August 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan talks a few stories about NFL training camp, including the new ban on teams using smelling salts. But Dan focuses the first hour replying to ESPN’s Don Van Natta Jr., who said he was “embarrassed” for Dan for pointing out a potential conflict of interest between ESPN and the NFL.
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football coming up tonight, and you have the Colts and
the Ravens, the Bengals and the Seahawks, and I think
one other game coming up tonight Bengals Eagles and then
the Raiders and the Seahawks. So three games coming up
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tonight and we get to start judging quarterback the preseason.
I'm already seeing articles about, oh are the brown setting
Shador Sanders up to fail as he opens up his
NFL career on Friday night against Carolina. And I was
trying to understand the logic behind this, because he hasn't
been taking reps as the first string quarterback. He's been
(01:20):
with second and third teamers. Well, now he's going to
be there with the first teamers against Carolina. I don't
know how that sets him up to fail. Now you're
with more talented players, players that you might have on
your team when you're the starting quarterback at some point
during the NFL season. But we're already you know, it's
(01:41):
already shifting towards Eh, what happens if you know he
doesn't do well in the first game. I think they're
making him, not making him. They're having him start because
everybody else is injured. I don't know if that's setting
him up for failure. You need somebody to play quarterback.
I don't think Teddy Bridgewater's ready to play. It's a
great opportunity for Shirdo or Sanders. I hope he does
(02:03):
well and you get to play with the first team
and maybe take some first team reps today and get
ready for Friday night's game against Carolina. But I don't
think he's being set up to fail. Not giving him
a chance to play would be setting him up to fail.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If he can play, hopefully he'll showcase that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Coming up on Friday night, we'll explore some of the
other football matchups and battles going on in preseason. Our
good buddy, Ross Tucker will stop by eight seven to
seven to three. DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle the DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll
take your phone calls. By the way, we did talk
(02:42):
about the smelling salt. Is it a smelling saltgate that
we elect to throw gate? We attach that to a
lot of different things. When there's a controversy. The NFL
is saying you can't use smelling salts on the sidelines.
You can bring your own, but they want to take
away the liability I believe of smelling salts, and they're
(03:03):
worried about what it does. If you've had a concussion
and somebody gives you a smelling salt and it might
wake you up to be able to go back out
there and play. But it's bring your own smelling salts
to the sidelines. Yes, Ton, it didn't pass the smell
test for the NFL using four minutes in. I'll give
you a bloop. Yes, Paulie, I.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Didn't realize how many players used them over the past
twenty four hours. It's become a story. So now every
local reporter is asking players about it, like different players.
There's a player for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It says
I use them before every single defensive drive. They're commonplace.
You just don't catch them on TV that much, but
they're very commonplace.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Weightlifters use these before a big lift. They'll take a
hit and then all of a sudden, it's like and
then you go. But I was wondering about this that,
you know, are they readily available that you can get
smelling salts where? I'm not sure. I guess you can
order them. But are they worried about kids using them?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
As it?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Is it going to trickle down to you know, Pop Warner.
I'm not sure, but it feels like the NFL is saying,
where you want to remove any liability here, if you
want to take it, you bring your own.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yes, Ston, is this something we should be incorporating into
the morning routine around here?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I told Dylan to see if he could order some.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Just I don't know if you guys have ever experienced
smelling salts. Ooo, Yes, that's going to be the feeling,
that's going to be the look, the sound of it.
It is going to you know, there's that Bows speaker
commercial where the speakers are on and the guy's hair
(04:45):
is blown back and his face is blown back, and
sort of the feeling you get when you do smelling salts.
I remember doing them in high school playing football, for
my limited experience of freshman football in high school for
the Mason Commets.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But you would take a hit that and it's like
whow yes, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
A lot of people are speculating that the FDA caused this.
The FDA did a report just about a year ago
that said different types of these inhaling ammonia products can
lead to coughing, airway restriction, eye and those irritation and
long term effects on your breathing, seizure's, migraine, et cetera,
et cetera. And so the NFL just got this report
last year right before the season. Maybe that's what caused
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the trickle.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Down the front.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Okay, yeah, it kind of came out of nowhere. But
having used it a couple of times. I didn't like it,
but it wasn't for a concussion. I think it was
just getting ready for contact with an Oklahoma drill that
we were going to do.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Playing high school of football. Oklahoma drill. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I love the Oklahoma drill where you're lying on your
back and then the other guys lying on your back
and they go and then you jump up and then
you run into each other.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They called it the Oklahoma drill.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, that was the good old days. That's what That's
the way we used to do it, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So when you play grade school football and you stink
like I did, you'd be in line for the Oklahoma drill,
and you'd look across and if you saw Richie Alcott
number fifty one, and you went back in line a
couple spots because you didn't not want to get.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Cooked by Richie.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You didn't want somebody wearing Dick Butkus's number. Oh no,
number fifty one. All right, we'll get to a poll
question today. I do want to mention there was a
topic yesterday we spent a lot of time, maybe too
much time, it talked about the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Was buying ten percent of ESPN.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
There's a merger between NFL Network and ESPN, and the
point that I made and want to continue to make,
there is a conflict of interest. I think we can
all agree to that now if you don't care about it,
and maybe you don't, but for me, I worry about that.
But you know, this is the old school in me
(06:55):
that you know with ESPN and having been there eighteen years,
and I'm mention that, you know, are they going to
have journalism?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Are they going to cover the NFL?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And I didn't mention any names, but there was one
person at the mothership, Don Van Nada, who is a
senior writer who's been on the show. I think last
time he was on five years ago to talk about
deep dive he did on the Decision with Lebron James,
and he's been on the show a couple of times.
He's a very good journalist. He took it personally when
(07:27):
I was saying I don't know if they did a
deep dive on the NFL Players Association mess and once again,
this is live radio and I'm saying I don't know.
So I'm not making a declarative statement. I'm just saying
I don't know. Well, Don Van Nada took it personally
that I don't go to ESPN dot com and read
(07:47):
his articles. I don't go to ESPN dot com. Okay,
I don't. If there's an article, the dan nets will
bring it to my attention. Hey, this is I did
it out of principle when I left ESPN, like I'm
going to put ESPN in my rear view mirror, and
I really it's not part of my morning or routine
(08:08):
of going there. So I missed that Don was doing
an expose on the NFL Players Association, and by all accounts,
did a great job. Now I did know that Mike
Florio and Pablo Torre were doing things and they added
to the story collusion story.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
They sent the stories to us.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We had them on, we had JC treder On, who
was second in command at the NFLPA. It's not a
story that you know we were staying away from. But
Don Benatta said that he was embarrassed for me because
I didn't know that he is the one who had
the story initially. I don't know if they promoted you correctly. Don,
(08:47):
to be honest with you, I don't know if you
were on first take. I don't know if you're on
NFL Live. I don't know if you're on Get Up.
I know that Pablo Torre and Mike Flora Mike Florio
were there front and center moting this and got a
lot of attention here. So I apologize for that that
I didn't know that you were the person, the originator
(09:07):
of this story there to say you're embarrassed for me
because I didn't see the article. I said that out loud.
I don't know if you guys did a deep dive
and I wasn't talking about you.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You made it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Personal about me, and you know about being a journalist,
I said at the point, I didn't know. And also,
you know, when you when you start, you started out
that way, you miss what the real point was is
is is there a conflict of interest? Like that's the
(09:43):
discussion here not I missed that you did something on
the and by the way, it's not on the NFL.
Your expose was on the NFL Players Association. There's a
big difference in that. So we've reached out to Don
if he wants to join us, great. You may not
even care about this, but when you say you're embarrassed
for me, and then you know you want to show
me your resume, and I'll show you mine, and you
(10:06):
know we can have a private conversation here. But if
you call me out, you're embarrassed. Imagine if you did this,
you did your article live, because that's what I do
every day. I write columns every single day for three hours.
And sometimes you make mistakes. And you know by saying
that there's not an investigative arm inside ESPN, that's on me.
