August 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan digs into the Cleveland Browns decision to pick up Tyler Huntley and add to their already overloaded QB room and where Shedeur Sanders fits into their future. And DP is looking forward to seeing top ranked Ohio State and Texas matching up in Week 1 of the college football season. And former NFL QB Chris Simms drops by to weigh in on the quarterback situation in Cleveland.
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in no particular order, talking quarterbacks today, but also backup
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quarterbacks as well, the Cleveland Browns, I believe, have six
quarterbacks in their quarterback room. There's a chance they keep
four to start the season. And the reason why I
bring this up, it's for a variety of reasons, but
I think the most important one is your backup quarterback
situation with the Rams with Matthew Stafford. They got Jimmy Garoppolo.
(01:33):
That's a high end backup. I mean, you got a
backup who started in the Super Bowl. We don't know
the severity of Matthew Stafford. It feels like it's day
to day with the back issues there.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But this is a.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Team that can challenge to win the NFC. They're that
talented and it might come down to Matthew Stafford's health.
And if that's the case, Jimmy Garoppolo, how much does
he play? Stetson Bentett is the backup to the backup.
But look at some of these situations around the NFL,
and you need to have if you're a really good team,
(02:07):
you kind of have to have a really good backup
because if your starter goes down, you don't want the
season to go down as well. But we'll talk about
that coming up. And the Cleveland Browns brought in Tyler Hunting. Now,
if you look at the headlines, it's Brown's bring in
former Pro Bowl Pro bowler Tyler Hunting, and I went, well, okay,
(02:31):
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The reality is he made the Pro Bowl in twenty
twenty two. His stats this year two touchdown passes, three
interceptions and rushing for one hundred and thirty seven yards.
The Pro Bowl used to mean something, and he did
a pretty good job with Lamar Jackson's absence when he
was with Baltimore, and he's a solid backup. But you're
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going to the Cleveland Browns and you already have a
quarterback heavy room. When you have that many quarterbacks, you
don't have a quarterback. Joe Flacco's age, the inexperience of
Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, and then the curiosity of
Kenny Pickett. They're all injured, but not you know, serious injuries,
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but you still have nagging injuries and you're trying to
get everybody enough reps. It feels like it's Joe Flacco's
job to lose from what I'm told, But I thought
at the beginning Kenny Pickett was going to be the
number one guy. Flacco the backup, and then you're going
to have to figure out if you're keeping three or
four quarterbacks with Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. Now you
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bring in Tyler Hunting as well, but I think that's
because you know you've got.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
A preseason game coming up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think this Friday, you got to have somebody play
in the position who's healthy enough. And that might be
the case there, but we'll look at some of the
other backup quarterback situations here and the importance speaking of
what Chris Sims, who was a backup quarterback for a
portion of his NFL career, will join us as well.
The college football rankings came out. It's Texas, Ohio State,
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Penn State, Georgia, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oregon, and Alabama. And
we were wondering, when's the last time you had the
two top teams in the country meeting to open up
the season. This is the first time it's happened in
the history of college football. And you go back to
the ap Poles started in nineteen thirty six, the Coaches
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Poll started in nineteen fifty. We've never had number one
versus two in Week one, and if you're going to
ease into the season, not exactly doing that. If you're
arch Manning. We're going to get a really good idea
about arch Manning on the road against Ohio State to
open up the season. Well, this isn't you know Louisiana, Louisiana,
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Monroe or Mercer or any of those schools. It's you're
playing the Ohio State at Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The defending national champions. Yes, going into Columbus ranked number one.
For really, what is your first game? That's you can
already see the hero or zero storylines for arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Here's another thing that I found interesting. I find this
college football season to be wide open. I think the
voters felt that way too, because you have Texas, Ohio State,
and Penn State, and they all got double digit votes
to be the best team in the country at least
to start out. We'll talk about this second ten. I
think that's what's interesting. These are sort of the usuals,
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the usual suspects. I like Clemson a lot more than
I probably thought I was going to Oregon's in there,
Alabama at ten, Notre Dames in there, Georgia, so Penn State,
Ohio State, Texas, and it should be a fun season.
I don't know when we're adding four more teams to
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the playoffs. It's probably next year. But once again, it's
gray area there. It's just like the NCAA Tournament more madness.
I was told two weeks ago, get ready for a
decision if they're going to expand or be status quo.
Well we finally got around to that yesterday where they
said they're not going to expand March madness, which I
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think is really good. I would like them to take
away some of these bids of the opportunity. I'd like
get reduced a little bit more, but that's not going
to happen. We always add, we never subtract. And if
you're at sixty eight, I do think we'll eventually get
to seventy two. And I'm told you might get to
seventy six as well before the end of this decade.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes, Marvin, sorry, are my eyes deceiving me?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Texas at Ohio State August.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thirtieth, noon, Yeah, yeah, oh wow, big noon kickoffs? Yeah,
I know. Ohio State. I think has got a lot
of noon kickoffs. I don't think they're too play I
think Ryan days to please with the big noon kickoff there,
but all eyes will be on that. You would think
that's a Saturday night type game, right, yeah, seton.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But you might be if you're say Texas and arch Manning,
you might love Just wake up, get to the field,
get the game over with.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You're not sitting around.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
All day waiting to go all right here here, okay,
stay LuSE gotta the just get the game, let's play.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was watching the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, the
John Lway Draft and Dan Marino. I was watching the
thirty for thirty last night. That took place in the morning.
I think it started at eight am and at noon.
Now I'm there. I met the Marriott Marquis and you
had to be upstairs to look down upon the draft.
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And I don't remember if how many players were there.
I don't remember players being there. I remember running into
John Madden, but it was just when you think about showcasing,
you usually wait and you want it out. You want to,
you know, put it on the best time slot. The
NFL Draft, I think started at eight am and ended
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at noon that day. All right, see what's pull question today?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, we probably got a gajillion of them off of
the college football list there. That's a lot that one
exactly one gajillion. Yes, we also have a couple of
options from the t DUB you're interested in those, such as,
if you're a pro athlete, are there any circumstances where
you'd want your parent at training camp? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, well, this is a Shadoor Sanders talking about
why he doesn't want Dion Sanders at training camp.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I don't want him come in to see me right
now because I want to get to where I want
to go in for him to see me now, I
don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You know, get a couple of reptions.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
You know, he's cheering like a good dad, like, nah,
you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta
get to where I'm going, and I know it's a
lot I gotta do to get there. So it's kind
of like I just want everything that I'm doing is
just like focus on this time. I mean, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Know distraction because we know out the media, we know
how everybody would.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Take it and take away from the team just from
him being my own dad sowing up. So you know,
it's a gift that occurs at the same time.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's a great answer, and by all accounts, he has
been what they thought he was going to be. Now
I know we've had the speeding tickets. By all accounts though,
how he handles himself with the veterans when he's in
camp that he has put in the time and he
realizes he's a rookie, he is not looking for expecting
preferential treatment. And once again, this is somebody with the
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Browns who said this, and this was somebody who didn't
think they should have drafted Shador Sanders, because if you
really wanted him, and you want to send the message
you really want him, you would have drafted him earlier.
It felt like a I don't know, let's just take
him after you take Dylan Gabriel. Now that's aside from
the point of him looking at him and saying he's
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done what you've wanted, expected, hoped for and coming to
camp would be a spectacle. It would lead Sports Center,
it would be a big big deal. Should Or is
trying to earn this job, and it's tougher because he
is should Or Sanders. Does it open doors, yes. Do
you get a lot of attention publicity, yes, but more
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eyes are on you. They want to know can you
play the position at a high level? And I think
what he said is, Dad, let me wait till I'm
an NFL quarterback. Let me wait till I'm the starter here,
then if you want to come to camp. Dion did
go to Shiloh Sanders. He's with Tampa Bay. I think
he was undrafted free agent. But I think he has
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a chance to make the team. But it has to
be a little bit awkward though, if I'm a coach
and Dion's in town and all of a sudden, you know, man,
how Shiloh doing. Hey, peg puts.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
In the work.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Hey, you know he's got a chance. Like you kind
of have to say something nice. It's like when you
go to a parent teacher conference when your kid is
young and you know that she's a problem in class,
but they go, well, you know, she's interesting, she's got
good spirit there. You know, they try to tell you
something positive there. But Shiloh may make the roster in
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Tampa Bay and maybe the Cleveland Browns keep four quarterbacks
even though they got six in there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Now, Yes, Tod, And.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Why would you want any hint at all or appearance
of preferential treatment that's not to say that any head
coach at GM because Deon's there, is gonna treat you
nicer or give you a better chance to be a
starter or get more reps. But just the look of that,
you don't want anyone to even be whispering that among
your teammates.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Deon's here, he's gotting.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, this is different. This is the NFL. This isn't
a Dion's here. We're gonna start you. That's not happening.
