September 3, 2025 • 41 mins
C&R dive into the big story that's engulfing Kawhi Leonard & Steve Ballmer! An alleged 28 million in free money given to Kawhi by Ballmer to circumvent the NBA salary cap! If true, should the punishment be even more severe than how it's set now? Plus, a wicked "cross-up" after a Yankees grand salami!
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Speaker 2 (02:20):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Iowa? Sam? What up? Danny G? What up?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Dan Byer?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What up? Fox Sports Radio Nation? Hope your day's better
than Kawhi and Steve Balmer's day before we get into
midweek major and all the fun today. That is the
hottest story going. And you and I were doing our
Patreon show earlier today as it was developing this Pablo
Tory man and he closed the book on Belichick and
jeorde On Hudson. He's like, ooh, my next fascination is
(02:44):
Kawhi Leonard and Balmer. Well, he's doing some reporting, right,
but her to lean into certain things pretty hard, the
jeorde Don Hudson thing, the Belichick thing. You referenced that
who was on that harder than him? Now he's unveiled
this Kawhi Leonard story where he reportedly was paid twenty
(03:05):
eight million dollars for a no show job. That's the headline.
You're like, what does that mean? A no show job
with the Clippers. Didn't ren don't get that same contract
with the Angels. Yeah, but it was de Yeah wow.
But this was a way to get around the NBA
salary cap. Now we're gonna make this clear. We might
use the word loophole, but it wasn't a loophole at all.
This is not legal in the NBA. It's not like
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some crafty way to get paid. It's not like deferring
your payment like sho heyo tani. This is not like
a college donor decided to do something nice, right right.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, there's a fine of up to four point five
million dollars for a first offense.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
This was a way to circumvent. That's the fancy word
to go around the NBA salary cap. You wrote that
word down because Big MIC's at it, because I wrote
it down to I got to hear in the articles
all over the place, guys, it's circumventing. Tory laid out
the alleged scandal. Scandal. Isn't that your old hairdresser? Yeah, scandal.
Gandle used to have rich a nice feathered haircut. He
(04:03):
laid out to Scandal on his program Toilet Find. Scandle
and it says that he has direct quotes from legal
documents that made the argument that Leonard was paid twenty
eight million through a company owned by Bamber, who owns
the Clippers. If you don't know, to essentially do nothing. Now,
that's a pretty sweet deal, except it's not allowed in
(04:24):
the NBA. Bomber's accused of using the agreement as a
way to pay Leonard more than his contract would allow, which,
if true, is a violation of the NBA rules. Now
my understanding is it was for some like made up
bunk company where Kahi Leonard never didate like a tree.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Plant, tree plant, tree planting.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You tell me you couldn't get Kawhi in front of
a green screen just to say one time, like, hey
it's me Kawhi Leonard. So it was planning the street
follow right, like, hey, there's a salary cap in the NBA.
But look, I want Kawhi Leonard so bad. I'm gonna
figure out a way to get him on the team.
Give him as much money as possible, but pay him
an extra twenty eight million dollars to solidify his time
(05:05):
and place with the Clippers through a company that doesn't
even really matter or exists, and the ramification was if
he's only on the clippers, right, and Pablotry's all over this,
and like Danny g just said, if this is true,
major finds suspensions like that's.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Not a lass of one first round pick and the
possibility of avoiding contracts that are involved in any circumvention.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
How do you view this? Do you view this as, Hey,
he's just a rule breaker. Good for him, he got
what he wanted. Hey, there's a few draft picks. He's
still got Kawhi. How do you view something like this?
There's two types of people, Oh, players and haters. Thank you,
Taylor Shift. No, you've said that before. Rule breakers people
(05:50):
that are like, you know, rules are you know, a
mild suggestion? And then other people that are like, I'm
a rules guy. I thought you're gonna say pink or
red starburst guys. Pink, by the way, both are good
blue cheese, or or ranch both are good blue cheese. Blah.
There's two types. Oh, I'm not answering. There are two
(06:11):
cards of love that you want to know. There are
cads love. There's two we do that we do that
in Philadelphia outside of garbageane Once in a while, there's
two types of people, and those people are as rich
said rules people, rules people, Twizzlers people or red vines. No,
(06:32):
there's two types of people, Keith anders or domatically rules
are rule breakers. I'm a rules follower. I am. I
believe in rules. I believe in structure. I believe that
there's a set of rules in play to keep idiots
in line. I may like Steve Mom, I'm gonna push
the rules until you tell me why. Pushing the rules
(06:53):
is not rule breaking. You push the rules, you you
dance on the line a little bit. This is stomping
over the line. This is just straight up. You paid
a guy twenty million dollars extra to guarantee that he's
on your team. I have a question when, when in
fact there's a salary cap for a reason, when someone
is guilty of such an offense, are you guys going
(07:16):
to respect it more? Of Bomber and Choir like got him,
got us? Here's the thing they would have won? If
they win, then you're like, yeah, it was worth it.
Who cares? He made it happen? Yeah? That really that's
winning solves everything? What they say, right, that would happen
here too. Yeah, I'm saying, do you admire the Yeah,
(07:37):
I did it. It could be, you know, performance enhancing drugs.
It could be Remember the dude a couple years back
was a Juicy smile A yeah, but the guy's still denying.
It's I saw the documentary on Netflix. He's innocent, he says,
still denies all his actions. You know what, it reminds
me double down on a brand new documentary. He's actually
worth the watch. Let me, can I just say something? Yeah,
I never gave a deadly squat about Juice. I really didn't.
(08:02):
I was like, what a pathetic story, what a loser.
The documentary where he doubles down, the new one that
just came out, it's actually pretty good. So it does
make you think that he was being boozled by the
media a little bit. A guy like Juicy Smalay doubles
down on lives.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know it's a weird analogy, but you and I
both watch Love Is Blind. There was a dude that
went on that show and he had like girlfriends at home,
and he came to the reunion and he's like, yeah,
I don't know what you want to tell you. I lied,
I got be ouches, Like he was like straight up, like,
YO caught. So I ask you, when someone's caught, athlete, musician, politician,
whatever the case may be, do you admire the forthright, like, hey,
(08:42):
I tried to get away with it and I got caught.
Or do you think Balmer Kawhi are gonna try to
be es their way out of this and make us
feel stupid. It's it's case by case, man, because speaking
to documentaries, if you watch America's team, Jerry Jones seemed
to break all the rules in the NFL, but he
just paved a new path. He's like, yeah, rules are
for fools. Watch me show everybody how to make real
(09:03):
money in this league. And he changed the league forever.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The short sighted.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
People were very short sighted. He's like, I'm a businessman.
He changed how the game worked and how they made money.
He changed the league.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
This is different than that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It is it is, but he did break the rules.
So that's what I'm saying. It's case by case. That
was for the greater good of everybody. It seemed to
benefit everybody. I don't see how this benefits anyone but
Kawhi Leonard and his pocket. It's not even benefiting the Clippers.