(10:30):
I made a mistake. I know where your office is
and you know it's been scaled down greatly. I hope
you continue to fight the good fight. Don I hope
you and your staff fight the good fight. But now
is when you're judged. From here on out, is when
you're judged. Covering the NFL not what you did before.
Have you like me saying I'm not any good at this,
(10:51):
but man, was I good at SportsCenter? No one cares.
It's about today and tomorrow in the next day. Covering
the NFL Player Association is a whole lot different than
covering the NFL, and you have to admit, which you didn't.
It's a conflict of interest. The perception is a conflict
of interest, and that was the point that I was
(11:13):
trying to make there.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wish you well, but if.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You want to have a conversation on the show or privately,
i'd love to. I have nothing against you. You're the
one that made it personal. And thank you all the
people on social media who stood up for me and
sent me the article. And I got way too many
articles sent to me. Very happy, But I hope to
(11:39):
restore my journalistic credentials here this entire show. I got
three hours to do it, and perhaps I'll do that.
But there's a reason why the commissioner of the NFL
has not been on this show for over a decade.
Because I ask good questions. I asked the right questions.
I ask questions that can be uncomfortable. We take pride
(12:01):
in what we do and how we do it. And
because I offhandedly said I'm wondering because I didn't read
your expose, I'm going to renew my ESPN dot com
subscription poem.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Nineteen ninety nine a year. I'm special. Is that what
it is to get you a former employee rate? Yeah?
But this is another thing. I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
They have analytics that say, hey, we're covering this and
this and this and this and this. Don is in
the buzzkill business. His job is to find the negative
side of things. I mean, he's trying to find the
CD under belly here. And I don't know if get
up and first take and some of these other shows go, hey,
come on down, let's spend ten minutes talking about this.
(12:45):
And you know it's unfortunate, but I've been there. I
was there for a long time. A lot of people
who were great journalists no longer work there, and you're
you're alone in the corner there, Don, And I hope
that they add instead of subtracting there. I think that's
really important to cover the NFL, not just the NFLPA.
(13:09):
All right, well, take a break. We'll settle on a
poll question here eight seven to seven three DP show.
We're back after this.
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Preseason football All Tonight, I'm Ready, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders,
and the Seahawks. Mary kay Cabot covers the Cleveland Browns,
talking about how the Browns are handling Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
I do think that they are doing this the right
way with him and making sure that he is successful
as he comes up the learning curve, and they're flying
in the face of what everybody wants them to do.
But they have stuck to their guns and they're not
the coumbing to media pressure and public pressure and fan pressure.
They're not doing that. They're doing what's right for shoud Door,
(14:37):
and people have to understand that they're doing what's right
for the football team and for shaud Door.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's courtesy of ninety two point three the Fan in
Cleveland and Mary kay Cabot's been covering the Cleveland Browns
for decades, and she's right, this is the opportunity you want,
not Hey, you got to ease him into this. Should
or Sanders comes in full of confidence, ready to go.
We've been told he's ready to go. My source with
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the brown says he's ready to go. He understands concepts,
he's getting along with teammates. There's maturity there. There's also
a sense of Hey, I know my place here. But
because of the injuries, he's going to get a chance
to play against Carolina. What if he didn't get a
chance to play then, what would the outcry be? Ah,
(15:24):
Now they're setting him up to fail. Make up your
mind if I'm shudor give me a chance. You got
a chance. And I still believe at some point during
this season he'll be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland
Browns eight seven to seven to three DP show email
address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. By
(15:45):
the way, I did spend some time in the first
segment of the show. I talked about ESPN conflict of interest,
the appearance of a conflict of interest with the NFL
buying ten percent of ESPN, and I questioned some of
the journalistic practices of ESPN and how important it is
to be covering the NFL. How will you cover the NFL?
(16:08):
Don Van Natta is a great investigative reporter who works there.
He took it personally, and we did reach out to
Dawn to see if he wanted to join us. He
said he was busy this morning but told Fritzy to
give me my best.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
What does that mean? It's very thoughtful.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, after saying I'm embarrassed for you that you're gonna
give give Dan my best?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Is that like, give him your best because you're gonna
need it because civil I am just so embarrassed. I
I don't know, give Dan my best shot. Sorry, I'm busy. Yeah,
oh what they don't have phones where you.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
Are for.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
This isn't personal. It shouldn't be personal. He made it personal.
I don't want to make it personal. He's very good
at what he does. I don't know if ESPN really
publicizes what he does and showcases him and puts him
on the big shows. So I'm kind of fighting his
fight inside while he's fighting me and not addressing the
(17:09):
perception perceived conflict of interest with ESPN. That's it, But
you can't tell me. Look at what I did with
the NFL Players Association, that's not the NFL. And those
are the points that I'm trying to make, Yes, Paul, it's.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Really tough to get investigative stories out there. It could
be ESPN, Fox, NBC, any sports network. They don't really
like to do deep dives on TV. There's not the
room for it. Producers don't want to do it because
it's a bogged down topic with a lot of details,
and so a lot of these stories don't get play
a show like Pablo Tory. His is a podcast that
(17:45):
you choose to participate, but you.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Know he's going to do an investigative report.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, and you choose to listen to it or watch
it on your own time.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Which really sucks though, because the work that investigator journalists
do is obviously important, but it is usually way more
interesting than watching like, hey, we got two Sports Center
hosts going kayaking this morning, let's check it out. Like
that's actually not why I watched Sports Center is to
see the host kayaking together.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I really don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It feels like journalism is going to skip a generation.
It does, and that's that's sad because we took great
pride in the stories that we covered when I worked
at ESPN, when I worked with Bob Lee, when I
worked with Keith Oberman, we took great pride in that.
But the person who really built Sports Center, John Walsh.
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He was bringing in writers, guys who could do investigative work,
and it just it's content now. I mean, I have
to get over the fact that ESPN is never going
to be my ESPN.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Now you go back to your old neighborhood, doesn't look
the same, but it's still my old neighborhood. And I
once again, I hope that don when John ben Natt
has had expose's for the most part we've had him on,
I don't shy away from it, and I hope that
he gets the opportunity to continue.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
To do these stories.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
My point was, there is a perception of and it's
been there before. Now it's not perceived now you're in
business with the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
That was the point I was trying to make.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And because I off handedly said I don't know if
they did a deep dive on the NFL Players Association,
that's where he was ashamed of me as a journalist.
But I'll go back to what I said. It was
a throwing it out there. We do a live show.
Let me see you do a live column. We'll follow
along with you as you do a live column. Let
(19:45):
me see if you make any mistakes. But good luck
with that. You took your shot. We can move on
if you want to join us on the show. Great,
all right, pole question today set. No, it's not about him.
(20:05):
It's not about him. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You don't care. Why you're talking about it so much? Well,
let me talk about the cowboys. Ye really, you don't care?
She sounds like you can't. That's my Internet voice for today.
Oh really, Oh you don't care? I care? I care.
I just don't want to care. We're supposed to talk
about the cowboys. No, you're talking about the cowboys. I
don't want.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't want to care anymore. I haven't been there
for eighteen years. I don't want to care anymore.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Which somebody once described radio as it's like one step
above rodeo clown, which I don't really disagree with. I
gotta admit it's it's pretty fair. And the I just
saw from a good friend of ours that the is sad. Okay,
and this is meant as a joke. Okay, So don't
(20:57):
everybody get upset. What But the invest degative journalist is
essentially one step above the website onmbudsman, which, yeah, that's
about the level of respect that you're getting these days.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's like, oh, really, we don't care. What have you
ever heard of the on budsmen?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I know, yeah, dude, nobody cares about that correction.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And we had an on budsman at the Mothership. I remember,
I like, what does he do? And nobody could really
tell me what he was doing. He kind of over
would oversee what we were writing because we did write everything.