This is a meritocracy.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Are you good?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Can you be the starter on this team? Can we
win games with you? Like all of those things. It's
not Dion's here, we're gonna put you in. Or this
happened to me with one of my daughters playing basketball.
I showed up, and you know, my daughter wasn't good,
but the coach then gave my daughter more playing time.
I pulled him to the side and I said, hey, coach,
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it's okay if Grace is on the bench, I'm fine
with that. He goes, okay, all right. I just didn't
want you to come out. And then she didn't play.
I go, no, No, she had to earn it. Don't
worry about that, yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Laughing it's like the first dad to argue for less
playing time.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I did, well, I know how that feels.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey, coach, I gotta talk to you, way too much
time on the ice.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Could you just play him a little less?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Please? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I might have had that conversation with my son's coach.
You know, hey, you don't have to play him because
I'm here. You don't have to. I mean, if he
gets in, great, but you don't have to play. The
national title odds, Ohio State and Texas have the same
exact odds. Then it's Penn State and Georgia with the
same odds, Clemson, Alabama the same odds, Oregon and Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
With the same odds.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
College football starts in a couple of weeks, so get
ready for that. Any other pole questions that you're talking
about there seton, Well, I'm trying to.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Come up with one just based off of that. Do
you think the say, national champion this year in college
football will come from those top three seeds or other?
I do think it's interesting that Texas, Ohio State, and
Penn State all have like double Penn State has fourteen
first place votes and they're in third. Yeah, Ohio State
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has twenty and Texas is twenty eight. That's kind of
it's not exactly even, but it's closer than it feels
like normally happens in those three spots.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I would probably go with other because of a twelve
team playoff, and it feels like not parody, but it
feels like there's a pretty sizable group that's talented enough
to win. But you know, it goes back to when
you think of March Madness. You got to win six
games to win the national title. You got to win
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more games here in a playoff setting to win the
national title. It isn't season ends. It's one versus two,
or you have a fourteen playoff. Now we have twelve,
and there's always that chance somebody is going to play
their best football and knock you off, or you don't
play your best and you know you're vulnerable in an upset.
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But I probably take the rest of the field if
I gave you Ohio State, Texas, Penn State. All right,
well take a break. Chris Simms will join us on
loan from NBC Sports. We will hear from Sterling Sharp,
the Packers Hall of Famer a little bit later on
as well.
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He is an owner of a soccer team. And you
watched a couple of episodes and then you watch two
more episodes. It's a total of five episodes with Tom
with his soccer club in England.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, I got one more to go. I'm through the
first four.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
First two we're a little rough for Tom. Second two
we're better. Okay, mostly because he's less involved. Okay, this
the second two episodes, he's like either in Miami or
somewhere in the Caribbean or it's a little bit back
and forth, a lot less time in the locker room,
a lot less time around the players being like, hey,
you know, I know how to win. There is a
really funny moment though, with the coach save it, sa it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You said save it, save it, but I could have
said something else that sounded like save it if I
don't want to give it away, give it away, give
it away.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Now?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
All right, did we decide on the poll question?
Speaker 9 (16:30):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, we're gonna go with this year's national champions will
be either Texas, Ohio State, or Penn State or other
other Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well I know where Chris Sims will be any former
Texas Longhorn Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor to
Football Night in America. The Longhorns open up with the
Ohio State. We're gonna get a really good idea about
arch manning. I guess that first week there your thoughts
on that matchup, and I love that we're starting out
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with something that has some weight to it, that means
something to it. But I'm with you on the road
at Ohio State to open up your season.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean it's awesome, especially where I think a
lot of people thought maybe last year that semi final
matchup was the national championship game. I'm not trying to
disrespect Notre Dame or anything like that. They had a
phenomenal gear. I mean, yeah, on the road week one
and another aspect I like about it, like, yeah, you're
gonna have one verse two two heavyweights, and you know,
like the old days, Dan, it was like, oh man,
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whoever loses their season's over and they can't win the
national championship. That's changed. So that to me makes college
football a whole lot better. But how can you not
be excited about the Longhorns, right, I mean, from all
my understanding, the world was crazy last year and they
were losing their mind that Ohio State was spending twenty
million on their football team.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
What's Texas close to this year? Almost forty million?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
They do everything big down in Texas, that's for sure.
And they're pumped about arch Manning. I know that from
talk the people first hand down there. I think they
one of the reasons they kind of like maybe pushed
Quinn Ewers out the door was because of the potential
the talent of Arch Manning and where he can bring
the team, and you know, the whole program as itself,
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because you know, even the Longhorns are as famous and
as awesome as they are. You have a quarterback like
Arch Manning, he's in the Heisman conversation, You're the number
one team in the country. Man, you might not have
to pay all these guys as much to even come
there after that, because everybody's gonna want to jump on
the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, Arch Manning Heisman Trophy candidate, one of the top ones.
Probably if he was coming out after this year, the
projections would be he would be a high pick, right right, right? Okay,
is it because how much of this is Arch Manning
as opposed to Arch Johnson?
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Well, oh, I hear what you're saying. Well, yeah, I
mean the Manning name helps that a little bit. It
makes everybody feel warm and cozy. You go, wait, wait,
this is in his de He knows what to expect
as far as football and what it's in. You know,
what it takes to be good at that on a
day to day business, on a day to day basis.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's the family business.
Speaker 10 (19:10):
So yeah, does that add a little bit more of
you know, comfort level to evaluators and stuff like that.
Sure does. The names in his family also maybe boost
him up. There are people just to go, well they
were good. I think he'll be good too. Sure, but
I don't think you get to this point with arch Manning.
And I experienced this too as Chris sims. Oh oh,
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you're only here because you're Phil Simson. Oh yeah, I mean,
do you know anybody else my age that could throw
the football like me?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, you don't.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
That's why I'm here, Okay, Right, so there, at some
point it has to become like the rubber hits the
road and whoa arch Manning maybe runs four five. Oh wow,
he's got a pretty quick release. Oh he's got a
strong arm. He can really spin the ball. So I
think there's enough proof in the putting pudding there to
justify where he's at.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Hey got a little defensive.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
There, Well yeah, I just I know, I know what
you're saying, and I'm not defensive at all. I just
you know, when I get into that mode, I start,
you know, getting into like my fake Phil Simms voice
and start doing that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We were talking about backup quarterbacks. The Browns have added
Tyler Huntley. There you got four quarterbacks, which means you
don't have one quarterback. And in today's NFL, what's the
likelihood that you can carry four quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
Very unlikely. I mean, it's rare that they keep three.
That's that's where this whole thing is odd. And maybe
they will keep four. I don't know. And again, the
word I've kind of used with the Browns and all
that is just to you know, and I say this
even with the Dallas Cowboys with their bad contracts, team building, right, yo,
the value of the quarterback. He's an asset. Oh yeah,
(20:49):
that's great. Oh, teams need quarterbacks there, they're at a
premium all that. Ooh, our analytics say to take them here.
But what about the human aspect of like, oh, the
Shador Sanders conversation is gonna overtake your franchise. And every
day I get a statistical update on Instagram or whatever
else telling me how they all did all because of
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Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So it's just a weird situation altogether.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
I feel bad for him in the situations he's in.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But the Browns are in a weird spot.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
I would have gone into last week Dan going I
don't know what they're gonna do. I was thinking, like, Okay,
Kenny Pickett, they're gonna keep him because hey, he's still young.
He did have some good moments in Pittsburgh. There's still
maybe some untapped potential. You see what you got there.
You keep Shador, you keep Dylan Gabriel because you're not
gonna be able to put them on the practice squad.
(21:39):
I don't think they'll clear waivers in the twenty four
hour period. Some team will snag them and take them,
so you're gonna have to keep them on the roster.
