December 12, 2024 • 40 mins
The only thing on the agenda for this hour is a soup-to-nuts discussion of Bill Belichick officially becoming the University of North Carolina’s Head Football Coach.
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the Day, poll question, stat of the Day, all of
that forthcoming. The big news is North Carolina has hired
Bill Belichick. After winning six Super Bowls in the NFL,
Belichick is onto his next challenge, and that's coaching in college,
which is something he's never done before. And I think
that the surprise is well, he was going to be
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the NFL's all time victory holder, he would surpass Don Shula.
But over the last year and a half, the league's
interest in Belichick hasn't has been as robust as he
probably thought and certainly we thought as well. So he
turned his attention to college, or maybe college turned its
attention to him. But as I said, for the last
couple of days, I think he realized he was not
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going to get a job in the NFL. Plenty of
other NFL head coaches have found success going to college,
Jim Harball with Michigan, Pete Carroll usc Nick Saban, who
didn't coach well with the Dolphins, went to Alabama, although
he did well at LSU. So the transition from Belichick
NFL to college football, ACC football, a football program at
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a basketball school. And there are a lot of people.
I think there's a surprising amount of people, maybe more
people who have a negative reaction to Bill succeeding than
a positive reaction because we hear the same things. His age,
relatability with an eighteen or nineteen year old, nil transfer portal,
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what's he know about the college game? So these are
all the things that and it's fair to question this
or at least observe this and give a reasonable answer
of yes or no. He's going to be able to
do this. He's the most prepared coach of all time.
The fact that he had a four one hundred page dossier.
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He went in there and said, hey, here, I'll give
you everything about your program, what I want, what I
need assessing the ACC. So he's going in prepared. It's
not like he's going to go in and go, hey,
what's this nil? That's name, image and likeness. Oh now
the transfer portal? Where is that on campus? Where do
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the kids come in from on the portal? No, No,
it's just kind of a name. It's the transfer portal. Wait,
they're getting paid. He's going to be prepared when he
goes in Hey, plus, what is success for Bill Belichick
in college? Nine wins, ten wins? And you're also buying
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into Bill Belichick. You're buying into Carolina. You're buying into Yes,
they are a basketball school. You got the Jordan brand
there as well. It's still powerful with Bill Bellichie on
the sidelines. He still knows how it's coaching football. Whether
it's high school, college, pro, you're coaching football. Nobody is
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better at adapting quarter to quarter, half to half, game
to game than Bill Belichick in the history of the sport.
I have to believe you're going to take this job.
He'll be all in on this job, and he knows
his son is going to be there with him. He's
probably going to bring in a lot of his coaches
he had new England. You're getting Mike Lombardi, who's been
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around the NFL for decades. He'll be his GM. He's
going to bring in experience people, just like Dion did.
Remember when Dion got to Colorado, I said, Dion will
be successful if he brings in really good coaches because
he'll be the CEO. And what do you have after
one and a half years, two years, Dion has his
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team at least knocking on the door to be a
playoff team next year, and they certainly were this year. Now,
do I think that is what Bill's going to do? Well,
He's not to bring in his son doesn't play quarterback.
Is he going to be able to bring in a
player like Travis Hunter, who everybody wanted and was going
to go to Florida State? I think the key will
be does he get his quarterback just like he had
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in New England and they kept Tom there. You can't
keep your quarterback in college. They'll stay, but maybe they'll
stay for four years. Can you get a franchise type quarterback?
Because if you go back and listen to what Bill
Belichick said on the Pat McAfee show on Monday, he's
looking at college football the way he did the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It seems like college football is more like pro football.
I've talked to a lot of college coaches about things
like the salary cap and putting value on players and
negotiating and kind of mixing all that together. So I
think there are some similarities from what I've heard. I
have an experience at first ND.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Okay, what's the down sign? He fails? If you're Carolina
you took a shot. Can you imagine that conversation with
Mac Brown? Hey Mac, we're going to go with somebody younger.
He's a year younger than you. So you bring in
Belichick the relatability. I don't know how much he has
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to relate. Oh is he going to go on the
road and recruit? No, he's not. They have something called zoom.
All of a sudden, Mom and Dad, Hey, coach Belichick
is on the zoom wants to talk to you. I
think that's probably pretty powerful. How many other college coaches
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Dion Belichick? Who else would you put in there? And
you go, hey, stop everything coaches on the phone with
me or on a zoom. It's still a powerful brand there.
Now is he going to want to put up with
all the smaller things? I don't think he's going to
be dealing with the smaller things. He doesn't deal with nil.
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He probably won't deal with transfer portal. Now everything is
going to be run by him. There's no salary camp.
You're playing in the ACC feels like it's up for grabs.
If Carolina is getting money together, they're collective. Okay, if
I just say to Bill Belichick, just coach, we have
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everybody else who take care of other things. Dion doesn't
do everything. Dion is a CEO. That's what Bill will be.
But Bill is obviously a better coach than Dion. He's
not as good as CEO, but he'll be a better coach. Now,
the people you put around you, who do you recruit?
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And does this matter to these kids who are eighteen
or nineteen, Because if I'm eighteen or nineteen, I may
not really care about Bill Belichick. My dad or mom
may care. My high school coach may care. I want
to get ready to go to the NFL. That's what
this is about, and I think think Bill going there. Bill,
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Bill's got a chip on his shoulder. I truly believe that, Hey,
Tom did this, and Tom went to Tampa and meanwhile
I held on for four more years and we were terrible,
And yeah I did make the playoffs with mac Jones,
but it didn't end well Tom. It feels weird, though,
just like Tom had something to prove. At least he felt, hey,
I can do this without Bill. Bill wants to prove
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that he can still be a great coach no matter
where he's going. I thought he was going to stay
in the NFL. If he was going to coach again.
But I didn't think he was going and said this,
I didn't think he was coaching in the NFL again.
I just didn't think he was coaching in college because
I didn't know if he I just want to coach,
and that's what it feels like, and you set your
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son up. He obviously wants to kind of put in
place a system that his son will then inherit in
let's say three years, and it'll be successful. And I'm
sure Bill will stay on with the program. But I see,
you know far more positives than I do negative. But
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this whole out of touch thing, I don't know if
Bill was ever in touch with the Patriots. You know,
it's not like they were like, Man, I really know him,
and yeah, he's got a great sense of humor, Okay,
relatability an eighteen nineteen year old. I don't know what
they're going to be asking from Bill. I don't know
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what Bill is going to be giving them other than hey,
I want to make you a player ready to play
in the NFL. That's what they want to hear. How
much do I get paid? And am I going to play?
And hopefully I get a chance to play in the NFL. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
See, I'm curious what kind of player positionally is most
interested in going to North Carolina now, because if I
was a player like say, like a Jaden Daniels type
or somebody like m I don't know if that's the
way I want to go.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
But if I'm a you.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Know, defensive lineman or not an offensive lineman, even you know,
a linebacker, somebody like, hell, yeah, this is exactly what's
gonna get me to the NFL. So I'm curious how
the team will take shape based on that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, and I you know, Bill's whole thing is next
guy up. Let's say you have somebody who wants eight
million dollars and Bill might say, no, we'll find somebody else.
