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December 15, 2025 41 mins

C&R jump into 'THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMM!' Philip Rivers comeback leads the conversation. They talk Bills on-track, injuries to key players in the league & Chris Jones in his own world. Plus, Adam Sandler, Smokey Robinson & the Jags all get some love! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast.
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(00:22):
hello ho, It's all go on star Happy happy Honkah.
Man Smoking Robinson said, Rich, happy Chanuoka. I don't happy
wish everyone a happy chanukah. I'm not even disrespecting. I

(00:46):
say it respectfully. There is a funny viral moment from
a few years ago where Smokey Robinson, who's in a
lot of hot water bite right now. I don't know
if you knew that he uh said happy chinooka everybody
but happy honikah from your pals. Happy holidays, Cavino and Rich,
hope you had a nice weekend. We be rocking out,
lest go. The funniest part about the happy chinooka smoking

(01:08):
Robinson back of the day, it's like has he never
seen the word honika before? He was reading a cameo,
like he was reading a script wishing somebody a happy honikah. Yeah,
he never saw that spelling. Perhaps I don't know, but anyway,
happy Honikah. I hope you had a Bill's Charger, Seahawks Rams,
Rich's forty nine Ers sort of weekend. Hope all your

(01:29):
team's won. We wrap week fifteen tonight Miami at the Steelers.
We're gonna talk about it. Plus we might have a
breakfast conversation. What is your breakfast of choice? We might
get to that if we have time. Plus old man Rivers.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I hope it's a mount rushmore breakfast talking.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh yeah, I know they're your favorite. Danny G by
the way, super producer Danny G.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, yeah, Happy Monday, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
He's producing on the phones at eight seven seven ninety nine,
OUs Fox, we got Iowa Samuel without bios. Dam how
are you, buddy? And of course spots on the videos
we are streaming live Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube.
Covino and Rich FSR joined the live chat, so he's popping,
and of course the great Damn Bayer is ready to

(02:14):
kick our ass, looking at me stretching in the news
room getting ready to whoop our ass and last one
standing later to heading up and close the door as
my mom would say back in the day, what do
you think we live in a barn? Did everyone's parents
say that?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
In or out?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
In or out in er out? Yeah, Buyer. How do
you feel as we kick off the show, we're gonna
get to all the things that made you go hmmm?
I was saying, you know, hit it out, things that
made you go, things that make you go, things that
make you go. Rich ain't wasting no time. How do
you feel about rooting for the team that spoiled Philip

(02:49):
Rivers beautiful possible sunday? I was on an island.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I do feel that, and I recognized it myself even
during the show. It was such a great story at
Philip Rivers didn't throw for four hundred yards yesterday, but
anytime he completed a pass, the people that I worked
with were jumping up and down with excitement. And now
would have been great if the Seahawks could have been
up by twenty one points, but that was not the case,
which made the Philip River story even better.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It was a It was a tough one yesterday. Honestly,
it was a nice battle. Congrats to your Seahawks. Dan
Byer actually thought of you as the only like redeeming
part of the victory for me because I was rooting
for the old guest. I was like, everybody was, yeah,
but at least Dan Byer's happy as Seahawks won. Seriously,
I really was to take its a good team winning
and it's more important, I guess of the league. But

(03:37):
if anyone did what I did. You saw them kick
a sixty yard field goal to go ahead. Philip Rivers
pumping his fist, he's all fired up. I took a
little wes break at that moment. I come back and
the Seahawks take the lead. It was that quick, dude.
It was what forty something seconds left when they took
the lead, and then the Seahawks did it with like

(03:58):
twenty seconds left, ended up winning the game. I was like,
what the hell happened? Actually texted Danny g I was like,
how did they score three points so fast? It really
was that quick, So congrats and knowing you had to
remind yourself and I couldn't be the only one that
had to remember. Philip Rivers always had a throwing motion
that looked like he was sort of pushing the ball

(04:19):
a little bit. Because if you were unfamiliar with Philip Rivers.
Maybe you're a younger kid, you might be like, man,
he's really sort up like he doesn't have the most
natural release, almost like as a baseball throw, almost like
he's pushing it a little bit sure shot put, Yeah,
he has a slight shot put. So the fact that
he was forty four made it look like every throw
he threw, well, there's a lot of it. There was