I was kind of in the boat of I think
Joe Flacco will be the odd man out if things
stayed status quo. You know what he is, he's older,
he's not exactly mister take care of the football all
the time. And that's where I thought. But now we
(22:01):
got the Kenny Pickett hamstring injury. Now we got a
Dylan Gabriel hamstring injury. Shador Sanders was dealing with a
little arm issue this past weekend, and now I don't
know what to think.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
The hell is going to happen there?
Speaker 10 (22:12):
And yeah, they might be forced to keep Joe Flacca
and figure out some other creative ways to keep all
four of these guys.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
How often did teams tank in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Not very often? Right?
Speaker 10 (22:25):
The problem is the front office might tell the coaches
or whatever else, hey, play, these guys do all this.
We want to keep this guy out because we don't
want to pay him guaranteed money if he gets hurt
after the year and all that. So the front office
and ownership might try to set it up to hey,
I hope we don't win the game, but damn, it's
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hard to make the coaches and players buy into that.
I mean, you know, put yourself in some guy's shoe.
Oh I'm the second stringer. They're trying to tank the game.
I don't care. This is the first time all year
I get to get out here, put film for my
future job, another team me and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I'm going all out.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
And more times than not, the teams that do that,
the coaches are like, wait, it looks like they might
fire me this year. The hell would them? I'm going
to coach great this week A La Girodmeo Week eighteen.
Last year screwing over the New England Patriots. Right, So, yeah,
that's where it's hard to just full out tank maybe
to the same extent some of the other sports can
pull it off, it's a little different in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host you'll see
him on Football Night in America's podcast is called Unbuttoned,
former NFL college quarterback. The Rams situation I find really
intriguing because it feels like there's season which could be
a Super Bowl season is hinging on Matthew Stafford. Right now,
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you do have Jimmy Garoppolo, but this is a team
that went toe to toe with the Eagles in Philadelphia
last year and I don't see and you know why
they shouldn't be considered one of the favorites for the
NFC again this year. But what like a injury that's
day to day or now it's been weak to week here, right,
what are we looking at with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
In the Ram.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
Little concerning, but I'm not like overly concerned yet. Hey,
good thing is they do have a Jimmy Garoppolo, and
I do think he could get you through two, three,
four games. Well, let's not get it messed up. Jimmy
Garoppo ain't Matthew Stafford. Stafford is special, and yeah he
makes them a super Bowl team with all the things
they got around him. I'm with you in that conversation, Dan,
I mean that they are a super Bowl team. They
(24:29):
had the Eagles on the ropes like you talked about.
I mean, I was sitting there on the field watching
it happen. They got everything you need, coaches, young talent, playmakers, quarterback,
all of it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I won't be concerned. Well, you we heard McVeigh yesterday.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
They say, I think you know, he's maybe about ten
days away. To me, that's encouraging. That means that they're
feeling like it's going in the right direction to where
he could practice. But if we get to like August twentieth,
August twenty third, and we're still still dealing with this,
I'd be a little like, oh, man, no, I don't
know that.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, that's a little worrisome.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Hey, the lower back back is a pain in the
butt for a thrower of the football. Tony Romo, damn,
he had to retire because of it. Troy Aikman had
to retire because of it. You know, my dad had
a little issues. It happens because of that torking you
do as a quarterback all the time, over and over
and over, and sometimes your feet and are in awkward,
(25:21):
awkward spots and you still tork. And that's where they
got to be careful on that. They just got to
make sure it goes away, because it's one of those
things when you're lower back and you go, oh, I'm
about ninety five percent. I think I can go out
there today and do it. The first time he throws
a few lasers, he goes, oh, I'm back to sixty
five percent. And this is one you gotta make sure
you do your due diligence, make sure it's wiped away
(25:42):
so that he can get after it. But we know, man,
this is one of the damn toughest quarterbacks we've seen.
I expect him to be out there Week one, ready
to go more threatening.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Rams are Chargers.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oooh, I would say the I will go with the Rams. Okay.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
The Chargers are threatening, no question, And I got to
see them in per There's a real vibe in that
team and belief.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
But that AFC West, we know how good it is.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
I think it's arguably the greatest coaches in one division
in the history of football, if not definitely the greatest
coaches in one division. We know Mahomes is there. I
do think the Dan Broncos are real, right. We heard
Sean Payton say that the other day. I think the
Broncos are a team that like, Okay, people talking about playoffs,
but I think ours kind of a sneaky.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Super Bowl contender, contender.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
One of the best defenses in football only got better
with the two forty nine ers they signed in free agency.
Bo Nick's second year Evan Ingram at tight end. I'd say, ooh,
that's gonna be a nice addition.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
For Sean Payton and this RJ.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
Harvey they got in the second round oft the Central
Florida I think has a chance to be a real
special player. So I put Denver maybe a notch up
above the Chargers as far as that team that could
surprise people and disrupt some of the matchups we'd like
to see in the AFC playoffs.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
When does it become a concern to you, as a
former player now analyst, with what's happening with Michael Parsons.
At what point you know in this month would you then,
you know, start to have some real concerns.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I already have concerns, Like I made the comment yesterday
with Floria on Pro Football Talk, like you know, circus
doesn't translate to Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Right.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
The football gods they can't look upon this and go, oh,
this is the way you handle a football team. The
way they do contracts is ridiculous. It costs them with
having to pay They could have got Michael Parsons for
thirty four to thirty five million dollars last year. Now
they're gonna have to pay more than forty one. They
should forty three forty four. And those are two or
(27:37):
three players on your football team. When you add that
up to Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb and how they
drag their feet on all of that. But let alone
like the owner taking kind of like what cheap shots
to a degree, i'd Michael Parsons all his back's out there,
this is contracts. Oh he missed six games last year
when he really missed four. Right, They put out things
(27:58):
like you know, oh, god, she's a little bit of
a pain in the butt in.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
The building, Like really, he can get a Cowboys hit
buy a car.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
When he said that I mean.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Exactly, there's just been too many weird messaging. Micah Parsons
has handled it like a true pro been there been,
trying to be selfless, trying to be a good leader.
And then also the other part of it that I
can't stand dan is like Jerry Jones, I don't want
the agent there, No crap, you don't want the agent there, Jerry,
this is your.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Wheelhouse doing business deals.
Speaker 10 (28:28):
I mean that's like making hey, Jerry gets some shoulder
pads of a helmet and do a tackling drill against
Michael Parsons. That's like, it's like an equal conversation there,
not fair right, let alone against the bylaws of the
NFL and the CBA.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
So it is a distraction.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
They can say what they want, and I'm getting to
the point where I think Micah is gonna maybe have
to play hardball and maybe he has to start having
a a press conference like Jerry does every few days
and let everybody know what's really going on.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The Bengals situation kind of tapered off because of Michah
Parsons and the Cowboys get all the oxygen in the room.
This is a Bengal team that's all in on offense.
But you know, having an eyewitness who's watched the Bengals
practice twice and he said, defensively, they're in trouble.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
I mean, they weren't a good defense last year. There's
not really a whole lot of Marquee household names on
the defense to make you think, oh wow, it's gonna
drastically turn around. Their biggest thing is they got Al
Golden and the new defensive coordinator there, right, and hopefully
he can be creative schematically to give them some advantages.
(29:35):
And I'm not shocked too to hear that it's not
going great for them at times. Right they are learning
a new defense, and damn you got to go against
Joe Burrow, Chase and Higgins every day.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
We saw last year.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
I don't care what defense you are, it's hard to
stop that crew right there. But man, it does seem
like there's gonna be a lot of pressure on that offense.
The Trey Hendrickson thing, not only did they need him
as a leader and he's the best player on their defense.
To me, it's twofold in the fact that the kid
they drafted in the first round, Shamar Stewart, he's got
superstar potential, but he's raw. He's simple. He doesn't do
(30:08):
any pass rushers moves. He just is like I just
go that way and that's all I do. So you're
hurting his development by not having Trey hendrickson there as well.
So yeah, hopefully they can get that ironed out. Because man,
when you watch Joe Burrow and company and they're good
in the AFC against of course Mahomes and Lamar and
Josh Allen, man, that just doesn't get any better than that.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Do we give Joe Burrow a Hall pass because he
beat Mahomes in Kansas City to go to the super Bowl?
