December 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan Patrick reacts to Philip Rivers joining the Colts practice squad and explains why the longtime QB is not a surefire Hall of Famer. Plus, Notre Dame's reaction to the CFP Committee is creating more waves across multiple confrences.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the main story, and who would have thought this would
be a big story, a story at any point this year,
the cold signing Philip Rivers to the practice squad. Now
everybody seems to be focusing on and maybe I started
this of he's a semi finalist for the Hall of
Fame this year. Now I don't think he's a first
ballot Hall of Famer. In fact, I think he's a
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borderline Hall of Famer. But I'm also wondering about this.
Once he gets on the roster, he doesn't have to
play in a game. Once he's officially on the roster
right now, practice squad. When he's on the roster, then
they start the clock again. He won't be eligible until
twenty thirty one, that is, unless he plays next year
as well. But I'm hoping they find somebody, maybe another grandfather,
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that they can put in for Philip Rivers. But it's
a big story. I don't think he's going to be
playing against Seattle.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
If you're going to make your debut after a five
year drought of not playing and you're going to come
in and play in Seattle against that Seattle defense, yikes.
Isn't there another quarterback somewhere in the world who might
be a little better than Philip Rivers. Now, I understand
that he understands the offense. He's in contact with Shane
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Stike and the head coach on a weekly basis. I
understand all of that. Are you trying to tell me
that there's not another quarterback who might be just a
better option and a little younger than Philip Rivers? Just
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A couple of movements on betting lines that caught my attention.
The Chargers were favored or getting three and a half
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against the Chiefs. At the Chiefs they were getting three
and a half, now it's four and a half. The
Vikings were getting six against the Cowboys. Now they're getting
five and a half. Just little things like that. You know,
I'm always curious. We get to midweek and when the
sharps decide that they're going to bet. But the Chargers
now getting four and a half against the Chiefs. I
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think the reality set in. The Chiefs and the Dolphins
have the same record. I think they're both six and seven,
and you go, wait, oh my gosh. Now the Dolphins
had played pretty well and tried to salvage a season
with maybe a winning record when it's all said and done.
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But with the Chiefs and you go, oh, that's when
it starts to sink in of just how bad this
has been. Now, and we love to do this. We
react quickly and we jump to conclusions. If you're Andy Reid,
do you want to stay around for this?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They went in as a super Bowl contender, maybe the
best odds to go to the super Bowl. Even as
late as a couple of weeks ago, they were still
in the mix to be the super Bowl favorite from
the AFC.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And now it's ah, does Andy Reid want to stay
around for this? What he retire?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Maybe, you know, get a front office job with the
Chiefs like that happened quickly here, But the Chiefs are different.
This will be Kelsey's last year. They thought they shored
up the offensive line. Still got to be able to
run the football as great as Mahomes is, and you know,
Worthy and Rice got to be more consistent.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So Chris Jones, I'm watching yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Or the day before an analyst where all of a
sudden say, you know, Chris Jones just isn't the way
you know, he's not that player he once was. I'm like,
a couple of weeks ago, it was like, man, Chris
Jones is awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It happens quickly. Oh, Travis Kelsey's washed.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, I'm be surprised he played one more year, but
he's still a first ballot Hall of Famer. But he
does look like he's on his last legs. He had
one catch in that last game. So now you start
to look at a bigger picture. With Andy Reid, we're
looking a bigger picture for Mike Tomlin. Like this happens
quickly in the NFL, and that's what's surprising. The Chiefs
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in this game against the Chargers, and you know they
have to win. They have to win, and they have
to get a lot of help. But those are some
of the things that I think look at big picture.
Just because Mike Tomlin won the game this past weekend
doesn't mean that I don't think that he's going to
take another job or maybe go into TV this next year.
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I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it feels like I'd
be more surprised if he came back to Pittsburgh. But
also you have to factor in who is better than
Mike Tomlin. It's just like we found out with James
Franklin at Penn State. He might not be that upper
echelon guy, but he's pretty good. And you bring in
Matt Campbell who has been pretty good, but he doesn't
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beat the big teams. His record against you know, top
ten teams is not good. And you might be replacing
James Franklin with Matt Campbell and they're basically the same
kind of coach. Be careful when you say we got
get of that guy, who were we bringing in? And
same thing with Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Who are you
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bringing in Who's going to be better than him?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Do I think he's underachieved greatly in the last decade,
Yes I do. In that city with that talent, yes
I do. But the key has been and the key
is for every one of these coaches, who's your quarterback?
I mean, Aaron Rodgers, I don't think plays next year. Now,
you got to go in and get a quarterback. Mason Rudolph,
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he'll be a bridge quarterback. Can you get somebody? Is
there somebody in there? Are you going to trade? And
like you got to have a game plan here. If
I'm Mike Tomlin and I'm part of the draft process,
I'm like, I got to get a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Because if you don't.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Just like we saw in Denver when Sean Payton came
in that wasn't his quarterback, and what did he do.
He said, bow Knicks is my quarterback and he wanted
bow Knicks. Look at Mike Rabel. If Rabel doesn't have
Drake may Rabel's not your coach of the year. But
he found Drake may Ben Johnson's not taking the Chicago
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job if he has a bridge quarterback there he wants to.
He was gonna wait and take the right job because
I was going to have the right quarterback. And remember
when Jaden Daniels was a top two, top three, top
four quarterback, or if you're going to start your franchise
it was Jaden Daniels. That was three months ago, four
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months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
That changed.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's quick, h he's injury prone. Well that was the
big knock that he was injury prone and his build.
He was slight for a quarterback, very talented, had maybe
the best rookie season that an NFL quarterback's ever had.
But all of a sudden, it's like, oh, that's right
Jaden Daniels. Because it wasn't long ago. If you were
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going to start your franchise with any quarterback. Now, people
would have taken Jaden Daniels and it would have been
a landslide. Now Drake may might even get a bow
Nicks in there, maybe Caleb Williams. But that's how quickly
it changes in the NFL. And that's what surprised me
with the Chiefs. All of a sudden you start to
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hear Andy Reid want to be in a rebuild. I
didn't know they'd be in a rebuild, but it certainly
feels that way. Seeton w what's pole question today?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Which would be more important to you? Playing a couple
more games of the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Can I have both? You can? But for the sake
of this poll question.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh okay, Well, this is the thing that I'm curious
about with Philip Rivers, because if he makes the roster,
and now we reset the clock and it's five more
years before he's eligible, I think we're going to be
looking at his numbers and all of a sudden they
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aren't going to be impressive. I think there's so many
great quarterbacks putting up so many great numbers that I
think he might get pushed down the totem pole a
little bit that he has you know, longevity, durability, put
up some big numbers, never won anything. But I think
he kind of gets he's going to get lumped in
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with that sort of second grouping there, and he might
be up against Aaron Rodgers going into the Hall of
Fame in twenty thirty one if Rodgers doesn't play next year.
So I wonder about that with Philip, Now, if he
would come, if he comes back and plays, and let's
say they go to the playoffs. Let's say they win
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a game in the playoffs. Now you've added to your
resume something that's special. Maybe it's just one game, big win,
but it becomes a great story. And I think that
was the curiosity I had that, Okay, Philip has been
coaching his son's high school team, and now you're going
to play.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And I mean, it almost feels like a movie. It does.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It feels like a grown up, rudy version of Oh
my god, he's out there and he's forty four years
of age, and you know he's a grandpa. But you
come back and there's a chance to add to your resume.