(04:39):
some type of like a lot of thoughts about the
Philip Rivers game. We'll get to, but I want to
mention again. We're streaming live at YouTube dot com, slash
at Covino and Rich FSR broadcasting live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. You know, there was one play. I
was watching the red zone and there was one play
where he took the snap and and he backpedaled a

(05:01):
few steps and fell and I was like, ooh, old
guy moment. You know, we're watching very critically, right, instead
of just watching and just observing, you're watching everything. You know,
noice thinking he dropped back in the pocket. Yeah, I
was like, if a Seahawks secks him hard. My analogy
would be, have you ever played co ed softball and
the girl that's batting like twelfth on their team rolls

(05:23):
over a soft ground ball to you, and you almost
feel guilty fielding it cleanly and thrown it first. You're like,
God got her? Like, were you really proud of yourself?
You're proud of yourself. We used to play softball Saturday mornings.
I asked you not. There was an old veteran guy
was in his eighties. I don't even know if he
stole around, God bless him, but he would come out
to the park and every so often they'd be like, hey, Mike,

(05:44):
get in the batter's box. And this guy was in
his early eighties, served in multiple wars, but he loved
the game. So we would sort of stop the game,
let the guy jump in, get a couple of swings.
If you fielded a ball he hit, you sort of
felt like an ass, like, oh, what a hot shot.
He going to dive up the middle to rob an
eighty year old guy. That's how I felt like. Anytime

(06:04):
Philip Rivers faded back in the pocket, I like, oh,
come on, but I mean he did, okay, break him
in head. And you know what, speaking of old man Rivers,
he looks slow. I think they should have won. They
could have won, but he remains QB one against your
forty nine ers on Monday Night football. That's the update there.
That not be the coming out party right, No, So

(06:24):
it was cool to see and fun to root for.
The better team won. I think you know, I was
surprised that their defense held your Seahawks. Yeah, they were
very aggressive.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
The Colts came out hitting Seahawks, still having trouble running
the football and couldn't cash it in. That's why they
needed six freaking field goals to be able to do it.
The crazy thing is is when Rivers, the Rivers knows
where to put the football and like you knew that
right away. There was even a play where he missed
Josh downs on because I think Downs just wasn't used

(06:57):
to somebody knowing that the football should be there, because
he kind of held up his arm and then it
dropped off to his you know, just off to his right.
Rivers had the ball where it needed to be. That
could have been his second touchdown of the game and
really could have put things out of reach. So everything
that that the Colts had wanted, like I think from
his from the mind wise, was completely there. It was

(07:17):
just like the last throw that he threw that ended
up being intercepted when you really had to throw it downfield.
You lost some of the accuracy on that and that
it ultimately ended their game.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah. And even if he was were to complete that pass,
there were four seconds left. Yeah, I mean he shot desperate,
desperation moment, just throwing it out there. Props to him.
It's like, I almost feel like I would almost argue,
and I know some people feel this way a desperation interception.
I almost feel like, should it count the same way?
Of course it does, but it's like when NBA players

(07:48):
don't want to throw a ball up full court, yeah,
two seconds left, because then missing it just goes against
their shit.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
They changed it this year because of that. They stopped
counting it against the stats because players were apprehensive to
do it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, you know, you don't want to feel that way.
But I'm a positive rich I better the better team
did win. I give him all the props in the world.
I love what he said after the game. How you know,
he's human and he had his doubts and he was nervous,
but he showed all those kids that he coaches and
all the kids out there that you can't let your
fears control you, and he did his best out there,
and you know, I bet you he will play better
next week. Some of those butterflies are gone. Even though

(08:22):
he's done it for years, it's been a long time,
and you know, how could he not be apprehensive? He
hasn't done it on that level in five years. So, honestly, congratulations.
I thought that was a really fun game to keep
an eye on over the weekend. And now we turn
it over to you and get you involved. Fox Sports
Radio Nation. We do it every Monday again. Things that
make you go Hm, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

(08:43):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. The rules are simple.
There's no wrong answer. Here is any observation you made
in well week fifteen NFL but anything UFC Fight Night,
a movie you saw, a Christmas holiday special, The Beast
in Me on Netflix. I'm watching that. It could be
any observation that you made over the weekend, things that

(09:05):
made you go Hm. Well, Estebon, I don't know if
you're right about this. He says he thought he sort
of spied Rivers wearing a Life Alert necklace under his jersey.
I don't think that's that's not true. I don't think
I don't think that's the case. I will say this, though,
I've fallen and I can get at. I saw a list,
and I did a little homework and I added to
the list. Okay, I saw someone say, here's a couple