But after that, I mean you're looking at not getting
to the playoffs a few years, right, even performance in
the play like I don't know.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
I well, you know, he had them on the ropes
right the next year in the AFC Championship game and
they got the late hit out of Mounds on Mahomes
right where he's kind of like, oh man, it feels
like Cincinnati about to pull this off, so that happens.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Injury has been an issue.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
I think the fact that the Bengals do things dysfunctionally
does like maybe give him somewhat of a free pass
to your point there, But you know, all in all,
two years ago, they were hot late in the year
and he hurt his wrist. Injury has been his biggest
kryptonite last year. I don't know what else you can do, right,
(31:25):
I mean, damn his thirty points every game. He just
going up and down the field, throwing for two hundred
and eighty yards every game, three touchdowes. He carried the
team as much as you've seen anybody carry the team.
So no, I don't think we give him a free pass.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I don't.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
Hey, we got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all time
greats in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
They haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet. They
haven't even been able.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
To beat that guy Mahomes one time yet in these
damn playoff games or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So that's one to me.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
One of the cool storylines of the year is can
Lamar and Josh Allen His talent and as awesome a
quarterbacks as I've ever seen my life have yet to
be to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Could this be the year?
Speaker 10 (32:04):
I don't know, but yeah, it's pretty unreal with the
quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think Joe Burrow is
truly phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Okay, give me the team that you like. Sneaky team
that you like.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, all right, sneaky team. All right.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
So here's one that I don't think a team gets
put en up in the in the super Bowl window.
I think the Houston Texans are going to be one
of those teams this year that I'll just say that.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I know they're not sneaking up on anybody.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
As far as playoffs, well, they jumped off the bandwagon
last year, right.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
I think, And I think a lot of that had
to do with the offensive coordinator and some of the
issues there. The defense is awesome, that's not even you know, disputable.
Nico Collins was hurt a bunch last year. They lost
Stefan Diggs, their pass protection was pitiful. I think they'll
be better at receiver and I think you'll see CJ.
Stroud have more of a hand in the pass protection
(32:54):
this year. So I would put them in that super
Bowl window or they're a little rated in my opinion.
I think another the New England Patriots are of course
the other team i'd look at to go watch out.
It just seems like between that coaching staff, they one
of the teams that won the offseason where I'd go,
we are sitting here late December, going man New England.
(33:15):
If they win this week, they could go to the playoffs.
I would not be shocked by that at all. That's
one and one more I'll thought of you. The Jets
have the talent to surprise people.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Look at youth.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
People are overlooking it. But they got some talent. I
mean they do.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
And I believe in Aaron Glenn and I don't think
they're gonna make it all about the quarterback. They're gonna
run the ball, They're gonna play defense. There'll be a
pain in the butt. But I think my leader there
would probably be New England and one of those teams
that you're talking about as far as that just really
jumps out and surprises us.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I like you fired up. I gotta I gotta get
you defensive to start out.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And when am I not fired up? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You tell me, you know, because you know your dad.
Little nepotism.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
And then yeah, hey, tell those jerks you got on
the show.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And I said, hi, alright, oh oh.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I said hi, wow, I'm fired up.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
All right, Hey, hey, Jerks. Chris Simms says, hello, thank you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
All right, Dan, always good being on.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Thanks guys, Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host.
You'll find him with Mike Florio. The show that precedes
ours and the Jerks is a little rough, all right,
a little rough.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
We were used to that now, that's kind of our relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Okay, all right, let me take a break. When we
come back. Play of the Day. Seaton gives us his
review of the next two episodes of Tom Brady. The
first two episodes didn't go well for the five part series.
It is a five part series. We were wondering about
Tom's character arc in the documentary. Maybe the reviews are
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expert Seaton O Connor said that he had watched the
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first two episodes of the Tom Brady documentary. What's the
official title of the Tom Brady Soccer documentary?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Built in Birmingham? Okay, Tom and the Blues?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The Birmingham Blues a third tier soccer team. Yeah, they
sort of.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
They spent a lot of their history going between like
the first and second tiers, between Premier League and Championship.
Have found themselves down into the third tier though for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay, so Tom is one of the new owners there,
fired everybody and didn't go well. But now getting a
little bit better. The first two episodes you talked about
Tom and maybe lack of soccer knowledge but kind of
leaning on the coaching cliche book for quotes to his
(37:00):
is organizations.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, it's just it's just an interesting look. The show
is really good. It's a fun watch, but that you know,
like I say yesterday, that formula is sort of undefeated,
of like go in, get a team, learn the people,
try to rebuild it kind of thing that'll work across
any sport, right, Okay, But what was surprising was just
sort of the view of Tom that he was allowing
you to see, where he was kind of like, Yeah,
(37:24):
it doesn't really matter that I don't know anything because
I know winning, Like, oh, who's Aston Villa? Who cares
if we're in the same town, we're better than them, Like, dude,
they're like a Champions League caliber.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Team, Like what are you talking about? How do you
not know that?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Especially just as a businessman, Right, So he kind of
has this air of like, doesn't matter because I know
winning because I came from nothing and look at me,
I'm the greatest ever. So it doesn't matter I win.
That's just what I do.
Speaker 10 (37:46):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
This first two episodes were heavy on that heavy. This
second two were great because it was way less of
Tom and his business side of things and more about
the actual people. Like here's a player who they just
signed for big money, whose father was a professional player
but died when he was young, and like, now you're
getting like the real storylines there. And Tom would uh.
(38:11):
Usually he checks in either from a private jet is
he's flying somewhere, or from some amazing mansion somewhere in
the world where he's catching up on the game on
his iPad, but there's like a Teaki hut behind him
and he's like, yeah, oh yeah, I'm really invested in this.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, But the coach doesn't really understand the whole Tom
Brady Aura.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
There's no not really. He knows that he's great. He
knows that in the game that he played, he's really great.
There are a lot of moments where you can see
like Tom will be like, you know, I remember when
Bill Belichick first said to me, and it just flies
right over everybody's head, and he's like, he's a coach,
He's like one of the best coaches of all time
in the NFL anyway, and he sort of goes on,
there's a moment with the where the coach is doing
(38:55):
an interview like one of those like two camera interviews,
and he's like, yeah, you know, Tom, I'm really lucky
to have a guy like Tom giving me so much advice,
one of the greatest athletes in the world. And he
sent me a video from a coach, Nick Saban. Nick Sabon,
he uh has an interesting coaching philosophy. I appreciate Tom
(39:19):
sharing that with me, and then you hear there's Tom again.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Tom just sent me another.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Nick Nick Saban is a coach in America, very famous.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Paul in Chicago. Hi Paul, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (39:38):
Hey Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Uh? Yeah, thanks, guys.
I watched last night because Seton was was talking about
it yesterday, and I'm loving it. Seaton, I don't know
if I agree with what you were saying, like the
bar scene you were describing, like I didn't see him
(40:00):
ever say like how much time do I have to
spend with them, like saying them would have come off bad.
I agree, but he really just said, like, Paul On,
are week here or something like that, And then I
just got to the Beckham scene when Brady's in the
limo and he said, you know, it's that thing stupid
not to give Beckham a kit or something like that,
and then described like, hey, he has energy. He feels
(40:23):
like he was treated well, he's gonna go home and
root for the team and publicize or whatever. So I
don't know, I just I look at this like I'm
loving it. I think the Brady message he's said shits
like those like little ignorant moments are kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
He's just he's just.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
Saying, like, guys, I am great, I am going. He's like,
good talent can win you games, but sustained greatness is
like systemic, it's up process as leadership. It's the New
England Patriots. Like I get all that, and that's what
he's gonna come off.
Speaker 10 (40:55):
Like.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
I think the only way he'll look stupid in this.
Tell me if you guys disagree, is if the team
ends up failing and is not good, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well, yeah they headed in that direction, maybe they're headed back. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
See yeah, I mean in the first season that Tom
was the owner, he got them relegated because of his decisions,
so that would be an instance of failing. Although they
fly through it and it's only one episode, but it's
actually a full year of soccer or close to anyway.
But now I agree with everything that that person just said.
I love it. I think it's great. It's just an
interesting look from him.
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in no particular order, talking quarterbacks today, but also backup
(01:10):
quarterbacks as well, the Cleveland Browns, I believe, have six
quarterbacks in their quarterback room. There's a chance they keep
four to start the season. And the reason why I
bring this up, it's for a variety of reasons, but
I think the most important one is your backup quarterback
situation with the Rams with Matthew Stafford. They got Jimmy Garoppolo.
