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October 8, 2025 41 mins

Dan weighs in on the MLB Postseason and Aaron Judge’s heroic performance allowing the Yankees to stave off elimination. Plus, he and the Danettes get a few chuckles out of Jerry Jones’ odd excuse for flipping the bird to some fans.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
Eight seven seven three.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
DP Show Operator Tyler sitting by, He'll take your phone
calls seat and I'll come up with the poll question
and got a play of the day. All of that
forthcoming the Yankees on the brink, they were down five,
they come back and win it, and Aaron Judge goes
three for four, game tying home run and four runs
batted in. So far, he's seven for eleven in the series.

(01:27):
The home run that he hit, I won't say it's impossible,
but it's nearly impossible to turn on that pitch that
is so inside, it's out of the strike zone.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
And I liked that.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
You had people who were second guessing, like why would
you pitch to him? They didn't. He was down oh two.
They threw a great pitch inside that most mortals will
strike out on, and he turned on a ninety nine
mile an hour fastball that was the only other person
I've ever seen that.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Was Barry Bonds.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Where it's inside, so inside, but he turned on it
and kept it fair and hit a home run. Magical, magical,
it's going to be so. I know the votes are
already in, but I don't think there's a wrong choice
in MVP. And cal Raley hit a home run last
night his sixty first on the year, and I just

(02:20):
I think this is going to be one of those
really really close votes and it'd be a shame. I
don't know if cal Raley ever gets this chance again.
Aaron Judge feels like, we'll get this chance again. But
this is one of those almost like Mike Greenwell, you
remember him with the Red Sox and he lost out
I think the Jose Canseco and then all the steroid

(02:40):
stuff came out and Mike Greenwell was a really good player,
but he was never going to get a chance again.
It's a magical season, a magical season for the team
as well. And I had a baseball analyst who said,
how's baseball and baseball fans going to react if you
have the Blue Jays and the Mariners playing or you

(03:02):
know that? Are we going to be like, oh, what
are we doing with our small market teams here? And
I'm like, I don't know why we get We always
come to this conclusion like, oh, who's gonna watch?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like I don't care. You know, it's you're.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Getting to see some good baseball. You're getting to see
some big stars, and if it's Seattle, it's a great story.
Toronto is a great story as well. I know we
love the big markets, but Mariners are up to one
on Detroit and uh, you know, the Yankees down to
to one. You got the Dodgers who might be able
to sweep the Phillies coming up later on tonight, and
then the Brewers and the Cubs. Kind of an oh,

(03:38):
by the way series, but the Brewers favored in that series.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yes, Marvin, that's always that always kind of boggles me
when people talk about the small markets. Isn't it about big,
big time stars because you have Cal Rawley on one side,
and if it's the Blue Jays you have George Springer
and Vlaguerrero Junior.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Isn't that what you want?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
You want big stars so people can see them instead
of just relying just on Dodgers and Yankees.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
We don't do that in the NFL. Like green Bay's
the smallest market. If green Bay goes to the Super Bowl,
nobody's going to complain. They're just not And I think
we get caught up in who's going to watch. You know,
Baseball struck gold last year with the Yankees and Dodgers.
Even though it wasn't a competitive World Series, you had
the big markets the big teams. But all I want

(04:21):
to see is great, you know, we get to March madness.
I don't know, do you really care if Butler goes
to a championship game, George Mason goes to the Final four.
I think if you get good matchups, that's all we're
asking for. And a lot of times you can even
have the big markets like we did last year and
LA won four out of the five games.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Yeah, Paulie, But I think the issue is and I love,
I don't care who's in the World Series.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I'm going to watch.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
But when you have a World Series where it's like
the Diamondbacks, it's almost like work for the casual fan.
You have to learn the players, you have to learn
the manager. When you have Yankees versus the Dodgers in
the World Series, you know the stars already and you
know the history of these franchises. It's like going into
a movie where you know the entire cast, as opposed
to like an independent film. It's more work when there's

(05:08):
a team like Toronto where you just know a few players.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
But if I go back to Arizona when they had
Shilling and Randy Johnson, Luis Gonzales and Mark Grace.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
We knew that team, We knew those stars.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think sometimes you'll get a smaller market or a
less covered team. You know, Rangers two years ago, and
people probably didn't know much about the Rangers. But I
don't get caught up in, you know the ratings. The
Blue Jays and Mariners both came into the American League
in nineteen seventy seven as expansion teams, and here they