(09:27):
of players that are Philip Rivers age that seem like
they haven't played in the NFL in an eternity. I'm
gonna list other players that were also born in nineteen
eighty one. Allah, the age of Philip Rivers forty four
years old. And you tell me if you feel like
these players feel ancient in NFL years, right, Troy Polamalu. Yeah,

(09:51):
he feels way old, you know, because he played for
so long and when did he retire feels like so
long ago. Here's a name that feels even older and
his flowing locks are like great now.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, yeah, in his shampoo commercial,
he's got the Sultan Gray.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, there's there's another guy on a name that was
such a force in the NFL at some point. But
to me, he feels so two thousands. Clinton Portis Clinton
Portis is the same age as Philip Rivers. Wow, that
is wild, dude. Eli Manning is the same age as
Philip Rivers. Okay, you know what that one feels? Okay

(10:28):
because I feel like but I remember them coming up
right the trade revolved in the trade. Yeah, yeah, it
makes it obvious. But in your mind though Eli hasn't.
Can you imagine Eli playing right now?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Right, that's what makes it cool? Yeah, Andre Johnson wide receive.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Wes Welker, damn, Yeah, that feels like a while ago
to me. You see on TV all the time because
he's so far into his second career, you know, Whylins,
Oh wow, Nate, Yeah, Nate, great broadcaster. Feels like he's
been out of the league for a minute. But back
to Wes Welker, Like, I feel like I think of
the early time Brady days, right, and even though he

(11:04):
never really won with Brady, I remember partying with him
rich And doesn't that feel like a lifetime ago because
that's when he was on the Patriots. It feels like
we were working with like Maxim and all those men's
brands who were red carpets. So yeah, think about that,
think about competing at the level he competed at. My
wife was friends with his wife. Wes Welker, great family. Crazy.

(11:25):
I'll give you one more that feels crazy, I'll give
you one more. Sante Samuel his kids in the league now.
So just to give perspective, I get it, everyone taps
out at a different age. They tap out John Cena style, which,
by the way, was something else that made you go
from over the weekend right. It did, it really did.

(11:46):
But these are all guys that are forty four. Just
to show you what it really takes her a guy
like Philip Rivers to be ready to go back out there,
so props to him. He came up short. But again,
I genuinely think what you saw Philip Rivers do is
better than what some bootleg rando practice squad guy. You've
never heard his name, but they're like, you know, Jimmy

(12:07):
Tompkins who played in the USFL or XFL for a
year out of Kansas Tech. I'm just making up so cool,
Like if they just pulled some rando guy, I feel
like Philip Rivers gave you more than what that guy
could have given you. And we talked about Dan by
the limited choices because of you know, the trade deadline
has passed, so you're you're really just picking.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Also, think of it this way, maybe Riley Leonard throws
for two hundred yards. But as the game script and
how it all plans out, the way that the game
really turns out for them to be able to hold
out of the football, control the ball, make the throws
that are needed, the defense does have to respect that
Philip Rivers is going to throw the football where maybe
Riley Leonard you're not. You're just so you're focusing on

(12:47):
Jonathan Taylor, and they used Jonathan Taylor a lot yesterday.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now, those first couple of drives, the cults, and Jonathan
Taylor was getting a lot of yards per carrigause there
were times where those drives kept going solely based on
five yards, six yards, three yards, eight yards, four yards.
I felt like they were just moving the ball with
I felt like they had more reason to play behind
Rivers though, you know, more excitement and more will to win,

(13:13):
rallying behind him, the story, the old guy. He was
getting everybody fired up. I'm not sure anyone else could
have got them as fired up as he did.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I think it was probably an emotional boost, and
I think that the Seahawks defense also had to mind
their p's and q's where Rivers there were just again
I mentioned that throw to Josh Downs, there were other
spots where he just like he knows the game, he
knows where the football needs to be, so he's gonna
put it at that point and as a defense. And
it's no disrespect to Riley Leonard, but when you're a

(13:39):
rookie in the NFL, you can't go up against for
knowledge a guy who's about to be in the Hall
of Fame or will be in another five years.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
It's a good life lesson though rich It really is
like to take that risk. LIFs of risk are now
blood and blood up. There's so many moments in life
where people that fear getting the way of their goals
or a fear getting the way of their dreams. And
he could have easily, and he said it in his speech,
He easily just sat home and called it to day.

