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the Steelers are going to go with their starters, or
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at least a lot of their starters, and that means
their quarterback too. Mike Tomlin still sounds undecided. And this
is a weird situation because I look at the timing
of the Denver Broncos with Bo Nix that Sean Payton
named him as the starting quarterback. You bring in Russell Wilson,
you say he's our starter, then you trade for Justin Fields.
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They look spotty. The offense hasn't looked good at all,
and now it almost feels like does Russ have to
win the job tonight or this weekend? And the same
with Justin Fields? Can he still win the job? I
saw a couple articles locally and Arthur Smith used to
be an offensive coordinator with the Tennessee Titans. Well, now
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they're saying, what about Ryan Tannehill coming into Pittsburgh to
be a quarterback. I'm like, no, then you have three quarterbacks,
then you don't have one quarterback. Just because he was
your offensive coordinator and he really did well with Tennessee,
I don't want to bring in Ryan Tannehill, especially if
the offensive line isn't very good. Therefore, I would want
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to have Justin Fields. But see, Pittsburgh doesn't do this rebuild.
Mike Tomlin always has a winning record. It's not like
you go, hey, we won't be that good this year.
Now you're in a tough division, but you're trying to
figure out who your quarterback is at this point, or
maybe they have I was told a couple of weeks
ago that they will go with Russell Wilson because it's
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easier to go with Russ and then bring Justin Fields
in from the bullpen, not the other way around. And
I was told by a source, Russ will have bruised feelings.
Now he'll play the game, He'll say all the right things.
But you want to have Russ start, and maybe if
he plays his way out of this, then Justin Fields
comes in. And I couldn't help but think going back
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to nineteen ninety six, believe it or not, Billkuer was
the coach and they had to decide between Mike Tomzak,
who was around Russ's age, and Cordell Stewart, who was
I think in his second year. So they had the athletic,
younger quarterback. You had the veteran quarterback. Now granted Mike
tom Zach is not Russell Wilson, but they went with
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Mike tom Zach and then they eased Cordel Stewart in
used a couple of different packages for his athleticism. That's
what I've been suggesting they do. Get justin fields in there,
give them a little bit of a lift. You know,
they both take too many sacks and that's not a
good offensive line. But it'll come down to can you
run the football, have a couple of timely passes, and
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then you're going to say play great defense. But you're
in a division where we know Baltimore is going to
be great. I think Cincinnati is going to be a
Super Bowl contender. And then you got the Cleveland Browns.
And I was looking back at this after the show yesterday.
So you had the Jets. They came into the season
last season with the seventh best odds to win the
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Super Bowl, and then Aaron Rodgers got hurt, so he
had a talented roster enough to be a Super Bowl contender.
They went seven to ten. Now the Browns, they lose
Nick Chubb almost for the entire season, and they lose
to Shaun Watson for eleven games. Well, Cleveland's debt helped
them go eleven and six, so both had playoff caliber rosters.
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But what separated the two was the Browns had more
depth and Kevin Stefanski did an incredible job and Robert
Sala did not. You don't win a Super Bowl without
having a deep roster. And even with the most dangerous teams,
it still comes down to we've lost our quarterback and
our running back. We're still going to be okay, and
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we saw that with Cleveland last year. All right, eight
seven to seven three DP show email address DP at
Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. We'll get
to phone calls coming up. As always, Operator Tyler is
sitting by Seatan O'Connor will come up with the poll
question here. So bow Nicks is the starter in Denver,
and I don't know if Jared Stidham put up enough
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of a fight there. It feels like Sean Payton he
he wants us to believe bo Nicks is ready to go,
whether he is or not. It feels like Sean Payton's like, hey,
I told you we're getting rid of Russ and I'm
going to find the guy in the draft, and he did.
