May 29, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan is aware that the NBA Draft will be all about Bronny James despite the fact that he’s nowhere near the best player and just hopes the kid gets a fair shake in the league. And he talks about the unrealistic expectations we have for high profile athletes like Bronny and Caitlin Clark
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buying should be play of the day, out of the day,
poll question, all of that forthcoming. I don't know if
it's breaking news, but it's being treated as such. Lebron
James's son, Bronnie James, will be in the NBA Draft.
(01:25):
Today was the deadline for him if he wanted to
go back to college. And I never heard any rumblings
of maybe going to Arkansas with John Caliperi also Ducane
with a connection with Lebron James there, maybe going back
to USC, maybe going to SMU where Andy Enfield, who
is the USC coach, is now the head coach. He
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is going into the draft right now, rated as the
fifty fourth best prospect. And I want to talk to
Chris Haynes from Bleacher Report also TNT. He's working the
Western Conference finals and I want to ask him about
you know, what's going on with Rich Paul is Lebron's agent,
and it feels like they're trying to place Bronnie James.
(02:09):
They're letting teams know as if they have the power here,
they're in control. This isn't a high school recruit picking
his college. But you get the feeling that Lebron James's
camp and his agent Rich Paul, are saying to teams
he's going to pick where he wants to play or
who's going to draft him.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, it's the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's where you would want him to go, and Lebron
would want him to go there. Everybody stays in Los Angeles,
Lebron then will be able to get his new contract
and then he'll still be a Laker. And you know,
Rich Paul slipped maybe it was on purpose that Lebron
is a free agent now and that I think brought
(02:50):
a little attention there to a situation we thought, no,
it's a mere formality. He's going to opt back in
or get his new contract and stay with the Lakers.
So just something to keep an eye on that Lebron
James's son is going to stay in the draft and
basically telling teams, hey, he's not going to be a
guy you're going to put down in the G League.
(03:10):
He's going to play. We want to make sure he
has developed, we want to make sure there's a financial commitment.
All of these things for a guy who didn't even
average five points a game in college. This is really
unheard of. But then there's one Bronnie James here until
Bronnie's brother comes into the NBA, and then they probably
try to do the same thing as lebron be forty
(03:33):
five years of age trying to dictate this.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes, Paul, it.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Almost has apples and oranges and Eli Manningfield to it
while being a second round pick, not the number one overall,
the father who has a lot of juice and the
agent who had a lot of juice manipulating the system
to try to get their son in a certain place.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, but Eli was the number one overall pick. Yeah, Bronnie,
I don't know if he can play in the NBA.
And everybody chooses their words carefully and they're like, oh,
you know, he's got a great upside.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He understands the game.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's physical, he's a good defender, got a good shot.
I mean, okay, there's a lot of guys who have that,
a lot of guys who have a whole lot more
than that. So I look at this two different ways.
He's Ronnie James, and he could be successful in the
NBA and still be a failure to people if he averages.
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Let's say ten points a game, that'd be a failure.
Let's say he played for ten years, that would be
a failure to people. But also he's getting attention because
his name. If his name was, you know, Ronnie Smith,
no one would care. But it's Ronnie James. He's going
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to have an inordinate amount of pressure on him when
he gets to the NBA, because we're going to go, Okay,
what are you going. Let me see what you got.
Let me see when you're playing against the pros. If
you couldn't play well at a high level, you know
in the past twelve now you're going to go to
the NBA. You know this is there's going to be
a bright spotlight on him. Now by all accounts, he's
(05:08):
handled himself quite well, and even everything he went through
at USC, I was hoping he'd play one more year
in college just to see if he does develop. And
there's late bloomers. We see this all the time with players.
Maybe he is a late bloomer. Maybe he's going to
be one of those eighth ninth player off the bench,
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you know, be able to play some minutes, quality minutes,
Maybe be a guy who plays defense, runs the point,
backup point guard. I don't know if he's a starter,
but I watch USC games, not highlights. I watched games
this year, and usually Marvin and I would you know,
communicate back and forth because I would say, you know,
are you watching? And then there were times when I'd
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watch USC play and I didn't even know he was
on the floor. But then he would have these moments
and maybe he gets a fair shot here, maybe more
than a fair shot because of his last day. I
just I would hope to tamp down some of the
expectations that are going to be there because he's not
going to be able to achieve. Like Michael Jordan's kids.
(06:12):
I mean, they played in college, but they didn't play
at a high level, didn't get to the NBA. But
even talk of you know, if Mike said, hey, I
want to play with you know, one of my sons
in the NBA, somebody probably would have made that happen.
But Lebron has made it his mission that, you know,
before he exit stage left, he's going to play with
his son in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yes, Mark, The.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
One thing me and you got from watching USC games
is that Isaiah Collier is a baller. Yes, we're like oh,
Bronnie James. Okay, anyway about Isaiah Colley. That's all we
talked about when we used to text.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, because that guy was bringing it every time. And
you're like, if if that was Bronnie doing that, then
people would go, oh, first pick. Yeah, I'm gonna he's
gonna because this isn't a great NBA draft, so factor
that in. They're trying to get covered here. The mothership
is like, can we get clicks?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah? How about we just focus on Brownie James. That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, Reed Shepherd from Kentucky. I ain't gonna happen.
A couple of Yukon players that ain't gonna happen. There's
no buzz here. And here's Bronnie is the name. Whether
he goes in the first round or second round, I mean,
he's gonna get drafted. The question is who takes him?
And you know how much power does he have?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Seton, there are a few things in this business more
difficult than pumping the brakes?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Is that really like what we do?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Just look at Anthony Edwards last two weeks. He was
the next Michael Jordan by far, the closest thing we've
ever seen to Michael jorid this is it, and we're
watching it from the very beginning of well, he can't
win in the play, look at it. He's gonna get swept.
And they say, hey, look at he have the game.
He put the team on his back list. It is
a roller coaster ride, and he doesn't get the benefit
of the doubt of like, hey, guys, don't compare him
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to his dad.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, his dad's a totally separate player. He's his own person. Whatever.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's kind of what this business is now, is I know?
But I am and Brian Jeans is caught up in
that for sure.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
I know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I'm old, old school.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that's why when as soon as those comparisons with
Michael Jordan, I said, he doesn't want it, he never
asks for it, and he can't live up to that
right now, nobody can.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
The road of the NBA is littered with the bodies
of my former Michael Jordan's's and this dude doesn't want
it either.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, and he's a really good player. He's not Michael Jordan.
But with that rush to judgment like, oh, we gotta
who's he remind you of? It's like when when Keith
van Horn came into the NBA. They go, man, he's
just like Larry Bird. I go, no, he's not. No, no,
he's white. And that's where the comparisons end. He's huh, man,
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when you have a white guy who can shoot.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Three reminds me of Dirk Navitzk.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
No, no, no, Brad Lohas is not Dirk Navitzky.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Watch it.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know. I just came to mind the big band. Yes, yes,
but get ready for it, because that's what the draft
is going to be about. And uh, I hope he
gets an opportunity to just play.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It's not going to happen. But this is the father
in me.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And this is somebody with forty years of experience of
witnessing all of this in all of these sports where
this guy is the next, and I always say no, no,
nobody's the next. We want to make them the next.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You forge your own path there. That's the beauty of sports.
There's nobody like certain players, and there never will be.
There'll never be another Tiger Woods. Somebody can swing like him,
hit like him, even look like him, they won't be
Tiger Woods. There's not another Nicholas I mean down through history,
there's not another of all these great players. The only
(10:06):
one who's close with Michael Jordan was Kobe because Kobe
was same size and modeled his game, studied. He wanted
to be Mike, and that's as close as we ever got.
But he still wasn't Mike.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address dpat dan
Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. It's like
watching Caitlin Clark last night. I said, maybe she's going
to average twenty to ten, that would be a great season.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Four.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, she had thirty last night. They lost again. They're
not a good team, and she's averaging sixteen and seven
and we're going, uh okay, all right, and.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I liken her too.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And here's the comparison that will be out of left field,
but follow me on this. Barry Sanders' final year at
Oklahoma State nineteen eighty eight eleven games. He rushed for
twenty six hundred yards and he had thirty seven rushing touchdowns.