(14:08):
But he tested himself and pushed himself and it was
kind of cool. He didn't embarrass himself by any means.
Could have won that game.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
No, And I think that's an interesting point because Philip
Rivers is going to be in the Hall of Fame.
There's the numbers are there. But I think that there
are people who will say, well, he never made it
to a Super Bowl, never played in the Super Bowl,
didn't win anything that.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Would question that. Do you think yesterday helped his candidacy?
Agree to me, it makes me look like he loves
the game of football and he has balls. And I
know there's a on paper mean nothing, but in my mind,
I look at Philip Rivers as a baller and a gamer,
and he loves the game of football.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
And look at what we're talking about, Like with Russell Wilson,
were saying did he hurt his Hall of Fame candidacy
by staying on too long and playing in all these
spots and not doing as well? Like that was a
legitimate discussion that was happening. This comeback in him just
showing that he's so i'm moat capable of quarterbacking an
NFL game with five years off, I think speaks to
the type of player that he actually was.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Previously agreed and let's put this in perspective. I don't
like to play Sunday softball because I want to remember
myself as a good ballplayer. You had twenty seven home runs.
I want to keep that legacy in that memory live
in my brain from my own confidence. And he doesn't
want to pop up the second and have some fifty
five year old got catch a ball he hit. But
you also don't want to put yourself in a vulnerable
situation like this guy used to be good, right, he

(15:28):
do all that out the window. I was like, I
don't care. I'm gonna go out there and compete and
do my best. You could, you could already a legendary
NFL quarterback with a reputation with the Hall of Fame career,
Like the thought of him failing and embarrassing in that
moment did not stop him. So it really is a
life lesson to all. So you could argue that and
that there's victory. Mike Tyson to a younger kid, did

(15:49):
that where you're telling your kid, your kid, there was
no one more indestructible, and no one more fierce, and
no one more honestly, no more dangerous than Mike Tyson
and invincible in his prime. And your kids might be like, Dad,
you mean the guy that Jake Paul Woopton. It's like, yeah,
but that was like, you know, Philip Rivers put himself

(16:11):
out there and it looked all right. Yeah, I really
do applow that they spoil Can I even the flip though,
something we talked about him when me and you Dan Bayer, Danergy,
we also of brushed over it. Under any other circumstances,
the story would be like, man, this Rudley Leonard kids
getting a shot. I feel bad for him in a
way because this is his shot to possibly show the

(16:35):
world what he could do. And everyone's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, kid,
we want to see the old guy. Yeah, but again
eight and fourteen, right, and I feel you. They had
to keep it going the best way they could. Eight
and six now, I'm sorry eight and six now. So
that's really why, in my opinion, you got to take

(16:55):
your chance with that a guy who could lead and
a guy who could, like Yer said, be a boost.
Is chat powers available? That's from West and Idaho on
the chat? Can I say this individual stats? This is
from Chase nineteen eighty nine said individual stats play part
of it, but it's not the only part. To back
up Dan Buyer saying, you know Hall of Fame. Now

(17:16):
you look at Philip Rivers as a guy that he
didn't care. He just want to come back, even if
it's for a few games, to prove that he could
still compete. Yep, and you know what, Listen to what
Philip River said after the game yesterday.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Grateful, I mean grateful running out from warm ups and
all that, and I'm out there from anthem and as
the game just got going, I was just thankful, grateful that.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I was out there.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
And it was a blast. It was a blast. But
obviously the emotion is now our disappointment, right, disappointment. You know,
I'm this isn't about me. You know, we were on
a team that is scrapping like crazy to trying to
stay alive and get in the postseason. So obviously we're
all disappointed.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
And by the way, four competitors, that's like a dream
come true. You think your time is done, you think
you're over, and you get one more shot to show
them what you got and to show yourself that you
still got it. It's almost like a sitcom. It really
like him or a movie, like him putting those pads
on again that he never thought he would put on again. Well.
I even saw Ryan Clark going off about how wrong

(18:16):
this was, but he was saying, but don't get me wrong,
I don't blame Philip Rivers because if someone gave me
that opportunity, I would want to take it too, because
no one wants to hang up the cleats. That's why
Cam Newton was so mad about it, and he got
that opportunity. Props to him. One hundred and twenty yards
one touchdown. That last interception really shouldn't count, but it does.

