You just signed Wan Soto.
Lindor is clearly the fan favorite. Everyone's gonna want you
to resign Pete Alonzo and give him the money that
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he clearly has now earned. Nimo's signed for like a decade.
What do you do? Do you not run it back
with a core of a team. Do you really start saying, well,
they didn't make the postseason, they only won eighty three games,
let's blow it all up.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's it's seriously is situation by situation? Because of what
you just laid out, you would think, I think that
the change that you could make would be at the
managerial spot.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And then so what they did. They immediately said, oh,
Carlos Mendoza will be back. So what would have been
the sacrificial lamb so to speak for the fan base? Right, like, well,
all right, they're doing something. You think of all these
bone heads and queens that I root with, right, yeah,
Mendoza's gone and Sterns gets a little slap on the wrist, like, yeah,
you're warning, warning Sterns. We know you rebuilt Milwaukee, but hey, hey,
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none of that happened. So you're especially with Roco Belldell Madelli,
Bochie Ron Washington, aren't a lot of you know, there's
manager options. Plus guys were not even thinking about to
immediately say Mendoza's coming back.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned the Brewers, and as a
Brewers fan, not nearly as much of a Mets fan
as you are. But I go back to two thousand
and eight when this team was trying to end their
playoff drought from nineteen eighty two and then everything going
for them and all of a sudden they hit this slide.
And Ned Yost had a lot more equity within that
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organization than Carlos Mendoza does with the Mets. But the
Brewers are trying to end a twenty six year postseason drought.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're thinking about your baseball go but robbin Yelt's name
any long, Yes, at that time.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
You know, and you're thinking at that point, like, we
can't miss this opportunity. The change that we need to
make because we're sliding. Is they were competing with the
Mets that year for the wild card. When you're looking
at that physition, they made the decision to fire Yost
because if they didn't make the playoffs, he wasn't going
to be back the next year and you needed to
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salvage something. So Dale Swam ended up taking over and
they saved the season. They ended up making the postseason
and ending the drought, and everyone was happy. The outcome
was though, if you don't make the playoffs, Yost has
gone anyway, so let's do it now. I'm surprised it
didn't happen with the Mets because of the slide that
they were at, and then it didn't happen, then like
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to make the move. Move to say we need to
make a change is probably the reason why they are
keeping him for next year, which doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I assume he's very popular with the players, but then again,
but then again, like maybe that's not necessarily always the
best thing, right.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, And I get like the like the Marlins lined
up the weekend to beat you guys. Oh yeah, like
you know, like they set up their pitching staff the
way it is. But there is something that I think
is so poetic and not in a good way for
you for the Mets to not score any runs on
the final day of the season, and so at that
point something has to be done. And so that's why
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I'm not saying you can't blow it up with everything
that you've got committed, but you had to at least
make a change to signify this is why it happened.
This is what we've identified. And maybe that perception may
not be reality, but it feels like you're at least
addressing the problem at a low a low cost of
firing a manager, which happens a lot in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It's it's a low cost, you know move and a
fan reactive move to get rid of a manager. It
might not be you know, always right, Manards is not playing,
the GM's not playing. When when like Danny g when
Stearns goes out during the trade deadline and you know,
acquires bullpen help and Mullins in center field at that time,
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you even agree that they were like man METSA made
some good moves.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I saw headlines that said the Padres and the Mets
were the trade deadline winners.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So if he made the moves that made sense on paper,
could you then blame the GM or is that like,
because now you're saying, like, well, the GM's not responsible,
but we're bringing back the manager. He's not responsible. Who's responsible?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Then?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And again, don't make it about my Mets. If you
don't want to, just think of your own team. If
your team is not doing well, do you say who's
the core players? These guys are under contract and it
know what, it makes me think of annoying fan pet Peeves,
which is where I sort of want to go with
this because there's so many people that love to say,
get rid of this guy, get rid of that guy,
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fire this guy, do this, And the answer is never
simply that contracts, no trade causes, all these things are there,
and get rid of Nimmo. Yeah he's locked up until
twenty thirty something. Are you gonna trump find a trade
partner and then approve it through him? And then who
who's playing outfield for you? What do you the guy
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that you thought was gonna be captain for the Mets?
Lin d'Or fan favorite. Every kid's got a number twelve shirt,
you're gonna say goodbye Francisco. Let me find another elite shortstop.
The Mets have so much talent it's disgusting. Offensively how
they couldn't get the job done. Is it safe to
say sometimes you just quote run it back and hope
you have better luck.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, I would say this. I think this year what
should have been the Mets last year and last year
should have been the Mets this year. Yeah, So if
you want to go, I'll go with ball don't lie theory.
So the Mets shouldn't have made it to the NLCS
last year. I mean, they probably shouldn't have beaten the
Brewers in having the Roics that they did. That was
also a year last year that I thought that the
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we thought as a collective group that give David Sterns
a year they weren't going to be spending a lot
of money, and it was going to be leading up
to twenty twenty five. I would take as the ball
don't lie theory that in that case, if that's what
the Mets are going to do, I just don't think.
The reason why I thought earlier you make the change
at the managerial spot is because I don't know how
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much equity he built up last year. But if you
want to look at it from a twenty thousand feet view,
I think that that way of last year should have
been this year, then this year should have been last year.
It's probably the way you rationalize it if you're Steve Cohen.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just can't wrap my head around it. As a fan.
I feel like today when I watched Danny g and
Bow and Bersch and everyone here with their Dodger shirts on,
and I know Covino's probably sitting, like I said, in
a lounge chair with his Yankees, you know, swimsuit on
his pinstripe little five inch speedo.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
But it hasn't everything like like I know, like the
pet Alnzo situation hasn't worked out. But this is what happens.
Like you got your GM that you've wanted for years
and years and years, right, You've now signed Juan Soto
in a.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
This is supposed to be it, and then you know
you didn't do.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Though it's just one year.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Like you have all these things that are thought to
be long term decisions, and so I guess that would
be the reason to not overreact or to tell your
buddies to to not blow it up. These are guys
that were brought in because over the long haul, you
feel that you will have more success than you than
you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I mean you you get sodo, Like you said,
maybe just last year should have been this year. This
year should have been last year. But if you guys
have any other annoying fan, pet Peeves, I would love
to hear him because one of my one of mine
that always bothers me, Danny. I know. I see with
Dave Roberts and your Dodgers, people have to be like
fire and it's like, all right, fire blank and tell
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me who then.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, And in a lot of cases nowadays with analytics
in the front office, is holding so much power over
a manager. Dave Roberts a lot of people think is
just a pawn for Friedman, So really he has job security.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's really interesting you would say that because I read
an article today in the New York Post. Sorry to
be so Mets heavy, but it had to do with well,
maybe Mendoz is safe Danny and Dan Byer because he's
well liked and he was really just putting the lineup
out there that David Stearns in the front office was
telling him to put out there. Sure, it's like you know,
falling the sword for what our decisions?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Do you give him credit for last year? Do you
give Mendoza credit for last year's run.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They did last year by saying when the Mets started
out so bad and he was you know, he kept
that cool demeanor. He got credit last year for that.