Plus you're getting a guy who is like he's if
you can be a veteran rookie, I would say bo
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Nicks is a veteran rookie because of all the games
he played in college, and these are big time college
games he played. You play in the SEC and you
play in the PAC twelve and two different offenses, and
he is a very skilled player. But Sean Payton wants
to prove, Hey, I still know what I'm doing. I
don't want Russ. They got rid of Russ and they're
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paying him thirty seven and a half million dollars to
get rid of him. He better strike gold with bo Nicks.
All right, Seaton Poll question today. By the way, the
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Speaker 3 (06:26):
Did have one question because Fritzi's been very quiet this morning.
Bo Nicks the new starter, new fresh start. You still
have Sean Payton. It's a year two, Fritzi. Are you
in the jersey purchasing mode with bow Nicks? Are you
in a wait and see pattern?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I am wait and see.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
I already got burned because I bought two Russell Wilson
related shirts that are totally useless now sitting on a
hangar in my closet one And actually I had him
with John Elway and Peyton Manning like they're all hugging,
like they're going to be the big Bronco triumphant in
the history of Broncos quarterbacks. And so I'm going to
wait on that. But I was very eager and enthusiastic
with what I saw in the preseason game, even though
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it doesn't count, I'm excited about.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
He's starting a week one against the Well, okay, yeah,
I'm not ready to make that purchase yet.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Why don't you bring in one of those Russell Wilson
shirts tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I will do that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now. You didn't buy jerseys, you bought T shirts.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I bought T shirts.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
One of them was just with Russell Wilson and there
was like a let's ride Broncos country kind of thing.
But then the other one, which I'll probably wear tomorrow,
which is worse, is him Elway and Peyton Manning all together,
Like these are going to be the three greatest quarterbacks
with Super Bowl rings of all time.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
In Denver, I already saw a member of the media
kind of making the comparison that bo Nicks is the
next John Elway, and I'm like, oh boy, slow down,
slow down, slow down. I think he has, you know,
a lot of great intangibles. He's athletic. I just wonder
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the talent surrounding him. I mean, Drake may could be
great in New England. I just don't know if he'll
be able to showcase that because they don't have a
good roster there. Yeah, Paulie, it frustrates me as well.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Dan, you compare Bownicks to John Elway just because he's
on the Broncos. John Alway might be and I think
it's not hard to say the most physically impressive quarterback
of all time and everything he could do when he
was twenty four years old.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So let's not go that far. Yeah, I just want
to I want to slow down just a little bit here.
But I do find it interesting that this is, you know,
everybody loves their quarterback and they think that they're going
to project to being the next or he reminds me
of And I always caution because there's a couple of
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special quarterbacks. We chew through so many quarterback How many
quarterbacks played last year? How many started a game over
sixty So they're out there and there's only a handful
that you go, wow, they are going to be an
all time great. They're a difference maker, you know. Speaking
of the Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski, he was on
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ninety two point three the Fan in Cleveland and had
this to say about Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You know, it's funny, like it's almost you know, Steph
Curry changed basketball.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I think Mahomes is changing football.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
You're watching quarterbacks come out and play that style that
they comport themselves like him. So I would not be
surprised if you start saying that around. Certainly our league.
You're gonna see kids in high school trying it. Now,
they better complete it. They're going to hear from their
head coach.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, I don't need behind the back passes. But Patrick
Mahomes has, you know, earned a little bit of that
freedom there with Andy Reid, throw it to Travis Kelcey.
Sixty six quarterbacks started a game last year. Sixty six.
It's hard to find sixty six you would think who
could play, and granted not all of them can play.
(09:44):
But I do agree with Kevin Stefanski. Will look back
probably on Patrick Mahomes's career the way we've looked back
on Steph Curry's career, because Steph changed the game. Patrick
Mahomes has changed the position. Whose career would you rather have? Oh,
right now, right now, I'll give you Steph Curry. I'll
(10:06):
give you Patrick Mahomes. Now, how about this we can
I'll give you Patrick mahomes career not up to date,
but you know, all the way to the end of
his career, so you don't know what that is. We
already know Steph. You know probably ninety percent of his
career is complete. I'm gonna give you Patrick Mahomes or
Steph Curry, Seeton, I'm gonna start with you. Who you taking?