I don't think he'll have the patience for that that
He always was next man up with the Patriots, and
we'll probably be that way with North Carolina. But who
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cared about North Carolina prior to this? You know, the
last time we talked about him is when they lost
to a school named after a founding father. They lost,
They gave up seventy points to Jimmy Madison. What do
you That's when we go, Oh my god, they could
have scored one hundred on North Carolina. Mac Brown's gonna
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go like that's it. Nobody else cares. He put him
on He at least put him on the football map. Yes,
it's a basketball school, just like Kentucky football. Now Georgia basketball.
Arkansas used to be a football school. Now it feels
like it's a basketball school. It does happen, it does,
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But is it going to change there in North Carolina?
It won't. Well, if they win, people are still gonna,
you know, ask, you know, Hubert Davis, how's the team
gonna be? Now do you introduce Bill Belichick at a
North Carolina basketball game? Right? You got to bring him out,
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Just don't have him do the Brian Kelly haven't even
won all my game. If he comes up with a
Southern accent, I'm gonna call bs on Belichick.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And what he says is and he's gonna pull a Tressel.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And when we play Duke on October twelveth we're winning.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Gets the rivalry, He gets us, He gets us, you
know what matters.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's just when he says, you know, I saw an article,
it's like, hey, he's going to win the press conference. Really,
when does Bill want a press conference? I get it.
Maybe Pat mcavee unlocked the personality chest that he has
the cabinet there, it's like, hey man, he that dude
is a he's a talking hairdoo. There. No Bill will
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talk to football people. He doesn't want to talk to us.
He doesn't want to talk to you know, the media.
But I think Bill, we're talking about North Carolina football.
That's a win, Dog, that's a win. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
The most important thing regarding this entire situation is what
color sweatshirt is Belichick gonna wear? Because I'm not sure
if he's going to rock the powder blue.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
He can't go that's two that to blue for him.
I think he's got to go dark blue with maybe
maybe some light blue on the On the sleeves, yes, Pauline.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
No sleeves. You go it's hot down there in September.
You're gonna go sleeveless gun show.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Let's do it. M yes. One.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I think the beginning of the year, since it's going
to be eighty five ninety degrees their first couple of games.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
M hm.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
He's gonna have a polo Onnavy blue.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
Polo with the North Carolina on the side.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Maybe tank top. You know, all right when we come
back the over under for victories for North Carolina next season,
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it's going to be a disaster at North Carolina, I'd
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to the former defensive back now analysts for the Mothership
Dominic Foxworth and Stuart Mandel from the Athletic. He did
not mince words. He thinks this will be a desaster
with Belichick and Carolina Chapel Bill. By the way, we
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Speaker 2 (14:29):
We'll settle on a pole question. By the way, Oh,
by the way, West Virginia picked the wrong day to
announce Rich Rodriguez was coming back to code for the
perfect day, possibly the perfect day.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, like h O.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Wait then he used to be there he did. Then
he went to Michigan. It didn't go well. Then he
went to Arizona and then he started taking jobs as
assistant coaches, then went to Jacksonville State, and now he's
back at West Virginia. Congratulations, coach Richard. I think he
was in Hawaii. I mean he had gone quite a
few places.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Yes, marv if your missus Rodriguez, you're just thinking to yourself, well,
we moved all these places we could in the Stadia
in West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Maybe they didn't sell their house. Maybe they just moved back.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, seton probably like you know, there was a step
in Hawaii there for a minute, that was nice, yes, Paul, Yeah,
rich rod was at West Virginia during the heyday one
through seven almost yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
And then yeah, they were both good and cool back then.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Then he went to Michigan.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
You can't pass on that did two years there, Arizona,
then assistant jobs, Ole, miss Hawaii, UL Monroe, Jacksonville State,
and he's done very well there and now West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. But the big news Bill Belichick. Should we just
make the poll question about Belichick? Will this be good
or bad? Or what's the wording You're gonna use Seaton.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Well, you know, there's a lot of wordings that we
could use.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, I know Fritzie sent me Bill Belichick's tenure at
North Carolina will be widely successful or a complete disaster.
There's no middle ground there. Did you have any other wording?
Maybe not as specific Seaton.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
You know what's interesting about that is that you know
how your eyes are, like your brain can play tricks
on you. I've read that it's wildly successful, and it's
actually widely all right, AnyWho Todd has? Do you want
Bill Belichick to be successful? Will Bill Belichick ever coach
an NFL game? We have more likely to happen over
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the next four years. Bill Belichick will be out of
college football or in the college football playoff like that.
That's a Paul papstism we also have from Paul PAVs.
Would you rather which record? Would you rather have most wins?
Most rings?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We already have most rings?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah, but he's on he could have most Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I don't think people look at Don Shula as the
greatest coach of all time because he has the most wins.
That it's all about super Bowl rings. You know, chula
place in history is secure. But I think it's about
how many Super Bowl rings you have. Yes, but if there's.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
One fella right now who does care about Don Schule's numbers,
it's got to be Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Right. Are you saying that he couldn't get a job
in the NFL if it was that important, don't you
hold out hope that you can get a job in
the NFL. And I've been saying all along, I just
I think that these teams don't want to turn their
team franchise over to Bill Belichick. They just don't. But
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I can't look at this and go how long is
he going to be there? What's the career expectancy of
coaches in the NFL? Now? Three years? Can Bill survive
three years? Can he turn the team around in three years?
I believe so? But I just don't think these general managers, presidents,
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owners wanted to turn it over to Bill Belichick. And
that's why he took the North Carolina jobs. The bigger
surprise is was there another college coach or college program
that reached out to him and said, oh my god,
Belichick wants to coach college. By then, he was all
in with Carolina and his dad coached there, an assistant
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coach back. I think in the fifties. I don't know
what Bill remembers from that or his father told him
about that experience. College football certainly changed an awful lot
since the fifties, But how did it start? Does Bill
reach out? Does Carolina reach out? Now we're going to
find out kind of the embryonic stages of this over
the next week or so, maybe when he's on McAfee
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that he can say, can we get specific here who
reached out to whom? But I got the over under
for wins from DraftKings this morning, North Carolina wins in
twenty twenty five. Paulie, I'm going to start with you.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
The over under will be seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Marvin eight and a half, Todd six and a half. Bloop, bloop, bloop.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
I was gonna say, what those other two number, Ye'll
take it, So I figured it's got to be six
and a half that if.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's not those, it is six and a half, six
and a half wins. That'll be a win for the
critics where they go, yeah, see, I don't expect miracles
right away. Just like with Dion, they won one game,
they won four. Now you know what are they going
to win this year? Twelve games? Eleven games? It'll take
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him a little while. And Dion was a great salesman.
But Dion had the advantage of having his son, who
is going to be the number one quarterback taken and
the number one player take in Travis Hunter. You start
with those two guys anywhere. If you said Belichick got
those two guys, you would pencil them in for ten
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wins this year. Can he get a couple of those
impact players? Can get those guys who normally would go
to Clemson or Florida State in the acca, That'll be
the key, Yes, Marton.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Where does Bill Belichick make his first public appearance as
a new North Carolina coach?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
When's North Carolina's next basketball game?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Check him?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, that's where I would unveil Bill. Now, do you
bring Bill and his girlfriend? Out?
Speaker 9 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You do not.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
You do not. So he's not going to the Fenway Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I don't think he's going to the Fenway Bull. Who's
playing in the Fenway.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Bull North Carolina and Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh they did make a ball?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
He did? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay? Oh wow, man, I missed that one. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
When we play NC State November sixth, Yeah, we're going
to win.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
And if they put Bill Belichick on the big screen
the JumboTron, does he have a big smiling grin or
does he play the Bill Belichick kind of?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
I don't like this attention. I got to focus on
getting this team ready.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
What do you think?