So that was one year. Barry Sanders gets drafted Detroit Lions.
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Next season, he plays fifteen games, he rushes for fourteen
hundred yards, and he has fourteen rushing touchdowns. Is that
a disappointment, Well, it's just reality. He was unbelievable. He
could have rushed for three thousand yards at Oklahoma State.
He had twenty six hundred yards rushing and thirty seven
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rushing touchdowns in eleven games. Gets to the NFL and like, okay,
well that's the reality. Caitlin Clark is dealing with the
reality of the WNBA. She's not failing, it's just your expectation.
She's not going to average twenty seven a game, not
anytime soon. And when Diana Tarassi warned everybody and everybody's
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like a hater.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, Diana Tarossi was giving you the truth. It is tough. Yeah,
remember how.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Great Reggie Bush was at USC And we're like, ah, Lee,
we've never seen anybody like get to the NFL. We're like, uh,
all right, he's okay. That's what being a professional does.
They get paid, they're not going to class, they don't
have a side job. Their job is to be great
at what they do, and that could be guarding you,
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scoring on you, being physical.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're professional.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Barry Sanders wasn't a letdown his first year, and watching
Caitlin Clark last night while she put up thirty. She's
got to learn how to play a professional game now,
because in college you get away with a lot of things.
But she's learning. And if you watch when she started
to where she is now, she's got to learn to
move without the ball a whole lot better. She's got
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to understand that first piece of contact that she gets.
Try to avoid that if you can, but if you
get it, then try to utilize that contact. But she
can still shoot, she can still pass a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But you know they're.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All learning here. I mean, what was Troy Aikman's rookie year?
What was Peyton Manning? What was John Elway? Some of
the greatest you fail and then you learn. The great
ones learn, They pick up something, they add something, they
add something again the next year. But watching Caitlyn Clark,
she hasn't failed. She's learning. But I think people look
(13:28):
at this like, Okay, this is all the hype. Let's
see what she does in her career. Is she going
to be as good as Diana Tarrossi? She can only
hope to be as good as her or some of
the legends who played. There are some wonderful players. We're
just noticing the WNBA now at least a lot of
people are because of Caitlyn Clark. She's bringing a lot
(13:49):
of power, a lot of attention, a lot of notoriety,
and when you watch, you realize there are some really
good talented players, yes, Marva.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
And I think Diana Trossi was speaking from experience like
she was Kaitlin Clark. Not at that level, but she
was the best player in college basketball and she's the
number one pick in the WNBA draft. She knows what
Kayln Clark was about to go through. So she's telling her, Hey,
the stuff I could do at Ukon, I cannot do
that at this level right away. And people will this guy,
you know, so it was, hey.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Don't like the truth. She wasn't being unfair. I mean,
if you know Diana Trossi, you've met her, you listened
to her. She just tells you the truth like she's
not trying to sugarcoat anything. She was being honest. And
I think when we get to these expectations, and look,
Ronnie James is gonna face this. He's not as talented
as Barry Sanders was in college or Kaitlin Clark, but
(14:43):
the expectation level has to be modified because if not
You're gonna everybody's gonna say the same thing about him,
and it's not fair to him. And maybe you don't care.
I do because I look at this and you want
somebody to at least have an opportunity a fair Maybe
he's getting it more of a more than his fair
(15:03):
share of a fair shake because of who he is.
But I just I'm just bracing you for what it's
going to be like in the coming weeks when we
get ready for the NBA Draft.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What's Lebron going to do? What are the Lakers going
to do?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
What if Phoenix drafts him, would Lebron go the You know,
it's just going to be a jigsaw puzzle and there's
going to be a couple of pieces that are left out.
It's going to be a mess. But that's sort of
what we've embraced now in today's sports world.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, Pauline, going back to Diana Tarassi, Like you said,
she was All American superstar coming out of yukon her
rookie year in the WNBA share with seventeen points and
four assists, very nice numbers one rookie the year. Two
years later she was averaging twenty six. Yeah, drastic improvement.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, but you know you're I'm watching Caitlin Clark. She's
got to get a little bit more of a physical,
bigger she's got a you know, because it's a long run,
and plus she's been playing basketball since what's September. It's
been a run all the way through and she needs
some help. You watch that team. There's a reason why
they had the number one pick. They're not good. They
(16:08):
didn't trade to get the number one pick. They earned it.
They were terrible. Yes, Mark, I.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Wasn't gonna say anything. I was right with you completely, like, yeah,
I saw them play and I was like, whoa, I
see why. And also it seems like she's not shooting
to try to ingratiate herself, you know, amongst her teammates,
Like you know what, I don't want to shoot twenty
five times even though I probably should.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, I said that she would be more of a
passer facilitator her first year. Learn the game, learn your teammates,
earn their trust, and then she's gonna have a couple
of breakout games. But if you're going in and going man,
she's a disappointment, then you don't really follow sports because
it's a journey. It's not I got a referendum on
this player. But after three games, five games, ten games,
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hopefully she's playing a long time. All right, Well take
a break. Would you place a bet on the timber
to come back and do what's never been done in
NBA history? Paul, he's got the odds of the Timberwolves.
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To the Elbow goes to the opposite corner. Cat Got time,
Fire's the three and trains it again. Three for three
from long range for Carl Anthony Towns. The Walls go
up five with five minutes left to go in the.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Fourth quarter Timberwolf's radio network, Karl Anthony Towns finished with
twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I thought Minnesota would win the game and the over
under for Karl Anthony Towns was twenty, and I said
take the over. I just felt like this was obviously
the make or break game for them. To give them
a little bit of hope. Maybe it's false hope. He
had to have a very good game, and I said,
go inside. So his first couple of baskets are inside.
(18:34):
Get some confidence. Maybe they fail you, maybe you get
on a roll. Got on a roll in the second half.
Anthony Edwards was great in the first half, and now
you go back and now you have a chance to
at least make it interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
But I don't know if it's.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
False hope because Luca and Kyrie didn't play great and you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Won by five. But these games have been really close.
Every game.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
The average margin is five points, and Carl Anthony Towns
has played poorly until last night, and Anthony Edwards can't
do it on his own.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But Minnesota can go back. No pressure play that way.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Now you're saying to Dallas, hey, if we get another game,
we know we can win. At your play Now, you
just want to create a mindset here. You want to say,
we're not afraid of you. We've done and we won
in Denver a couple of times. We're not afraid of you.
But Kyrie is going to play better. And Luca even
though he had a triple double, it's weird to say
(19:30):
he had a triple double. He didn't play well, didn't
shoot well. But Dallas now goes that's one of those
where you go, Boston is just resting. They're going to
have nine days, you know, if this thing keeps, you know,
stretched out to you know, six games, seven games, back
and forth and then we got to face Boston. This
(19:51):
is where you wanted to polish them off.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Last night.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You couldn't do it. Give credit to Minnesota. They played
well and Karl Anthony Towns. Now you got to do
it again. What are the odds that Minnesota could do.
It's never been done in the history of the NBA playoffs,
and that is come back from three to zero to
win a series. Paul, He's never been done, never been done.
