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covering the US Olympic team. Summer League basketball continues, and
everybody spots somebody and they go, wow, that is going
to be great. Once again, I'm going to caution you
the Summer League is littered with guys who are Wow,
that guy is gonna be great, and then they disappear.
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You know, you get an into an atmosphere where and
it feels like everything is run up and down the
floor and shoot threes. That's what the Summer League is.
But occasionally you'll get some players who know how to
play and they will play in the NBA. But as
far as playing at a high level, what you do
in the Summer League doesn't equate to stardom in the NBA. Right,
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So we have a poll question today. Gus will join
us a little bit later on. We've been talking about
Cooper Flag, seventeen year old going to Duke. He's playing
against the Olympic team and holding his own and you
start to wonder about when does somebody become a phenom.
When do the parents realize this? Do they realize it
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before the athlete does. We've had athletes in tennis as
young as what thirteen for Capriotti. They're there on the
center stage, they're playing in big events. In fact, tennis
has a lot of players, especially on the women's side
of tennis, that they're able to be there and play
at a high level at a younger age than the
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men track and field, you have a sixteen year old
who's going to be representing the United States in track
and field. Basketball is a little trickier, although you can
go back to Lebron when he was sixteen playing against
NBA players holding his own Bryce Harper when he was
fifteen or sixteen on the cover Sports Illustrated. You just
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have like the genetic lottery that you hit, But then
you also have to have parents who are and they
may border on being obsessive, but you have to sometime,
Like Tiger's dad was obsessive with Tiger, and if you
watch the documentary on Tiger, his parents tell his dad
tells him to break up with this girl that he
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really likes her. He writes her a letter and says,
I got to break up with you. She's like, why
my dad told me to. He didn't want anybody or
anything to get in the way of Tiger being great.
You look at Venus and Serena Williams, their father he
was not going to let anything get in the way,
including their upbringing in Compton. They are on sixty minutes
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and you're thinking, how are they able to be as
great as they are given the surroundings that they're growing
up in. But parents can be great. Parents can always
ruin things too. But you have a seventeen year old
kid who grew up in Maine and he is now
the number one high school player in America and projected
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to be the number one pick. Now we've seen this before.
Freddie Adu was a soccer player and he was supposed
to be the next great player and he never turned
out to be. I think he kind of burst on
the scene at fifteen. You have the hits and missus,
but sometimes you get that one and oh, oh my goodness,
that person is destined for greatness. But the role that
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parents play, coaches play, and also that player himself, because
I think we all grew up with, you know, athletes
who were like, oh my god, he's so much better
than everybody else, but they matured quicker. I remember playing
against a guy in eighth grade and I go, I'll
never be as good as him. He didn't make the
freshman team, but in eighth grade he was unbelievable. That's
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what happens. They stop, you continue, but then you have
to want to be great. That's another thing. It's not
your parents want you to be great. It's when the
child wants to be great, then the parents should follow suit,
not the other way around.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yes, that's one of.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
The things that people had been saying about Cooper Flagg.
I think I don't know if it was Kevin Durant
or not, that somebody had said, like, you could just
tell that this kid wants to be great like he
wants it, he wants to be the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And you got to have that, because I've been around parents,
been around coaches, and they will tell you he just
doesn't want it, like it comes too easy for you.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Want that kid? Who you got to go? Dad? Can
you come out hippie grounders? Dad? Can you throw me BP? Dad?
Would you rebound for me? Like you want to have that?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And when you have that, then as a parent, it's
exciting because it's not like I gotta drag Timmy out
and having shag flies. Come on, we're going to the
driving range on it's too hot. It's when the kid
is obsessed and then you follow suit. Too many times
it's parents who go come on yet, because we live
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vicariously through our children. If we didn't succeed, or the
guy who almost had the college career or he almost
was a great high school player. Now you see yourself
and your son or daughter and you're like, come on,
get out there and do it for me. Whether they
say that or not, it is implied you want your
son or daughter to succeed. Parents take great pride in that.