(05:43):
are on the cusp of moving on to the championship series.
All right, seton pull question today, at least for the
first hour.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
Let's see you want to start. How about we start
football wise. This one's from Marvin after the Joe Flacco trade,
What should the realistic expectations for the Bengals be Division title,
wild card, AFC Championship game or no playoffs?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, they have two wins, so I would say, you know,
a playoff appearance that you know. Flacco obviously is nowhere
near Joe Burrow, but you still have these offensive weapons
and he will at least be able to take advantage
of them, far more than Jake Browning did. I would
say wild card because I don't know what the Ravens
are going to do. We know what the Browns are

(06:31):
going to do, and the Steelers are going to be
a playoff team. I don't know if they're a great team.
So if I'm a Bengal fan, I have to be
realistic and say, can we get nine wins? Can we
get ten wins? And I'd say yeah, I'd say that's realistic.
By the way, we want to be fair to Dave Simms,
the Yankee play by play voice.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
He was with us yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Fritzi, of course, had issues with Dave and his lack
of enthusiasm on a Vlad Guerrero grand slam. Dave Simms
on the Aaron Judge home run last night.

Speaker 8 (07:04):
There's the pitch, high flight ball deep left field, down
the left field line.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
It is off the fair pole.

Speaker 8 (07:12):
Hey now, hey, now, hey, now, Homer aeron jut.

Speaker 9 (07:17):
This game is tired.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
It's six six.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Did you want him to sound like that for vide Guerrero.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
That's what the fans want. Did he hear it was
a huge moment for the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Okay, but you wanted enthusiasm for Vlad Guerrero the visits.

Speaker 10 (07:30):
I would understand if he didn't have quite that much.
This enthusiasm for the other people. I could appreciate that
for the Yankee listeners.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Uh, nice call. That was tough to see though.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's down the line and that's where Judge isn't even
leaving the batter's box. He's like, well, it's either a
home run or it's foul, so I don't have to
worry about I got to hustle into second base with
a stand up double. But all right, Seaton, back to
our regularly scheduled programming.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
The pole question, Yeah, the other pole question is we
haven't had one of these in a while. From Paul
a bathroom and wait most VCW in sports right now
or just in baseball, maybe Judge Otani Raley other.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
So bathroom can wait when they're at the plate.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
Yeah, they're at the plate and you really got to
go to the bathroom. And she's like, you know what,
I'm gonna wait until after this at bat?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, Judge definitely, Judge. I don't know if cal Rawley
has entered that picture. Maybe it's a temporary bathroom can
wait for him, but Aaron Judge definitely, it's just I
think just seeing him at the plate.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Somebody that big.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
And I don't know who we had on this is
years ago and PAULI was bringing this up that we
were talking about tall guys who have long swings and
you know you're not going to be able to get
around on that fastball. You know, that's big looping swing.
And but Aaron Judge has been so good at being
selective and he does you know, there's pitches that he

(09:01):
used to go for. Now he knows exactly what the
strike zone is and that is the I mean a
credit to him, because yes, as you get older, your
swing is going to slow down, but you have to
be able to somehow compromise what you're going to do
with the plate. And I thought that you can't help
you can't help the pitcher by widening your strike zone.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
And that's what I think he did earlier in his career.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah, Pauline, Yeah, if you look at Aaron Judge after
the age of thirty, every year his strike cuts are
going down and his walks are going up. His eye
is getting better. His stats after age thirty are better
than his stats before age thirty.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, it's impressive though, when he comes to the plate
and he's played a great series here, this is what
we wanted, this is what you want out of your
MVP candidates.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
What else do we have, Seaton.

Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yeah, we're throwing those two up right now as we speak.
The Joe Flacco Floco and.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Is it Floco or Flacco?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I think I think it's Flacco.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Oh, I was gonna say it.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You might have been right. Yeah, he says Flocko. He does,
It's Joe flak Joe Flocko.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
By the way, I think PAULI called this when the
Browns were going to go to Dylan Gabriel and wondered
what what was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I think it's more than giving too much credit.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
No, I've been probably too much credit. I just remember
talking about it. We were discussing why didn't the Bengals
go after Russ Wilson when he got benched, and then
we said, as soon as Dylan Gabriel got the start,
they should just ship Joe Flacco across the state.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Mm.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean it's interesting. You know, I'm sure, I'm
probably sure that he would just drive down to Cincinnati
take you know, three and a half hours or so,
and you know, it's an upgrade going to Cincinnati over Cleveland,
of course, my hometown.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, Paul, Now, if you're the Browns that you lived
in the state, Dan, any chance you're helping out your
cross state rival here or is it no danger?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, no, you are helping them. Shouldn't do that?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, I think it also, this is what the Browns
should have done to begin with. If you're gonna have
these young quarterbacks, let these quarterbacks have a chance to
prove if they can play or not. And you know,
you got Flacco and maybe he did help these guys prepare.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Now they've gotten to the point I just.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Want to see if they can play, because I don't
want this to be a situation where at the end
of the season the Browns are going to go into
the draft and take a quarterback and these kids didn't
get a chance to really play. And Dylan Gabriel played
pretty well in London, Maybe Shoulde or Sanders gets a chance.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
To play as well.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And by the way, for everybody who said, oh boy,
there's a quarterback rich draft coming up, I don't know
about that. It feels like every year it's that next year,
that quarterback draft. Oh it's deep. I don't know if
a quarterback is going number one overall this year. I
get the feeling it'll be an edge rusher. But I

(12:02):
don't know if these quarterbacks are great. Maybe we're still
trying to figure out who's the Heisman Trophy candidate, the
leading one.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah, Paul, it happens every couple of years or maybe
more than that. Twenty twenty two, the first pick of
the draft that was a quarterback was the twentieth pick.
Can you picket out of Pittsburgh? And it was like
Desmond Ritter, Malik Willis and a couple of years before that,
I think it was. Yeah, like it happens once in
a while where there's that just nobody goes early.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, but it feels like every year we always talk
about the next year, like, oh my gosh, there's a
lot of quarterbacks there. I'm like, I don't know, because
you have the Rams with two first round picks and
the Browns with two first round picks, and you know,
Stafford's probably not going to play after this season, and
the brown situation, I mean, maybe they got a starting
quarterback there, But now is when you find out instead

(12:51):
of playing Joe Flacco.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
More, there's a mock draft I'm looking at right now.
On CBS Sports, Mike Renner has a quarter back going
number one overall.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Do we want to guess who the quarterback is?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Does he play at Oregon?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
He does not?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay? Does he play at Indiana? He does? Okay. Fernando
Mendoza three hot weeks.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, yeah, I still go back to Kirk kurb Street
talking about Frenando Mendoza starting the season. Keep an eye
on him. Fernando and Indiana's played well, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Just remember though these mock drafts, the editors encourage you
to put quarterbacks in the top ten all over the place.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, nobody wants to, you know, click on a mock
draft that's got an edge rusher out of Georgia. Sorry,
they just don't. It's like, when's the first quarterback used
to be running backs? Oh, I have let me see
if I can find it.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yes, morbon I was gonna say for the Mendoza family,
don't get too excited, because I'm sure sure Door Sanders
was the number one picking somebody's draft the year of
gol So.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I remember when we had Dion. He joined us at
the Super Bowl and we were talking about, you know,
where his son would and wouldn't go, And it almost
felt like Dion thought that his son was going to
go top five, not top five, rounds top five, and that, hey,
there's certain teams we're gonna steer clear of. And then
all of a sudden, what unfolded? I do have the

(14:26):
NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year odds updated by DraftKings.
I'm going to wait after the break. We'll take a
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Speaker 3 (15:25):
We talked about this yesterday.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
The Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon and he had
an altercation on the sidelines. And you know, you can
yell at your players, but if you put your hands
on players, because players can't do that, back to you
and the NFL find him one hundred thousand dollars. Now,
I don't know if it was the Cardinals of the NFL.

(15:48):
It seems like that would be in a house, but
there were varying reports on who was finding him. But
it was one hundred thousand dollars for the incident that
he had on the sidelines. Now, he did come out
and apologize, and I think that's one of those Hey,
you might want to get ahead of this and apologize
before people start to really look at this and you