The journalist in me was writing everything every night on
Sports Center. But the onmbudsman, Yes, Paulie, it's a very
(21:37):
unique role.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's supposed to be completely autonomous. It's mostly at newspapers,
the on budsmen. Yeah, and they can investigate whatever they want,
they could critique whatever they want.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, it's just the days of investigative reporting, unfortunately, are
slowly slipping away.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, paul and we've.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Talked about this before, but it's a lot of it's
analytics based. It's what the audience wants, they give you
more of. It's like a restaurant. And so these different
shows on different networks, they do a segment about the
NFLPA and people will tune out, and then they're like, well,
we're not doing NFLPA again. It becomes a cycle. And
then if you tune into because should or Sanders got
(22:15):
in a car wreck or got busted for speeding, they're
going to talk more about should or Sanders.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
If you're flipping through and you see, oh my god,
they're talking about Michael Parsons, Shadoor Sanders, whatever, or the
NFL Player Association, you're going to the other ones.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You're not going to go to that.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But also it's how your network promotes this and you know,
gives you the platform. That's really the important part. We
don't deal with analytics. Maybe we should, I don't know,
but I want to come in and talk about what
I want to talk about. I don't want to come
in and have somebody say, here's the analytics. You have
to talk about this these three four things. And there
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are shows that are really successful doing that. I just
that's not why I want to continue to do this.
It's fun to be able to come in and talk
about what you want to come in and talk about.
And it's not scripted, and we don't have a boss
who's telling us these things. But when there are times
to do a deep dive on something or it's something
that's uncomfortable, you know, there is a scandal, you we
(23:17):
don't shy away from it. It's not like I go, oh, boy,
people are going to tune out. I hope that you
trust me when I'm telling you about something that it
is important.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And here's why. Yeah, we go fast.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Forward to like nine months from now when investigative journalists
are choosing to quit their jobs because peace that they
wrote on the NFL got killed. Well, I mean, you've
been criticized before in the past for having some news
stories or breaking some news that people are.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Like, what are you crazy? That's the dumbest thing I've
ever heard.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
And then nine months later they released their own hey
version of just broke this story.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Happened with college football when college football was being canceled
and the journalist in me was breaking stories, and boy,
they were not pleased and talking hairdoo breaking stories. First
of all, they all have contracts, so yeah, and then
they eventually came out and kind of apologized, I'm over it,
Jake and Buffalo. Hi Jake, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Hi Jake?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Hey Dan. I think this issued this little fight with
Don Bannantta sort of reinforces the point of how little
coverage the story is getting. It's a massive skip. The
biggest sport in the country, the worldwide leader, has exactly
one person trying to bring attention to it. Seems like
if it was something else, there would be a lot
(24:40):
more attention. They quick start to the ESPN website. There's
like one clip in the last month giving this attention.
I just don't understand. I think it's sort of reinforces
the point you may have overlooked it because it's not
getting the attention it deserves.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, and I missed it. I don't go to ESPN
dot com. But I did hear Florio, and I did
hear Pablo Torelo. Well, he called us. He called Paulie
and said, hey, you want me to talk about this.
Florio does this show that precedes hours? I was able
to see these things if Don was on with the
other shows, if he was on first take and I
(25:12):
missed it, then that's on me. But just because I
said I don't know what kind of deep dive and
I didn't see your report, that doesn't make me less
of a journalist. It makes me say, I wonder, I
don't know what kind of you know, publicity expose you
did on the NFLPA all right, I found out, Okay,
(25:33):
I did find out.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
We did cover it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
See, Well, the goodness is that while ESPN might not
be covering it a ton, you can go to another
network that's not in bed with the NFL and they're
covering it heavily. Yeah, that's the sarcasm fund right there,
because nobody is covering it because everybody's in bed with
the NFL. We're all completely you know, captive by like
(25:57):
we have to cover the NFL constantly.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yes, it's becoming the norm.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
There's a Wall Street journal piece that came out this
morning that is part of this new restructuring deal with
the NFL network. The NFL is also going to have
a ten percent partnership stake with CBS. I know, so
it's not just limited to ESPN.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah no, but this is you know, CBS is on
all it's not omnipresent.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
ESPN is on all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And they got all these NFL shows. You got to
fill those things up. I mean, there's only so many
times when you could say, let's talk about Dak's legacy.
You know, there's other things, and hopefully there's room for
these stories. Hopefully they cover these stories. Hopefully they don't
kill or you know, look the other way with these stories.
Gary and Iowa. Hi, Gary, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (26:45):
You're more in Dan.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
Thank you for the callback.
Speaker 11 (26:48):
Yep, so the smelly sauce you can ready to get
off Amazon. I ordered a box yesterday. They should be
here tomorrow. My wife asked me, why.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Do you need them?
Speaker 13 (26:58):
Gary?
Speaker 11 (27:00):
But my wife asked me that, and I would therefore,
and I told her, well, I'll open up your sinuses,
so we'll see all that goes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh boy, okay, you know what I would do, Blow
my nose, Gary, That's how I'd open up my sinuses. Yes,
how about we just blow our nose? That would that
would help? What else do you have for me?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Gary?
Speaker 11 (27:19):
Well, don from the ownership, I think it's pretty weak.
He wants to call you out and say you should
be embarrassed, But yet it's pretty embarrassing for him. He
don't want to appear on your show for five minutes
and detained himself and.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
He might be busy Gary, you know, short notice.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
But I read this this morning and then I came
in and I said to Fritzy, invite don ben Nana.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I don't have anything against the guy. Just let's just
say it. It's fine if you.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But you're embarrassed for me. Okay, now now we have
a conversation here. You know, maybe you regret sending that
or using you know that word, but.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I wouldn't put those words in his mouth. Yeah, you're
my bad. I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, No, I won't. Maybe maybe it's like he wanted
to say something stronger than that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Okay, we're done, aren't we.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Billy and Nashville, Hi, Billy, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (28:13):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (28:13):
Good morning. I just wanted to remind it remind you
that Dan van Nada, he did do a pretty hard
hit on the NFL in conjunction with Seth Wickersham. If
you'll remember all the reporting that came out on Dan
Snyder that certainly shook up the league a little bit
and had a lot of ownership with that.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He does a great job that that was not the point.
Nobody's I'm not I'm not addressing his credentials, Billy. I.
We we talked about this yesterday before the show even started.
We we named Paully mentioning my name. It's not it
has nothing to do with his credentials. It's he's embarrassed
because I didn't realize that he broke this story about
(28:51):
the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
About the This is a bigger story than Don Van Nada.
And it's not about let me show you my resume
and I'll show you your resume and we'll talk about it.
That's not what this is. He does a very good job.
I'm not here to critique anything about that. He critiqued
me that I'm not a journalist, and he was, you know,
(29:14):
embarrassed for me. Okay, that's a little bit different there.
But yeah, Grady did a great job on Dan Snyder. Congratulations.
That's your job, hey, great job being an investigative reporter.
That's your job, being an investigative reporter. Oh boy, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Want some good news?
Speaker 14 (29:42):
Yeah, sure, Lee Corso ninety today you.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Have a second source that's correct, Yes, thank you?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Oh is that the only birthday today, other birthdays too,
Why only pub tours?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Anyways, a handshake agreement, you know binding?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh, you want to bring it back to the cowboy
handshake agreement. Back in my day, we did a handshake agreement.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I can't the agent b present, what's the problem. He
could look in the eye.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Back in my day, I would cut my finger and
then you would have cut your finger, and then we
would put our fingers together and we were we flipped
the coin and wet those fingers. Yes, Marvin, that's the
way it was back in the day. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I sent a note to a lawyer yesterday. I hesitate
to bring this up to a trial lawyer. This guy's
like a big time guy. And I said, what a
handshake agreement hold up in court? And he says, there
are situations where it can. Now, I know this is
different than the contract and stuff like this, But if
like two parties make a verbal handshake agreement that the
shaking of the hands does nothing, but a verbal conversation
(30:52):
between two parties can be admissible in court.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
But he's already breaking a rule, yes, by negotiating with
his player.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, Jerry Jones are breaking a lot of rules.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
You're not allowed to do that now, So let's not
get lost in the Hey, we had a verbal agreement
or a handshake, you're not allowed to be negotiating with
him to get that verbal agree.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The CBA has language that the representative for the player
should be present during these negotiations.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yes, Todd, And I.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Would think someone would have to have witnessed that conversation
or that handshake, because then if he said he said,
I didn't take his hand, I don't know what he's
talking about there, I'd have to have been a third
party to confirm it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Thank you to you.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Welcome Jeremy and Cincinnati. Hi Jeremy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (31:34):
What question for you?