I don't think he can take away from his resume
if he comes back he doesn't play well. I don't
think anybody's expecting that. But if you reset the clock now,
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all of a sudden, you bring in a whole new
wave of quarterbacks that you might be competing for votes with.
And he's a semi finalist this year, but once he
goes to the active roster, then he's taken out a
consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yeah, PAULI, this is what every NFL player wants. They
want to come back for four weeks. Steve Young comes
on the show every month and says, if I could
play right now, I would. You asked JJ Watt if
he could walk out of the booth, play two games
and they go right back to the booth and push
his clock back five years, he probably would. And this
is one of those anomaly situations with Breeze that he
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knows it's a temp job at the most.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, but JJ wants a first ball in Hall of Famer.
Philip Rivers is not.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I guess what Philip Rivers is. I think forty four?
You said, yeah, the Hall of Fame is the Hall
of Fame or not. And he has no control and
he gets to play one or two or three more
football games for a good team.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
This is the dream, Yes, Tod.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Not to be Debbie down, but I'll where that had
What if it's a total disaster. Though he goes out
there pick six, he's over and underthrowing receivers, the balls
got a little squiggled to it, and he looks like
he has no business being out there for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I don't think anybody would be surprised at that. I
think we'll be surprised if he's good. I don't think
anybody's gone, uh yeah, doesn't look good. No mobility, no
arm strength. Hall of Fame for you now, no, I
you know, once again, I think he's a borderline Hall
of Famer, and I'm not involved in the process.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yes, Paul, here are some of the semifinalists he's up against,
specifically at the quarterback position this year. It's Tim, it's
Drew Brees, and it's Eli Manning in year two. And
everyone thinks Eli Manning year two is in. And I
can't imagine Drew Brees not getting in. Oh yeah, Drew
Brees should be first ballel Hall of That would be
a shocker. Yeah yeah, yeah, Drew Brees. So that means
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it's tough this year for him.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I once again, I'm glad I don't vote on
this process, you know, because it's a thankless job. But
I don't view Philip Rivers as anywhere near a first
Bowel Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, if he gets in grade, I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just like Eli. I don't view him as a Hall
of Famer. But he did the things that got people's attention.
He won two of the biggest Super Bowls. He stopped
an undefeated team, he beat the Patriots twice, and he
played really well in those games. Those two seasons are
going to get him into the Hall of Fame with
his name. He did have durability, you know, rarely missed
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a game if he missed any and you know he's
got three hundred touchdowns and sixty thousand yards. But you know,
they it changes though the numbers of how important you
like Matt Ryan. You know, you got the MVP that
makes him probably a Hall of Famer, and he got
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to the Super Bowl that but then they lost that
Super Bowl in dramatic fashion. So I don't you know,
once again, you're trying to sort this out that Philip Rivers.
It's a great story, great story, and I hope that
he comes back, and he's able to play where he's
proud of how he's playing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, pauling.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Phil Rivers right now is sixth all time and touchdown
passes four twenty one. He's ahead of Marino, Roethlisberger, Matt Stafford. Yeah,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Once again, it's the eye test, because sometimes when you say, hey,
is such and such a Hall of Famer and you
go yes, or how quickly you say yes? Because sometimes
when we have people on, I'll go, hey, such and
such hall of Famer? Then no, or you know, like
Matthew Stafford, who did we have on? Was it South
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pal Antonio And he's a voter And I said Matthew Stafford,
He's like.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Like okay, because.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Then you know, I've had somebody who was a voter
before who said, you know, Stafford winning the MVP that
would solidify the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I kind of I don't know why,
but I feel that way about Philip Rivers too. I mean,
I know he didn't win what everybody expected him to win,
but he was clearly one of the best quarterbacks of
his era.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But he was never the best quarterback of his era.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Not the best, but one of the best for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, he was probably in the top five to seven.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Is that fair?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Stat wise? He was always there with touchdowns. He only
led the league in touchdowns once. He was a eight
time Pro bowler. Was never All Pro? Yeah, first team
All Pro.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, so never the best quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But no, he went against some pretty pretty impressive resumes there.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, Paulin, this.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Comes down to not appearing in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well, he didn't do well in the playoffs. Yes, I
think he had a losing record in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Yes, his record in the postseason is five and seven
for his career in seven playoff appearances.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
All right, we'll settle on a poll question.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The Notre Dame story is not going away because they're
athletic director Pete Bavakua at a press conference yesterday. Now,
there was one thing that came up during the press conference,
aside from my name, that I found really interesting, and
I'll talk about that coming up. We'll take a break here,
we'll get to your phone calls as well, And I
think anything else that needs to be mentioned here, anything anything, Yes.
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
If Philip Rivers starts for the Colts at any point,
well let's say he starts on Sunday, that'll be a
gap of oney eight and six days between games. So
you can go back to nineteen seventy. That's as far
back as they go with these numbers. The only NFL
quarterback with the longer gap between games played and these
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were starts was John Reeves. He played for the Houston
Oilers and he played in nineteen eighty one. His next
NFL Start was a replacement player for the Buccaneers in
nineteen eighty seven, so he went six years without playing
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without playing there. Now that was the strike year nineteen
eighty seven. Well, I remember covering those games. I was
in New York and it was like, oh my gosh,
you're going out there. It was a mess because you know,
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players crossing the picket line, and I just remember, this
isn't going to end well. And then it finally ended.
But the strike year nineteen eighty seven, we'll get phone
calls coming up. Notre Dame press conference yesterday the athletic
director Pete Bavaqua, and he had some things to say.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now, this this was a scheduled press conference.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think there were a lot of people, including myself,
that thought, Okay, he's going to have this press conference
after coming on our show and talking about how there
was permanent damage done by the ACC, that the ACC
apparently didn't go to bat or had some disparaging comments
about Notre Dame. But Notre Dame's not part of the ACC.
They are with the other sports. So I understand they're
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going to promote Miami and also you're in the ACC
with all your other sports. But not football. If you
go to a bowl game, the ACC doesn't get money
from Notre Dame. So I understand some of this, and
you know the back and forth, but I would caution
people in my business, don't let your hatred for Notre
Dame cloud your judgment of actually looking at this story
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with both sides. Or you know, your love for Notre Dame,
don't let that cloud your judgment with this. I think
everybody should understand if your school was ranked higher than
another school for five weeks and then all all of
a sudden, nothing changed until it changed with the selection
committee and you got jumped by that other school, you
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would have a problem with them. And that's the only
point that I make with this, Miami. If you want
to say head to head, they should have been ranked
in front of Notre Dame and we could have prevented
all of this. But there's back and forth going on,
and here is the athletic director disappointed by the ACC.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
What we were.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Really surprised by and disappointed was how the ACC conference
really went on a social media campaign, in my opinion,
attacking our football program, and it raised a lot of eyebrows.
And you know, we made our feelings known that we
didn't particularly understand this, and it just kind of puzzled
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us that a conference that's home to over six hundred
of our student athletes walking around this CAMPU today. I
guess chose to go down that road. I guess intellectually
I understand it, but I certainly don't agree with it.
