August 6, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan doesn’t really want to talk about the Dallas Cowboys, but Jerry Jones is talking out of both sides of his mouth again regarding his negotiations with Micah Parsons. And the NFL buys a stake in ESPN and Dan considers the implications and possible conflict of interest.
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a play of the day, poll question, stat of the Day,
all of that forthcoming. I don't really have a direction
with my compass here today. I don't know if there's
anything that's really right off the bat. You know, we're
(01:54):
still trying to figure out. We're work shopping what is
the lead story today. I'm trying to hold off on
Michah Parsons and Jerry Jones, although it's getting a little
more interesting. Jane Slater did a really good job NFL
Network Cowboys reporter talking to Jerry Jones, and we were
learning about a handshake deal that he had with Micah Parsons.
(02:16):
There's one problem with this, And Mike Florio of Pro
Football Talk, he pointed this out a couple of days ago.
Owners and players aren't supposed to negotiate contracts. You are
supposed to go through an agent who is certified by
the NFL Players Association. Well, Jerry's been doing this for
a long long time and nobody called him on it.
(02:38):
But now he's saying at a handshake agreement with Michael
Parsons and then all of a sudden he doesn't have
a handshake agreement. Here is Jane Slater talking to Jerry
Jones about how he does business.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So how would you describe a deal getting, so to speak,
done and then walked away from.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about
thirty seconds, and I gave the numbers, shook hands. The
details we worked out later. As a matter of fact,
one of the details involved a lot of money and
we had to flip a coin over that. But the
fundamental I'm buying and you're going to sell it to
me for that range, that's done and those are done
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with eye contact and handshake.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
So is there it just so you understand why.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
The way that I communicate with people that I negotiate with.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So let's leave it at that.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
There is no question that in the case of a
player or contract, you have to have it in writing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
All parties do.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
We have a contract in writing, Yet we're still talking
about renegotiating it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So so much for that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, once again, you have to go through an agent.
I don't know what happened, you know, forty years ago
when he bought the Cowboys, when I don't know, did
you write it down on a napkin?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Here's our number and there's your number, and that's not
an official deal. Just so you know, a handshake agreement
is not going to hold up. Maybe, Michael Parson said,
and I've been in negotiations before where you get somebody
who kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Gives you the vagaries.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You know, it's kind of gray area, like yeah, you know,
how about yeah, let me think about it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'll get back to you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That doesn't mean now I can shake your hand when
I leave. That doesn't mean I'm shaking your hand in
agreeing to you. It's let me talk to people. I mean,
that's why you have an agent. Jerry doesn't like dealing
with agents, and then he didn't know Michaeh Parson's agent's name,
or it acted like he didn't a couple of weeks ago. Okay,
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he does know who he is, because he's negotiated a
contract with him with another member of the Dallas Cowboys.
But Jerry handshake agreement and Michaeh Parson is kind of
renegging on that deal that you agreed to. I'd like
to hear Michael Parson's portion of this, but you know,
to Michaeh Parson's credit, he hasn't said much. He's just like, hey,
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I'm trying to get this done, and we're not going
to get this done now you can trade me. That's
really all we've heard from him. I don't know what
the deal is. I know where they're probably going to
land and it's probably going to be forty two million
dollars a year. And is he going to be available
week one? Jerry didn't think so, and he said, yeah,
(05:35):
this is urgent.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But James Slater asking him about doing his business and
how he does this business, Jerry did talk about Micah's
contract saga, Well, we need to become urgent.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I mean clearly you want him on the field for
against Lenadelphia. I wanted to become urgent that we need
to get some something resolved one way or another that
he's on the field against Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Again, your definition of urgent is not necessarily I don't
get believe he gave a definition of urgent.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Okay, and so I'll stay urgent.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Any competence that he will be on the field good front.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Door again, No, absolutely not. That has to a big
part of that is his decision.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
How would I know that. I'm just saying no, but
I'm urgent. Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm not sure he understood the question do you think
he's going to be there week one? And then he
said no. I don't know if he thought, hey, is
there any chance that he won't be there? And I
thought that's where Jerry was answering no, but trying to
sort this out. I still think a deal gets done.
I don't think you're trading him. I haven't heard anybody
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say anything about anybody offering anything for Mica Parsons. Now,
if you have that, okay, now we can have a discussion.
It's like Trey Hendricks with the Bengals or Terry mclauren. Now,
I've seen websites where they'll go potential landing spots for well,
Terry McLaurin. I've seen six teams, but that would just
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be because they need a wide receiver. I don't know
if they've offered anything. Micah Parsons, I haven't heard anything
proposed trades. What if the Bears give two first round
picks and a fourth round pick? There's no reporting attached
to this, And the same with Trey Hendrickson. Has anybody
made an offer to the Bengals, because it doesn't sound
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like anybody has. Now, if somebody does, now we can
have a conversation that this is real, that he could
possibly go.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, I love that, you know, Like we spend a
lot of time talking about Jerry Jones is a brilliant businessman.
He's brilliant. He's a genius, so great at business. Obviously
he's very successful at business. Yeah, but he's a genius businessman.
Like Jay, how about how'd you get through the finer
points of getting the Cowboys? We shook hands and flipped
a coin. That's wow. I had no idea that that's
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what goes into being such a genius.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We flipped a coin. I can do both of those.
I can shake your hand and I can flip a coin.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Really you did it. Don't think I could get the
Cowboys with that strategy.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
Yes, Paulie, I somewhat respect what Jerry Jones is saying that,
you know, a handshake deal can start a deal. And
if that handshake deal, though, was last March, things have changed.
Things have changed a lot with the defensive end position.
That handshake is no longer apt with with with yeah, Parsons, No,
I'm saying not with Parsons, but with all the other
players who have signed. It changed the entire market. So
(08:41):
that handshake deal does not hold up what it gives
to the agent four months.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But you should have signed him to the contract back
in March exactly. If you do that now you're binded.
You're bound by that. Then then it's different. If I
shake your hand and say, hey, you know what we'll
get back?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I like you shook.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Hands and you agreed and principal something. I got to
get the paperwork done then, because I know I got
these other defensive players who are going to be signing
for more money right away. It's urgent, he said. He's urgent.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Why didn't you get the paperwork done?
Speaker 8 (09:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
See, well this is why he doesn't like agents, because
it's possible. Michael Parsons was like, man, that's a good deal,
let's sign And the agent said.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
What's the rush?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why don't we just let the season play out. A
general manager wouldn't allow this to happen. A GM would
have said, we'll drop the papers. We're ready to go,
We'll drop the papers.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yes, right.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Nobody likes middleman, but man, do they come in handy
sometimes with things like this.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But you're required to deal with the agent. You're required
so you can't say, hey, we're kind of loose when
it comes to negotiating contract. But if I decide that
I'm going to cut you, then you know, do I
have to live up to the contract that we signed
or just a handshake agreement? Like you can't pick and choose.
(10:04):
But the NFL has allowed Jerry to do this for
decades now. He's the most powerful man in the NFL.
But a handshake agreement. I'd have to know more about
this from Michael Parson's perspective, but you know, it's just
the further along this goes, it just becomes like this abyss.
