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Let me start with the bad news.
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Joe Burrow will need toe surgery according to Adam Schefter,
and he will miss a minimum of three months. You
win a game, but you lose your quarterback. And here
we go with the Cincinnati Bengals win against Jacksonville, but
they lose their quarterback in the process. All right, best
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Play of the Day, poll, question, stat of the Day.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
All to that forthcoming, But let me start with the Bengals,
because they have failed business one oh one protect your investment.
Back in twenty twenty three, Burrow signed that five year,
two hundred and seventy five million dollar contract. The front
office surrounded him with weapons to mark Chase T. Higgins
arguably the best receiving duo in football, but the offensive line.
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And that's not just limiting Joe Burrow's ceiling, it's keeping
him off the field. Now, in twenty twenty he tore
just about every ligament in his knee, ended his rookie
year twenty twenty two, MCL spring twenty twenty three, a
cap string, torn wrist ligament. Now two weeks into the
season and his season is over. He'll be out for
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a minimum of three months. And at some point you
think Cincinnati would learn its lesson. You don't hand out
these contracts without protecting those who are making that kind
of money. Without Burrow, the Bengals, they were contenders to
maybe an afterthought, and that can happen in a hurry.
I know it's only two weeks. But this is one
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of those once again where you go if you're a
Bengal fan, it's not a question of if Joe Burrow
is gonna get hurt, it's which body part here and now?
With turf toe, and this is the weird part of football.
Here's the smallest thing you could injure. It's a tow
but it's turf toe, and he's going to need surgery.
But three months he'll be out, all right. Some of
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the other games, I'll just run down. Eagles over the Chiefs,
Mike Colts beat the Broncos on the leverage play. Todd
not in a good mood today. Seahawks surprise the Steelers,
Falcons handle the Vikings. Last night the Niners over the Saints.
Patriots with a big win against the Dolphins, Lions roll
the Bears, and Cowboys escape the Giants, and what a
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great game back and forth wild tonight you got the Buccaneers.
They're getting two and a half against the Texans. Chargers
are giving three and a half against My Raiders. College
football Georgia and overtime. Miami rolls USF, My Bulls and
A and m over Notre Dame. Vandy drops South Carolina
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and Georgia Tech stuns Clemson as well. Phone calls Ready
to go, Tyler sitting by, He'll take your phone calls.
The Kansas City Chiefs game against the Eagles. Eagles were favored,
and there was some controversy there with the tush push.
And I have no problem with the play because it's
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just me against you. You know what we're doing. Try
to stop it. But something happened yesterday that I think
will change the tush push, and that is Dean Blandino,
former head of officials now is a you know, he
reviews plays for Fox. He says I'm done. During the broadcast,
he says, I'm done with the tushbush. You can't officiate it.
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And I went ding ding, ding ding ding. If the
NFL Home Office is going to hear that because they
don't have the data. I think from what I was told,
my source said they were trying to gather data that
would say, hey, we got to get ready of this play.
They don't want the play, but you have to have
a reason to get read of the play, and the
reason was going to be, oh, look at the injuries. Well,
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they didn't have the data, and then all of a
sudden you're going, Okay, yeah, I guess it's back in. Well,
when Dean Blandino said that yesterday, I thought, there is
the out the NFL can say, we can't officiate this play.
We can't see everything that's going on. Well, there were
a couple of things you could see and they couldn't
officiate that because it looked like there was fall start
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or the Chiefs were lined up in the neutral zone.
These are all things that can be officiated, but they
When Dean Blandino said that, I thought the NFL has
its out because they don't.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Have the injury and information.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
That you have.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
We just can't officiate this play.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Now, it's not fair, you know, to the Eagles, because
the Eagles it's you know, they designed this play. Everybody
can run this play. They're not the only ones. It's
not like, hey, that's our play. You can't run that.