And why would you attack an unbelievably important business partner
of yours in football and a member of your conference
in twenty four other sports?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Okay, once again, Miami's affiliation with the ACC is a
full member. Notre Dames is not the football program. You know,
you play a limited ACC schedule. You're not sharing revenue
with football when you get to the playoffs. So I
understand now, I don't know what was said in the meeting,
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As I told you that, I had a source who
said this topic was three hours long. Notre Dame Miami
with the College Football Playoff Committee three hours And they've
been talking about this for quite some time. Everybody knew
what it was to where it turned out to be
with Miami and Notre Day and that sort of the
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back and forth fallout with this, And my point is
and will always be Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It feels like there's a hey, you.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Guys got you wanted this, you got it, you deserve this,
you you know, eat it. And I understand that there's
a hatred for Notre Dame. But also if you're looking
at this, just take out these two schools and put
your your team and then another team in there and
then say and then say to yourself, how would you
feel if that happened? Now the other stuff, I don't
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think that they should have said, hey, we're not going
to play in a bowl game, or you know, maybe
they pull out of the ACC with the other programs
that they have, maybe they joined the Big Ten with
everything but football. I mean, I don't know what permanent
damage means. But now the Big twelve commissioner, Rent your Mark,
he came in. He's not happy with Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
I will say this, and I'm and I'm a little
spoken about it. I don't like how Notre Dame's reacted
to it. I think Pete's his behavior has been egregious.
It's been egregious going after Jim Phillips. When they saved
Notre Dame during COVID, we all knew and it was
very transparent Hunter was very transparent about it. The chair
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that as Notre Dame in Miami got closer together head
to head would be a factor. Okay, BYU lost, they
came closer together head to head made a difference in
that decision.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So I think he is totally out of bounds in
his approach. And he was in the room, I tell
him the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, that's the big twelve Commissioner, Rent your mark. The
thing that I would say to the commissioner is what
if BYU was where Notre Dame was for five weeks
and Miami jumped BYU? Your response would be what, Commissioner, Hey,
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that's what we signed up for, because that's what he
said with Notre Dame in Pete Bovakua once again, I
couldn't care less about Notre Dame if they're in or out.
I do care about the process of this. That's the
bigger picture. That's the issue that we should focus on.
You know, this is a committee that you know, it's clandestine,
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we don't know what's going on, different agendas, and you're
trying to get a process that Okay, let me at
least understand the process, that's all. And then if it
doesn't go our way. Okay, at least I understand it.
I don't understand the process. And I told you about
teams that play in conference championships. The last twenty two,
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twenty of the last twenty two that lost in a
conference championship game dropped in the rankings. Alabama this year
is one of those two. I didn't understand it. I
thought they got roughed up by Georgia and they should
have dropped. But once again, when a source tells me
last week, in his mind, this is before everything happened.
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When he says to me, I think they're setting Notre
Dame up to be disappointed his words. So something was
at play, it feels like, and that's where I'm saying
to people in my business, look at both sides to this.
Don't let your judgment, you know, your opinion of Notre
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Dame cloud your judgment. That would be the only thing
that I would say. And you know, Pete Bavoqua on
this feels like a petty tour. You know, I understand
where people are going to go, Oh, who do you
think you are?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Notre Dames? Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Okay, they have a top twelve provision they've somehow navigated
negotiated that they're going to be in the top twelve
next year.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Then they're in the playoffs. This leaked out over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Here is Bavaqua talking about that top twelve provision.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
People have asked me, well, how come Notre Dame gets
that benefit, and it's you know, we still we have
to prove it on the field more than anybody. I mean,
we still to put ourselves in that area, that zip
code of a top twelve team, but we want to
protect ourselves against like what happened this year.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, why did they give them that top twelve provision?
If you if you have to earn it on the field,
then you don't need a top twelve provision.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That was surprising, Yes, Dodd, wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Every school want to protect themselves in a similar fashion
if they're going to be a bubble team and in
and around the twelve spot.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, the en to be guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The schools and conferences can't do that. I mean Notre
Dames just stand alone. There's nobody like Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Did they offer an explanation why they agreed to that,
I don't, I don't know. I don't need to explain
why they said. Okay, yeah, that's I see your point.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Somebody should ask the chairman of the committee ask, you know,
why did you agree to this?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Did you agree to this? Why did you agree to this?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I'm sure he'll join us this week.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I'm sure they'd love to. But yeah, that was wild.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But all of that was going on yesterday, the one
thing that stood out was Pete Bvakua, the Notre Dame
athletic director. He talked about Marcus Freeman and he volunteered
this up about Marcus Freeman, NFL coach.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
I make sure that he knows that he will be
where he deserves to be, and that is at the top,
top top tier of college football coaches when it comes
to compensation. Every year, I view his contract, although a
multi year contract, is a living, breathing document that we
will revise every year as need be to make sure
he's where he deserves to be. He knows he has
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that commitment from me and more importantly, from the university.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, because there's some chatter, there was chatter last year
that maybe the Bears would be interested in Marcus Freeman,
and I think his buyout until they extended it. Contract
was four million dollars. Now I think it's forty million
dollars because now the Giants they're on the clock needing
a coach, and would they be interested in Marcus Freeman.
And I think that's what Pete Bavaqua was saying, almost
(27:12):
as if to say, Hey, we're proud that our coaches
wanted by NFL teams, but he's staying here. That's a
living breathing document. I don't know what that means. Has
it got a heartbeat? Most of these college coaches don't
they have living breathing documents.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Contract.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, see, just making it known that that is flexible
at any moment. Yeah, I got a new contract this
week and then another one next week. Yeah, no problem.
Yeah yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It did feel like an announcement to both Marcus Freeman
that if you get an offer, we'll match it, and
to the public if he gets an offer, we're ready
to match it, you know, like, don't even bother.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, So that kind of stood out that he's addressing
that the NFL could be interested in Marcus Freeman and
that they did change the buy out there considerably, I believe,
from four million to four what to you a million?
But we know, you know, these things are broken every year.
It feels like every week.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yes, ton is that also said to assure himself and
the Notre Dame faithful we're not going to miss out
on the playoff and lose our coaches. Just you know,
those two things are not going to both happen in
a short.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Period of time.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Maybe maybe, I mean, I don't know all the agendas
in play here. When Pete agreed to come on and talk,
knowing what the questions were going to be, and then
to then say that there's permanent damage that was done
by the acc he knows what he was doing. Now
I don't know what the fallout. I imagine that we're
(28:38):
going to revisit this in a month from now or
Notre Dame is certainly going to be like, okay, when
you say permanent damage, Okay, now what.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Happens, You're still going to stay in there.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And then what you're going to say, you know what,
We're going to go to the big ten.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Think that's what I most want to know when people
want to know what was the agenda of the playoff
committee with Notre Dame was the agenda to push them
towards joining a conference, because that's what a lot of
people think that this would be a nudge toward And
what is Notre Dame doing this week?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but you can't say it's a push or a
nudge to join a conference and then give the top
twelve provision to Notre Dame that says, have you finished
in the top twelve.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Year in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, you can't have both agendas in play here. And
if it's true that they said to Notre Dame, if
you finished in the top twelve, you're in the playoffs.
While saying oh, looks like they're trying to nudge them
to join a conference, Notre Dame's not joining a conference.
They make their own schedule. I mean, you're going to
(29:40):
take the hit, you get all the money, Like, you're
not gonna do this, You're going to join the ACC.
Why would you join the ACC for football?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah, Paul, is there another athletic team, pro or college
that makes their own schedule? I mean, think about it.
There's nothing in professional or college sports like Notre Dame.
They're an island. They don't answer to anybody. If a
player gets in trouble, they don't have to answer to
a conference commissioner, they don't have to share playoff shares.
They'll take the hit.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The Harlem Globe Trotters make their own schedule.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
I always play that one team though.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, a lot of logistics though, still, oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
If they try to, for lack of a better word,
join a conference and it did wasn't up to what
they had in mind, can you go back to being independent?