Speaker 8 (21:05):
I don't think he does the big smile thing.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
I think he plays a little like you know, I'm
still a Bill Belichick.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
I don't need this attention. Then it's great that you
put me on the big screen, but I got work
to do.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yes, Seedon, That's what's gonna be weird for me is
we just had a year of seeing like, Wow, Bill
Belichick can smile. Bill Belichick tells stories, Bill Belichick laughs,
Bill Belichick has jokes. This is amad look at this personality.
And now what he's going to go back to? Now
I'm standing behind the podium, so I'm just gonna ben
he is really.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Seton brought up a great point this morning. We were
talking about this and Seton goes, yeah, the breaking news.
Can we get breaking news? There's Seaton brought up a
great point, But there you go. Seton's got to provide
the sound effects too. But Seton was saying that here's well,
you go ahead and tell him your great, great idea
or your great observation. With Bill Belichick, You're gonna have
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to be more specific that he likes talking to football people.
Oh yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Part of the reason that we're seeing his personality so
much is because when he's on with Pat McAfee, Pat
McAfee is a football guy. When he's on with the Mannings,
Eli and Payton or football guys, he likes talking football
with football people. And if you're somebody holding a notepad
taking down quotes, he doesn't. Why am I going to
talk to you? Yes, he does talk down to us.
What am I going to talk to you for? Like
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you're the dude on that side? Ye, I like talking
to the people on this side.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The great unwashed that's us doesn't have time for us.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean I kind of get it sometimes, I
really really do. Just based on the wave, watching the
way media behaves as a hive.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, I definitely get it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And that's why when we would try to get interviews
with Belichick at the Mothership, you would normally send somebody
who played the game, although he had great respect for
Chris Berman, but you send somebody that Bill will talk
to because he feels like, all right, you're kind of
you're not on my level, but you're in the room,
you're in the neighborhood with me. And I think he
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really respected McAfee probably you know the check that he
wrote as well. But still McAfee is a very bright guy.
The Manning cast, with the Manning brothers, he feels like
he can talk to them, not explain things or you know,
have to talk down to somebody. But Bill's going to
go back to being Bill Belichick. I don't think that
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all of a sudden, his twenty three year old girlfriend
or being on TV with McAfee or the Mannings all
of a sudden unlocked that personality. It's like, I'm free
last I can be myself. I love musicals, you know
what else I love. I don't think that's going to happen.
I'm a devastating cook. I love to cook. I don't
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think that's going to happen with Bill. He's going to
go back to being a curmudgeon. That's going to be
his persona. So when somebody says he's going to win
the press conferences, I don't think so. Don't think so.
All right, So what's the wording on the Belichick poll
question for hour one?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Uh, well, we're going to put up a few of
them there because we got a lot of good options. Okay,
I think we'll just start off with something basic like
it'll be successful or a disaster.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, that's fine, so widely or wildly successful or a
complete disaster. Correct, All right, fair enough. Paulie also brought
this up. He had a good idea before the start
of the show. Yeah, yes, unbelievable this morning. Good ideas.
Does Bill Belichick continue to do the Pat McAfee show
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next year Wood McAfee, Wood Belichick, because that's free advertising.
Bill shows up once a week talking football, Paul.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Historically, Bill Belichick is on absolute lockdown during a football season,
complete lockdown with the media, just the bare minimum. But
like you said, this is he'll be in his UNC
office and UNC gear, do a little NFL keep your
toe in it, talk about a little bit, and then
say what's up. You know, Pat's going to play to
the crowd, play the Bill and you put him on
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the Manning cast. What six times seven times you get
paid and free advertising. There's no downside to it for
Bill younger crowd.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I don't find him interesting on McAfee if he's at Carolina,
because he famously says he didn't watch college football. Now
all of a sudden, like is the one game he
watched was Army Navy. He never watched college football. Now,
when you're totally immersed in college football, is he going
to be watching the NFL? I can't imagine there'd be
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no reason for him to be watching the NFL. And
if you're on McAfee, you want him talking NFL, not
let me tell you about the game coming up with Clemson. Yes, Todd,
he doesn't.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Need the money, but I agree with PAULI, it's easy cash.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
It's great publicity for the school, and coaches in college
especially do all kinds of radio and TV shows, so
it's not any ground breaking thing.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
I'd be surprised if we wouldn't make time to still
do that on some level.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Thank you to Well.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Yes, Paul, I can't wait for If I told you
three years ago there's gonna be a college game day
next year with Nick Saban interviewing Bill Belichick at North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah you would have said, what, Yeah, Yeah, you know.
It's one of those where I go. I think I've
seen everything. I've been doing this for over forty years,
and then all of a sudden, yesterday happens. I never
say never, I never say something doesn't have a chance.
But when this first started, I thought, Wow, this is Bill.
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Bill is doing a solid for North Carolina. And then
all of a sudden, I'm thinking, maybe it's a negotiating
ploy with a Jacksonville. You better pony up. Bill's getting
ten million dollars at North Carolina for five years. He
would have gotten a lot more than he would have
gotten twenty million, you know, if he was going to
coach in the NFL. But this isn't about money. From
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the standpoint of now, he is open the door and
set the stage for his son, who's a defensive coordinator
at Washington, to be able to come in and be
a head coach in the NFL or college. I don't
think Bill coaches in the NFL again. I think if
he coaches again, it'll be lacrosse assistant.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I just I don't.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I just don't see. I don't think the NFL is
going to reach out to him.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
That's so Yeah, Paul, going back to before Bill took
this job the past three or four days. I thought
hurt a lot of people. NFL type people say, Oh,
he won't go to college, he has unfinished business. He
has to get Schule's record. I think that's so overblown.
That record does nothing for him. The rings do it all.
Everyone says he's the greatest coach in history. This North
Carolina does way more for his legacy if it works
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out well than Don Schule's record.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Way more. Stuart Mandel, the athletic who will join us
coming up a little bit later on. He opens up
his column by saying, congratulations, North Carolina, you manage to
hire someone completely unqualified to be your next football coach.
You did that thing so many schools do when they
try to win the press conference instead of win football games.
It rarely works. He'll join us coming up a little
(28:12):
bit later on. The column doesn't get any nicer, just
letting you know. I was surprised because we've known Stuart
Mandel for a long time. He's not a hot take guy.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Completely unqualified.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
As a statement, Yeah, he also said, I realized I
may get excommunicated from the football world for daring to
question the merits of a six time Super Bowl champion coach.
But let's remove the name Bill Belichick and replace it
with coach X. Here is who North Carolina just hired.
And then he goes into all of these things that
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he's never dealt with. The transfer portal. Is he going
to be recruiting, He's never recruited all of these things.
I mean, I'm surprised that Stuart would go in and
you know, not give Belichick the credit of attention to detail. No,
he is not recruited, No, nil, transfer portal, all of
(29:07):
those things. Do you think that he'll be up to
speed pretty soon on that? I do. He says buttoned
up as any coach in the history of coaches being
buttoned up, and he has something to prove. He has
to prove that he can coach again, which is amazing.
The greatest football coach of all time probably feels like
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I have to prove that I can coach again, and
I'm going to do it at a basketball school. I
think it's pretty amazing. Jake and Buffalo, Hi, Jake, what's
on your mind? DP?