And that's why I said, you know, I can't penalize
the Eagles because they're really good at this play, but
the officials have to be really good at that play
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as well, and they weren't yesterday. Now, did I think
the Eagles were better than the Chiefs? Yes, I did yesterday,
But you know this is going to be the Oh
my gosh, the Chiefs are zero and two. Okay, they
weren't supposed to win this one. They have a game
on the road against the Chargers and Justin Herbert has
one of the best games of his career. I you know,
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these people who bail after one game or two games,
you bail, don't come back, and like the Lions after Week.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
One, unless they're coordinators, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Now, the Bears can make anybody look good apparently, but
even with this, the Eagles are the best team in
football right now, and they proved it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They went to Kansas City, but it was a close game.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
It just we get on a bandwagon and then all
of a sudden, it's like, I'm off to the arch
Manning bandwagon. Paul Feinbaum, who have great respect for but
he you know, fallen victim to the hot take squad
here and then you know, hey, this guy's the best
motalented quarterback since Tim Tebow, and I went, how do
we know this? There's no sample size where you go, Yep,
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he's gonna Teams are going to tank for arch Man
and went, godly, can we slow down on saying stupid things.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I get it. Do you want somebody to.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Notice you you're gonna say these crazy things. I have
no reason to believe Arch Manning. If Arch Manning is
not Arch Manning, we would not be This would not
be a discussion. Oh but his you know, his grandfather
and his uncles, and I get all of those things.
I want to see what he does. I want I
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was fair to him against Ohio State, extremely tough conditions.
But you know, when you're playing UTEP, I expect you
to light it up unless he's injured. That was the
only caveat I would add to this. Let me see
what he does. Let's be fair to him. We're hyping him.
He's not now he's taking advantage of the hype with nil.
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But and I would have discouraged him from doing that
first year. I would have said, you don't need the money,
you know, just go out there like Andrew Luck did
this his first year in the NFL. RG three got
all the commercials. You Luck said, No, I'm just gonna
go in and play football. I would have told arch
don't do it. You know your family's got money, don't
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do it, because then you go to those commercial breaks
after you've you know, thrown an interception or you know,
got sacked, and it just it's not a good look there.
But besides that, you know, I gotta give him a
chance here. Everybody was in on JJ McCarthy, right, maybe
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not so much today after last night. That's what we've become.
It's so I gotta get this out. I gotta have
a hot take. You don't have to, Rex Ryan said,
Russell Wilson can't play. That was a week ago. Can
Russ still play now? He's somewhere in between week one
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and week two and the Cowboys defense. I imagine if
the Cowboys had a pass rusher yesterday. But Russ can
throw the deep ball, and doubtless let him throw the
deep ball. But Rex Ryan said, Russell Wilson can't play anymore.
Do you stand by that? Hey, you gotta get Jackson
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Dart in there. You don't have some patience. Let Russ
play for a month and then see what you have
with the team. And Russ played well enough to win.
And I don't know the interception, I don't know if
that's on him. I have to wait the guys who
break down film. It looked like it might have been
the wrong pass route run by neighbors might have been
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in fairness to us, but he did play really well.
But man, do we want to we got it all
figured out? We do not have it figured out as
much as we think we do.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Yes, Paulie, I have a five minute poll question before
we get to our normal who had the worst weekend?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Should the Cincinnati Bengals call the Atlanta Falcons this morning
about Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
If you think that your team legitimately is going to
make the playoffs, I would probably stay with you know,
Jake Browning. He's not as good as Kirk Cousins, but
Cousin's going to cost you a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I think the better question that PAULI asked is should
the Falcons call the Bengals? Yeah, Hey, Kirk Cousin, I mean,
Michael Pennis Junior, the third played well last night. You
could get Kirk Cousins off the books.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I would.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I would at least inquire. But if I'm the Bengals
and the Bengals are thrifty trying to be cunn as
it is Kirk Cousins, yeah thrifty, I would stay with
Jake Browning. I mean, you got two really good receivers
who need to act like two really good receivers here.
But three months boy, that's I mean, that's your season
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right there? Can you still carve out nine wins? I
mean they got the win yesterday against Jacksonville. That's the
important part of this. But you start to look at
these situations, and that's why when you make predictions. You know,
Joe Burrow was MVP, like last year, he was unbelievable.