I don't know. I just think it's very interesting to
see New York fans react when they spend so much money.
When you look at payrolls, the teams that spend money,
they're all in there, except for the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies,
all the you know, they're all there.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Look, I look at the Seahawks, and the Pete Carroll
era in Seattle is one that will be remembered fondly
in later years and still to this day because of
the Super Bowl and the success in the places that
they reached that they never did.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
But you can't tell me that the.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Past five to eight years of the Pete Carroll era
in Seattle, while it was winning football most of the time,
winning record, that it was inspiring football, things got old.
Things got like stale in a way. And that's holding
on to holding on to a coach that brought your
team to the greatest of heights. There probably wasn't a
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reason to fire Pete Carroll when they did or to
move on from Pete Carroll, but you understood the temperature
of your organization at that time, and ownership did make
the right move and it's now going to likely payoff
as I think the Seahawks are a top ten team
this season and Mike McDonald seems to have that defense right,
you know, in a good place. But they didn't bottom
out retch, they didn't go three to fourteen. Yeah, no,
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they just yeah, they were just there just was nothing there.
So that's when you have to make the decision. So
that's when you are ownership or that's where you are
the front office. You really have to have a sense
overall of is it blowing it up, is it not
blowing it up, is it tearing it down?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Do you just need a new voice?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Because even just with with the Seahawks on paper, it
wouldn't have looked like Pete Carroll was worthy of being dismissed.
Yet everything that you saw for the past three seasons
were probably reasons why he should have been dismissed.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Then you hear about people that well, they you know,
they they couldn't read the room, and they got rid
of clubhouse guys, guys that really bonded the team and
you and you know, over a long season, you forget
these clubhouse guys, these locker room guys in football, they
may have more value than you think. I heard like JD.
Martinez and oh my god, Iglesias was a big deal
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for the Mets and kept things light. So every team's
got those guys. Maybe you don't value them enough, and
I don't know. It just it's interesting to see your
team on the outside looking in when there's just so
much talent. It's frustrating all in all sports for that matter,
it really is.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Nego Horner a sacrifice fly bottom of the eighth inning,
comes now up three to one on the Padres, bottom
of the eighth.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, I guess you know, I saved myself money because
I probably would have tried to go to one of
these games. Now I'm doing the rationalization, save money playoff games.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Who wants to spend all enjoy it? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
And Rich really quick to tie in a couple of
teams who played last night. The Dolphins responded the way
we thought they would. We saw them play hard against
the Bills. We saw them play hard last night. And
then I heard Ben Maller on our Network screaming about
how the Bengals gave up on coach Zach Taylor. So
there's obviously injury involved in that situation. But there's a
couple of teams like the Titans, the Bengals, Panthers.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
For me, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
From the quarterback himself that the Titans are s Yeah.
Quarterback himself told me. I was like, what with NFL.
You're talking about your Mets. With NFL such shorter season, obviously,
Oh yeah, what do you do in that situation? Do
you do you blow it up halfway through and try
to salvage something with an assistant coach taking over, or
do you wait until the offseason. I mean, if your
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team's ass, I mean, we're keeping a book right now,
we ask yeah, I mean if your ass, I mean
you saw your Raiders Antonio Pierce came in to try
to save the day, but that doesn't work out long term.
All the time, the NFL much shorter leash because you're
talking about seventeen games, not one sixty two or eighty two.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You know, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
A different mindset, you know. I just want to make
one more analogy and then we'll move on. I think,
whether it's baseball football, basketball, hockey, every sport where you
have a passionate fan base, especially where again one last
Mets note, they broke their attendance record. The fans really
thought you got Soto. They believed in what this team
was building. So you break attendance records. There needs to
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be accountability. Danny g Danbar. You guys are dads. When
your kid does something, especially as they get older, when
they do something and misbehave, they have to be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's just yeah, fifteen minutes in the dog crate.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yep, that's what Danny does. The little CoA put him
in the dog crate. It's a large dog crate. Don't
nobody like when my kids, you know, Coach Rich here,
When my kids mope around, I say, hey, listen, buddy,
you gotta put I always say energy and effort. That's
what Coach Rich wants. Energy, effort and just play and
have fun. Energy and effort. When that kid's moping around,
I'm like, hey, man, Then you ask me, hey, coach,
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could I play shortstop or bet? First? No, you didn't
put in the effort, effort and energy, buddy boy. So
I think we want to see accountability and when your
team poops to bed, and it's like, oh, don't worry,
coaches will be back, and oh the core is still here.
Fans don't like that. They want accountability. It's like it's
like a husband that goes to Vegas for the weekend
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and you know, bang some girls spearm at Rhino and
then his wife's like, oh, honey, you silly goose, like
he should be held accountable. I'm not saying that's a
true story. It happened to me. I'm just saying that's
happened to someone. Sure, allays will be boys and boys. Yeah,
very descriptive, you know. And then and then lost seven
hundred dollars on roulette that night. What I'm kidding very
specific titles. Well, hey, your thoughts on blowing up the
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team or running it back? But coming up next we'll
take thoughts on that Tyreek kill. Last night we watched
a little double doozy the second game more of a
snoozy it was, I mean, and by the way, have
you noticed every time I make a bet and don't
put the bet in what are we like five for
five into that? Ye?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah? Five? And oh you didn't put actual money on.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Under forty under forty nine and a half. We hit
that with Jets Dolphins by a point and a half. Thanks,
and I said Broncos minus one and a half. We
should have just done a straight bet on that. But
last night you saw some Monday night football. We'll break
it down, break it, break it down all next right here,
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Good until Covino returns tomorrow. You know he's gonna have
it in for you.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Do I do like a jerk move and payment like singles?
I do, I go get a Brinks truck of.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Quarters to Actually I went to the bank when I
was on Ben Mallers Show back in like twenty sixteen.
I went to the bank when I owed him a
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I got boxes of nickels and I piled up the
boxes of nickels to pay.
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Oh see he was not happy.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, I don't know, because now then he's gonna bit
and complain that he has to then go to the bank,
and you know what, I'll just be a man. Can
I get a big check? Should I at least make
it dramatic and try to find like one of those
big checks, like I'm a Ed McMahon, But then again,
someone told me Ed McMahon never actually had those big checks,
one of those like.