(10:25):
You go in and you're like, I don't know if
I'll get out anytime soon. And that's why I always
have trepidation when it comes to discussing this. Am I
humored by Jerry Jones? Sometimes? Yes, I am, but not
a good way. It just he should speak less, He
should have his son speak maybe more. But you know
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when you give us these colloquialisms and you know, a handshake,
and that's the way we used to do it, and
that's the good old days and that's not the good
old days now. Michael Parsons has an agent. Deal with
the agent. That's when you get something that's official. That's
when you're going to get something on paper, that's gonna
be something where you sign. That's when you have something
(11:08):
that is binding. Yes, tod, I can appreciate.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
What Jerry saying as far as eye contact and you know,
talking directly to one another. But why does it have
to be instead of an agent being present? Why can't
you have both things. We're gonna talk and we're gonna
look at each other, we're gonna be in the same room.
But I also want to have my attorney. I got
to protect myself. My agent knows legal things in terms that.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I'm not familiar with. That's why he pays him part
of his contract.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Jerry loves to do this.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Speaking to a former Cowboy yesterday, he loves to be
there and just talk to you.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's just you and me. We'll just talk and he
can convince you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
To maybe take something that you shouldn't take, or less
than you should take, or well we're gonna take now
the language that was given to me yesterday by a
former cowboy. He's like, Jerry will say, you know, well,
we'll worry about that later. You can't do that, not
with something like this. You're talking two hundred million dollars
with Micah Parsons. Probably it can't be. Will take care
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of that a little later whenever.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
We need to.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Don't worry about that. No, no, no, we got to
worry about all those things. That's part of the problem
with the Cowboys' attention to detail. Maybe that's why you
haven't been back to the super Bowl in thirty years.
Preseason football ramps up coming up tomorrow. Shardor Sanders gets
the start for the Cleveland Browns. I think he's the
(12:32):
only quarterback who's healthy right now he gets the start.
That'll be fun. ESPN is acquiring NFL Network, also Red Zone.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I go back eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The great writer Jim Miller, who wrote the ESPN Book,
reported that ESPN was trying to reestablish a positive relationship
with the NFL. This is eight years ago the network
was gauging whether to abandon the NFL. They were having
a hard time being a business partner, according.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
To Jim Miller. Now they're all in.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Everybody's all in on this, and I know, you know,
the journalist in me talks about or would talk about,
or would point out the conflict of interest. But ESPN
can't be any further in bed with the NFL when
it comes to their coverage. Are they going to look
the other way with whatever negative story that comes up?
(13:35):
They've probably already done that. I mean, go back to
when I was there on ESPN Radio and we were
talking about Playmakers, which was a fictional show and it
was about the NFL. The NFL called up and talked
to my boss and said, hey, take it off your network,
and they did. I don't know if anybody's going to
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hold the NFL their feet to the fire. I mean,
I'd liked I hope that there's people. Mike Florio is
one of the few people who will challenge the NFL,
and everybody's in bed with the NFL. All networks have
partnerships here. As far as a conflict of interest, I
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think that's long gone. I think there's certain things that
you're just not going to cover. I don't know how
deep the ESPN went in on the mess of the
NFL Players Association. I know Florio did, A couple of
people did, but I don't know if you know that's
we're in the content business. That's what Jimmy Pataro, who
(14:46):
runs ESPN, they're in the content business. Outside the lines
gone with Bob Lee, Jeremy Shapp. I mean you have
a couple of investigative reporters like E sixty is a
monthly magazine type feature. I'm talking about day to day
looking at stories, giving you both sides of the stories.
And maybe you don't care about it, you know, maybe
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you know being a dinosaur. I do because the NFL
should be held accountable for certain things. But the NFL,
I'm sure does not want. Hey, we own part of
you ten percent. Well, the NFL has probably owned a
lot of ESPN for a long period of time. It's
(15:29):
just not official, that's all. But you know, good for
you know, the mother ship getting that partnership. They've they've
done a good job in establishing. I think they get
three more games. You know, they want to get a
Super Bowl red zone. You're going to get that with
Scott Hansen. So I you know, a lot of moving
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parts there. It's a big deal and it's been in
the works for it was on again, off again, now
on again for years. They've talked about this because the
owners were worried about NFL Network and now now it's
ESPN's problem. But there's a lot of great people over there.
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They just gutted the place that was the disappointing part
of it at a lot of great football people. They
streamlined it. So then they were going to sell it,
and I said, well, ESPN's going to buy it now
ESPN and their reporters and I don't know how you
cross pollinate, but that that happened and it's a big, big,
big deal for certainly ESPN and NFL Network. All right,
(16:35):
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Speaker 2 (17:26):
Settle on a poll question, Got our play of the
day coming up? Eight seven, seven to three. DP show
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dp show. Let me see Mike, and Florida leads us off.
Good morning, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (17:43):
Hey, good morning guys. Six foot two, nine point six Hey, thanks, So,
I just wanted to kind of look at this from
the other side. I know this isn't going to be
the popular opinion here. But in that conversation that Jerry
Jones is actually having with Jane Slader, he talks about
the hand shake stuff and the coin flip stuff, but
at the end he also says, if you hear him,
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he says that there is a contract sign like he
says that the player agreements have to be written, and
then he says, we had a written agreement. But so
much for that. So let me ask you, what is
the actual incentive of signing Michael Parsons early to pay
him forty five million dollars a year. I don't I
don't understand you know what the big deal is.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, let's say I signed Michael Parsons back in March.
The number then was thirty four million, So what is
the number now? It's probably going to be at least
forty two million dollars because Michaeh. Parsons will ask for
more money than TJ want and Miles Garrett. That's where
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you signed somebody early. So now I save eight million
dollars and then the next year I would have gotten
him at thirty four Maybe it goes up to thirty five.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Well, maybe it's going.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
To go from forty two to forty three, so it's
another eight million, and then another eight million, and then
maybe another eight million. So if I have the logic
there of signing him early at thirty four, maybe I'm
saving over thirty million dollars over the lifetime of this
contract here. That's why I would have signed him right away,
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knowing that TJ. Watt was going to get paid, Max
Crosby was going to get paid, Miles Garrett got paid.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You know what the price is going to be?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Yeah, PAULI just to play devil's advocate here, because agents
do surptitious things. What if they had a handshake deal
and a light paperwork deal in March and then the
agent said, don't sign it, let it breathe, let other
guys get signed and let the market change, and we'll
wait till August when there's pressure on them to sign
you and we're going to get you that six million
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more per season. It's very possible Jerry Jones and Parsons
and his agent had a deal in place six months
ago and the agent said no, no, let the market pay out.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Did some with some official no.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
But you know, I mean, like an agreement in place
until it's inked it means nothing. Yes, it's very possible.
The agents saw the te leaves of TJ. Watt and said,
we'll sign after what.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
If if he's a and he is a respected agent,
you know what the market is.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
But signing early doesn't help your client. It helps the
next client.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, but if you're Jerry Jones and we have a
handshake agreement, no, let's let's sign the contract right now.
The agent's doing what the agent's supposed to do, and
let's look down the road. You don't, you don't want
to sign something, and all of a sudden you go,
I'm making eight million dollars less than TJ.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, those guys are coming up, and you know
Pittsburgh's going to sign them, and the Raiders are going
to sign Max Crosby. You're next. Why wouldn't you just wait,
wait until they've signed, then you sign?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, all right, Jerry Jones said, we have a contract
in writing it, were still talking about renegotiating it so
so much for that is the rule. Once you write
it down on paper, it has to be signed. Or
can you write it down on paper and then continue
to negotiate. I mean you can be sorry, that somebody
typed it up. But that doesn't mean that you can't
still be like m I want to tweak this.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I had a contract at ESPN where they just had
a blank space and then a blank space and blank
space for how much you're getting paid vacation and they
you know, so they just put in the numbers.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
The contract's the same, they just put in the numbers.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't know if that's the case with Michaeh Parsons,
where hey, we got a contract. We may not have
hard numbers in there, but we got a handshake agreement
that this is the general vicinity of where we're going
to land. Micah Parsons agent did the right thing not signing.