They're not winning with him. You know, he's not even
playing all that often. And if they really wanted to
(09:36):
create a loophole, rich is right, where was Kawhi with
his fake bootleg local feeling advertisement of Kawhi Leonard? And
these are the trees that I'm playing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
More attention to it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And there should be something in his back pocket. We're like, no,
here he is, we have the proof right here, he's
a spokesman.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
They got to Yeah, but once they found out Bomber
owned that supposed company.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I wonder what tipped off Pablo Tory to like further
investigate this. Oh, it was the janitor from Billy Madison. Yeah. Now, seriously,
someone had to have a scoop and they fed him
this scoop. Unless he just somehow came across these documents
or he had a hunch, I don't know. Good for him, though,
it's a it's a big story. Is becoming the uh
(10:27):
Ernie anstis now there's a lack of actual investigative reporting
in today's world, right, So you got to give him
credit for that. And as the story develops, it may
benefit the NBA in the future because if anyone else
is up to this, it'll put a stop. I'm sure
there's a lot of people shaking in their boots right now, like,
(10:47):
oh man, I hope I'm not next, because maybe he's
just the first of many. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
The fake company, by the way, is called Aspiration.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm an ass operation. I'm with these bids. I grab
a lot of ass butirations. I'm always fascinated. But trees,
I'm always fascinated how we tend to give more credit
to people than they deserve. Sometimes, like Cavino, you always say,
your dad will say things like, yeah, I heard on
the radio, gotta be true, and you're like, Dad, I'm
(11:20):
on the radio. He still does that, Yeah, I heard
it on the radio, Dad. Again, Baffoon's like me, are
on the radio, guys, no more credible than your goofy son.
And I think it's interesting. Sometimes there's an investigation and
you're like, was it really a good investigation if they
never got to the bottom of it. I always think
about Mantiteo and how until one reporter or so decided, like,
(11:45):
you know, let me even look this kokooy girl up.
He ran with that, and everyone just sort of kooy
he wasn't the Boogeyman. Wasn't it a liney kokooi or
something that is that the name? No, when they.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And he didn't know at first and then he found out,
he just didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I always felt so bad for Mantitao. He feels like
just a really genuine guy that couldn't believe someone would
trick him. But there was a time period where it's like, Wow,
if anyone did any investigating at all, this would have
blown up way sooner. But it seems like that's a
weird story to really press and investigate, even though it
became a big story, right, Like someone had to really
(12:29):
have a what's the expression? Give me another expression besides
besides the one I I keep I keep wanting to say,
they got a real blank on for that real, real,
real stiffy, No, a real hankering. No, they got a real, real,
real joy, a real joy of getting to the bottom
of this. This one is like it's cheating kind of right,
(12:50):
It's it's just kind of Is that how you look
at it, is that that's just cheating. It's not kind
of It's not like, yo, did I cheat? I kept
my socks on. And the more you find out too,
it says here. Tory's investigation also uncovered that Leonard was
supposed to be paid seven million by Aspire, the company
that lists Leonard as its manager. Damn manager of what
(13:13):
he manages? Manager? What is he? Bobby? The brain? Heenon?
So I think that's the difference here, Like, Yeah, we
see a lot of these random stories uncovered. I don't
know the motive behind a lot of these stories, just
I guess investigative journalism and breaking a story is fun
in that world and in that game. But this is
just straight up cheating. This is the NBA. You know,
you have to nip it in the butt. This is
(13:34):
one of importance and significance, and man, I bet your
Kawhi Leonard is playing real dumb right now. Here's a
guy who never talks as it is, He's definitely keeping
his mouth shut about this. I'll be honest. My instinct
is like, who cares to go that deep into But
you know when people do, I'm always fascinated, I'll be honest.
The documentary is the stories breaking You're great, I less not.
(13:55):
I watched the one you guys recommended about the Catfish
Unknown Number No Number, The High School Cat fishing, you
gotta start thinking if no one really dove into it,
you would never find out. And then when you do
find out, you're like, man, people are wild. Now, Kawhi
has been a clipper for years now. So if Papoulotry
or someone didn't say this seems a little odd, wait,
(14:18):
don't dig a little deeper it. You know what? It
also reminds me too rich, like how would I got
to wait? Yeah, what you could find if you're digging
deep enough. You know. And now I'm not saying everyone
has skeletons, but as my as my dad always said,
you know, if you're looking, if you look hard enough,
you'll find something on everybody. Yeah, you know. It's then
(14:40):
you wonder where I keep my phone private, because if
you look far enough, you'll probably see something that's a
little sketchy. You know what. The crazy part is someone
runs for office.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It could be.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
A local politician or big time you know, national figure.
They have done stuff in their past that would never
have even been touched. But the minute you're under the microscope,
someone is there waiting to try to find some dirt
on you. Yeah, and Danny G's right. The difference here
and these other salacious stories that we're bringing up is
(15:10):
that this is actually cheating in the NBA. This is
doing everything you can because you're a rich guy with
deep pockets to get that superstar you had your eye on,
and you thought you found a loophole. But it's not
a loophole. You just went around the salary cap, which
is not legal in the NBA, and you just cheated.
So I honestly, I think repercussions should be stronger than that.
(15:31):
Danny g to set a precedence, dare I say, and
I'm not a again I said, I'm not a big
rules guy, but I think this is if this is true,
and it's straight up a careless I even feel, you
know what, I'm the first of many, you know what,
I'm insulted by it. I think Bomber's the only guy
who's used to getting what he wants find a way
by how simplistic it is, like really like a half
(15:54):
made up tree company twenty eight million dollars, like try harder,
convince me more, make a to make them the spokesperson
like spire. It just seems like it seems so half
fast done that I almost feel like suspensions should be
in place.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Do you think they got there tried to get it
passed because he's a Clipper. They were like, Okay, we
could do hairstylist or or something with trees. Yeah, just
call them a clipper trees for twenty eight million dollars,
he's the best that there is around and nobody will notice.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But I just think it was so half fast, Like
if you were to be like rich, try to hide
twenty eight million dollars for this player. I feel like
if you put a team of marketing people in the case,
they could have easily figured it out to manipulate. They
could have invested a million dollars to make it look
completely real and coved and gave it. Got twenty seven
to clear up.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The two names of the companies because what they did here,
it's two companies funneling money together. So the KL two Aspire,
that's a company that Leonard was supposedly the manager of.
Aspiration is the supposed tree company from Clippers owner Steve Bima.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are they even maybe the spelling of the company tipped
off tory A, SS and IR.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, like the similarities between the names of the two companies.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
To me, guys, I'm even more fascinated by again the
simple fact that it seems like the effort level put
in for this cover up because I feel like they
could be really they could be irs implications, tax implications.
I mean, you talk about companies that are sort of
faking money to a guy like, I'm sure this keeps
going deeper.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I think their best excuse is that Kawhi was hurt.
That's why he couldn't show up for work like at all.
That's why he did nothing because he was all in
the court actually wanted him to do work, but he
was always hurt and there was nothing that we could
do a tree management.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Man, so uh, pabulatory and get no Christmas card from
KWHI Leonard, I can tell you that so interesting story.
But again, much like like I don't know is a
random example that just popped in my head when Derrick
Cole got in trouble for Spider Tank, right, yeah, He's like, look,
hey man, I'm the guy everybody's come and down on.
But everybody knows that this is what goes on in
(18:03):
the league. I'm not the only guy. I really believe
these rich dudes, there's more than one rich dude pulland
shady moves like this to get who they want. I
bet you there's a lot of other players in these
situations like, oh, snap, you know it's about to drop.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
As you see, it's hard to hide these sort of shenanikis, well.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I mean they hit it this long. But you're right.