If they make the playoffs, maybe he's your MVP. Although
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you know Josh Allen and Lamar had spectacular years. But
you know, you're trying to figure out, Okay, he's going
to be MVP this year. Bengal's going to make the playoffs.
Now that's gone watching you know people all in all in.
You know the Pittsburgh Steelers, Okay, Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, until
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no against Seattle. So these things, you know, you're trying
to figure them out in real time. Are you off
Kansas City? You were off Detroit? There's a market direction
that happens every single year. Somebody's going to be really
good better than you thought. Somebody's not going to be
as good. A couple of teams you know, maybe maybe
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that team is Kansas City. Maybe they're not as good
as we thought. You know, I think the Raiders are better,
The Chargers are better, the Broncos. How about the Niners
Mac Jones two and zero. I mean they're banged up too, Yes, Martin.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It's amazing what happens when you get that guy a chance.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well, I didn't think they would fall off that much
because mac Jones is sort of a brocked pretty type quarterback,
and they were interested in mac Jones when he was
coming out, So I'm not surprised at that. He should
be pretty good. He got experience. Maybe he uses us
to get a new contract someplace else. Maybe it's like
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Sam Donald, Sam Donald with Seattle.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
How about that on the road.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
All right, so we'll get to phone calls, best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked,
you didn't like. We'll talk some college football coming up
as well.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
E J.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Manuel ESPN college football analyst, former NFL quarterback Bill Cower.
The Steelers will stop by. Well he's up CBS. But
you think a coward, you think Steelers seat and you
have poll questions for us?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Heck yeah, dude, After the break, heck, yeah, dude.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, all right, fair enough, how's morale? Sorry?
Speaker 8 (13:34):
I know you're down, oh, rally, I'm just it was
that was a tough but that was a tough one
to take.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I would like to have seen what you look like.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
You did not want to see that.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
My wife had to do with that.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
She was right next to me, and she what did
it sound like?
Speaker 8 (13:50):
I was? I was just so frustrated by letting Daniel
Jones look like Joe Montana over three hundred yards to
pass it one hundred and sixty five yards rushing, They
give up the tailor, they miss a field goal late
to go five, which means obviously, anything other than a
touchdown you win. And then, don't get me started on
the last seconds with the sixty yarder and then the
forty five yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, these sixty yarders are nothing now.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
And you get the ball at the thirty five yard line,
two first downs, you're in field goal range. And the
Colts played for a sixty yard field goal. They didn't
try to improve, they didn't try to go for more yards.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
They're like, no, we're good.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
The Cowboys it's like, eh, sixty four, Yeah, yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Although esthetically, you know, the NFL wants those high scoring plays,
and you know, and then all of a sudden you
bring out the least football like player and he's going
to decide these games. But and the pressure Brandon Aubrey,
who's going to be a free agent sixty four yarder,
so four career field goals of at least sixty yards,
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he'll end up with the longest. I wouldn't be surprised
he ends up with a sixty seven, sixty eight yarder
and passes just Tucker on the all time list. All right, well,
take a break, we'll talk some college football. Bad loss
for Notre Dame Tennessee. Game was wonderful. There's a few
things to chat about with EJ Manual and your phone
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Speaker 2 (15:58):
Waiting for EJ. Manual.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He's a college football analyst for the Mothership. Former NFL quarterback.
He'll join us momentarily. In the meantime, let's come up
with a pole question for the first hour of the program, Seaton.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, let's start off what we always do.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
I gonna go NFL edition and college football editions of
worst weekend? Would you like to start in college or
the NFL?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Let's start college?
Speaker 9 (16:23):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Why not start with the kids?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Clemson? Oh, big win for Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know Clemson had to rally to beat Troy like
they could conceivably zero to three. And this is, you know,
a team and a coach that wanted out of the
ACC and then negotiated some kind of sweetheart deal to
stay in the ACC and then you're getting roughed up
here A little bit long, long, long odds. I would say,
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I guess to make the playoffs. I think it's like
five percent to make the plans. But yeah, no, that's
a bad lost dog.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
What else you can Tennessee volunteers.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Oh god, that was a win.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
That was a win, and then it wasn't a win.