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But Jerry, if you had an handshake agreement, you don't
let somebody out the door. It's the same thing when
he was buying the Cowboys. Hey you want to sell okay,
handshake agreement. Let's get this done right now. If you've
ever bought a car, or a house, or you know,
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something with a big purchase, you you know, handshake agreement.
Yeah I'm gonna buy it. That doesn't mean anything. Hey,
we gotta you know, we're gonna sell this to you
for one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
All right, all right, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Hey, we want to sign you for this, okay, handshake agreement,
all right, doesn't mean anything. And Jerry's not supposed to
be negotiating with Michaeh. Parsons to begin with. All right,
spending way too much time on this, I apologize. I
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do well out of my way to not talk the Cowboys.
But when you start to hear what Jerry's logic is,
and then there's certain things you have to comment on.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yes, see, well right, you know, going out of your
way to not talk about the Cowboys means not trying
to squeeze them into every show. When there's legitimate stories
happening and interesting things, you absolutely should talk about them. Yes,
But if it's a slow day, I don't tell you, hey,
let's discuss Dax's legacy. I'm not going to do that
(23:30):
to you.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But when it's something that's real that does affect the
rest of the NFL, you know, there's certain topics that
you know should be vetted.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I do think we should talk about Cede lambmoorph, but.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Joe Milton.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And the legacy of Trey Lance when he was a backup, quarterback,
and down. Yeah, the red zone situation is great. Scott Hansen, Uh,
you know, I don't think anything changes. You're just you're
you're buying NFL network.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's all. You won't see the Cowboys on there much.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, their coverage is going to be the same. I
read where somebody was looking at the deal with ESPN
and NFL Network and the NFL. Maybe there's more global
expansion due to ESPN with football.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I mean, you're dealing with a lot of money here,
and uh, I think it's a great deal for ESPN
for the value of ESPN and the NFL networks, you know,
continues to just gobble up it. You know, they're they're
pac man, They're just gobbling up everything. They're they're dominating,
taking over the sports world. Yes, that man.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Is There a lot of questions about that though, at
least I know for me, Yeah, that is there even
a line anymore between a league, the newsroom and the
marketplace in general? Is does that line even exist in
this instance? There's all kinds of antitrust questions to be asked.
There's if you're a rival broadcaster of ESPN. I know,
(25:18):
my hand is raised right now, be only interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
If you're Fox, Are you going hold on here?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I mean, ethics and journalism is the easiest part of it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
The rest of it is like geez man.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Fox should have bought NFL network, then they could be
best friends with the NFL.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Yes, Paulin the big picture is all these networks have
partnerships with all these different brands and leagues, and there's
no upside to investigate them and bust them and take
them down for the lack of a better phrase, like
a journalistic phrase, and so if there's a story, they
lean against it until they have to cover it, when
it becomes so big that you have to cover something
(25:59):
and there's no way around it. But not initiating coverage,
initiating investigations that doesn't really happen anymore in the network
mill you Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And I don't know if you the fans even care
that's what they're banking on. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I mean I do, But it's just you have to
hold leagues people accountable. I mean, I want to know
what we're watching is real and we're investigating this and
is there a problem there? And what's that mean? And
I just don't think you can sort of turn a
blind eye to it. I think you got to be fair.
(26:38):
You got to be fair to what you're covering and
give both sides to this investigative work there, like the
concussion lawsuit if that came up. Now, are they are
the networks really going to do a deep dive on this?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I don't think so. I would hope they would.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I just don't mean just from experience, they probably wouldn't. Yes, well,
I've been right.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's not a lot different than the SEC network isn't
going to do a deep dive into corruption in the SEC,
and that's an ESPN property. You know, there is no
any like anyone talking about how journalism is important right
now is joking.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And maybe you know the last journalist is Pablo Torre.
He's on an island, but he's doing investigative work. I
appreciate it. Well, granted it's Belichick and his girlfriend, but
he's still doing He's still asking questions and hopefully I'll
continue to do so for the next two and a
(27:46):
half years. Where you just asked the questions that need
to be asked. It's probably the reason why the Commissioner
of the NFL hasn't been on this show for over
a decade. There's no upside for him to come on
and answer questions. I mean, I'll still be fair to
him and fair, you know, to the office. But there's
certain things that you know, you asked questions, Rob Manfred
(28:09):
Adam Silver, come on. It's not always easy questions, but
I'll continue we continue to ask.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Yeah, Paulie, this reminds me of the NCAA offices over
the past twenty five years, where they rarely investigate anybody
or initiate investigations like a Yahoo investigation of Reggie Bush,
and USC has to fall in their lap for them
to enforce it.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Yea.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
It's like, why would they be in the business of
taking down USC or Alabama or any Notre Dame or
anybody that's not good for business.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We did more investigative work on Reggie Bush's heisman. We
found the heisman. They couldn't find his heisman. All of
a sudden, I said to Pauline, find Reggie Bush's heisman.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It took him three days.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
It's under a desk in an office in San Diego.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, Uh, James in Texas, Hi, James, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 13 (29:06):
Hey, brother, how are you doing?
Speaker 14 (29:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Good?
Speaker 13 (29:08):
Hey, I just wanted to weigh in on this Michael
Parsons agent saying that's going on right now. His agent
was fired by Tie Higgins because of the negotiations going
so poorly. And he's also responsible for the Deshaun Watson contract,
which is the worst contract ever done in you know,
(29:28):
NFL history. So is it possible that he's more to
blame for this than.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, wait a minute, did he get the contract from
the Cleveland Browns for Deshaun Watson?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (29:39):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, but that's one of the greatest contracts in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
James.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
For Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Sure, but that's what it represents. He represents his client.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
But does it also like almost enforced Jerry Jones's stance
of maybe.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
This guy you you still have to deal with his agent, James,
whether you think he's you know, incapable of doing a
deal you're supposed to. You're bound by dealing with agents
in these situations. But I can't criticize the deal he
got for Deshaun Watson. I mean, it's crazy they got
(30:21):
it all guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Blame the Browns.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It's one of the best deals in sports history for
the client.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
But thank you for the phone call. Yeah, I'm not blaming.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I mean, do I like it for the NFL or
the Browns or what it means?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But Cleveland had to give him an offer that he
couldn't refuse. Jerry needs to give Michael Parsons, an agent
his agent, an offer he can't refuse. Bruce in Washington,
Good morning, Bruce. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (30:55):
Gory dan A. Last week he read a short letter
about rating Todd for forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yes, I'm that guy.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
I'm that guy.
Speaker 12 (31:06):
I'm the one who wrote the letter. I just wanted
to let you know indeed, I am a fan. You
questioned whether or not I was the writer was a fan? Yes,
I am a fan. I just want you to know that.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
All right, Well, thank you, Bruce.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And he wrote a letter and said that he wasn't
going to listen, and I berated Todd for forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Is that right, Bruce? Is that kind of the context
of the letter.
Speaker 14 (31:32):
I don't think.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
I don't think I said I wasn't going to listen.
I listen every day. I just think you're a big
proponent of content. What you should be. And I just
think laying on Todd so thick is not good radio.