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Hey look what I did. Look what we did out there.
But you have to have something in your mind, that
DNA that says I want to be great and nothing
is going to stop me. Because you wouldn't expect a
kid in Maine to be the number one player in
America in high school basketball, going into college basketball and
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going to be the projected number one pick. But you
wouldn't have expected Serena Williams coming out of Compton to
be the best female tennis player of all time.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And who's this kid?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Tiger Woods and he's going to take on everybody, And
at age two or three he's on a TV show.
Get you can't script these things. You have to have
it just falls into place. But the son or the
daughter and the role they play of wanting it is
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really key because a lot of time the parents want
it more than the child does. All right, we'll come
up with the pole question here, But yeah, we were
kind of looking at this with the tennis players at Wembledon,
I mean even eighteen years of age, that's not young,
not anymore. Certainly on the female side of the draw.
You know, you get fourteen fifteen years of age, but
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a male track star at sixteen that's really unheard of.
You'll get some fast, you know, track and field athletes
at that age, but then to go to the Olympics,
that's different. So they're just certain players and certain athletes.
And I always look at, you know, the lineage here
your dad play, mom play. Look at Christian McCaffrey's parents
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and grandparents, great athletes. Mahomes' dad major League Baseball player,
Griffy with his father, I mean Tiger. You know his
dad was a athlete, not anywhere.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Near what he is.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Kobe Bryant, his dad play like you you have that
where you go your dad play?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now? No, my mom is all American volleyball player.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Okay, like it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
They's somewhere in the tree, the DNA tree where you go.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh okay, yeah that guy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
See Brad on Twitter brings up a good one too.
He has Katie Ledecki. She won a gold medal at fifteen. Yeah,
I think kind of out of nowhere. Well you find
that though also with female swimmers. While Missy Franklin I
think was really young, like you, Dearren Torres, like, there's
a lot of you know, women mature quicker sooner and
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have that opportunity to be able to compete before you know.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Boys, we're goofy, we're gangly.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, gold medal at fifteen, it's it's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I think you hit it on the head. It helps
if your father or mother played basketball. I looked at
Cooper Flag both parents played small college basketball mate, so
it comes from a basketball family. But the gift when
they say an athletes gifted, was Michael Jordan gifted with
leaping ability and coordination? Or was his gift a maniacal
desire to win and improve? Lebron's gift is being six '
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eight and coordinated and jacked, but also to work out
like that? Or Kobe Bryant was his gift is basketball
jumping ability and leaping ability or being a maniac about
working out. Maybe that's the gift.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But also when you realize you have it, the question
is do you want to cultivate it? Because there are
a lot of people who have a lot of talent.
And I was around a woman who's beautiful singer, and
I go, why don't you do this for livning?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Why you know?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Why don't you explore this? And she goes, I don't think,
So I go why and she said, I don't know.
I'm just not I'm just I know how to do it.
I just don't know if I want to do it.
And I go, Okay, you know that's but that does happen.
Sometimes you're good at something, but you're just good at it.
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Doesn't mean you want that as your job.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You don't. You're not obsessed with it. Some things come natural. Yes.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
See, my cousin Vince, when he was like thirteen years old,
was like six four two fifty. Kid was an absolute monster.
And I was like, holy crap, this kid's gonna be
alignment for Notre Dame. This is amazing. He's going to
the NFL. And he couldn't care less about football. He
just wanted to be an accountant.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
And that's what he is to this day.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And his like friends in high school I think made
him play football because they're like the coach's like, kid,
you're too big, Like you have to play you have
to do this. But he just wanted to be an accountant.
He just wanted to crunch numbers. That's what he wanted
to do. He had no interest in football.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And there it happens with a lot of people. You know,
you can have somebody who's great at math. They don't
like math, they're just really good at math. Hey, man,
you should be a scientist.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, Todd, Well, maybe you do like it, but you
don't have the self confidence to be able to take
it to the next level. Yeah, and you've convinced yourself
there's no way I'm gonna be able to hit that
kind of level.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Of Also, when you become a star, like a Little
League World Series star, now all of a sudden, Hey
what happened to you? Everybody catches up to you. That's
the difference between I'm really good at a really young age,
I'm twelve. Now what happens. And we've seen a lot
of these athletes, certainly Little League World Series. You're like, man,
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was he great? Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Did he play high school or baseball a little bit?