But I think this is the first of many. So
I think I think Tory exposed or blew the lid
on something that's about to explode.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I have a question because if this were the lakers
of the Celtics, I think we'd be losing our mind.
Do we look at the Clippers as they have knots
of always being the Clippers, or do we look at them.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Sometimes you know what, it's almost like they can't even
get this right.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's right, that's pretty Yeah, that's accurate.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Like these Clippers they can't. They they go out of
their way, cheat, try to manipulate the system, and they
still can't even make a playoff front. No, you're right, Dan,
it does matter who it is, because if it was
like Oklahoma City or Celtics or the team that's won
in the past few years, you'd be like, whoa, And
you know what, look at some stuff, look at football.
(19:11):
I think if the flight gate is not Tom Brady
the Patriots, if it was like if Kyler Murray and
the Cardinals were doing the flate gate, I think they'd
be like, come on, man, just fixing the ball. Next story,
like it's it's who does it? And hold on, you're
right off, You're right right on by the way. As
far as uh, it can't be the only guy it's
I doubt it. It's like if you see just guy first,
(19:33):
you know, when you see some guy getting caught throughing
some scandal stuff in Vegas or something, you think he's
the only guy. He's just the guy that got caught.
He's the guy that got caught and they're gonna do
further investigations now to put a stop to that. It
is cheating and man, as far as a business man,
I can't criticize Steve Palmer, right, I'm Steve Cavino barely
(19:54):
a thousandaire paying chouce support. But to pay twenty eight
million dollars that dude and extra like, I'm like, why
why why Kawhi Leonard? He was he was great at
the time, Quadruple Doink when Jeremy Lynn was still playing
in the NBA before he retired now six years ago. Cuh.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Why the reason is you think back to the major
announcement and the uncovering of him finally deciding to go
to the Clippers. So many teams wanted him, and it
came down to the Lakers and the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
In retrospect, he got ripped off. Well, that's what I
think about it. You forget Spurs championship. Wait till the
Raptors champions Championship. Why hasn't been the scene? And then
remember it was it was a battle of what LA team?
You're lucky if he's playing. Bomber got the raw deal here,
twenty eight million dollars. I got to do nothing. Kawah,
What was it?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
He was supposed to be out planting trees?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He was. It was just a I can't say loophole
because it wasn't loophole. Was just straight up wrong. It's
just breaking the rules. It was just a made up
thing where they used that as a reason to give
him twenty eight million extra dollars. Where do trees come
into play though, Like that's a tree company?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Because yeah, the company that Bomber funded was a tree
planting company.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Let me just say that you'll never find twenty eight
million dollars in a tree planting company. Okay, you get
what you pay for when you hire landscapers and people.
I've worked in that industry, and it's you're not going
to be like, oh, this is a one million dollar tree.
You're playing the trees that cost, you know, a couple
hundred bucks, maybe a thousand US.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I just had a tree pulled out of my yard,
an old, dead tree. Yeah, a couple hundred bucks. Yeah,
it's it's not a lucrative business. It's a hard at
work business to make.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Tree trimming is lucrative, though.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
It's three burial pods to Tory found out that Bomber
funded fifty million dollars into this tree planting company.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Was money growing on these trees? Apparently? I was even
trying to be a joke, Sam, You know what, usually
I mocked your jokes. Well, hey, your thoughts on Kawhi,
your thoughts on Bomber. And we're gonna talk about humanizing
athletes next. That's something else we're going to get to
(22:06):
when athletes do something where you're like, you know what,
I never thought about it, but now I like that guy,
I like that woman. When athletes do things that humanize them.
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Speaker 1 (24:16):
Man. This Kahi story has my mind racing in a
million different directions because now we're thinking other angles, like
what if Bomber's okay getting caught. Yeah, if he's willing
to pay over twenty eight million dollars to what's that
fancy word again, circumvent, circumvent to circumvent the NBA salary cap,
(24:38):
then he's not willing to pay up a fine to
get the player he wants. That doesn't mean anything that
Steve Bomber a fine and a draft pick he got
Kawhi Leonard. You know what it's like when Nike said, wait,
how much are you gonna find Michael Jordan if he
wears multiple multi color shoes? Like, yeah, fine, we'll pay
the fun exactly. I think it's probably worth it. And
that's the business moves of a guy like Steve Bomber,
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so never taking steps ahead. He knows what the repercussions are,
and he knows that, you know, maybe he could swindle
his way out of this if the story breaks. For
all we know he leaked the story. There were times
where an athlete or a celebrity or people get fined
for things. Yeah, and the fine is so minuscule that
they'll do it on purpose to prove a point. Like
if you if you find someone that makes tens of
(25:23):
millions of dollars or a billionaire like Bomber, thousands of dollars,
it's almost laughable. It would be like a slap on
the wrist. It would be like cheating the lead. It
would be like finding a regular person like two Bucks
if you had just joined us. Kawhi Leonard was paid
as a no show employee or whatever for a tree
planting company. He was paid twenty eight million dollars and
(25:43):
again to avoid a salary cab just to be a
part of the Clippers. Bomber wanted him that bad that
he paid him twenty eight dollars twenty eight million dollars
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Must be nice. Steve Bomber on yours one of the
(26:27):
Clippers said, Dennygs have the Clippers of comment.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
They told the La Times in a statement, neither mister
Bomber nor the Clippers circumvented the salary cap were engaged
in any misconduct related to Aspiration. Any contrary assertion is false.
The team ended its relationship with Aspiration years ago during
the twenty two to twenty three season, when Aspiration defaulted
on its obligations. Follow the money. We're Bohmer's company. Though,
(26:53):
it says this is how this came out. It says
a former Aspiration finance department employee had his voice heard
on Torre's podcast and that's when it started being investigated.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Okay, so this is a breaking and developing story from
Pablo Torre's podcast about Kawhi Leonard and Steve Bomber. And again,
it's not something that's allowed in the NBA. So as
of now, it's all alleged. Let's keep that in mind.
But well, these are big accusations, you know, and you
and Danny G were you know, there's got to be
(27:26):
he said, he saw the documents. You and Danny G
were having some good conversation off the air. Why don't
you tell everyone what you guys were talking about. You
were making some analogies with the sopranos, and I thought
it was actually a really clever Anellogan. It's really hard
to explain. It was the story of Artie Buco and
how he called out Tony for sort of sopranoing him
as a friend, and Tony's like, well, what do you mean. Basically,
(27:49):
Tony was thinking way ahead of Arti Buco. He's a businessman,
so he knew that if Arti Buco's restaurant deal fell
through and the money didn't come through, that hey, he
had Buko in his back pocket and he ate for
free at his restaurant the rest of his life. The
point is, Tony Soprano was always thinking a step ahead,
and we got to give credit to businessman like Steve
(28:11):
Bomber for always thinking a step ahead. There might be
a reason that this story came out and there might
be a reason he did it. And that step ahead is, Hey,
if I ever get caught, I guess slapped on the wrist,
who cares? And maybe I get out of this deal
in the NBA unless it's the NBA, winners are not
built on draft picks. You could argue with me, but
(28:34):
it's really based on free agency, right, who gets what?
