Dan is excited about tonight's NBA Draft Lottery and speculates about the future of top prospect Victor Wembanyama. And he tries to imagine how the NBA Western Conference Finals will play out, and who will step up and be "him" in the series.
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Lakers at the Nuggets. It's Game one. The line started
out Lakers getting five and a half. It's up to
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six and a half according to DraftKings, and I don't
know if it'll go higher than that, but there's been
a little bit of a bump there for the Nuggets
going into Game one. We'll dissect that matchup. Coming up,
you have the NBA Draft Lottery tonight. The Pistons Rocket
Spurs have the best chance. Then you have the Charlotte Hornets,
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the Blazers, Magic Pacers, the Wizards, your Utah Jazz also
in there, the Dallas Mavericks. You have the Chicago Bulls
with a one point eight percent chance. Oklahoma City's in there,
Toronto's in there. New Orleans is in there at a
half percent. And we'll look at the best destination for
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Victor Wanbayama coming up in a little bit. Where is
it best for him? Where is it best for the NBA.
But we'll have that for you coming up as well.
Spend a lot of time last night watching my Kraken
lose to the Stars on your birthday. I know, I know,
had my Kracking sweatshirt on. I was all set to go.
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I'm watching and I'm waiting for some offense and there's
no offense to be had until the last minute. And uh,
it's always fun to watch playoff hockey Game seven hockey.
And now the Stars advanced to face Vegas. All right,
Seaton Poll question today, what are we going to go with?
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Speaker 3 (02:28):
I've got an option and Toddler's also thrown in a
couple two. Oh, if you'd like me throw mine out
or would you like to go right to the to do?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I would like you to throw yours in? Don't throw
it out? Yeah, okay, okay, you can do that, all right?
All right?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So I have who will be him in the Nuggets
Lakers series?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Who will be him?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Very hip?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yes, very hip? But you're really hipping in this show up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Austin Reeves was him earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Right, Unfortunately, we only have a spot for a couple
of names, and he's not one of them. He would
fall in the other category.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oka, say, Anthony Davis, Lebron James the Joker, Joker, Jamal Murray.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And then well Jamal unfortunately I think is going to
fall into other as well.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh is that rude?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, because I feel like I feel like the three
marquee names are Jokic, James Davis. Yeah, we only have
room for four options on a Twitter poll, and then
we're going to just put other in there. Other Yeah, yeah,
so you're Jamal Murray vote you would go another under
the other umbrella?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Who will be him?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Will be him? Who will be him? Tonight?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Tonight?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Just tonight in game one, because you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Know what, the next one, when's he heat Celtics.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We'll do it.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Who will be him for that series? Okay, we don't
have to do that today. We don't have We're going
to save that one.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
All right. It's the over undergame. You guys have been
very good at this. This according to DraftKings over under
points for Anthony Davis tonight, Todd, I'll start with you
twenty three and a half, Seaton.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Twenty seven and a half, Marvin twenty.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Five and a half, Paulie twenty six and a half.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's not a good start, twenty four eighteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Twenty two and a half over under Lebron James Marvin
twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And a half, Seaton twenty seven and a half, Paulie
twenty five to twenty eight and a half, twenty five
and a half half Okay, bloop Paulie. No, it's a
twenty five and a half closest without going over here
would get that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Over under for the Joker Tonight Pauline twenty and a half,
Marvin thirty and a half, Seating twenty seven and a half.
I hit with that happy okay, how about it? No, no, no,
it's not a birthday week. It was yesterday.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We're still in cake.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
That's in case this morning for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I walked back into the kitchen. I go, what do
you got? I thought it was the breakfast burrito left
over from yesterday. Seaton goes, I'm having carrot cake. Of
course you are. It's good for you. It's eight in
the morning. You know it's healthy. It's got carrots in there.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Over under Jamal Murray tonight didn't make the list. He's
under the other seating over under Jamal Murray twenty one
and a half.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Marvin twenty three and a half, Paulie nineteen and a half,
todd twenty two and a half.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Twenty four and a half. I like him twenty four
and a half. For other Jamal Murray, What other pole
questions do we have?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, Toddler, why don't you throw one of yours?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Out?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh boy?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
I find the NBA Draft lottery compelling, utterly unentertaining.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This is always you projecting dude, thank your problem.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Your pool questions are let me tell you something. The
last years anyway, and Jamie Gertz excluded, no one remotely
exciting is really on the daist there. And if they're
not into it and they can't get celebrities or top
players or anyone to be part of this, why should
I be that excited.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's the only reason.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
That's one of the main reasons I just put the
You know, I'm curious to see who gets the ping
pong bawl. Hopefully someone that's got a two percent chance
gets it. But no one's even contributing on their own teams.
It's like, let's get the associate marketing vice president of
player development to sit there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, what if they had just like the top Hooters
girl in every one of these cities.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
I would probably just watch that and they not watch
the game after.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yes, I think I'm back in the toddler on this one,
because we asked the NBA for the list of who's
representing each team at draft lottery, and it is a
lot of like executive vice president Jim Lipper. But then
there's Ben Wallace with the Pistons. At least that's got
some juice to it. But there's a celebrity fan have
him go there? Like, isn't Kevin Hard a six you know,
a fan of.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
A team or the Sixers? Aren't the loner? You know?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
He's available?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, see, I get maybe I'm just like overreacting to this,
but I've find the fact that Meodka is going to
be there fascinating. Yeah, he's the first time he's going
to be seen in public is at.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The draft lottery. Why isn't this a why are Well?
I'm gonna guess there's probably going to be some topics
off limits there when they go and talk to him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Maybe, but it's like, what, this is the first time
he's been seen since forever ago? Yeah, Like, dude, got
some questions. Man, Okay, maybe this is probably the worst
year for him to do it, since there's nobody interesting.
Mallory Eden's not out there, you know what I mean.
There's no Jamie Gertz, there's no but it's Eoka.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, so what have you been up to, coach? You're
on your third team in the calendar year. Can we
talk about it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah? Well, I didn't officially go to the nets. They
wouldn't let me kind of.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yeah, I'm just here to honor ping pong balls today.
I don't know what you got?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
What else do we have there? I find the lottery
interesting because it's, first of all, you've got a sure
thing in Victor Wan Bayama. He he's going to be
a generational talent, or at least we think he's going
to be. How many times have we had this though?
When you think of generational talents, obviously Lebron generational talent.
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And this is when you're going in the hype going in.
Lebron was going to change your franchise, and he did.
He changed basketball a zion, but he wasn't a sure thing.
You know, he was battling weight and he had a
knee injury, and we wondered he's undersized and he was
going to go in the NBA and change things. He
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hasn't yet. Who else would be on that list where
you go that guy can't now I'm talking the last
twenty years, last twenty years, Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I looked up Ben Simmons because he was really really
hot going to that draft, and there was nobody the
question who was the one pick? It was ninety five
percent positive about Ben Simmons. But I found a few
articles that question his some character questions, some effort questions,
and some definitely some shot questions, shooting ability questions, but
not a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I questioned all of them because he couldn't get his
team in the tournament. And I watched him play and
I go, he can't shoot, but he is six '
nine and he could run the floor, and I thought, okay,
can he develop a shot. I thought that he was
left handed, like I thought that he should be trying
to shoot left handed because he couldn't shoot right handed.
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And he was going to be the next Magic. Like
we're always waiting for the next Michael, we're also waiting
for the next Magic. And in fairness to how great
Magic was, you know, Penny Hardaway was probably as close
to Magic, and then he got injured. There but to
get somebody six ' eight, six ' nine running the point,
and then Magic developed into a dangerous shooter. But he
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didn't have a jump shot when he first got into
the league, but he didn't really need it. You watch
Ben Simmons and you go, how do you not get
your team in the tournament? First of all? Second of all,
didn't anybody pull you aside and say, hey, you learn
how to shoot? And then there was the attitude does
he really love basketball? That sort of surfaced at LSU. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
If there is any justice in this damn NFL universe, right,
can Portland please win the number one pick?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Okay? I had a dream last night.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Can we just get Dame a damn player and let
this dude win some games, just a reward for being loyal?
Can we please just make that happen?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I had a dream last night that Portland won the lottery. Dude, Yes,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, let's just throw it out in the universe and
let's just what would Aaron Rodgers say, We're manifesting it.