(01:33):
That's a high end backup. I mean, you got a
backup who started in the Super Bowl. We don't know
the severity of Matthew Stafford. It feels like it's day
to day with the back issues there.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But this is a.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Team that can challenge to win the NFC. They're that
talented and it might come down to Matthew Stafford's health.
And if that's the case, Jimmy Garoppolo, how much does
he play? Stetson Bentett is the backup to the backup.
But look at some of these situations around the NFL,
and you need to have if you're a really good team,
(02:07):
you kind of have to have a really good backup
because if your starter goes down, you don't want the
season to go down as well. But we'll talk about
that coming up. And the Cleveland Browns brought in Tyler Hunting. Now,
if you look at the headlines, it's Brown's bring in
former Pro Bowl Pro bowler Tyler Hunting, and I went, well, okay,
(02:31):
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The reality is he made the Pro Bowl in twenty
twenty two. His stats this year two touchdown passes, three
interceptions and rushing for one hundred and thirty seven yards.
The Pro Bowl used to mean something, and he did
a pretty good job with Lamar Jackson's absence when he
was with Baltimore, and he's a solid backup. But you're
(02:53):
going to the Cleveland Browns and you already have a
quarterback heavy room. When you have that many quarterbacks, you
don't have a quarterback. Joe Flacco's age, the inexperience of
Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, and then the curiosity of
Kenny Pickett. They're all injured, but not you know, serious injuries,
(03:14):
but you still have nagging injuries and you're trying to
get everybody enough reps. It feels like it's Joe Flacco's
job to lose from what I'm told, But I thought
at the beginning Kenny Pickett was going to be the
number one guy. Flacco the backup, and then you're going
to have to figure out if you're keeping three or
four quarterbacks with Shadoor Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. Now you
(03:37):
bring in Tyler Hunting as well, but I think that's
because you know you've got.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
A preseason game coming up.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think this Friday, you got to have somebody play
in the position who's healthy enough. And that might be
the case there, but we'll look at some of the
other backup quarterback situations here and the importance speaking of
what Chris Sims, who was a backup quarterback for a
portion of his NFL career, will join us as well.
The college football rankings came out. It's Texas, Ohio State,
(04:05):
Penn State, Georgia, Notre Dame, Clemson, Oregon, and Alabama. And
we were wondering, when's the last time you had the
two top teams in the country meeting to open up
the season. This is the first time it's happened in
the history of college football. And you go back to
the ap Poles started in nineteen thirty six, the Coaches
(04:27):
Poll started in nineteen fifty. We've never had number one
versus two in Week one, and if you're going to
ease into the season, not exactly doing that. If you're
arch Manning. We're going to get a really good idea
about arch Manning on the road against Ohio State to
open up the season. Well, this isn't you know Louisiana, Louisiana,
(04:51):
Monroe or Mercer or any of those schools. It's you're
playing the Ohio State at Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
The defending national champions. Yes, going into Columbus ranked number one.
For really, what is your first game? That's you can
already see the hero or zero storylines for arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Here's another thing that I found interesting. I find this
college football season to be wide open. I think the
voters felt that way too, because you have Texas, Ohio State,
and Penn State, and they all got double digit votes
to be the best team in the country at least
to start out. We'll talk about this second ten. I
think that's what's interesting. These are sort of the usuals,
(05:32):
the usual suspects. I like Clemson a lot more than
I probably thought I was going to Oregon's in there,
Alabama at ten, Notre Dames in there, Georgia, so Penn State,
Ohio State, Texas, and it should be a fun season.
I don't know when we're adding four more teams to
(05:52):
the playoffs. It's probably next year. But once again, it's
gray area there. It's just like the NCAA Tournament more madness.
I was told two weeks ago, get ready for a
decision if they're going to expand or be status quo.
Well we finally got around to that yesterday where they
said they're not going to expand March madness, which I
(06:12):
think is really good. I would like them to take
away some of these bids of the opportunity. I'd like
get reduced a little bit more, but that's not going
to happen. We always add, we never subtract. And if
you're at sixty eight, I do think we'll eventually get
to seventy two. And I'm told you might get to
seventy six as well before the end of this decade.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes, Marvin, sorry, are my eyes deceiving me?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Texas at Ohio State August.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thirtieth, noon, Yeah, yeah, oh wow, big noon kickoffs? Yeah,
I know. Ohio State. I think has got a lot
of noon kickoffs. I don't think they're too play I
think Ryan days to please with the big noon kickoff there,
but all eyes will be on that. You would think
that's a Saturday night type game, right, yeah, seton.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
But you might be if you're say Texas and arch Manning,
you might love Just wake up, get to the field,
get the game over with.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You're not sitting around.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
All day waiting to go all right here here, okay,
stay LuSE gotta the just get the game, let's play.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I was watching the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft, the
John Lway Draft and Dan Marino. I was watching the
thirty for thirty last night. That took place in the morning.
I think it started at eight am and at noon.
Now I'm there. I met the Marriott Marquis and you
had to be upstairs to look down upon the draft.
(07:45):
And I don't remember if how many players were there.
I don't remember players being there. I remember running into
John Madden, but it was just when you think about showcasing,
you usually wait and you want it out. You want to,
you know, put it on the best time slot. The
NFL Draft, I think started at eight am and ended
(08:06):
at noon that day. All right, see what's pull question today?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, we probably got a gajillion of them off of
the college football list there. That's a lot that one
exactly one gajillion. Yes, we also have a couple of
options from the t DUB you're interested in those, such as,
if you're a pro athlete, are there any circumstances where
you'd want your parent at training camp? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, well, this is a Shadoor Sanders talking about
why he doesn't want Dion Sanders at training camp.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I don't want him come in to see me right
now because I want to get to where I want
to go in for him to see me now, I
don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You know, get a couple of reptions.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
You know, he's cheering like a good dad, like, nah,
you can't be proud of me right now. I gotta
get to where I'm going, and I know it's a
lot I gotta do to get there. So it's kind
of like I just want everything that I'm doing is
just like focus on this time. I mean, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Know distraction because we know out the media, we know
how everybody would.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Take it and take away from the team just from
him being my own dad sowing up. So you know,
it's a gift that occurs at the same time.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's a great answer, and by all accounts, he has
been what they thought he was going to be. Now
I know we've had the speeding tickets. By all accounts though,
how he handles himself with the veterans when he's in
camp that he has put in the time and he
realizes he's a rookie, he is not looking for expecting
preferential treatment. And once again, this is somebody with the
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Browns who said this, and this was somebody who didn't
think they should have drafted Shador Sanders, because if you
really wanted him, and you want to send the message
you really want him, you would have drafted him earlier.
It felt like a I don't know, let's just take
him after you take Dylan Gabriel. Now that's aside from
the point of him looking at him and saying he's
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done what you've wanted, expected, hoped for and coming to
camp would be a spectacle. It would lead Sports Center,
it would be a big big deal. Should Or is
trying to earn this job, and it's tougher because he
is should Or Sanders. Does it open doors, yes. Do
you get a lot of attention publicity, yes, but more
(10:17):
eyes are on you. They want to know can you
play the position at a high level? And I think
what he said is, Dad, let me wait till I'm
an NFL quarterback. Let me wait till I'm the starter here,
then if you want to come to camp. Dion did
go to Shiloh Sanders. He's with Tampa Bay. I think
he was undrafted free agent. But I think he has
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a chance to make the team. But it has to
be a little bit awkward though, if I'm a coach
and Dion's in town and all of a sudden, you know, man,
how Shiloh doing. Hey, peg puts.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
In the work.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Hey, you know he's got a chance. Like you kind
of have to say something nice. It's like when you
go to a parent teacher conference when your kid is
young and you know that she's a problem in class,
but they go, well, you know, she's interesting, she's got
good spirit there. You know, they try to tell you
something positive there. But Shiloh may make the roster in
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Tampa Bay and maybe the Cleveland Browns keep four quarterbacks
even though they got six in there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Now, Yes, Tod, And.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Why would you want any hint at all or appearance
of preferential treatment that's not to say that any head
coach at GM because Deon's there, is gonna treat you
nicer or give you a better chance to be a
starter or get more reps. But just the look of that,
you don't want anyone to even be whispering that among
your teammates.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Deon's here, he's gotting.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, this is different. This is the NFL. This isn't
a Dion's here. We're gonna start you. That's not happening.