(16:09):
put your hands on one of your players. About one
hundred thousand dollars. Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones got fined and
he apparently was thinking he was giving the thumbs up
to cowboy fans, but he ended up flipping off somebody.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
He gave the finger.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yes, Paul Okay, let's play the game, which fine is
more proper because you would think putting your hands on
a player and pushing them would be the two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars fine, and flipping the bird, which
is just a gesture no one's actually getting touched, would
be the one hundred thousand dollars five.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, but it is an owner who's doing this.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Yeah, but the act and it shouldn't be the pockets
of the person.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, well, you won the game and you're the owner.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
As posted, Jonathan Gannon lost a terrible, I mean, an
unbelievable loss and in the moment and he was way
too amped and should have been fine. But Jerry, Jerry's
one of the faces of the NFL, but he's been.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Given He's been giving Cowboys fans the middle finger for years.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
At that time, I'm surprised this is the one figured
figured Okay literally, but he he was. He thought he
was giving the thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And I mean it happens to me all the time,
you know, when my wife says, hey, you got that,
and I go yeah, and then oh darn it, I
flipped you off again, hunt.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
Yeah, Now, has precedent been set if Jerry Jones goes
double bird. Is it half a million? Or is it
the act is two hundred fifty thous I.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Think it's just the now. I don't know if a
finger offender. Yeah, I don't know. But but Jerry flipped.

Speaker 12 (17:45):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
You won the game too, and you're flipping people off.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
He did address it, Jerry Jones Dan He actually talked
about it yesterday. He said he was flipping off his
own fans, not the opposing fans. There was a swarm
of Cowboys fans, not Jets fans. The entire statement was
brimming and he was trying to give them. He said,
like a thumb's up?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
How you doing?

Speaker 6 (18:07):
And he actually went instead of a thumb, he went
middle finger. That was his explanation.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Okay your thoughts, yes, Todd.

Speaker 10 (18:15):
Unless you have a carple tunnel or some kind of
problem where you need to see a doctor where you
can't control the digits in your hand. I don't know
how you confused the middle finger with the thumb. I
just don't know how that happened.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Ever, Well, he is an eighty year old man, so
maybe maybe he has some problems with that, you know,
some inflammation.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yes, have you ever.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
Been in a situation where you're out in public or
something and someone says, hey, what's up, and you say good,
You're like, wait, that didn't match at all. They didn't
ask me how I'm doing. They asked what's up. I
should have said nothing, what about you? But instead I said, good,
this is the same thing, just with your hands. It's
the exact same thing. I kind of I went to
give him. I went to give a thumbs up, but

(18:54):
I gave him middle finger instead. It was weird. I
should I do a peace sign or a hang loose,
like I just met that up my bad. Hold on,
let me recalibrate here.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yes, Paul, I'm with seating on this one. I think
it could have been an accident because Jerry hasn't done
this before. And the other day I was at the
airport and the person at the gate said have a
good flight, and I said you too.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
She wasn't flying anywhere. He was just standing right exactly exactly,
and I went back.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
I was like, I just had to go you too, Yes, Todd,
I've done that with good to see you versus good
to meet you.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Sometimes you meet him for the first time, it's good
to see you.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
You've never met them before, and vice versa. That's kind
of awkward as well.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I've done that.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I've done that because I'll meet people. You know, I've
been doing this for such a long time that you
think you've seen somebody before and then you go, hey,
great to see you again this first time we've met. Oh, okay,
you look like somebody you know. Then you're like scrambling.
But no, I don't believe that. Jerry thought he was
giving the thumbs up and then he flipped off the

(19:53):
cowboy fans.

Speaker 10 (19:54):
Yes, Todd, Why can't that other person play along in
that awkward situation? Why does that person have to say
it's the first time we met. I have a problem
with that person. And two, why do you why do
you have to bring it up to that president the
first time we met? So just play you along. I'm
good to meet you, good to see you.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's close enough, Okay, want to get side. I don't
want to. I don't want to go down this road.
Someone feel uncomfortable. I've had people come up and say,
do you remember me?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I hate that because hey, we met in ninety four,
where like, I have no idea and I'm sorry you
sure you don't remember?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I don't. I don't think I do. I don't think
I do.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay, uh here, DraftKings has the offensive Rookie of the
Year odds a Mecca Abuka of Tampa Bay. He is
your clubhouse leader. Then it's Ashton Genty, Jackson, Dart Tyler Warren.
Those are your top four. And Abuka has been you know,

(20:50):
when you're you got bragging rights that you're the best
Ohio State receiver in the NFL. I mean that's saying
an awful lot. And what an incredible pick up up
for them with Tampa Bay to get him, because these
aren't those little dump off passes when Baker throws to Buka.
These are these are big boy passes and catches and

(21:12):
he's been wonderful. So he is your NFL Offensive Rookie
of the Year right now. According to DraftKings, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, Buka is fourth in the NFL and yardage a
season and first in yards per catch.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
And they're big plays too, you know, and you don't
normally go to your rookie, you know, wide receiver that
you know they've got some injuries with their wide receivers,
but still that's it feels like when they're doing these
fourth quarter comes comebacks. He is not afraid to go
to him.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Yeah, Paul, another bonus for Abuca was looking at his stats.
I don't have any drops so far. He's also leading
the league in catch percentage, like catches per target. I mean,
that's that's serious stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, I think that Baker went to him seven times
in Seattle, and he had seven catches in Seattle. I
think I have that right. I had a few phone
calls here Tim in Utah. Good morning, Tim, lead us off.
What's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (22:11):
Ay?