This is uh, this is how it sounded on lear
Field Sports.
Speaker 11 (17:21):
For the lead with seven seconds to go, say, Sat,
kick on the way, no good, The kick is no good.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Here is the Georgia call of that missed field goal.
Speaker 12 (17:40):
Kicking to the right, Gilbert, you try to put Tennessee ahead,
the kick is away and the kick is.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Good.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
He missed it.
Speaker 11 (17:53):
Oh my goodness, What the heck happened there?
Speaker 13 (17:59):
That?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Scott Howard? His call? He Georgia called there. That was
a wild game, back and forth, and I thought Tennessee.
I thought Tennessee. They were up twenty one to seven.
I'm thinking, all right, win these games. You know, what
else do you have there? Seaton?
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Let's see worst weekend in college football? How about Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yes, I know there was a hold on the touchdown
toss and you got to call that like that's blatant.
That's not one of those that I don't know we
can't kind of see that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We didn't have a good angle.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
It felt like the official chose not to call holding
on that play because it was a tackle.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It wasn't a hole.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The Notre Dame player got tackled and would have impacted
the quarterback's throw. But that was you lose at home.
And granted A and M is a ranked team, but
that's two now, Yeah, paulin.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Notre Dame's O two is not debilitating. Oh and two
like other teams, they played two tough teams, no cupcakes,
and the College Football Committee wants them in the playoffs.
So they just take care of business the next two
months and they'll be right back on the thick thing.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah they're oh and two sounds better than Clemson's one
and two oh way better. Yeah, what else do you
have seton?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's what we have for.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
The college Okay, we can switch over to you can
we put UCLA in there?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, if we need to, Well, their coach got fired.
That might be a decent weekend. I was going to
put that in some best thank goodness.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Oh and three, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, how many games did Foster get? Like fifteen games?
Ugly scenes there man, Well, nobody's there. They show the
like an aerial shot or sen That's where you got
to be really strategic in how you place your cameras.
Let's not show the entire stadium.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And now UCLA is going to start the tough part
of their schedule. They had easier games in theory.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, and welcome to the big ten.
Speaker 12 (20:02):
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Morvan and Nico the quarterback for UCLA, he might be
a cautionary tail or what not to do when concerning
nil and transferring.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Well, he bailed on Tennessee. He wanted more money, he
didn't get more money.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah. And Aguilar looks like he's you know, he had
a good game. He's real dang yeah u c l
A yeah point.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
UCLA has had this rep and we hear it a
lot that they're not serious financially about football, that they're at.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
The big into education or something.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
But uh, how dare you dare you be into education?
That's why I always laugh when somebody will say, hey,
you know what our great point averages? You know, three
point two is a team, and I go, how many
games do you win? Very proud of that, proud of
you know, we were bull eligible we won six games.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm like, okay, nobody.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We talk about a lot, but nobody. Nobody cares about
your GPA.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No one what the NFL? Who had the worst weekend?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
Oh, brother, worst weekend NFL edition? Paul's Chicago Bears. I'm
gonna take the Bengals off the board. Okay, because Joe
Burrow's out for three months.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That was a question. Okay, so Pauli's Bears. Yeah, the Dolphins. PAULI,
would you like to respond?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
It's very fair because again it's the first half of
September and you feel like it's a non threatening season.
It's hard to gonna be hard to watch football the
next three months.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
And I do think Caleb Williams is better than last year,
but I don't know if that's good enough because it
didn't matter how good Caleb Williams was yesterday. That defense
wasn't stopping anybody. All Right, who else do you have seton?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Let's see?
Speaker 7 (21:49):
We have, yeah, the Bears, we have the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's a tough week. It's a bad loss for the Dolphins. Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I love Mike McDaniel, but I like him because he's
a good guest. He's not the coach of my football team.