I think it's one hundred and fifty to zero.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So that Nugget team years ago at the Kenbait, was
that a five game series?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yes, oh, yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But also last year the Heat and the Celtics that
went to seven, but you know, the Heat were able
to win game seven.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So the Celtics false hoped?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yes, does Minnesota have false hope? What are the odds
of Minnesota coming back to win this series?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I got Minnesota plus four to twenty five to win
this series. So a Hundi wins you four.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
To twenty that's it.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
That is it.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I thought it would be a little longer.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wait, this has never been done in the history of
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, it's like a sixteen seed in the tournament. Yeah
for twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Does that mean they have more confidence the betters, the
book bookies than you'd expect because they are the favorites.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They are they are, they have home court advantage, they
were the higher seed.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
Yes, Hunt, I think a lot of people haven't taken
any polls about it, but think that the Timberwolves will
be done tomorrow night. I'm shocked to see that that's
the little amount of money you get for them to
go the rest of the way, and.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Would you bet on them losing tomorrow night.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
I'm not a betting man, but I think it's over
tomorrow night. I think they got their one game gentlemen sweep,
and they're finished tomorrow night, even though they're home.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I just had a weird feeling yesterday talking to Reggie
Miller that Minnesota was going to win. And sometimes when
you're not supposed to win is when you win. And
I'm watching the game and I'm going, okay, tied at halftime,
they survived Anthony Edwards. Then all of a sudden, Karl
Anthony Towns lights up the night and that was the
difference here. You know, I had twenty five and he
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was hitting his three pointers, and you get a little
momentum here and maybe maybe extend this to six games,
seven games, yes Eton.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It is tough though, to for me to like put
a way the idea that Karl Anthony Towns all of
a sudden had to hit, you know, like five threes
and two minutes in order for the Timberwolves to hold
off the Mavericks. Where Kyrie and Lucer are having a
terrible night, like, listen, missing layups that bad of a night.
Wide open shots they're missing that they normally knock down.
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They needed cat to all of the sudden catch fire
to push them over the edge.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's tough to figure that out. Yeah, I know, yes, Paul,
and I wish.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I wish Kyrie Irving would think about us. We spent
about two days talking about he's having a career resurgence,
and then he goes one for six from three.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, us out timings everything. It's like, Anthony Edwards, come on,
we're talking about you and Jordan.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
What are you doing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I still I had somebody say that I'm watching the
game yesterday. I had a friend say, I don't see
the comparison with Michael Jordan. I said, there shouldn't be
a comparison. He goes, well you guys. I go, no,
not you guys. They're members of the media that are
trying to hype this, you know, and it's it's not
fair to hear he didn't ask for it. He said
(23:01):
he didn't want it. But we see some traits there, characteristics.
Mike didn't do anything until he's twenty seven. I think, well,
getting to Eastern Conference finals, so just be fair. Gosh,
we want it to happen immediately. You're either greater you're not.
Then all of a sudden, somebody after three years, they're like, ah, Lee, man,
(23:24):
he wasn't very good like Josh Allen. When I watched
him play when he first got in the league, I go,
oh my god, he got to learn how to play. Now,
all of a sudden, we know that he's one of
the two or three best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But that's you got to give people a little bit
of time. But we don't.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know, coaches you got two years, you know, unless
you're the Lakers and Sons, you get one year and
then you're gone. It's like, whoever's going to coach the Lakers?
How many years do you think they have?
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Two?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Maybe three at the most. I mean Frank Vogel got
one year. Darvin ham took his team to the Western
Conference finals, or at least he was the coach of
the team that and then they fired him next year.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's so immediate, the gratification that we expect, and then
members of the media get mad at the player because
the player doesn't live up to the hype they gave him,
which isn't fair.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
To that player.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, point, but we'd all rather be fired as the
Lakers coach. And like the Wizard coach or the Bobcats coach,
no one's even going to know your name. You can
get there, do two years and leave with the Wizards
and nashally if people don't want to know your name.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And I talked to somebody last night who I think is.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'm not going to say involved with the Lakers, but
certainly aware of the Lakers coaching situation and just the
fact that JJ Reddick is working during the playoffs the postseason,
that that's the biggest reason why they haven't announced who
their head coach is going to be, because they're not
going to get Ty Lou. They had him, but they
were too cheap to pay him. And it feels like
(25:02):
you can't say JJ Reddick is our new head coach
while he's doing the NBA Finals. And I said, is JJ?
And I was told by a source that he is
by far and away the leading candidate because Kenny Atkinson,
who's coached before, is probably getting Cleveland's job. I mean
there's a couple of candidates there. I mean, it's not
(25:24):
this wish list of goal lee. We can take our
pick of pat Riley and Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich.
Those guys aren't coming through the door because, first of all,
the Lakers aren't a good team. What's going to happen
with Lebron in two years? What's going to happen in ad?
Are you going to be forced to play Brownie?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
If you like?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
There's just so much drama and the power struggle you
probably have in house there.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And if you're JJ Reddick, do you really want that job?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You can stay in your job as an analyst for
years if you want to, as long as you don't
criticize the officials like Jef Van Gundy did, and then
you lose your job. Oh yeah, yeah, that that doesn't
go away. That did the NBA get rid of Jeff
Van Gundy Because Jeff Van Gundy was calling a game
(26:14):
the way we wanted it. He was honest. You're criticizing officials.
That's a side subject there, But yeah, always I felt bad.
I felt bad that Jeff and that that conversation still persists.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yes, you know, Jeff Van.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Gundy was one of the few analysts that I'll stay
with a game a little longer because of him. Sometimes
when there's blowouts. He and Mark Jackson or the other
analytes with would kind of get loose and have fun,
you know, and almost make it into a talk show.
It was really good. I mean, he was fantastic. I
don't know if that's part of the reason he lost
his job, but he was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, he was what we wanted.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, I mean that's why we watched Charles Berkley. Charles
gives you the truth, but he keeps his job. He
critical the end NA. He'll tell you flat out gonna
don't want to watch this game. I gotta watch this game.
This game is terrible, all right. A couple of phone
calls in here, John in Cincinnati leads us off this morning,
(27:11):
Good morning John. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (27:14):
Heyo, morning, GP. That is a great segue. I don't
know if Kyler has set you up for me or what,
but their expectations. I went look thirty seven days from
the Women's NCAA Championship game to Kaylin Clark's first professional game. Now,
imagine if any other league to that. Imagine Drice Young
could figure it out with okas and training camp and
(27:35):
everything else. Imagine if Kaylor Williams had to go in
and play for the Bears thirty seven days after he
got drafted, or even the NBA gets summer league and camp.
So the expectation on her to come in and just
like perform at a high level and a new league
with new teammates and moving to a different city and
trying to figure out out it's crazy for her in
any other rookie in the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, but we want that immediate gratification or we have
in an immediate opinion about somebody. I mean, look, I'm
not in the hot take business. And there's a reason
because I was taught differently. I was taught the right way.
How about you gather some things. How about you talk
to somebody. It's quick, you know when you go, oh,
that guy's not any good, or that team's not any good,
(28:18):
she's not any good. Oh she's a disappointment, and those
things come back to bite you. And it's not that
I'm trying to be vanilla as much as I'm trying
to be fair, and that is assess what you see,
what are your expectations, and then are you placing the expectations?
And then you're mad at that player because they didn't
live up to your expectations. You have members of the
(28:40):
media who are creating this, and then they're going to
be angry. It's like Rudy Gobert won the Defensive Player
of the Year, Kendrick Perkins said, I'm so ashamed that
I voted for him for Defensive Player of the Year. Okay,
are you basing this just off of what a couple
of games in the postseason? He's won four Defensive Player
(29:01):
of the Year awards, But we're not being fair. Should
we look at one series or two series to assess
how good somebody is or isn't.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Now do I think Rudy Gobert is a great player? No?
Do I think Defensive Player of the Year is a
team award? I do, But yes, can Rudy Gobert guard
the Joker? No?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And no one else can. So that's where you're like, Okay,
you know, how about can we just slow just a
little bit, just a little bit to be fair to
these athletes? And the answer is no. I know that
I'm probably being naive. I hope for that, and it's
not just based off Caitlin Clark. I mean, she's gonna
(29:48):
she's gonna be really good or she'll be good or
maybe she'll be better than average. I don't know, but
I know what she did, and I have to give
her time to get acclimated to be in a profe
just like we do with all of these quarterbacks. We
want it right now. Bryce Young can't play. I don't know,
(30:09):
I don't know, and nobody wants to hear that answer.
He's on a terrible team. Give him a year, another year,
and then we're gonna have a referendum on him. We're
gonna have it all figured out. And then Carolina moves
on from him, and then they draft another quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yes, Paul, what that caller was saying about the college
basketball season going right into the WNB season, it was
great for the WNBA and the hype train and all
that stuff. It never took a break. But it's like
it's also a negative thing because everyone who's casual about
college basketball and kind of discovered Caitlin Clark four months
ago instead of four years ago, thought what they saw
at Iowa six weeks ago would be the exact same
(30:50):
thing they'd see with the fever. Hey, she had thirty
five and fourteen. That was a casual night at Iowa.