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Yeah, I could be bought.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
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What do you want me to do? What? Run around
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Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
My suggestion was here on Ventura Boulevard during an entire
commercial break. You hold a big Yankees rules sign with
bells and whistles and either that or a met stink sign.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh he just Cavino just went a vacation. He's paying
for his daughter's sweet sixteen and his ac went out. Cavino,
He's probably gonna try to swindle more money out anybuddy. Yes,
all right, you know what, Let's go to our buddy
Dan Byer for an update, and then we're going to
talk to some tyree killed dB. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
My friend Danny Rich Sam Spot.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We got a final at Wrigley, but before it went final,
this happened.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Kelly swings and it's a.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
High five ball.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
D put center field, going back sheets at the track.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
They're the line.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Gomb Cops take the league.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Carson Kelly went back to back with Saya Suzuki. Cubs
led to to one. They added insurance in the eighth
on a Nico Horner sackfly. They just beat the Padres
three to one to get Game one of their National
League wild Card Series. It's a best of three. Copies
win three to one.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Look at Danny g smiling. You hate the Padres?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Huh? I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Are you smiling?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Ear to ear?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Come on, many Machato. You don't wan have to be
happy anyway.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
It's interesting because the Brewers fared better against the Cubs
this year than they did with the Padres. But you
would think, do you want to face your rival? Do
you want your rival to lose?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Three to one, Cubs get that victory. A lower scoring
affair earlier today in Cleveland between the Guardians and Tigers.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Scobel drops his hands into his motion. The O two
is swinging a mess. Who change up? Gets John Kinzen
Noel to start the eighth. Fourteen strikeouts for Trek Scobel.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And seven and two thirds on the Tigers Radio Network,
a career high. It's out of frame tranchise high in
the postseason with fourteen ks, Tigers beat the Guardians two
to one. Cleveland had a runner on third with no
one out in the ninth and the Tigers got out
of it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Man.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, they got Jose Ramirez in a rundown after a
comebacker to the picture with one out and that kind
of saved the day for the Guardians. Red Sox and
Yankees coming up six Eastern, Reds Dodgers nine Eastern. Ron Washington,
who had to take a leave of absence this year
because of health issues for the Angels, will not return
next to her as their skipper. Neither will interim manager
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Ray Montgomery. And here's an update on Brock Purty for you.
The quarterback said today he would not be able to
play if they played the Rams tonight because of his
toe injury. Says he's got two more days, did not practice,
but John lynchaid earlier today on cambr that party will
likely be questionable for that game against la as will
Juwan Jennings and Ricky pearsall and ah and Drew Rosenhouse
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says that his client, Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill, had
successful surgery to repair his injured knee and says the
realistic goal is for Hill to be by the start
of the season. Danny's Raiders are putting Colton Miller on
irs the tackles suffered a high ankle sprain with a
hairline fracture in his leg and that lost to the
Bears this past weekend. And some sad news from your
alma mater, Former Syracuse hoopstar Lawrence Moutin died at the
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age of fifty three.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Rich back to you, yo, Dan Bayer, Did I hear
you correctly? And please say no. Ricky Piercell and Juwan
Jennings both questionable.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Likely to be That was the message from John Lynch.
No practice for them.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Well, short week, maybe they just get a little rest.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, yesterday was the estimated practice report. Today would have
been the only real workout they would have done. But
that was the message from San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Man that point spread jump from four and a half
to Rams by six and a half in the last day.
So sentiment is that short week Niners are banged up,
Rams are home.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, and the Nick Bosa injury. I think still just
no matter what happens, everything is added on to that
you're already playing with kind of a you know, a
short deck in that scenario. So yeah, not adding up
good on a short week for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
No, you know, I always wonder this, and I've said
it before. It it's not so much a deep stoner thought,
but like when when Brock Purdy has two days until
a Thursday night football game and you know, Dan Byer
and all the experts are saying, well, well, we'll see
we got forty eight hours. How is he nursing that toe?
(31:26):
I mean, is someone does he have an on site
like messuse like rubbing his tootsies? Is he like heating it,
cooling it, heating it, cooling it like is it? Or
is he just chilling? I always wonder, like to what
extent when some guys like ollh, this hamstrings a little?
Is he have someone NonStop throughout the day just rubbing
them down?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I would think, so, right, I mean to that point, yes,
so he had come over to his house.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Remember when too used to go in like chambers and
stuff like, Yes, this is the top level of all
athletic performance. So I am my picture Brock Purdy from
now until Thursday has someone caressing his toe?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Sure you fantasize about it? Do you do you want him?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Like?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I mean, this is a this is a big picture
sort of deal. I think with the forty nine ers,
I don't know if it's a guarantee if they beat
the Rams on Thursday night, if he plays.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The argument could be, you know, mac Jones has looked
pretty good. Yeah, I would not be. I don't think
it's worth four and a half to six and a half.
I don't think it's a two point point spread in
Vegas move when you go from Perdy to mac Jones.
I think mac Jones has performed admirably under Kyle Shanahan's system.
I think the bigger question marks are, you know, if
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Pierce All and Jennings are banged up, that's not good
because now who's the weapons you got. You're gonna be
doing practice squad guys before you know it. Yeah, so
I think mac Jones will be all right all right. Well,
speaking of wide receivers, one of the most flashy, fun fastest,
most respected wide receivers in all the National Football League
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looked really fired up yesterday before the game, Danny Is,
we were ending our show and making way for the
odd couple. I said, look at the screen, Tyreek Hill,
he's his hands, he's fired up. He was really pumping
up the Dolphins in that sweet looking uniform, and you're like, wow,
Tyreek Hill started that game. He was being pretty productive,
(33:25):
and then you saw his leg twisted around in one
of those oh, I don't know if I want to
see that again type of plays. So I have a
thought about Tyreek Hill, and I have a thought about
where we've come with sports and injuries that I haven't
really heard many people talk about. Again, it might sound
(33:49):
like a bit of a deep drunk or high thought,
but you're gonna like it, and we're gonna get to
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Speaker 3 (34:27):
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And insensitively, I'm sure people like he was on my
fantasy team. He looked pretty fired up, and as the
insensitive memes go, he's just happy he doesn't have to
play for the Dolphins anymore. Of course, now you know
what's interesting injuries like that, timelines. I'm always so intrigued
when like when Nick Mosa went down, I'm like, oh,
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could be back by the playoffs. Then I'm thinking to
remember Aaron Rodgers when he was hurt. His whole thing
was I'm training that I'm gonna beat the odds. And
remember he had planned to come back that year had
the Jets been competitive. He had the whole Achilles thing
and he's like, yeah, I'll be ready to roll, and
You're like ready to roll. It's never been done. And
I see, like, my dude, Brandon Ayuk with no real
(35:48):
end in silent, when's he coming back? But tyreek Hill,
according to Drew Rosenhouse, right, Dan Bayer said, the plan
with the right rehab will be the beginning of the season.
Isn't that a lot that's ambitious?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Now that it's not ambitious, it's such an agent doing
his job for a guy that will be available for
teams to sign. Yeah, So that's the that's the issue
at hand is I wouldn't believe anything that Drew Rosenhaus
is saying, but I am reporting it because that is
what he said. I just think it's the surgery they
(36:22):
had today successful from what we understand. But like as
Ayuk situation was, Kyle Shanahan says, guess what there was
more damage. Are we going to find out what exactly
happened to Tyreek Hill's knee? Is it just an acl
is it multiple ligaments in that knee? I think it
behooves only Drew Rosenhaus and Tyreek Hill to say that
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he is going to be ready for the start of
next season.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Man, it did not look good. And I always wonder
in those moments, and again, God forbid this ever happens
to any of us playing Rex sports or anything you get.