Speaker 7 (10:30):
Yeah, I know, I think I'm gonna go with Patrick
Mahomes because Steph Curry is never going to be the greatest.
Patrick Mahomes has a very real chance to be that.
He's making a fortune he you know, he's an absolute stud.
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He's a hero. He might he's the only person that
you're really talking about being like he might supple. Tom
Brady is the greatest quarterback ever. You've never once heard,
you know, Steph Curry my past, Michael Jordan, that's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's not even you can't even say that. What if
I said Steph Curry's career, Patrick Mahomes career right now,
nothing else is added. Yes, John, I'm gonna take.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Steph Curry, greatest three point shooter ever, what he just
did at the Olympics with hitting three after three after
three to clinch the gold medal.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I'm gonna be Steph.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
All right, what about you, Marvin, Oh, this is tough.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
I'm gonna go with Steph for right right now. You said, yeah,
right now, I'm gonna go with Steph.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Their careers end today. You're taking Steph Curry. Correct.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Okay, Paulie, this is really tougher than I thought when
you first said it. And I love football quite a
bit more than I like basketball. I'm gonna go with
Steph Curry because he changed the entire sport worldwide. People
play the sport differently since he arrived and it's a
little bit like that Mahomes, but not that drastic.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Okay, Yeah, I would take Mahomes if we're looking at
his career and where it ends. But if you said
everything ends today, I'd take Steph Curry because I don't
know if Mahomes is given credit, he will be given credit.
I don't think he's given credit universally of changing the game.
I mean there have been a lot of quarterbacks who improvise.
(12:22):
I mean Aaron Rodgers improvised for a lot of his
career and throwing different angles, side angle, you know, passes.
Mahomes has done it on a big stage more often
than Aaron Rodgers, says. But I would still take Steph
Curry because you're right, worldwide, he changed the game, and
not many players, not many athletes in any sport, many sports,
(12:45):
you can say they change the game. All right. Other
poll questions today seton anything strike your fancy. Yeah, yeah,
we got a few of them. It's actually Thursday.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
We very often get some suggestions from the to double
D on Thursday. Maybe we could save those for dot
dot after.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
The break, after the break, after the break. Colt's Bengals
coming up tonight, bears and the chiefs as well. All right, well,
settle on a poll question. Phone calls are always welcome,
eh seven to seven to three, DP show email address,
Dpadanpatrick dot com twitter handle DP show not a lot
of excitement yesterday after the show, I didn't bring out
(13:26):
the axe. By the way, somebody asked me, at what
point does a hatchet become an axe? Because I have
a hatchet and I was told that's not an axe.
But I don't know. At what point does my hatchet
become an ax? How big does the hatchet have to
be before it's no longer a hat like? Yes, like
a hatchet bar mitzvah, when it becomes an act? Yeah,
(13:49):
a brisk Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Maybe it depends on the number of hands you have
to use.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
To use the Like hatchet you use it with.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
One hand or one arm, and maybe an axe you
use both. Oh, I need to okay, like you have
to swing an axe a hatchet you can kind of.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Maybe. I don't know, all right, PAULI, you'll do a
deep dive on that. We'll find out what I need
to get. You know, if I walk into the hardware
store and I want to buy an axe, how big
is the axe needs to graduate from hatchet dumb.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yes, Paul, I found this website The Art of Manliness,
and they say eighteen inches and less is a hatchet.
Eighteen and over is an axe back to you? Okay, okay, good?
So that might mean you have to be able to
put two hands on it.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
How about we take a break and settle on nice.
We'll settle on a pole question. We'll talk some baseball
coming up a little bit later on John Heater Napoleon
dynam Once had been twenty years since that movie came out.
He will join us. And it's one of those where
you can't unsee it or unhear it when you know
(15:09):
you talk to John, it's that's Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
All right.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
We'll take a break. Just getting started on this Thursday,
Dan Patrick show back after this.