That's that's all. That's all I wanted you to know.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
All right, Well, thank you, Bruce.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
God And that was a good signal. Usually I would
have got disconnected and hung up on.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like a little while ago to the end. I did.
I tried. I tried to motion to Marvin hang up.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
There's a little wink between the time.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Fine, Hey, Bruce, Bruce has an opinion, and I'd respect that.
I'll listen to it. I mean, I don't agree with it.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
You don't have to your show. Just one man's opinion. Yeah,
the right opinion. But that's great. You don't have to
go with it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah. I don't know if it was forty minutes that
i'd be rated you.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I think it was more like thirty three and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, because my over under is usually around thirty
you know, when I start to be Rachel.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
That's about it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's about right, all right, all right, how about we
take a break. Still got to come up with the
poll question here more phone calls as well. Got our
play of the day next here in the Dan Patrick Show.
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I'm looking at the client list of Micah Parson's agent,
Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson, Justin Field, c J. Stroud, Derek Stingley,
Kyle Pitts, Jalen Ramsey. Micah Parsons got a pretty good list.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Here, and.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
He did get Deshaun Watson that deal. I mean, we
can look at it and say it's a terrible deal.
It's a terrible deal for the Browns. It's not a
terrible deal for Deshaun Watson and the agent who got
that deal for him. Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Tom in North Carolina? Hi, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (34:23):
I'm on the DP.
Speaker 14 (34:24):
I'm kind of switch gears from the Cowboys. We we
still want to talk about ESPN a little bit, bringing
in Bill Belichick u n C. He's having his the
beginning of the year press conference today at twelve o'clock.
So I was thinking, I was looking at the schedule,
looking at it. I'm wondering if you're thinking the same
thing I am about. Is it going to be a
(34:46):
circus like atmosphere, kind of like Deon at Colorado? The
Deon opened up against TCU. Bill Belichick's opened up against TCU.
It's an ESPN standalone game night game, and the next week,
the next week's games on ESPN Plus.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
And so oh, they're gonna They're gonna show North Carolina
because of Belichick. But Belichick doesn't have any charisma. Dion's
got that. Dion has the look. Dion's prime Uh, Dion's
son is the quarterback, Travis Hunter is out there. I
mean you had tune in factor there, and you know
Dion knew how to show up on the sidelines. His look.
(35:28):
Bill doesn't care about that. I mean, we're gonna tune in.
You're gonna see Belichick a couple of cutaways, and he's
gonna be the same Bill Belichick that you've always you know,
we've seen for decades now. Nothing exciting about him. We're
gonna tune in and see if his team's any good.
You tuned in to watch Dion on the sidelines to
go along with Travis Hunter and Shador. You know, it
(35:50):
was a package that you got. It was something we
had not seen before. And the media and a lot
of members of the media have covered Dion, been teammates
with Eon, have relationships with Dion, and they came in
in a show of support. But this was also a
big ticket item North Carolina. I don't know if they're
any good. Do they have a player who could be
(36:12):
a Heisman candidate or two? Well that's what Dion had
at Colorado. But thanks for the phone call. Colton in Utah, Hi, Colton,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (36:24):
Addie dan Patrick and the Danetz five to eleven, two
twenty five. I just had a quick question about, uh,
this Michael Parsons and Deshaun Watson. Yeah, this, this agent
is getting all these guys these great contracts. But how
many contracts that fell through the cracks? Cracks maybe because
(36:44):
of greed and is it, you know, kind of the
same thing with the nil in college.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I don't think this deal's falling apart because Michael Parsons
wants to be the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL.
I mean, I would be so prized if Jerry is
surprised that Michael Parsons is gonna want that kind of money.
Jerry may in fairness to Jerry and doing it the
old fashioned, old school way, maybe they did agree to
(37:14):
something in principle. I bet I don't know that. I'm
just trying to be fair to both sides. Maybe they
did agree we're gonna we're gonna settle on this five
year deal. Okay, okay, but it's still not real. It's
a conversation you're having and you're supposed to have it
with the agent, and then the market changed. Yeah, And
(37:37):
what I just always keep in the back of my
head with things like this. Is we're talking about a
league in which you have assigned contract that a team
can just tear up because they don't like it anymore,
and they could just cut people.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
You just cut somebody whenever you want out. Well, it's sorry,
you're not working out for us anymore. So this agreement
that we had doesn't work. We're just gonna cut you.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
That is that to me.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It stop with all that, all the handshake agreement stuff,
and hey, what about men being men as we look
at each other in the eye.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Get out of here, dude, what are you talking about?
The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. That's it.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You can talk about a contract and it's potentially worth this.
I want to know guaranteed money. That's it because after that,
you know, an owner can say, see you you know
that last year, the last two years. See, you don't
care about it. Let's see, Michael in South Bend and Seeton,
we got to come up with the poll question. Well,
(38:29):
first hour is almost over, so maybe we'll wait till
the second hour.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Wow for our first hour, man, and we breezed through here.
Speaker 16 (38:36):
All right, Hey, Mike, Hey Dan, I just want to
follow up on Bruce from Washington. You know, with guys,
we just say it how it is to each other,
and that just means you're life. With girls, everything's fake.
They all act fake to one another.
Speaker 14 (38:53):
But you know, as.
Speaker 16 (38:53):
Guys, we just we give each other a crap and
that just means you're one of the guys. So Fritzy, congrats,
you're one of the guys. Also, I wanted to pie
in the face bet Notre Dame in the regular season
goes undefeated. I'm I'm a domer. I think they'll win
the Natty, but wanted to see if anyone else would
take up on that bet of they go undefeated in.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
The regular anybody want a piece of Michael south Bend
Notre Dame goes undefeated? Oh, I got two hands up, Paul.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
I'm a Notre Dame fan, but they always have a
Marshall Northern Illinois slip up.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Okay, any going to run all right? Seaton?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
I love Notre Dame, but their schedule is if I'm
not mistaken, I think they have a pretty brutal schedule
this year. I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
All right, So we got two two takers for at
Marvin three four.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
Why not.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Paul just convinced me.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Bill in South Carolina, Hi Bill.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Hey, good morning, Dan and gentlemen, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Good?
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Good, Look, I just wanted to try to add a
little context to the my Parsons thing. There was some
extensive I guess I'm a little disappointed that between everybody there,
you haven't done some research. But there was some extensive
reporting in the Ringer on August the i UH, and
(40:16):
they referred to an ex statement by Micah regarding this
conversation with Jerry Jones back in the spring, and he
said he did not understand. You know, I don't want
to quote it, but it's easy to find.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
You can.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
You can look it up and do some context here.
But he said it, you know, clearly was not a
quote negotiation. And when Micah and his agents tried to
follow up specifically with the Cowboys after that conversation, the
Cowboys went radio silent. So, you know, they Michaeh and
(40:52):
his eight UH and follow up and make whatever they
talked about official if it was good enough, and just
by you know, quoting Jerry's.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, we're only getting Jerry's side of this though, all right,
thank you Bill. Maybe we get the other side of this,
Maybe we don't. One hour of the Books, two more
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They also sent me some Happy Gilmore to golf balls
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as well. I did ask Sandler about this. I said, hey,
can you get me one of those putters? He goes,
what putters? I said, the Happy Gilmore to putters. I said,
Calloway's putting these out. He goes, I don't know anything
about it. I go, you're Happy Gilmore. And so next
thing I know, I've got a Happy go More to
(01:27):
putter that just showed up.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
See shape like a hockey stick on them. Yeah, bottom,
that's great. Yeah, it's a pretty sharp look.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But now thank you to Calloway or Happy Gilmore or
Sandler who sent that to me. All Right, we have
a play of the day, poll question, stat of the Day,
all of that forthcoming. I don't really have a direction
with my compass here today. I don't know if there's
anything that's really right off the bat. You know, we're
(01:54):
still trying to figure out. We're work shopping what is
the lead story today. I'm trying to hold off on
Michah Parsons and Jerry Jones, although it's getting a little
more interesting. Jane Slater did a really good job NFL
Network Cowboys reporter talking to Jerry Jones, and we were
learning about a handshake deal that he had with Micah Parsons.