You know, every so often you play softball, basketball at
the jim, you know you see guys r own age
forty something all of a sudden. Ah, I've seen guys
rounding second base and as they always say, it looks
so is there a sniper in the tree, Like some
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guy just falls in between second and third base. As
we all get older, not just pros, people have these
injuries and they're brutal. You see people twisting these Is
the adrenaline pumping so much that while it is pain,
it's more just that adrenaline shock or do you think
it's not to be morbid? Is it like a constant
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pain in that moment or is it more adrenaline in shock?
You think when Tyreek Hill is like waving and pumping
up the crowd.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Shock, right, I mean like yeah, absolutely yeah, in adrenaline
rushing through his body. I'm sure in his mind and
he's got a big ego. We all know that, but
he's thinking to himself, I got to come back from this.
He's in your mind like everything's going in fast fast
foot yeah, and you're thinking about what's to come. But
at the same time, he's trying to let the fans
(37:54):
know I'm all right, I'm gonna be back.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'm all right, and we're gonna be good in this game.
Right here, I was telling Danny about this.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
We were talking about like it sort of seemed like
one of those kind of unrealistically positive reactions like, Yeah,
I'm gonna be back from this and no time, it's
gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be good, Mike. I guess
to be a really great athlete like that, you have
to have that mentality.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes, so, But Drew rosenhows, like Dan Bayer said, he
has to be optimistic. Danny, Denise, say, you send me
a little screenshot of what like some of the guaranteed
money that's not guaranteed, or some of the money that
you might have thought, oh, he's gonna get, but there's
not a lot of guarantees for Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, I'll look up that contract info right now. But
as Bayer was saying, he's going to be available and yeah,
according to a spot track, it says his contract contains
one point eight million of per game active roster bonuses
in twenty twenty five, one point four million of which
he'll now miss out on. None of the thirty six
million owed to him in twenty twenty six is currently guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Damn. So that's that's you know, you tell, I mean,
we forget perspective sometimes because these guys make so much
money that injury, you know, could have cost Tyreek Hill
thirty forty million dollars.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
There's also there's also the fact of there's sometimes our
injury guarantees and contracts. However, with that being the final
year next year of Tyreek Hill's contract, not likely to
have injury guarantees. So remember when the Broncos benched Russell Wilson. Yes,
there was also the point of they don't want to
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get him hurt so his salary the next year doesn't
kick in and then you're on the hook for that.
With Tyreek Hill, that doesn't apply in this situation.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Tyreek Hill and Drew Rosenhaus their goal now is to
recover and put the perception out there that some new
team's going to sign him to a new deal next
year because he'll be ready to go for Week one.
It's wild. So wishing Tyreek the best. And I want
to bring up a thought that you might think, Rich,
(39:51):
Is this like some did you have an edible last night?
I did not, But this is a thought that I
feel like I don't hear enough people talk about maybe
to free your mind at night. Let me tell you,
Danny G. Maybe it's because I'm not thinking like a
sports stat nerd I'm thinking more like like a regular
dumb guy. Thought in our lifetime, the amount of Tommy
(40:12):
John surgeries, acls Achilles, these major major injuries we're seeing
in sports, is there any part of you that thinks
when these sports were developed, we have outgrown athletically the
way these sports were designed to be played, Meaning people
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weren't throwing one hundred and three miles an hour, Tommy
John surgery and all these things weren't to think because
it was just a bunch of tough guys that had
jobs in the offseason and through eighty five ninety miles
an hour. It was like, of course, Nolan Ryan, but
these guys weren't thrown like that when we were kids,
there was one Lawrence Taylor. Every team has three guys
with the size and speed and strength of Lawrence Taylor. Now,
(40:59):
so we'll continue this deep thought and more next right here,
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We're talking a lot of NFL, some wild Card baseball,
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Yo, happy Tuesday.
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And my guy, Damn Buyer, how are you d be
doing great?
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Rich? How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I want to talk about blowing up teams today when
things don't go. Great, we're going to get to that.
But before we do all that, I just this is
on my mind because I just went by the way.
I went to the liquor store, not because I'm boozing.
It's the closest place that sells these little Starbucks drinks.
And my wife on our credit card bill, she's like,
why are you going to the liquor stor every three days?
(02:29):
I'm like, no, babe, I'm not boozing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, nice cover story, I know. So I got a
little coffee drink.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
By the way, is there variable pricing at that liquor store?
Because you can buy one thing one day and it's
three nineteen, and then somebody else is working and it's
three ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
The little crappy Starbucks can that should not be anything
more than a couple bucks four to fifty.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
There'll be four to fifty. Then tomorrow somebody knew we'll
be working there, it'll be five ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Trust me, And then three the next day. Oh yeah,
they got you by the you know what, they just
had a look at you. I lived in Times Square.
I know that sounds crazy, but for a year and
a half of my life my wife and I lived
in Times Square because I was doing radio and television
in mid tall Manhattan, and it only made sense to
live where I was working because I was going back
and forth a lot to the studio. I'd go to
(03:15):
the deli across the street and get like a bacon,
egg and cheese on a bagel, and they made a
different price every time. And I finally said to the
guy I live across the street, I'm local, and he's like, oh, okay,
And I had a better price from that point on
because they say they you know, they see tourists all
day and they're like, bacon, egg and cheese, twelve bucks.
That'll be uh ninety four dollars exactly, and then you
(03:39):
know they'd be like, eh, five bucks. I want the
local discount. So here's where I have a dumb question,
and then we'll get to all my deep thoughts today.
Thanks for hanging Cavino's swimming in a sonote somewhere and
based on our Mets Yankees bet half his vacation was
on me. So enjoy Cavino, Go get a massage. I
(04:01):
go to get my little can of coffee, and I
see they have scratchers now I'm not a scratch off
lottery guy. My grandfather was, I think every World War two.
The old guy from the old the timey times was
I've never bought a scratcher maybe in twenty years. But
they had a ten dollars ticket and it was said
million dollars and they were forty nine ers. It was
(04:23):
like a big forty nine ers logo. And I said,
you know what, let me get one of those, boy,
And the guy goes, ooh for the lottery it's cash only. Now,
I'm honestly it's on my mind that that one ticket
that I couldn't buy, that I was going to buy
is a big winner.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's your destiny, my destiny.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I almost want to be like, please, can you put
that one? I almost want to call him during the break.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
And they put it aside, go to the ATM, pay
the five dollars ATM fee just to get the cash
out to buy that just scratch off a millionaire.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh you know what they could be? You never know,
You never know. All right, well, hey, welcome to Coveno
and Rich. Those are the dumb things I think of,
and there's plenty more today. We're gonna have a lot
of fun. But as we watched Wildcard Baseball, congrats to
the Tigers. Schooble did what Schoobl's supposed to do. Right,
You're you're cy young, your ace. Look at that. And
(05:12):
the ninth they caught the Guardians in a little pickle
between vision and home. It was, you know, it's playoff baseball.
Two to one, Schooball going seven and two thirds, which
is again what an ace should do. So congrats the
detroit they're up one to oh maybe they get back
on track in the postseason. Now I saw that the
(05:33):
Cubbies beating the Padres two to one, and you'll have
Wildcard Baseball all day. Sort of bumm because part of
me assume that this week, Danny, you and I we'd
be battling Mets Dodgers. But that didn't happen because the
Mets had every opportunity on planet Earth to back into
the playoffs. The Reds were not some powerhouse team. When
(05:54):
your team fails and you know, neglects to make the postseason,
if some other team went eighteen and two over their
final twenty and it's like, what are you gonna do?