Or once the toothpast, you can't put the toothpaste back
in the tube.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
We'll try this for a year or two and or
make some kind of deal with a conference, and then
all of a sudden they decide I liked it back
the way it was. Could they do that?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Why would you join a conference for a year or
whatever whatever the deal is?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Over what a four or five year period of time
that they thought this was, you know, now is the
time to join a conference and it ends up being
something that they wish they didn't do, and now they
want to be independent again. Is that something they'd be
able to do well?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't think that's something that is on the table
that they have the greatest luxury in college football. There's
no reason to join a conference, and if you're going
to join a conference, you're not all of a sudden
going to go you know, on second thought, we didn't
really think this out, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
The other thing about Notre Dame and which makes them
both likable and hateable, is that they are special and
because of this not special necessary positive and negative, but
that they control everything and the brand is they had
their own network. They're in this kind of no man's
land of college football in a good way. So they're
never going to give that up totally.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, No, there's so many schools that would love to
be in the same position with Notre Dame. They would,
but this is going to continue and we'll see what
the repercussions are with the ACC moving forward there. But
I would ask that Big twelve commissioner, if he would
come on, how would you have felt if BYU got
(31:50):
jumped by Miami and BYU your team in your conference
didn't play. I would ask all these conference commissioners because
nobody's going to say, oh, oh, you know what, that's
what we signed up for. So I think it's disingenuous
of the Big twelve commissioner to be critical of Notre
Dame and Pete Babaqua for that part of this. The
other stuff you can be critical of Notre Dame. Yeah
(32:13):
you can. Oh, you gotta take your ball and go. Oh,
you guys think you're bigger than Yes, they probably do.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
They probably are.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I hate to break it to you, Yeah they are.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
That's why they're able to do these things in college.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And the committee is saying you are bigger because you
get a top twelve provision.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Fine. Bamb will be firing though, he'll be He'll be Oh,
he'll be all this is.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
T ball for him.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Oh, he's going to be crushing Notre Dame a little
later on when he joins this. We'll take a break.
We get to your phone calls coming up. Settle on
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Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, we got up there a little bit of a
Philip Rivers poll question. Okay, which would be more important
to you? Playing a few more games or sort of
getting the Hall of Fame voting going. It's a little
tough to word that, I guess, okay, so not getting
in the Hall of Fame, but pushing so pushing the
voting back five years, or let's get the voting going
(34:26):
right now? Yeah, you know, or you can play a
couple of games right now. Playing a few more games
has about fifty five percent of that vote, which I
agree with, I think I think Paul had brought it up.
But the one thing these guys all want is the
ability to play a couple more games and then Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Aye, you get in. That'd be cool.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
If you don't get in, whatever, I know what I
did well, this and that, but man, the ability to
play a couple more game seats.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Philip Rivers is never getting that chance again. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Think the further he gets pushed back, the clock resets,
the tougher it's going to be for him to get in.
Since nineteen ninety, there have been eleven mon modern era
quarterbacks elected to the Hall of Fame. Ten of those
were elected in the first year of eligibility, Dan Fouts,
Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Dan Marino, Steve Young,
(35:14):
Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning. Dan
Fouts was the one who was not elected in his
first year of eligibility.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Oh how stand of the day, start of the day,
start of the day, stant of to day. This is
the state of the day?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh's Amy? Kurt Warner. I didn't even mention him on there,
did I?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Now it's towards the bottom.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Uh. Warner does make sense though, Oh Kurt, Yeah, Kurt
Warner elected on the third bound. I'm surprised Dan Faults
was the first Battlet Hall of Famer. Very good quarterback
with Aeric Coriel. But you know, they went to a
conference title game. Maybe they maybe they went to two,
but they lost the game to the Bengals. They had that,
(36:14):
Oh no, they would have beaten the Dolphins. And then
they played Cincinnati the next week in the AFC title
game and lost that. And I could see Philip Rivers
similar to Dan Fouts in Fouts. You know, that offense
was wonderful to watch. Yeah, Pauline, I could see that too,
Fouts and Rivers being compared. Chargers not making the big game.
(36:35):
But there was a four year window where Fouts led
the NFL passing and seemed to reinvent it almost before
Dan Marino. And he was first team All Pro twice,
second team All Pro twice. That's a monster run. Yeah,
right before Dan Reno showed up. Yeah, had Charlie Joyner,
John Jefferson. They had some fun offensive players. Man, hey
(37:01):
they you know those uniforms you always looked faster you
always looked better.
Speaker 11 (37:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's like somebody who shows up in a tuxedo, they
always look better because they're in a tuxedo.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yes, we should do a list.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Of teams that you rooted for if you didn't have
a dog in the fight, or let's say you're an
NFC fan because the eighties Chargers were up there, UNLV
Rebels basketball. If you didn't have a team, they were
cool back in the day and you just kind of
glmbed on.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, Fab five as well.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I had a couple of phone calls in here, and
we're gonna play whose career would you want?
Speaker 11 (37:35):
Paul?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You want to get? Are we getting stats? And then
we decide whose career.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
No, I'm gonna go names and bios.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Okay, all right, whose career would you want?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
The first one is Philip Rivers. I think he made
seven Pro Bowls, never made it to a Super Bowl,
was never an MVP. Okay. Or Matt Ryan, four time
Pro bowler, won an MVP but had probably the most
and maybe not probably the most painful loss in Super
Bowl history.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I'd rather have Matt Ryan's career. He won an MVP
and he went to the Super Bowl. I like how
we put all the blame on Matt Ryan and not
on the coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
You know, but you still this is a toughie.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'd rather have Matt Ryan's career MVP and he went
to a super Bowl and he's probably going to the
Hall of Fame. Wow, you guys have turned on me.
It's the holiday season.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
It's not anti Matt Ryan. It's anti resume.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Maybe I think it's anti me.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, I mean, even though that was it's not Matt
Ryan's fault that they lost that game by any stretch
of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
But is there a butt.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well no, But I would still want to get there.
I want to play in the super Bowl, even if
it is this crushing loss that haunts him every single.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Day he wakes up out of a sweat.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He does. I believe he still does, because he gets
asked about it. Every round of golf he plays, three
people ask him about it. I know.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I know every super Bowl when he comes on, he
knows he's getting asked the question. I have to kind
of disguise it in a way that we somehow get
there and then he answers it again.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Last time wade him on, we asked him about the
worst loss and we met the NFL weekend. What are
we getting to, Dan?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeh like a trigger. He's right, He's right.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I didn't realize it, but I wasn't talking about the
super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's not what we're saying. Oh my god.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
David in Ohio leads us off. Hi, David, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 11 (39:53):
Hey? What's up?
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (39:54):
I got four order quarterback Ryan time here for you
for the room. Okay, First one is uh Steelers and
World Series.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Winner Steelers World Yes time, Rogers Dodgers.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
Correct, I'd got that one. Next one, uh Fox analyst
and Sketchy Fox analyst, sketchy older.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Quarterback Brady Shady. Brady Shady got that one.
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Number two? Yeah, all right, number third one here, Uh
Bengals QB and Cigar Bengals QUB Cigar.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Older older quarterback Boomer.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (40:52):
He's currently on the roster, Dan.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh Older, Oh Flacco Tobacco.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
He did, Thank you, thank you, thank you, David. That's
pretty good, pretty good. One hour in the books.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Two more to go.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
You should give Dominique Fox where the heads up that
he's going to have to decide. Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan,
Hall of Famers
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the main story, and who would have thought this would
be a big story, a story at any point this year,
the cold signing Philip Rivers to the practice squad. Now
everybody seems to be focusing on and maybe I started
this of he's a semi finalist for the Hall of
Fame this year. Now I don't think he's a first
ballot Hall of Famer. In fact, I think he's a
(00:47):
borderline Hall of Famer. But I'm also wondering about this.