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Dan?
Speaker 15 (31:36):
Along the Micah Parsons line, And then I have a
poll question if if we have time, Okay, So I
teach maths and so we have to do a couple
of problems yesterday, and so we were using Micah Parsons
as an example, and this, I know goes against everything
everyone is saying. So he's twenty six right now, and
everyone's pushing to get the deal done early. But if
you look from Jerry's point of view, if he drags
it out through this year and painting whatever, you know,
(31:58):
eight less than what he would be making then franchise
tagging next year. Yeah, he's only negotiating one more contract
when he's twenty eight twenty nine, where Trey Hendrix is
now where you're kind of on that bubble and this
and that. If he does it early at twenty six,
Mike is going to be pushing at the end of
twenty beginning of twenty nine for another contract bump up.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think we talked about that a little bit yesterday
or the day before about if Jerry wants to make
this a little more uncomfortable with Michaeh Parsons and thanks
for the phone call. I just don't think he does,
because you have the entire team on Micah's side, and
I think probably most of America football fan wise on
Micah's side with this that Jerry's saying, Hey, we weren't
(32:40):
supposed to be talking, but we talked and we had
an agreement there. It doesn't work that way. It can't
work that way. That's why you have certified agents with
the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, PAULI, this goes.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Back to the bigger, overall arching problem. If I were
a Cowboys fan. I would want a general manager, a
dispassionate person who gets contract done and isn't trying to
be in front of a microphone every week.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's the bigger, bigger problem. Yeah, but he loves being
the god.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
You can do all that and hire a business head
to run be the GM.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
But he wants to be in there with the conversation
with me. And I sat down with Micah and I
looked at him in the eye and I said, y'all
want you to be a leader, and here's the deal,
and you're gonna agree to it right here, shake my hand, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Why do you sound like Leonardo DiCaprio and Jangle unchanged?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I want you to sho.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I apologize for that, Jerry, I'm not inspired by Leo's
character there.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Wow, but also sorry not to cut you off, but
to cut you off again. Jerry thinks he's a football guy.
He thinks to himself, I have I have three Super
Bowl rings as a general manager. Even though he didn't
put the team together. Jimmy did. But in his head
he's like, no, no, I'm a football guy. I know football,
So let me just keep doing this.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Tom in Atlanta, Hi, Tom, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16 (34:00):
Hey Dan, thanks for calling you know this. I feel
embarrassed for you saying is it's it's such a passive aggressive,
backhanded kind of insult that I'll be using in the
office today. Hey Jim that lunch order. I feel embarrassed
for you.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
All the best? Thank you, Tom, Yes, give Dan my best.
I'm embarrassed for me at best?
Speaker 11 (34:25):
What right?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Hook?
Speaker 11 (34:27):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Tom, I don't know if that's the perfect example of
passive aggressive. That's pretty aggressive.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm very clear what the person is saying is questioning
your journalism.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I don't know what's the confusing.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And you know passive aggressive, Yes, you do, pressive aggressive.
Nobody ever talks about somebody who's aggressive aggressive. It's just
passive aggressive. So that's just an aggressive aggressive. How about
we take a break here? All right, let's all collude
and take a break here.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
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Speaker 1 (34:57):
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Speaker 2 (35:10):
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Speaker 3 (35:15):
Play This is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
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Speaker 10 (35:20):
Schneider gives one a ride to center field back, looking
up and watching it go. David Schnyder with another bomb.
His second homer of the ballgame is a three run shot.
It travels four hundred and fifty four feet and the
Blue Jays now lead nineteen to one.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Davis Schneider had three of Toronto's twenty four hits in
Toronto's twenty to one.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Win over the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
In the series, Toronto had sixty three hits. That's the
most by a baseball team in baseball history. The Rockies
now thirty and eighty four. By the way, the run
differential between the Rockies and their opponents minus three hundred
and sixteen.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh, I have to go back to nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
The Boston Rustlers had a worst run differential. That's the
that's the team that had a worst run differential through
this many games than.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Colorado Rustler's an embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Boston Rustlers. I'm embarrassed by their performance back then in
nineteen eleven.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's okay.
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Jason and Tampa, Hi, Jas, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (37:00):
KBP just wanted to let you know you got a
little bit of Jerry Jones going on from.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
That guy that writes the articles FORESPN. He's losing relevancy,
he's losing everything.
Speaker 11 (37:09):
And that was a forty five minute spread you just
gave him for the last hour.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's an interesting topic of journalism in society, so it's
not about him.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
But thanks for the phone call.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
And I don't think he was saying what he said
to me to get publicity.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
He wanted to.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Give his side of the story of me saying don't
you realize that there is journalism at ESPN? And I
did write this article, and I didn't see the article.
It wasn't showcased by ESPN. But I didn't make it personal.
I couldn't care less. I hope he does his job.
I hope he gets the opportunity to do his job. Yes, yeah,
(37:54):
you're sort of doing the equivalent of you know, like
when somebody is like talking tracks about you all this, yeah,
and you're.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Like, who.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
No, I never even heard of them? No, I know
you're like, sorry, I just I didn't even know you
wrote that. I didn't know we wrote the article.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Kind of the.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Equivalent of like, sorry, I don't even know who that is.
It's the promotion of the article by ESPN. Correct, that
was it. I just didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Good And that's passive aggressive. Thank you, Todd. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Todd Brett in South Dakota, Hi Brett, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Ep T shirt idea not a journalist. I'll be the
first to buy.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Thank you, or just I'm embarrassed for you. You could
do that as a T shirt.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
It is tough though, to be like like, hey, journalism
is dead. Over there a company of like five thousand people,
and one guy is like, not so fast.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
All right, we're done with this. I'm done. I'm done
with it. Yes, I got another two hours.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Poor Todd over there being definitely quiet because he has
to deal with ESPN to book guests every week.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
What do you want to have about to.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
Average?
Speaker 17 (39:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You want sky that December ninth o'clock.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
You know, I actually think concussions are good for players.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's spinning thing Turbo in Buffalo, Hi Turbo, Hey Dan.
Speaker 17 (39:31):
I give you my best thanks. I have a stat
of the day, but I'm not sure it's the stats
something I just thought about a couple of days ago
and I wanted to call him. By. By the way,
I have a minor in journalism, and Polly mentioned earlier
the phrase I'm buzzing. You remember this one where they would
say watch dogs, you're supposed to be a watchdog?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah? Yeah, you remember that?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 17 (39:55):
Okay, and all right, before I get to my stair
of the day, there's two guests, because I you're bouncing
in a couple of years, two guests that you have
to have on one obviously Jenny Batchie. The second one
is Corbyn from Fritzy's camp.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
We've been trying to track down Corbin. There's a picture
of Fritzy when he's I don't know, youth camp counselor,
and Fritzy and Corbin have their shirts off and their
nipples are touching, and I was like, what is going
on with that picture?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
A photobomb?
Speaker 7 (40:27):
I just wanted to kind of pose by myself and
he just kind of snuggled up in his tank top
next to me.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yes, yes, Paulling the IT team has a brief update.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
We were able to locate and connect with Corbyn a
couple of years ago, but the response wasn't what the
Iteam was looking for. We protect the source, and so
we're in negotiations long term.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
And I don't want to disrupt Jenny Batchi's life any
more than I did fifty years ago. You know it
was fleeting. She disrupted mine, I will say, but I
don't want to do that to her. She's happily married,
she's children and grandchildren.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
I'm not really surprised that, given the way we've covered
the Corbin story, that he's not interested in coming on.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I gotta admit I don't know that. That's a lovely
lime green tank top.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
That wasn't interesting if only there was an investigative journalist
who could.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Track him down. All right, we're done with that. We're
done with that. Oh I just see what you did.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
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football coming up tonight, and you have the Colts and
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the Raiders and the Seahawks. So three games coming up
(00:57):
tonight and we get to start judging quarterback the preseason.