Big guy? I think Steve Bomber and the Clippers were
thinking getting Kawi in that moment. Yeah, it didn't work out,
but think about in that moment when it was like,
all right, it's us versut the Lakers. How are we
going to make a splash in Los Angeles? We have
a new arena coming. The Clippers may have a little
momentum make it happen at all corts. We need a
(28:54):
star player. We need to get this done. And the
whole tony soprano thing we were talking about off the
here is people are in that power position for a reason.
They see the again, not loopholes, They see the ways
to circumvent. They see the step ahead. They see things
that you're not thinking about, and they could envision these
things and how they pan out. If God forbid, things
(29:16):
go wrong, and Steve Bomber knew probably way in advance
that this is what would happen, and he was okay
with that. And you know what, I know, I'm speaking
of fiction, but think of any movie or drama you watch.
What do they always do. It's like the plot line
of everything, follow the money, and they always, you know,
they'll always call up some you know, foreign accounts or
(29:37):
something like and it links to a company and that's
how they find the bad guy. So, I mean, follow
the money. Steve Bomber's connected.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Shocking by the way that former Aspiration finance department employee
said other celebrities were paid to endorse Aspiration and its
supposed tree planning operation, Robert Downey Junior, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Drake.
He said every other celebrity endorsement, though combined, would have
not met even a quarter of Kawhi Leonard's endorsement.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Do you think those were done for other things like
maybe a concert, maybe an appearance, maybe something like dude,
rich people find ways, and maybe that's his weird way
of laundering money to people. I mean, that's you know,
you got to assume that rich people try to stay
within the legal loopholes and not accusing Bomber or doing
anything illegal. But hey, man, it's like, if you don't
(30:25):
think he's thinking a step ahead of guys like you
and I, you don't become a billionaire by being a Putts.
That was the point, and the Soprano's analogy was when
Artie Buco realized, Man, Tony Soprano was just thinking one
step ahead of me. He realized, well, that's why he's
Tony Soprano, and this is why he's Steve Bomber. So
I'm not saying he's a mafia guy, but I'm saying
(30:48):
he's a businessman. And whether or not this is true
or confirmed down the line, it's an interesting story. Doug,
you're on a Maryland what's up, buddy?
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Hey, guys, Yeah, but there's no salary caps for actors. Okay, Yeah,
well this is a quint essential example of ribery. Okay.
And I told Danny g that more than likely because
I'm assuming that the commissioner hasn't completed his investigation yet.
This is this is Daniel Schnyder territory. Okay. I honestly
(31:18):
believe that after everything's done and if this is all true,
then he's going to be forced to sell that team.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, there could be bigger I think repercussions.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Here, and I don't think the NBA would go that far.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Maybe not that far because he's got deep pockets and
he's also, like ste is an unlikable guy. Bomber is
a likable guy. Know this factors.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
There's also the point of I think that there's equity,
and we know that the NBA isn't always on the
up and out. But when he bought the Clippers of
the whole that they were in one of them so
bad that he extremely paid way more than market value
so he could get them, but that that name was
so tainted that yeah, this may but there's I don't
think there's any way I would be yon shock me
(32:01):
too if they were to remove.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know why, because even though this seems scandalous, Bomber,
for the most part's reputation is solid right like dance
to compare to the Dan Snyder who people hated in Washington.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And as you guys have been saying, like they have
penalties in place for this, so it's not like this
is what do we do here? This is unfounded, Like
there are fines for this. There are things that happen
if you violate these sort of things. I don't think
it's enough for removal of team great.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Thank you for the phone call. Thank you, Dan Byer.
The numbers eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. That's
the big story of the day and we'll keep you
posted as it develops.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You guys do think the penalty should be greater though?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Definitely was it again? The draft pad up.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
To five point five million dollars in fines? I think
it said one first round pick and then you could
they could void the contract that's involved.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
We're talking about dude like billionaires for the most and
he has to wear croucks for a week. Oh oh,
need to mention that. Yeah, that's pretty steep.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
CBS Sports did an article off of this, and they
pointed to in the mid nineteen nineties, the Knicks were
trying to get Michael Jordan, and we're going to try
to do a sort of deal to give him money
through Sheridan the hotel and pay him that way. Now,
ultimately NBA rules the Bulls could pay him whatever they
wanted to pay him, and could pay more than anybody else.
(33:22):
But that was a way that the Knicks who had
a certain amount of money to pay, we're going to
maybe try to work around Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Michael Jordan, could they have if that was let's say
it was legit, though, that wouldn't be any breaking of
the rules. Right if the Knicks were to work a
deal with the Sheridan, but it really did come from
the Sheridan, would that be okay if it was just
contingent on him signing with the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, I think it's I mean, I I don't want
to say we're getting into a gray area, but I thought, yeah,
to the point of I'm just I'm trying to think
of a company that is a Coca Cola in Atlanta. Okay,
let's just say that way, Like if you were to
sign with the Hawks and Coca Cola is like, all right,
(34:06):
we're going to sign you to an endorsement deal.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Is that Are you like not going to get a
Coca Cola deal if you signed with the Hornets or
is it I just, I just I don't think that
that would necessarily be illegal as opposed to what this
sounds like is just a fraud of a.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Company, because I believe that probably happens all the time. Like, yeah,
you're going to get this deal, but it's contingent when
you sign with this this is the city to come to.
You can get sponsored by the companies that are his Yes,
and that's something we don't think about that often. And
this story again is a is a BS tree company.
(34:41):
Was there any validity to the actual company then, But
don't realize Michael Parsons has a cheese kurds deal in place. Yeah, yeah,
it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's what people are trying to find out, is if
there's any validity at all to this tree planting company.
Tore says he investigated and can't find any evidence that
it was a real thing, this deal with Kawhi. So
that's what we're hearing so far. But I'm sure more
is going to come out in the next few days.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know. I don't want to sound like gossipy little schoolgirls,
but it's an interesting story, really cool, interesting story. We'll
keep you posted. And that being said, speaking of updates,
let's go to our guy Dan but it and just.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Add a little bit more context. The Knicks and Sheridan
were owned by the same company at the time. Okay,
so there's where some of that would have been a
little not on the up and up root that, hey,
you know, advertise this Times Square Sheridan if you will,
Michael Jordan anyway. In other NBA news, Dallas Mavericks and
forward PJ. Washington agreed to a four year extension now
(35:43):
onto the NFL. Speaking of Micah Parsons. The Packers edge
rusher limited in practiced today in advance of their showdown
with the Lions on Sunday to open up the season. Tomorrow,
It's the Cowboys and Eagles. Trayvon digs Off. The injury
report for Dallas has his tackle Tyler Geiton, both expected
to start tomorrow. In Philadelphia, Jets tackle Elijah Vera Tucker
could miss the entire season. Suffered a triceps injury in
(36:06):
practice yesterday. An NFL network says the initial report was
that he would be lost for the season, but he
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Speaker 2 (02:20):
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Speaker 1 (02:20):
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
Dan Byer?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What up? Fox Sports Radio Nation? Hope your day's better
than Kawhi and Steve Balmer's day before we get into
midweek major and all the fun today. That is the
hottest story going. And you and I were doing our
Patreon show earlier today as it was developing this Pablo
Tory man and he closed the book on Belichick and
jeorde On Hudson. He's like, ooh, my next fascination is
(02:44):
Kawhi Leonard and Balmer. Well, he's doing some reporting, right,
but her to lean into certain things pretty hard, the
jeorde Don Hudson thing, the Belichick thing. You referenced that
who was on that harder than him? Now he's unveiled
this Kawhi Leonard story where he reportedly was paid twenty
(03:05):
eight million dollars for a no show job. That's the headline.