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
We'll settle on a first hour poll question. I wondered
about this before Russe got to Pittsburgh. Russell Wilson, can
you play your way out of Hall of Fame contention
because of what happened in Denver? Maybe at the end
of what happened in Seattle, he was certainly on a
meteoric rise to be a Hall of Famer, And I
don't know if he still is. I don't know if
(16:22):
it's one of those Oh yeah, of course he is.
You feel like he is, or you felt like he was,
and then he's tailed off considerably and then you look
at his age. Could you imagine if the Steelers go
with Justin Fields, and I think at some point this
season they do. I don't know if that'll be because
of Russell's play. But the offense right now is really struggled.
(16:43):
They faced Buffalo, they faced the Texans. Now these are
all playoff teams and you're not scoring touchdowns here. You
bringing Arthur Smith. Bill Belichick acknowledge this on Pat McAfee
the other day, saying, hey, he's really really good as
an offensive coordinator. Well, he's probably going to have to
be really, really really good as an offensive coordinator. But
Mike Tominy's made this vague. I don't know if he's
(17:06):
made it vague for a reason, because when they first
got Russell Wilson, hey he's our starter. Well, then you
get Justin Fields. Okay, Now there's some competition there. And
I think the mindset was Russ is there for at
least one year, Denver's paying his salary. Justin Fields has
a lot of potential. Put him in a system where
(17:27):
there's consistency, certainly at the head coaching position. Now you
have yet another offensive coordinator for Justin Fields to learn under.
It's not that easy when they change offenses, the offensive
coordinators or head coaches. And I still think Justin Fields
in the future is the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
The question is is the future now back to bow Nicks.
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He's twenty four and a half, the oldest quarterback since
this quarterback in twenty twelve to start this season, So
right now bow Knicks twenty four and a half, he
would be the fifth oldest rookie quarterback to start a
season opener since nineteen fifty, the oldest since this quarterback
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in twenty twelve. Would anybody like to offer up Paully
almost putting the.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Up whenever I hear age and quarterbacks Brandon Whedon.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes, that's a blue book. Wow, it's my go to answer,
Brandon Brandon Whedon was almost twenty nine. I mean, at
least Chris Wanke went to play baseball after Florida State.
Brandon Whedonky of the Browns had some stupid draft Picksman
Brandon Whedon twenty almost twenty nine starting and Bownix is
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the first rookie to start at quarterback in the regular
season opener since John Elway in.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Hell yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The day stat of the day.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Comes that what.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You can't say, Hell yeah if you're not buying a bon.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Nick, Yes, I just I don't want to get burned again.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
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to Patrick Mahomes, you know Kevin Stefanski saying he's like
Steph Curry, changing the game. Not everybody's all in on
Patrick Mahomes. We actually found somebody who thinks they're better
than Patrick Mahomes, and it's a player who never played
(19:37):
college football. He's a flag football legend, Darryl Ducett, and
he had this to say.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
At the end of the day, I feel like I'm
doneter than Patrick Mahomes because of my IQ of the game.
I know he's right now the best in the league.
I know he's more accurate, I know he has all
these intangibles, but when it comes to flight football, I
feel like I know more than him.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Okay, he is the quarterback for Team USA and he's
been the starter I think for four years. He's around
thirty five years of age, didn't play college football. But
when you talk about flag football IQ, comparing that to
NFL IQ, I mean, I'm gonna lean a little bit
harder towards the NFL where you need to have a
(20:22):
higher IQ than flag football. How long do you think
it would take Patrick Mahomes to get his IQ up
to flag funtball's status like two minutes, five minutes, ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Never, Yes, Paul, I think he's being a little defensive,
mister Dussett. You know, he hears that the NFL wants
to get their players involved. He's like, you know, almost
like I'm throwing it out there that I'm the best.