Speaker 11 (29:45):
I just wanted your thoughts given that North Carolina isn't
just a football school, they also have the top tier
basketball team.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
How do you think it's going.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
To work when the NIL fund has to be split
across both those programs. Do you think Belichick and this
pro style program he's talked about are going to be
enticing enough for the younger kids to maybe have them
take less money than other schools who are solely focused
on football might offer.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I don't know. I don't know what the collective is
going to be. Is it going to be Ohio State
money twenty million dollars? Probably not. But he needs to
find his quarterback. You find your quarterback. Now, all of
a sudden, Bill can say I'm going to take care
of the defense. Maybe he brings in Josh McDaniels and says, Josh,
you take care of the offense. Mike Lombardi a longtime
(30:30):
football guy, Hey, Mike, you take care of the nil.
You take care of a transfer portal Like this is
how it's all delegated. You're not going to do everything.
He's not the GM where he was in New England.
They're going to take some things off his plate. I
would just say, Bill, coach, you coach, because we will
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have an advantage every single game that we go into.
Why because we have that guy as our head coach
Edwin in North Carolina. Hi Edwin.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
A second time, long time. Five to eleven, not so bad.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Two twenty just calling in about the Bill Belichick. I
agree with you. I think I think it's good for
the state. I think a big football state. I was
also kind of to your point as well. I don't know,
I feel like you know, he has a chip on
his shoulder, and I think with the college he's just
(31:29):
trying to, you know, prove it to everybody else. So
I think the window for him to go back to
the NFL's too close, is closed because of his age.
But you know, like you said, I think bringing in
Josh McDaniels maybe, and a'sn.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
AS defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
I just want to hear more about your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'll hang up with all right, Thank you, Thank you, Edwin.
And I just heard from a great college college source
and he just sent an email. He said that Belichick
was pursued by the chair of the board of trustees.
So you're going all the way up now. Everybody's going
to be in with you. This isn't just the athletic director.
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And my source goes on to say, overall North Carolina
is comfortable taking these steps as part of a broader
strategy to build and retro fit itself to be ready
as a get ready for this a prospective SEC or
Big ten member. So this is this is a bigger
(32:27):
picture here. But I think the biggest thing is going
to be the financial commitment. So you have that. My
source goes on to say, in addition to staffing, it
will become clear that the school is increasing its NIL
commitment more than get ready for this five percent. I'd
(32:52):
say they're all in. Now you have the financial backing.
You can staff however you want to. Most of the
guys he's bringing in probably are not working right now. Now,
you say, Bill, you coach. These things are set up
like corporations. They're businesses. This is about money making and
(33:18):
a bigger picture according to my source of can we
be worthy for the SEC or the Big ten down
the road here? So bigger play? All right, just getting started.
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have to laugh at the nil that Belichick is somehow
not going to figure out this nil. Well, you know
it's called free agency in the NFL. Isn't that what
NIL is? We want to pay you a lot of
money to come to our program. We want to pay
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you a lot of money to come to our school.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
So wait, you're telling me there's this period of time
where players can try to negotiate with other teams that
they might want to play for Bill. I'm never going
to get that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I can't figure that out. Bill was the GM of
the Patriot.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
What did I signed myself up for?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
He had to deal with this. The transfer portal was
free agency in the NFL. I like how we think
that people coaches have actually figured out the NIL. It's
still as unstable as ever. It's not like you go,
that guy's really figured it out the transfer portal. NIL.
(35:49):
He's going to be fine if they have money in place,
his staff in place, and he'll they're going to ask
him to coach, and once again he shows up, he
will have an advantage over every coach in America because
he's Bill Belichick. Now is he going to get the players?
Not the first year? But just like I said with Dion,
(36:11):
if you didn't get him the first year, you weren't
going to get him the second year, and that's what happened.
And great time to hire him mid December. He's got
the transfer portal, like all of this is unfolding right
in front of him. Timing is great, but I really
think you embarrass yourself when you question if Belichick is
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going to be able to figure out the transfer portal
or nil. First of all, he doesn't have to deal
with nil. They have people who do that transfer portal.
They have people who do that recruiting. Put him on
a zoom call. You don't think that's impactful? Belichick? In
your house, Mom and Dad, you all of a sudden,
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you hear the clanking and it's Super Bowl rings. I
brought that. Oh yeah that was Remember when Tom threw
the touch? Now that's Carolina, Yeah that was. I forget
what ring this one is for now? Am I surprised
he did it? Yes?
Speaker 11 (37:13):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Would I be surprised that he's not successful? Yes? I
would be. Let's see what do we have here? Uh?
Sean and Oregon? Hi, Sean, welcome back.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Hey Dan.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
It sounds like you're pleading with us to believe this
is going to be successful here, and I just wanted
to make a couple of points here. And you know
why we think it's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (37:39):
You know, well see he wasn't able to replace Tom
Brady and find that quarterback after Tom left. You know,
Tom Brady left New England went and won the Super Bowl.
The Patriots were left in his shambles and when in
college football. You got to find your quarterback every couple
of years. This what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But there's no draft, there's no rule, Sean.
Speaker 10 (38:01):
No, you know there's a lot of competition out there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I know, but you're still Bill Belichick. You have
to adhere to a draft order trying to find your guy.
And he's not alone at not finding quarterbacks. There's a
lot of teams that have not found quarterbacks. But now
you don't have any restrictions. You can poach somebody if
you want to. You can have somebody already made, just
like you know Brian Kelly did with Jayden Daniels. Just
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bring him in, pay him money, let him go out
there and win for you.
Speaker 10 (38:33):
Well, you know what, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon will all have
more players going to the NFL than North Carolina will.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yes, yes, they've they've been doing this a long time. Sean,
that that I mean, do you really think that's the
downside that he's not going to get a quarterback. He
couldn't get a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Well, maybe maybe Michael Lombardi can help him, and maybe
his cousin Jimmy Jimmerson, Because I think Jimmy Jimmerson is
somehow really to Michael Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
All right, well thank you, Sean mac Brown got Drake May.
I just believe Belichick can get a couple of quarterbacks.
You can't do that in the NFL. In college, you can,
He'll find.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
And look, I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just
telling you why I'm convinced, just because I don't doubt him. Now,
did he lose touch? Was their ego in play with
the PA? Yes, all of those things. Do I think
this was? You know about Belichick and then Tom or
Tom then Belichick. I don't get caught up in it.
You have to have one to have the other. If
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you don't have both, like this is Kansas City. You
got Andy and you got Patrick, then you can have success.
You can't have an average coach and you know, a
Hall of Fame quarterback or vice versa.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yes, yes, I feel like it's pretty well documented at
this point too, that the Patriots started losing the more
the Crafts got involved in player decisions or in running
the team and not just the business. Yeah, And that's
pretty well documented at this point that the more you know,
the Crafts were sort of forcing themselves into the locker room.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
The less games the Patriots won.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But I you know, people pointed out, oh do you
want this guy who was grumpy and introverted? How many
other coaches do you assess their personality and quench the
last time somebody said, you know Dabo's personality. How did
Nick Saban do with his personality? It's the same as Belichick's.
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walked away from because he wasn't prepared for this.