(02:16):
There's one problem with this, And Mike Florio of Pro
Football Talk, he pointed this out a couple of days ago.
Owners and players aren't supposed to negotiate contracts. You are
supposed to go through an agent who is certified by
the NFL Players Association. Well, Jerry's been doing this for
a long long time and nobody called him on it.
(02:38):
But now he's saying at a handshake agreement with Michael
Parsons and then all of a sudden he doesn't have
a handshake agreement. Here is Jane Slater talking to Jerry
Jones about how he does business.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So how would you describe a deal getting, so to speak,
done and then walked away from.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I bought the Dallas Cowboys with a handshake. Took about
thirty seconds, and I gave the numbers, shook hands. The
details we worked out later. As a matter of fact,
one of the details involved a lot of money and
we had to flip a coin over that. But the
fundamental I'm buying and you're going to sell it to
me for that range, that's done and those are done
(03:22):
with eye contact and handshake.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
So is there it just so you understand why.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
The way that I communicate with people that I negotiate with.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So let's leave it at that.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
There is no question that in the case of a
player or contract, you have to have it in writing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
All parties do.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
We have a contract in writing, Yet we're still talking
about renegotiating it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So so much for that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, once again, you have to go through an agent.
I don't know what happened, you know, forty years ago
when he bought the Cowboys, when I don't know, did
you write it down on a napkin?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Here's our number and there's your number, and that's not
an official deal. Just so you know, a handshake agreement
is not going to hold up. Maybe, Michael Parson said,
and I've been in negotiations before where you get somebody
who kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Gives you the vagaries.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You know, it's kind of gray area, like yeah, you know,
how about yeah, let me think about it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'll get back to you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That doesn't mean now I can shake your hand when
I leave. That doesn't mean I'm shaking your hand in
agreeing to you. It's let me talk to people. I mean,
that's why you have an agent. Jerry doesn't like dealing
with agents, and then he didn't know Michaeh Parson's agent's name,
or it acted like he didn't a couple of weeks ago. Okay,
(04:50):
he does know who he is, because he's negotiated a
contract with him with another member of the Dallas Cowboys.
But Jerry handshake agreement and Michaeh Parson is kind of
renegging on that deal that you agreed to. I'd like
to hear Michael Parson's portion of this, but you know,
to Michaeh Parson's credit, he hasn't said much. He's just like, hey,
(05:12):
I'm trying to get this done, and we're not going
to get this done now you can trade me. That's
really all we've heard from him. I don't know what
the deal is. I know where they're probably going to
land and it's probably going to be forty two million
dollars a year. And is he going to be available
week one? Jerry didn't think so, and he said, yeah,
(05:35):
this is urgent.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But James Slater asking him about doing his business and
how he does this business, Jerry did talk about Micah's
contract saga, Well, we need to become urgent.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I mean clearly you want him on the field for
against Lenadelphia. I wanted to become urgent that we need
to get some something resolved one way or another that
he's on the field against Philadelphia.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Again, your definition of urgent is not necessarily I don't
get believe he gave a definition of urgent.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Okay, and so I'll stay urgent.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Any competence that he will be on the field good front.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Door again, No, absolutely not. That has to a big
part of that is his decision.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
How would I know that. I'm just saying no, but
I'm urgent. Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm not sure he understood the question do you think
he's going to be there week one? And then he
said no. I don't know if he thought, hey, is
there any chance that he won't be there? And I
thought that's where Jerry was answering no, but trying to
sort this out. I still think a deal gets done.
I don't think you're trading him. I haven't heard anybody
(06:51):
say anything about anybody offering anything for Mica Parsons. Now,
if you have that, okay, now we can have a discussion.
It's like Trey Hendricks with the Bengals or Terry mclauren. Now,
I've seen websites where they'll go potential landing spots for well,
Terry McLaurin. I've seen six teams, but that would just
(07:11):
be because they need a wide receiver. I don't know
if they've offered anything. Micah Parsons, I haven't heard anything
proposed trades. What if the Bears give two first round
picks and a fourth round pick? There's no reporting attached
to this, And the same with Trey Hendrickson. Has anybody
made an offer to the Bengals, because it doesn't sound
(07:33):
like anybody has. Now, if somebody does, now we can
have a conversation that this is real, that he could
possibly go.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, I love that, you know, Like we spend a
lot of time talking about Jerry Jones is a brilliant businessman.
He's brilliant. He's a genius, so great at business. Obviously
he's very successful at business. Yeah, but he's a genius businessman.
Like Jay, how about how'd you get through the finer
points of getting the Cowboys? We shook hands and flipped
a coin. That's wow. I had no idea that that's
(08:06):
what goes into being such a genius.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We flipped a coin. I can do both of those.
I can shake your hand and I can flip a coin.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Really you did it. Don't think I could get the
Cowboys with that strategy.
Speaker 9 (08:20):
Yes, Paulie, I somewhat respect what Jerry Jones is saying that,
you know, a handshake deal can start a deal. And
if that handshake deal, though, was last March, things have changed.
Things have changed a lot with the defensive end position.
That handshake is no longer apt with with with yeah, Parsons, No,
I'm saying not with Parsons, but with all the other
players who have signed. It changed the entire market. So
(08:41):
that handshake deal does not hold up what it gives
to the agent four months.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But you should have signed him to the contract back
in March exactly. If you do that now you're binded.
You're bound by that. Then then it's different. If I
shake your hand and say, hey, you know what we'll
get back?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I like you shook.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Hands and you agreed and principal something. I got to
get the paperwork done then, because I know I got
these other defensive players who are going to be signing
for more money right away. It's urgent, he said. He's urgent.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Why didn't you get the paperwork done?
Speaker 8 (09:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
See, well this is why he doesn't like agents, because
it's possible. Michael Parsons was like, man, that's a good deal,
let's sign And the agent said.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
What's the rush?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why don't we just let the season play out. A
general manager wouldn't allow this to happen. A GM would
have said, we'll drop the papers. We're ready to go,
We'll drop the papers.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yes, right.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Nobody likes middleman, but man, do they come in handy
sometimes with things like this.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But you're required to deal with the agent. You're required
so you can't say, hey, we're kind of loose when
it comes to negotiating contract. But if I decide that
I'm going to cut you, then you know, do I
have to live up to the contract that we signed
or just a handshake agreement? Like you can't pick and choose.
(10:04):
But the NFL has allowed Jerry to do this for
decades now. He's the most powerful man in the NFL.
But a handshake agreement. I'd have to know more about
this from Michael Parson's perspective, but you know, it's just
the further along this goes, it just becomes like this abyss.