I'm gonna put it out there. A lot of people
know my name.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well, okay, but in four years he's going to be
thirty nine in flag football. That's like twenty six. Oh
that was it? Hey, okay, okay, but I thought that
that was interesting that, you know, these guys playing flag football,
they don't want the NFL, you know, players coming in.
This is their chance. They're going to be the big stage.
(21:14):
Now all of a sudden, you're gonna come in and
bigfoot me. I'm as good as Mahomes. I'm better. It's
it's my IQ. Yes, Marvin DP relaxed. Lebron was thirty
nine also in the last Olympics. Okay, so ducet Lebron,
same person, yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
So. Darryl Duscett's been the quarterback for USA for like
five years now. He led them to a gold medal
at the twenty twenty two World Games and a twenty
twenty three IFAF America's Continental Flag Football Championship.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I know you watched it, so I'm not for the others. Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
He went out to say, I think it's disrespectful that
they NFL players automatically assume that they'll be able to
join us because we're the ones who grew the sport
and made it Olympic sport.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
All right, smack, Well I get that. No, I get
that that your your territorial, But you can't say your
IQ is higher than Patrick Mahomes. You can say my
IQ is really high as a flag football quarterback, But
I don't think like that's where you lose me if
you said, hey, I would love to go toe to
(22:14):
toe with Patrick Mahomes. I'm really good in my sport.
He's the greatest quarterback of all time. Okay, now we've
at least had some reality to seep in here. Yeah. See,
does Daryl have a point?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Is it?
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I have a hard time believing that, Yes, it's possible.
Flag football has a more specific skill set, perhaps in
terms of I don't know the rules are the way
that the game operates a little bit. However, I do
believe if given a couple of reps, Patrick Mahomes could
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figure it out.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
You think he actually needs a couple of reps.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
I'm trying to be fair to the flag football community.
I think Patrick could figure it out. God admit, I
would like to hear from the flag football community and
see if they agree with Darryl Ducett that his football
IQ is higher than Patrick Mahomes. I give him credit.
(23:19):
I mean, you know, we now know who he is.
Whether it's only for fifteen minutes, because in four years
then flag football is going to be at the LA games.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yes, Paul, I'm watching clips of this guy, and he's fantastic,
and a lot of it is avoiding the rush. Of course,
it's one Mississippi too, Mississippi. They really have to wait
before they rush in. He's short, guy's pretty fantastic. But
I think he almost put it. He didn't use the
word flag football knowledge. He's the word football knowledge.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's Paul on Mahome's flag. Yeah. Once again, they don't
have to count one Mississippi, two Mississippi. And when they
hit you it really hurts. As a opposed to Hey,
I pulled your flag football IQ. Okay, did did Mahomes reach?
(24:10):
I think Mahomes responded with maybe a not safe for
work response to this.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
It's a gift or jiff?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Uh yeah, something like that. But did he did he
respond to Darryl Ducett this football?
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Okay, yep, it's a gift and it's a gift of
saying what did I do? That's the gift?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Okay or jiff, whatever you want to call it. Okay, okay,
all right? Uh, you were talking about something before the
commercial break there Seaton that I forgot what you were
talking about that you would tell us after the break.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I believe I was talking about how it's Thursday, and
very often on Thursday we get pulse suggestions from one
Todd Fritz. It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh okay, yeah, I don't know if do we have
do we have the pole question that you were going
to go with? I have you had one that?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I do have one I have Would you rather dot
dot dot throw a no hitter or star in a
cult classic? So?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Would you rather be Napoleon Dynamite? Perhaps?
Speaker 7 (25:20):
I mean or you might say Napoleon Dynamite, you might
say al lighter.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Oh, Okay, so we have Al Lighter on from a
MLB network, He's thrown a no hitter? Would you rather
have John Heater's career or Al Lighter's career?
Speaker 7 (25:37):
So I don't want to say that because I feel
I know you do.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I know you do.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
But if if we keep it to a no hitter
or a cult classic, it makes it maybe a little
more fair.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Because Al Lighter won three World Series, got a chest
to pick for the Mets and the Yankees in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Ask the question, then, would you rather have John Heaters?