I'm already seeing articles about, oh are the brown setting
Shador Sanders up to fail as he opens up his
NFL career on Friday night against Carolina. And I was
trying to understand the logic behind this, because he hasn't
been taking reps as the first string quarterback. He's been
(01:20):
with second and third teamers. Well, now he's going to
be there with the first teamers against Carolina. I don't
know how that sets him up to fail. Now you're
with more talented players, players that you might have on
your team when you're the starting quarterback at some point
during the NFL season. But we're already you know, it's
(01:41):
already shifting towards Eh, what happens if you know he
doesn't do well in the first game. I think they're
making him, not making him. They're having him start because
everybody else is injured. I don't know if that's setting
him up for failure. You need somebody to play quarterback.
I don't think Teddy Bridgewater's ready to play. It's a
great opportunity for Shirdo or Sanders. I hope he does
(02:03):
well and you get to play with the first team
and maybe take some first team reps today and get
ready for Friday night's game against Carolina. But I don't
think he's being set up to fail. Not giving him
a chance to play would be setting him up to fail.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If he can play, hopefully he'll showcase that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Coming up on Friday night, we'll explore some of the
other football matchups and battles going on in preseason. Our
good buddy, Ross Tucker will stop by eight seven to
seven to three. DP Show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle the DP show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll
take your phone calls. By the way, we did talk
(02:42):
about the smelling salt. Is it a smelling saltgate that
we elect to throw gate? We attach that to a
lot of different things. When there's a controversy. The NFL
is saying you can't use smelling salts on the sidelines.
You can bring your own, but they want to take
away the liability I believe of smelling salts, and they're
(03:03):
worried about what it does. If you've had a concussion
and somebody gives you a smelling salt and it might
wake you up to be able to go back out
there and play. But it's bring your own smelling salts
to the sidelines. Yes, Ton, it didn't pass the smell
test for the NFL using four minutes in. I'll give
you a bloop. Yes, Paulie, I.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Didn't realize how many players used them over the past
twenty four hours. It's become a story. So now every
local reporter is asking players about it, like different players.
There's a player for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It says
I use them before every single defensive drive. They're commonplace.
You just don't catch them on TV that much, but
they're very commonplace.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Weightlifters use these before a big lift. They'll take a
hit and then all of a sudden, it's like and
then you go. But I was wondering about this that,
you know, are they readily available that you can get
smelling salts where? I'm not sure. I guess you can
order them. But are they worried about kids using them?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
As it?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Is it going to trickle down to you know, Pop Warner.
I'm not sure, but it feels like the NFL is saying,
where you want to remove any liability here, if you
want to take it, you bring your own.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Yes, Ston, is this something we should be incorporating into
the morning routine around here?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I told Dylan to see if he could order some.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Just I don't know if you guys have ever experienced
smelling salts. Ooo, Yes, that's going to be the feeling,
that's going to be the look, the sound of it.
It is going to you know, there's that Bows speaker
commercial where the speakers are on and the guy's hair
(04:45):
is blown back and his face is blown back, and
sort of the feeling you get when you do smelling salts.
I remember doing them in high school playing football, for
my limited experience of freshman football in high school for
the Mason Commets.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But you would take a hit that and it's like
whow yes, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
A lot of people are speculating that the FDA caused this.
The FDA did a report just about a year ago
that said different types of these inhaling ammonia products can
lead to coughing, airway restriction, eye and those irritation and
long term effects on your breathing, seizure's, migraine, et cetera,
et cetera. And so the NFL just got this report
last year right before the season. Maybe that's what caused
(05:25):
the trickle.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Down the front.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Okay, yeah, it kind of came out of nowhere. But
having used it a couple of times. I didn't like it,
but it wasn't for a concussion. I think it was
just getting ready for contact with an Oklahoma drill that
we were going to do.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Playing high school of football. Oklahoma drill. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I love the Oklahoma drill where you're lying on your
back and then the other guys lying on your back
and they go and then you jump up and then
you run into each other.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They called it the Oklahoma drill.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, that was the good old days. That's what That's
the way we used to do it, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
So when you play grade school football and you stink
like I did, you'd be in line for the Oklahoma drill,
and you'd look across and if you saw Richie Alcott
number fifty one, and you went back in line a
couple spots because you didn't not want to get.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Cooked by Richie.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You didn't want somebody wearing Dick Butkus's number. Oh no,
number fifty one. All right, we'll get to a poll
question today. I do want to mention there was a
topic yesterday we spent a lot of time, maybe too
much time, it talked about the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Was buying ten percent of ESPN.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
There's a merger between NFL Network and ESPN, and the
point that I made and want to continue to make,
there is a conflict of interest. I think we can
all agree to that now if you don't care about it,
and maybe you don't, but for me, I worry about that.
But you know, this is the old school in me
(06:55):
that you know with ESPN and having been there eighteen years,
and I'm mention that, you know, are they going to
have journalism?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Are they going to cover the NFL?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And I didn't mention any names, but there was one
person at the mothership, Don Van Nada, who is a
senior writer who's been on the show. I think last
time he was on five years ago to talk about
deep dive he did on the Decision with Lebron James,
and he's been on the show a couple of times.
He's a very good journalist. He took it personally when
(07:27):
I was saying I don't know if they did a
deep dive on the NFL Players Association mess and once again,
this is live radio and I'm saying I don't know.
So I'm not making a declarative statement. I'm just saying
I don't know. Well, Don Van Nada took it personally
that I don't go to ESPN dot com and read
(07:47):
his articles. I don't go to ESPN dot com. Okay,
I don't. If there's an article, the dan nets will
bring it to my attention. Hey, this is I did
it out of principle when I left ESPN, like I'm
going to put ESPN in my rear view mirror, and
I really it's not part of my morning or routine
(08:08):
of going there. So I missed that Don was doing
an expose on the NFL Players Association, and by all accounts,
did a great job. Now I did know that Mike
Florio and Pablo Torre were doing things and they added
to the story collusion story.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
They sent the stories to us.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We had them on, we had JC treder On, who
was second in command at the NFLPA. It's not a
story that you know we were staying away from. But
Don Benatta said that he was embarrassed for me because
I didn't know that he is the one who had
the story initially. I don't know if they promoted you correctly. Don,
(08:47):
to be honest with you, I don't know if you
were on first take. I don't know if you're on
NFL Live. I don't know if you're on Get Up.
I know that Pablo Torre and Mike Flora Mike Florio
were there front and center moting this and got a
lot of attention here. So I apologize for that that
I didn't know that you were the person, the originator
(09:07):
of this story there to say you're embarrassed for me
because I didn't see the article. I said that out loud.
I don't know if you guys did a deep dive
and I wasn't talking about you.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You made it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Personal about me, and you know about being a journalist,
I said at the point, I didn't know. And also,
you know, when you when you start, you started out
that way, you miss what the real point was is
is is there a conflict of interest? Like that's the
(09:43):
discussion here not I missed that you did something on
the and by the way, it's not on the NFL.
Your expose was on the NFL Players Association. There's a
big difference in that. So we've reached out to Don
if he wants to join us, great. You may not
even care about this, but when you say you're embarrassed
for me, and then you know you want to show
me your resume, and I'll show you mine, and you
(10:06):
know we can have a private conversation here. But if
you call me out, you're embarrassed. Imagine if you did this,
you did your article live, because that's what I do
every day. I write columns every single day for three hours.
And sometimes you make mistakes. And you know by saying
that there's not an investigative arm inside ESPN, that's on me.
(10:30):
I made a mistake. I know where your office is
and you know it's been scaled down greatly. I hope
you continue to fight the good fight. Don I hope
you and your staff fight the good fight. But now
is when you're judged. From here on out, is when
you're judged. Covering the NFL not what you did before.