Once he gets on the roster, he doesn't have to
play in a game. Once he's officially on the roster
right now, practice squad. When he's on the roster, then
they start the clock again. He won't be eligible until
twenty thirty one, that is, unless he plays next year
as well. But I'm hoping they find somebody, maybe another grandfather,
(01:11):
that they can put in for Philip Rivers. But it's
a big story. I don't think he's going to be
playing against Seattle.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
If you're going to make your debut after a five
year drought of not playing and you're going to come
in and play in Seattle against that Seattle defense, yikes.
Isn't there another quarterback somewhere in the world who might
be a little better than Philip Rivers. Now, I understand
that he understands the offense. He's in contact with Shane
(01:41):
Stike and the head coach on a weekly basis. I
understand all of that. Are you trying to tell me
that there's not another quarterback who might be just a
better option and a little younger than Philip Rivers? Just
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A couple of movements on betting lines that caught my attention.
The Chargers were favored or getting three and a half
(02:44):
against the Chiefs. At the Chiefs they were getting three
and a half, now it's four and a half. The
Vikings were getting six against the Cowboys. Now they're getting
five and a half. Just little things like that. You know,
I'm always curious. We get to midweek and when the
sharps decide that they're going to bet. But the Chargers
now getting four and a half against the Chiefs. I
(03:05):
think the reality set in. The Chiefs and the Dolphins
have the same record. I think they're both six and seven,
and you go, wait, oh my gosh. Now the Dolphins
had played pretty well and tried to salvage a season
with maybe a winning record when it's all said and done.
(03:25):
But with the Chiefs and you go, oh, that's when
it starts to sink in of just how bad this
has been. Now, and we love to do this. We
react quickly and we jump to conclusions. If you're Andy Reid,
do you want to stay around for this?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They went in as a super Bowl contender, maybe the
best odds to go to the super Bowl. Even as
late as a couple of weeks ago, they were still
in the mix to be the super Bowl favorite from
the AFC.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And now it's ah, does Andy Reid want to stay
around for this? What he retire?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Maybe, you know, get a front office job with the
Chiefs like that happened quickly here, But the Chiefs are different.
This will be Kelsey's last year. They thought they shored
up the offensive line. Still got to be able to
run the football as great as Mahomes is, and you know,
Worthy and Rice got to be more consistent.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So Chris Jones, I'm watching yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Or the day before an analyst where all of a
sudden say, you know, Chris Jones just isn't the way
you know, he's not that player he once was. I'm like,
a couple of weeks ago, it was like, man, Chris
Jones is awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It happens quickly. Oh, Travis Kelsey's washed.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, I'm be surprised he played one more year, but
he's still a first ballot Hall of Famer. But he
does look like he's on his last legs. He had
one catch in that last game. So now you start
to look at a bigger picture. With Andy Reid, we're
looking a bigger picture for Mike Tomlin. Like this happens
quickly in the NFL, and that's what's surprising. The Chiefs
(05:03):
in this game against the Chargers, and you know they
have to win. They have to win, and they have
to get a lot of help. But those are some
of the things that I think look at big picture.
Just because Mike Tomlin won the game this past weekend
doesn't mean that I don't think that he's going to
take another job or maybe go into TV this next year.
(05:23):
I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, it feels like I'd
be more surprised if he came back to Pittsburgh. But
also you have to factor in who is better than
Mike Tomlin. It's just like we found out with James
Franklin at Penn State. He might not be that upper
echelon guy, but he's pretty good. And you bring in
Matt Campbell who has been pretty good, but he doesn't
(05:46):
beat the big teams. His record against you know, top
ten teams is not good. And you might be replacing
James Franklin with Matt Campbell and they're basically the same
kind of coach. Be careful when you say we got
get of that guy, who were we bringing in? And
same thing with Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Who are you
(06:06):
bringing in Who's going to be better than him?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Do I think he's underachieved greatly in the last decade,
Yes I do. In that city with that talent, yes
I do. But the key has been and the key
is for every one of these coaches, who's your quarterback?
I mean, Aaron Rodgers, I don't think plays next year. Now,
you got to go in and get a quarterback. Mason Rudolph,
(06:30):
he'll be a bridge quarterback. Can you get somebody? Is
there somebody in there? Are you going to trade? And
like you got to have a game plan here. If
I'm Mike Tomlin and I'm part of the draft process,
I'm like, I got to get a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Because if you don't.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Just like we saw in Denver when Sean Payton came
in that wasn't his quarterback, and what did he do.
He said, bow Knicks is my quarterback and he wanted
bow Knicks. Look at Mike Rabel. If Rabel doesn't have
Drake may Rabel's not your coach of the year. But
he found Drake may Ben Johnson's not taking the Chicago
(07:07):
job if he has a bridge quarterback there he wants to.
He was gonna wait and take the right job because
I was going to have the right quarterback. And remember
when Jaden Daniels was a top two, top three, top
four quarterback, or if you're going to start your franchise
it was Jaden Daniels. That was three months ago, four
(07:28):
months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
That changed.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's quick, h he's injury prone. Well that was the
big knock that he was injury prone and his build.
He was slight for a quarterback, very talented, had maybe
the best rookie season that an NFL quarterback's ever had.
But all of a sudden, it's like, oh, that's right
Jaden Daniels. Because it wasn't long ago. If you were
(07:51):
going to start your franchise with any quarterback. Now, people
would have taken Jaden Daniels and it would have been
a landslide. Now Drake may might even get a bow
Nicks in there, maybe Caleb Williams. But that's how quickly
it changes in the NFL. And that's what surprised me
with the Chiefs. All of a sudden you start to
(08:12):
hear Andy Reid want to be in a rebuild. I
didn't know they'd be in a rebuild, but it certainly
feels that way. Seeton w what's pole question today?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Which would be more important to you? Playing a couple
more games of the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Can I have both? You can? But for the sake
of this poll question.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh okay, Well, this is the thing that I'm curious
about with Philip Rivers, because if he makes the roster,
and now we reset the clock and it's five more
years before he's eligible, I think we're going to be
looking at his numbers and all of a sudden they
(08:57):
aren't going to be impressive. I think there's so many
great quarterbacks putting up so many great numbers that I
think he might get pushed down the totem pole a
little bit that he has you know, longevity, durability, put
up some big numbers, never won anything. But I think
he kind of gets he's going to get lumped in
(09:18):
with that sort of second grouping there, and he might
be up against Aaron Rodgers going into the Hall of
Fame in twenty thirty one if Rodgers doesn't play next year.
So I wonder about that with Philip, Now, if he
would come, if he comes back and plays, and let's
say they go to the playoffs. Let's say they win
(09:39):
a game in the playoffs. Now you've added to your
resume something that's special. Maybe it's just one game, big win,
but it becomes a great story. And I think that
was the curiosity I had that, Okay, Philip has been
coaching his son's high school team, and now you're going
to play.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And I mean, it almost feels like a movie. It does.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It feels like a grown up, rudy version of Oh
my god, he's out there and he's forty four years
of age, and you know he's a grandpa. But you
come back and there's a chance to add to your resume.
I don't think he can take away from his resume
if he comes back he doesn't play well. I don't
think anybody's expecting that. But if you reset the clock now,
(10:25):
all of a sudden, you bring in a whole new
wave of quarterbacks that you might be competing for votes with.