Would you rather have played Napoleon Dynamite? John Heater also
was in a movie with me or vice versa benchwarmers,
this Sandler movie. Would you rather have Al Lighter's career
or John Heater Napoleon Dynamite? Yes, Paul, and.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I throw out an option to make this maybe a
little tighter. John Heater, very well known for Napoleon Dynamite, didn't.
He's worked a lot since he hasn't had another hit,
almost like a one hit wonder band. There was a
pitcher a long time ago for the twenty years ago
for the uh Sanlois Cardinals, Bud Smith. He was seven
to eight in his career, but he had a no hitter.
(26:36):
He played two years of baseball, he had a no
hitter and basically nothing else.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Okay, so maybe that could be a Bud Smith or
Napoleon Dynamite, that old poll. I'm going Napoleon Dynamite. I mean,
as long as.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
You get paid for that role, because okay, see now
you're adding in things that it's like al lighter, he'd
be okay if he throw a perfect game too. Yeah,
you can't. You can't start adding in things that aren't there, Okay, okay, okay, okay.
It's just I don't know what he got for Napoleon Dynamite.
I don't know what Bud Smith made in his career,
(27:13):
but I'm gonna go Napoleon Dynamite. Oh Man, John Heater
will join us a little bit later on today.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yes, if you think about it, no one's going back
and rewatching Bud Smith's no hitter. Like at home on
a Friday night with a couple of beers, Napoleon Dynamite
that comes on, I'm done.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's one of those movies that, no matter where it is,
to me, the guy who steals the movie is Kip. Yeah,
Kip is awesome, awesome, his whole transformation later on it
gets me. There's always there's a couple of scenes in
there that you know, Pedro never broke character. It was
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just like very very even keel Kip though was Kip
had some moments there.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, for my fourteen year old son, Napoleon Dynamite is
the pinnacle of culture, fashion and entertainment. It gets no
better than that movie. And as a forty something year
old man, I can't say that he's wrong. I can't
say that it's it's fantastic. It's a great movie.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But they almost made the non cool kids cool. By
the end of the movie, the non cool kids were cool.
It certainly felt like that. And then the dance scene
that was that was awesome. Does he go to a
wedding and people when he hears that song If somebody
knows that Napoleon Dynamite John Heater is there, it's like
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Kevin Bacon with Footloose that you're gonna put on that
song and then everybody's gonna go, come on, you gotta
get out there, and then like Kevin Bacon can do it.
I don't think it's as his dance routine is the
same Napoleon Dynamite because he's you need to clear the
dance floor for him. I think Kevin Bacon clears the
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dance floor when he's dancing. Yes time.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I don't know if Bacon was being facetious with you
when we had him one, but he didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
He goes over to the DJ and you know.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Basically ribes him into playing that suf's not an issue.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, and I thought, you know, uh, being proactive there,
preemptive strike genius.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, Paul, Napoleon Dynamite came out, yet, like you said,
twenty years ago, it was made for under five hundred
thousand dollars. It's almost like I started as a student
film that became a real film. It made forty six
million worldwide. I thought it was more niche than that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Dang. Yeah, But I think they did a short. I
think they did like a smaller version of it, and
then I think they were at BYU him and the director,
and then they decided that they were going to make
it into a movie. And uh, yeah, going from a
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short film to the big screen and imagine changing your
life like that. But you know, the look that he
had and the voice that he had to whatever I
feel like. Gosh, Steve Nash has that same kind of
sound as well. All right, so we'll settle on a poll.
Did we settle on a pole question? Oh? Todd has
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a few Thursday poll questions.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
One which is also a Napoleon da Matt related Are
you more likely to watch a movie because it's called
a cult classic?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yes? I got to see what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
No, uhh, yeah I would. I would be more apt
if somebody said, oh, you got to watch this cult
classic if I hadn't seen it. Yeah, yeah, probably would
give me a little bit more motivation. What else?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
A Knicks related one?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Starting at rookie quarterback Week one is desperate and never
a good idea?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Acceptable if you're absolutely positive he's ready to do so?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Well, what are their other options? When they have five wins?