Didn't play in college? Yeah? That kid?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yesterday Lamina Male plays for Spain place for Barcelona. That
kid is an absolute superstar and he had a banger
yesterday sixteen sixteen. Yeah, yeah, he's one of the stories
about the Euros so far that people have been laughing about.
Is that or at least like, you know, leading up
to this was that he had to do his homework
all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Lamina.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Mile is busy doing his homework while his teammates are
like out getting dinner or something. He's like, oh, I
got a test or whatever. And he's an absolute superstar sixteen.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But you like Michael Jackson, he's in a musical family,
but you know, his dad, Joe had to go man
like special and he was like, there's just certain prodigies
where you just see it and you go, how is that?
Why did he get all the talent? His brothers are
just playing instruments. It's just that's you win the genetic pool,
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you win the lottery. And that's exactly what happens with
a lot of these talented athletes, musicians, artists. You know,
there's certain kids where you go, wait, he's graduating from
college with four degrees at twelve, Yeah, now I barely
got out of eighth grade, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
And sometimes you think maybe it's just destiny. Like Michael
Jordan's the only person in his family over five ten.
I think you've met his brother. His brother's like five
to eight. All his parents and relatives were all like
five seven, five eight, five nine, and then there's this
six to sixth guy who becomes the greatest player of
all time. It doesn't make sense. Or like Serena and
Venus Williams. Venus Williams had a very good career, not
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diminishing it, a very good career. Serena had the greatest
career of all time. What's the difference? Like they both
were raised in the same household, with the same tennis lessons,
with the same dayag just.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
They're built different, right, But Venus Venus is today is
the older type tennis player. With her style, Serena was power.
You'd never seen that before. You have to go back
to Martina. She ushered in power and Serena took that
and it was just nobody was playing like that. And
also sometimes you get the younger sibling who succeeds or
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is a better athlete, better performer, whatever it might be.
But they benefited by being the younger sibling. There you
get to see your brother's sister. So it's just kind
of fascinating that you look now and we're also in
an arrow of sports where we have athlete Tom Brady's
playing until he's forty five, Lebron at forty it's not
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out of the question where you go, Khali, these guys
are still playing at a high level. Djokovic, he's old
in tennis, still playing at a very high level. But
that's what's amazing. You got both ends of the spectrum now.
Didn't used to be where you had players in their
upper thirties early forties still at the top of their game.
That's new in the last you know, ten to fifteen years,
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maybe ten years as far as phenoms. Somebody who's twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
that's been around, been around for a long long time
and will continue. But also you're looking at sometimes families
attach their future financial future to somebody who's really young. Hey,
he's a really good golfer. You know, we're going to
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move around, he's going to go to a different high school,
We're going to move like then all of a sudden,
you're putting pressure on that kid at twelve or thirteen,
fourteen fifteen. You got to succeed. We're hounting on you.
You see this with actors in Hollywood. Hey, you're nine
and you're on a sitcom, we're following you.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, there is some of that though, where you know,
it's not for everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
There's obviously not just one path to get to where
we're talking about. But the only way for some people
that you can get there is to be all in.
If you're kind of like, well, okay, yeah, give the
basketball thing a try, or give the acting thing a try,
but after college, well now it's too late, or you
know what I mean. There's times that you have to
go all in at twelve years old and move your
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family from you know, Massachusetts to California because Tom House
is going to start training your kid, like okay, well yeah,
this is how we have.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
To do it. You have to be all in.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And Cooper Flagg's parents had to be all in that
he's leaving from Maine to go to Florida and doing
that a couple of years ago, and here he is
seventeen years of age. But I always go back to
Toddnovich and his dad, Marv Marinovich, and he wanted his
son to be robo quarterback and and Todd did succeed.