I don't know if he his personality at press conferences
are just a personality at a press conference, or is
this who he really is. Here's Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins
head coach, after the loss to the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
To win games, you have to win the game, not
lose the game, honestly, and that that is how you
lose the game.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You're moving the you're moving the ball down.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
The field, you're first and ten, and then you find
yourself at second and twenty. Uh you know that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Uh that was critical.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I thought Drake may played really, really well. I'm not
surprised the Patriots won that game. But when they're flying
a plane with a banner prior to the start of
the game saying fire, Mike McDaniel, I don't think it's
going to end well. But we kind of handicap this
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of if it starts to go south, do you end
up trading Tyreek Hill? Tyreek Hill didn't look too happy
on the sideline either.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
EJ. Manuel.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
He provides studio coverage every Saturday throughout the season on
ESPN with Matt Berry and Joey Galloway. Also co host
the ACC Network football podcast Good to see you again, EJ.
How do you think things are going in Clemson today?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Who first and foremost?
Speaker 13 (23:37):
Dan? Great to see you as well. I just want
to say you are an absolute legend. And since today's
my dad's birthday, we will wake up and watch them
on Sports Center every single day when I was young.
Not to ag yet all Dan, still look good, but
we want to give you your flowers here as I
joined the show. I'll tell you what, man, look, it's
probably a dark, gloomy, maybe rainy day in Clemson, South Carolina.
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And this is a team that came into the season
with so much hype and expectation preseason all Americans and
potential first overall pick in the quarterback and k Clubnick
and they just haven't played consistently well. And the crazy part,
Dan is they've been out physical in some portions of
the game. And going into this matchup with Jordia Tech,
who is a tough team because of their head coach
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and Brent Key, that's exactly what happened. And you know,
they made some plays, but ultimately Jeordia Tech made more
and that's what Tech has done since Key's been the
head coach.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
But do you think if I said, Notre Dame at
zero and two or Clemson at one and two, who's
in worse shape? You would say, I'd say Notre Dame
is in worse shape really, because, yeah, because they don't
have a conference championship to rely on.
Speaker 13 (24:45):
Dan So that's the part for Notre Dame as an
independent that we have to take into consideration. So even
if they go undefeated from this point forward, they're still
going to have to really have a resume that shows, hey,
we belong in the top twelve get into the playoff.
Whereas for Clemson, you look at it, this is just
one conference loss, so they still have a ton more
conference games to play. They went out, potentially still make
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it to Charlotte first weekend in December, can play for
ACS championship like they did last year. And they actually
lost one game in conference to Louisville in twenty twenty
four and still were able to make the playoffs. So
I would say right now, Notre Dame's in a bit more,
you know, tougher shape than Clemson.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Is what happened at uc LA.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Oh dude, do they.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Want to be a football program?
Speaker 12 (25:34):
You know?
Speaker 13 (25:34):
I had this conversation with Matt Barry and Joey Galloway
over the weekend as we're watching all the games, and
to me, Dan, I think it's a great job. You know,
we were having that discussion, is this a good spot
for another, you know, big name head coach, because I
know now Deshaun Foster is now fired. I think it's
a great spot and looked. I lived in LA for
three years once I finished playing with the Raiders. I
had a little place out there.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
It was great.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
Wes's beautiful. It always seemed like the sun was shining.
But as far as football, I don't know what it is.
I'm not sure if it's buying from you know, the
presidents or university presidents are just simply getting good players,
because I don't understand how you can be in Los
Angeles and not get really good talent in that area.
If you just draw a circle around LA, you should
be able to have a competitive team. So I don't
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know if it's going to the big ten. I'm not
sure if it's trying to figure it out with the
quarterback because keep in mind, nikol Ay Malava got there
pretty late in the process, so as a QB sometimes
you need six or seven months to really learn an
offense to truly master it. But right now, again similar
to what I said about Clemson, they're being out physical,
out coached at times, and that's why now they're going
to get a new head coach.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
The Tennessee kicker Max Gilbert, Yeah, he misses the field goal.