Let's manifest this Dame deserves it then, for finally, for
being loyal all this time, Dame deserves it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Ten and a half percent. Ten and a half percent
for Dame Lillard. You might have had a different dream
last night, but I was dreaming of Portland winning the lottery? Todd,
did you have that same dream last night?
Speaker 8 (10:55):
Exact dream?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:56):
Yes, Mark, next year, if the Lakers win the NBA title,
Trailblazers at Lakers Opening Night, let's go when.
Speaker 10 (11:05):
No, no, no, let's wait, let's wait, We're not I'm manifesting.
We're going into a dark place and we're manifesting. Why
are we in a dark place because Aaron Rodgers in
a dark place and he manifested.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, but I don't want to be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, but we're just trying to manifest this for dame
on behalf of day.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We want to make this happen. Yeah, all right, how
about just some positive thoughts? Yeah, that's all positive energy.
I don't have to go into a dark place.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah no, no, not not like metaphorically like he literally
went into a dark room for four days.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Who wants ayahuasca raised their hands. I'm in, I'm in, well,
carrot cake in iahwuasca. Let's get weird, let's get her,
you know what. Let me get Shay and Irving in here.
And I think we got a party going. Yeah, he's
making up stuff too. When's too early to have ayahuasca?
You know we had carrot cake at eight in the morning,
iawasca at nine thirty five o'clock somewhere.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
We kind of check what the room you'd uh?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What other poll questions do we have? Their possibilities? Todd
has a do you have a Sports Center tease today. Yeah,
I know you do because you sent it to me.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Twice all the time by accident.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah yeah, but that'll be a little bit later. I
want to tease that so we keep the audience getting
now no, no, I want to tease that like that
so the audience goes, I can't get out of my car.
I gotta wait for the Sports Center.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Tease exactly how everyone should react to.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What else do we have, Seaton, Well, you know we
could run down the draft lottery h and where you
want to see.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh, we'll do that in a little bit. Yeah, you'll
do that a little bit.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Any other sure things where you went into the draft
and you go, that guy's going to be great.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Yeah, Mark, what about Anthony Davis coming out and Charlotte
was like one in eighty one and they still didn't
get the number one pick and they had to setup
for Michael kidd Gilchris.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Uh yeah, another guy who couldn't shoot at all. Michael
kid Gil. I don't know about you, but when you
go into the NBA, I figured you better be able
to shoot a little bit because it is a shooter's league.
Everybody is shooting. Everybody thinks they can shoot and he
couldn't shoot. But I think his first game, didn't he
have a triple double. I think his first NBA game
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he had a triple double. I go all right, all right, kid, Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
We have a listener, David here. Through at Greg Odin.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
He was.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
He was a pretty hot thing coming out of college.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Then the conversation was just him and Kevin Durant, ye know,
one or the other. Yeah, and Greg and Kevin Durant
was just too thin. Yes, he's too scrunny. You're never
gonna make it at the next level. Also, people love
that Greg Odin. Didn't he break his wrist and shot
with his left hand. But yeah, yeah, I like that.
That's yeah, that's a guy. That's the way we do it. Yeah,
he could have played in the sixties. That's the way
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we did. Just put some tape on it, rubbed some
dirt on it. Yes, point, I know.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I'm splitting hairs here, but I think there's a difference
between surefire number one pick and generational talent where a
town celebrates the draft, like Patrick Ewing was that guy.
I think Shack was that guy when he came into
the league. You know, iverson was close. I mean the
buzz and the ability of him. When Philadelpha got him,
it was a celebration.
Speaker 11 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And then I would say Yoming in Houston, Lebron in Cleveland,
and then maybe, like we said, Ben Simmons was very hot,
but not as hot as Victor wen Bianna come into
the draft. I've heard no criticisms of this guy.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Zero. Yeah, and he's been playing with grownups. That's why
when Luca came in, Luca had been playing against grownups
since he was fifteen professionally, and when Bayama, who is
what eighteen nineteen, now he's been playing against grownups. I
don't know if the competition is at the level that
it was for Luca who he was playing against, probably not.
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But when Bayama has touch, has handled, runs the floor.
His mom was a basketball player, his mom's dad was
a basketball player. I think his father was a track athlete.
So it's it's in his genes. And then you have
you know, Janice is talking. You know, there's a lot
of NBA players co signing on this saying, you know,
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this guy is going to be something special. Yes, Mark, it's.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
Probably the last thing since Lebron because NBA players were
talking about him junior year, senior year in high school.
And this feels like the same thing with the when Bayamba,
When Bayamba.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We'll work on that. It took us a while to
get Jannis's name. I think we first thought it was Giannis,
but you know, we learned how to pronounce that. Like
he became so good, we had to learn how to
pronounce it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I made an all Star team.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, like, okay, now Gombo this guy, yeah, just Greek freak.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let me take a break. We're just getting started. We'll
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Reminiscing about the last sure thing when it comes to
the NBA Draft Lottery, I think Zion was universally loved.
There were flaws in his game, but I think it
was more of that he was famous, he was marketable
social media, and when you're thinking about the players, who
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have benefited from social media. Zion is up there as
one of the first. You know, Lebron had very little criticism.
He was a past first guy. People did wonder about
hit the range on his jump shot, that he didn't
have a good look. He still doesn't have a good
looking jump shot. But he was a man amongst boys.
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I'm trying to think who else kind of fits into
that category where you go man, I don't have many
questions and one Byama is one of those players. It
feels like Tim Duncan was there. He spent four years
in college, and back then it wasn't a negative to
spend four years in college. Now if you do that,
it's like, what's wrong with him? But Tim Duncan had
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all the elements. I mean, when your nickname is the
big fundamental, I mean doesn't really bring excitement, but he has,
you know, one of the ten best careers in NBA history.
Maybe that'd be a nice landing spot for Victor Wan Bayama.
Now I don't know his personality. Does he want to
go big market? Does he care? He doesn't have a choice.
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But do you want to go to Detroit? Do you
want to go to Houston? Charlotte. Where does the NBA
want him to go? If I was going to place him,
let's see where would I place him? Uh, Detroit, Houston,
San Antonio, Charlotte, Portland, Orlando, Indiana, Washington, Utah. I was
(18:56):
going to place him, hmm, maybe the Dallas Mavericks that
you know, you put him with Luca? Now, could we
could we find out that we have the five best
players in basketball are not from the United States. If
Victor one Byama is that kind of generational talent. So
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you have Jokic, you have Giannis, you have Embiid, you
have Luca, Victor one Byama. Is there anybody in that category? Now?
I mean Lebron can be, but Lebron is not a
maybe a top five, top four talent now. But you know,
think about that, these players how they're brought up, and
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they're also brought you know, Tatum is in that conversation,
I would think, but they're brought up differently in how
they play. Because if you're a big guy, you're taught
how to handle, you're you're taught how to you're not
treated as a big guy, the traditional big guy. Now
that's changed. That's changed in the NBA because now you
have these bigger players who would be big men. They
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all want to handle the ball, they want to shoot,
so they're they're working on those skills earlier. And that's
what happens with a lot of these players who were
born outside the United States. Shay gilgis, Alexander's from Canada.
Canada's had a nice influx, and it feels like, do
you go back to, you know, Vince Carter in Toronto
or Damon Sodomaier. I don't think, you know, the Vancouver
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Grizzlies would have factored in, Steve Nash. I don't know
if there was any trickle down with that. Yes, Mark,
I think you had it right when you said Vince Carter. Yeah,
I think it's Vince Carter period. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
Yeah, there's a documentary called The Carter Effect on Vince
Carter's influence, Yeah on basketball in Canada.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Okay, like it's oh, it's Vince Carter. Yeah, all right,
back to you, all right, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
All right?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Eight seven seven three DP show email adder SDP at
Danpatrick dot com. Go through the last number one picks overall?
Can we go through those just to see if anybody
else stands out?