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He was a good USC quarterback and uh I think
he played in some playoff games with the Raiders. Of course,
he's had some personal problems as well. I don't know
if his father pushing him fed into that. Like he
didn't have McDonald's like there. You know he's famous for
you never had, you know, processed food. And you know,
he just wanted to live his life and be normal.
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He just didn't know what normal was. So parents can
sometimes ruin it. But when you have the you know,
something special, someone special, that's what's interesting. Now what role
do you play? But I always go back to how
bad do you want it? Because if you want it,
then I'm gonna want it. But I don't want to
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be the one waking you up, dragging you around the country,
you know, going to AAU events, playing in soccer matches
in four different states, hockey travel. I mean, parents are
wonderful when they're accommodating their son or daughter. It's when
it becomes about them, that's when it's a problem. We'll
take a break, We'll settle on a poll question. Just
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versus Canada night in basketball, Canada is really good, France
is good, Germany has been good. I expect Spain to
be good. The question is how good can they be?
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Can you be good for four games? Like you can
do a one off and somebody can surprise somebody, but
can you be really good to bordering on great for
four days or four games? Five games, six games? I
don't know how many they play in totality, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
In the Olympics, if you go all the way to
the gold medal game, it's eight.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Games, eight games? Okay, thank you? Can you be great? Therefore,
it's not a fluke if you win the gold medal.
If you're going to get to that point and you're
playing seven games, you get to the gold medal game,
then you've established yourself as being a good team. And
Canada has a really good roster. And you go back
to the Vince Carter effect on Canadian basketball. Now I
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talk about Staf Curry's impact on the NBA with three
point shooters, you can go back and just say it
started with Vince Carter in Canada. Now, Damon Stodomayer was there.
That was you know, a long time before that, but
you know Vince being there and he was an aerial display,
so in a hockey craze country, you were seeing this great.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I go back to Leo Routins who played at Syracuse
and he was from Canada, and he was one of
the first guys from Canada where I go, Oh, I
don't know how much basketball they play up there, but
he was a really good shooting big man, probably six ' ten.
And you just didn't talk about Canadian basketball, but now
you do. Now you're not surprised where you go, Oh,
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he's from Canada. You don't go really, You're like, okay,
there's another one, yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Ice hockey, I assume is still the national sport of Canada,
the most popular or curly to play curling. I wonder
how far up the chain basketball is now played indoors
cold weather. You know, I know there's other sports Soccer
they do, Okay, I wonder Basketball Football League, yeah, c SOLID.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I love CF.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I want a basketball number two.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, they certainly have success and they have players playing
in the NBA, and that's what you want growing up.
You want to see somebody like you playing at a
high level, you know, playing in a sport where you
go okay, And that's what Canada has been able to
do in the last twenty years. There's a lot of
really good players that you don't realize are from Canada.
(24:34):
I think Steve Nash he kind of started this too
at a higher level. Uh certainly had Steve and Vince Carter.
I don't know if there's anybody else that comes to mind.
Vancouver Grizzlies with.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
That great unions.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I always thought that that was a shout out by
the clash. You know, sure Reef don't Lincoln? Yeah, sure,
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Speaker 3 (25:10):
All right, So what's the pole question, Seat O'Connor.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Which would be worse USA Basketball losing to Canada or France?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Which would americ be more bothered by?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Okay, France has the home court advantage. You have to
factor that in. If it's in a different country and
France won, If the Olympics were in Brazil and France,
one might be a little bit different. But France at
home and you got Rudy Gobert and you've got Victor Wimbenyama,
So I start there. Buckets are going to be hard
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to come by if you come inside. I don't know
who else is on the right. Like Nicholas Batoum feels
like he's fifty years of age, but he still plays great.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
In these games.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, Marv, oh yeah, Now he's the black Larry Bird.