This is a meritocracy.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Are you good?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Can you be the starter on this team? Can we
win games with you? Like all of those things. It's
not Dion's here, we're gonna put you in. Or this
happened to me with one of my daughters playing basketball.
I showed up, and you know, my daughter wasn't good,
but the coach then gave my daughter more playing time.
I pulled him to the side and I said, hey, coach,
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it's okay if Grace is on the bench, I'm fine
with that. He goes, okay, all right. I just didn't
want you to come out. And then she didn't play.
I go, no, No, she had to earn it. Don't
worry about that, yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Laughing it's like the first dad to argue for less
playing time.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I did, well, I know how that feels.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey, coach, I gotta talk to you, way too much
time on the ice.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Could you just play him a little less?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Please? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I might have had that conversation with my son's coach.
You know, hey, you don't have to play him because
I'm here. You don't have to. I mean, if he
gets in, great, but you don't have to play. The
national title odds, Ohio State and Texas have the same
exact odds. Then it's Penn State and Georgia with the
same odds, Clemson, Alabama the same odds, Oregon and Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
With the same odds.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
College football starts in a couple of weeks, so get
ready for that. Any other pole questions that you're talking
about there seton, Well, I'm trying to.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Come up with one just based off of that. Do
you think the say, national champion this year in college
football will come from those top three seeds or other?
I do think it's interesting that Texas, Ohio State, and
Penn State all have like double Penn State has fourteen
first place votes and they're in third. Yeah, Ohio State
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has twenty and Texas is twenty eight. That's kind of
it's not exactly even, but it's closer than it feels
like normally happens in those three spots.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I would probably go with other because of a twelve
team playoff, and it feels like not parody, but it
feels like there's a pretty sizable group that's talented enough
to win. But you know, it goes back to when
you think of March Madness. You got to win six
games to win the national title. You got to win
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more games here in a playoff setting to win the
national title. It isn't season ends. It's one versus two,
or you have a fourteen playoff. Now we have twelve,
and there's always that chance somebody is going to play
their best football and knock you off, or you don't
play your best and you know you're vulnerable in an upset.
(14:27):
But I probably take the rest of the field if
I gave you Ohio State, Texas, Penn State. All right,
well take a break. Chris Simms will join us on
loan from NBC Sports. We will hear from Sterling Sharp,
the Packers Hall of Famer a little bit later on
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
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Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yesterday, Seaton gave us a review of the Tom Brady documentary.
He is an owner of a soccer team. And you
watched a couple of episodes and then you watch two
more episodes. It's a total of five episodes with Tom
with his soccer club in England.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, I got one more to go. I'm through the
first four.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
First two we're a little rough for Tom. Second two
we're better. Okay, mostly because he's less involved. Okay, this
the second two episodes, he's like either in Miami or
somewhere in the Caribbean or it's a little bit back
and forth, a lot less time in the locker room,
a lot less time around the players being like, hey,
you know, I know how to win. There is a
really funny moment though, with the coach save it, sa it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You said save it, save it, but I could have
said something else that sounded like save it if I
don't want to give it away, give it away, give
it away.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Now?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
All right, did we decide on the poll question?
Speaker 9 (16:30):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, we're gonna go with this year's national champions will
be either Texas, Ohio State, or Penn State or other
other Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well I know where Chris Sims will be any former
Texas Longhorn Pro Football Talk Live co host contributor to
Football Night in America. The Longhorns open up with the
Ohio State. We're gonna get a really good idea about
arch manning. I guess that first week there your thoughts
on that matchup, and I love that we're starting out
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with something that has some weight to it, that means
something to it. But I'm with you on the road
at Ohio State to open up your season.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean it's awesome, especially where I think a
lot of people thought maybe last year that semi final
matchup was the national championship game. I'm not trying to
disrespect Notre Dame or anything like that. They had a
phenomenal gear. I mean, yeah, on the road week one
and another aspect I like about it, like, yeah, you're
gonna have one verse two two heavyweights, and you know,
like the old days, Dan, it was like, oh man,
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whoever loses their season's over and they can't win the
national championship. That's changed. So that to me makes college
football a whole lot better. But how can you not
be excited about the Longhorns, right, I mean, from all
my understanding, the world was crazy last year and they
were losing their mind that Ohio State was spending twenty
million on their football team.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
What's Texas close to this year? Almost forty million?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:54):
They do everything big down in Texas, that's for sure.
And they're pumped about arch Manning. I know that from
talk the people first hand down there. I think they
one of the reasons they kind of like maybe pushed
Quinn Ewers out the door was because of the potential
the talent of Arch Manning and where he can bring
the team, and you know, the whole program as itself,
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because you know, even the Longhorns are as famous and
as awesome as they are. You have a quarterback like
Arch Manning, he's in the Heisman conversation, You're the number
one team in the country. Man, you might not have
to pay all these guys as much to even come
there after that, because everybody's gonna want to jump on
the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, Arch Manning Heisman Trophy candidate, one of the top ones.
Probably if he was coming out after this year, the
projections would be he would be a high pick, right right, right? Okay,
is it because how much of this is Arch Manning
as opposed to Arch Johnson?
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Well, oh, I hear what you're saying. Well, yeah, I
mean the Manning name helps that a little bit. It
makes everybody feel warm and cozy. You go, wait, wait,
this is in his de He knows what to expect
as far as football and what it's in. You know,
what it takes to be good at that on a
day to day business, on a day to day basis.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's the family business.
Speaker 10 (19:10):
So yeah, does that add a little bit more of
you know, comfort level to evaluators and stuff like that.
Sure does. The names in his family also maybe boost
him up. There are people just to go, well they
were good. I think he'll be good too. Sure, but
I don't think you get to this point with arch Manning.
And I experienced this too as Chris sims. Oh oh,
(19:31):
you're only here because you're Phil Simson. Oh yeah, I mean,
do you know anybody else my age that could throw
the football like me?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
No, you don't.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
That's why I'm here, Okay, Right, so there, at some
point it has to become like the rubber hits the
road and whoa arch Manning maybe runs four five. Oh wow,
he's got a pretty quick release. Oh he's got a
strong arm. He can really spin the ball. So I
think there's enough proof in the putting pudding there to
justify where he's at.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Hey got a little defensive.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
There, Well yeah, I just I know, I know what
you're saying, and I'm not defensive at all. I just
you know, when I get into that mode, I start,
you know, getting into like my fake Phil Simms voice
and start doing that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We were talking about backup quarterbacks. The Browns have added
Tyler Huntley. There you got four quarterbacks, which means you
don't have one quarterback. And in today's NFL, what's the
likelihood that you can carry four quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
Very unlikely. I mean, it's rare that they keep three.
That's that's where this whole thing is odd. And maybe
they will keep four. I don't know. And again, the
word I've kind of used with the Browns and all
that is just to you know, and I say this
even with the Dallas Cowboys with their bad contracts, team building, right, yo,
the value of the quarterback. He's an asset. Oh yeah,
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that's great. Oh, teams need quarterbacks there, they're at a
premium all that. Ooh, our analytics say to take them here.
But what about the human aspect of like, oh, the
Shador Sanders conversation is gonna overtake your franchise. And every
day I get a statistical update on Instagram or whatever
else telling me how they all did all because of
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Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So it's just a weird situation altogether.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
I feel bad for him in the situations he's in.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But the Browns are in a weird spot.
Speaker 10 (21:19):
I would have gone into last week Dan going I
don't know what they're gonna do. I was thinking, like, Okay,
Kenny Pickett, they're gonna keep him because hey, he's still young.
He did have some good moments in Pittsburgh. There's still
maybe some untapped potential. You see what you got there.
You keep Shador, you keep Dylan Gabriel because you're not
gonna be able to put them on the practice squad.
(21:39):
I don't think they'll clear waivers in the twenty four
hour period. Some team will snag them and take them,
so you're gonna have to keep them on the roster.
I was kind of in the boat of I think
Joe Flacco will be the odd man out if things
stayed status quo. You know what he is, he's older,
he's not exactly mister take care of the football all
the time. And that's where I thought. But now we
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got the Kenny Pickett hamstring injury. Now we got a
Dylan Gabriel hamstring injury. Shador Sanders was dealing with a
little arm issue this past weekend, and now I don't
know what to think.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
The hell is going to happen there?