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the Day, poll question, stat of the Day, all of
that forthcoming. The big news is North Carolina has hired
Bill Belichick. After winning six Super Bowls in the NFL,
Belichick is onto his next challenge, and that's coaching in college,
which is something he's never done before. And I think
that the surprise is well, he was going to be
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the NFL's all time victory holder, he would surpass Don Shula.
But over the last year and a half, the league's
interest in Belichick hasn't has been as robust as he
probably thought and certainly we thought as well. So he
turned his attention to college, or maybe college turned its
attention to him. But as I said, for the last
couple of days, I think he realized he was not
(01:54):
going to get a job in the NFL. Plenty of
other NFL head coaches have found success going to college,
Jim Harball with Michigan, Pete Carroll usc Nick Saban, who
didn't coach well with the Dolphins, went to Alabama, although
he did well at LSU. So the transition from Belichick
NFL to college football, ACC football, a football program at
(02:20):
a basketball school. And there are a lot of people.
I think there's a surprising amount of people, maybe more
people who have a negative reaction to Bill succeeding than
a positive reaction because we hear the same things. His age,
relatability with an eighteen or nineteen year old, nil transfer portal,
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what's he know about the college game? So these are
all the things that and it's fair to question this
or at least observe this and give a reasonable answer
of yes or no. He's going to be able to
do this. He's the most prepared coach of all time.
The fact that he had a four one hundred page dossier.
(03:03):
He went in there and said, hey, here, I'll give
you everything about your program, what I want, what I
need assessing the ACC. So he's going in prepared. It's
not like he's going to go in and go, hey,
what's this nil? That's name, image and likeness. Oh now
the transfer portal? Where is that on campus? Where do
(03:24):
the kids come in from on the portal? No, No,
it's just kind of a name. It's the transfer portal. Wait,
they're getting paid. He's going to be prepared when he
goes in Hey, plus, what is success for Bill Belichick
in college? Nine wins, ten wins? And you're also buying
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into Bill Belichick. You're buying into Carolina. You're buying into Yes,
they are a basketball school. You got the Jordan brand
there as well. It's still powerful with Bill Bellichie on
the sidelines. He still knows how it's coaching football. Whether
it's high school, college, pro, you're coaching football. Nobody is
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better at adapting quarter to quarter, half to half, game
to game than Bill Belichick in the history of the sport.
I have to believe you're going to take this job.
He'll be all in on this job, and he knows
his son is going to be there with him. He's
probably going to bring in a lot of his coaches
he had new England. You're getting Mike Lombardi, who's been
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around the NFL for decades. He'll be his GM. He's
going to bring in experience people, just like Dion did.
Remember when Dion got to Colorado, I said, Dion will
be successful if he brings in really good coaches because
he'll be the CEO. And what do you have after
one and a half years, two years, Dion has his
(04:51):
team at least knocking on the door to be a
playoff team next year, and they certainly were this year. Now,
do I think that is what Bill's going to do? Well,
He's not to bring in his son doesn't play quarterback.
Is he going to be able to bring in a
player like Travis Hunter, who everybody wanted and was going
to go to Florida State? I think the key will
be does he get his quarterback just like he had
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in New England and they kept Tom there. You can't
keep your quarterback in college. They'll stay, but maybe they'll
stay for four years. Can you get a franchise type quarterback?
Because if you go back and listen to what Bill
Belichick said on the Pat McAfee show on Monday, he's
looking at college football the way he did the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It seems like college football is more like pro football.
I've talked to a lot of college coaches about things
like the salary cap and putting value on players and
negotiating and kind of mixing all that together. So I
think there are some similarities from what I've heard. I
have an experience at first ND.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Okay, what's the down sign? He fails? If you're Carolina
you took a shot. Can you imagine that conversation with
Mac Brown? Hey Mac, we're going to go with somebody younger.
He's a year younger than you. So you bring in
Belichick the relatability. I don't know how much he has
(06:12):
to relate. Oh is he going to go on the
road and recruit? No, he's not. They have something called zoom.
All of a sudden, Mom and Dad, Hey, coach Belichick
is on the zoom wants to talk to you. I
think that's probably pretty powerful. How many other college coaches
(06:34):
Dion Belichick? Who else would you put in there? And
you go, hey, stop everything coaches on the phone with
me or on a zoom. It's still a powerful brand there.
Now is he going to want to put up with
all the smaller things? I don't think he's going to
be dealing with the smaller things. He doesn't deal with nil.
(06:57):
He probably won't deal with transfer portal. Now everything is
going to be run by him. There's no salary camp.
You're playing in the ACC feels like it's up for grabs.
If Carolina is getting money together, they're collective. Okay, if
I just say to Bill Belichick, just coach, we have
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everybody else who take care of other things. Dion doesn't
do everything. Dion is a CEO. That's what Bill will be.
But Bill is obviously a better coach than Dion. He's
not as good as CEO, but he'll be a better coach. Now,
the people you put around you, who do you recruit?
(07:41):
And does this matter to these kids who are eighteen
or nineteen, Because if I'm eighteen or nineteen, I may
not really care about Bill Belichick. My dad or mom
may care. My high school coach may care. I want
to get ready to go to the NFL. That's what
this is about, and I think think Bill going there. Bill,
(08:02):
Bill's got a chip on his shoulder. I truly believe that, Hey,
Tom did this, and Tom went to Tampa and meanwhile
I held on for four more years and we were terrible,
And yeah I did make the playoffs with mac Jones,
but it didn't end well Tom. It feels weird, though,
just like Tom had something to prove. At least he felt, hey,
I can do this without Bill. Bill wants to prove
(08:25):
that he can still be a great coach no matter
where he's going. I thought he was going to stay
in the NFL. If he was going to coach again.
But I didn't think he was going and said this,
I didn't think he was coaching in the NFL again.
I just didn't think he was coaching in college because
I didn't know if he I just want to coach,
and that's what it feels like, and you set your
(08:46):
son up. He obviously wants to kind of put in
place a system that his son will then inherit in
let's say three years, and it'll be successful. And I'm
sure Bill will stay on with the program. But I see,
you know far more positives than I do negative. But
(09:06):
this whole out of touch thing, I don't know if
Bill was ever in touch with the Patriots. You know,
it's not like they were like, Man, I really know him,
and yeah, he's got a great sense of humor, Okay,
relatability an eighteen nineteen year old. I don't know what
they're going to be asking from Bill. I don't know
(09:28):
what Bill is going to be giving them other than hey,
I want to make you a player ready to play
in the NFL. That's what they want to hear. How
much do I get paid? And am I going to play?
And hopefully I get a chance to play in the NFL. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
See, I'm curious what kind of player positionally is most
interested in going to North Carolina now, because if I
was a player like say, like a Jaden Daniels type
or somebody like m I don't know if that's the
way I want to go.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
But if I'm a you.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Know, defensive lineman or not an offensive lineman, even you know,
a linebacker, somebody like, hell, yeah, this is exactly what's
gonna get me to the NFL. So I'm curious how
the team will take shape based on that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, and I you know, Bill's whole thing is next
guy up. Let's say you have somebody who wants eight
million dollars and Bill might say, no, we'll find somebody else.
I don't think he'll have the patience for that that
He always was next man up with the Patriots, and
we'll probably be that way with North Carolina. But who
(10:34):
cared about North Carolina prior to this? You know, the
last time we talked about him is when they lost
to a school named after a founding father. They lost,
They gave up seventy points to Jimmy Madison. What do
you That's when we go, Oh my god, they could
have scored one hundred on North Carolina. Mac Brown's gonna
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go like that's it. Nobody else cares. He put him
on He at least put him on the football map. Yes,
it's a basketball school, just like Kentucky football. Now Georgia basketball.