They were just that good. They were inspired, like like
the Cleveland Guardians. They just got so good at the
end of the year. Can't You can't help yourself but say,
(06:15):
and they deserved it. The Reds did nothing to deserve this.
It's almost like the consolation prize for the Mets sucking
so bad over their last eighty games. The Reds were
forty and forty. They're a five hundred team. In fact,
Danny g you sent me a meme yesterday that aggravated
me even more. Do you want to read some of
these fun facts about this Cincinnati Reds team that if
your Dodgers don't sweep immediately, you should be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, let me pull that up here.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think it was like, not one pitcher with fifteen
or more wins, Not one batter batted two seventy or higher.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, no qualifying batter hit two seventy or above. No
batter hit twenty five homers. No pitcher won fifteen games.
No pitcher on the Reds notch two hundred strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So it's even more embarrassing when you look at what
Steve Cohen tried to put together with David Stearns in
New York and then Mets fell short. I will not
make this all about my Mets, I promise you. But
it's just the latest example of a team that spends
a lot of money and it doesn't work out the
way the fan base and ownership wanted. Here's the question.
(07:20):
At the trade deadline, we remember what was the big
thing up. Mets and Padres won the trade deadline. Mets
got Hellsley, they got some relievers, they got Mullins in
center field, and at that time I was like Mets
made some improvements. Those guys all ended up sucking. A
major case of the sucking queens is that David Stearn's fault.
He made the moves Mendoza. Do you blame the manager?
(07:42):
Is that who falls on the sword. I have met
fan friends that say things like, well know you got
to do no, gotta blow the whole thing up. Everyone's
gotta go. So I want to start there today and
no way we will get to Tyreek Kale. I have
thoughts on him, and I think you look pretty happy
for god I got injured. I think he's happy that
his days in Miami are done. He'll start next year
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and I guarantee it's not there. There's updates with him.
Drew Rosenhaus has given some updates on Tyreek Hill. But
when your team stink stanny if the Lakers, you know,
are a low seed in the playoffs, early exit, and
of course a lot of people in LA will say
things like you got a new coach, revamp, knew everything.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, this has happened in recent years.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Actually, do you subscribe to this or do you say no, no, no,
you don't need to rebuild or blow the whole thing up,
You just need to revamp.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Depends on the leadership of the team.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
If it seems like it's rotten to the core, then
that's when, you know, fans with higher IQs would be like, well,
something's got to change from the top down. But if
you have all the right pieces in place and there
was just a lot of underperformance going on, then it's
a different story.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, call me naive. I really feel like sometimes
you just have bad luck. I know, you say bad
luck for three four months since June when the Mets
stunk like third worst team in baseball. That's a long
period of stank stink. That's like the Great Stink of
eighteen fifty eight, which we've talked about before. But does
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there come a point where you say, hey, man, the
talents there, run it back. It's just everything went wrong.
They had no comeback victories. Only team in baseball this
year to not have a ninth inning comeback. That's insane.
What are you gonna do? You just signed Wan Soto.
Lindor is clearly the fan favorite. Everyone's gonna want you
to resign Pete Alonzo and give him the money that
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he clearly has now earned. Nimo's signed for like a decade.
What do you do? Do you not run it back
with a core of a team. Do you really start saying, well,
they didn't make the postseason, they only won eighty three games,
let's blow it all up.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's it's seriously is situation by situation? Because of what
you just laid out, you would think, I think that
the change that you could make would be at the
managerial spot.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And then so what they did. They immediately said, oh,
Carlos Mendoza will be back. So what would have been
the sacrificial lamb so to speak for the fan base? Right, like, well,
all right, they're doing something. You think of all these
bone heads and queens that I root with, right, yeah,
Mendoza's gone and Sterns gets a little slap on the wrist, like, yeah,
you're warning, warning Sterns. We know you rebuilt Milwaukee, but hey, hey,
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none of that happened. So you're especially with Roco Belldell Madelli,
Bochie Ron Washington, aren't a lot of you know, there's
manager options. Plus guys were not even thinking about to
immediately say Mendoza's coming back.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned the Brewers, and as a
Brewers fan, not nearly as much of a Mets fan
as you are. But I go back to two thousand
and eight when this team was trying to end their
playoff drought from nineteen eighty two and then everything going
for them and all of a sudden they hit this slide.
And Ned Yost had a lot more equity within that
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organization than Carlos Mendoza does with the Mets. But the
Brewers are trying to end a twenty six year postseason drought.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You're thinking about your baseball go but robbin Yelt's name
any long, Yes, at that time.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
You know, and you're thinking at that point, like, we
can't miss this opportunity. The change that we need to
make because we're sliding. Is they were competing with the
Mets that year for the wild card. When you're looking
at that physition, they made the decision to fire Yost
because if they didn't make the playoffs, he wasn't going
to be back the next year and you needed to
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salvage something. So Dale Swam ended up taking over and
they saved the season. They ended up making the postseason
and ending the drought, and everyone was happy. The outcome
was though, if you don't make the playoffs, Yost has
gone anyway, so let's do it now. I'm surprised it
didn't happen with the Mets because of the slide that
they were at, and then it didn't happen, then like
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to make the move. Move to say we need to
make a change is probably the reason why they are
keeping him for next year, which doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I assume he's very popular with the players, but then again,
but then again, like maybe that's not necessarily always the
best thing, right.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, And I get like the like the Marlins lined
up the weekend to beat you guys. Oh yeah, like
you know, like they set up their pitching staff the
way it is. But there is something that I think
is so poetic and not in a good way for
you for the Mets to not score any runs on
the final day of the season, and so at that
point something has to be done. And so that's why
(12:34):
I'm not saying you can't blow it up with everything
that you've got committed, but you had to at least
make a change to signify this is why it happened.
This is what we've identified. And maybe that perception may
not be reality, but it feels like you're at least
addressing the problem at a low a low cost of
firing a manager, which happens a lot in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It's it's a low cost, you know move and a
fan reactive move to get rid of a manager. It
might not be you know, always right, Manards is not playing,
the GM's not playing. When when like Danny g when
Stearns goes out during the trade deadline and you know,
acquires bullpen help and Mullins in center field at that time,
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you even agree that they were like man METSA made
some good moves.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I saw headlines that said the Padres and the Mets
were the trade deadline winners.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So if he made the moves that made sense on paper,
could you then blame the GM or is that like,
because now you're saying, like, well, the GM's not responsible,
but we're bringing back the manager. He's not responsible. Who's responsible?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Then?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And again, don't make it about my Mets. If you
don't want to, just think of your own team. If
your team is not doing well, do you say who's
the core players? These guys are under contract and it
know what, it makes me think of annoying fan pet Peeves,
which is where I sort of want to go with
this because there's so many people that love to say,
get rid of this guy, get rid of that guy,
(13:57):
fire this guy, do this, And the answer is never
simply that contracts, no trade causes, all these things are there,
and get rid of Nimmo. Yeah he's locked up until
twenty thirty something. Are you gonna trump find a trade
partner and then approve it through him? And then who
who's playing outfield for you? What do you the guy
(14:19):
that you thought was gonna be captain for the Mets?