Speaker 10 (22:12):
And yeah, they might be forced to keep Joe Flacca
and figure out some other creative ways to keep all
four of these guys.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
How often did teams tank in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Not very often? Right?
Speaker 10 (22:25):
The problem is the front office might tell the coaches
or whatever else, hey, play, these guys do all this.
We want to keep this guy out because we don't
want to pay him guaranteed money if he gets hurt
after the year and all that. So the front office
and ownership might try to set it up to hey,
I hope we don't win the game, but damn, it's
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hard to make the coaches and players buy into that.
I mean, you know, put yourself in some guy's shoe.
Oh I'm the second stringer. They're trying to tank the game.
I don't care. This is the first time all year
I get to get out here, put film for my
future job, another team me and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I'm going all out.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
And more times than not, the teams that do that,
the coaches are like, wait, it looks like they might
fire me this year. The hell would them? I'm going
to coach great this week A La Girodmeo Week eighteen.
Last year screwing over the New England Patriots. Right, So, yeah,
that's where it's hard to just full out tank maybe
to the same extent some of the other sports can
pull it off, it's a little different in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host you'll see
him on Football Night in America's podcast is called Unbuttoned,
former NFL college quarterback. The Rams situation I find really
intriguing because it feels like there's season which could be
a Super Bowl season is hinging on Matthew Stafford. Right now,
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you do have Jimmy Garoppolo, but this is a team
that went toe to toe with the Eagles in Philadelphia
last year and I don't see and you know why
they shouldn't be considered one of the favorites for the
NFC again this year. But what like a injury that's
day to day or now it's been weak to week here, right,
what are we looking at with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
In the Ram.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
Little concerning, but I'm not like overly concerned yet. Hey,
good thing is they do have a Jimmy Garoppolo, and
I do think he could get you through two, three,
four games. Well, let's not get it messed up. Jimmy
Garoppo ain't Matthew Stafford. Stafford is special, and yeah he
makes them a super Bowl team with all the things
they got around him. I'm with you in that conversation, Dan,
I mean that they are a super Bowl team. They
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had the Eagles on the ropes like you talked about.
I mean, I was sitting there on the field watching
it happen. They got everything you need, coaches, young talent, playmakers, quarterback,
all of it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I won't be concerned. Well, you we heard McVeigh yesterday.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
They say, I think you know, he's maybe about ten
days away. To me, that's encouraging. That means that they're
feeling like it's going in the right direction to where
he could practice. But if we get to like August twentieth,
August twenty third, and we're still still dealing with this,
I'd be a little like, oh, man, no, I don't
know that.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, that's a little worrisome.
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Hey, the lower back back is a pain in the
butt for a thrower of the football. Tony Romo, damn,
he had to retire because of it. Troy Aikman had
to retire because of it. You know, my dad had
a little issues. It happens because of that torking you
do as a quarterback all the time, over and over
and over, and sometimes your feet and are in awkward,
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awkward spots and you still tork. And that's where they
got to be careful on that. They just got to
make sure it goes away, because it's one of those
things when you're lower back and you go, oh, I'm
about ninety five percent. I think I can go out
there today and do it. The first time he throws
a few lasers, he goes, oh, I'm back to sixty
five percent. And this is one you gotta make sure
you do your due diligence, make sure it's wiped away
(25:42):
so that he can get after it. But we know, man,
this is one of the damn toughest quarterbacks we've seen.
I expect him to be out there Week one, ready
to go more threatening.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Rams are Chargers.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Oooh, I would say the I will go with the Rams. Okay.
Speaker 10 (25:55):
The Chargers are threatening, no question, And I got to
see them in per There's a real vibe in that
team and belief.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
But that AFC West, we know how good it is.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
I think it's arguably the greatest coaches in one division
in the history of football, if not definitely the greatest
coaches in one division. We know Mahomes is there. I
do think the Dan Broncos are real, right. We heard
Sean Payton say that the other day. I think the
Broncos are a team that like, Okay, people talking about playoffs,
but I think ours kind of a sneaky.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Super Bowl contender, contender.
Speaker 10 (26:27):
One of the best defenses in football only got better
with the two forty nine ers they signed in free agency.
Bo Nick's second year Evan Ingram at tight end. I'd say, ooh,
that's gonna be a nice addition.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
For Sean Payton and this RJ.
Speaker 10 (26:40):
Harvey they got in the second round oft the Central
Florida I think has a chance to be a real
special player. So I put Denver maybe a notch up
above the Chargers as far as that team that could
surprise people and disrupt some of the matchups we'd like
to see in the AFC playoffs.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
When does it become a concern to you, as a
former player now analyst, with what's happening with Michael Parsons.
At what point you know in this month would you then,
you know, start to have some real concerns.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I already have concerns, Like I made the comment yesterday
with Floria on Pro Football Talk, like you know, circus
doesn't translate to Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Right.
Speaker 10 (27:17):
The football gods they can't look upon this and go, oh,
this is the way you handle a football team. The
way they do contracts is ridiculous. It costs them with
having to pay They could have got Michael Parsons for
thirty four to thirty five million dollars last year. Now
they're gonna have to pay more than forty one. They
should forty three forty four. And those are two or
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three players on your football team. When you add that
up to Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb and how they
drag their feet on all of that. But let alone
like the owner taking kind of like what cheap shots
to a degree, i'd Michael Parsons all his back's out there,
this is contracts. Oh he missed six games last year
when he really missed four. Right, They put out things
(27:58):
like you know, oh, god, she's a little bit of
a pain in the butt in.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
The building, Like really, he can get a Cowboys hit
buy a car.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
When he said that I mean.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Exactly, there's just been too many weird messaging. Micah Parsons
has handled it like a true pro been there been,
trying to be selfless, trying to be a good leader.
And then also the other part of it that I
can't stand dan is like Jerry Jones, I don't want
the agent there, No crap, you don't want the agent there, Jerry,
this is your.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Wheelhouse doing business deals.
Speaker 10 (28:28):
I mean that's like making hey, Jerry gets some shoulder
pads of a helmet and do a tackling drill against
Michael Parsons. That's like, it's like an equal conversation there,
not fair right, let alone against the bylaws of the
NFL and the CBA.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
So it is a distraction.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
They can say what they want, and I'm getting to
the point where I think Micah is gonna maybe have
to play hardball and maybe he has to start having
a a press conference like Jerry does every few days
and let everybody know what's really going on.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The Bengals situation kind of tapered off because of Michah
Parsons and the Cowboys get all the oxygen in the room.
This is a Bengal team that's all in on offense.
But you know, having an eyewitness who's watched the Bengals
practice twice and he said, defensively, they're in trouble.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
I mean, they weren't a good defense last year. There's
not really a whole lot of Marquee household names on
the defense to make you think, oh wow, it's gonna
drastically turn around. Their biggest thing is they got Al
Golden and the new defensive coordinator there, right, and hopefully
he can be creative schematically to give them some advantages.
(29:35):
And I'm not shocked too to hear that it's not
going great for them at times. Right they are learning
a new defense, and damn you got to go against
Joe Burrow, Chase and Higgins every day.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
We saw last year.
Speaker 10 (29:45):
I don't care what defense you are, it's hard to
stop that crew right there. But man, it does seem
like there's gonna be a lot of pressure on that offense.
The Trey Hendrickson thing, not only did they need him
as a leader and he's the best player on their defense.
To me, it's twofold in the fact that the kid
they drafted in the first round, Shamar Stewart, he's got
superstar potential, but he's raw. He's simple. He doesn't do
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any pass rushers moves. He just is like I just
go that way and that's all I do. So you're
hurting his development by not having Trey hendrickson there as well.
So yeah, hopefully they can get that ironed out. Because man,
when you watch Joe Burrow and company and they're good
in the AFC against of course Mahomes and Lamar and
Josh Allen, man, that just doesn't get any better than that.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Do we give Joe Burrow a Hall pass because he
beat Mahomes in Kansas City to go to the super Bowl?