Is that the French Larry Bird?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
The French Larry Bird? Who called him that he could be?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Like?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Oh that was Vincent Goodwill from Yahoo Sports yesterday. He's
like Evan Fournier plays like Larry Bird when it comes
to these games. I don't think there's shame in losing.
I don't because I mean, look at the draft, look
at the number of foreign born players, Look at the
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number of players from France that are coming into the NBA,
and they're going to continue to come in, and France
is going to be a power if they aren't already.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yes, America doesn't handle losing very well, right, especially our game. Yeah,
but we've lost before in our game And how did
that go over? I don't know, did you what are
you upset?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Were you like? Damn it?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
We got to get the dreams team back out there.
This might be the thing.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
People weren't like that, you know, like they're no dream
team that's a bunch of losers. Let's get the good
guys out there. Well, that's why they put the Dream
Team in there. It was called the Redeemed Team, the
Redeemed Team team. I know, I know they had failed.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yes they did. I know we're territorial. I get that.
I just if Canada wins like I wouldn't be shocked,
but I'd be surprised. Yeah, I'd be surprised because I'm
told this is the most talented team ever, more so
than the Dream Team. Okay, all I know is you
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don't have Michael Jordan and even Charles Barkley. Charles was
the leading scorer for the Olympic team with the Dream Team. Uh,
you had some ceremonial picks for the Dream Team. But
I don't know if is this roster that much better?
I don't know, Oh, because I don't know if there's
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is there somebody equal to Jordan? And the answers no,
is there somebody equal to Barkley? And I would say no.
At that time Barkley was was that MVP season? I like,
the next season did he win the MVP? And you know,
we know Jordan's history there. You know, Bird was a
shell of his former self. You know, Chris Mullen was there,
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you know, at Stockton Malone. I mean, you had a
really talented roster. But I don't know when you compare
the two, is this team that much better?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I guess yes, don.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I think it would be worse if we lost to Canada.
I'm just put it out there. I think people, the
average persons maybe not following it would be like, this
isn't hockey, this is basketball. We gotta beat Canada. Maybe
we don't know what's going on in the euro steps
and you know, foreign country year steps across the pond.
They played the game differently, and we're not used to
playing that kind of game against that team that's been
together many years or whatever it is. I think that
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can be dismissed fatter than losing to Canada.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, but Team USA and hockey based, you know versus
Canada Olympic team. Nobody's you know Team USA would win,
are you? I mean, is it that big of an
upset up?
Speaker 5 (29:15):
There probably was, I'll bet you up, like on sports radio,
not being facetious, they probably were really upset by that.
I think if Canada beat USA, that's an interering level
of bragging rights for Canada, like we're the best basketball
in this in North America.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
There's a lot of Canadian players who are in the NBA. Yeah,
And that's what people don't realize. You say, oh, wait,
he's from Canada. Yeah, I don knew that. Thank you,
you give me the Canadian roster?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Can you give me? You know?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And then Zach EDI's not even playing for that team,
which now he's the two time player of the year.
He's not a great or considered to be a great
NBA player, but still he's been two time college player
of the Year. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
See, while we're looking up the Canadian player the two
thousand and four Olympic team, right, Alan Iverson, Stefan Marbury,
Dwayne Wade, Carlos Boozer, Carmelo Anthony Lebron, James A. Mecca
okafor Shawn Mary and Amari Stodemeyer, Tim Duncan lamar Odom
and Richard Jefferson got a bronze medal. People went absolutely
ballistic on those dudes. Those who know basketball didn't do
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that to them. Well, you weren't a hot taker in
two thousands, for sure, Still get more measured.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I know. It's it's wire to wire. I'm not a
hot taker. I'm gonna be measured here. I think my
audience deserves that. Yes, Paul on the Canadian national team.