Lin d'Or fan favorite. Every kid's got a number twelve shirt,
you're gonna say goodbye Francisco. Let me find another elite shortstop.
The Mets have so much talent it's disgusting. Offensively how
they couldn't get the job done. Is it safe to
say sometimes you just quote run it back and hope
you have better luck.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, I would say this. I think this year what
should have been the Mets last year and last year
should have been the Mets this year. Yeah, So if
you want to go, I'll go with ball don't lie theory.
So the Mets shouldn't have made it to the NLCS
last year. I mean, they probably shouldn't have beaten the
Brewers in having the Roics that they did. That was
also a year last year that I thought that the
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we thought as a collective group that give David Sterns
a year they weren't going to be spending a lot
of money, and it was going to be leading up
to twenty twenty five. I would take as the ball
don't lie theory that in that case, if that's what
the Mets are going to do, I just don't think.
The reason why I thought earlier you make the change
at the managerial spot is because I don't know how
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much equity he built up last year. But if you
want to look at it from a twenty thousand feet view,
I think that that way of last year should have
been this year, then this year should have been last year.
It's probably the way you rationalize it if you're Steve Cohen.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just can't wrap my head around it. As a fan.
I feel like today when I watched Danny g and
Bow and Bersch and everyone here with their Dodger shirts on,
and I know Covino's probably sitting, like I said, in
a lounge chair with his Yankees, you know, swimsuit on
his pinstripe little five inch speedo.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
But it hasn't everything like like I know, like the
pet Alnzo situation hasn't worked out. But this is what happens.
Like you got your GM that you've wanted for years
and years and years, right, You've now signed Juan Soto
in a.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
This is supposed to be it, and then you know
you didn't do.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Though it's just one year.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Like you have all these things that are thought to
be long term decisions, and so I guess that would
be the reason to not overreact or to tell your
buddies to to not blow it up. These are guys
that were brought in because over the long haul, you
feel that you will have more success than you than
you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I mean you you get sodo, Like you said,
maybe just last year should have been this year. This
year should have been last year. But if you guys
have any other annoying fan, pet Peeves, I would love
to hear him because one of my one of mine
that always bothers me, Danny. I know. I see with
Dave Roberts and your Dodgers, people have to be like
fire and it's like, all right, fire blank and tell
(17:03):
me who then.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, And in a lot of cases nowadays with analytics
in the front office, is holding so much power over
a manager. Dave Roberts a lot of people think is
just a pawn for Friedman, So really he has job security.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's really interesting you would say that because I read
an article today in the New York Post. Sorry to
be so Mets heavy, but it had to do with well,
maybe Mendoz is safe Danny and Dan Byer because he's
well liked and he was really just putting the lineup
out there that David Stearns in the front office was
telling him to put out there. Sure, it's like you know,
falling the sword for what our decisions?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Do you give him credit for last year? Do you
give Mendoza credit for last year's run.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They did last year by saying when the Mets started
out so bad and he was you know, he kept
that cool demeanor. He got credit last year for that.
I don't know. I just think it's very interesting to
see New York fans react when they spend so much money.
When you look at payrolls, the teams that spend money,
they're all in there, except for the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies,
all the you know, they're all there.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Look, I look at the Seahawks, and the Pete Carroll
era in Seattle is one that will be remembered fondly
in later years and still to this day because of
the Super Bowl and the success in the places that
they reached that they never did.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
But you can't tell me that the.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Past five to eight years of the Pete Carroll era
in Seattle, while it was winning football most of the time,
winning record, that it was inspiring football, things got old.
Things got like stale in a way. And that's holding
on to holding on to a coach that brought your
team to the greatest of heights. There probably wasn't a
(18:43):
reason to fire Pete Carroll when they did or to
move on from Pete Carroll, but you understood the temperature
of your organization at that time, and ownership did make
the right move and it's now going to likely payoff
as I think the Seahawks are a top ten team
this season and Mike McDonald seems to have that defense right,
you know, in a good place. But they didn't bottom
out retch, they didn't go three to fourteen. Yeah, no,
(19:05):
they just yeah, they were just there just was nothing there.
So that's when you have to make the decision. So
that's when you are ownership or that's where you are
the front office. You really have to have a sense
overall of is it blowing it up, is it not
blowing it up, is it tearing it down?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Do you just need a new voice?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Because even just with with the Seahawks on paper, it
wouldn't have looked like Pete Carroll was worthy of being dismissed.
Yet everything that you saw for the past three seasons
were probably reasons why he should have been dismissed.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Then you hear about people that well, they you know,
they they couldn't read the room, and they got rid
of clubhouse guys, guys that really bonded the team and
you and you know, over a long season, you forget
these clubhouse guys, these locker room guys in football, they
may have more value than you think. I heard like JD.
Martinez and oh my god, Iglesias was a big deal
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for the Mets and kept things light. So every team's
got those guys. Maybe you don't value them enough, and
I don't know. It just it's interesting to see your
team on the outside looking in when there's just so
much talent. It's frustrating all in all sports for that matter,
it really is.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Nego Horner a sacrifice fly bottom of the eighth inning,
comes now up three to one on the Padres, bottom
of the eighth.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, I guess you know, I saved myself money because
I probably would have tried to go to one of
these games. Now I'm doing the rationalization, save money playoff games.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Who wants to spend all enjoy it? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
And Rich really quick to tie in a couple of
teams who played last night. The Dolphins responded the way
we thought they would. We saw them play hard against
the Bills. We saw them play hard last night. And
then I heard Ben Maller on our Network screaming about
how the Bengals gave up on coach Zach Taylor. So
there's obviously injury involved in that situation. But there's a
couple of teams like the Titans, the Bengals, Panthers.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
For me, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
From the quarterback himself that the Titans are s Yeah.
Quarterback himself told me. I was like, what with NFL.
You're talking about your Mets. With NFL such shorter season, obviously,
Oh yeah, what do you do in that situation? Do
you do you blow it up halfway through and try
to salvage something with an assistant coach taking over, or
do you wait until the offseason. I mean, if your
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team's ass, I mean, we're keeping a book right now,
we ask yeah, I mean if your ass, I mean
you saw your Raiders Antonio Pierce came in to try
to save the day, but that doesn't work out long term.
All the time, the NFL much shorter leash because you're
talking about seventeen games, not one sixty two or eighty two.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
You know, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
A different mindset, you know. I just want to make
one more analogy and then we'll move on. I think,
whether it's baseball football, basketball, hockey, every sport where you
have a passionate fan base, especially where again one last
Mets note, they broke their attendance record. The fans really
thought you got Soto. They believed in what this team
was building. So you break attendance records. There needs to
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be accountability. Danny g Danbar. You guys are dads. When
your kid does something, especially as they get older, when
they do something and misbehave, they have to be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's just yeah, fifteen minutes in the dog crate.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yep, that's what Danny does. The little CoA put him
in the dog crate. It's a large dog crate. Don't
nobody like when my kids, you know, Coach Rich here,
When my kids mope around, I say, hey, listen, buddy,
you gotta put I always say energy and effort. That's
what Coach Rich wants. Energy, effort and just play and
have fun. Energy and effort. When that kid's moping around,
I'm like, hey, man, Then you ask me, hey, coach,
(22:27):
could I play shortstop or bet? First? No, you didn't
put in the effort, effort and energy, buddy boy. So
I think we want to see accountability and when your
team poops to bed, and it's like, oh, don't worry,
coaches will be back, and oh the core is still here.