Speaker 13 (22:11):
Good morning?

Speaker 14 (22:12):
Five eight five? I just who wanted to point out
Yesterday Fritzy was demanding that Patrick Mahomes tackle a monster
of a man, Devin Lloyd running down the field, and
then in the very next breath he couldn't take a
self tanning bet because he had to consult with his

(22:33):
dermatologist first.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
I'm just a dad. I'm not a professional football player.
They're really kind of apples and oranges.

Speaker 10 (22:40):
If I'm a football player, I got to do football
things no matter what the situation is.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, Fritzy's soft.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
I don't have to get us canning.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
He doesn't want Patrick Mahomes to be soft? Is that right?
To Yeah, I don't like.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
What people say.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
Well this, but his other quarterbacks have gotten hurt doing that.
You know, you can get hurt doing anything. You can
get hurt driving your car and giving time any given play,
you can get hurt. If you're constantly afraid of getting hurt,
then you shouldn't be playing football.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
He's just as likely to get hurt playing wiffleball.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
You don't know, thank we don't know. Pickleball.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Yeah, what if he twists his ankle playing pickleball?

Speaker 1 (23:12):
We don't know.

Speaker 10 (23:12):
It's a violent sport, whiffleball and the NFL. You gotta
suck it up, don't play. Sit on your couch if
you're about gonna hurt.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (23:22):
Dan? I got a theory as to why Jerry Jones
gave that gave the fans the finger. He was waving
the fans up there in his ivory tower, and then
one of the Jets fans whipped out a Cowboys Super
Bowl and vats and flatted in his face.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
He gave him the finger.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
I think that's what happened there, So thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Oh I see, Yeah, it's been a while since they've
won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, Paul, I am breaking down the video, Dan, we
have it in context. He's waving to the fans. He's
doing kind of a wave, and then he goes thumbs
up to one group of fans. Then he points and
does a quick middle finger to another group of fans.
It does appear he's confused about what's going on.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I'm gonna guess one group of fans said one thing
that was complimentary, and maybe another group of fans didn't
say something so complimentary. That's why it was a thumbs up.
And then it was Hey, I'm gonna flip you off.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yes, Tot, hold.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
Up your wallet instead of the middle finger if you
want to stick it to everybody. It's like I got
billions of dollars when nothing you can show me or
an old VHS cover isn't going to do anything to me.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
But so sit down and have your drink and take care.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Thank you, Tod, Chad and salt Lake. I Chad, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 15 (24:31):
Yeah, good morning, guys, good to see you. I wanted
to talk about the Mariners as a lifelong fan and
being a small market team even though it's the fourteenth
Carket in the country. There's some great storylines that they
make it through. Just like you mentioned, Dan, there's Toronto
and Seattle. If we get a Brewers Mariners series, that's

(24:52):
huge because it's the Seattle pilots versus the Seattle Mariners.
If we get the Dodgers, it's at I five series
New York. We've got you the fact that Dave Simms
spent the last fourteen years as the Mariners play by
play guy before going back home to New York.

Speaker 16 (25:06):
The only one I.

Speaker 15 (25:07):
Can't figure out a real time so far as silly
and maybe it's the Philly fanatic versus the Baron Remose.
Who knows, But I think there's some good, compelling stories
if people get them out there. There's some great stories
at the m's have them to be lucky enough to
make it onto the alcsn the World series.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
So all right, well, thank you Chad.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I don't know if those are storylines that you
can sell nationally, but the people who get caught up.
And when I worked at the Mothership, I remember, oh,
we always thought about the ratings and covering something and
how big is it going to be? When I worked
at NBC, how many people are going to watch the
super Bowl? How many are you going to watch the Olympics?