(18:36):
And aside from old man Rivers coming up short, Seahawks
winning eighteen sixteen at the very very end of the game.
I think the other storyline of the weekend was injuries,
Like we lost a lot of big players this week. Well,
injuries took their toll. But I think between the injuries
comming out, I'm going back, I'm going to one up you. Yeah,
because of the injuries and because of the great Philip

(18:57):
Rivers almost story the best game of the week is
like not even our lead, and that was Buffalo. Oh yeah,
and Josh Allen's showing you that not so fast Patriots.
They're of twenty four to seven Portnoy and only won nothing.
Patriots fans everywhere making videos like what for real? It's
going through Foxborough. Everyone's thinking that they did this. And

(19:19):
then I remember I had a dip out and I
came back and I put the game on in the
living room, and I remember being like, oh, all right,
they scored right out the second half, and I'm like,
all right, now it's within. As they were coming back,
I'm like, oh, there's momentum. If you believe a momentum.
New England had lost it and that was such a performance.

(19:39):
And right now, I'm gonna tell you they're not going
to win the division because there's not enough time. But
if you're the Buffalo Bills and you're a Buffalo Bills fan,
you're looking at this as your super Bowl to win.
I'm not convinced anyone else is that great. And Josh
Allen if he could deliver a whole game like that,
and this team could play like that they need to,

(20:01):
and they could beat that Buffalo team, Buffalo young and hungry.
We talked about those open those little open windows, and
with Lamar not being himself and Mahomes now injured and
the Chiefs out, this is Buffalo, come on, this is
your chance, this is your chance. The Bill's playing big
this weekend. Thirty five thirty one. Like I said, I

(20:22):
think it was twenty one to nothing. At one point
you thought the Patriots had that game easily, and they
came back and said not so fast. That was really dope,
and then a lot of injuries to really keep players.
Those were our observations, and we're gonna dive into it
more eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox we didn't
even mention Rob Reiner. That makes me say home, there's
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know there's a couple teams that are out that I
think because of their reputation, we thought, ah, you know
maybe they could, maybe they could make a little late

(23:44):
season run. And we're slowly seeing those teams sort of
fall by the wayside, like the Chiefs, especially now that
Mahomes is gone. You said they're done. Chris Jones didn't
know that. Chris Jones of the Chiefs, like, wait what wait? What?
That made me say, HM, to be honest, even though
I understand, because I feel like sometimes when you really
and it, you really don't see it all because you're
so in. It's like a relationship, right. The answer may

(24:05):
be so clear to you, but when you're so involved
and so invested, you don't know what the truth is.
So you go to outside people who see so clearly.
He's seeing through the fog, he's seeing the battle every day.
Chris Jones didn't realize that they don't have a fighting chance.
He doesn't listen to my schedule watching I'm not making excuses.

(24:28):
I'm just saying I understand. Am I shocked? Yes, I don't,
But that's understand. I was always fascinated when you would
name someone in the sports media landscape and there's a
I don't know who that is. That's the industry you're working.
You should know everyone you should have. That's like when
you were show me the other day, if I knew
something like Loveline Lady, and I'm like, no, I don't.
Kimino never heard of doctor Judy. No, that wasn't it

(24:51):
the Lilah you heard the lab I mean not that
I did, not really. I've worked in radio and I've
obsessed over a not enough my whole life, So sometimes
you miss things. But I think again, I'm not giving
Chris Jones the past because he said, according to him
that the Chiefs still have a fighting chance, and he goes,

(25:11):
oh wait, we don't.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Oh snap, yeah. One of the reporters shook their heads
and they were like, no, the excuses.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm just saying that sometimes when you're in it, you
don't see things as clear as every way you're saying
outside looking in, the Chief's obviously done. And I mean
if the Cowboys we talked about on Friday, that conversation
is just trash. Now. Remember we said if the Cowboys
went out and a couple tough losses by the Eagles

(25:40):
and somehow the Cowboys could slip in, I mean it's
the Cowboys would have to win out and then now
the Eagles would have to lose three or four. That's
not happening. The Cowboys losing to Minnesota last night, I
thought was a real big, like organizational setback, like they
like somehow that Froscott was still positive. If they fought
to the finish, then you'd be like, all right, I see,
I see. He was a primetime Sunday night gained to Minnesota.

(26:03):
That was a week I think it's that's a week
way to exit. I agree with you. I do. Let's
go the phones. Everyone's lighting them up eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. We're gonna do last one standing
giveaway prizes later in the show. Stay tuned for that.
But we do this every Monday. Any observation you made,
especially in the world of the NFL, hit us up.