I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
What is it like to.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Go to class on that Monday after a bad game
you be in the quarterback Yeah, you know. I mean
at Florida State, this is different because if you're a
professional kicker, you're not seeing people other than your teammates
when you go to practice. This guy has to walk
on campus and go to classes, and what's that feeling like.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
It's not a good feeling at all, Dan, And you know,
it's one of those things I would alluded to this.
So imagine if there's a really pretty girl in class
that you sit next to and she saw you the
first couple of weeks like, hey, good game, I see
I'll start doing your thing, and then you go to
class that next Monday after a loss and she doesn't
say anything to you.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
And that's literally what it is.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Man.
Speaker 13 (27:23):
It's one of those just where you know you have
to wear it for the next six days until you
get a chance to play again and hopefully you win.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
But it's tough. It's definitely tough, not easy.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Miami Hurricanes contender.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
They are.
Speaker 13 (27:35):
I think their national championship contender is funny. I actually
texted the offensive coiner this morning, Shannon Dawson, and I
know I'm a seminal, so technically we.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Shouldn't like each other, but as a professional, you know.
Speaker 13 (27:45):
And also I was getting recruited by Mario chris Ball
years ago, so I've had a relationship with him. They
look really good. They're great in all three phases. Carson
Beck is playing at a high level. And I said
this back in the summer, Dan that when he got
to Miami being in this offense. If you watch the
growth of Quinn sam Ward last year, a lot of
this is because of play calling from Shanna Dawson to ROC.
So he's somebody to keep in mind as far as
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potential head coaching jobs in the future. But also they
got an excellent offensive line. Defense is really physical, so
Miami certainly is a contender.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Feels like everybody we're talking to. EJ.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Manuel ESPN college football studio analyst the arch Manning hype train.
There was no room, you know, even in coach class.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It was over hyped.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
And the machine now feels like there's plenty of room
in first class here for arch Manning. What have you
seen and if and I know, I don't know if
he was getting bowed, but the offense was getting bowed,
and he's the quarterback of that offense. But handicap what
you've seen and what we should expect out of Arch Manning, Well, what.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I've seen is him just not feeling comfortable. And I
don't know.
Speaker 13 (28:51):
If this is necessarily to play calls because he's been
in this offense for two seasons now going on three
as the backup in the first two, but you should
have some comfort of this point.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
And I do think this is partly just.
Speaker 13 (29:02):
The emotion of handling the expectation being a Manning and
your grandpa as a Hall of Famer, your two uncles
of Hall of famers, and all the you know talk
that goes into the offseason and shoot, I mean he
was on preseason lists as a first teamer and I
even really played a full season, and so those types
of things. I think one has shown that he's human
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and we all know that he's human, but I think
this is an area where you still see a young
man that's growing, that's learning. I'm sure if you ask
coach Sarkesian, does he expecting to play better?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Sure?
Speaker 13 (29:32):
But as a young, inexperienced still quarterback. This is what
his fifth or sixth start of his career. Dan, He
is technically, you know, on on time. And the good
thing too, they've only lost to Ohiose State in close fashion.
They won these two most recent games, again not against
tough opponents, but the team's still winning.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
So I think right now.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
For archers about building confidence. Continue to play with great
timing like he did in twenty twenty four, and that's
really why I think the hype was there because he
looked really good. But it is a different layer of
being the backup versus when you're the full time guy.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You look back at your rookie season in the NFL.
If I could say to you, you could change something,
because it feels like all of these rookie quarterbacks come
in and they all make the same mistake. Take me
back to that rookie season and how you felt and
what you didn't realize.
Speaker 13 (30:19):
Yeah, that's a great, great question. So the one thing
that I would look back on. This is probably gonna
surprise people, but I actually got hurt in the preseason.