(10:25):
You go in and you're like, I don't know if
I'll get out anytime soon. And that's why I always
have trepidation when it comes to discussing this. Am I
humored by Jerry Jones? Sometimes? Yes, I am, but not
a good way. It just he should speak less, He
should have his son speak maybe more. But you know
(10:46):
when you give us these colloquialisms and you know, a handshake,
and that's the way we used to do it, and
that's the good old days and that's not the good
old days now. Michael Parsons has an agent. Deal with
the agent. That's when you get something that's official. That's
when you're going to get something on paper, that's gonna
be something where you sign. That's when you have something
(11:08):
that is binding. Yes, tod, I can appreciate.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
What Jerry saying as far as eye contact and you know,
talking directly to one another. But why does it have
to be instead of an agent being present? Why can't
you have both things. We're gonna talk and we're gonna
look at each other, we're gonna be in the same room.
But I also want to have my attorney. I got
to protect myself. My agent knows legal things in terms that.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I'm not familiar with. That's why he pays him part
of his contract.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Jerry loves to do this.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Speaking to a former Cowboy yesterday, he loves to be
there and just talk to you.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's just you and me. We'll just talk and he
can convince you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
To maybe take something that you shouldn't take, or less
than you should take, or well we're gonna take now
the language that was given to me yesterday by a
former cowboy. He's like, Jerry will say, you know, well,
we'll worry about that later. You can't do that, not
with something like this. You're talking two hundred million dollars
with Micah Parsons. Probably it can't be. Will take care
(12:09):
of that a little later whenever.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
We need to.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Don't worry about that. No, no, no, we got to
worry about all those things. That's part of the problem
with the Cowboys' attention to detail. Maybe that's why you
haven't been back to the super Bowl in thirty years.
Preseason football ramps up coming up tomorrow. Shardor Sanders gets
the start for the Cleveland Browns. I think he's the
(12:32):
only quarterback who's healthy right now he gets the start.
That'll be fun. ESPN is acquiring NFL Network, also Red Zone.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I go back eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The great writer Jim Miller, who wrote the ESPN Book,
reported that ESPN was trying to reestablish a positive relationship
with the NFL. This is eight years ago the network
was gauging whether to abandon the NFL. They were having
a hard time being a business partner, according.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
To Jim Miller. Now they're all in.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Everybody's all in on this, and I know, you know,
the journalist in me talks about or would talk about,
or would point out the conflict of interest. But ESPN
can't be any further in bed with the NFL when
it comes to their coverage. Are they going to look
the other way with whatever negative story that comes up?
(13:35):
They've probably already done that. I mean, go back to
when I was there on ESPN Radio and we were
talking about Playmakers, which was a fictional show and it
was about the NFL. The NFL called up and talked
to my boss and said, hey, take it off your network,
and they did. I don't know if anybody's going to
(13:59):
hold the NFL their feet to the fire. I mean,
I'd liked I hope that there's people. Mike Florio is
one of the few people who will challenge the NFL,
and everybody's in bed with the NFL. All networks have
partnerships here. As far as a conflict of interest, I
(14:22):
think that's long gone. I think there's certain things that
you're just not going to cover. I don't know how
deep the ESPN went in on the mess of the
NFL Players Association. I know Florio did, A couple of
people did, but I don't know if you know that's
we're in the content business. That's what Jimmy Pataro, who
(14:46):
runs ESPN, they're in the content business. Outside the lines
gone with Bob Lee, Jeremy Shapp. I mean you have
a couple of investigative reporters like E sixty is a
monthly magazine type feature. I'm talking about day to day
looking at stories, giving you both sides of the stories.
And maybe you don't care about it, you know, maybe
(15:09):
you know being a dinosaur. I do because the NFL
should be held accountable for certain things. But the NFL,
I'm sure does not want. Hey, we own part of
you ten percent. Well, the NFL has probably owned a
lot of ESPN for a long period of time. It's
(15:29):
just not official, that's all. But you know, good for
you know, the mother ship getting that partnership. They've they've
done a good job in establishing. I think they get
three more games. You know, they want to get a
Super Bowl red zone. You're going to get that with
Scott Hansen. So I you know, a lot of moving
(15:50):
parts there. It's a big deal and it's been in
the works for it was on again, off again, now
on again for years. They've talked about this because the
owners were worried about NFL Network and now now it's
ESPN's problem. But there's a lot of great people over there.
(16:11):
They just gutted the place that was the disappointing part
of it at a lot of great football people. They
streamlined it. So then they were going to sell it,
and I said, well, ESPN's going to buy it now
ESPN and their reporters and I don't know how you
cross pollinate, but that that happened and it's a big, big,
big deal for certainly ESPN and NFL Network. All right,
(16:35):
let's take a break. We'll settle on a poll question
just getting started here. We're back after this. On the
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Speaker 2 (17:26):
Settle on a poll question, Got our play of the
day coming up? Eight seven, seven to three. DP show
email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at
dp show. Let me see Mike, and Florida leads us off.
Good morning, Mike, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (17:43):
Hey, good morning guys. Six foot two, nine point six Hey, thanks, So,
I just wanted to kind of look at this from
the other side. I know this isn't going to be
the popular opinion here. But in that conversation that Jerry
Jones is actually having with Jane Slader, he talks about
the hand shake stuff and the coin flip stuff, but
at the end he also says, if you hear him,
(18:04):
he says that there is a contract sign like he
says that the player agreements have to be written, and
then he says, we had a written agreement. But so
much for that. So let me ask you, what is
the actual incentive of signing Michael Parsons early to pay
him forty five million dollars a year. I don't I
don't understand you know what the big deal is.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Okay, let's say I signed Michael Parsons back in March.
The number then was thirty four million, So what is
the number now? It's probably going to be at least
forty two million dollars because Michaeh. Parsons will ask for
more money than TJ want and Miles Garrett. That's where
(18:46):
you signed somebody early. So now I save eight million
dollars and then the next year I would have gotten
him at thirty four Maybe it goes up to thirty five.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Well, maybe it's going.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
To go from forty two to forty three, so it's
another eight million, and then another eight million, and then
maybe another eight million. So if I have the logic
there of signing him early at thirty four, maybe I'm
saving over thirty million dollars over the lifetime of this
contract here. That's why I would have signed him right away,
(19:20):
knowing that TJ. Watt was going to get paid, Max
Crosby was going to get paid, Miles Garrett got paid.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You know what the price is going to be?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Yeah, PAULI just to play devil's advocate here, because agents
do surptitious things. What if they had a handshake deal
and a light paperwork deal in March and then the
agent said, don't sign it, let it breathe, let other
guys get signed and let the market change, and we'll
wait till August when there's pressure on them to sign
you and we're going to get you that six million
(19:51):
more per season. It's very possible Jerry Jones and Parsons
and his agent had a deal in place six months
ago and the agent said no, no, let the market pay out.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Did some with some official no.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
But you know, I mean, like an agreement in place
until it's inked it means nothing. Yes, it's very possible.
The agents saw the te leaves of TJ. Watt and said,
we'll sign after what.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
If if he's a and he is a respected agent,
you know what the market is.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
But signing early doesn't help your client. It helps the
next client.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, but if you're Jerry Jones and we have a
handshake agreement, no, let's let's sign the contract right now.