Speaker 9 (21:03):
Yes, Mark Are, we got Pollo, Ben Catro, Kate Cunningham.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Those are good players, they're not generational players.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Before that, Anthony Edwards in twenty twenty, Zion DeAndre Ayton,
Markel foulk He, Ben Simmons, Carl, Anthony Towns.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
All good players, not general well not all good players,
but they're nobody's a generational talent. There anybody else in it.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Ben Simmons, Karl, Anthony Towns, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, No, No,
Anthony Davis, Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I had concerns about Davis. He didn't score in the
National Title game, but he do you remember when I
came in and I said this guy maybe it was
his rookie year, and I said, he's going to be
the rookie of the year. I forget when it was.
It was early, but I watched him, and I watched
him one more night and I go, oh my god.
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It's almost like Patrick Ewing came into the NBA. We
didn't know that he could shoot like that because he
was not kind of it felt like John Thompson wanted
him to be the traditional big man, so he wasn't
pushed to the perimeter where he was going to take
those jump showns. He gets into the NBA and he
was more of an offensive weapon than defensive weapon. But
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I remember Anthony Davis and I remember talking to Chris
Mannix about it, and I go, this guy's unstoppable. He's
going to be He's going to be great. But I
didn't see that when he was at Kentucky. I mean
you'd see glimpses, and sometimes you don't stand out because
everybody stands out of Kentucky. But I think he was
what O for ten in the National Title game, and
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I thought, okay, he can play defense. I don't know
how good he is offensively, but I always love to
watch a big man shoot free throws, as weird as
that sounds, because then you're going to show me your
form and your touch, and you see something you know,
Anthony Davis' great form. Joe el Embiid like having a
big man who can shoot free throws having nice touch.
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That's something that stands out. Yes, Poum, I really think he.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Had to go back to three and O two Lebron
James and Yao Ming, where they they themselves dwarfed the
rest of the draft. Where was who got them? And
then it's an afterthought. That's what tonight feels like. With
the draft lottery. No one in the country can name
who doesn't know sports really well. Who's gonna be two
three and four? Yao Ming had a year of coverage
to himself, Lebron James had a year and a half.
Where it's like, and Victor Wenbion has been We've been
(23:32):
talking about on this show for over a year.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, I think I think Scoot is pretty good. Scoot
Henderson right Uh, he's been playing in the G League
and he is considered and he might be an Anthony
Edwards type player talent and he's gonna play right away.
But you know when when it's almost like you have
that guy and you go, god, he can do all
of those things, and it's usually it's a big guy
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where you go, gosh, did you see he can go inside, outside,
handle as all of those things. And when Bayama appears
to be that kind of talent there who else? Pelican
said they got a half a percent, Toronto's got one percent,
Oklahoma City one point seven percent. I guess if I
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was going to place him, I'd place him in Dallas
because of the star power that you would have there
and the possibility, and that would be that would be
fun Portland. You keep Dame in town, it'd certainly be like, okay,
all right, or do they go, yeah, we got Victor
one Byama, We're gonna trade Dame and we're gonna build
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around Victor one Byama. I mean, that's not crazy to
think that way because Victor one Bayama might be a
couple of years away and Dame is thirty two. But
I just don't see Dame finishing his career in Portland.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Put, I'm gonna throw out the Orlando magic. That's an
kind of somewhat of a international city, a lot of tourism,
a lot of travelers. If you played in Orlando, They've
got ban Cao, They've had some good draft picks over
the past couple of years that could support him. I
would say that Orlando would be the place I would
place him for the most exposure.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
When Shaq and Penny were there, they were cool, and
now you need to win first, be cool. But you
go ban Cao all the other guys that they drafted
in the past couple of years. I think he got
something and their international city because of the tourism.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But I mean you got Sugs and Wagner.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
International.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Orlando seems to be the place though, where good draft
picks go to waste the first four years of their
career and then eventually get traded or leave to a
good team.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That's actually the full name of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think the Orlando magic, where you go to waste
the first four years of your career.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Is essentially where it's like, yeah, okay, finally somebody else
is gonna.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Pick me up.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, get out of here. Dwight Howard essentially Tracy McGrady. Yeah,
Mark in Detroit, Hi, Mark, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Then?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Pleasure huge man?
Speaker 8 (26:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Before I get to the why Victor is a perfect
fit for the Pistons, I would like to say, screw Portland.
They passed on Jordan and they passed on kd so
why why should they get another shot at a generation
val Well.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
They can't screw this one up, though, Mark.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
They'll probably take Scoot Henderson and try to But Detroit
is the perfect fit.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Man.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
We have the best young back potential backcourt in the league.
God Willing Kate stays healthy, which he should after the
shin surgery. That he's needed some high school Jaydon and
Ivy Jalen Durham nineteen years old, already a beast at center.
We have a chance to either bring.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It in Villain the Dylan or Draymond a.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Round out the top five with Victor. Uh this, this
could be a Detroit dynasty. Tonight at the King Paul Ball,
it was our way.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Thank you, Mark, good luck with the dynasty. Yes, Marv,
relax easy.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
But you know what if you get Victor, you're thinking,
all right, we're about a couple of titles to whatever
city he goes to.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, dynasty, Yeah, relax, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Could start calling him Destois again, Dan the French.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
There you go, Yeah, you got the delivery. Yeah. Paulie
was saying, you know what, it'd be great if one
Bayama who is French went to the French Quarter went
to the New Orleans Pelicans a half a percent plus
joke a half and I love dad jokes. Yes, yes, Tim,
what about marketing wise?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
If you went to the Wizards, you could have him
standing next to the Washington Monument and the Lincoln.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
You can have him with all these famous.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Lage statues you have. You have poor zingis well, I
don't think they did that, did they?
Speaker 8 (27:58):
And he turns out he's not good enough to get
the time.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Okay, you start off fresh and have him just these
cool pictures of him next to all these giant things
all over the DC are landmarks.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Okay, little marketing there, he's the newest landmark. Okay, thank you. Right,
what's poll question we're going with today? Seed dah?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
We did the cringey who is him? Oh oh? And
then naked Nuggets Lakers series? Thank you early voting. Right now,
the Joker is at sixty five percent. He's running away
with it.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
DraftKings has odds on him to average a triple double
is plus one thirty. The Nuggets are favorites to win
the series. Let's see, how about this. Any player to
break Michael Jordan's single game Conference Finals scoring record, which
is fifty four points plus three thousand. This is the
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one that I would probably bet on. Joker and Lebron
to combine for at least twenty assists in Game one
plus four to twenty five.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That's a niche better.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It sounds like somebody gets twelve and somebody gets nine,
and I'm a winner if I only gambled. These prop
bits are all. They're very fun. Odds to win the
Stanley Cup. Anybody want to guess who is the favorite
now the final fourteen to win. By the way, Pauli goes,
(29:28):
I got a hockey question, but I don't want to
get yelled at if I bring up the question and
I said, this is a safe place. No, no, no, no, this
is a safe place.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I'm admittedly a casual hockey fan. I love the playoffs.
I watch a sport. I never play the sport shockingly,
but I have a hockey question that seems as rudimentary
as it gets.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, okay, you're ready?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Or should I save it? Because I need a hockey
person to answer for me? Maybe I could throw out
there they could answer, Oh, okay, So you know shift
changes in hockey. They happen in about forty five seconds.
There's a shift change they do when they clear the
when there's opportunities. They rarely show that they do the
shift change. You see the guys coming in and out
of the ice, off the ice. How do they happen
(30:09):
from the bench. How are they signaled in?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I think they don't they hit their sticks.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That would be interesting. I'd like to know does does
an assistant coach signal the lift the shift changes? Sometimes
there's a shift change and someone stays out, like sometimes
Ovechkin will stay because he'll do a longer shift. How
is that play out in real time? Is it a signal?
Is it the guys start coming? Are they signaled the
guys on the ice? How do they find out? Because
sometimes they're skating full tilt and the shift change is announced.
(30:37):
Is it verbal? Is there a signal? Is there a
rhythm that we don't even know about? They just know, Hey,
at forty five seconds, look to the bench because we're coming.
Which is it? I like to know how that's done
because it's never It's such a basic element of hockey,
and if you never played hockey, you would have no idea.