And he's a semi finalist this year, but once he
goes to the active roster, then he's taken out a
consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yeah, PAULI, this is what every NFL player wants. They
want to come back for four weeks. Steve Young comes
on the show every month and says, if I could
play right now, I would. You asked JJ Watt if
he could walk out of the booth, play two games
and they go right back to the booth and push
his clock back five years, he probably would. And this
is one of those anomaly situations with Breeze that he
(11:02):
knows it's a temp job at the most.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, but JJ wants a first ball in Hall of Famer.
Philip Rivers is not.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
I guess what Philip Rivers is. I think forty four?
You said, yeah, the Hall of Fame is the Hall
of Fame or not. And he has no control and
he gets to play one or two or three more
football games for a good team.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
This is the dream, Yes, Tod.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Not to be Debbie down, but I'll where that had
What if it's a total disaster. Though he goes out
there pick six, he's over and underthrowing receivers, the balls
got a little squiggled to it, and he looks like
he has no business being out there for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I don't think anybody would be surprised at that. I
think we'll be surprised if he's good. I don't think
anybody's gone, uh yeah, doesn't look good. No mobility, no
arm strength. Hall of Fame for you now, no, I
you know, once again, I think he's a borderline Hall
of Famer, and I'm not involved in the process.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yes, Paul, here are some of the semifinalists he's up against,
specifically at the quarterback position this year. It's Tim, it's
Drew Brees, and it's Eli Manning in year two. And
everyone thinks Eli Manning year two is in. And I
can't imagine Drew Brees not getting in. Oh yeah, Drew
Brees should be first ballel Hall of That would be
a shocker. Yeah yeah, yeah, Drew Brees. So that means
(12:15):
it's tough this year for him.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I once again, I'm glad I don't vote on
this process, you know, because it's a thankless job. But
I don't view Philip Rivers as anywhere near a first
Bowel Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, if he gets in grade, I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just like Eli. I don't view him as a Hall
of Famer. But he did the things that got people's attention.
He won two of the biggest Super Bowls. He stopped
an undefeated team, he beat the Patriots twice, and he
played really well in those games. Those two seasons are
going to get him into the Hall of Fame with
his name. He did have durability, you know, rarely missed
(12:51):
a game if he missed any and you know he's
got three hundred touchdowns and sixty thousand yards. But you know,
they it changes though the numbers of how important you
like Matt Ryan. You know, you got the MVP that
makes him probably a Hall of Famer, and he got
(13:11):
to the Super Bowl that but then they lost that
Super Bowl in dramatic fashion. So I don't you know,
once again, you're trying to sort this out that Philip Rivers.
It's a great story, great story, and I hope that
he comes back, and he's able to play where he's
proud of how he's playing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, pauling.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Phil Rivers right now is sixth all time and touchdown
passes four twenty one. He's ahead of Marino, Roethlisberger, Matt Stafford. Yeah,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Once again, it's the eye test, because sometimes when you say, hey,
is such and such a Hall of Famer and you
go yes, or how quickly you say yes? Because sometimes
when we have people on, I'll go, hey, such and
such hall of Famer? Then no, or you know, like
Matthew Stafford, who did we have on? Was it South
(14:06):
pal Antonio And he's a voter And I said Matthew Stafford,
He's like.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Oh yeah, absolutely, Like okay, because.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Then you know, I've had somebody who was a voter
before who said, you know, Stafford winning the MVP that
would solidify the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I kind of I don't know why,
but I feel that way about Philip Rivers too. I mean,
I know he didn't win what everybody expected him to win,
but he was clearly one of the best quarterbacks of
his era.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
But he was never the best quarterback of his era.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Not the best, but one of the best for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, he was probably in the top five to seven.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Is that fair?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Stat wise? He was always there with touchdowns. He only
led the league in touchdowns once. He was a eight
time Pro bowler. Was never All Pro? Yeah, first team
All Pro.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, so never the best quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But no, he went against some pretty pretty impressive resumes there.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, Paulin, this.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Comes down to not appearing in the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well, he didn't do well in the playoffs. Yes, I
think he had a losing record in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Yes, his record in the postseason is five and seven
for his career in seven playoff appearances.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
All right, we'll settle on a poll question.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The Notre Dame story is not going away because they're
athletic director Pete Bavakua at a press conference yesterday. Now,
there was one thing that came up during the press conference,
aside from my name, that I found really interesting, and
I'll talk about that coming up. We'll take a break here,
we'll get to your phone calls as well, And I
think anything else that needs to be mentioned here, anything anything, Yes.
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
If Philip Rivers starts for the Colts at any point,
well let's say he starts on Sunday, that'll be a
gap of oney eight and six days between games. So
you can go back to nineteen seventy. That's as far
back as they go with these numbers. The only NFL
quarterback with the longer gap between games played and these
(16:59):
were starts was John Reeves. He played for the Houston
Oilers and he played in nineteen eighty one. His next
NFL Start was a replacement player for the Buccaneers in
nineteen eighty seven, so he went six years without playing
(17:20):
without playing there. Now that was the strike year nineteen
eighty seven. Well, I remember covering those games. I was
in New York and it was like, oh my gosh,
you're going out there. It was a mess because you know,
(17:41):
players crossing the picket line, and I just remember, this
isn't going to end well. And then it finally ended.
But the strike year nineteen eighty seven, we'll get phone
calls coming up. Notre Dame press conference yesterday the athletic
director Pete Bavaqua, and he had some things to say.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now, this this was a scheduled press conference.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I think there were a lot of people, including myself,
that thought, Okay, he's going to have this press conference
after coming on our show and talking about how there
was permanent damage done by the ACC, that the ACC
apparently didn't go to bat or had some disparaging comments
about Notre Dame. But Notre Dame's not part of the ACC.
They are with the other sports. So I understand they're
(18:23):
going to promote Miami and also you're in the ACC
with all your other sports. But not football. If you
go to a bowl game, the ACC doesn't get money
from Notre Dame. So I understand some of this, and
you know the back and forth, but I would caution
people in my business, don't let your hatred for Notre
Dame cloud your judgment of actually looking at this story
(18:47):
with both sides. Or you know, your love for Notre Dame,
don't let that cloud your judgment with this. I think
everybody should understand if your school was ranked higher than
another school for five weeks and then all all of
a sudden, nothing changed until it changed with the selection
committee and you got jumped by that other school, you
(19:07):
would have a problem with them. And that's the only
point that I make with this, Miami. If you want
to say head to head, they should have been ranked
in front of Notre Dame and we could have prevented
all of this. But there's back and forth going on,
and here is the athletic director disappointed by the ACC.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
What we were.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Really surprised by and disappointed was how the ACC conference
really went on a social media campaign, in my opinion,
attacking our football program, and it raised a lot of eyebrows.
And you know, we made our feelings known that we
didn't particularly understand this, and it just kind of puzzled
(19:54):
us that a conference that's home to over six hundred
of our student athletes walking around this CAMPU today. I
guess chose to go down that road. I guess intellectually
I understand it, but I certainly don't agree with it.