So I tore my meniscus in the second preseason game,
same injury that JJ McCarthy had last year as a
rookie and got surgery, fought back to be able to play,
and all that kind of stuff. And truly, man, looking back,
when I wish I advocated for myself and say, coach,
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can I get fully healthy before I start my NFL career,
because you get judged as if you're fully healthy, And
so that was one part of it. The other part too,
I think, just continue to grow and learn the game,
and also reaching out to veterans, reaching out to other guys,
even if they weren't on my team, reaching out to
a Donovan McNabb or a Warren Moon or Michael Vick,
guys who I knew you would be willing to help
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me and to you know, kind of teach me in
the off seasons.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Of just how to be a pro.
Speaker 13 (31:06):
That was one thing I didn't really have within the
locker room. But as far as playing, look, I mean,
you got to make the froze, you got to make
the reads. You got to be accountable as well when
you win, and certainly have to be accountable when you lose.
But looking back when, of course, I still wish I
was out there playing, because I got buddies who are
still out there going. But I'm proud of it, and
it is what it is. I learned a ton while
I was in Buffalo, met some great people, and still
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root for the Bills to this day.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, but I see these quarterbacks. They don't step up
in the pocket. They think that they can make a play.
Even cam Ward rolling right and throwing back left is
a terrible throw. It is, I mean, a great, great result,
but a terrible terrible.
Speaker 13 (31:45):
So let me touch on that. I think a little
bit of it is again an experience. I think the
other part is these quarterbacks were able to get away
with it in college and you assume, hey, I can
still make this play.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
And you know what, Dan, the game has changed.
Speaker 13 (31:59):
I mean the game now the quarterback position is predicated
off of athleticism. I mean, the best quarterbacks in our
league right now, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, like,
these guys are all very agile, very good athletes that
can move around and make plays.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
So you're right.
Speaker 13 (32:14):
Sometimes it's not a pretty play. It's not you know,
the basic hey five in a hitch or seven in
a hitch, step up in the pocket. But you know, again,
for young quarterbacks, I think it's a little bit of
grace and giving them that opportunity to grow and make mistakes.
And as long as there's a plan. I think that's
the other thing too, damn for young quarterbacks. There has
to be a plan set in place for them for
three years to say, hey, look, you got to hit
this benchmark. You got to get and show me that
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you've had this amount of growth in this amount of time.
And that way, I can think you can actually scale
the amount of growth that you've seen from guys. I've
got Patrick Mahomes, look at Josh Allen, how they grew,
you know, in their early tenures. Jordan Love, you know,
he got to sit for three seasons before he came
to Starter.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
So a lot of it's about development.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Joe Burrow's not doing anything athletically for the next three months.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
Yeah, that is unfortunate. I saw that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, for turf toe, that's one of those when you
hear turf toe Jack Lambert I think ended his career
with turf toe, Dion with turf toe.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I it's just one of those injuries where you go,
huh yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (33:10):
It's tough too because Joe's playing so well. He is playing,
So I actually was watching the Quarterback series on Netflix
and just getting a peek behind his mind and how
he goes about his daily life as far as a QB.
So it's unfortunate. Look, you know, I think it's Jake
Browning who's going to be the backup. You know, he's
played well, and I know that he's still got some
really good pieces of T Higgins and Jim ar Chase
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and those kind of guys to still make some plays
for him. So you know, coz that got a lot,
a lot of work to do at this point, but
they'll certainly be missing Joe.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
My best to your father, Happy birthday to your father,
and great to talk to.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You again, EJ.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Likewise, thanks Dan, EJ.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Manuel.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
He was the sixteenth pick overall out of Florida State
back in twenty thirteen, and every Saturday throughout the season
he's with Matt Barry Joey Galloway on the mother Ship.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah, Paul, it's such a full circle interview.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
We had EJ.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Manual on two weeks before the NFL Draft, and he
blew us away with the interview. We all fell in
love with the guy, and that was two weeks before
his draft.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, it was one of those where I came away saying,
I don't know how good he's gonna be, but I'm
rooting for him. We'll take a break, we'll get to
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Speaker 2 (35:37):
Who called in?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Shan Irving joining us after that impressive Dallas Cowboys win yesterday.