That doesn't happen. Like you said, Barry Sanders had an
unbelievab rookie year. He didn't run for two hudred yards
a game. Michael Vick was unbelievable at Virginia Tech. It
looked a lot different when he got to the NFL. Yeah,
it just it cools down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
People don't want that. That's not any fun, you know,
But that's what shows are based on. Now, it's this
is the reaction, and this is my opinion until it's
not my opinion, and then I changed my opinion and
act as if that wasn't my opinion to begin with.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
You know, one percent of high school athletes goes to
play in college and then one percent of that one
percent goes on to be pro. That's what you're watching. Yeah,
you know, it just we forget that, I think, and
I go back to Diana Tarassi. She just stated an
opinion that was based on her experience, an expert opinion.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yes, she was the number one pick. She went in,
she didn't dominate. She's forty or forty one years of age.
Now she's twenty years into this. You're playing against grownups.
You're paying you know, playing against players who are paid
to stop you, and just that ego of I'm gonna
(32:07):
shut you down. They take it out there, just like
when you're on the playground. I got you, I want you.
I'm gonna shut you down. That's all it is. I
mean they know that they're gonna be guarding Caitlin Clark.
I mean they're like, let's go, let's bring it, let
me see what you got.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I'm gonna let you put up forty on me. Yeah,
hell no.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And then they're gonna, hell know, for the good of
the league, go on, go to the basket. They're gonna
knock you down. They're gonna be physical. They don't they
want you in the league. They're benefiting. It's like when
Tiger came in, everybody benefited, but the number two players,
two pros said to me, let's see, let's see. And
I remember it was like like three years later. Seeing
(32:48):
that meant the Greater Hartford Open and I go, uh hey,
they go, uh you never went public with that. I go, no,
I never went public with it because you said it
wasn't it was private. But they both said they were
wrong with Tiger, and I go, yeah, probably all were
because remember when Tiger said, yeah, I had my Sea game.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
The pros were like, oh, he's got a sea game.
I went, uh, well it was good enough to win.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
I like telling like somebody who's been playing in the
w NBA for fifteen years. You know, you're lucky she's here, Caitlyn,
You're lucky for all the money she's bringing into this
game for you.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, after fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
All right, let me take a break. Got our play
of the day up next. More of your phone calls
back after this.
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Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yes, Tom, And once again that was not the Rangers call.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
That was the pick.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Once again that was the Panthers. Glad you were able
to differentiate between the two. Uh Todd no relation. In
North Carolina, Hi Ton.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Hi Dan six y two, one seventy five. I was listening.
He did a great job yesterday, but the Bill on tribute.
But one thing, I'm fifty.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
One years old and I saw the Bulls in their heyday.
And there was one game he was doing color commentary
for NBC and Jordan grabbed a rebound and Bill was
prone to hyperboles and he said, Michael Jordan is the
greatest GEP owner in the history of JIB. And the
(35:45):
guy that was doing the play by play was just
like what And that's one of the memories I have.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Of Bill Walton. I'll probably never forget it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Alrighty, Mike's not the greatest rebounder of all time. Bill
was victim of hyperbole occasionally. I don't remember that. Of
all the things that Bill said in his lifetime, I
don't think I would focus on Michael. That was good invitation.
By the way, Tom the best rebounder of all time.
(36:16):
Jack in California, Good morning Jack, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Hey boys, Hey, thanks for being influencers. My lady now
sings stat of the Day every morning sixty three two
sixty five. My buddies and I have watched and talked
more women's basketball in the last four months than we
ever have in our lives. We've sat over and shit schaded.
(36:42):
We know the teams, we know some players, and thanks
to Caitlin Clark and you know Angel Reached for that matter.
But my question is all the backlash for you, Dan
is why do women hate women? I don't get it.
I don't understand all the backlash.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I'm not sure what context you talk talking about life sports.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
All the media, all the all the media that and
all the people, they're all they're all angry that these two,
you know, Caitlyn is coming into the league and and
you know and Angel Now, I mean, they have transformed
the attention on basketball. I mean, I mean, I'm a guy,
I've watched more basketball than ever in women's in the
women's sport.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I need examples, though, John, of women hating women, because
is it the media that doesn't like Caitlyn Clark and
Angel Reese?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Yeah, well look at Diana Tarassi.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And that's not hate. I mean, but that's not hate.
I mean that that is perspective. I think it was twisted,
but that was I mean, if you're going to say, okay,
who would be a good person to ask about what
it's going to be like for Kitlyn Clark to come
into the WNBA with all the hype Dinah Trossi the
number one pick and you know, one of the greatest
college players of all time. That's twenty years ago, and
(37:54):
she was saying, you know, get ready, I mean this
is going to be real.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
So I didn't that his hate.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
And how did that work out for Diana?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Well almost spot on it, Yes it is, but there
was backlash that, oh, come on, you're not rooting for
she was It's not like she's saying Caitlyn Clark's bad
for basketball or she's not going to be able to
play in the WNBA. She was saying the transition is
going to be difficult, that's all. I don't think she
(38:24):
was saying, Hey, I'm better than her. I mean, Diana
Tarrossi is a better basketball player than Caitlyn Clark. Look
at her career. But let's be fair to Caitlyn Clark.
Let's see what she's like in a couple of years.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Yes, yes, yeah, Kaitlyn Clark has like another version of
the same coverage that Brownie James is having, where the
expectations are going to be very difficult to match, and
the coverage and the tone of it, you know, Caitlyn
Clark is being is she going to save the WNBA?
Is she going to make the WNBA rele Well, if
(39:00):
I'm somebody like Diana Trassi who spent twenty years making
the league relevant and building the league, I'd be pretty
pissed too if I heard that all the time over
and over again, being asked about, Hey, so she's going
to come in and save the thing that you've spent
your life building. Yeah, I would get annoyed at that too,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
But I don't know if that was her motive to
say it as much as just a reality check for
really everybody, maybe even Caitlin Clark hey, just get ready,
And maybe there was a little bit more behind it.
Maybe there was an ulterior motive of oh, okay, you're
the savior now.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Or even just any WNBA player who's been playing in
the league before this year.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, yeah, I would be like, well, it was a
league before that.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I get that she's a thing coming in here, but
let's not discredit all of the people that have been
playing in it up until this point.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
But this is the same feeling when Tiger Woods joined
the PGA Tour. It is it was like, Okay, you
won you know, us amateurs, you won three of those,
and now, ah, you're going to play against the big boys.
And then all of a sudden he came in and
he was like, you know, hello, world, here I am now.
(40:10):
He dominated early. Caitlin still has that look. She can
still shoot, and she is an unbelievable passer. Those are
two really good things to have a head start in
being good in the in basketball. I can shoot as
well as anybody. And I am an unbelievable passer. Start there. Now,
(40:30):
learn the speed of the game. Quarterbacks talk about this
all the time. Hockey players talk about this, this speed
of the game. Gretzky, I remember he would remind me
he had to learn the speed of the game. And
then once you do, the game slows down. You see
things differently, And that's what has to happen. Caitlyn Clark,
(40:52):
she'll understand the speed of the game, and then now
what can I do? What am I going to have
trouble doing? And she doesn't play on a good team? Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I went back and looked at Tiger Woods. When he
made his debut was nineteen ninety six jet basically six
months after college. I think the Greater Milwaukee Open was
his first tournament. He tied for sixtieth. Yeah, and I
could find articles. People calm down, it's going to be
a while. It was like seven weeks later he won
the Las Vegas Invitation.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, nobody wants patience. This is patience Wednesday. Maybe we
do it perspective Wednesday. Every Wednesday. We just had punched relax,
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buying should be play of the day, out of the day,
poll question, all of that forthcoming. I don't know if
it's breaking news, but it's being treated as such. Lebron
James's son, Bronnie James, will be in the NBA Draft.