Speaker 8 (25:41):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Sunday night football? What are the ratings? It's just TV
people because the fans. You either watch it or you don't.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I don't know if you go, Okay, sit down, let
me let me explain to you why you got to
watch the World Series with these two teams. Either do
you don't? Either a sports fan or you're not. And
I think that we do. We're more selective than we
used to be, but we have the opportunity to be
selective now. You know, back when I was growing up,

(26:10):
you had three channels. What are you watching? I guess
I'm going to watch you know, that playoff game or
that you know, World Series. So that's I mean, of
course you were watching it. Now it's you know, take
a peek. I'll watch a little bit of it. I'll
see if it's any good.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yes, Marvin, that happened in NBA Finals this past season
with Indiana and Oklahoma City. Like, oh, who's going to
watch it? You're like me, like, either you're a fan
or you're not.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, I mean that was my approach. It's like, are
you nobody's going to watch this. I am like, I
don't care.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Yeah, Paulie, if you were Rob Manfred in Major League Baseball,
would you rather have the teams you want or seven games?
Because like last year was Dodger Yankees but went five.
A couple last time it was a seven game series
was twenty nineteen Nationals versus Astros and it went seven.
I think I'd prefer seven with lackluster teams financially.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And I don't know the math on that, but you know,
can you get more money advertising with five games with
New York and LA than you can if it's you know,
a smaller market team. If it's the Brewers against the
Blue Jays, I got it.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I was there for the Phillies when they played Toronto
in Toronto Spectacular Series when the Blue Jays won it.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Joe Carter, Yes, Todd.

Speaker 10 (27:38):
But if it's if you're looking at ratings on any way,
shape or form, if it's major markets, a lot of
people are more likely maybe watch all the games. If
it's smaller markets, and maybe you're tuning into a game
six or a game seven. So I don't know how
the math works on that, but you may only be
tuning in to Game seven in smaller market as supposed
to every game of the big market.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, because this was a five game series last year
with the Yankees and the Dodgers and competitive, but you
did have big stars that people were probably tuning in for.
But once again, I never get caught up in is
anybody going to watch this?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Does anybody care?

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Yeah, pullet, I'm looking at Sports Business Journal from last
year and right before they thought there might be a
sweep with Dodgers Yankees. Fox would have lost one hundred
and forty million dollars. If it was a sweep every
game on Fox. Fox's profit was a little over forty
million dollars forty four million dollars per game in ad

(28:31):
sales revenue. So by not having Game six and seven,
Fox lost.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Ninety eight million dollars. It's all prepaid.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
The ratings are about next year's rates, not this year's profit.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Uh, let's see Harry in Chicago. Hi, Harry, what's on
your mind?

Speaker 16 (28:54):
Hello again? Everybody? Hey Dan, listening to your program. It's
way more than about sports. I'm curious. Did you have
a favorite broadcaster for baseball growing up?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Of course, Harry Carey was my favorite broadcaster growing up.

Speaker 16 (29:12):
Oh, but then there's something about baseball where you you
just break open a beer and watched the game. And
as what I say from one broadcaster or another, I'd
rather have a bottle in front of me than a
front of the bottomie.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Thank you Harry for.

Speaker 16 (29:32):
I want to thank you and the Dan Net for
for what you've done to your bodies. Yeah, Harry, you
guys have It's real, man, It's real. I love the program.
Keep it going.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Holy cow, thank you, Harry. I don't want to go
to another way.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I remember meeting Harry Carey and I went to a
Cubs game and I was down on the field and
I asked pr person with the Cubs. I said, you know,
I'd love to say hello to Harry and he said okay.
And I was still on the field. Harry comes down
out of the broadcast booth. This is uh, they're taking
batting practice. And I was so honored. He came down

(30:18):
and I said I was going to come up and
see you, and he was very complimentary. He said, you
got to come up. So came up during the game,
got to watch him do a little bit of uh,
you know, the Cubs game and Uh, there's one of
those where you go, that's pretty cool that you know,
honored that Harry would come down and say, Loo, yes Tom.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
I did not have a great experience with Harry.

Speaker 10 (30:39):
Carry real quick story many years ago, I called I
played a little hotel bingo as we'd like to call.
Back in the day before there were aliases and they'll
ring hotel rooms.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
So I was explain that I was in La.

Speaker 10 (30:48):
Yeah, you call, you're trying to get a guest on
the show on the radio, and you'll find out what
hotel they're.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Staying at, and you'll ask for the players and managers.

Speaker 10 (30:54):
And for some reason back then, the front desk would
put you through without asking when there's no that I
listed under an alias name, so I asked for having
it just wasn't set up in advanced I called the
room and Harry Carey answered and he's.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Like, call me back in an hour. I'm having breakfast.
This was a in LA. The Cubs were playing the
Dodge in La.