You're like, what does that mean? A no show job
with the Clippers. Didn't ren don't get that same contract
with the Angels. Yeah, but it was de Yeah wow.
But this was a way to get around the NBA
salary cap. Now we're gonna make this clear. We might
use the word loophole, but it wasn't a loophole at all.
This is not legal in the NBA. It's not like
(03:28):
some crafty way to get paid. It's not like deferring
your payment like sho heyo tani. This is not like
a college donor decided to do something nice, right right.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, there's a fine of up to four point five
million dollars for a first offense.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
This was a way to circumvent. That's the fancy word
to go around the NBA salary cap. You wrote that
word down because Big MIC's at it, because I wrote
it down to I got to hear in the articles
all over the place, guys, it's circumventing. Tory laid out
the alleged scandal. Scandal. Isn't that your old hairdresser? Yeah, scandal.
Gandle used to have rich a nice feathered haircut. He
(04:03):
laid out to Scandal on his program Toilet Find. Scandle
and it says that he has direct quotes from legal
documents that made the argument that Leonard was paid twenty
eight million through a company owned by Bamber, who owns
the Clippers. If you don't know, to essentially do nothing. Now,
that's a pretty sweet deal, except it's not allowed in
(04:24):
the NBA. Bomber's accused of using the agreement as a
way to pay Leonard more than his contract would allow, which,
if true, is a violation of the NBA rules. Now
my understanding is it was for some like made up
bunk company where Kahi Leonard never didate like a tree.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Plant, tree plant, tree planting.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You tell me you couldn't get Kawhi in front of
a green screen just to say one time, like, hey
it's me Kawhi Leonard. So it was planning the street
follow right, like, hey, there's a salary cap in the NBA.
But look, I want Kawhi Leonard so bad. I'm gonna
figure out a way to get him on the team.
Give him as much money as possible, but pay him
an extra twenty eight million dollars to solidify his time
(05:05):
and place with the Clippers through a company that doesn't
even really matter or exists, and the ramification was if
he's only on the clippers, right, and Pablotry's all over this,
and like Danny g just said, if this is true,
major finds suspensions like that's.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Not a lass of one first round pick and the
possibility of avoiding contracts that are involved in any circumvention.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
How do you view this? Do you view this as, Hey,
he's just a rule breaker. Good for him, he got
what he wanted. Hey, there's a few draft picks. He's
still got Kawhi. How do you view something like this?
There's two types of people, Oh, players and haters. Thank you,
Taylor Shift. No, you've said that before. Rule breakers people
(05:50):
that are like, you know, rules are you know, a
mild suggestion? And then other people that are like, I'm
a rules guy. I thought you're gonna say pink or
red starburst guys. Pink, by the way, both are good
blue cheese, or or ranch both are good blue cheese. Blah.
There's two types. Oh, I'm not answering. There are two
(06:11):
cards of love that you want to know. There are
cads love. There's two we do that we do that
in Philadelphia outside of garbageane Once in a while, there's
two types of people, and those people are as rich
said rules people, rules people, Twizzlers people or red vines. No,
(06:32):
there's two types of people, Keith anders or domatically rules
are rule breakers. I'm a rules follower. I am. I
believe in rules. I believe in structure. I believe that
there's a set of rules in play to keep idiots
in line. I may like Steve Mom, I'm gonna push
the rules until you tell me why. Pushing the rules
(06:53):
is not rule breaking. You push the rules, you you
dance on the line a little bit. This is stomping
over the line. This is just straight up. You paid
a guy twenty million dollars extra to guarantee that he's
on your team. I have a question when, when in
fact there's a salary cap for a reason, when someone
is guilty of such an offense, are you guys going
(07:16):
to respect it more? Of Bomber and Choir like got him,
got us? Here's the thing they would have won? If
they win, then you're like, yeah, it was worth it.
Who cares? He made it happen? Yeah? That really that's
winning solves everything? What they say, right, that would happen
here too. Yeah, I'm saying, do you admire the Yeah,
(07:37):
I did it. It could be, you know, performance enhancing drugs.
It could be Remember the dude a couple years back
was a Juicy smile A yeah, but the guy's still denying.
It's I saw the documentary on Netflix. He's innocent, he says,
still denies all his actions. You know what, it reminds
me double down on a brand new documentary. He's actually
worth the watch. Let me, can I just say something? Yeah,
I never gave a deadly squat about Juice. I really didn't.
(08:02):
I was like, what a pathetic story, what a loser.
The documentary where he doubles down, the new one that
just came out, it's actually pretty good. So it does
make you think that he was being boozled by the
media a little bit. A guy like Juicy Smalay doubles
down on lives.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know it's a weird analogy, but you and I
both watch Love Is Blind. There was a dude that
went on that show and he had like girlfriends at home,
and he came to the reunion and he's like, yeah,
I don't know what you want to tell you. I lied,
I got be ouches, Like he was like straight up, like,
YO caught. So I ask you, when someone's caught, athlete, musician, politician,
whatever the case may be, do you admire the forthright, like, hey,
(08:42):
I tried to get away with it and I got caught.
Or do you think Balmer Kawhi are gonna try to
be es their way out of this and make us
feel stupid. It's it's case by case, man, because speaking
to documentaries, if you watch America's team, Jerry Jones seemed
to break all the rules in the NFL, but he
just paved a new path. He's like, yeah, rules are
for fools. Watch me show everybody how to make real
(09:03):
money in this league. And he changed the league forever.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The short sighted.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
People were very short sighted. He's like, I'm a businessman.
He changed how the game worked and how they made money.
He changed the league.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
This is different than that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It is it is, but he did break the rules.
So that's what I'm saying. It's case by case. That
was for the greater good of everybody. It seemed to
benefit everybody. I don't see how this benefits anyone but
Kawhi Leonard and his pocket. It's not even benefiting the Clippers.
They're not winning with him. You know, he's not even
playing all that often. And if they really wanted to
(09:36):
create a loophole, rich is right, where was Kawhi with
his fake bootleg local feeling advertisement of Kawhi Leonard? And
these are the trees that I'm playing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
More attention to it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And there should be something in his back pocket. We're like, no,
here he is, we have the proof right here, he's
a spokesman.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
They got to Yeah, but once they found out Bomber
owned that supposed company.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I wonder what tipped off Pablo Tory to like further
investigate this. Oh, it was the janitor from Billy Madison. Yeah. Now, seriously,
someone had to have a scoop and they fed him
this scoop. Unless he just somehow came across these documents
or he had a hunch, I don't know. Good for him, though,
it's a it's a big story. Is becoming the uh
(10:27):
Ernie anstis now there's a lack of actual investigative reporting
in today's world, right, So you got to give him
credit for that. And as the story develops, it may
benefit the NBA in the future because if anyone else
is up to this, it'll put a stop. I'm sure
there's a lot of people shaking in their boots right now, like,
(10:47):
oh man, I hope I'm not next, because maybe he's
just the first of many. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
The fake company, by the way, is called Aspiration.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm an ass operation. I'm with these bids. I grab
a lot of ass butirations. I'm always fascinated. But trees,
I'm always fascinated how we tend to give more credit
to people than they deserve. Sometimes, like Cavino, you always say,
your dad will say things like, yeah, I heard on
the radio, gotta be true, and you're like, Dad, I'm
(11:20):
on the radio. He still does that, Yeah, I heard
it on the radio, Dad. Again, Baffoon's like me, are
on the radio, guys, no more credible than your goofy son.