(01:25):
Today was the deadline for him if he wanted to
go back to college. And I never heard any rumblings
of maybe going to Arkansas with John Caliperi also Ducane
with a connection with Lebron James there, maybe going back
to USC, maybe going to SMU where Andy Enfield, who
is the USC coach, is now the head coach. He
(01:46):
is going into the draft right now, rated as the
fifty fourth best prospect. And I want to talk to
Chris Haynes from Bleacher Report also TNT. He's working the
Western Conference finals and I want to ask him about
you know, what's going on with Rich Paul is Lebron's agent,
and it feels like they're trying to place Bronnie James.
(02:09):
They're letting teams know as if they have the power here,
they're in control. This isn't a high school recruit picking
his college. But you get the feeling that Lebron James's
camp and his agent Rich Paul, are saying to teams
he's going to pick where he wants to play or
who's going to draft him.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, it's the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's where you would want him to go, and Lebron
would want him to go there. Everybody stays in Los Angeles,
Lebron then will be able to get his new contract
and then he'll still be a Laker. And you know,
Rich Paul slipped maybe it was on purpose that Lebron
is a free agent now and that I think brought
(02:50):
a little attention there to a situation we thought, no,
it's a mere formality. He's going to opt back in
or get his new contract and stay with the Lakers.
So just something to keep an eye on that Lebron
James's son is going to stay in the draft and
basically telling teams, hey, he's not going to be a
guy you're going to put down in the G League.
(03:10):
He's going to play. We want to make sure he
has developed, we want to make sure there's a financial commitment.
All of these things for a guy who didn't even
average five points a game in college. This is really
unheard of. But then there's one Bronnie James here until
Bronnie's brother comes into the NBA, and then they probably
try to do the same thing as lebron be forty
(03:33):
five years of age trying to dictate this.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yes, Paul, it.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Almost has apples and oranges and Eli Manningfield to it
while being a second round pick, not the number one overall,
the father who has a lot of juice and the
agent who had a lot of juice manipulating the system
to try to get their son in a certain place.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, but Eli was the number one overall pick. Yeah, Bronnie,
I don't know if he can play in the NBA.
And everybody chooses their words carefully and they're like, oh,
you know, he's got a great upside.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He understands the game.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's physical, he's a good defender, got a good shot.
I mean, okay, there's a lot of guys who have that,
a lot of guys who have a whole lot more
than that. So I look at this two different ways.
He's Ronnie James, and he could be successful in the
NBA and still be a failure to people if he averages.
(04:26):
Let's say ten points a game, that'd be a failure.
Let's say he played for ten years, that would be
a failure to people. But also he's getting attention because
his name. If his name was, you know, Ronnie Smith,
no one would care. But it's Ronnie James. He's going
(04:47):
to have an inordinate amount of pressure on him when
he gets to the NBA, because we're going to go, Okay,
what are you going. Let me see what you got.
Let me see when you're playing against the pros. If
you couldn't play well at a high level, you know
in the past twelve now you're going to go to
the NBA. You know this is there's going to be
a bright spotlight on him. Now by all accounts, he's
(05:08):
handled himself quite well, and even everything he went through
at USC, I was hoping he'd play one more year
in college just to see if he does develop. And
there's late bloomers. We see this all the time with players.
Maybe he is a late bloomer. Maybe he's going to
be one of those eighth ninth player off the bench,
(05:28):
you know, be able to play some minutes, quality minutes,
Maybe be a guy who plays defense, runs the point,
backup point guard. I don't know if he's a starter,
but I watch USC games, not highlights. I watched games
this year, and usually Marvin and I would you know,
communicate back and forth because I would say, you know,
are you watching? And then there were times when I'd
(05:50):
watch USC play and I didn't even know he was
on the floor. But then he would have these moments
and maybe he gets a fair shot here, maybe more
than a fair shot because of his last day. I
just I would hope to tamp down some of the
expectations that are going to be there because he's not
going to be able to achieve. Like Michael Jordan's kids.
(06:12):
I mean, they played in college, but they didn't play
at a high level, didn't get to the NBA. But
even talk of you know, if Mike said, hey, I
want to play with you know, one of my sons
in the NBA, somebody probably would have made that happen.
But Lebron has made it his mission that, you know,
before he exit stage left, he's going to play with
his son in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yes, Mark, The.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
One thing me and you got from watching USC games
is that Isaiah Collier is a baller. Yes, we're like oh,
Bronnie James. Okay, anyway about Isaiah Colley. That's all we
talked about when we used to text.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, because that guy was bringing it every time. And
you're like, if if that was Bronnie doing that, then
people would go, oh, first pick. Yeah, I'm gonna he's
gonna because this isn't a great NBA draft, so factor
that in. They're trying to get covered here. The mothership
is like, can we get clicks?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah? How about we just focus on Brownie James. That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I mean, Reed Shepherd from Kentucky. I ain't gonna happen.
A couple of Yukon players that ain't gonna happen. There's
no buzz here. And here's Bronnie is the name. Whether
he goes in the first round or second round, I mean,
he's gonna get drafted. The question is who takes him?
And you know how much power does he have?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Seton, there are a few things in this business more
difficult than pumping the brakes?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Is that really like what we do?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Just look at Anthony Edwards last two weeks. He was
the next Michael Jordan by far, the closest thing we've
ever seen to Michael jorid this is it, and we're
watching it from the very beginning of well, he can't
win in the play, look at it. He's gonna get swept.
And they say, hey, look at he have the game.
He put the team on his back list. It is
a roller coaster ride, and he doesn't get the benefit
of the doubt of like, hey, guys, don't compare him
(08:01):
to his dad.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, his dad's a totally separate player. He's his own person. Whatever.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's kind of what this business is now, is I know?
But I am and Brian Jeans is caught up in
that for sure.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
I know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I'm old, old school.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that's why when as soon as those comparisons with
Michael Jordan, I said, he doesn't want it, he never
asks for it, and he can't live up to that
right now, nobody can.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
The road of the NBA is littered with the bodies
of my former Michael Jordan's's and this dude doesn't want
it either.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, and he's a really good player. He's not Michael Jordan.
But with that rush to judgment like, oh, we gotta
who's he remind you of? It's like when when Keith
van Horn came into the NBA. They go, man, he's
just like Larry Bird. I go, no, he's not. No, no,
he's white. And that's where the comparisons end. He's huh, man,
(08:56):
when you have a white guy who can shoot.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Three reminds me of Dirk Navitzk.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
No, no, no, Brad Lohas is not Dirk Navitzky.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Watch it.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I don't know. I just came to mind the big band. Yes, yes,
but get ready for it, because that's what the draft
is going to be about. And uh, I hope he
gets an opportunity to just play.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It's not going to happen. But this is the father
in me.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And this is somebody with forty years of experience of
witnessing all of this in all of these sports where
this guy is the next, and I always say no, no,
nobody's the next. We want to make them the next.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
They're not.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You forge your own path there. That's the beauty of sports.
There's nobody like certain players, and there never will be.
There'll never be another Tiger Woods. Somebody can swing like him,
hit like him, even look like him, they won't be
Tiger Woods. There's not another Nicholas I mean down through history,
there's not another of all these great players. The only
(10:06):
one who's close with Michael Jordan was Kobe because Kobe
was same size and modeled his game, studied. He wanted
to be Mike, and that's as close as we ever got.
But he still wasn't Mike.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Eight seven seven three DP show email address dpat dan
Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. It's like
watching Caitlin Clark last night. I said, maybe she's going
to average twenty to ten, that would be a great season.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Four.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, she had thirty last night. They lost again. They're
not a good team, and she's averaging sixteen and seven
and we're going, uh okay, all right, and.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I liken her too.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And here's the comparison that will be out of left field,
but follow me on this. Barry Sanders' final year at
Oklahoma State nineteen eighty eight eleven games. He rushed for
twenty six hundred yards and he had thirty seven rushing touchdowns.
So that was one year. Barry Sanders gets drafted Detroit Lions.
(11:06):
Next season, he plays fifteen games, he rushes for fourteen
hundred yards, and he has fourteen rushing touchdowns. Is that
a disappointment, Well, it's just reality. He was unbelievable. He
could have rushed for three thousand yards at Oklahoma State.