You got Logan's Dort. You love him, Lou Dort.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, but he plays in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
He's a very good player.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
R J.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Barrett, Alexander Walker, Dylan Brooks, Sjay Gilgis, Jamal Murray. Got
some shooters, Kelly Olennok picking up four and for rebounds.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
That doesn't help my argument.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
I saved him for the end. Okay, Trey Lyles names
you know, Okay, but you do have a respectable roster
here and put you know, it's not like when you
see Spain or Argentina and you're like, oh my god,
these guys are so good.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Well, these guys haven't played in the NBA. They just
stay in their home country and play. And it's always
these countries that the team is the same and they
play together all the time. Those are the teams you
have to worry about. It's not just let's just put
together all these all stars, because that doesn't always equate
to success. It's that guy knows his role on this
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team and it's been the same role for seven years.
That's when you have an upset, That's when you get
a surprise there. All right, So that's the poll question.
What would be worse if Team USA Hey lost to
Canada or France.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yes, early Pole results have seventy Canada.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Let sneak in a couple of phone calls. Doug in
North Carolina leads us off on this Wednesday. Good morning,
Doug Hey.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Dan, you were talking about that fine line that parents
face between simply encouraging their kids and living vicariously through
their kids, and I want to talk about one dad
who clearly crossed over that line. The best sports biography
book that I've ever read, and I'm not even a
tennis fan, but if you're a reader, get a copy
of Open by Andrea Legacy. It's four hundred pages of
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how much he hated tennis. But it's how tennis was
tied into his relationship with his father, who I think
was an immigrant and I think he was a boxer
if I remember correctly, And he decided when the boy
was two years old that this kid was going to
be great at tennis, and Legacy hated it, and he
talked about when he fell in love with stephie Graff.
That's what we bonded over. She had a dominating father herself.
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And I'm wondering, in all your years, have you ever
interviewed an athlete who went on to become great at
what they do but maybe it was in search of
parental love. If you've ever or talked to any great
athlete about that.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, it's a great point, Doug, and I did talk
to Dale Earnhardt Junior, and he was looking for parental love.
Junior was looking for his dad's love. Did talk to
Andre Agassi interviewed him. I read the book. It's heartbreaking
in there because his dad wanted something that his son
didn't want. But you you're good at it, but you
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don't want to hurt the relations. You don't want to
disappoint your parents. And I think Andre did it. And
you know, then there were a lot of things off
the court that he got into, you know, was style
over substance, where like, oh, this guy's a flash. He
looks like he's his star celebrity, but let's see him win,
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and then he became one of the greats. But I
can understand that where I'm gonna do this, my dad
wants me to do this, and then that's that's that's
the bond that you have. And then you decide you
don't want to do it anymore. Oh my god, I'm
going to hurt dad's feelings or Dad's going to be
bad at me. Dad's going to be angry like that's
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imagine if you're a child in your fourteen and all
of a sudden you say, I don't want to play
baseball anymore, and you got to go tell your dad.
Even though you're really good at it, you just don't
like it, and it happens all the time, or you
stay in it because you have to because you don't
want to disappoint your parents. It's a very, very very
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tricky thing. Thankfully, I had four kids who weren't good athletes,
so never had to worry about that. Never problem solve. Yeah,
Travel teams nope, not here. All Star teams, nope, not here.
But they tried. And that's all we said. If you start,
then you finish. That's it. If you don't like it,
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you still have to play the entire season. But even then,
you know I said, yeah, I don't want you to play,
because you think I want you to play, and you
know they finally realize that let me take a break.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Got her Play of the day up next.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp Oh my
god the Play of the day.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Later on Time play this is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Check this out. Oh my godness, that wouldn't be on
the Kay signs and they under dune. Reese Hearns makes
baseball history, the first man ever touched five extra bass
and the Stars two games and there is.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Little doubt Reese hines he plays for the Reds. He
has certainly made an impact here in a short period
of time. Hit a home run that was four hundred
forty nine feet on Monday, four fifty eight on Tuesday.
Those are two of the five longest home runs since
twenty fifteen by any player in his.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
First two baseball games.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So first player to have multiple four hundred foot homers
in his first two career games since Trevor's story with
the Rockies in twenty sixteen. Balley Sports, Ohio. I would
get this guy into home run derby right now. I
would fast track him into home run Derby. Hey, you've
only been up for a couple of games. That's okay,
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you can be. He's sort of a slam dunk contest,
so you could be. Mc McClung. Yes, be like calling in.