And I think it's interesting. Sometimes there's an investigation and
you're like, was it really a good investigation if they
never got to the bottom of it. I always think
about Mantiteo and how until one reporter or so decided, like,
(11:45):
you know, let me even look this kokooy girl up.
He ran with that, and everyone just sort of kooy
he wasn't the Boogeyman. Wasn't it a liney kokooi or
something that is that the name? No, when they.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And he didn't know at first and then he found out,
he just didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I always felt so bad for Mantitao. He feels like
just a really genuine guy that couldn't believe someone would
trick him. But there was a time period where it's like, Wow,
if anyone did any investigating at all, this would have
blown up way sooner. But it seems like that's a
weird story to really press and investigate, even though it
became a big story, right, Like someone had to really
(12:29):
have a what's the expression? Give me another expression besides
besides the one I I keep I keep wanting to say,
they got a real blank on for that real, real,
real stiffy, No, a real hankering. No, they got a real, real,
real joy, a real joy of getting to the bottom
of this. This one is like it's cheating kind of right,
(12:50):
It's it's just kind of Is that how you look
at it, is that that's just cheating. It's not kind
of It's not like, yo, did I cheat? I kept
my socks on. And the more you find out too,
it says here. Tory's investigation also uncovered that Leonard was
supposed to be paid seven million by Aspire, the company
that lists Leonard as its manager. Damn manager of what
(13:13):
he manages? Manager? What is he? Bobby? The brain? Heenon?
So I think that's the difference here, Like, Yeah, we
see a lot of these random stories uncovered. I don't
know the motive behind a lot of these stories, just
I guess investigative journalism and breaking a story is fun
in that world and in that game. But this is
just straight up cheating. This is the NBA. You know,
you have to nip it in the butt. This is
(13:34):
one of importance and significance, and man, I bet your
Kawhi Leonard is playing real dumb right now. Here's a
guy who never talks as it is, He's definitely keeping
his mouth shut about this. I'll be honest. My instinct
is like, who cares to go that deep into But
you know when people do, I'm always fascinated, I'll be honest.
The documentary is the stories breaking You're great, I less not.
(13:55):
I watched the one you guys recommended about the Catfish
Unknown Number No Number, The High School Cat fishing, you
gotta start thinking if no one really dove into it,
you would never find out. And then when you do
find out, you're like, man, people are wild. Now, Kawhi
has been a clipper for years now. So if Papoulotry
or someone didn't say this seems a little odd, wait,
(14:18):
don't dig a little deeper it. You know what? It
also reminds me too rich, like how would I got
to wait? Yeah, what you could find if you're digging
deep enough. You know. And now I'm not saying everyone
has skeletons, but as my as my dad always said,
you know, if you're looking, if you look hard enough,
you'll find something on everybody. Yeah, you know. It's then
(14:40):
you wonder where I keep my phone private, because if
you look far enough, you'll probably see something that's a
little sketchy. You know what. The crazy part is someone
runs for office.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It could be.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
A local politician or big time you know, national figure.
They have done stuff in their past that would never
have even been touched. But the minute you're under the microscope,
someone is there waiting to try to find some dirt
on you. Yeah, and Danny G's right. The difference here
and these other salacious stories that we're bringing up is
(15:10):
that this is actually cheating in the NBA. This is
doing everything you can because you're a rich guy with
deep pockets to get that superstar you had your eye on,
and you thought you found a loophole. But it's not
a loophole. You just went around the salary cap, which
is not legal in the NBA, and you just cheated.
So I honestly, I think repercussions should be stronger than that.
(15:31):
Danny g to set a precedence, dare I say, and
I'm not a again I said, I'm not a big
rules guy, but I think this is if this is true,
and it's straight up a careless I even feel, you
know what, I'm the first of many, you know what,
I'm insulted by it. I think Bomber's the only guy
who's used to getting what he wants find a way
by how simplistic it is, like really like a half
(15:54):
made up tree company twenty eight million dollars, like try harder,
convince me more, make a to make them the spokesperson
like spire. It just seems like it seems so half
fast done that I almost feel like suspensions should be
in place.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Do you think they got there tried to get it
passed because he's a Clipper. They were like, Okay, we
could do hairstylist or or something with trees. Yeah, just
call them a clipper trees for twenty eight million dollars,
he's the best that there is around and nobody will notice.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But I just think it was so half fast, Like
if you were to be like rich, try to hide
twenty eight million dollars for this player. I feel like
if you put a team of marketing people in the case,
they could have easily figured it out to manipulate. They
could have invested a million dollars to make it look
completely real and coved and gave it. Got twenty seven
to clear up.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
The two names of the companies because what they did here,
it's two companies funneling money together. So the KL two Aspire,
that's a company that Leonard was supposedly the manager of.
Aspiration is the supposed tree company from Clippers owner Steve Bima.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are they even maybe the spelling of the company tipped
off tory A, SS and IR.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, like the similarities between the names of the two companies.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
To me, guys, I'm even more fascinated by again the
simple fact that it seems like the effort level put
in for this cover up because I feel like they
could be really they could be irs implications, tax implications.
I mean, you talk about companies that are sort of
faking money to a guy like, I'm sure this keeps
going deeper.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I think their best excuse is that Kawhi was hurt.
That's why he couldn't show up for work like at all.
That's why he did nothing because he was all in
the court actually wanted him to do work, but he
was always hurt and there was nothing that we could
do a tree management.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Man, so uh, pabulatory and get no Christmas card from
KWHI Leonard, I can tell you that so interesting story.
But again, much like like I don't know is a
random example that just popped in my head when Derrick
Cole got in trouble for Spider Tank, right, yeah, He's like, look,
hey man, I'm the guy everybody's come and down on.
But everybody knows that this is what goes on in
(18:03):
the league. I'm not the only guy. I really believe
these rich dudes, there's more than one rich dude pulland
shady moves like this to get who they want. I
bet you there's a lot of other players in these
situations like, oh, snap, you know it's about to drop.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
As you see, it's hard to hide these sort of shenanikis, well.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I mean they hit it this long. But you're right.
But I think this is the first of many. So
I think I think Tory exposed or blew the lid
on something that's about to explode.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I have a question because if this were the lakers
of the Celtics, I think we'd be losing our mind.
Do we look at the Clippers as they have knots
of always being the Clippers, or do we look at them.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Sometimes you know what, it's almost like they can't even
get this right.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's right, that's pretty Yeah, that's accurate.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Like these Clippers they can't. They they go out of
their way, cheat, try to manipulate the system, and they
still can't even make a playoff front. No, you're right, Dan,
it does matter who it is, because if it was
like Oklahoma City or Celtics or the team that's won
in the past few years, you'd be like, whoa, And
you know what, look at some stuff, look at football.