But it's never explained in a broadcast because it's the
most basic element of anyone. Have a guess.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I think you would bang the sticks like that would
signal that the.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Signal the guys on the ice, Yeah, we're coming out.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, you can't yell on the ice chift change? Yeah,
and then why you just fire the puck around the yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And then you get over to the clear. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
But sometimes not all the guys swap out.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, I would think that you would know, and you
probably have an internal clock that's like, okay, I know
that I'm out here for the next number of seconds
or minutes, and then you know that you're going to
be you know, substituted.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, and just for just quick sidebar, okay, for everybody
who emails and messages us on social media being like, hello,
Stanley Cup, why aren't you guys talking about it? This
is essentially why Yeah, hello, okay, Stanley Cup. It's happening.
You guys don't even mention it. Well, okay, so what
do he wants to read the scores?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah? Yeah, there, I got my cracking sweatshirt on. We're
all in.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Some one's had two goals in the late last eighteen.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, well they only had one.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I would like an explanation, Yes, Tod, Why does a fight.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Have to stop just because one of them fell to
the No, No.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Let's let's stay with one question here, okay, And is
this a safe place? Okay? What's worse though? Hockey fans
or soccer fans.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Kind of interchangeable to some degree.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, like you said, well that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Was off sides. It's off side.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Stanley Cup finals. It's Stanley Cup final.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yes, hockey fans aren't bad. Soccer fans are often correcting
you whilst wearing a scarf around their neck, and the
scarf makes a little punchable, lightly punchable.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, but you have the hooligans there. I don't want
That'll be careful, yes.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
After it no shirt on, screaming it's yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You can usually pick them out too. It's not hard
to Can you find the hooligan? Yeah? That guy right there?
That guy, Yeah, that guy with blood coming down from
his eyes, screaming that guy. Maybe you know, we'll get
you know, hockey fans to help us out, maybe a tutorial.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I do like that sometimes when you watch some of
these like soccer documentaries or whatever that they have, and
they go into like the town with the lads and
the hooligans or whatever, and some of them are like, well,
I really just go to the games because I like
to drink and fight.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, they're not going to the match for the match. Yeah,
the result is whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I just like to custro what was the what was
the Manchester book?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Was it called Hooligans? Do you remember seeing a.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Book of the movie.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
There was a book.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
There's a movie called Green Street Hood.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, no, it's not that. It's a book and I
remember reading it. A lot of thugs. It had to
do with Manchester United.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
There's a man I'm not.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But I remember it was all about them going into,
you know, different towns.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
There's a really good book, a really famous book that
came out in the nineties I think, called Among the
Thugs that really gets into like sort of hooligan culture
maybe then like a street level. Yeah, I remember reading it.
It's like, damn, I just don't remember if it focused
on one.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't know if maybe I'm not being fair to
Manchester United, but it felt like for some reason, somebody
was wearing red. How about we take a break, got
our play of the day coming up, and there's going
to be a lot of people who are going to
help PAULI. This is going to be a hockey tutorial
and we're all going to learn something today.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Okay, Chris Chellis would help. Yeah, just throwing out old names.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
That it was.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Chilli was Chellio's forty eight when he stopped playing hockey.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, he was one of the oldest yager, may be the.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oldest no, no, no, Gordy Howell was oh I mean everything?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, Okay, Chelios is forty Yoager might still be playing
by the way somewhere flow. Let's take a break. Play
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Speaker 6 (35:34):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Of the day is the play of the day.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Check this out deep Judge centerfield.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
There it goes, say yah, a monster shot, Oh the
Batter's Eye A song for Judge.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Have the Yankees lead seven nothing?
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simply Safe. Now, that was the Yankee call. There was
a call on Sportsnet TV the Blue Jays announcers and
it sounded like this.
Speaker 11 (36:41):
All right, Buck, So you and I looked at each
other at the same moment, right when we saw this
three pitches ago. What is that?
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Where's he looking?
Speaker 11 (36:51):
Where's he looking at?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
He did it more than once. Yeah, it's really really unusual.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
When you and I both looked at each other way
and saw that.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
Did you see what I saw? And you don't want
to go, you know, throwing allegations around without knowing.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
But no, man, he pummeled up. He hit it a
country mile for his second home run of the night.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Dan Shulman, Buck Martinez, the Blue Jays announcers. Aaron Judge
is in the batter's box and he looks over it
gives a side eye to the Yankee dugout. Now, after
the game, he had this to say as to why
he was looking over to the dugout with his side
eye before he ended up hitting that monstrous home run.
Speaker 11 (37:40):
A lot of chirping from our our dugout, which I
really didn't like in the situation where it's a six
nothing game and I know Booney got tossed, Like I'm
trying to save Booney by.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Calling time out, like hey, hold up here, let.
Speaker 11 (37:52):
Me work here. So I was kind of trying to
see who was was chirping in the dugout.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
So let's six nothing, Like, let's Booney got tossed, that's.
Speaker 11 (38:00):
Let's go to work on.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, Aaron, Boone had gotten tossed earlier, and Judge said
the reason why he was given a side eye to
the dugout because his teammates were chirping. Now you're up
six nothing. I'm not sure what you're chirping about. Your
Aaron Judge, shouldn't you be able to step out of
the if it bothers. You that much step out of
(38:21):
the box and signal to your dugout. Guys, Shut up,
I'm trying to concentrate here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
See, were all of the Yankees hitters looking into the dugout?
Or was it just Aaron Judge?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I don't know. The only video I saw was Aaron Judge.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
If it's just him, then nothing to see here. If
it was all of them, then.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
But the Blue Jays announcers said it happened in another
at bat. So those were two at bats that he
was looking and were they chirping in the other at bat?
And they brought it up on air. Dan Schulman's a
Hall of Fame play by play guy, and Buck Martinez
is a former catcher. Feels like something was there, But
i'd I don't know if the other Yankees did it,
(39:01):
if they did it for the other Yankee players, But
if you looked into the dugout on two different occasions,
then this isn't about chirping.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yes, But then if you were, say, stealing signals, right,
or if the pitchers tipping their pitches, yes, only do
it for Aaron nobody else?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, I don't know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Like that doesn't make any sense, and why wouldn't everybody
get the call?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
But if your excuse was they were chirping, yeah, what
about the other previous hit bat? Were they chirping there?
And if they chirp there, then you tell them, guys,
stop chirping when I'm at the plate, and then they
wouldn't have done that the second time around. Something or nothing, Todd,
I think.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Something is that the body language of someone that's just
annoyed by chirping.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
You're taking this quick peek.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Just that's your dirty look to your teammates, say hey,
I'm trying to die here.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, something or nothing?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Setan Uh, I'm gonna say nothing until I see other
people do.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It, all right, Marvin nothing okay, sounds like a Yankee apologist.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
The PAULI I'm leaning towards something because Schulman brought it up,
not just had in his back pocket. Aaron Judge had
five at bats, he had two homers and three walks.
He was spotless in the game. The other thing was
what made the clip worse is that right after they
almost don't accuse him of stealing signals, he parks one
five hundred feet. Yeah, and like the timing of the
(40:26):
clip is just perfect for the internet.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
He hit one of the longest home runs ever hit
in that building.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Like he knew what was coming.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Dan, Oh, he was sitting on a pitch. Thank you,
Paul Uh. We'll keep an eye on that story.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Yes, Tom, why can't you just bang on garbage cans
like everyone else does?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Mike and Florida here to answer Pauli's question about how
do you know when it's time to get off the ice?
Say shift change?
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Hey Mike, Hey, Hey, Dan called in before. Usually I
call in and when he always these hockey questions. I played.
I'm originally from Canada, played hockey all my life, played
collegiate hockey, so I feel I'm comfortable in discussing it.
But what happens is if you've got in the NHL,
you've got assistant coaches on the bench, and one assistant
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coach will handle the defense and then the other will
handle the forwards, and the head coach kind of tells
them who's going next, and they'll just tap them on
the back and usually when you get ready to go,
you'll stand up. In other words, if the guys are
on the ice for longer than thirty forty five seconds,
they'll look over to the bench, they'll be guys standing up,
(41:38):
and that kind of gives you the signal that's time
to get off.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Is there a signal.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
The coach taps you on the back, like.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
No, the guys on the ice, the guys on the ice,
everybody's just kind of so there's no verbal, there's no
audible signal.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
The Usually the verbal will come if somebody has been
on the ice way too long and they're calling him
and get him off because he could be exhausted and
he's out of position. But what happens is it's quite
organized in the sense that you know you're going out next,
so you'll possibly be standing up waiting for the other
(42:17):
guys to come up the ice. So that's kind of
a non verbal signal. But you have four lines of
forwards and usually three to four sets of defensemen, and
the coach will specify who's going out next, like.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Mike, gotta go. Thanks. It took longer than a shift,
I mean it should have been forty five seconds or
left there, Mike
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(00:47):
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But we'll have that for you coming up as well.