Fans don't like that. They want accountability. It's like it's
like a husband that goes to Vegas for the weekend
(22:49):
and you know, bang some girls spearm at Rhino and
then his wife's like, oh, honey, you silly goose, like
he should be held accountable. I'm not saying that's a
true story. It happened to me. I'm just saying that's
happened to someone. Sure, allays will be boys and boys. Yeah,
very descriptive, you know. And then and then lost seven
hundred dollars on roulette that night. What I'm kidding very
specific titles. Well, hey, your thoughts on blowing up the
(23:12):
team or running it back? But coming up next we'll
take thoughts on that Tyreek kill. Last night we watched
a little double doozy the second game more of a
snoozy it was, I mean, and by the way, have
you noticed every time I make a bet and don't
put the bet in what are we like five for
five into that? Ye?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah? Five? And oh you didn't put actual money on.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Under forty under forty nine and a half. We hit
that with Jets Dolphins by a point and a half. Thanks,
and I said Broncos minus one and a half. We
should have just done a straight bet on that. But
last night you saw some Monday night football. We'll break
it down, break it, break it down all next right here,
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(26:11):
on my mets for the year. We We're done.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Good until Covino returns tomorrow. You know he's gonna have
it in for you.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Do I do like a jerk move and payment like singles?
I do, I go get a Brinks truck of.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Quarters to Actually I went to the bank when I
was on Ben Mallers Show back in like twenty sixteen.
I went to the bank when I owed him a
Laker Clipper bet and I took all the money in nickels.
I got boxes of nickels and I piled up the
boxes of nickels to pay.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh see he was not happy.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, I don't know, because now then he's gonna bit
and complain that he has to then go to the bank,
and you know what, I'll just be a man. Can
I get a big check? Should I at least make
it dramatic and try to find like one of those
big checks, like I'm a Ed McMahon, But then again,
someone told me Ed McMahon never actually had those big checks,
one of those like.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Man, are you down for a discount?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Like we were talking with the listeners on your Carl's
page about having you do something to where you could
get like five hundred dollars off the amount ode.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I could be bought.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Do you know me?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What do you want me to do? What? Run around
the street naked or something wild?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
My suggestion was here on Ventura Boulevard during an entire
commercial break. You hold a big Yankees rules sign with
bells and whistles and either that or a met stink sign.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh he just Cavino just went a vacation. He's paying
for his daughter's sweet sixteen and his ac went out. Cavino,
He's probably gonna try to swindle more money out anybuddy. Yes,
all right, you know what, Let's go to our buddy
Dan Byer for an update, and then we're going to
talk to some tyree killed dB. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
My friend Danny Rich Sam Spot.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We got a final at Wrigley, but before it went final,
this happened.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Kelly swings and it's a.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
High five ball.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
D put center field, going back sheets at the track.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
They're the line.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Gomb Cops take the league.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Carson Kelly went back to back with Saya Suzuki. Cubs
led to to one. They added insurance in the eighth
on a Nico Horner sackfly. They just beat the Padres
three to one to get Game one of their National
League wild Card Series. It's a best of three. Copies
win three to one.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Look at Danny g smiling. You hate the Padres?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Huh? I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Are you smiling?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Ear to ear?
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Come on, many Machato. You don't wan have to be
happy anyway.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
It's interesting because the Brewers fared better against the Cubs
this year than they did with the Padres. But you
would think, do you want to face your rival? Do
you want your rival to lose?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Three to one, Cubs get that victory. A lower scoring
affair earlier today in Cleveland between the Guardians and Tigers.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Scobel drops his hands into his motion. The O two
is swinging a mess. Who change up? Gets John Kinzen
Noel to start the eighth. Fourteen strikeouts for Trek Scobel.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And seven and two thirds on the Tigers Radio Network,
a career high. It's out of frame tranchise high in
the postseason with fourteen ks, Tigers beat the Guardians two
to one. Cleveland had a runner on third with no
one out in the ninth and the Tigers got out
of it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Man.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, they got Jose Ramirez in a rundown after a
comebacker to the picture with one out and that kind
of saved the day for the Guardians. Red Sox and
Yankees coming up six Eastern, Reds Dodgers nine Eastern. Ron Washington,
who had to take a leave of absence this year
because of health issues for the Angels, will not return
next to her as their skipper. Neither will interim manager
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Ray Montgomery. And here's an update on Brock Purty for you.
The quarterback said today he would not be able to
play if they played the Rams tonight because of his
toe injury. Says he's got two more days, did not practice,
but John lynchaid earlier today on cambr that party will
likely be questionable for that game against la as will
Juwan Jennings and Ricky pearsall and ah and Drew Rosenhouse
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says that his client, Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill, had
successful surgery to repair his injured knee and says the
realistic goal is for Hill to be by the start
of the season. Danny's Raiders are putting Colton Miller on
irs the tackles suffered a high ankle sprain with a
hairline fracture in his leg and that lost to the
Bears this past weekend. And some sad news from your
alma mater, Former Syracuse hoopstar Lawrence Moutin died at the
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age of fifty three.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Rich back to you, yo, Dan Bayer, Did I hear
you correctly? And please say no. Ricky Piercell and Juwan
Jennings both questionable.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Likely to be That was the message from John Lynch.
No practice for them.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Well, short week, maybe they just get a little rest.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, yesterday was the estimated practice report. Today would have
been the only real workout they would have done. But
that was the message from San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Man that point spread jump from four and a half
to Rams by six and a half in the last day.
So sentiment is that short week Niners are banged up,
Rams are home.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah, and the Nick Bosa injury. I think still just
no matter what happens, everything is added on to that
you're already playing with kind of a you know, a
short deck in that scenario. So yeah, not adding up
good on a short week for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
No, you know, I always wonder this, and I've said
it before. It it's not so much a deep stoner thought,
but like when when Brock Purdy has two days until
a Thursday night football game and you know, Dan Byer
and all the experts are saying, well, well, we'll see
we got forty eight hours. How is he nursing that toe?
(31:26):
I mean, is someone does he have an on site
like messuse like rubbing his tootsies? Is he like heating it,
cooling it, heating it, cooling it like is it? Or
is he just chilling? I always wonder, like to what
extent when some guys like ollh, this hamstrings a little?
Is he have someone NonStop throughout the day just rubbing
them down?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I would think, so, right, I mean to that point, yes,
so he had come over to his house.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Remember when too used to go in like chambers and
stuff like, Yes, this is the top level of all
athletic performance. So I am my picture Brock Purdy from
now until Thursday has someone caressing his toe?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Sure you fantasize about it? Do you do you want him?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Like?