Arkansas used to be a football school. Now it feels
like it's a basketball school. It does happen, it does,
(11:18):
But is it going to change there in North Carolina?
It won't. Well, if they win, people are still gonna,
you know, ask, you know, Hubert Davis, how's the team
gonna be? Now do you introduce Bill Belichick at a
North Carolina basketball game? Right? You got to bring him out,
(11:38):
Just don't have him do the Brian Kelly haven't even
won all my game. If he comes up with a
Southern accent, I'm gonna call bs on Belichick.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And what he says is and he's gonna pull a Tressel.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And when we play Duke on October twelveth we're winning.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Gets the rivalry, He gets us, He gets us, you
know what matters.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's just when he says, you know, I saw an article,
it's like, hey, he's going to win the press conference. Really,
when does Bill want a press conference? I get it.
Maybe Pat mcavee unlocked the personality chest that he has
the cabinet there, it's like, hey man, he that dude
is a he's a talking hairdoo. There. No Bill will
(12:33):
talk to football people. He doesn't want to talk to us.
He doesn't want to talk to you know, the media.
But I think Bill, we're talking about North Carolina football.
That's a win, Dog, that's a win. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
The most important thing regarding this entire situation is what
color sweatshirt is Belichick gonna wear? Because I'm not sure
if he's going to rock the powder blue.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
He can't go that's two that to blue for him.
I think he's got to go dark blue with maybe
maybe some light blue on the On the sleeves, yes, Pauline.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
No sleeves. You go it's hot down there in September.
You're gonna go sleeveless gun show.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Let's do it. M yes. One.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
I think the beginning of the year, since it's going
to be eighty five ninety degrees their first couple of games.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
M hm.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
He's gonna have a polo Onnavy blue.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
Polo with the North Carolina on the side.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Maybe tank top. You know, all right when we come
back the over under for victories for North Carolina next season,
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Dominic Foxworth and Stuart Mandel from the Athletic. He did
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with Belichick and Carolina Chapel Bill. By the way, we
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We'll settle on a pole question. By the way, Oh,
by the way, West Virginia picked the wrong day to
announce Rich Rodriguez was coming back to code for the
perfect day, possibly the perfect day.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, like h O.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Wait then he used to be there he did. Then
he went to Michigan. It didn't go well. Then he
went to Arizona and then he started taking jobs as
assistant coaches, then went to Jacksonville State, and now he's
back at West Virginia. Congratulations, coach Richard. I think he
was in Hawaii. I mean he had gone quite a
few places.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Yes, marv if your missus Rodriguez, you're just thinking to yourself, well,
we moved all these places we could in the Stadia
in West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Maybe they didn't sell their house. Maybe they just moved back.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, seton probably like you know, there was a step
in Hawaii there for a minute, that was nice, yes, Paul, Yeah,
rich rod was at West Virginia during the heyday one
through seven almost yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
And then yeah, they were both good and cool back then.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Then he went to Michigan.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
You can't pass on that did two years there, Arizona,
then assistant jobs, Ole, miss Hawaii, UL Monroe, Jacksonville State,
and he's done very well there and now West Virginia.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah. But the big news Bill Belichick. Should we just
make the poll question about Belichick? Will this be good
or bad? Or what's the wording You're gonna use Seaton.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Well, you know, there's a lot of wordings that we
could use.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, I know Fritzie sent me Bill Belichick's tenure at
North Carolina will be widely successful or a complete disaster.
There's no middle ground there. Did you have any other wording?
Maybe not as specific Seaton.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
You know what's interesting about that is that you know
how your eyes are, like your brain can play tricks
on you. I've read that it's wildly successful, and it's
actually widely all right, AnyWho Todd has? Do you want
Bill Belichick to be successful? Will Bill Belichick ever coach
an NFL game? We have more likely to happen over
(16:28):
the next four years. Bill Belichick will be out of
college football or in the college football playoff like that.
That's a Paul papstism we also have from Paul PAVs.
Would you rather which record? Would you rather have most wins?
Most rings?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We already have most rings?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Yeah, but he's on he could have most Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I don't think people look at Don Shula as the
greatest coach of all time because he has the most wins.
That it's all about super Bowl rings. You know, chula
place in history is secure. But I think it's about
how many Super Bowl rings you have. Yes, but if there's.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
One fella right now who does care about Don Schule's numbers,
it's got to be Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Right. Are you saying that he couldn't get a job
in the NFL if it was that important, don't you
hold out hope that you can get a job in
the NFL. And I've been saying all along, I just
I think that these teams don't want to turn their
team franchise over to Bill Belichick. They just don't. But
(17:37):
I can't look at this and go how long is
he going to be there? What's the career expectancy of
coaches in the NFL? Now? Three years? Can Bill survive
three years? Can he turn the team around in three years?
I believe so? But I just don't think these general managers, presidents,
(17:57):
owners wanted to turn it over to Bill Belichick. And
that's why he took the North Carolina jobs. The bigger
surprise is was there another college coach or college program
that reached out to him and said, oh my god,
Belichick wants to coach college. By then, he was all
in with Carolina and his dad coached there, an assistant
(18:20):
coach back. I think in the fifties. I don't know
what Bill remembers from that or his father told him
about that experience. College football certainly changed an awful lot
since the fifties, But how did it start? Does Bill
reach out? Does Carolina reach out? Now we're going to
find out kind of the embryonic stages of this over
the next week or so, maybe when he's on McAfee
(18:43):
that he can say, can we get specific here who
reached out to whom? But I got the over under
for wins from DraftKings this morning, North Carolina wins in
twenty twenty five. Paulie, I'm going to start with you.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
The over under will be seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Marvin eight and a half, Todd six and a half. Bloop, bloop, bloop.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
I was gonna say, what those other two number, Ye'll
take it, So I figured it's got to be six
and a half that if.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's not those, it is six and a half, six
and a half wins. That'll be a win for the
critics where they go, yeah, see, I don't expect miracles
right away. Just like with Dion, they won one game,
they won four. Now you know what are they going
to win this year? Twelve games? Eleven games? It'll take
(19:35):
him a little while. And Dion was a great salesman.
But Dion had the advantage of having his son, who
is going to be the number one quarterback taken and
the number one player take in Travis Hunter. You start
with those two guys anywhere. If you said Belichick got
those two guys, you would pencil them in for ten
(19:56):
wins this year. Can he get a couple of those
impact players? Can get those guys who normally would go
to Clemson or Florida State in the acca, That'll be
the key, Yes, Marton.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Where does Bill Belichick make his first public appearance as
a new North Carolina coach?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
When's North Carolina's next basketball game?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Check him?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, that's where I would unveil Bill. Now, do you
bring Bill and his girlfriend? Out?
Speaker 9 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You do not.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
You do not. So he's not going to the Fenway Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I don't think he's going to the Fenway Bull. Who's
playing in the Fenway.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Bull North Carolina and Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh they did make a ball?
Speaker 8 (20:39):
He did? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Okay? Oh wow, man, I missed that one. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
When we play NC State November sixth, Yeah, we're going
to win.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
And if they put Bill Belichick on the big screen
the JumboTron, does he have a big smiling grin or
does he play the Bill Belichick kind of?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
I don't like this attention. I got to focus on
getting this team ready.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
What do you think?