Spend a lot of time last night watching my Kraken
lose to the Stars on your birthday. I know, I know,
had my Kracking sweatshirt on. I was all set to go.
(01:52):
I'm watching and I'm waiting for some offense and there's
no offense to be had until the last minute. And uh,
it's always fun to watch playoff hockey Game seven hockey.
And now the Stars advanced to face Vegas. All right,
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Speaker 3 (02:28):
I've got an option and Toddler's also thrown in a
couple two. Oh, if you'd like me throw mine out
or would you like to go right to the to do?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I would like you to throw yours in? Don't throw
it out? Yeah, okay, okay, you can do that, all right?
All right?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So I have who will be him in the Nuggets
Lakers series?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Who will be him?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Very hip?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yes, very hip? But you're really hipping in this show up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Austin Reeves was him earlier this year.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Right, Unfortunately, we only have a spot for a couple
of names, and he's not one of them. He would
fall in the other category.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Oka, say, Anthony Davis, Lebron James the Joker, Joker, Jamal Murray.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And then well Jamal unfortunately I think is going to
fall into other as well.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh is that rude?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, because I feel like I feel like the three
marquee names are Jokic, James Davis. Yeah, we only have
room for four options on a Twitter poll, and then
we're going to just put other in there. Other Yeah, yeah,
so you're Jamal Murray vote you would go another under
the other umbrella?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Who will be him?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Will be him? Who will be him? Tonight?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Tonight?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Just tonight in game one, because you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Know what, the next one, when's he heat Celtics.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
We'll do it.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Who will be him for that series? Okay, we don't
have to do that today. We don't have We're going
to save that one.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
All right. It's the over undergame. You guys have been
very good at this. This according to DraftKings over under
points for Anthony Davis tonight, Todd, I'll start with you
twenty three and a half, Seaton.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Twenty seven and a half, Marvin twenty.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Five and a half, Paulie twenty six and a half.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's not a good start, twenty four eighteen and a half.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Twenty two and a half over under Lebron James Marvin
twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And a half, Seaton twenty seven and a half, Paulie
twenty five to twenty eight and a half, twenty five
and a half half Okay, bloop Paulie. No, it's a
twenty five and a half closest without going over here
would get that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Over under for the Joker Tonight Pauline twenty and a half,
Marvin thirty and a half, Seating twenty seven and a half.
I hit with that happy okay, how about it? No, no, no,
it's not a birthday week. It was yesterday.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
That was it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
We're still in cake.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
That's in case this morning for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I walked back into the kitchen. I go, what do
you got? I thought it was the breakfast burrito left
over from yesterday. Seaton goes, I'm having carrot cake. Of
course you are. It's good for you. It's eight in
the morning. You know it's healthy. It's got carrots in there.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Over under Jamal Murray tonight didn't make the list. He's
under the other seating over under Jamal Murray twenty one
and a half.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Marvin twenty three and a half, Paulie nineteen and a half,
todd twenty two and a half.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Twenty four and a half. I like him twenty four
and a half. For other Jamal Murray, What other pole
questions do we have?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, Toddler, why don't you throw one of yours?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Out?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh boy?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
I find the NBA Draft lottery compelling, utterly unentertaining.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This is always you projecting dude, thank your problem.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
Your pool questions are let me tell you something. The
last years anyway, and Jamie Gertz excluded, no one remotely
exciting is really on the daist there. And if they're
not into it and they can't get celebrities or top
players or anyone to be part of this, why should
I be that excited.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's the only reason.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
That's one of the main reasons I just put the
You know, I'm curious to see who gets the ping
pong bawl. Hopefully someone that's got a two percent chance
gets it. But no one's even contributing on their own teams.
It's like, let's get the associate marketing vice president of
player development to sit there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, what if they had just like the top Hooters
girl in every one of these cities.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
I would probably just watch that and they not watch
the game after.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yes, I think I'm back in the toddler on this one,
because we asked the NBA for the list of who's
representing each team at draft lottery, and it is a
lot of like executive vice president Jim Lipper. But then
there's Ben Wallace with the Pistons. At least that's got
some juice to it. But there's a celebrity fan have
him go there? Like, isn't Kevin Hard a six you know,
a fan of.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
A team or the Sixers? Aren't the loner? You know?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
He's available?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, see, I get maybe I'm just like overreacting to this,
but I've find the fact that Meodka is going to
be there fascinating. Yeah, he's the first time he's going
to be seen in public is at.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The draft lottery. Why isn't this a why are Well?
I'm gonna guess there's probably going to be some topics
off limits there when they go and talk to him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Maybe, but it's like, what, this is the first time
he's been seen since forever ago? Yeah, Like, dude, got
some questions. Man, Okay, maybe this is probably the worst
year for him to do it, since there's nobody interesting.
Mallory Eden's not out there, you know what I mean.
There's no Jamie Gertz, there's no but it's Eoka.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, so what have you been up to, coach? You're
on your third team in the calendar year. Can we
talk about it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah? Well, I didn't officially go to the nets. They
wouldn't let me kind of.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yeah, I'm just here to honor ping pong balls today.
I don't know what you got?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
What else do we have there? I find the lottery
interesting because it's, first of all, you've got a sure
thing in Victor Wan Bayama. He he's going to be
a generational talent, or at least we think he's going
to be. How many times have we had this though?
When you think of generational talents, obviously Lebron generational talent.
(08:09):
And this is when you're going in the hype going in.
Lebron was going to change your franchise, and he did.
He changed basketball a zion, but he wasn't a sure thing.
You know, he was battling weight and he had a
knee injury, and we wondered he's undersized and he was
going to go in the NBA and change things. He
(08:31):
hasn't yet. Who else would be on that list where
you go that guy can't now I'm talking the last
twenty years, last twenty years, Yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I looked up Ben Simmons because he was really really
hot going to that draft, and there was nobody the
question who was the one pick? It was ninety five
percent positive about Ben Simmons. But I found a few
articles that question his some character questions, some effort questions,
and some definitely some shot questions, shooting ability questions, but
not a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I questioned all of them because he couldn't get his
team in the tournament. And I watched him play and
I go, he can't shoot, but he is six '
nine and he could run the floor, and I thought, okay,
can he develop a shot. I thought that he was
left handed, like I thought that he should be trying
to shoot left handed because he couldn't shoot right handed.
(09:23):
And he was going to be the next Magic. Like
we're always waiting for the next Michael, we're also waiting
for the next Magic. And in fairness to how great
Magic was, you know, Penny Hardaway was probably as close
to Magic, and then he got injured. There but to
get somebody six ' eight, six ' nine running the point,
and then Magic developed into a dangerous shooter. But he
(09:46):
didn't have a jump shot when he first got into
the league, but he didn't really need it. You watch
Ben Simmons and you go, how do you not get
your team in the tournament? First of all? Second of all,
didn't anybody pull you aside and say, hey, you learn
how to shoot? And then there was the attitude does
he really love basketball? That sort of surfaced at LSU. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
If there is any justice in this damn NFL universe, right,
can Portland please win the number one pick?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Okay? I had a dream last night.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Can we just get Dame a damn player and let
this dude win some games, just a reward for being loyal?
Can we please just make that happen?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I had a dream last night that Portland won the lottery. Dude, Yes,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, let's just throw it out in the universe and
let's just what would Aaron Rodgers say, We're manifesting it.
Let's manifest this Dame deserves it then, for finally, for
being loyal all this time, Dame deserves it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Ten and a half percent. Ten and a half percent
for Dame Lillard. You might have had a different dream
last night, but I was dreaming of Portland winning the lottery? Todd,
did you have that same dream last night?
Speaker 8 (10:55):
Exact dream?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:56):
Yes, Mark, next year, if the Lakers win the NBA title,
Trailblazers at Lakers Opening Night, let's go when.
Speaker 10 (11:05):
No, no, no, let's wait, let's wait, We're not I'm manifesting.