(19:11):
I think if the flight gate is not Tom Brady
the Patriots, if it was like if Kyler Murray and
the Cardinals were doing the flate gate, I think they'd
be like, come on, man, just fixing the ball. Next story,
like it's it's who does it? And hold on, you're
right off, You're right right on by the way. As
far as uh, it can't be the only guy it's
I doubt it. It's like if you see just guy first,
(19:33):
you know, when you see some guy getting caught throughing
some scandal stuff in Vegas or something, you think he's
the only guy. He's just the guy that got caught.
He's the guy that got caught and they're gonna do
further investigations now to put a stop to that. It
is cheating and man, as far as a business man,
I can't criticize Steve Palmer, right, I'm Steve Cavino barely
(19:54):
a thousandaire paying chouce support. But to pay twenty eight
million dollars that dude and extra like, I'm like, why
why why Kawhi Leonard? He was he was great at
the time, Quadruple Doink when Jeremy Lynn was still playing
in the NBA before he retired now six years ago. Cuh.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Why the reason is you think back to the major
announcement and the uncovering of him finally deciding to go
to the Clippers. So many teams wanted him, and it
came down to the Lakers and the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
In retrospect, he got ripped off. Well, that's what I
think about it. You forget Spurs championship. Wait till the
Raptors champions Championship. Why hasn't been the scene? And then
remember it was it was a battle of what LA team?
You're lucky if he's playing. Bomber got the raw deal here,
twenty eight million dollars. I got to do nothing. Kawah,
What was it?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
He was supposed to be out planting trees?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He was. It was just a I can't say loophole
because it wasn't loophole. Was just straight up wrong. It's
just breaking the rules. It was just a made up
thing where they used that as a reason to give
him twenty eight million extra dollars. Where do trees come
into play though, Like that's a tree company?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Because yeah, the company that Bomber funded was a tree
planting company.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Let me just say that you'll never find twenty eight
million dollars in a tree planting company. Okay, you get
what you pay for when you hire landscapers and people.
I've worked in that industry, and it's you're not going
to be like, oh, this is a one million dollar tree.
You're playing the trees that cost, you know, a couple
hundred bucks, maybe a thousand US.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I just had a tree pulled out of my yard,
an old, dead tree. Yeah, a couple hundred bucks. Yeah,
it's it's not a lucrative business. It's a hard at
work business to make.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Tree trimming is lucrative, though.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
It's three burial pods to Tory found out that Bomber
funded fifty million dollars into this tree planting company.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Was money growing on these trees? Apparently? I was even
trying to be a joke, Sam, You know what, usually
I mocked your jokes. Well, hey, your thoughts on Kawhi,
your thoughts on Bomber. And we're gonna talk about humanizing
athletes next. That's something else we're going to get to
(22:06):
when athletes do something where you're like, you know what,
I never thought about it, but now I like that guy,
I like that woman. When athletes do things that humanize them.
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Speaker 1 (24:16):
Man. This Kahi story has my mind racing in a
million different directions because now we're thinking other angles, like
what if Bomber's okay getting caught. Yeah, if he's willing
to pay over twenty eight million dollars to what's that
fancy word again, circumvent, circumvent to circumvent the NBA salary cap,
(24:38):
then he's not willing to pay up a fine to
get the player he wants. That doesn't mean anything that
Steve Bomber a fine and a draft pick he got
Kawhi Leonard. You know what it's like when Nike said, wait,
how much are you gonna find Michael Jordan if he
wears multiple multi color shoes? Like, yeah, fine, we'll pay
the fun exactly. I think it's probably worth it. And
that's the business moves of a guy like Steve Bomber,
(25:02):
so never taking steps ahead. He knows what the repercussions are,
and he knows that, you know, maybe he could swindle
his way out of this if the story breaks. For
all we know he leaked the story. There were times
where an athlete or a celebrity or people get fined
for things. Yeah, and the fine is so minuscule that
they'll do it on purpose to prove a point. Like
if you if you find someone that makes tens of
(25:23):
millions of dollars or a billionaire like Bomber, thousands of dollars,
it's almost laughable. It would be like a slap on
the wrist. It would be like cheating the lead. It
would be like finding a regular person like two Bucks
if you had just joined us. Kawhi Leonard was paid
as a no show employee or whatever for a tree
planting company. He was paid twenty eight million dollars and
(25:43):
again to avoid a salary cab just to be a
part of the Clippers. Bomber wanted him that bad that
he paid him twenty eight dollars twenty eight million dollars
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Must be nice. Steve Bomber on yours one of the
(26:27):
Clippers said, Dennygs have the Clippers of comment.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
They told the La Times in a statement, neither mister
Bomber nor the Clippers circumvented the salary cap were engaged
in any misconduct related to Aspiration. Any contrary assertion is false.
The team ended its relationship with Aspiration years ago during
the twenty two to twenty three season, when Aspiration defaulted
on its obligations. Follow the money. We're Bohmer's company. Though,
(26:53):
it says this is how this came out. It says
a former Aspiration finance department employee had his voice heard
on Torre's podcast and that's when it started being investigated.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Okay, so this is a breaking and developing story from
Pablo Torre's podcast about Kawhi Leonard and Steve Bomber. And again,
it's not something that's allowed in the NBA. So as
of now, it's all alleged. Let's keep that in mind.
But well, these are big accusations, you know, and you
and Danny G were you know, there's got to be
(27:26):
he said, he saw the documents. You and Danny G
were having some good conversation off the air. Why don't
you tell everyone what you guys were talking about. You
were making some analogies with the sopranos, and I thought
it was actually a really clever Anellogan. It's really hard
to explain. It was the story of Artie Buco and
how he called out Tony for sort of sopranoing him
as a friend, and Tony's like, well, what do you mean. Basically,
(27:49):
Tony was thinking way ahead of Arti Buco. He's a businessman,
so he knew that if Arti Buco's restaurant deal fell
through and the money didn't come through, that hey, he
had Buko in his back pocket and he ate for
free at his restaurant the rest of his life. The
point is, Tony Soprano was always thinking a step ahead,
and we got to give credit to businessman like Steve
(28:11):
Bomber for always thinking a step ahead. There might be
a reason that this story came out and there might
be a reason he did it. And that step ahead is, Hey,
if I ever get caught, I guess slapped on the wrist,
who cares? And maybe I get out of this deal
in the NBA unless it's the NBA, winners are not
built on draft picks. You could argue with me, but
(28:34):
it's really based on free agency, right, who gets what?
Big guy? I think Steve Bomber and the Clippers were
thinking getting Kawi in that moment. Yeah, it didn't work out,
but think about in that moment when it was like,
all right, it's us versut the Lakers. How are we
going to make a splash in Los Angeles? We have
a new arena coming. The Clippers may have a little
momentum make it happen at all corts. We need a
(28:54):
star player. We need to get this done. And the
whole tony soprano thing we were talking about off the
here is people are in that power position for a reason.
They see the again, not loopholes, They see the ways
to circumvent. They see the step ahead. They see things
that you're not thinking about, and they could envision these
things and how they pan out. If God forbid, things
(29:16):
go wrong, and Steve Bomber knew probably way in advance
that this is what would happen, and he was okay
with that. And you know what, I know, I'm speaking
of fiction, but think of any movie or drama you watch.