Have you like me saying I'm not any good at this,
(10:51):
but man, was I good at SportsCenter? No one cares.
It's about today and tomorrow in the next day. Covering
the NFL Player Association is a whole lot different than
covering the NFL, and you have to admit, which you didn't.
It's a conflict of interest. The perception is a conflict
of interest, and that was the point that I was
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trying to make there.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wish you well, but if.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You want to have a conversation on the show or privately,
i'd love to. I have nothing against you. You're the
one that made it personal. And thank you all the
people on social media who stood up for me and
sent me the article. And I got way too many
articles sent to me. Very happy, But I hope to
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restore my journalistic credentials here this entire show. I got
three hours to do it, and perhaps I'll do that.
But there's a reason why the commissioner of the NFL
has not been on this show for over a decade.
Because I ask good questions. I asked the right questions.
I ask questions that can be uncomfortable. We take pride
(12:01):
in what we do and how we do it. And
because I offhandedly said I'm wondering because I didn't read
your expose, I'm going to renew my ESPN dot com
subscription poem.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Nineteen ninety nine a year. I'm special. Is that what
it is to get you a former employee rate? Yeah?
But this is another thing. I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
They have analytics that say, hey, we're covering this and
this and this and this and this. Don is in
the buzzkill business. His job is to find the negative
side of things. I mean, he's trying to find the
CD under belly here. And I don't know if get
up and first take and some of these other shows go, hey,
come on down, let's spend ten minutes talking about this.
(12:45):
And you know it's unfortunate, but I've been there. I
was there for a long time. A lot of people
who were great journalists no longer work there, and you're
you're alone in the corner there, Don, And I hope
that they add instead of subtracting there. I think that's
really important to cover the NFL, not just the NFLPA.
(13:09):
All right, well, take a break. We'll settle on a
poll question here eight seven to seven three DP show.
We're back after this.
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Preseason football All Tonight, I'm Ready, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders,
and the Seahawks. Mary kay Cabot covers the Cleveland Browns,
talking about how the Browns are handling Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
I do think that they are doing this the right
way with him and making sure that he is successful
as he comes up the learning curve, and they're flying
in the face of what everybody wants them to do.
But they have stuck to their guns and they're not
the coumbing to media pressure and public pressure and fan pressure.
They're not doing that. They're doing what's right for shoud Door,
(14:37):
and people have to understand that they're doing what's right
for the football team and for shaud Door.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's courtesy of ninety two point three the Fan in
Cleveland and Mary kay Cabot's been covering the Cleveland Browns
for decades, and she's right, this is the opportunity you want,
not Hey, you got to ease him into this. Should
or Sanders comes in full of confidence, ready to go.
We've been told he's ready to go. My source with
(15:04):
the brown says he's ready to go. He understands concepts,
he's getting along with teammates. There's maturity there. There's also
a sense of Hey, I know my place here. But
because of the injuries, he's going to get a chance
to play against Carolina. What if he didn't get a
chance to play then, what would the outcry be? Ah,
(15:24):
Now they're setting him up to fail. Make up your
mind if I'm shudor give me a chance. You got
a chance. And I still believe at some point during
this season he'll be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland
Browns eight seven to seven to three DP show email
address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. By
(15:45):
the way, I did spend some time in the first
segment of the show. I talked about ESPN conflict of interest,
the appearance of a conflict of interest with the NFL
buying ten percent of ESPN, and I questioned some of
the journalistic practices of ESPN and how important it is
to be covering the NFL. How will you cover the NFL?
(16:08):
Don Van Natta is a great investigative reporter who works there.
He took it personally, and we did reach out to
Dawn to see if he wanted to join us. He
said he was busy this morning but told Fritzy to
give me my best.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
What does that mean? It's very thoughtful.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, after saying I'm embarrassed for you that you're gonna
give give Dan my best?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Is that like, give him your best because you're gonna
need it because civil I am just so embarrassed. I
I don't know, give Dan my best shot. Sorry, I'm busy. Yeah,
oh what they don't have phones where you.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
Are for.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
This isn't personal. It shouldn't be personal. He made it personal.
I don't want to make it personal. He's very good
at what he does. I don't know if ESPN really
publicizes what he does and showcases him and puts him
on the big shows. So I'm kind of fighting his
fight inside while he's fighting me and not addressing the
(17:09):
perception perceived conflict of interest with ESPN. That's it, But
you can't tell me. Look at what I did with
the NFL Players Association, that's not the NFL. And those
are the points that I'm trying to make, Yes, Paul, it's.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Really tough to get investigative stories out there. It could
be ESPN, Fox, NBC, any sports network. They don't really
like to do deep dives on TV. There's not the
room for it. Producers don't want to do it because
it's a bogged down topic with a lot of details,
and so a lot of these stories don't get play
a show like Pablo Tory. His is a podcast that
(17:45):
you choose to participate, but you.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Know he's going to do an investigative report.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, and you choose to listen to it or watch
it on your own time.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Which really sucks though, because the work that investigator journalists
do is obviously important, but it is usually way more
interesting than watching like, hey, we got two Sports Center
hosts going kayaking this morning, let's check it out. Like
that's actually not why I watched Sports Center is to
see the host kayaking together.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I really don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
It feels like journalism is going to skip a generation.
It does, and that's that's sad because we took great
pride in the stories that we covered when I worked
at ESPN, when I worked with Bob Lee, when I
worked with Keith Oberman, we took great pride in that.
But the person who really built Sports Center, John Walsh.
(18:36):
He was bringing in writers, guys who could do investigative work,
and it just it's content now. I mean, I have
to get over the fact that ESPN is never going
to be my ESPN.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
It's just not.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Now you go back to your old neighborhood, doesn't look
the same, but it's still my old neighborhood. And I
once again, I hope that don when John ben Natt
has had expose's for the most part we've had him on,
I don't shy away from it, and I hope that
he gets the opportunity to continue.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
To do these stories.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
My point was, there is a perception of and it's
been there before. Now it's not perceived now you're in
business with the NFL.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
That was the point I was trying to make.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And because I off handedly said I don't know if
they did a deep dive on the NFL Players Association,
that's where he was ashamed of me as a journalist.
But I'll go back to what I said. It was
a throwing it out there. We do a live show.
Let me see you do a live column. We'll follow
along with you as you do a live column. Let
(19:45):
me see if you make any mistakes. But good luck
with that. You took your shot. We can move on
if you want to join us on the show. Great,
all right, pole question today set. No, it's not about him.
(20:05):
It's not about him. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
You don't care. Why you're talking about it so much? Well,
let me talk about the cowboys. Ye really, you don't care?
She sounds like you can't. That's my Internet voice for today.
Oh really, Oh you don't care? I care? I care.
I just don't want to care. We're supposed to talk
about the cowboys. No, you're talking about the cowboys. I
don't want.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't want to care anymore. I haven't been there
for eighteen years. I don't want to care anymore.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Which somebody once described radio as it's like one step
above rodeo clown, which I don't really disagree with. I
gotta admit it's it's pretty fair. And the I just
saw from a good friend of ours that the is sad. Okay,
and this is meant as a joke. Okay, So don't
(20:57):
everybody get upset. What But the invest degative journalist is
essentially one step above the website onmbudsman, which, yeah, that's
about the level of respect that you're getting these days.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
It's like, oh, really, we don't care. What have you
ever heard of the on budsmen?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I know, yeah, dude, nobody cares about that correction.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And we had an on budsman at the Mothership. I remember,
I like, what does he do? And nobody could really
tell me what he was doing. He kind of over
would oversee what we were writing because we did write everything.