The agent's doing what the agent's supposed to do, and
let's look down the road. You don't, you don't want
to sign something, and all of a sudden you go,
I'm making eight million dollars less than TJ.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, those guys are coming up, and you know
Pittsburgh's going to sign them, and the Raiders are going
to sign Max Crosby. You're next. Why wouldn't you just wait,
wait until they've signed, then you sign?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, all right, Jerry Jones said, we have a contract
in writing it, were still talking about renegotiating it so
so much for that is the rule. Once you write
it down on paper, it has to be signed. Or
can you write it down on paper and then continue
to negotiate. I mean you can be sorry, that somebody
typed it up. But that doesn't mean that you can't
still be like m I want to tweak this.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I had a contract at ESPN where they just had
a blank space and then a blank space and blank
space for how much you're getting paid vacation and they
you know, so they just put in the numbers.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
The contract's the same, they just put in the numbers.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't know if that's the case with Michaeh Parsons,
where hey, we got a contract. We may not have
hard numbers in there, but we got a handshake agreement
that this is the general vicinity of where we're going
to land. Micah Parsons agent did the right thing not signing.
(21:57):
But Jerry, if you had an handshake agreement, you don't
let somebody out the door. It's the same thing when
he was buying the Cowboys. Hey you want to sell okay,
handshake agreement. Let's get this done right now. If you've
ever bought a car, or a house, or you know,
(22:17):
something with a big purchase, you you know, handshake agreement.
Yeah I'm gonna buy it. That doesn't mean anything. Hey,
we gotta you know, we're gonna sell this to you
for one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
All right, all right, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Hey, we want to sign you for this, okay, handshake agreement,
all right, doesn't mean anything. And Jerry's not supposed to
be negotiating with Michaeh. Parsons to begin with. All right,
spending way too much time on this, I apologize. I
(22:59):
do well out of my way to not talk the Cowboys.
But when you start to hear what Jerry's logic is,
and then there's certain things you have to comment on.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yes, see, well right, you know, going out of your
way to not talk about the Cowboys means not trying
to squeeze them into every show. When there's legitimate stories
happening and interesting things, you absolutely should talk about them. Yes,
But if it's a slow day, I don't tell you, hey,
let's discuss Dax's legacy. I'm not going to do that
(23:30):
to you.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But when it's something that's real that does affect the
rest of the NFL, you know, there's certain topics that
you know should be vetted.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I do think we should talk about Cede lambmoorph, but.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Joe Milton.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And the legacy of Trey Lance when he was a backup, quarterback,
and down. Yeah, the red zone situation is great. Scott Hansen, Uh,
you know, I don't think anything changes. You're just you're
you're buying NFL network.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's all. You won't see the Cowboys on there much.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, their coverage is going to be the same. I
read where somebody was looking at the deal with ESPN
and NFL Network and the NFL. Maybe there's more global
expansion due to ESPN with football.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
But I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I mean, you're dealing with a lot of money here,
and uh, I think it's a great deal for ESPN
for the value of ESPN and the NFL networks, you know,
continues to just gobble up it. You know, they're they're
pac man, They're just gobbling up everything. They're they're dominating,
taking over the sports world. Yes, that man.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Is There a lot of questions about that though, at
least I know for me, Yeah, that is there even
a line anymore between a league, the newsroom and the
marketplace in general? Is does that line even exist in
this instance? There's all kinds of antitrust questions to be asked.
There's if you're a rival broadcaster of ESPN. I know,
(25:18):
my hand is raised right now, be only interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
If you're Fox, Are you going hold on here?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I mean, ethics and journalism is the easiest part of it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
The rest of it is like geez man.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Fox should have bought NFL network, then they could be
best friends with the NFL.
Speaker 9 (25:38):
Yes, Paulin the big picture is all these networks have
partnerships with all these different brands and leagues, and there's
no upside to investigate them and bust them and take
them down for the lack of a better phrase, like
a journalistic phrase, and so if there's a story, they
lean against it until they have to cover it, when
it becomes so big that you have to cover something
(25:59):
and there's no way around it. But not initiating coverage,
initiating investigations that doesn't really happen anymore in the network
mill you Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And I don't know if you the fans even care
that's what they're banking on. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I mean I do, But it's just you have to
hold leagues people accountable. I mean, I want to know
what we're watching is real and we're investigating this and
is there a problem there? And what's that mean? And
I just don't think you can sort of turn a
blind eye to it. I think you got to be fair.
(26:38):
You got to be fair to what you're covering and
give both sides to this investigative work there, like the
concussion lawsuit if that came up. Now, are they are
the networks really going to do a deep dive on this?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I don't think so. I would hope they would.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I just don't mean just from experience, they probably wouldn't. Yes, well,
I've been right.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's not a lot different than the SEC network isn't
going to do a deep dive into corruption in the SEC,
and that's an ESPN property. You know, there is no
any like anyone talking about how journalism is important right
now is joking.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And maybe you know the last journalist is Pablo Torre.
He's on an island, but he's doing investigative work. I
appreciate it. Well, granted it's Belichick and his girlfriend, but
he's still doing He's still asking questions and hopefully I'll
continue to do so for the next two and a
(27:46):
half years. Where you just asked the questions that need
to be asked. It's probably the reason why the Commissioner
of the NFL hasn't been on this show for over
a decade. There's no upside for him to come on
and answer questions. I mean, I'll still be fair to
him and fair, you know, to the office. But there's
certain things that you know, you asked questions, Rob Manfred
(28:09):
Adam Silver, come on. It's not always easy questions, but
I'll continue we continue to ask.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Yeah, Paulie, this reminds me of the NCAA offices over
the past twenty five years, where they rarely investigate anybody
or initiate investigations like a Yahoo investigation of Reggie Bush,
and USC has to fall in their lap for them
to enforce it.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Yea.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
It's like, why would they be in the business of
taking down USC or Alabama or any Notre Dame or
anybody that's not good for business.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We did more investigative work on Reggie Bush's heisman. We
found the heisman. They couldn't find his heisman. All of
a sudden, I said to Pauline, find Reggie Bush's heisman.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It took him three days.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
It's under a desk in an office in San Diego.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, Uh, James in Texas, Hi, James, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 13 (29:06):
Hey, brother, how are you doing?
Speaker 14 (29:06):
Man?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Good?
Speaker 13 (29:08):
Hey, I just wanted to weigh in on this Michael
Parsons agent saying that's going on right now. His agent
was fired by Tie Higgins because of the negotiations going
so poorly. And he's also responsible for the Deshaun Watson contract,
which is the worst contract ever done in you know,
(29:28):
NFL history. So is it possible that he's more to
blame for this than.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, wait a minute, did he get the contract from
the Cleveland Browns for Deshaun Watson?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (29:39):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, but that's one of the greatest contracts in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
James.
Speaker 13 (29:46):
For Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Sure, but that's what it represents. He represents his client.
Speaker 13 (29:53):
But does it also like almost enforced Jerry Jones's stance
of maybe.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
This guy you you still have to deal with his agent, James,
whether you think he's you know, incapable of doing a
deal you're supposed to. You're bound by dealing with agents
in these situations. But I can't criticize the deal he
got for Deshaun Watson. I mean, it's crazy they got
(30:21):
it all guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Blame the Browns.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It's one of the best deals in sports history for
the client.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
But thank you for the phone call. Yeah, I'm not blaming.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I mean, do I like it for the NFL or
the Browns or what it means?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But Cleveland had to give him an offer that he
couldn't refuse. Jerry needs to give Michael Parsons, an agent
his agent, an offer he can't refuse. Bruce in Washington,
Good morning, Bruce. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (30:55):
Gory dan A. Last week he read a short letter
about rating Todd for forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yes, I'm that guy.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
I'm that guy.
Speaker 12 (31:06):
I'm the one who wrote the letter. I just wanted
to let you know indeed, I am a fan. You
questioned whether or not I was the writer was a fan? Yes,
I am a fan. I just want you to know that.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
All right, Well, thank you, Bruce.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And he wrote a letter and said that he wasn't
going to listen, and I berated Todd for forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Is that right, Bruce? Is that kind of the context
of the letter.