And why would you attack an unbelievably important business partner
of yours in football and a member of your conference
in twenty four other sports?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Okay, once again, Miami's affiliation with the ACC is a
full member. Notre Dames is not the football program. You know,
you play a limited ACC schedule. You're not sharing revenue
with football when you get to the playoffs. So I
understand now, I don't know what was said in the meeting,
(20:37):
As I told you that, I had a source who
said this topic was three hours long. Notre Dame Miami
with the College Football Playoff Committee three hours And they've
been talking about this for quite some time. Everybody knew
what it was to where it turned out to be
with Miami and Notre Day and that sort of the
(21:00):
back and forth fallout with this, And my point is
and will always be Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
It feels like there's a hey, you.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Guys got you wanted this, you got it, you deserve this,
you you know, eat it. And I understand that there's
a hatred for Notre Dame. But also if you're looking
at this, just take out these two schools and put
your your team and then another team in there and
then say and then say to yourself, how would you
feel if that happened? Now the other stuff, I don't
(21:34):
think that they should have said, hey, we're not going
to play in a bowl game, or you know, maybe
they pull out of the ACC with the other programs
that they have, maybe they joined the Big Ten with
everything but football. I mean, I don't know what permanent
damage means. But now the Big twelve commissioner, Rent your Mark,
he came in. He's not happy with Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
I will say this, and I'm and I'm a little
spoken about it. I don't like how Notre Dame's reacted
to it. I think Pete's his behavior has been egregious.
It's been egregious going after Jim Phillips. When they saved
Notre Dame during COVID, we all knew and it was
very transparent Hunter was very transparent about it. The chair
(22:18):
that as Notre Dame in Miami got closer together head
to head would be a factor. Okay, BYU lost, they
came closer together head to head made a difference in
that decision.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
So I think he is totally out of bounds in
his approach. And he was in the room, I tell
him the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay, that's the big twelve Commissioner, Rent your mark. The
thing that I would say to the commissioner is what
if BYU was where Notre Dame was for five weeks
and Miami jumped BYU? Your response would be what, Commissioner, Hey,
(22:57):
that's what we signed up for, because that's what he
said with Notre Dame in Pete Bovakua once again, I
couldn't care less about Notre Dame if they're in or out.
I do care about the process of this. That's the
bigger picture. That's the issue that we should focus on.
You know, this is a committee that you know, it's clandestine,
(23:18):
we don't know what's going on, different agendas, and you're
trying to get a process that Okay, let me at
least understand the process, that's all. And then if it
doesn't go our way. Okay, at least I understand it.
I don't understand the process. And I told you about
teams that play in conference championships. The last twenty two,
(23:40):
twenty of the last twenty two that lost in a
conference championship game dropped in the rankings. Alabama this year
is one of those two. I didn't understand it. I
thought they got roughed up by Georgia and they should
have dropped. But once again, when a source tells me
last week, in his mind, this is before everything happened.
(24:03):
When he says to me, I think they're setting Notre
Dame up to be disappointed his words. So something was
at play, it feels like, and that's where I'm saying
to people in my business, look at both sides to this.
Don't let your judgment, you know, your opinion of Notre
(24:24):
Dame cloud your judgment. That would be the only thing
that I would say. And you know, Pete Bavoqua on
this feels like a petty tour. You know, I understand
where people are going to go, Oh, who do you
think you are?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Notre Dames? Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Okay, they have a top twelve provision they've somehow navigated
negotiated that they're going to be in the top twelve
next year.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Then they're in the playoffs. This leaked out over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Here is Bavaqua talking about that top twelve provision.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
People have asked me, well, how come Notre Dame gets
that benefit, and it's you know, we still we have
to prove it on the field more than anybody. I mean,
we still to put ourselves in that area, that zip
code of a top twelve team, but we want to
protect ourselves against like what happened this year.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, why did they give them that top twelve provision?
If you if you have to earn it on the field,
then you don't need a top twelve provision.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
That was surprising, Yes, Dodd, wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Every school want to protect themselves in a similar fashion
if they're going to be a bubble team and in
and around the twelve spot.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, the en to be guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The schools and conferences can't do that. I mean Notre
Dames just stand alone. There's nobody like Notre Dame.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Did they offer an explanation why they agreed to that,
I don't, I don't know. I don't need to explain
why they said. Okay, yeah, that's I see your point.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Somebody should ask the chairman of the committee ask, you know,
why did you agree to this?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Did you agree to this? Why did you agree to this?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I'm sure he'll join us this week.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I'm sure they'd love to. But yeah, that was wild.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But all of that was going on yesterday, the one
thing that stood out was Pete Bvakua, the Notre Dame
athletic director. He talked about Marcus Freeman and he volunteered
this up about Marcus Freeman, NFL coach.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
I make sure that he knows that he will be
where he deserves to be, and that is at the top,
top top tier of college football coaches when it comes
to compensation. Every year, I view his contract, although a
multi year contract, is a living, breathing document that we
will revise every year as need be to make sure
he's where he deserves to be. He knows he has
(26:46):
that commitment from me and more importantly, from the university.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, because there's some chatter, there was chatter last year
that maybe the Bears would be interested in Marcus Freeman,
and I think his buyout until they extended it. Contract
was four million dollars. Now I think it's forty million
dollars because now the Giants they're on the clock needing
a coach, and would they be interested in Marcus Freeman.
And I think that's what Pete Bavaqua was saying, almost
(27:12):
as if to say, Hey, we're proud that our coaches
wanted by NFL teams, but he's staying here. That's a
living breathing document. I don't know what that means. Has
it got a heartbeat? Most of these college coaches don't
they have living breathing documents.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Contract.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, see, just making it known that that is flexible
at any moment. Yeah, I got a new contract this
week and then another one next week. Yeah, no problem.
Yeah yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It did feel like an announcement to both Marcus Freeman
that if you get an offer, we'll match it, and
to the public if he gets an offer, we're ready
to match it, you know, like, don't even bother.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, So that kind of stood out that he's addressing
that the NFL could be interested in Marcus Freeman and
that they did change the buy out there considerably, I believe,
from four million to four what to you a million?
But we know, you know, these things are broken every year.
It feels like every week.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yes, ton is that also said to assure himself and
the Notre Dame faithful we're not going to miss out
on the playoff and lose our coaches. Just you know,
those two things are not going to both happen in
a short.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Period of time.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Maybe maybe, I mean, I don't know all the agendas
in play here. When Pete agreed to come on and talk,
knowing what the questions were going to be, and then
to then say that there's permanent damage that was done
by the acc he knows what he was doing. Now
I don't know what the fallout. I imagine that we're
(28:38):
going to revisit this in a month from now or
Notre Dame is certainly going to be like, okay, when
you say permanent damage, Okay, now what.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Happens, You're still going to stay in there.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And then what you're going to say, you know what,
We're going to go to the big ten.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Think that's what I most want to know when people
want to know what was the agenda of the playoff
committee with Notre Dame was the agenda to push them
towards joining a conference, because that's what a lot of
people think that this would be a nudge toward And
what is Notre Dame doing this week?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, but you can't say it's a push or a
nudge to join a conference and then give the top
twelve provision to Notre Dame that says, have you finished
in the top twelve.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Year in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, you can't have both agendas in play here. And
if it's true that they said to Notre Dame, if
you finished in the top twelve, you're in the playoffs.
While saying oh, looks like they're trying to nudge them
to join a conference, Notre Dame's not joining a conference.
They make their own schedule. I mean, you're going to
(29:40):
take the hit, you get all the money, Like, you're
not gonna do this, You're going to join the ACC.
Why would you join the ACC for football?
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah, Paul, is there another athletic team, pro or college
that makes their own schedule? I mean, think about it.
There's nothing in professional or college sports like Notre Dame.
They're an island. They don't answer to anybody. If a
player gets in trouble, they don't have to answer to
a conference commissioner, they don't have to share playoff shares.
They'll take the hit.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The Harlem Globe Trotters make their own schedule.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
I always play that one team though.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, a lot of logistics though, still, oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
If they try to, for lack of a better word,
join a conference and it did wasn't up to what
they had in mind, can you go back to being independent?