The journalist in me was writing everything every night on
Sports Center. But the onmbudsman, Yes, Paulie, it's a very
(21:37):
unique role.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's supposed to be completely autonomous. It's mostly at newspapers,
the on budsmen. Yeah, and they can investigate whatever they want,
they could critique whatever they want.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, it's just the days of investigative reporting, unfortunately, are
slowly slipping away.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, paul and we've.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Talked about this before, but it's a lot of it's
analytics based. It's what the audience wants, they give you
more of. It's like a restaurant. And so these different
shows on different networks, they do a segment about the
NFLPA and people will tune out, and then they're like, well,
we're not doing NFLPA again. It becomes a cycle. And
then if you tune into because should or Sanders got
(22:15):
in a car wreck or got busted for speeding, they're
going to talk more about should or Sanders.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
If you're flipping through and you see, oh my god,
they're talking about Michael Parsons, Shadoor Sanders, whatever, or the
NFL Player Association, you're going to the other ones.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You're not going to go to that.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
But also it's how your network promotes this and you know,
gives you the platform. That's really the important part. We
don't deal with analytics. Maybe we should, I don't know,
but I want to come in and talk about what
I want to talk about. I don't want to come
in and have somebody say, here's the analytics. You have
to talk about this these three four things. And there
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are shows that are really successful doing that. I just
that's not why I want to continue to do this.
It's fun to be able to come in and talk
about what you want to come in and talk about.
And it's not scripted, and we don't have a boss
who's telling us these things. But when there are times
to do a deep dive on something or it's something
that's uncomfortable, you know, there is a scandal, you we
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don't shy away from it. It's not like I go, oh, boy,
people are going to tune out. I hope that you
trust me when I'm telling you about something that it
is important.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And here's why. Yeah, we go fast.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Forward to like nine months from now when investigative journalists
are choosing to quit their jobs because peace that they
wrote on the NFL got killed. Well, I mean, you've
been criticized before in the past for having some news
stories or breaking some news that people are.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Like, what are you crazy? That's the dumbest thing I've
ever heard.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
And then nine months later they released their own hey
version of just broke this story.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Happened with college football when college football was being canceled
and the journalist in me was breaking stories, and boy,
they were not pleased and talking hairdoo breaking stories. First
of all, they all have contracts, so yeah, and then
they eventually came out and kind of apologized, I'm over it,
Jake and Buffalo. Hi Jake, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Hi Jake?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Hey Dan. I think this issued this little fight with
Don Bannantta sort of reinforces the point of how little
coverage the story is getting. It's a massive skip. The
biggest sport in the country, the worldwide leader, has exactly
one person trying to bring attention to it. Seems like
if it was something else, there would be a lot
(24:40):
more attention. They quick start to the ESPN website. There's
like one clip in the last month giving this attention.
I just don't understand. I think it's sort of reinforces
the point you may have overlooked it because it's not
getting the attention it deserves.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, and I missed it. I don't go to ESPN
dot com. But I did hear Florio, and I did
hear Pablo Torelo. Well, he called us. He called Paulie
and said, hey, you want me to talk about this.
Florio does this show that precedes hours? I was able
to see these things if Don was on with the
other shows, if he was on first take and I
(25:12):
missed it, then that's on me. But just because I
said I don't know what kind of deep dive and
I didn't see your report, that doesn't make me less
of a journalist. It makes me say, I wonder, I
don't know what kind of you know, publicity expose you
did on the NFLPA all right, I found out, Okay,
(25:33):
I did find out.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
We did cover it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
See, Well, the goodness is that while ESPN might not
be covering it a ton, you can go to another
network that's not in bed with the NFL and they're
covering it heavily. Yeah, that's the sarcasm fund right there,
because nobody is covering it because everybody's in bed with
the NFL. We're all completely you know, captive by like
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we have to cover the NFL constantly.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yes, it's becoming the norm.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
There's a Wall Street journal piece that came out this
morning that is part of this new restructuring deal with
the NFL network. The NFL is also going to have
a ten percent partnership stake with CBS. I know, so
it's not just limited to ESPN.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah no, but this is you know, CBS is on
all it's not omnipresent.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
ESPN is on all the time.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And they got all these NFL shows. You got to
fill those things up. I mean, there's only so many
times when you could say, let's talk about Dak's legacy.
You know, there's other things, and hopefully there's room for
these stories. Hopefully they cover these stories. Hopefully they don't
kill or you know, look the other way with these stories.
Gary and Iowa. Hi, Gary, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (26:45):
You're more in Dan.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
Thank you for the callback.
Speaker 11 (26:48):
Yep, so the smelly sauce you can ready to get
off Amazon. I ordered a box yesterday. They should be
here tomorrow. My wife asked me, why.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Do you need them?
Speaker 13 (26:58):
Gary?
Speaker 11 (27:00):
But my wife asked me that, and I would therefore,
and I told her, well, I'll open up your sinuses,
so we'll see all that goes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh boy, okay, you know what I would do, Blow
my nose, Gary, That's how I'd open up my sinuses. Yes,
how about we just blow our nose? That would that
would help? What else do you have for me?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Gary?
Speaker 11 (27:19):
Well, don from the ownership, I think it's pretty weak.
He wants to call you out and say you should
be embarrassed, But yet it's pretty embarrassing for him. He
don't want to appear on your show for five minutes
and detained himself and.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
He might be busy Gary, you know, short notice.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
But I read this this morning and then I came
in and I said to Fritzy, invite don ben Nana.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I don't have anything against the guy. Just let's just
say it. It's fine if you.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But you're embarrassed for me. Okay, now now we have
a conversation here. You know, maybe you regret sending that
or using you know that word, but.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I wouldn't put those words in his mouth. Yeah, you're
my bad. I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, No, I won't. Maybe maybe it's like he wanted
to say something stronger than that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Okay, we're done, aren't we.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Billy and Nashville, Hi, Billy, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (28:13):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (28:13):
Good morning. I just wanted to remind it remind you
that Dan van Nada, he did do a pretty hard
hit on the NFL in conjunction with Seth Wickersham. If
you'll remember all the reporting that came out on Dan
Snyder that certainly shook up the league a little bit
and had a lot of ownership with that.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
He does a great job that that was not the point.
Nobody's I'm not I'm not addressing his credentials, Billy. I.
We we talked about this yesterday before the show even started.
We we named Paully mentioning my name. It's not it
has nothing to do with his credentials. It's he's embarrassed
because I didn't realize that he broke this story about
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the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
About the This is a bigger story than Don Van Nada.
And it's not about let me show you my resume
and I'll show you your resume and we'll talk about it.
That's not what this is. He does a very good job.
I'm not here to critique anything about that. He critiqued
me that I'm not a journalist, and he was, you know,
(29:14):
embarrassed for me. Okay, that's a little bit different there.
But yeah, Grady did a great job on Dan Snyder. Congratulations.
That's your job, hey, great job being an investigative reporter.
That's your job, being an investigative reporter. Oh boy, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Want some good news?
Speaker 14 (29:42):
Yeah, sure, Lee Corso ninety today you.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Have a second source that's correct, Yes, thank you?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Oh is that the only birthday today, other birthdays too,
Why only pub tours?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Anyways, a handshake agreement, you know binding?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh, you want to bring it back to the cowboy
handshake agreement. Back in my day, we did a handshake agreement.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I can't the agent b present, what's the problem. He
could look in the eye.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Back in my day, I would cut my finger and
then you would have cut your finger, and then we
would put our fingers together and we were we flipped
the coin and wet those fingers. Yes, Marvin, that's the
way it was back in the day. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I sent a note to a lawyer yesterday. I hesitate
to bring this up to a trial lawyer. This guy's
like a big time guy. And I said, what a
handshake agreement hold up in court? And he says, there
are situations where it can. Now, I know this is
different than the contract and stuff like this, But if
like two parties make a verbal handshake agreement that the
shaking of the hands does nothing, but a verbal conversation
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between two parties can be admissible in court.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
But he's already breaking a rule, yes, by negotiating with
his player.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, Jerry Jones are breaking a lot of rules.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
You're not allowed to do that now, So let's not
get lost in the Hey, we had a verbal agreement
or a handshake, you're not allowed to be negotiating with
him to get that verbal agree.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The CBA has language that the representative for the player
should be present during these negotiations.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yes, Todd, And I.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Would think someone would have to have witnessed that conversation
or that handshake, because then if he said he said,
I didn't take his hand, I don't know what he's
talking about there, I'd have to have been a third
party to confirm it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Thank you to you.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Welcome Jeremy and Cincinnati. Hi Jeremy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15 (31:34):
What question for you?