Speaker 10 (31:10):
So I called him back an exactly how I was
just getting started in the business, and he's like, are you.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
The guy that called?

Speaker 10 (31:15):
And I was having breakfast and I told you to
call me back and you never called me.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Well, you told me to call me back in an hour.
You're having Breaklyn. It's exactly sixteen minutes later. The hell
with you? And he slammed the phone down. It's my
only experience ever with Harry Carrey did exactly what.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
He has a problem. It was the problem you were him.

Speaker 10 (31:30):
Well, I shouldn't be calling randomly the hotels. I should
have sett up with TPR number one. But he said
call me back in an hour. I called him back
an exact an hour. I thought he would do the
show and we were promoting him.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Are you the guy I'm sitting here waiting for your call.
You didn't call me?

Speaker 12 (31:42):
Better?

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Hell with you?

Speaker 15 (31:43):
Like?

Speaker 5 (31:43):
What was that.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Kenny in North Carolina?

Speaker 14 (31:46):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Kenny's up VP? They ken Man on one.

Speaker 17 (31:53):
Of the first Just give a shout out the seat
and saw your post last night. Just stoke for you
and your family and your son's opportunity. I'll be following along,
but I had to just call. And I want to
give a comment on Todd's take when it comes to
who should be tackling and who should not be. I
recall a Eddie Bauer photo shoot some time ago when

(32:14):
he graciously like fell to the grounds and then was
out for forty eight days with the rib injury. So
I feel he's the last person that should be giving
takes on tackling in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
All right, Kenny, Yes, Tom, I would look at it
the other way.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
I was brave enough to in a meaningless game, but
with and I, you know, I didn't damage my ridge,
but I severely brewed some rivers, and then we had
a fly all the way home across the country a
couple of days later, it might have even been the
next day. We were flying home, and you know, I
didn't sit out.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I played.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
I wasn't wearing any equipment or shoulder pads or rib pads.
So I think that's actually something in my favor what
he just said.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
No, it's incredibly heroic.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Incredibly Yes, we were throwing the ball around at one
quarter speed of actual gameplay, and Fritzy tried to tackle
seat and casually he went down, and Fritzy, not going
to the hospital, just diagnosed himself as severely bruised ribs.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
I had trouble breathing in my seat thirty six D
or whatever I was in, and it was really really hurting.
So I did not say I broke ribs, but I
definitely hurt myself. But I went out that I played
and this is what happens.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You gotta play though, once again heroic.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
It's football. Get out there and do your job.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, yeah, okay, let's take a break. More phone calls
coming up. Mike Greenberg on his new book coming up
next hour. Also Jimmy Rollins, the former All Star Hevil
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Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yo?

Speaker 14 (34:46):
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Speaker 15 (34:51):
Just get y'all right to that bad Bundy real quick.
So I had a question DP between the Heisman Rays.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
Being so bad no standout plays an NC two A
and the MVP going back and forth Josh Allen, Jared
Golf Daddy dimes maybe a harder race to call. And
another question.

Speaker 16 (35:13):
I'm head of the Scottsville Old Man.

Speaker 8 (35:16):
Birthday Trip, allow myself to eat meet once every year
on my birthday.

Speaker 15 (35:21):
Any suggestions for a great stake in the Scottsdale area
and best golf course out there?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Well, the best golf course hm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I don't because you won't be able to get on
a couple of these golf courses because they're private.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I don't. I don't have any recommend recommendations for either one.

Speaker 10 (35:48):
With that, Yes, Todd, doesn't everything called camelback something just
like peach trees to Atlanta, scot Scales very big on
camelback things.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Maybe there's a Camelback Resorts golf course.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Yes, Paul, there's one, a Greyhawk. I think it's public,
not cheap, but it's a high end.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah. Yeah, there there's so many golf courses out there.
As far as steakhouses, I don't know that, Yeah, paulin.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Of course, there's a Ruth's Chris in Scottsdale. Always hard
to say, well you you combine the of course with
Ruth Chris steakhouses.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
MJ in Florida, High AMJ. What's on your mind?

Speaker 5 (36:32):
What's up? DP? And Dan?

Speaker 13 (36:33):
That's how you guys doing today?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
We're great.

Speaker 13 (36:37):
So I'm not a Jerry Jones fans by no means.
I'm sure he's got plenty of haters out there. But
Deaton said something that sparked me on my thought on
when you see somebody or meet somebody, whether it's whatever,
and you go in for the handshake, but they go
fist pump or they go hug, and then you know what,

(36:59):
what's the what's the what's the one?