We're going into a dark place and we're manifesting. Why
are we in a dark place because Aaron Rodgers in
a dark place and he manifested.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, but I don't want to be Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, but we're just trying to manifest this for dame
on behalf of day.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We want to make this happen. Yeah, all right, how
about just some positive thoughts? Yeah, that's all positive energy.
I don't have to go into a dark place.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah no, no, not not like metaphorically like he literally
went into a dark room for four days.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Who wants ayahuasca raised their hands. I'm in, I'm in, well,
carrot cake in iahwuasca. Let's get weird, let's get her,
you know what. Let me get Shay and Irving in here.
And I think we got a party going. Yeah, he's
making up stuff too. When's too early to have ayahuasca?
You know we had carrot cake at eight in the morning,
iawasca at nine thirty five o'clock somewhere.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
We kind of check what the room you'd uh?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
What other poll questions do we have? Their possibilities? Todd
has a do you have a Sports Center tease today. Yeah,
I know you do because you sent it to me.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Twice all the time by accident.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah yeah, but that'll be a little bit later. I
want to tease that so we keep the audience getting
now no, no, I want to tease that like that
so the audience goes, I can't get out of my car.
I gotta wait for the Sports Center.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Tease exactly how everyone should react to.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What else do we have, Seaton, Well, you know we
could run down the draft lottery h and where you
want to see.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Oh, we'll do that in a little bit. Yeah, you'll
do that a little bit.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Any other sure things where you went into the draft
and you go, that guy's going to be great.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Yeah, Mark, what about Anthony Davis coming out and Charlotte
was like one in eighty one and they still didn't
get the number one pick and they had to setup
for Michael kidd Gilchris.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Uh yeah, another guy who couldn't shoot at all. Michael
kid Gil. I don't know about you, but when you
go into the NBA, I figured you better be able
to shoot a little bit because it is a shooter's league.
Everybody is shooting. Everybody thinks they can shoot and he
couldn't shoot. But I think his first game, didn't he
have a triple double. I think his first NBA game
(13:15):
he had a triple double. I go all right, all right, kid, Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
We have a listener, David here. Through at Greg Odin.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
He was.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
He was a pretty hot thing coming out of college.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Then the conversation was just him and Kevin Durant, ye know,
one or the other. Yeah, and Greg and Kevin Durant
was just too thin. Yes, he's too scrunny. You're never
gonna make it at the next level. Also, people love
that Greg Odin. Didn't he break his wrist and shot
with his left hand. But yeah, yeah, I like that.
That's yeah, that's a guy. That's the way we do it. Yeah,
he could have played in the sixties. That's the way
(13:49):
we did. Just put some tape on it, rubbed some
dirt on it. Yes, point, I know.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I'm splitting hairs here, but I think there's a difference
between surefire number one pick and generational talent where a
town celebrates the draft, like Patrick Ewing was that guy.
I think Shack was that guy when he came into
the league. You know, iverson was close. I mean the
buzz and the ability of him. When Philadelpha got him,
it was a celebration.
Speaker 11 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And then I would say Yoming in Houston, Lebron in Cleveland,
and then maybe, like we said, Ben Simmons was very hot,
but not as hot as Victor wen Bianna come into
the draft. I've heard no criticisms of this guy.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Zero. Yeah, and he's been playing with grownups. That's why
when Luca came in, Luca had been playing against grownups
since he was fifteen professionally, and when Bayama, who is
what eighteen nineteen, now he's been playing against grownups. I
don't know if the competition is at the level that
it was for Luca who he was playing against, probably not.
(14:45):
But when Bayama has touch, has handled, runs the floor.
His mom was a basketball player, his mom's dad was
a basketball player. I think his father was a track athlete.
So it's it's in his genes. And then you have
you know, Janice is talking. You know, there's a lot
of NBA players co signing on this saying, you know,
(15:08):
this guy is going to be something special. Yes, Mark, it's.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
Probably the last thing since Lebron because NBA players were
talking about him junior year, senior year in high school.
And this feels like the same thing with the when Bayamba,
When Bayamba.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We'll work on that. It took us a while to
get Jannis's name. I think we first thought it was Giannis,
but you know, we learned how to pronounce that. Like
he became so good, we had to learn how to
pronounce it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I made an all Star team.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, like, okay, now Gombo this guy, yeah, just Greek freak.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let me take a break. We're just getting started. We'll
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(17:11):
Reminiscing about the last sure thing when it comes to
the NBA Draft Lottery, I think Zion was universally loved.
There were flaws in his game, but I think it
was more of that he was famous, he was marketable
social media, and when you're thinking about the players, who
(17:31):
have benefited from social media. Zion is up there as
one of the first. You know, Lebron had very little criticism.
He was a past first guy. People did wonder about
hit the range on his jump shot, that he didn't
have a good look. He still doesn't have a good
looking jump shot. But he was a man amongst boys.
(17:52):
I'm trying to think who else kind of fits into
that category where you go man, I don't have many
questions and one Byama is one of those players. It
feels like Tim Duncan was there. He spent four years
in college, and back then it wasn't a negative to
spend four years in college. Now if you do that,
it's like, what's wrong with him? But Tim Duncan had
(18:13):
all the elements. I mean, when your nickname is the
big fundamental, I mean doesn't really bring excitement, but he has,
you know, one of the ten best careers in NBA history.
Maybe that'd be a nice landing spot for Victor Wan Bayama.
Now I don't know his personality. Does he want to
go big market? Does he care? He doesn't have a choice.
(18:35):
But do you want to go to Detroit? Do you
want to go to Houston? Charlotte. Where does the NBA
want him to go? If I was going to place him,
let's see where would I place him? Uh, Detroit, Houston,
San Antonio, Charlotte, Portland, Orlando, Indiana, Washington, Utah. I was
(18:56):
going to place him, hmm, maybe the Dallas Mavericks that
you know, you put him with Luca? Now, could we
could we find out that we have the five best
players in basketball are not from the United States. If
Victor one Byama is that kind of generational talent. So
(19:19):
you have Jokic, you have Giannis, you have Embiid, you
have Luca, Victor one Byama. Is there anybody in that category? Now?
I mean Lebron can be, but Lebron is not a
maybe a top five, top four talent now. But you know,
think about that, these players how they're brought up, and
(19:40):
they're also brought you know, Tatum is in that conversation,
I would think, but they're brought up differently in how
they play. Because if you're a big guy, you're taught
how to handle, you're you're taught how to you're not
treated as a big guy, the traditional big guy. Now
that's changed. That's changed in the NBA because now you
have these bigger players who would be big men. They
(20:03):
all want to handle the ball, they want to shoot,
so they're they're working on those skills earlier. And that's
what happens with a lot of these players who were
born outside the United States. Shay gilgis, Alexander's from Canada.
Canada's had a nice influx, and it feels like, do
you go back to, you know, Vince Carter in Toronto
or Damon Sodomaier. I don't think, you know, the Vancouver
(20:26):
Grizzlies would have factored in, Steve Nash. I don't know
if there was any trickle down with that. Yes, Mark,
I think you had it right when you said Vince Carter. Yeah,
I think it's Vince Carter period. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:37):
Yeah, there's a documentary called The Carter Effect on Vince
Carter's influence, Yeah on basketball in Canada.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Okay, like it's oh, it's Vince Carter. Yeah, all right,
back to you, all right, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
All right?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Eight seven seven three DP show email adder SDP at
Danpatrick dot com. Go through the last number one picks overall?
Can we go through those just to see if anybody
else stands out?
Speaker 9 (21:03):
Yes, Mark Are, we got Pollo, Ben Catro, Kate Cunningham.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Those are good players, they're not generational players.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Before that, Anthony Edwards in twenty twenty, Zion DeAndre Ayton,
Markel foulk He, Ben Simmons, Carl, Anthony Towns.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
All good players, not general well not all good players,
but they're nobody's a generational talent. There anybody else in it.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Ben Simmons, Karl, Anthony Towns, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, No, No,
Anthony Davis, Kyrie.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I had concerns about Davis. He didn't score in the
National Title game, but he do you remember when I
came in and I said this guy maybe it was
his rookie year, and I said, he's going to be
the rookie of the year. I forget when it was.
It was early, but I watched him, and I watched
him one more night and I go, oh my god.