(26:24):
Things that made you go Week fifteen. As we wrap
it up tonight, who do we got? Let's go to
that's Steph or Steven Steph, Steph Steph in Illinois? What's up? Steph? Hey, Steph?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
How's be going? Fellas talking about that Chris Jones things.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I remember when Donovan Nab when he tied one time,
he said he didn't even know the game could end
in the time.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I remember that I absolutely remember that. Yeah, who didn't
at the teams in their division? Recently it was camp
Scattabu Cam scattab who didn't know teams in his own division.
We see professional athletes recent Remember when Anthony Edwards didn't
know who Alex Rodriguez was? Again, different sports, but to
still professional. Not the name drop we had, dude some players.

(27:05):
One of the biggest realizations to me as a get
this professional broadcaster. I'm sorry, what are you? A professional
broadcaster with a podcast? In fact, Rich and I celebrate
twenty one years on the air together today. Yeah, true story,
twenty one years December fifteenth oh four. We were in
our early twenties trying radio. One of my biggest realizations

(27:27):
was we'd be interviewing professional athletes. Our show could drink legally,
our show has a mustache. Twenty one years old. Today
you're all grown up. All the teammates don't know each other.
You know, it may seem like common knowledge now or
comment to you, but when we started twenty one years ago,
I remember being shocked at a guy on the offensive

(27:47):
line didn't know someone on special teams. Then you realize, well,
you know, i'd fiftys comeing go, can you name fifty
three people from your workplace? But you assume these things, right,
So you know the fact that Chris Jones, let'll give
you one, didn't know in the Let's see if you remember,
just because I'm dope and forgot. We had we had
a musician on our show. I think it's a Google dolls,
but I don't think it is. We had someone on

(28:07):
our show and Cavino started telling them the track listing
on their cet. I know it was. It was Stephen Jenkins.
Let's started, and Covino's like, yeah, that was track too,
and the guy and Stephen Jenkins like, yeah, I don't
remember the tracks on my album, Like you don't remember
the track order on your albums? Yeah he didn't remember,
So Steph called back eight seven seven ninety five point.

(28:28):
I got too excited. Even George Pickens this year was
didn't know ties were a thing, like he admitted. I
think after the Packers and the Cowboys tied, He's like,
I didn't know that was the thing. They're focused on
different things. We're focused as fans, like it's a different
level of focus. This guy's focus on game tape and
which game individually exactly so again, I'm not making excuses,
but I'm saying I understand what made you go? George

(28:51):
and Virginia. What's up? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Amen? So Bill fan since nineteen sixty nine, through it all,
sixty nine, you've been through it all. You've been through
four in a row. And do you think this is
the year? Is this the is the hope? Now you
see what they can do. I know what we can do.
We've had a lot better opportunities over the last five

(29:15):
six years. But I still think we can win the division.
I heard y'all talking earlier. You don't think we can.
I think we can well do. We're gonna play someone
tough coming up. I'll take a little look, but I'll
say this. I'll give you this, George. You might not
be riding as good of a car as you did
in the last couple of years, but the other cars

(29:36):
on the track are aren't as fast good one. I
mean you're I mean you're telling me Patrick Mahomes and
a healthy Chiefs team and a healthy Lamar Jackson, those
are teams that scared you. If you're the Bills right now,
you've got to be thinking, Wow, Bo Nix is in
our way, we could do this. Drake May he's really
shown a lot of promise, but he's the guy. If

(29:58):
you're a Bills fan, you should be like, this is
the year. That's it, got see it, that's it. I
think today we went today.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I think they have a great chance if they were
to enter as a wild card, to have that chip
on their shoulder. And I thought it was evident in
yesterday's game. They came in as a favorite in that
game and we're down to your point twenty one nothing,
and then they turned it on. So they needed that
disrespect or they needed that. I'm not saying that was
their plan, but for some reason, sometimes this team with

(30:28):
expectations does not live up to it. And so if
you were to go on a run and just reel
off three straight road wins, which is something we've talked about,
that's doable with this landscape here in the AFC, I
think that's the ideal route for Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Let me. I mean, I could probably put in a
little playoff calculator, but does anyone know off offhand who
would win that tiebreaker? Because they split head to head,
so it'd have to be what in division and then
conference because I could see the Patriots dropping one in
New England next week. I'm sorry in Baltimore if the raveeans,
I don't know, game a little struggle, but they play