Speaker 14 (31:32):
I don't think.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
I don't think I said I wasn't going to listen.
I listen every day. I just think you're a big
proponent of content. What you should be. And I just
think laying on Todd so thick is not good radio.
That's that's all. That's all I wanted you to know.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
All right, Well, thank you, Bruce.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
God And that was a good signal. Usually I would
have got disconnected and hung up on.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Like a little while ago to the end. I did.
I tried. I tried to motion to Marvin hang up.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
There's a little wink between the time.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Fine, Hey, Bruce, Bruce has an opinion, and I'd respect that.
I'll listen to it. I mean, I don't agree with it.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
You don't have to your show. Just one man's opinion. Yeah,
the right opinion. But that's great. You don't have to
go with it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah. I don't know if it was forty minutes that
i'd be rated you.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I think it was more like thirty three and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, because my over under is usually around thirty
you know, when I start to be Rachel.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
That's about it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's about right, all right, all right, how about we
take a break. Still got to come up with the
poll question here more phone calls as well. Got our
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I'm looking at the client list of Micah Parson's agent,
Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson, Justin Field, c J. Stroud, Derek Stingley,
Kyle Pitts, Jalen Ramsey. Micah Parsons got a pretty good list.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Here, and.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
He did get Deshaun Watson that deal. I mean, we
can look at it and say it's a terrible deal.
It's a terrible deal for the Browns. It's not a
terrible deal for Deshaun Watson and the agent who got
that deal for him. Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Tom in North Carolina? Hi, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (34:23):
I'm on the DP.
Speaker 14 (34:24):
I'm kind of switch gears from the Cowboys. We we
still want to talk about ESPN a little bit, bringing
in Bill Belichick u n C. He's having his the
beginning of the year press conference today at twelve o'clock.
So I was thinking, I was looking at the schedule,
looking at it. I'm wondering if you're thinking the same
thing I am about. Is it going to be a
(34:46):
circus like atmosphere, kind of like Deon at Colorado? The
Deon opened up against TCU. Bill Belichick's opened up against TCU.
It's an ESPN standalone game night game, and the next week,
the next week's games on ESPN Plus.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
And so oh, they're gonna They're gonna show North Carolina
because of Belichick. But Belichick doesn't have any charisma. Dion's
got that. Dion has the look. Dion's prime Uh, Dion's
son is the quarterback, Travis Hunter is out there. I
mean you had tune in factor there, and you know
Dion knew how to show up on the sidelines. His look.
(35:28):
Bill doesn't care about that. I mean, we're gonna tune in.
You're gonna see Belichick a couple of cutaways, and he's
gonna be the same Bill Belichick that you've always you know,
we've seen for decades now. Nothing exciting about him. We're
gonna tune in and see if his team's any good.
You tuned in to watch Dion on the sidelines to
go along with Travis Hunter and Shador. You know, it
(35:50):
was a package that you got. It was something we
had not seen before. And the media and a lot
of members of the media have covered Dion, been teammates
with Eon, have relationships with Dion, and they came in
in a show of support. But this was also a
big ticket item North Carolina. I don't know if they're
any good. Do they have a player who could be
(36:12):
a Heisman candidate or two? Well that's what Dion had
at Colorado. But thanks for the phone call. Colton in Utah, Hi, Colton,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15 (36:24):
Addie dan Patrick and the Danetz five to eleven, two
twenty five. I just had a quick question about, uh,
this Michael Parsons and Deshaun Watson. Yeah, this, this agent
is getting all these guys these great contracts. But how
many contracts that fell through the cracks? Cracks maybe because
(36:44):
of greed and is it, you know, kind of the
same thing with the nil in college.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I don't think this deal's falling apart because Michael Parsons
wants to be the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL.
I mean, I would be so prized if Jerry is
surprised that Michael Parsons is gonna want that kind of money.
Jerry may in fairness to Jerry and doing it the
old fashioned, old school way, maybe they did agree to
(37:14):
something in principle. I bet I don't know that. I'm
just trying to be fair to both sides. Maybe they
did agree we're gonna we're gonna settle on this five
year deal. Okay, okay, but it's still not real. It's
a conversation you're having and you're supposed to have it
with the agent, and then the market changed. Yeah, And
(37:37):
what I just always keep in the back of my
head with things like this. Is we're talking about a
league in which you have assigned contract that a team
can just tear up because they don't like it anymore,
and they could just cut people.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
You just cut somebody whenever you want out. Well, it's sorry,
you're not working out for us anymore. So this agreement
that we had doesn't work. We're just gonna cut you.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
That is that to me.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It stop with all that, all the handshake agreement stuff,
and hey, what about men being men as we look
at each other in the eye.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Get out of here, dude, what are you talking about?
The only thing that matters is the guaranteed money. That's it.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You can talk about a contract and it's potentially worth this.
I want to know guaranteed money. That's it because after that,
you know, an owner can say, see you you know
that last year, the last two years. See, you don't
care about it. Let's see, Michael in South Bend and Seeton,
we got to come up with the poll question. Well,
(38:29):
first hour is almost over, so maybe we'll wait till
the second hour.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Wow for our first hour, man, and we breezed through here.
Speaker 16 (38:36):
All right, Hey, Mike, Hey Dan, I just want to
follow up on Bruce from Washington. You know, with guys,
we just say it how it is to each other,
and that just means you're life. With girls, everything's fake.
They all act fake to one another.
Speaker 14 (38:53):
But you know, as.
Speaker 16 (38:53):
Guys, we just we give each other a crap and
that just means you're one of the guys. So Fritzy, congrats,
you're one of the guys. Also, I wanted to pie
in the face bet Notre Dame in the regular season
goes undefeated. I'm I'm a domer. I think they'll win
the Natty, but wanted to see if anyone else would
take up on that bet of they go undefeated in.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
The regular anybody want a piece of Michael south Bend
Notre Dame goes undefeated? Oh, I got two hands up, Paul.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
I'm a Notre Dame fan, but they always have a
Marshall Northern Illinois slip up.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Okay, any going to run all right? Seaton?
Speaker 4 (39:29):
I love Notre Dame, but their schedule is if I'm
not mistaken, I think they have a pretty brutal schedule
this year. I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
All right, So we got two two takers for at
Marvin three four.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
Why not.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Paul just convinced me.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Bill in South Carolina, Hi Bill.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Hey, good morning, Dan and gentlemen, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Good?
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Good, Look, I just wanted to try to add a
little context to the my Parsons thing. There was some
extensive I guess I'm a little disappointed that between everybody there,
you haven't done some research. But there was some extensive
reporting in the Ringer on August the i UH, and
(40:16):
they referred to an ex statement by Micah regarding this
conversation with Jerry Jones back in the spring, and he
said he did not understand. You know, I don't want
to quote it, but it's easy to find.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
You can.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
You can look it up and do some context here.
But he said it, you know, clearly was not a
quote negotiation. And when Micah and his agents tried to
follow up specifically with the Cowboys after that conversation, the
Cowboys went radio silent. So, you know, they Michaeh and
(40:52):
his eight UH and follow up and make whatever they
talked about official if it was good enough, and just
by you know, quoting Jerry's.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, we're only getting Jerry's side of this though, all right,
thank you Bill. Maybe we get the other side of this,
Maybe we don't. One hour of the Books, two more
to goo
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