(22:04):
It's almost like Patrick Ewing came into the NBA. We
didn't know that he could shoot like that because he
was not kind of it felt like John Thompson wanted
him to be the traditional big man, so he wasn't
pushed to the perimeter where he was going to take
those jump showns. He gets into the NBA and he
was more of an offensive weapon than defensive weapon. But
(22:26):
I remember Anthony Davis and I remember talking to Chris
Mannix about it, and I go, this guy's unstoppable. He's
going to be He's going to be great. But I
didn't see that when he was at Kentucky. I mean
you'd see glimpses, and sometimes you don't stand out because
everybody stands out of Kentucky. But I think he was
what O for ten in the National Title game, and
(22:47):
I thought, okay, he can play defense. I don't know
how good he is offensively, but I always love to
watch a big man shoot free throws, as weird as
that sounds, because then you're going to show me your
form and your touch, and you see something you know,
Anthony Davis' great form. Joe el Embiid like having a
big man who can shoot free throws having nice touch.
(23:08):
That's something that stands out. Yes, Poum, I really think he.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Had to go back to three and O two Lebron
James and Yao Ming, where they they themselves dwarfed the
rest of the draft. Where was who got them? And
then it's an afterthought. That's what tonight feels like. With
the draft lottery. No one in the country can name
who doesn't know sports really well. Who's gonna be two
three and four? Yao Ming had a year of coverage
to himself, Lebron James had a year and a half.
Where it's like, and Victor Wenbion has been We've been
(23:32):
talking about on this show for over a year.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, I think I think Scoot is pretty good. Scoot
Henderson right Uh, he's been playing in the G League
and he is considered and he might be an Anthony
Edwards type player talent and he's gonna play right away.
But you know when when it's almost like you have
that guy and you go, god, he can do all
of those things, and it's usually it's a big guy
(23:55):
where you go, gosh, did you see he can go inside, outside,
handle as all of those things. And when Bayama appears
to be that kind of talent there who else? Pelican
said they got a half a percent, Toronto's got one percent,
Oklahoma City one point seven percent. I guess if I
(24:18):
was going to place him, I'd place him in Dallas
because of the star power that you would have there
and the possibility, and that would be that would be
fun Portland. You keep Dame in town, it'd certainly be like, okay,
all right, or do they go, yeah, we got Victor
one Byama, We're gonna trade Dame and we're gonna build
(24:41):
around Victor one Byama. I mean, that's not crazy to
think that way because Victor one Bayama might be a
couple of years away and Dame is thirty two. But
I just don't see Dame finishing his career in Portland.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Put, I'm gonna throw out the Orlando magic. That's an
kind of somewhat of a international city, a lot of tourism,
a lot of travelers. If you played in Orlando, They've
got ban Cao, They've had some good draft picks over
the past couple of years that could support him. I
would say that Orlando would be the place I would
place him for the most exposure.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
When Shaq and Penny were there, they were cool, and
now you need to win first, be cool. But you
go ban Cao all the other guys that they drafted
in the past couple of years. I think he got
something and their international city because of the tourism.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But I mean you got Sugs and Wagner.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
International.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Orlando seems to be the place though, where good draft
picks go to waste the first four years of their
career and then eventually get traded or leave to a
good team.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That's actually the full name of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think the Orlando magic, where you go to waste
the first four years of your career.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Is essentially where it's like, yeah, okay, finally somebody else
is gonna.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Pick me up.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, get out of here. Dwight Howard essentially Tracy McGrady. Yeah,
Mark in Detroit, Hi, Mark, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Then?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Pleasure huge man?
Speaker 8 (26:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Before I get to the why Victor is a perfect
fit for the Pistons, I would like to say, screw Portland.
They passed on Jordan and they passed on kd so
why why should they get another shot at a generation
val Well.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
They can't screw this one up, though, Mark.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
They'll probably take Scoot Henderson and try to But Detroit
is the perfect fit.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Man.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
We have the best young back potential backcourt in the league.
God Willing Kate stays healthy, which he should after the
shin surgery. That he's needed some high school Jaydon and
Ivy Jalen Durham nineteen years old, already a beast at center.
We have a chance to either bring.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It in Villain the Dylan or Draymond a.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Round out the top five with Victor. Uh this, this
could be a Detroit dynasty. Tonight at the King Paul Ball,
it was our way.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Thank you, Mark, good luck with the dynasty. Yes, Marv,
relax easy.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
But you know what if you get Victor, you're thinking,
all right, we're about a couple of titles to whatever
city he goes to.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, dynasty, Yeah, relax, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Could start calling him Destois again, Dan the French.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
There you go, Yeah, you got the delivery. Yeah. Paulie
was saying, you know what, it'd be great if one
Bayama who is French went to the French Quarter went
to the New Orleans Pelicans a half a percent plus
joke a half and I love dad jokes. Yes, yes, Tim,
what about marketing wise?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
If you went to the Wizards, you could have him
standing next to the Washington Monument and the Lincoln.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
You can have him with all these famous.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Lage statues you have. You have poor zingis well, I
don't think they did that, did they?
Speaker 8 (27:58):
And he turns out he's not good enough to get
the time.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Okay, you start off fresh and have him just these
cool pictures of him next to all these giant things
all over the DC are landmarks.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Okay, little marketing there, he's the newest landmark. Okay, thank you. Right,
what's poll question we're going with today? Seed dah?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
We did the cringey who is him? Oh oh? And
then naked Nuggets Lakers series? Thank you early voting. Right now,
the Joker is at sixty five percent. He's running away
with it.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
DraftKings has odds on him to average a triple double
is plus one thirty. The Nuggets are favorites to win
the series. Let's see, how about this. Any player to
break Michael Jordan's single game Conference Finals scoring record, which
is fifty four points plus three thousand. This is the
(28:55):
one that I would probably bet on. Joker and Lebron
to combine for at least twenty assists in Game one
plus four to twenty five.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That's a niche better.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It sounds like somebody gets twelve and somebody gets nine,
and I'm a winner if I only gambled. These prop
bits are all. They're very fun. Odds to win the
Stanley Cup. Anybody want to guess who is the favorite
now the final fourteen to win. By the way, Pauli goes,
(29:28):
I got a hockey question, but I don't want to
get yelled at if I bring up the question and
I said, this is a safe place. No, no, no, no, this
is a safe place.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I'm admittedly a casual hockey fan. I love the playoffs.
I watch a sport. I never play the sport shockingly,
but I have a hockey question that seems as rudimentary
as it gets.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, okay, you're ready?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Or should I save it? Because I need a hockey
person to answer for me? Maybe I could throw out
there they could answer, Oh, okay, So you know shift
changes in hockey. They happen in about forty five seconds.
There's a shift change they do when they clear the
when there's opportunities. They rarely show that they do the
shift change. You see the guys coming in and out
of the ice, off the ice. How do they happen
(30:09):
from the bench. How are they signaled in?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I think they don't they hit their sticks.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That would be interesting. I'd like to know does does
an assistant coach signal the lift the shift changes? Sometimes
there's a shift change and someone stays out, like sometimes
Ovechkin will stay because he'll do a longer shift. How
is that play out in real time? Is it a signal?
Is it the guys start coming? Are they signaled the
guys on the ice? How do they find out? Because
sometimes they're skating full tilt and the shift change is announced.
(30:37):
Is it verbal? Is there a signal? Is there a
rhythm that we don't even know about? They just know, Hey,
at forty five seconds, look to the bench because we're coming.
Which is it? I like to know how that's done
because it's never It's such a basic element of hockey,
and if you never played hockey, you would have no idea.
But it's never explained in a broadcast because it's the
most basic element of anyone. Have a guess.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I think you would bang the sticks like that would
signal that the.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Signal the guys on the ice, Yeah, we're coming out.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, you can't yell on the ice chift change? Yeah,
and then why you just fire the puck around the yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
And then you get over to the clear. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
But sometimes not all the guys swap out.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, I would think that you would know, and you
probably have an internal clock that's like, okay, I know
that I'm out here for the next number of seconds
or minutes, and then you know that you're going to
be you know, substituted.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, and just for just quick sidebar, okay, for everybody
who emails and messages us on social media being like, hello,
Stanley Cup, why aren't you guys talking about it? This
is essentially why Yeah, hello, okay, Stanley Cup. It's happening.