Speaker 12 (35:45):
Hey Shay Dany, you've got to be kid be with
that win. What we witnessed yesterday is what the Cowboys
actually are, not being able to put away a bad
giant team. Defense, optional deck thro the ball fifty two times,
twenty five designed runs. Shody is nothing but the ginger
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two point zero making Russell Wilson look like freaking Joe
Montana and Danny. It took the Gospel of John to
get me through this game. The truth shall you free?
This team ate nothing without the best kicker in the
history of the NFL. Thank God for the MVP.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Imagine if you had a pass rusher yesterday, would that
have helped you think?
Speaker 12 (36:31):
Unbelieve you know what? You know what? I fell over
my chair, Danny. Guess who got a freaking sack? Kenny Clark.
Kenny Clark got a second. The amount of tweets I
got after that freaking I want to throw my phone
to the river. Danny.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Uh, it's gonna be a rough year for you. When
your best player is your kicker. You know that, it's
not a lot of highlights when you go can't wait
for him to come on the field.
Speaker 12 (36:56):
Thank God for him. We're o to without him. And
Jerry Jones is just crying it Danny. The defense, the
secondary and how do you let Dak throw the ball?
I know its overtime. He had like forty seven forty
eight passa tips at the end of the game versus
twenty five design rows. What the hell are they doing?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Did you watch the game by yourself?
Speaker 12 (37:17):
Hopefully I did? Yeah, I s get my kids, so
you know I missed you eleven soccer all day, which
you know, real heartbreaker there, and then I had to
watch this monstrosity.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Well, enjoy the win.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
Please give me a break.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Thank you Shay. I did think about them.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You know, it's going back and forth, and I just
can't imagine that gets good that he's watching by himself
because you can't have kids around him.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You can't even have grown ups around him.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, Paul, I'm in a better mood than Shay and
I'm a bear sound.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, at least one Al in Atlanta. Speaking of winners,
hi Al, welcome back. Best and worst kid want him?
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Dam I got a best and then I got one
that you guys can decide whether it is. So Saturday,
we had a watch party for college football all day
and the cheer that brought all the women in from
the dining hall because they're there more for the party
than the game party of the gathering into the room
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when that Tennessee kicker missed that field goal wide right,
so the room was packed to watch Georgia winning overtime.
Definitely the best feeling of the weekend. And then Sunday
came and I was stressing all day waiting for Sunday night,
not knowing what's gonna happen because I'm purposely overslept yesterday
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I did last week, so I could not be able
to call in and have to face that horrible loss,
not knowing what the Falcons are gonna give me. And
the game finally gets there and it's just a stressful Oh,
we can't do anything offense in the Reds kicking field goals.
Thank god, we I'm a kicker has hit field goals
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finally and if we don't pull it out until the
end and we get a win, but does it really
mean anything because I'm feeling before if we've been won
and one in the past, I can't remember the last
time it was. But we were there and.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Okay, it took you a long time to get to
the A. You least won the game, Lucas in Texas.
Best and Worst, Luke, Hey Dame.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Good morning, good morning, all right, best and worst.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Best.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
I'm gonna go with my sextons A m Aggie's find
some stellar offensive line play, especially late in the game,
pulling off that big win at Notre Dame. A win
is a win and we will get out of sound
as quick as we can with it. My worst of
the weekend. I want to nominate New York Giants offensive
lineman Jane Hudson for the worst offensive series in NFL history.
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He saw it live. He had four penalty I think
one personal foul holding off fall start all in about
two real term minutes of the.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Game, and then he had a meltdown on the sidelines
after that. Thank you, Lucas Satan. Would you update the
poll results from the first hour of the program? Yeah,
Worst Weekend College football edition. Your options were Clemson, Tennessee,
Notre Dame, and UCLA. Clemson base about thirty five percent
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of that vote, but then there's a two way tie
between Notre Dame and UCLA for second. Yeah, when you
get blown out and you lose your coach, that's a
bad weekend. A small crowd, that's a bad weekend. Throwing
in Virginia Tech for honorable mentioned question feels like that
coach is dead men walking five years. Yeah, one hour
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in the books on this Monday, best and worst of
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
More of your phone calls.
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