Or once the toothpast, you can't put the toothpaste back
in the tube.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
How does that work?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
We'll try this for a year or two and or
make some kind of deal with a conference, and then
all of a sudden they decide I liked it back
the way it was. Could they do that?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Why would you join a conference for a year or
whatever whatever the deal is?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Over what a four or five year period of time
that they thought this was, you know, now is the
time to join a conference and it ends up being
something that they wish they didn't do, and now they
want to be independent again. Is that something they'd be
able to do well?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't think that's something that is on the table
that they have the greatest luxury in college football. There's
no reason to join a conference, and if you're going
to join a conference, you're not all of a sudden
going to go you know, on second thought, we didn't
really think this out, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
The other thing about Notre Dame and which makes them
both likable and hateable, is that they are special and
because of this not special necessary positive and negative, but
that they control everything and the brand is they had
their own network. They're in this kind of no man's
land of college football in a good way. So they're
never going to give that up totally.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, No, there's so many schools that would love to
be in the same position with Notre Dame. They would,
but this is going to continue and we'll see what
the repercussions are with the ACC moving forward there. But
I would ask that Big twelve commissioner, if he would
come on, how would you have felt if BYU got
(31:50):
jumped by Miami and BYU your team in your conference
didn't play. I would ask all these conference commissioners because
nobody's going to say, oh, oh, you know what, that's
what we signed up for. So I think it's disingenuous
of the Big twelve commissioner to be critical of Notre
Dame and Pete Babaqua for that part of this. The
other stuff you can be critical of Notre Dame. Yeah
(32:13):
you can. Oh, you gotta take your ball and go. Oh,
you guys think you're bigger than Yes, they probably do.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
They probably are.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I hate to break it to you, Yeah they are.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
That's why they're able to do these things in college.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
And the committee is saying you are bigger because you
get a top twelve provision.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Fine. Bamb will be firing though, he'll be He'll be Oh,
he'll be all this is.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
T ball for him.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Oh, he's going to be crushing Notre Dame a little
later on when he joins this. We'll take a break.
We get to your phone calls coming up. Settle on
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Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, we got up there a little bit of a
Philip Rivers poll question. Okay, which would be more important
to you? Playing a few more games or sort of
getting the Hall of Fame voting going. It's a little
tough to word that, I guess, okay, so not getting
in the Hall of Fame, but pushing so pushing the
voting back five years, or let's get the voting going
(34:26):
right now? Yeah, you know, or you can play a
couple of games right now. Playing a few more games
has about fifty five percent of that vote, which I
agree with, I think I think Paul had brought it up.
But the one thing these guys all want is the
ability to play a couple more games and then Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Aye, you get in. That'd be cool.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
If you don't get in, whatever, I know what I
did well, this and that, but man, the ability to
play a couple more game seats.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Philip Rivers is never getting that chance again. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Think the further he gets pushed back, the clock resets,
the tougher it's going to be for him to get in.
Since nineteen ninety, there have been eleven mon modern era
quarterbacks elected to the Hall of Fame. Ten of those
were elected in the first year of eligibility, Dan Fouts,
Joe Montana, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Dan Marino, Steve Young,
(35:14):
Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning. Dan
Fouts was the one who was not elected in his
first year of eligibility.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Oh how stand of the day, start of the day,
start of the day, stant of to day. This is
the state of the day?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh's Amy? Kurt Warner. I didn't even mention him on there,
did I?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Now it's towards the bottom.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Uh. Warner does make sense though, Oh Kurt, Yeah, Kurt
Warner elected on the third bound. I'm surprised Dan Faults
was the first Battlet Hall of Famer. Very good quarterback
with Aeric Coriel. But you know, they went to a
conference title game. Maybe they maybe they went to two,
but they lost the game to the Bengals. They had that,
(36:14):
Oh no, they would have beaten the Dolphins. And then
they played Cincinnati the next week in the AFC title
game and lost that. And I could see Philip Rivers
similar to Dan Fouts in Fouts. You know, that offense
was wonderful to watch. Yeah, Pauline, I could see that too,
Fouts and Rivers being compared. Chargers not making the big game.
(36:35):
But there was a four year window where Fouts led
the NFL passing and seemed to reinvent it almost before
Dan Marino. And he was first team All Pro twice,
second team All Pro twice. That's a monster run. Yeah,
right before Dan Reno showed up. Yeah, had Charlie Joyner,
John Jefferson. They had some fun offensive players. Man, hey
(37:01):
they you know those uniforms you always looked faster you
always looked better.
Speaker 11 (37:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's like somebody who shows up in a tuxedo, they
always look better because they're in a tuxedo.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yes, we should do a list.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Of teams that you rooted for if you didn't have
a dog in the fight, or let's say you're an
NFC fan because the eighties Chargers were up there, UNLV
Rebels basketball. If you didn't have a team, they were
cool back in the day and you just kind of
glmbed on.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, Fab five as well.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I had a couple of phone calls in here, and
we're gonna play whose career would you want?
Speaker 11 (37:35):
Paul?
Speaker 3 (37:35):
You want to get? Are we getting stats? And then
we decide whose career.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
No, I'm gonna go names and bios.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Okay, all right, whose career would you want?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
The first one is Philip Rivers. I think he made
seven Pro Bowls, never made it to a Super Bowl,
was never an MVP. Okay. Or Matt Ryan, four time
Pro bowler, won an MVP but had probably the most
and maybe not probably the most painful loss in Super
Bowl history.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I'd rather have Matt Ryan's career. He won an MVP
and he went to the Super Bowl. I like how
we put all the blame on Matt Ryan and not
on the coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
You know, but you still this is a toughie.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'd rather have Matt Ryan's career MVP and he went
to a super Bowl and he's probably going to the
Hall of Fame. Wow, you guys have turned on me.
It's the holiday season.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
It's not anti Matt Ryan. It's anti resume.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Maybe I think it's anti me.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, I mean, even though that was it's not Matt
Ryan's fault that they lost that game by any stretch
of the imagination.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
But is there a butt.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well no, But I would still want to get there.
I want to play in the super Bowl, even if
it is this crushing loss that haunts him every single.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Day he wakes up out of a sweat.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He does. I believe he still does, because he gets
asked about it. Every round of golf he plays, three
people ask him about it. I know.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I know every super Bowl when he comes on, he
knows he's getting asked the question. I have to kind
of disguise it in a way that we somehow get
there and then he answers it again.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Last time wade him on, we asked him about the
worst loss and we met the NFL weekend. What are
we getting to, Dan?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeh like a trigger. He's right, He's right.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I didn't realize it, but I wasn't talking about the
super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
That's not what we're saying. Oh my god.
Speaker 10 (39:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
David in Ohio leads us off. Hi, David, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 11 (39:53):
Hey? What's up?
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Dan?
Speaker 11 (39:54):
I got four order quarterback Ryan time here for you
for the room. Okay, First one is uh Steelers and
World Series.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Winner Steelers World Yes time, Rogers Dodgers.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
Correct, I'd got that one. Next one, uh Fox analyst
and Sketchy Fox analyst, sketchy older.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Quarterback Brady Shady. Brady Shady got that one.
Speaker 11 (40:30):
Number two? Yeah, all right, number third one here, Uh
Bengals QB and Cigar Bengals QUB Cigar.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Older older quarterback Boomer.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (40:52):
He's currently on the roster, Dan.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh Older, Oh Flacco Tobacco.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
He did, Thank you, thank you, thank you, David. That's
pretty good, pretty good. One hour in the books.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Two more to go.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
You should give Dominique Fox where the heads up that
he's going to have to decide. Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan,
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