Last year, they're over under. This year is five and
a half wins.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
He seems to be much better than what there Well.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I think age wise, you know, he's twenty four and
a half. Then the fact that he's played in a
couple of different big time programs. Yeah, basically jettison from
Auburn to Oregon and he played great. Uh sure, I
have no problem with that same thing with Jayden Daniels.
Put him out there. He's got a lot of experience. Yes,
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Marvin twenty four and a half?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
What is he eight?
Speaker 8 (31:34):
He's twenty four and a half rounding up? Come on,
what do you stop? That's almost like a baby? How
old is the baby? Forty eight months?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I hate that? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
When do we stop doing that? The months of the half?
When the baby gets two? The months you got to
cut it at eighteen months? Yeah, once you gets eighteen months,
the kid's either one or he's two. Okay, what drives
you crazier that? Or percentile? Your child is in the
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eighty seventh percentile? Yeah? I never know how to react.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Every family I know in like the suburbs, they say
my daughter's in the ninetieth percentile, like she's going to
be Britney Griner in four years.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, yeah, I never. I don't know how to react
when they say, oh, size wise eighty eight and a half, yes, Ton, and.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Do you congratulate them for that you have? Really, what
did you have to do it? The genetic thought you.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Didn't do anything? Yeah, like okay, wow, that's quite an accomplishment.
But I thought maybe when you get to two that's
when you don't do twenty five months, but you do
hear oh, she's twenty one months. But you know, I
find both of them are and I tell my kids, hey,
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good luck. I hope you have a lot of kids.
I don't need to hear percentile because there's no accomplishment there. Yes, Tom,
I think.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Close will say twenty four to forty eight months, but
you'll never see like fifty three months to fifty seven months.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
So that's Paully's probably right. The cutoff should be two years.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I would think, all right, I'm gonna give you a
bloop on that. No, Paulie said eighteen months. I said
two years. I think that that should be. We don't
do it. There's no twenty five months. That's it. All right,
we'll take a break. We got our poll question, I think,
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speaking of baseball, you had Aaron Judge hitting a couple
of home runs last night. Only two other Yankee duos.
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Say you have Juan Soto and you have Aaron Judge.
Only two other Yankee duos have hit at least thirty
six home runs through the team's first one hundred and
twenty seven games of a season. Those duos are Babe
Ruth and Lou Garrig, Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Whoo Cowl Stall of the day, Stalla, a day, Stalla,
a day, Scallata day.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
This is the Stele of the Day. Judge homered twice.
Soto also homered as they roughed up the Guardians. They
have homered in the same game eleven times this season,
most of any baseball teammates. We've gotten to the point
where maybe we take Aaron Judge for granted, these are
great numbers. Forty seven homers, batting three thirty four. Now,
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he had a dip last year that you know, season
before that was when hit you know, sixty two home runs.
But he had two years where he was a little
banged up, like he was a tour de force when
he was twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven to twenty
eight banged up. And then here he is again and
he's gonna win another MV PIG. Now, I want to
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have ask Al Lighter, this Ol Lighter, former pitcher MLB Network,
if you had Judge and show Hey Otani, both in
the American League, who would be his MVP this season?
Because Otani probably going forty to forty and maybe flirt
with fifty to fifty, and I would probably lean that
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way just off the numbers and the fact that it
doesn't happen very often, and Judges has never been under
the cloud suspicion with performance enhancing drugs. I mean, he's
just a big guy. And I kept thinking that later
in his career he's going to have problems with a
you know, that bigger swing. But as for right now,
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I mean I watch and when he was on that
roll two years ago, I kept thinking, these pitches that
they're throwing to him, I was shocked that he would
you know, they would put it in a position where
you go, oh my god, how do you not put
it either really inside or really outside, either really high
or really low. Not these breaking balls that went over
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the center of the plate. Because he did not miss.