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I mean, this is a this is a big picture
sort of deal. I think with the forty nine ers,
I don't know if it's a guarantee if they beat
the Rams on Thursday night, if he plays.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The argument could be, you know, mac Jones has looked
pretty good. Yeah, I would not be. I don't think
it's worth four and a half to six and a half.
I don't think it's a two point point spread in
Vegas move when you go from Perdy to mac Jones.
I think mac Jones has performed admirably under Kyle Shanahan's system.
I think the bigger question marks are, you know, if
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Pierce All and Jennings are banged up, that's not good
because now who's the weapons you got. You're gonna be
doing practice squad guys before you know it. Yeah, so
I think mac Jones will be all right all right. Well,
speaking of wide receivers, one of the most flashy, fun fastest,
most respected wide receivers in all the National Football League
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looked really fired up yesterday before the game, Danny Is,
we were ending our show and making way for the
odd couple. I said, look at the screen, Tyreek Hill,
he's his hands, he's fired up. He was really pumping
up the Dolphins in that sweet looking uniform, and you're like, wow,
Tyreek Hill started that game. He was being pretty productive,
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and then you saw his leg twisted around in one
of those oh, I don't know if I want to
see that again type of plays. So I have a
thought about Tyreek Hill, and I have a thought about
where we've come with sports and injuries that I haven't
really heard many people talk about. Again, it might sound
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like a bit of a deep drunk or high thought,
but you're gonna like it, and we're gonna get to
it next right here, Covin on Rich, Fox Sports Radio,
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feel bad for the guy. Tyreek Hill's leg basically snapped
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following his reception they called for a cart.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
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Dolphin players coming over to the hand. The whole came
over right out. That's not a good sign.
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And insensitively, I'm sure people like he was on my
fantasy team. He looked pretty fired up, and as the
insensitive memes go, he's just happy he doesn't have to
play for the Dolphins anymore. Of course, now you know
what's interesting injuries like that, timelines. I'm always so intrigued
when like when Nick Mosa went down, I'm like, oh,
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could be back by the playoffs. Then I'm thinking to
remember Aaron Rodgers when he was hurt. His whole thing
was I'm training that I'm gonna beat the odds. And
remember he had planned to come back that year had
the Jets been competitive. He had the whole Achilles thing
and he's like, yeah, I'll be ready to roll, and
You're like ready to roll. It's never been done. And
I see, like, my dude, Brandon Ayuk with no real
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end in silent, when's he coming back? But tyreek Hill,
according to Drew Rosenhouse, right, Dan Bayer said, the plan
with the right rehab will be the beginning of the season.
Isn't that a lot that's ambitious?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Now that it's not ambitious, it's such an agent doing
his job for a guy that will be available for
teams to sign. Yeah, So that's the that's the issue
at hand is I wouldn't believe anything that Drew Rosenhaus
is saying, but I am reporting it because that is
what he said. I just think it's the surgery they
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had today successful from what we understand. But like as
Ayuk situation was, Kyle Shanahan says, guess what there was
more damage. Are we going to find out what exactly
happened to Tyreek Hill's knee? Is it just an acl
is it multiple ligaments in that knee? I think it
behooves only Drew Rosenhaus and Tyreek Hill to say that
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he is going to be ready for the start of
next season.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Man, it did not look good. And I always wonder
in those moments, and again, God forbid this ever happens
to any of us playing Rex sports or anything you get.
You know, every so often you play softball, basketball at
the jim, you know you see guys r own age
forty something all of a sudden. Ah, I've seen guys
rounding second base and as they always say, it looks
so is there a sniper in the tree, Like some
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guy just falls in between second and third base. As
we all get older, not just pros, people have these
injuries and they're brutal. You see people twisting these Is
the adrenaline pumping so much that while it is pain,
it's more just that adrenaline shock or do you think
it's not to be morbid? Is it like a constant
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pain in that moment or is it more adrenaline in shock?
You think when Tyreek Hill is like waving and pumping
up the crowd.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Shock, right, I mean like yeah, absolutely yeah, in adrenaline
rushing through his body. I'm sure in his mind and
he's got a big ego. We all know that, but
he's thinking to himself, I got to come back from this.
He's in your mind like everything's going in fast fast
foot yeah, and you're thinking about what's to come. But
at the same time, he's trying to let the fans
(37:54):
know I'm all right, I'm gonna be back.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'm all right, and we're gonna be good in this game.
Right here, I was telling Danny about this.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
We were talking about like it sort of seemed like
one of those kind of unrealistically positive reactions like, Yeah,
I'm gonna be back from this and no time, it's
gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be good, Mike. I guess
to be a really great athlete like that, you have
to have that mentality.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes, so, But Drew rosenhows, like Dan Bayer said, he
has to be optimistic. Danny, Denise, say, you send me
a little screenshot of what like some of the guaranteed
money that's not guaranteed, or some of the money that
you might have thought, oh, he's gonna get, but there's
not a lot of guarantees for Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, I'll look up that contract info right now. But
as Bayer was saying, he's going to be available and yeah,
according to a spot track, it says his contract contains
one point eight million of per game active roster bonuses
in twenty twenty five, one point four million of which
he'll now miss out on. None of the thirty six
million owed to him in twenty twenty six is currently guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Damn. So that's that's you know, you tell, I mean,
we forget perspective sometimes because these guys make so much
money that injury, you know, could have cost Tyreek Hill
thirty forty million dollars.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
There's also there's also the fact of there's sometimes our
injury guarantees and contracts. However, with that being the final
year next year of Tyreek Hill's contract, not likely to
have injury guarantees. So remember when the Broncos benched Russell Wilson. Yes,
there was also the point of they don't want to
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get him hurt so his salary the next year doesn't
kick in and then you're on the hook for that.
With Tyreek Hill, that doesn't apply in this situation.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Tyreek Hill and Drew Rosenhaus their goal now is to
recover and put the perception out there that some new
team's going to sign him to a new deal next
year because he'll be ready to go for Week one.
It's wild. So wishing Tyreek the best. And I want
to bring up a thought that you might think, Rich,
(39:51):
Is this like some did you have an edible last night?
I did not, But this is a thought that I
feel like I don't hear enough people talk about maybe
to free your mind at night. Let me tell you,
Danny G. Maybe it's because I'm not thinking like a
sports stat nerd I'm thinking more like like a regular
dumb guy. Thought in our lifetime, the amount of Tommy
(40:12):
John surgeries, acls Achilles, these major major injuries we're seeing
in sports, is there any part of you that thinks
when these sports were developed, we have outgrown athletically the
way these sports were designed to be played, Meaning people
(40:38):
weren't throwing one hundred and three miles an hour, Tommy
John surgery and all these things weren't to think because
it was just a bunch of tough guys that had
jobs in the offseason and through eighty five ninety miles
an hour. It was like, of course, Nolan Ryan, but
these guys weren't thrown like that when we were kids,
there was one Lawrence Taylor. Every team has three guys
with the size and speed and strength of Lawrence Taylor. Now,
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