He had twenty six hundred yards rushing and thirty seven
(11:29):
rushing touchdowns in eleven games. Gets to the NFL and like, okay,
well that's the reality. Caitlin Clark is dealing with the
reality of the WNBA. She's not failing, it's just your expectation.
She's not going to average twenty seven a game, not
anytime soon. And when Diana Tarassi warned everybody and everybody's
(11:53):
like a hater.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, Diana Tarossi was giving you the truth. It is tough. Yeah,
remember how.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Great Reggie Bush was at USC And we're like, ah, Lee,
we've never seen anybody like get to the NFL. We're like, uh,
all right, he's okay. That's what being a professional does.
They get paid, they're not going to class, they don't
have a side job. Their job is to be great
at what they do, and that could be guarding you,
(12:25):
scoring on you, being physical.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
They're professional.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Barry Sanders wasn't a letdown his first year, and watching
Caitlin Clark last night while she put up thirty. She's
got to learn how to play a professional game now,
because in college you get away with a lot of things.
But she's learning. And if you watch when she started
to where she is now, she's got to learn to
move without the ball a whole lot better. She's got
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to understand that first piece of contact that she gets.
Try to avoid that if you can, but if you
get it, then try to utilize that contact. But she
can still shoot, she can still pass a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
But you know they're.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All learning here. I mean, what was Troy Aikman's rookie year?
What was Peyton Manning? What was John Elway? Some of
the greatest you fail and then you learn. The great
ones learn, They pick up something, they add something, they
add something again the next year. But watching Caitlyn Clark,
she hasn't failed. She's learning. But I think people look
(13:28):
at this like, Okay, this is all the hype. Let's
see what she does in her career. Is she going
to be as good as Diana Tarrossi? She can only
hope to be as good as her or some of
the legends who played. There are some wonderful players. We're
just noticing the WNBA now at least a lot of
people are because of Caitlyn Clark. She's bringing a lot
(13:49):
of power, a lot of attention, a lot of notoriety,
and when you watch, you realize there are some really
good talented players, yes, Marva.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
And I think Diana Trossi was speaking from experience like
she was Kaitlin Clark. Not at that level, but she
was the best player in college basketball and she's the
number one pick in the WNBA draft. She knows what
Kayln Clark was about to go through. So she's telling her, Hey,
the stuff I could do at Ukon, I cannot do
that at this level right away. And people will this guy,
you know, so it was, hey.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Don't like the truth. She wasn't being unfair. I mean,
if you know Diana Trossi, you've met her, you listened
to her. She just tells you the truth like she's
not trying to sugarcoat anything. She was being honest. And
I think when we get to these expectations, and look,
Ronnie James is gonna face this. He's not as talented
as Barry Sanders was in college or Kaitlin Clark, but
(14:43):
the expectation level has to be modified because if not
You're gonna everybody's gonna say the same thing about him,
and it's not fair to him. And maybe you don't care.
I do because I look at this and you want
somebody to at least have an opportunity a fair Maybe
he's getting it more of a more than his fair
(15:03):
share of a fair shake because of who he is.
But I just I'm just bracing you for what it's
going to be like in the coming weeks when we
get ready for the NBA Draft.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
What's Lebron going to do? What are the Lakers going
to do?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
What if Phoenix drafts him, would Lebron go the You know,
it's just going to be a jigsaw puzzle and there's
going to be a couple of pieces that are left out.
It's going to be a mess. But that's sort of
what we've embraced now in today's sports world.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, Pauline, going back to Diana Tarassi, Like you said,
she was All American superstar coming out of yukon her
rookie year in the WNBA share with seventeen points and
four assists, very nice numbers one rookie the year. Two
years later she was averaging twenty six. Yeah, drastic improvement.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, but you know you're I'm watching Caitlin Clark. She's
got to get a little bit more of a physical,
bigger she's got a you know, because it's a long run,
and plus she's been playing basketball since what's September. It's
been a run all the way through and she needs
some help. You watch that team. There's a reason why
they had the number one pick. They're not good. They
(16:08):
didn't trade to get the number one pick. They earned it.
They were terrible. Yes, Mark, I.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Wasn't gonna say anything. I was right with you completely, like, yeah,
I saw them play and I was like, whoa, I
see why. And also it seems like she's not shooting
to try to ingratiate herself, you know, amongst her teammates,
Like you know what, I don't want to shoot twenty
five times even though I probably should.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, I said that she would be more of a
passer facilitator her first year. Learn the game, learn your teammates,
earn their trust, and then she's gonna have a couple
of breakout games. But if you're going in and going man,
she's a disappointment, then you don't really follow sports because
it's a journey. It's not I got a referendum on
this player. But after three games, five games, ten games,
(16:55):
hopefully she's playing a long time. All right, Well take
a break. Would you place a bet on the timber
to come back and do what's never been done in
NBA history? Paul, he's got the odds of the Timberwolves.
Can they win three more games? We'll have that for
you after this Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 1 (17:54):
To the Elbow goes to the opposite corner. Cat Got time,
Fire's the three and trains it again. Three for three
from long range for Carl Anthony Towns. The Walls go
up five with five minutes left to go in the.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Fourth quarter Timberwolf's radio network, Karl Anthony Towns finished with
twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I thought Minnesota would win the game and the over
under for Karl Anthony Towns was twenty, and I said
take the over. I just felt like this was obviously
the make or break game for them. To give them
a little bit of hope. Maybe it's false hope. He
had to have a very good game, and I said,
go inside. So his first couple of baskets are inside.
(18:34):
Get some confidence. Maybe they fail you, maybe you get
on a roll. Got on a roll in the second half.
Anthony Edwards was great in the first half, and now
you go back and now you have a chance to
at least make it interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
But I don't know if it's.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
False hope because Luca and Kyrie didn't play great and you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Won by five. But these games have been really close.
Every game.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
The average margin is five points, and Carl Anthony Towns
has played poorly until last night, and Anthony Edwards can't
do it on his own.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But Minnesota can go back. No pressure play that way.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Now you're saying to Dallas, hey, if we get another game,
we know we can win. At your play Now, you
just want to create a mindset here. You want to say,
we're not afraid of you. We've done and we won
in Denver a couple of times. We're not afraid of you.
But Kyrie is going to play better. And Luca even
though he had a triple double, it's weird to say
(19:30):
he had a triple double. He didn't play well, didn't
shoot well. But Dallas now goes that's one of those
where you go, Boston is just resting. They're going to
have nine days, you know, if this thing keeps, you know,
stretched out to you know, six games, seven games, back
and forth and then we got to face Boston. This
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is where you wanted to polish them off.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Last night.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You couldn't do it. Give credit to Minnesota. They played
well and Karl Anthony Towns. Now you got to do
it again. What are the odds that Minnesota could do.
It's never been done in the history of the NBA playoffs,
and that is come back from three to zero to
win a series. Paul, He's never been done, never been done.
I think it's one hundred and fifty to zero.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So that Nugget team years ago at the Kenbait, was
that a five game series?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yes, oh, yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But also last year the Heat and the Celtics that
went to seven, but you know, the Heat were able
to win game seven.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So the Celtics false hoped?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yes, does Minnesota have false hope? What are the odds
of Minnesota coming back to win this series?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I got Minnesota plus four to twenty five to win
this series. So a Hundi wins you four.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
To twenty that's it.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
That is it.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I thought it would be a little longer.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Wait, this has never been done in the history of
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, it's like a sixteen seed in the tournament. Yeah
for twenty five.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Does that mean they have more confidence the betters, the
book bookies than you'd expect because they are the favorites.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They are they are, they have home court advantage, they
were the higher seed.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
Yes, Hunt, I think a lot of people haven't taken
any polls about it, but think that the Timberwolves will
be done tomorrow night. I'm shocked to see that that's
the little amount of money you get for them to
go the rest of the way, and.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Would you bet on them losing tomorrow night.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
I'm not a betting man, but I think it's over
tomorrow night. I think they got their one game gentlemen sweep,
and they're finished tomorrow night, even though they're home.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I just had a weird feeling yesterday talking to Reggie
Miller that Minnesota was going to win. And sometimes when
you're not supposed to win is when you win. And
I'm watching the game and I'm going, okay, tied at halftime,
they survived Anthony Edwards. Then all of a sudden, Karl
Anthony Towns lights up the night and that was the
difference here. You know, I had twenty five and he
(21:46):
was hitting his three pointers, and you get a little
momentum here and maybe maybe extend this to six games,
seven games, yes Eton.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
It is tough though, to for me to like put
a way the idea that Karl Anthony Towns all of
a sudden had to hit, you know, like five threes
and two minutes in order for the Timberwolves to hold
off the Mavericks. Where Kyrie and Lucer are having a
terrible night, like, listen, missing layups that bad of a night.