What do they always do. It's like the plot line
of everything, follow the money, and they always, you know,
they'll always call up some you know, foreign accounts or
(29:37):
something like and it links to a company and that's
how they find the bad guy. So, I mean, follow
the money. Steve Bomber's connected.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Shocking by the way that former Aspiration finance department employee
said other celebrities were paid to endorse Aspiration and its
supposed tree planning operation, Robert Downey Junior, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Drake.
He said every other celebrity endorsement, though combined, would have
not met even a quarter of Kawhi Leonard's endorsement.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Do you think those were done for other things like
maybe a concert, maybe an appearance, maybe something like dude,
rich people find ways, and maybe that's his weird way
of laundering money to people. I mean, that's you know,
you got to assume that rich people try to stay
within the legal loopholes and not accusing Bomber or doing
anything illegal. But hey, man, it's like, if you don't
(30:25):
think he's thinking a step ahead of guys like you
and I, you don't become a billionaire by being a Putts.
That was the point, and the Soprano's analogy was when
Artie Buco realized, Man, Tony Soprano was just thinking one
step ahead of me. He realized, well, that's why he's
Tony Soprano, and this is why he's Steve Bomber. So
I'm not saying he's a mafia guy, but I'm saying
(30:48):
he's a businessman. And whether or not this is true
or confirmed down the line, it's an interesting story. Doug,
you're on a Maryland what's up, buddy?
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Hey, guys, Yeah, but there's no salary caps for actors. Okay, Yeah,
well this is a quint essential example of ribery. Okay.
And I told Danny g that more than likely because
I'm assuming that the commissioner hasn't completed his investigation yet.
This is this is Daniel Schnyder territory. Okay. I honestly
(31:18):
believe that after everything's done and if this is all true,
then he's going to be forced to sell that team.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, there could be bigger I think repercussions.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Here, and I don't think the NBA would go that far.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Maybe not that far because he's got deep pockets and
he's also, like ste is an unlikable guy. Bomber is
a likable guy. Know this factors.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
There's also the point of I think that there's equity,
and we know that the NBA isn't always on the
up and out. But when he bought the Clippers of
the whole that they were in one of them so
bad that he extremely paid way more than market value
so he could get them, but that that name was
so tainted that yeah, this may but there's I don't
think there's any way I would be yon shock me
(32:01):
too if they were to remove.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
You know why, because even though this seems scandalous, Bomber,
for the most part's reputation is solid right like dance
to compare to the Dan Snyder who people hated in Washington.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
And as you guys have been saying, like they have
penalties in place for this, so it's not like this
is what do we do here? This is unfounded, Like
there are fines for this. There are things that happen
if you violate these sort of things. I don't think
it's enough for removal of team great.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Thank you for the phone call. Thank you, Dan Byer.
The numbers eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. That's
the big story of the day and we'll keep you
posted as it develops.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You guys do think the penalty should be greater though?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Definitely was it again? The draft pad up.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
To five point five million dollars in fines? I think
it said one first round pick and then you could
they could void the contract that's involved.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
We're talking about dude like billionaires for the most and
he has to wear croucks for a week. Oh oh,
need to mention that. Yeah, that's pretty steep.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
CBS Sports did an article off of this, and they
pointed to in the mid nineteen nineties, the Knicks were
trying to get Michael Jordan, and we're going to try
to do a sort of deal to give him money
through Sheridan the hotel and pay him that way. Now,
ultimately NBA rules the Bulls could pay him whatever they
wanted to pay him, and could pay more than anybody else.
(33:22):
But that was a way that the Knicks who had
a certain amount of money to pay, we're going to
maybe try to work around Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Michael Jordan, could they have if that was let's say
it was legit, though, that wouldn't be any breaking of
the rules. Right if the Knicks were to work a
deal with the Sheridan, but it really did come from
the Sheridan, would that be okay if it was just
contingent on him signing with the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, I think it's I mean, I I don't want
to say we're getting into a gray area, but I thought, yeah,
to the point of I'm just I'm trying to think
of a company that is a Coca Cola in Atlanta. Okay,
let's just say that way, Like if you were to
sign with the Hawks and Coca Cola is like, all right,
(34:06):
we're going to sign you to an endorsement deal.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You know?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Is that Are you like not going to get a
Coca Cola deal if you signed with the Hornets or
is it I just, I just I don't think that
that would necessarily be illegal as opposed to what this
sounds like is just a fraud of a.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Company, because I believe that probably happens all the time. Like, yeah,
you're going to get this deal, but it's contingent when
you sign with this this is the city to come to.
You can get sponsored by the companies that are his Yes,
and that's something we don't think about that often. And
this story again is a is a BS tree company.
(34:41):
Was there any validity to the actual company then, But
don't realize Michael Parsons has a cheese kurds deal in place. Yeah, yeah,
it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's what people are trying to find out, is if
there's any validity at all to this tree planting company.
Tore says he investigated and can't find any evidence that
it was a real thing, this deal with Kawhi. So
that's what we're hearing so far. But I'm sure more
is going to come out in the next few days.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You know. I don't want to sound like gossipy little schoolgirls,
but it's an interesting story, really cool, interesting story. We'll
keep you posted. And that being said, speaking of updates,
let's go to our guy Dan but it and just.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Add a little bit more context. The Knicks and Sheridan
were owned by the same company at the time. Okay,
so there's where some of that would have been a
little not on the up and up root that, hey,
you know, advertise this Times Square Sheridan if you will,
Michael Jordan anyway. In other NBA news, Dallas Mavericks and
forward PJ. Washington agreed to a four year extension now
(35:43):
onto the NFL. Speaking of Micah Parsons. The Packers edge
rusher limited in practiced today in advance of their showdown
with the Lions on Sunday to open up the season. Tomorrow,
It's the Cowboys and Eagles. Trayvon digs Off. The injury
report for Dallas has his tackle Tyler Geiton, both expected
to start tomorrow. In Philadelphia, Jets tackle Elijah Vera Tucker
could miss the entire season. Suffered a triceps injury in
(36:06):
practice yesterday. An NFL network says the initial report was
that he would be lost for the season, but he
is getting a second opinion by doctors. In Ohio, State's
win over Texas on Saturday on Fox was the most
watched Week one college football game on any network in history,
sixteen point six million viewers for Foxes and Network. It
was the third most watch game on the network. Day
(36:29):
Baseball Orioles Lee the Padre seven to nothing in the sixth,
Domino Backsley the Rangers two nothing in the eighth, and
you mentioned it earlier, Rich your Metzfeld of the Tigers six'
to two, Show, Hey otani not gonna make his next
starts going to be pushed to the weekend because of
an illness for The. Dodgers Red sox Plays Roman anthony
on the injured list with a title bleak back to you.
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Speaker 2 (37:00):
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(39:33):
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per hour heater into the chest of his. Catcher and
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expecting a breaking ball or a change, up and there's
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(39:57):
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(41:02):
ever see those like odd clips where like it could be, Womenous,
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softball where these women are mad at the umpire and
the catcher just sort of doesn't go for the ball
and the pitcher whips in the ball right at the umpire's.
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