(31:02):
the Jets and the Dolphins, and the Dolphins will be
fighting in week eighteen because who knows what they're trying
to pull off here.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Patriots have the division record tiebreaker because of the Bills
lost to the Dolphins, so that they have it if
they if the Jets or Dolphins would beat in New
England and that was the loss, then you would go
further down the line.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay. And to wrap up observations from that game, did
you see josh Allen Barfin spewing at the end of
the game. A lot of people speculated, like, who does
he have a flu? Is he sick? He says it
happens every game. I don't know the reason. And I
looked at is it nerves? Is it nervous? He says
that he has to get it out. So is that
just nerves? Is that how much is riding on a

(31:39):
game versus the Patriots? I mean, listen, people have different
nerves and anxieties. Used to say, like, you know, like
you're not feeling you get if you hop on stage,
could be know for a big event or something, you
might be like, go up a little nervous. What if
Josh Allen has at times one hundred and he's an
NFL quarterback, he might be might every single week like
you remember when who's on South Park? Who's on South

(32:00):
Remember the it was it? Kyle has a crush on
the girl. There's a girl that.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Every time he sees the girl, he pukes, yes, maybe
ash up that I like do do do?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Let's go to Dann Buy for an update. All the
feedback we're gonna get through next dB. What's going on? Man?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, so the news of the day, chief said coach
Andy Reid s to the quarterback Patrick Mahomes is going
to get a second opinion on the injured knee. A
torn ACL in his left knee former Homes, costing him
the rest of the season. Packer's edge rusher Michaeh Parsons
confirmed that he has an ACL tear and his left
knee he's done for the year. Packers wide receiver Christian
Watson status for their game against the Bears in Week
sixteen up in the air. He had an upper body

(32:37):
injury and was actually seen at a Denver hospital, but
no major injuries were revealed. Commanders are shutting down quarterback
Jaden Daniels for the rest of the season. He will
not play in their final three regular season games. Marcus
Mariot to the starting quarterback for the Commanders. Jets dismissed
defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes Dolphins and Steelers tonight eight fifteen Eastern,

(32:57):
and you guys touched on it earlier. Philip rivers Can
firmed as the starting quarterback for the Colts in week
sixteen on Monday Night Football against the forty nine Ers.
Head coach Shane steike And also said today the quarterback
Anthony Richardson has been medically clear to return to practice
from his orbital fracture, but no word if Richardson is
even close to playing in a regular game college football.

(33:17):
Nebraska quarterback Dilan Royola and Florida quarterback DJ Lagway both
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moving the semifinals to home sites next year and could

(33:39):
look for a neutral site in a different spot, or
also use home courts for the championship game. Scotti Scheffler
the PGA Tour Player of the Year for the fourth
straight year.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Guys, back to you nice than Bee. I use Google
and AI as my friend, maybe a human like you
with knowledge those more torn ACL. I'm seeing the average
NFL quarterback return is in the nine month window, which
would put Mahomes maybe missing a little the beginning of
the season, or if it's not, if he's getting that
second opinion, maybe it's not a severe but if it

(34:09):
is a torn ACL, we're looking at him maybe missing
even the beginning of next season. Yeah, I mean it
could be. That's the people to a year sometimes.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
People tried to compare the Brady injury to the Mahomes
and the Brady one was in Week one, which I
mean he was lost for that whole season. But that's
the dangerous part about this is it's all of next year,
plus I think you kind of need a year anyway
after the injury. So I'm not sure how great the
prospects will be for Casey, So it could.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Very well be that Mahomes may not even play much
of next season.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, I think I'll think you'll play next season. It's
just the point of getting past the injury, like if
you're trying to wrap up and I mean, yeah, it's
it's significant. It's not what the acls once were before.
But yeah, the beginning of training camp and what not
could be you know, there could be issues.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Man, Thank you, Dan Byer. Hey, everyone on the phone, Hey, Steve, coleback,
Chris Andy, Everyone, that's uh, Jeff. Everyone that's chiming in.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
We're gonna get to all your phone calls. Next we're
going to go more things that made you go. We're
gonna give away some prizes, play some games, have a
lot of fun on a CNR Monday here at Fox
Sports Radio Hall of Famer Rod Caru, he can give
averted by the way, if you haven't seen The Sandman,
Oh yes, happy Honika being interviewed by David Letterman on Netflix.