He had almost a very bomb type reaction with some
of these pitches. But they actually pitched to him, Pitchers
that didn't want to pitch to Barry Bonds. He would
get one pitch, maybe per at bat, sometimes maybe only
two or three pitches for an entire game, and he
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didn't miss.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yes, Pauling Judge's season this year, like you said, it
might be better than two years ago. He's on pace
for fifty eight homers, one hundred and forty rbi, and
he's hitting three thirty four that's twenty three points higher
than two years ago. The slugging's up, the OBP is up,
he's leading the league in walks, intentional walks, everything. But
like you said, he's entering that Barry Bonds category of
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both average and power but clean, no questions.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, but same with Otani. You know, he's not under
a cloud of suspicion, which is great for the game.
It's just I don't know how much damage was done
to the game where we kind of thought everybody cheated
or if you're not cheating, you're not trying. But you know,
maybe we're getting back to what you're seeing is what
you're you know, you're believing what you're seeing.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
Yes, Marvin, if Aaron Judge doesn't win a World Series,
does this hurt his chances to make the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Kind of like Don Mattingly, No, because these these are
pretty historical numbers that he's putting up. I don't know,
if see maddingly, if he'd played just a couple more years,
then he probably would have been in the Hall of Fame.
I don't know if not playing in the World Series is,
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you know, a big deterrent for the voters. I know
it is when we talk about quarterbacks playing in Super Bowls.
I don't know pitchers pitching in the postseason. That was
always sort of a all Kurt Schilling, to me, is
a Hall of Famer because of what he did in
the postseason. He was a good regular season pitcher, yes, Martin.
Speaker 8 (38:48):
But does it hurt that he was on the Yankees
and he's the one great player that didn't win a
World Series as a member of the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I think it hurts the Yankees, like he'd look at
what he did and then you didn't have anybody surrounding him.
The roster has been poorly organized. You know, I don't
think Brian Cashman put together a good lineup this year.
Soto's been great, and Judge Who's been great. But he's
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going to be a Hall of Famer. But you know,
you look at these guys who put up these kind
of numbers, and they're for the most part, hall of famers,
unless you know they like Bonds is not going to
be a Hall of Famer. But you got these guys
who put at these historical numbers. Yes, Marvin Judge's a
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Now, no, he's going to be okay, So if he
stays another three four years like this.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, I think he's going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah,
what do we have? Nineteen players have had fifty or
more homers and batted three hundred for a season. Yeah,
that great combo of average and power. Yeah. So you
know Judges in there, Alex Rodriguez, Jim tom did it,
Bonds did it, Luis Gonzalez, Sammy Sosa three times, Maguire
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did it. You know. So unless you were suspended, A
lot of these guys are in the Hall of Fame.
Albert Bell was always one of those. Gosh he was.
He was one of those guys who came to the
plate and you were like, damn, he scares me. He
had a run there.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I don't know if it was Albert Bell or Joey Bell.
I just know that he was.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
He was.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
George Foster's on this list. George Foster was one of
those guys. He had a moment nineteen seventy seven, Willie Mays,
Mickey Mantle, Johnny miz Hank Greenberg, Hacking, Yeah, Babe, Ruth. Yeah,
these are all guys. Hall of famers there and judges.
Judges in there this season if he gets to fifty
home runs, bats three hundred, great list. All right, coming up,
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Al Lighter will join us. We'll talk a little baseball
with him, and a little later on we'll talk to
John Heater, the actor who played Napoleon Dynamite. Your phone
calls are welcome. Seeingo, you update the poll result from
the first hour.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Yeh would you rather throw a no hitter or star
in a cult classic? Right now it is fifty two
percent throw a no hitter? Another close one.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, I guess we would have to list the cult
classics aside from Napoleon Dynamite. Maybe that would that would
give people a different thought for their answer there. All right,
take a break. Hour two coming up.