You haven't played who cares? Just hit home runs? Yeah,
Paul Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Reyes Hines for the Reds midseason call up. Two home
runs and two games. I did the math eighty games
to go. He's on pace for eighty two home runs.
Check on that in a little bit. He's twenty three years
old six four two fifteen r E C E HI
n DS from Niceville, Florida. Niceville, twenty nineteen draft pick
of the Reds.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
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should be. Keeping an eye on the Yankees as I
always do. They've been the worst team in baseball for
(37:25):
the last month. Now, all of a sudden, the GM
Brian Cashman is going on the road.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
What does that mean.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I mean, it's not a good sign, but all of
a sudden things are so bad. The GM is now
on the road.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Cashman's here.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
We got to win now, Yes, yeah, he said to
the media. Because of how we've been plainlately, I decided
to join us on the road and they asked why,
and he didn't give any.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Reason unless you're going on the road to do a
little more intel on what Aaron Boone is doing as
your manager. I mean, I'm shocked that Aaron Boone is
kept his job. I'm not for somebody being fired, but
understanding that franchise, if George stein Renter was still alive,
Aaron Boone would be gone and a while ago. But
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we got caught up in the Yankees, and you go, well,
are they still the Yankees?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Now, they started off well, you basically have two players
in the lineup that are really good, and then I mean,
it's a poorly constructed lineup, so you're asking Judge and
Soto to be even greater than what they already are.
When's the last time the Yankees were in the World
Series was at eight.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Marvind and nine, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
They're always in the playoffs. They've only missed the playoffs
three times in the past twelve.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It's hard to miss the playoffs when you spend that
much money. In fact, you should be fired if you
don't make the playoffs with that payroll. Yes, Martin.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Have the Dodgers become the Yankees as the preeminent team? Sure,
it's almost like Georgia Alabama. Georgia is now the top
dog no pun intended in college football from what Alabama
used to be. So I think it's the same correlation.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I've got the odds to win the college football championship
and it's Georgia, followed closely by Ohio State, Texas, how
about this Oregon? How about that Alabama? Then following them
a distant fifth there. Well, times have changed. Also, did
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you see Georgia's offensive line? It averages I think six
seven three forty something like that. And I'll go back
to a conversation that I've mentioned before with a now
retired college coach and he would listen to the show
and he said, oh, you keep talking about how everybody's
going to get money nil and that offensive lineman are
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going to get nil.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
And he goes, what are we going to get in pizza?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And I said, coach, you win with your offensive and
defensive line. And then he stopped because he knows that's true.
And this is a situation where if you look at
the success of Michigan and Washington and Georgia Alabama, what
do they all have in common. They've had really good
offensive lines. Washington had a really good offensive line, Michigan
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always has a good offensive line, Georgia great offensive line.
And then I even said to the coach, I said,
if I had nil money, I'm going to give it
to my offensive and defensive line because I'm starting there.
I got my offensive and defensive lines for the next
three or four years.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
That's where you win. So I love rubbing it in
his face.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
You know, when somebody says, oh, they're going to pay
a million dollars for a defensive lineman, and I always
sometimes forward in an article to him, I go, hey,
what do you think?
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
So, the Georgia recruiting class for the offensive line, the
two lightest guys are three five. The two happiest guys
are three sixty five and three ninety one.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, twenty twenty three. Now they give out the Joe
Moore winner for the best offensive line. Last year it
was Washington. They went to the national title game. Twenty
twenty two, Michigan went thirteen and one. Twenty twenty one,
Michigan went twelve and two. Twenty twenty. Alabama won a
national title. Twenty nineteen, LSU one defeated won a national title.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Give me a great offensive and defensive line, certainly a
great offensive line, all righty One hour in the books,
two more to go. More phone calls here coming out,
and the great Gus Johnson will stop by as well.
One hour in the books, two more to go on
this Wednesday,