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Dan?
Speaker 15 (31:36):
Along the Micah Parsons line, And then I have a
poll question if if we have time, Okay, So I
teach maths and so we have to do a couple
of problems yesterday, and so we were using Micah Parsons
as an example, and this, I know goes against everything
everyone is saying. So he's twenty six right now, and
everyone's pushing to get the deal done early. But if
you look from Jerry's point of view, if he drags
it out through this year and painting whatever, you know,
(31:58):
eight less than what he would be making then franchise
tagging next year. Yeah, he's only negotiating one more contract
when he's twenty eight twenty nine, where Trey Hendrix is
now where you're kind of on that bubble and this
and that. If he does it early at twenty six,
Mike is going to be pushing at the end of
twenty beginning of twenty nine for another contract bump up.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think we talked about that a little bit yesterday
or the day before about if Jerry wants to make
this a little more uncomfortable with Michaeh Parsons and thanks
for the phone call. I just don't think he does,
because you have the entire team on Micah's side, and
I think probably most of America football fan wise on
Micah's side with this that Jerry's saying, Hey, we weren't
(32:40):
supposed to be talking, but we talked and we had
an agreement there. It doesn't work that way. It can't
work that way. That's why you have certified agents with
the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, PAULI, this goes.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Back to the bigger, overall arching problem. If I were
a Cowboys fan. I would want a general manager, a
dispassionate person who gets contract done and isn't trying to
be in front of a microphone every week.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
That's the bigger, bigger problem. Yeah, but he loves being
the god.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
You can do all that and hire a business head
to run be the GM.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
But he wants to be in there with the conversation
with me. And I sat down with Micah and I
looked at him in the eye and I said, y'all
want you to be a leader, and here's the deal,
and you're gonna agree to it right here, shake my hand, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Why do you sound like Leonardo DiCaprio and Jangle unchanged?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I want you to sho.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I apologize for that, Jerry, I'm not inspired by Leo's
character there.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Wow, but also sorry not to cut you off, but
to cut you off again. Jerry thinks he's a football guy.
He thinks to himself, I have I have three Super
Bowl rings as a general manager. Even though he didn't
put the team together. Jimmy did. But in his head
he's like, no, no, I'm a football guy. I know football,
So let me just keep doing this.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Tom in Atlanta, Hi, Tom, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16 (34:00):
Hey Dan, thanks for calling you know this. I feel
embarrassed for you saying is it's it's such a passive aggressive,
backhanded kind of insult that I'll be using in the
office today. Hey Jim that lunch order. I feel embarrassed
for you.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
All the best? Thank you, Tom, Yes, give Dan my best.
I'm embarrassed for me at best?
Speaker 11 (34:25):
What right?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Hook?
Speaker 11 (34:27):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Tom, I don't know if that's the perfect example of
passive aggressive. That's pretty aggressive.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm very clear what the person is saying is questioning
your journalism.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I don't know what's the confusing.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And you know passive aggressive, Yes, you do, pressive aggressive.
Nobody ever talks about somebody who's aggressive aggressive. It's just
passive aggressive. So that's just an aggressive aggressive. How about
we take a break here? All right, let's all collude
and take a break here.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
After this.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
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Speaker 2 (35:10):
The play of the day?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Play This is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Check this out.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Schneider gives one a ride to center field back, looking
up and watching it go. David Schnyder with another bomb.
His second homer of the ballgame is a three run shot.
It travels four hundred and fifty four feet and the
Blue Jays now lead nineteen to one.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Davis Schneider had three of Toronto's twenty four hits in
Toronto's twenty to one.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Win over the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
In the series, Toronto had sixty three hits. That's the
most by a baseball team in baseball history. The Rockies
now thirty and eighty four. By the way, the run
differential between the Rockies and their opponents minus three hundred
and sixteen.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh, I have to go back to nineteen eleven.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
The Boston Rustlers had a worst run differential. That's the
that's the team that had a worst run differential through
this many games than.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Colorado Rustler's an embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Boston Rustlers. I'm embarrassed by their performance back then in
nineteen eleven.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
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Jason and Tampa, Hi, Jas, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11 (37:00):
KBP just wanted to let you know you got a
little bit of Jerry Jones going on from.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
That guy that writes the articles FORESPN. He's losing relevancy,
he's losing everything.
Speaker 11 (37:09):
And that was a forty five minute spread you just
gave him for the last hour.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Just wanted to point that out.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's an interesting topic of journalism in society, so it's
not about him.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
But thanks for the phone call.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
And I don't think he was saying what he said
to me to get publicity.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
He wanted to.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Give his side of the story of me saying don't
you realize that there is journalism at ESPN? And I
did write this article, and I didn't see the article.
It wasn't showcased by ESPN. But I didn't make it personal.
I couldn't care less. I hope he does his job.
I hope he gets the opportunity to do his job. Yes, yeah,
(37:54):
you're sort of doing the equivalent of you know, like
when somebody is like talking tracks about you all this, yeah,
and you're.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Like, who.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
No, I never even heard of them? No, I know
you're like, sorry, I just I didn't even know you
wrote that. I didn't know we wrote the article.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Kind of the.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Equivalent of like, sorry, I don't even know who that is.
It's the promotion of the article by ESPN. Correct, that
was it. I just didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Good And that's passive aggressive. Thank you, Todd. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Todd Brett in South Dakota, Hi Brett, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Ep T shirt idea not a journalist. I'll be the
first to buy.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Thank you, or just I'm embarrassed for you. You could
do that as a T shirt.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
It is tough though, to be like like, hey, journalism
is dead. Over there a company of like five thousand people,
and one guy is like, not so fast.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
All right, we're done with this. I'm done. I'm done
with it. Yes, I got another two hours.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Poor Todd over there being definitely quiet because he has
to deal with ESPN to book guests every week.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
What do you want to have about to.
Speaker 10 (39:14):
Average?
Speaker 17 (39:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:15):
You want sky that December ninth o'clock.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
You know, I actually think concussions are good for players.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's spinning thing Turbo in Buffalo, Hi Turbo, Hey Dan.
Speaker 17 (39:31):
I give you my best thanks. I have a stat
of the day, but I'm not sure it's the stats
something I just thought about a couple of days ago
and I wanted to call him. By. By the way,
I have a minor in journalism, and Polly mentioned earlier
the phrase I'm buzzing. You remember this one where they would
say watch dogs, you're supposed to be a watchdog?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah? Yeah, you remember that?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 17 (39:55):
Okay, and all right, before I get to my stair
of the day, there's two guests, because I you're bouncing
in a couple of years, two guests that you have
to have on one obviously Jenny Batchie. The second one
is Corbyn from Fritzy's camp.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
We've been trying to track down Corbin. There's a picture
of Fritzy when he's I don't know, youth camp counselor,
and Fritzy and Corbin have their shirts off and their
nipples are touching, and I was like, what is going
on with that picture?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
A photobomb?
Speaker 7 (40:27):
I just wanted to kind of pose by myself and
he just kind of snuggled up in his tank top
next to me.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yes, yes, Paulling the IT team has a brief update.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
We were able to locate and connect with Corbyn a
couple of years ago, but the response wasn't what the
Iteam was looking for. We protect the source, and so
we're in negotiations long term.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
And I don't want to disrupt Jenny Batchi's life any
more than I did fifty years ago. You know it
was fleeting. She disrupted mine, I will say, but I
don't want to do that to her. She's happily married,
she's children and grandchildren.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
I'm not really surprised that, given the way we've covered
the Corbin story, that he's not interested in coming on.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I gotta admit I don't know that. That's a lovely
lime green tank top.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
That wasn't interesting if only there was an investigative journalist
who could.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Track him down. All right, we're done with that. We're
done with that. Oh I just see what you did.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Stop that
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