Speaker 8 (21:05):
I don't think he does the big smile thing.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
I think he plays a little like you know, I'm
still a Bill Belichick.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
I don't need this attention. Then it's great that you
put me on the big screen, but I got work
to do.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yes, Seedon, That's what's gonna be weird for me is
we just had a year of seeing like, Wow, Bill
Belichick can smile. Bill Belichick tells stories, Bill Belichick laughs,
Bill Belichick has jokes. This is amad look at this personality.
And now what he's going to go back to? Now
I'm standing behind the podium, so I'm just gonna ben
he is really.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Seton brought up a great point this morning. We were
talking about this and Seton goes, yeah, the breaking news.
Can we get breaking news? There's Seaton brought up a
great point, But there you go. Seton's got to provide
the sound effects too. But Seton was saying that here's well,
you go ahead and tell him your great, great idea
or your great observation. With Bill Belichick, You're gonna have
(21:55):
to be more specific that he likes talking to football people.
Oh yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Part of the reason that we're seeing his personality so
much is because when he's on with Pat McAfee, Pat
McAfee is a football guy. When he's on with the Mannings,
Eli and Payton or football guys, he likes talking football
with football people. And if you're somebody holding a notepad
taking down quotes, he doesn't. Why am I going to
talk to you? Yes, he does talk down to us.
What am I going to talk to you for? Like
(22:23):
you're the dude on that side? Ye, I like talking
to the people on this side.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The great unwashed that's us doesn't have time for us.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean I kind of get it sometimes, I
really really do. Just based on the wave, watching the
way media behaves as a hive.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, I definitely get it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And that's why when we would try to get interviews
with Belichick at the Mothership, you would normally send somebody
who played the game, although he had great respect for
Chris Berman, but you send somebody that Bill will talk
to because he feels like, all right, you're kind of
you're not on my level, but you're in the room,
you're in the neighborhood with me. And I think he
(23:04):
really respected McAfee probably you know the check that he
wrote as well. But still McAfee is a very bright guy.
The Manning cast, with the Manning brothers, he feels like
he can talk to them, not explain things or you know,
have to talk down to somebody. But Bill's going to
go back to being Bill Belichick. I don't think that
(23:26):
all of a sudden, his twenty three year old girlfriend
or being on TV with McAfee or the Mannings all
of a sudden unlocked that personality. It's like, I'm free
last I can be myself. I love musicals, you know
what else I love. I don't think that's going to happen.
I'm a devastating cook. I love to cook. I don't
(23:48):
think that's going to happen with Bill. He's going to
go back to being a curmudgeon. That's going to be
his persona. So when somebody says he's going to win
the press conferences, I don't think so. Don't think so.
All right, So what's the wording on the Belichick poll
question for hour one?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Uh, well, we're going to put up a few of
them there because we got a lot of good options. Okay,
I think we'll just start off with something basic like
it'll be successful or a disaster.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, that's fine, so widely or wildly successful or a
complete disaster. Correct, All right, fair enough. Paulie also brought
this up. He had a good idea before the start
of the show. Yeah, yes, unbelievable this morning. Good ideas.
Does Bill Belichick continue to do the Pat McAfee show
(24:38):
next year Wood McAfee, Wood Belichick, because that's free advertising.
Bill shows up once a week talking football, Paul.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Historically, Bill Belichick is on absolute lockdown during a football season,
complete lockdown with the media, just the bare minimum. But
like you said, this is he'll be in his UNC
office and UNC gear, do a little NFL keep your
toe in it, talk about a little bit, and then
say what's up. You know, Pat's going to play to
the crowd, play the Bill and you put him on
(25:11):
the Manning cast. What six times seven times you get
paid and free advertising. There's no downside to it for
Bill younger crowd.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I don't find him interesting on McAfee if he's at Carolina,
because he famously says he didn't watch college football. Now
all of a sudden, like is the one game he
watched was Army Navy. He never watched college football. Now,
when you're totally immersed in college football, is he going
to be watching the NFL? I can't imagine there'd be
(25:41):
no reason for him to be watching the NFL. And
if you're on McAfee, you want him talking NFL, not
let me tell you about the game coming up with Clemson. Yes, Todd,
he doesn't.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Need the money, but I agree with PAULI, it's easy cash.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
It's great publicity for the school, and coaches in college
especially do all kinds of radio and TV shows, so
it's not any ground breaking thing.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
I'd be surprised if we wouldn't make time to still
do that on some level.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Thank you to Well.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Yes, Paul, I can't wait for If I told you
three years ago there's gonna be a college game day
next year with Nick Saban interviewing Bill Belichick at North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah you would have said, what, Yeah, Yeah, you know.
It's one of those where I go. I think I've
seen everything. I've been doing this for over forty years,
and then all of a sudden, yesterday happens. I never
say never, I never say something doesn't have a chance.
But when this first started, I thought, Wow, this is Bill.
(26:35):
Bill is doing a solid for North Carolina. And then
all of a sudden, I'm thinking, maybe it's a negotiating
ploy with a Jacksonville. You better pony up. Bill's getting
ten million dollars at North Carolina for five years. He
would have gotten a lot more than he would have
gotten twenty million, you know, if he was going to
coach in the NFL. But this isn't about money. From
(26:58):
the standpoint of now, he is open the door and
set the stage for his son, who's a defensive coordinator
at Washington, to be able to come in and be
a head coach in the NFL or college. I don't
think Bill coaches in the NFL again. I think if
he coaches again, it'll be lacrosse assistant.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I just I don't.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I just don't see. I don't think the NFL is
going to reach out to him.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
That's so Yeah, Paul, going back to before Bill took
this job the past three or four days. I thought
hurt a lot of people. NFL type people say, Oh,
he won't go to college, he has unfinished business. He
has to get Schule's record. I think that's so overblown.
That record does nothing for him. The rings do it all.
Everyone says he's the greatest coach in history. This North
Carolina does way more for his legacy if it works
(27:47):
out well than Don Schule's record.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Way more. Stuart Mandel, the athletic who will join us
coming up a little bit later on. He opens up
his column by saying, congratulations, North Carolina, you manage to
hire someone completely unqualified to be your next football coach.
You did that thing so many schools do when they
try to win the press conference instead of win football games.
It rarely works. He'll join us coming up a little
(28:12):
bit later on. The column doesn't get any nicer, just
letting you know. I was surprised because we've known Stuart
Mandel for a long time. He's not a hot take guy.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Completely unqualified.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
As a statement, Yeah, he also said, I realized I
may get excommunicated from the football world for daring to
question the merits of a six time Super Bowl champion coach.
But let's remove the name Bill Belichick and replace it
with coach X. Here is who North Carolina just hired.
And then he goes into all of these things that
(28:44):
he's never dealt with. The transfer portal. Is he going
to be recruiting, He's never recruited all of these things.
I mean, I'm surprised that Stuart would go in and
you know, not give Belichick the credit of attention to detail. No,
he is not recruited, No, nil, transfer portal, all of
(29:07):
those things. Do you think that he'll be up to
speed pretty soon on that? I do. He says buttoned
up as any coach in the history of coaches being
buttoned up, and he has something to prove. He has
to prove that he can coach again, which is amazing.
The greatest football coach of all time probably feels like
(29:31):
I have to prove that I can coach again, and
I'm going to do it at a basketball school. I
think it's pretty amazing. Jake and Buffalo, Hi, Jake, what's
on your mind? DP?