(35:30):
Not too shabby? What's it called that? My next guest
is Yeah, great interview. The Mutual Respect was great fun
watch Letterman and Sandler the Sandman. But you're right, Rich,
What an achievement if you're Jewish and you made the
roll call in the Honkah song. There's all three versions,

(35:50):
three versions, Covino and Rich live from the Fox Sports
Radio Studio. Happy Honkah, Happy Holidays. Remember the third version
he had the choir the drey Dells. Yes, Yes, Sam,
get on that one too. We got Sam, We got
Danny g and spot Dan Byer and his time for
our tire rack play of the day. The Bills just

(36:12):
can't be stopped in his second half of the game.
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(36:33):
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didn't bring up yet when JJ McCarthy gritties into the

(36:58):
end zone because the whole team, the whole offensive, defensive cameras,
no one saw that bootleg coming. And that was like, honestly,
he walked in. In fact, he's strutted and he did
a little gritty. So Minnesota victorious last night, and I
think there's a team we're all sort of not mentioning.
And the Broncos now, o, hey put them out there,

(37:21):
Bronco Rams, Broncos beating the Packers. That was a statement
with Micah Parsons too, So that's tough.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, Rich the Ravens getting back to five hundred.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Ravens are seven and seven, and if Miami wins tonight,
you'll have three seven and seven teams Miami, Pittsburgh, and
Baltimore that we were just talking about. But I think
the team that's getting no love, I think it's it's
almost like a George Bush show. Whatever fool me once,
shame on, you won't get fooled again. Fool me once.
Shame on, Shame on you.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
It fooled me.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
We can't get fooled again. I feel like I don't
want to be fooled that Trevor Lawrence and the Jags
are good. Are you ready for some football? And I
think they're really good, you know, like they're really they're
They're not just winning now now they're beating teams and
they're Lawrence had a game, his best game of his
entire career, pudies and what three hundred and thirty yards

(38:17):
something like that? Forty eight points they put up against
the Yams. You ever see at cl Roberts Mine? Now?
Do you do you ever see a college football game
where some dinky load Division team somehow at halftime is
like tied with Georgia or Alabama like this, like my god,
it's ten ten at halftime, and then Alabama ends up

(38:38):
winning forty two ten. I feel the analogy there would
be the AFC South when Indianapolis was so far ahead
of everybody. We're like, man, Indianapolis and there are people saying, like,
is Daniel Jones going to the Super Bowl? And I
know he's injured and he's out, but very quickly they're
in third place. Houston's defense looks ridiculously like frightening, and

(39:01):
Jacksonville's scoring points like they are they were in one
time this season. Every one in the network, not just us,
like the experts, like the Collins and dps of the world,
will be like, man, the cults are real. The cults
are in third place and they're not going to make
the playoffs. It happens fast a couple of weeks ago
by Cavino and it's over and right now. We talked
about the teams that Buffalo could be and should be

(39:22):
scared of another wildcard team unless they somehow catch up.
I think Houston, oh yeah, they're defenses, oh yeah, and
they're just streaking. You know. Hey. And by the way,
such a crazy weekend and so many big injuries. You
saw Patrick Mahomes hobbling off getting a second opinion. We
heard Dan Byer talk about that, but I saw a meme,

(39:43):
so it has to be true. Of course, in regards
to Mahomes Minshew. At the end of the game, it'll
be the first playoff without Brady Manning or Mahomes since
nineteen ninety eight. That's crazy. If you let that sink
in time stamp. That's when I graduated college. So those
names have dominated the dominated the NFL for that long. Wow,

(40:06):
A playoffs without them is wild that you're talking about,
you know, the late nineties when a lot of us
were in high school in late nineteen hundreds, were you were,
you know, you were doing lude shots and beer cake stands.
The last time one of those three guys was not
on a postseason team, which is wild. And speaking of
time stamps, on this day, Rich nineteen ninety two, thirty

(40:27):
three years ago, the chronic doctor Dre came out. Just
throwing that out there makes you say hmm. Now, so
many more observations and we'll take your feedback. Next, we'll
wrap up the phone calls. Then we're gonna play last
one Standing and give away some prizes, and we'll talk
some NBA for a second too, because it happened. Okase
lost and to who we talked about it last week.

(40:48):
If there is a team that was gonna beat them,
was it Wemby and the Spurs and but bam, it happened.
So we'll talk a little NBA, NFL and a baseball
observation as well. So more coming up cn R on
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