You guys don't even mention it. Well, okay, so what
do he wants to read the scores?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah? Yeah, there, I got my cracking sweatshirt on. We're
all in.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Some one's had two goals in the late last eighteen.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, well they only had one.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I would like an explanation, Yes, Tod, Why does a fight.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Have to stop just because one of them fell to
the No, No.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Let's let's stay with one question here, okay, And is
this a safe place? Okay? What's worse though? Hockey fans
or soccer fans.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Kind of interchangeable to some degree.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, like you said, well that.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Was off sides. It's off side.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Stanley Cup finals. It's Stanley Cup final.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yes, hockey fans aren't bad. Soccer fans are often correcting
you whilst wearing a scarf around their neck, and the
scarf makes a little punchable, lightly punchable.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, but you have the hooligans there. I don't want
That'll be careful, yes.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
After it no shirt on, screaming it's yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You can usually pick them out too. It's not hard
to Can you find the hooligan? Yeah? That guy right there?
That guy, Yeah, that guy with blood coming down from
his eyes, screaming that guy. Maybe you know, we'll get
you know, hockey fans to help us out, maybe a tutorial.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I do like that sometimes when you watch some of
these like soccer documentaries or whatever that they have, and
they go into like the town with the lads and
the hooligans or whatever, and some of them are like, well,
I really just go to the games because I like
to drink and fight.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, they're not going to the match for the match. Yeah,
the result is whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
I just like to custro what was the what was
the Manchester book?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Was it called Hooligans? Do you remember seeing a.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Book of the movie.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
There was a book.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
There's a movie called Green Street Hood.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, no, it's not that. It's a book and I
remember reading it. A lot of thugs. It had to
do with Manchester United.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
There's a man I'm not.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But I remember it was all about them going into,
you know, different towns.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
There's a really good book, a really famous book that
came out in the nineties I think, called Among the
Thugs that really gets into like sort of hooligan culture
maybe then like a street level. Yeah, I remember reading it.
It's like, damn, I just don't remember if it focused
on one.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I don't know if maybe I'm not being fair to
Manchester United, but it felt like for some reason, somebody
was wearing red. How about we take a break, got
our play of the day coming up, and there's going
to be a lot of people who are going to
help PAULI. This is going to be a hockey tutorial
and we're all going to learn something today.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Okay, Chris Chellis would help. Yeah, just throwing out old names.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
That it was.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Chilli was Chellio's forty eight when he stopped playing hockey.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, he was one of the oldest yager, may be the.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oldest no, no, no, Gordy Howell was oh I mean everything?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, Okay, Chelios is forty Yoager might still be playing
by the way somewhere flow. Let's take a break. Play
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We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
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We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
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Speaker 6 (35:34):
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Of the day is the play of the day.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Check this out deep Judge centerfield.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
There it goes, say yah, a monster shot, Oh the
Batter's Eye A song for Judge.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Have the Yankees lead seven nothing?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
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simply Safe. Now, that was the Yankee call. There was
a call on Sportsnet TV the Blue Jays announcers and
it sounded like this.
Speaker 11 (36:41):
All right, Buck, So you and I looked at each
other at the same moment, right when we saw this
three pitches ago. What is that?
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Where's he looking?
Speaker 11 (36:51):
Where's he looking at?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
He did it more than once. Yeah, it's really really unusual.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
When you and I both looked at each other way
and saw that.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
Did you see what I saw? And you don't want
to go, you know, throwing allegations around without knowing.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
But no, man, he pummeled up. He hit it a
country mile for his second home run of the night.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Dan Shulman, Buck Martinez, the Blue Jays announcers. Aaron Judge
is in the batter's box and he looks over it
gives a side eye to the Yankee dugout. Now, after
the game, he had this to say as to why
he was looking over to the dugout with his side
eye before he ended up hitting that monstrous home run.
Speaker 11 (37:40):
A lot of chirping from our our dugout, which I
really didn't like in the situation where it's a six
nothing game and I know Booney got tossed, Like I'm
trying to save Booney by.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Calling time out, like hey, hold up here, let.
Speaker 11 (37:52):
Me work here. So I was kind of trying to
see who was was chirping in the dugout.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
So let's six nothing, Like, let's Booney got tossed, that's.
Speaker 11 (38:00):
Let's go to work on.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, Aaron, Boone had gotten tossed earlier, and Judge said
the reason why he was given a side eye to
the dugout because his teammates were chirping. Now you're up
six nothing. I'm not sure what you're chirping about. Your
Aaron Judge, shouldn't you be able to step out of
the if it bothers. You that much step out of
(38:21):
the box and signal to your dugout. Guys, Shut up,
I'm trying to concentrate here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
See, were all of the Yankees hitters looking into the dugout?
Or was it just Aaron Judge?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I don't know. The only video I saw was Aaron Judge.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
If it's just him, then nothing to see here. If
it was all of them, then.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
But the Blue Jays announcers said it happened in another
at bat. So those were two at bats that he
was looking and were they chirping in the other at bat?
And they brought it up on air. Dan Schulman's a
Hall of Fame play by play guy, and Buck Martinez
is a former catcher. Feels like something was there, But
i'd I don't know if the other Yankees did it,
(39:01):
if they did it for the other Yankee players, But
if you looked into the dugout on two different occasions,
then this isn't about chirping.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yes, But then if you were, say, stealing signals, right,
or if the pitchers tipping their pitches, yes, only do
it for Aaron nobody else?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, I don't know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Like that doesn't make any sense, and why wouldn't everybody
get the call?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
But if your excuse was they were chirping, yeah, what
about the other previous hit bat? Were they chirping there?
And if they chirp there, then you tell them, guys,
stop chirping when I'm at the plate, and then they
wouldn't have done that the second time around. Something or nothing, Todd,
I think.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Something is that the body language of someone that's just
annoyed by chirping.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
You're taking this quick peek.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Just that's your dirty look to your teammates, say hey,
I'm trying to die here.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, something or nothing?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Setan Uh, I'm gonna say nothing until I see other
people do.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It, all right, Marvin nothing okay, sounds like a Yankee apologist.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
The PAULI I'm leaning towards something because Schulman brought it up,
not just had in his back pocket. Aaron Judge had
five at bats, he had two homers and three walks.
He was spotless in the game. The other thing was
what made the clip worse is that right after they
almost don't accuse him of stealing signals, he parks one
five hundred feet. Yeah, and like the timing of the
(40:26):
clip is just perfect for the internet.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
He hit one of the longest home runs ever hit
in that building.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Like he knew what was coming.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Dan, Oh, he was sitting on a pitch. Thank you,
Paul Uh. We'll keep an eye on that story.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Yes, Tom, why can't you just bang on garbage cans
like everyone else does?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Mike and Florida here to answer Pauli's question about how
do you know when it's time to get off the ice?
Say shift change?
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Hey Mike, Hey, Hey, Dan called in before. Usually I
call in and when he always these hockey questions. I played.
I'm originally from Canada, played hockey all my life, played
collegiate hockey, so I feel I'm comfortable in discussing it.
But what happens is if you've got in the NHL,
you've got assistant coaches on the bench, and one assistant
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coach will handle the defense and then the other will
handle the forwards, and the head coach kind of tells
them who's going next, and they'll just tap them on
the back and usually when you get ready to go,
you'll stand up. In other words, if the guys are
on the ice for longer than thirty forty five seconds,
they'll look over to the bench, they'll be guys standing up,
(41:38):
and that kind of gives you the signal that's time
to get off.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Is there a signal.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
The coach taps you on the back, like.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
No, the guys on the ice, the guys on the ice,
everybody's just kind of so there's no verbal, there's no
audible signal.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
The Usually the verbal will come if somebody has been
on the ice way too long and they're calling him
and get him off because he could be exhausted and
he's out of position. But what happens is it's quite
organized in the sense that you know you're going out next,
so you'll possibly be standing up waiting for the other
(42:17):
guys to come up the ice. So that's kind of
a non verbal signal. But you have four lines of
forwards and usually three to four sets of defensemen, and
the coach will specify who's going out next, like.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Mike, gotta go. Thanks. It took longer than a shift,
I mean it should have been forty five seconds or
left there, Mike
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