Speaker 11 (29:45):
I just wanted your thoughts given that North Carolina isn't
just a football school, they also have the top tier
basketball team.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
How do you think it's going.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
To work when the NIL fund has to be split
across both those programs. Do you think Belichick and this
pro style program he's talked about are going to be
enticing enough for the younger kids to maybe have them
take less money than other schools who are solely focused
on football might offer.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I don't know. I don't know what the collective is
going to be. Is it going to be Ohio State
money twenty million dollars? Probably not. But he needs to
find his quarterback. You find your quarterback. Now, all of
a sudden, Bill can say I'm going to take care
of the defense. Maybe he brings in Josh McDaniels and says, Josh,
you take care of the offense. Mike Lombardi a longtime
(30:30):
football guy, Hey, Mike, you take care of the nil.
You take care of a transfer portal Like this is
how it's all delegated. You're not going to do everything.
He's not the GM where he was in New England.
They're going to take some things off his plate. I
would just say, Bill, coach, you coach, because we will
(30:51):
have an advantage every single game that we go into.
Why because we have that guy as our head coach
Edwin in North Carolina. Hi Edwin.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
A second time, long time. Five to eleven, not so bad.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Two twenty just calling in about the Bill Belichick. I
agree with you. I think I think it's good for
the state. I think a big football state. I was
also kind of to your point as well. I don't know,
I feel like you know, he has a chip on
his shoulder, and I think with the college he's just
(31:29):
trying to, you know, prove it to everybody else. So
I think the window for him to go back to
the NFL's too close, is closed because of his age.
But you know, like you said, I think bringing in
Josh McDaniels maybe, and a'sn.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
AS defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
I just want to hear more about your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'll hang up with all right, Thank you, Thank you, Edwin.
And I just heard from a great college college source
and he just sent an email. He said that Belichick
was pursued by the chair of the board of trustees.
So you're going all the way up now. Everybody's going
to be in with you. This isn't just the athletic director.
(32:06):
And my source goes on to say, overall North Carolina
is comfortable taking these steps as part of a broader
strategy to build and retro fit itself to be ready
as a get ready for this a prospective SEC or
Big ten member. So this is this is a bigger
(32:27):
picture here. But I think the biggest thing is going
to be the financial commitment. So you have that. My
source goes on to say, in addition to staffing, it
will become clear that the school is increasing its NIL
commitment more than get ready for this five percent. I'd
(32:52):
say they're all in. Now you have the financial backing.
You can staff however you want to. Most of the
guys he's bringing in probably are not working right now. Now,
you say, Bill, you coach. These things are set up
like corporations. They're businesses. This is about money making and
(33:18):
a bigger picture according to my source of can we
be worthy for the SEC or the Big ten down
the road here? So bigger play? All right, just getting started.
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not going to figure out this nil. Well, you know
it's called free agency in the NFL. Isn't that what
NIL is? We want to pay you a lot of
money to come to our program. We want to pay
(35:07):
you a lot of money to come to our school.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
So wait, you're telling me there's this period of time
where players can try to negotiate with other teams that
they might want to play for Bill. I'm never going
to get that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I can't figure that out. Bill was the GM of
the Patriot.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
What did I signed myself up for?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
He had to deal with this. The transfer portal was
free agency in the NFL. I like how we think
that people coaches have actually figured out the NIL. It's
still as unstable as ever. It's not like you go,
that guy's really figured it out the transfer portal. NIL.
(35:49):
He's going to be fine if they have money in place,
his staff in place, and he'll they're going to ask
him to coach, and once again he shows up, he
will have an advantage over every coach in America because
he's Bill Belichick. Now is he going to get the players?
Not the first year? But just like I said with Dion,
(36:11):
if you didn't get him the first year, you weren't
going to get him the second year, and that's what happened.
And great time to hire him mid December. He's got
the transfer portal, like all of this is unfolding right
in front of him. Timing is great, but I really
think you embarrass yourself when you question if Belichick is
(36:32):
going to be able to figure out the transfer portal
or nil. First of all, he doesn't have to deal
with nil. They have people who do that transfer portal.
They have people who do that recruiting. Put him on
a zoom call. You don't think that's impactful? Belichick? In
your house, Mom and Dad, you all of a sudden,
(36:55):
you hear the clanking and it's Super Bowl rings. I
brought that. Oh yeah that was Remember when Tom threw
the touch? Now that's Carolina, Yeah that was. I forget
what ring this one is for now? Am I surprised
he did it? Yes?
Speaker 11 (37:13):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Would I be surprised that he's not successful? Yes? I
would be. Let's see what do we have here? Uh?
Sean and Oregon? Hi, Sean, welcome back.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Hey Dan.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
It sounds like you're pleading with us to believe this
is going to be successful here, and I just wanted
to make a couple of points here. And you know
why we think it's not going to work.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (37:39):
You know, well see he wasn't able to replace Tom
Brady and find that quarterback after Tom left. You know,
Tom Brady left New England went and won the Super Bowl.
The Patriots were left in his shambles and when in
college football. You got to find your quarterback every couple
of years. This what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But there's no draft, there's no rule, Sean.
Speaker 10 (38:01):
No, you know there's a lot of competition out there.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I know, but you're still Bill Belichick. You have
to adhere to a draft order trying to find your guy.
And he's not alone at not finding quarterbacks. There's a
lot of teams that have not found quarterbacks. But now
you don't have any restrictions. You can poach somebody if
you want to. You can have somebody already made, just
like you know Brian Kelly did with Jayden Daniels. Just
(38:27):
bring him in, pay him money, let him go out
there and win for you.
Speaker 10 (38:33):
Well, you know what, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon will all have
more players going to the NFL than North Carolina will.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yes, yes, they've they've been doing this a long time. Sean,
that that I mean, do you really think that's the
downside that he's not going to get a quarterback. He
couldn't get a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (38:52):
Well, maybe maybe Michael Lombardi can help him, and maybe
his cousin Jimmy Jimmerson, Because I think Jimmy Jimmerson is
somehow really to Michael Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
All right, well thank you, Sean mac Brown got Drake May.
I just believe Belichick can get a couple of quarterbacks.
You can't do that in the NFL. In college, you can,
He'll find.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
And look, I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just
telling you why I'm convinced, just because I don't doubt him. Now,
did he lose touch? Was their ego in play with
the PA? Yes, all of those things. Do I think
this was? You know about Belichick and then Tom or
Tom then Belichick. I don't get caught up in it.
You have to have one to have the other. If
(39:42):
you don't have both, like this is Kansas City. You
got Andy and you got Patrick, then you can have success.
You can't have an average coach and you know, a
Hall of Fame quarterback or vice versa.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yes, yes, I feel like it's pretty well documented at
this point too, that the Patriots started losing the more
the Crafts got involved in player decisions or in running
the team and not just the business. Yeah, And that's
pretty well documented at this point that the more you know,
the Crafts were sort of forcing themselves into the locker room.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
The less games the Patriots won.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
But I you know, people pointed out, oh do you
want this guy who was grumpy and introverted? How many
other coaches do you assess their personality and quench the
last time somebody said, you know Dabo's personality. How did
Nick Saban do with his personality? It's the same as Belichick's.
(40:42):
Belichick knows what he's walking into. This is what Saban
walked away from because he wasn't prepared for this.
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