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Two three?

Speaker 15 (37:02):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (37:03):
You first try to handshake, then go to fist pump
or the hug.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'd become more of a fist pumper, like I'll just
give you knucks. I just have my hand out so
you see it right away. And now I've had people
where they kind of swallow up your fist in there.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
And then it gets like weird.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
But I try to come at you, you know, not
like it's a Tyson punch. But yeah, right there, how
about some knucks there, man, Especially if I'm at an
event where I'm going to be shaking a lot of guys' hands,
I'd rather just do a preemptive strike and just go
how about some some knucks there?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yes, marmon, I think for knucks for me is every
time I see somebody daily, Like if I see you guys,
you give somebody dat Now if I haven't seen you
in a while, save it's the people from iHeart or whatever.
See somebody you see at the super Bowl once a year,
I'm not gonna dap you up because somebody's gonna be like, oh,
so you just gave me nugs. I haven't seen you
in three hundred and sixty days.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, so you just give me your right.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, there's a time, but there's also it's you. You
go in, you shake their hand, bro hug, tap tap
tap on the back.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Correct, it's three taps. Sometimes it's weird though, if you're meeting.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Somebody and you don't really know them, but they want
to adapt, you know, they want to bring you in
and then tap tap tap, Yes, Ton.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Can you dap up a woman?

Speaker 10 (38:30):
And aren't you concerned at all about being like a
coming across as a germophobe regardless of the gender that
you're dapping them up?

Speaker 5 (38:36):
I know you kind of alluded that to that, Like I.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Would much rather dap up of female than over hug,
over hug.

Speaker 10 (38:45):
Yeah, that's how I avoid the whole awkwardness to just
if you hug everybody, you don't got worries that a dap
as an handshak.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
It's a high five. You're hugging everybody and they're expecting that.

Speaker 6 (38:52):
Then you go, yes, well, I like the crisp handshake
shoulder pat because it's kind of almost like a business setting.
You're not hugging a person that you work with. Chris handshaking,
then a nice little shoulder pad like your friend.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Mike can tendessee. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 18 (39:09):
Hey guys, how's it going great?

Speaker 16 (39:13):
You guys hear me, Okay, Yeah, I got you, Mike,
all right, Okay, just.

Speaker 18 (39:18):
In reference to the Jerry Jones mishap, and the last
caller kind of was talking about the same thing, so,
you know, and I'll give the guy the benefit of
the doubt. He may have been, you know, meaning to
wave instead of flipping people.

Speaker 12 (39:31):
Off or or however it was. And I like Seaton's
take on it, his theory about things we repeatedly say,
like in in return to you know, a superficial salutation
like hey, how you doing, have a nice day and
you accidentally say good, how are you? I That makes sense,
and those are responses we say a ton a lot,
like there's a couple of them. We use a lot,

(39:53):
just like the fist pump the guy the last guy
was saying, you either shake or fist pump.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Or Dappa, hold on, hold on, Mike. There's a big
difference in thumbs up or I'm going to give you
the bird. It's not one of those awkward hey how
are you?

Speaker 13 (40:08):
You know?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Like hey, you know, where are you going? Have a
great day?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Just Jerry probably saw somebody group said something nice, and
then there was another group that probably didn't say something nice,
and he flipped him off.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yes, Todd.

Speaker 10 (40:26):
The great comedian George Carlin once said, if you're saying
godbye to a bunch of people at a party and
there's a certain standard thing that you say, it gets
very QUI.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Okay, take it easy. Okay, take it easy. Okay, take
it easy. Okay, take it easy.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Okay, take it easy.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
It's like the flight attendant, you know, when you're all departing,
you know, don't they always say the same thing, you
have great day, have great day, have great day, great day,
great day, great day. I don't think for a moment
that Jerry was like, man, I got confused, you know,
because I love to, you know, give the thumbs up
to everybody.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yes, paint.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
It would be funny if you admit what he did.
He's getting the two fifty either way. He's losing two fifty.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Either way, just.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Say, hey, Jets Fancery called me.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I gave him the bird.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, is he going to appeal this, because if he is,
then I'll believe that it was a mistake. If he's
just going to swallow two fifty. And I'm like, okay,
because if I did something accidentally and I say the Commissioner.
Hey man, I do this a lot, and i'm uh,
you know, I'm sorry, but I didn't mean to flip
anybody off. I was going to give them thumbs up.

(41:27):
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