But after that, I mean you're looking at not getting
to the playoffs a few years, right, even performance in
the play like I don't know.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
I well, you know, he had them on the ropes
right the next year in the AFC Championship game and
they got the late hit out of Mounds on Mahomes
right where he's kind of like, oh man, it feels
like Cincinnati about to pull this off, so that happens.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Injury has been an issue.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
I think the fact that the Bengals do things dysfunctionally
does like maybe give him somewhat of a free pass
to your point there, But you know, all in all,
two years ago, they were hot late in the year
and he hurt his wrist. Injury has been his biggest
kryptonite last year. I don't know what else you can do, right,
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I mean, damn his thirty points every game. He just
going up and down the field, throwing for two hundred
and eighty yards every game, three touchdowes. He carried the
team as much as you've seen anybody carry the team.
So no, I don't think we give him a free pass.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I don't.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
Hey, we got Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all time
greats in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
They haven't even gotten to the Super Bowl yet. They
haven't even been able.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
To beat that guy Mahomes one time yet in these
damn playoff games or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So that's one to me.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
One of the cool storylines of the year is can
Lamar and Josh Allen His talent and as awesome a
quarterbacks as I've ever seen my life have yet to
be to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Could this be the year?
Speaker 10 (32:04):
I don't know, but yeah, it's pretty unreal with the
quarterbacks in the AFC, and I think Joe Burrow is
truly phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Okay, give me the team that you like. Sneaky team
that you like.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, all right, sneaky team. All right.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
So here's one that I don't think a team gets
put en up in the in the super Bowl window.
I think the Houston Texans are going to be one
of those teams this year that I'll just say that.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I know they're not sneaking up on anybody.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
As far as playoffs, well, they jumped off the bandwagon
last year, right.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
I think, And I think a lot of that had
to do with the offensive coordinator and some of the
issues there. The defense is awesome, that's not even you know, disputable.
Nico Collins was hurt a bunch last year. They lost
Stefan Diggs, their pass protection was pitiful. I think they'll
be better at receiver and I think you'll see CJ.
Stroud have more of a hand in the pass protection
(32:54):
this year. So I would put them in that super
Bowl window or they're a little rated in my opinion.
I think another the New England Patriots are of course
the other team i'd look at to go watch out.
It just seems like between that coaching staff, they one
of the teams that won the offseason where I'd go,
we are sitting here late December, going man New England.
(33:15):
If they win this week, they could go to the playoffs.
I would not be shocked by that at all. That's
one and one more I'll thought of you. The Jets
have the talent to surprise people.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Look at youth.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
People are overlooking it. But they got some talent. I
mean they do.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
And I believe in Aaron Glenn and I don't think
they're gonna make it all about the quarterback. They're gonna
run the ball, They're gonna play defense. There'll be a
pain in the butt. But I think my leader there
would probably be New England and one of those teams
that you're talking about as far as that just really
jumps out and surprises us.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I like you fired up. I gotta I gotta get
you defensive to start out.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
And when am I not fired up? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You tell me, you know, because you know your dad.
Little nepotism.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
And then yeah, hey, tell those jerks you got on
the show.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And I said, hi, alright, oh oh.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I said hi, wow, I'm fired up.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
All right, Hey, hey, Jerks. Chris Simms says, hello, thank you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
All right, Dan, always good being on.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Thanks guys, Chris Simms, Pro Football Talk Live co host.
You'll find him with Mike Florio. The show that precedes
ours and the Jerks is a little rough, all right,
a little rough.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
We were used to that now, that's kind of our relationship.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Okay, all right, let me take a break. When we
come back. Play of the Day. Seaton gives us his
review of the next two episodes of Tom Brady. The
first two episodes didn't go well for the five part series.
It is a five part series. We were wondering about
Tom's character arc in the documentary. Maybe the reviews are
(34:51):
a little better today than they were yesterday. Back after this.
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The one one and that ball hit high hen deep
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Domingos goes back watches with the rest of us.
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Has Josh Young has just.
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(36:10):
first two episodes of the Tom Brady documentary. What's the
official title of the Tom Brady Soccer documentary?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Built in Birmingham? Okay, Tom and the Blues?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The Birmingham Blues a third tier soccer team. Yeah, they
sort of.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
They spent a lot of their history going between like
the first and second tiers, between Premier League and Championship.
Have found themselves down into the third tier though for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay, so Tom is one of the new owners there,
fired everybody and didn't go well. But now getting a
little bit better. The first two episodes you talked about
Tom and maybe lack of soccer knowledge but kind of
leaning on the coaching cliche book for quotes to his
(37:00):
is organizations.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Yeah, it's just it's just an interesting look. The show
is really good. It's a fun watch, but that you know,
like I say yesterday, that formula is sort of undefeated,
of like go in, get a team, learn the people,
try to rebuild it kind of thing that'll work across
any sport, right, Okay, But what was surprising was just
sort of the view of Tom that he was allowing
you to see, where he was kind of like, Yeah,
(37:24):
it doesn't really matter that I don't know anything because
I know winning, Like, oh, who's Aston Villa? Who cares
if we're in the same town, we're better than them, Like, dude,
they're like a Champions League caliber.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Team, Like what are you talking about? How do you
not know that?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Especially just as a businessman, Right, So he kind of
has this air of like, doesn't matter because I know
winning because I came from nothing and look at me,
I'm the greatest ever. So it doesn't matter I win.
That's just what I do.
Speaker 10 (37:46):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
This first two episodes were heavy on that heavy. This
second two were great because it was way less of
Tom and his business side of things and more about
the actual people. Like here's a player who they just
signed for big money, whose father was a professional player
but died when he was young, and like, now you're
getting like the real storylines there. And Tom would uh.
(38:11):
Usually he checks in either from a private jet is
he's flying somewhere, or from some amazing mansion somewhere in
the world where he's catching up on the game on
his iPad, but there's like a Teaki hut behind him
and he's like, yeah, oh yeah, I'm really invested in this.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, But the coach doesn't really understand the whole Tom
Brady Aura.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
There's no not really. He knows that he's great. He
knows that in the game that he played, he's really great.
There are a lot of moments where you can see
like Tom will be like, you know, I remember when
Bill Belichick first said to me, and it just flies
right over everybody's head, and he's like, he's a coach,
He's like one of the best coaches of all time
in the NFL anyway, and he sort of goes on,
there's a moment with the where the coach is doing
(38:55):
an interview like one of those like two camera interviews,
and he's like, yeah, you know, Tom, I'm really lucky
to have a guy like Tom giving me so much advice,
one of the greatest athletes in the world. And he
sent me a video from a coach, Nick Saban. Nick Sabon,
he uh has an interesting coaching philosophy. I appreciate Tom
(39:19):
sharing that with me, and then you hear there's Tom again.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Tom just sent me another.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
Nick Nick Saban is a coach in America, very famous.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Paul in Chicago. Hi Paul, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (39:38):
Hey Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Uh? Yeah, thanks, guys.
I watched last night because Seton was was talking about
it yesterday, and I'm loving it. Seaton, I don't know
if I agree with what you were saying, like the
bar scene you were describing, like I didn't see him
(40:00):
ever say like how much time do I have to
spend with them, like saying them would have come off bad.
I agree, but he really just said, like, Paul On,
are week here or something like that, And then I
just got to the Beckham scene when Brady's in the
limo and he said, you know, it's that thing stupid
not to give Beckham a kit or something like that,
and then described like, hey, he has energy. He feels
(40:23):
like he was treated well, he's gonna go home and
root for the team and publicize or whatever. So I
don't know, I just I look at this like I'm
loving it. I think the Brady message he's said shits
like those like little ignorant moments are kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
He's just he's just.
Speaker 9 (40:39):
Saying, like, guys, I am great, I am going. He's like,
good talent can win you games, but sustained greatness is
like systemic, it's up process as leadership. It's the New
England Patriots. Like I get all that, and that's what
he's gonna come off.
Speaker 10 (40:55):
Like.
Speaker 9 (40:55):
I think the only way he'll look stupid in this.
Tell me if you guys disagree, is if the team
ends up failing and is not good, you know.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well, yeah they headed in that direction, maybe they're headed back. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
See yeah, I mean in the first season that Tom
was the owner, he got them relegated because of his decisions,
so that would be an instance of failing. Although they
fly through it and it's only one episode, but it's
actually a full year of soccer or close to anyway.
But now I agree with everything that that person just said.
I love it. I think it's great. It's just an
interesting look from him.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's one hour two more to go. Sterling Sharp will
join us see Packer's Hall of Famer a little later
on more of your phone calls as well. Hour two
on the way after this
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