Wide open shots they're missing that they normally knock down.
(22:18):
They needed cat to all of the sudden catch fire
to push them over the edge.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's tough to figure that out. Yeah, I know, yes, Paul,
and I wish.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I wish Kyrie Irving would think about us. We spent
about two days talking about he's having a career resurgence,
and then he goes one for six from three.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, us out timings everything. It's like, Anthony Edwards, come on,
we're talking about you and Jordan.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
What are you doing.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I still I had somebody say that I'm watching the
game yesterday. I had a friend say, I don't see
the comparison with Michael Jordan. I said, there shouldn't be
a comparison. He goes, well you guys. I go, no,
not you guys. They're members of the media that are
trying to hype this, you know, and it's it's not
fair to hear he didn't ask for it. He said
(23:01):
he didn't want it. But we see some traits there, characteristics.
Mike didn't do anything until he's twenty seven. I think, well,
getting to Eastern Conference finals, so just be fair. Gosh,
we want it to happen immediately. You're either greater you're not.
Then all of a sudden, somebody after three years, they're like, ah, Lee, man,
(23:24):
he wasn't very good like Josh Allen. When I watched
him play when he first got in the league, I go,
oh my god, he got to learn how to play. Now,
all of a sudden, we know that he's one of
the two or three best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But that's you got to give people a little bit
of time. But we don't.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know, coaches you got two years, you know, unless
you're the Lakers and Sons, you get one year and
then you're gone. It's like, whoever's going to coach the Lakers?
How many years do you think they have?
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Two?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Maybe three at the most. I mean Frank Vogel got
one year. Darvin ham took his team to the Western
Conference finals, or at least he was the coach of
the team that and then they fired him next year.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's so immediate, the gratification that we expect, and then
members of the media get mad at the player because
the player doesn't live up to the hype they gave him,
which isn't fair.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
To that player.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, point, but we'd all rather be fired as the
Lakers coach. And like the Wizard coach or the Bobcats coach,
no one's even going to know your name. You can
get there, do two years and leave with the Wizards
and nashally if people don't want to know your name.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
And I talked to somebody last night who I think is.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'm not going to say involved with the Lakers, but
certainly aware of the Lakers coaching situation and just the
fact that JJ Reddick is working during the playoffs the postseason,
that that's the biggest reason why they haven't announced who
their head coach is going to be, because they're not
going to get Ty Lou. They had him, but they
were too cheap to pay him. And it feels like
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you can't say JJ Reddick is our new head coach
while he's doing the NBA Finals. And I said, is JJ?
And I was told by a source that he is
by far and away the leading candidate because Kenny Atkinson,
who's coached before, is probably getting Cleveland's job. I mean
there's a couple of candidates there. I mean, it's not
(25:24):
this wish list of goal lee. We can take our
pick of pat Riley and Phil Jackson and Greg Popovich.
Those guys aren't coming through the door because, first of all,
the Lakers aren't a good team. What's going to happen
with Lebron in two years? What's going to happen in ad?
Are you going to be forced to play Brownie?
Speaker 7 (25:41):
If you like?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
There's just so much drama and the power struggle you
probably have in house there.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And if you're JJ Reddick, do you really want that job?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You can stay in your job as an analyst for
years if you want to, as long as you don't
criticize the officials like Jef Van Gundy did, and then
you lose your job. Oh yeah, yeah, that that doesn't
go away. That did the NBA get rid of Jeff
Van Gundy Because Jeff Van Gundy was calling a game
(26:14):
the way we wanted it. He was honest. You're criticizing officials.
That's a side subject there, But yeah, always I felt bad.
I felt bad that Jeff and that that conversation still persists.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yes, you know, Jeff Van.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Gundy was one of the few analysts that I'll stay
with a game a little longer because of him. Sometimes
when there's blowouts. He and Mark Jackson or the other
analytes with would kind of get loose and have fun,
you know, and almost make it into a talk show.
It was really good. I mean, he was fantastic. I
don't know if that's part of the reason he lost
his job, but he was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, he was what we wanted.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, I mean that's why we watched Charles Berkley. Charles
gives you the truth, but he keeps his job. He
critical the end NA. He'll tell you flat out gonna
don't want to watch this game. I gotta watch this game.
This game is terrible, all right. A couple of phone
calls in here, John in Cincinnati leads us off this morning,
(27:11):
Good morning John. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (27:14):
Heyo, morning, GP. That is a great segue. I don't
know if Kyler has set you up for me or what,
but their expectations. I went look thirty seven days from
the Women's NCAA Championship game to Kaylin Clark's first professional game. Now,
imagine if any other league to that. Imagine Drice Young
could figure it out with okas and training camp and
(27:35):
everything else. Imagine if Kaylor Williams had to go in
and play for the Bears thirty seven days after he
got drafted, or even the NBA gets summer league and camp.
So the expectation on her to come in and just
like perform at a high level and a new league
with new teammates and moving to a different city and
trying to figure out out it's crazy for her in
any other rookie in the WNBA.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, but we want that immediate gratification or we have
in an immediate opinion about somebody. I mean, look, I'm
not in the hot take business. And there's a reason
because I was taught differently. I was taught the right way.
How about you gather some things. How about you talk
to somebody. It's quick, you know when you go, oh,
that guy's not any good, or that team's not any good,
(28:18):
she's not any good. Oh she's a disappointment, and those
things come back to bite you. And it's not that
I'm trying to be vanilla as much as I'm trying
to be fair, and that is assess what you see,
what are your expectations, and then are you placing the expectations?
And then you're mad at that player because they didn't
live up to your expectations. You have members of the
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media who are creating this, and then they're going to
be angry. It's like Rudy Gobert won the Defensive Player
of the Year, Kendrick Perkins said, I'm so ashamed that
I voted for him for Defensive Player of the Year. Okay,
are you basing this just off of what a couple
of games in the postseason? He's won four Defensive Player
(29:01):
of the Year awards, But we're not being fair. Should
we look at one series or two series to assess
how good somebody is or isn't.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Now do I think Rudy Gobert is a great player? No?
Do I think Defensive Player of the Year is a
team award? I do, But yes, can Rudy Gobert guard
the Joker? No?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And no one else can. So that's where you're like, Okay,
you know, how about can we just slow just a
little bit, just a little bit to be fair to
these athletes? And the answer is no. I know that
I'm probably being naive. I hope for that, and it's
not just based off Caitlin Clark. I mean, she's gonna
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she's gonna be really good or she'll be good or
maybe she'll be better than average. I don't know, but
I know what she did, and I have to give
her time to get acclimated to be in a profe
just like we do with all of these quarterbacks. We
want it right now. Bryce Young can't play. I don't know,
(30:09):
I don't know, and nobody wants to hear that answer.
He's on a terrible team. Give him a year, another year,
and then we're gonna have a referendum on him. We're
gonna have it all figured out. And then Carolina moves
on from him, and then they draft another quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yes, Paul, what that caller was saying about the college
basketball season going right into the WNB season, it was
great for the WNBA and the hype train and all
that stuff. It never took a break. But it's like
it's also a negative thing because everyone who's casual about
college basketball and kind of discovered Caitlin Clark four months
ago instead of four years ago, thought what they saw
at Iowa six weeks ago would be the exact same
(30:50):
thing they'd see with the fever. Hey, she had thirty
five and fourteen. That was a casual night at Iowa.
That doesn't happen. Like you said, Barry Sanders had an
unbelievab rookie year. He didn't run for two hudred yards
a game. Michael Vick was unbelievable at Virginia Tech. It
looked a lot different when he got to the NFL. Yeah,
it just it cools down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
People don't want that. That's not any fun, you know,
But that's what shows are based on. Now, it's this
is the reaction, and this is my opinion until it's
not my opinion, and then I changed my opinion and
act as if that wasn't my opinion to begin with.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
You know, one percent of high school athletes goes to
play in college and then one percent of that one
percent goes on to be pro. That's what you're watching. Yeah,
you know, it just we forget that, I think, and
I go back to Diana Tarassi. She just stated an
opinion that was based on her experience, an expert opinion.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yes, she was the number one pick. She went in,
she didn't dominate. She's forty or forty one years of age.
Now she's twenty years into this. You're playing against grownups.
You're paying you know, playing against players who are paid
to stop you, and just that ego of I'm gonna
(32:07):
shut you down. They take it out there, just like
when you're on the playground. I got you, I want you.
I'm gonna shut you down. That's all it is. I
mean they know that they're gonna be guarding Caitlin Clark.
I mean they're like, let's go, let's bring it, let
me see what you got.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I'm gonna let you put up forty on me. Yeah,
hell no.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
And then they're gonna, hell know, for the good of
the league, go on, go to the basket. They're gonna
knock you down. They're gonna be physical. They don't they
want you in the league. They're benefiting. It's like when
Tiger came in, everybody benefited, but the number two players,
two pros said to me, let's see, let's see. And
I remember it was like like three years later. Seeing
(32:48):
that meant the Greater Hartford Open and I go, uh hey,
they go, uh you never went public with that. I go, no,
I never went public with it because you said it
wasn't it was private. But they both said they were
wrong with Tiger, and I go, yeah, probably all were
because remember when Tiger said, yeah, I had my Sea game.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
The pros were like, oh, he's got a sea game.
I went, uh, well it was good enough to win.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
I like telling like somebody who's been playing in the
w NBA for fifteen years. You know, you're lucky she's here, Caitlyn,
You're lucky for all the money she's bringing into this
game for you.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, after fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
All right, let me take a break. Got our play
of the day up next. More of your phone calls
back after this.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
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Speaker 4 (33:45):
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Of the day.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Check this out.
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Speaker 12 (34:11):
Save right or from right out in front of.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
The power.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
That's courtesy of five sixty Sports w q A m
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season and the playoffs, they tied that series two games apiece.
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person in hockey and vice versa?
Speaker 3 (34:38):
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Speaker 2 (34:39):
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Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yes, Tom, And once again that was not the Rangers call.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
That was the pick.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Once again that was the Panthers. Glad you were able
to differentiate between the two. Uh Todd no relation. In
North Carolina, Hi Ton.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Hi Dan six y two, one seventy five. I was listening.
He did a great job yesterday, but the Bill on tribute.
But one thing, I'm fifty.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
One years old and I saw the Bulls in their heyday.
And there was one game he was doing color commentary
for NBC and Jordan grabbed a rebound and Bill was
prone to hyperboles and he said, Michael Jordan is the
greatest GEP owner in the history of JIB. And the
(35:45):
guy that was doing the play by play was just
like what And that's one of the memories I have.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Of Bill Walton. I'll probably never forget it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Alrighty, Mike's not the greatest rebounder of all time. Bill
was victim of hyperbole occasionally. I don't remember that. Of
all the things that Bill said in his lifetime, I
don't think I would focus on Michael. That was good invitation.
By the way, Tom the best rebounder of all time.
(36:16):
Jack in California, Good morning Jack, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Hey boys, Hey, thanks for being influencers. My lady now
sings stat of the Day every morning sixty three two
sixty five. My buddies and I have watched and talked
more women's basketball in the last four months than we
ever have in our lives. We've sat over and shit schaded.
(36:42):
We know the teams, we know some players, and thanks
to Caitlin Clark and you know Angel Reached for that matter.
But my question is all the backlash for you, Dan
is why do women hate women? I don't get it.
I don't understand all the backlash.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I'm not sure what context you talk talking about life sports.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
All the media, all the all the media that and
all the people, they're all they're all angry that these two,
you know, Caitlyn is coming into the league and and
you know and Angel Now, I mean, they have transformed
the attention on basketball. I mean, I mean, I'm a guy,
I've watched more basketball than ever in women's in the
women's sport.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I need examples, though, John, of women hating women, because
is it the media that doesn't like Caitlyn Clark and
Angel Reese?
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Yeah, well look at Diana Tarassi.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And that's not hate. I mean, but that's not hate.
I mean that that is perspective. I think it was twisted,
but that was I mean, if you're going to say, okay,
who would be a good person to ask about what
it's going to be like for Kitlyn Clark to come
into the WNBA with all the hype Dinah Trossi the
number one pick and you know, one of the greatest
college players of all time. That's twenty years ago, and
(37:54):
she was saying, you know, get ready, I mean this
is going to be real.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
So I didn't that his hate.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
And how did that work out for Diana?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Well almost spot on it, Yes it is, but there
was backlash that, oh, come on, you're not rooting for
she was It's not like she's saying Caitlyn Clark's bad
for basketball or she's not going to be able to
play in the WNBA. She was saying the transition is
going to be difficult, that's all. I don't think she
(38:24):
was saying, Hey, I'm better than her. I mean, Diana
Tarrossi is a better basketball player than Caitlyn Clark. Look
at her career. But let's be fair to Caitlyn Clark.
Let's see what she's like in a couple of years.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Yes, yes, yeah, Kaitlyn Clark has like another version of
the same coverage that Brownie James is having, where the
expectations are going to be very difficult to match, and
the coverage and the tone of it, you know, Caitlyn
Clark is being is she going to save the WNBA?
Is she going to make the WNBA rele Well, if
(39:00):
I'm somebody like Diana Trassi who spent twenty years making
the league relevant and building the league, I'd be pretty
pissed too if I heard that all the time over
and over again, being asked about, Hey, so she's going
to come in and save the thing that you've spent
your life building. Yeah, I would get annoyed at that too,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
But I don't know if that was her motive to
say it as much as just a reality check for
really everybody, maybe even Caitlin Clark hey, just get ready,
And maybe there was a little bit more behind it.
Maybe there was an ulterior motive of oh, okay, you're
the savior now.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Or even just any WNBA player who's been playing in
the league before this year.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, yeah, I would be like, well, it was a
league before that.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I get that she's a thing coming in here, but
let's not discredit all of the people that have been
playing in it up until this point.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
But this is the same feeling when Tiger Woods joined
the PGA Tour. It is it was like, Okay, you
won you know, us amateurs, you won three of those,
and now, ah, you're going to play against the big boys.
And then all of a sudden he came in and
he was like, you know, hello, world, here I am now.
(40:10):
He dominated early. Caitlin still has that look. She can
still shoot, and she is an unbelievable passer. Those are
two really good things to have a head start in
being good in the in basketball. I can shoot as
well as anybody. And I am an unbelievable passer. Start there. Now,
(40:30):
learn the speed of the game. Quarterbacks talk about this
all the time. Hockey players talk about this, this speed
of the game. Gretzky, I remember he would remind me
he had to learn the speed of the game. And
then once you do, the game slows down. You see
things differently, And that's what has to happen. Caitlyn Clark,
(40:52):
she'll understand the speed of the game, and then now
what can I do? What am I going to have
trouble doing? And she doesn't play on a good team? Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I went back and looked at Tiger Woods. When he
made his debut was nineteen ninety six jet basically six
months after college. I think the Greater Milwaukee Open was
his first tournament. He tied for sixtieth. Yeah, and I
could find articles. People calm down, it's going to be
a while. It was like seven weeks later he won
the Las Vegas Invitation.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, nobody wants patience. This is patience Wednesday. Maybe we
do it perspective Wednesday. Every Wednesday. We just had punched relax,
one hour of the books, two more Togo in this Wednesday,
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