May 22, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan thinks the NBA needs a better plan for announcing the MVP. He reacts to the Knicks choking away Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals to the Indiana Pacers and Tyrese Haliburton trolling Knicks fans with Reggie Miller’s choke sign after hitting the game-tying shot. And NFL insider Mike Florio joins the show to discuss the failed effort to ban the “tush push,” the adoption of flag football by NFL players, and the passing of Colts owner Jim Irsay.
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starting to feel bad that we lost the Sports Emmy,
I could always be a Knicks fan today because they
got to feel a whole lot worse than we did.
(02:02):
They were winning, We weren't even winning winning, and all
of a sudden, in historical fashion, you blow a lead.
This will be the question. We always do this all
the shows. Well, did one team win it or one
team lose it? The Knicks blew it. The Knicks blew it.
When you're up fourteen inside three minutes in your building,
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you blew it now. Since nineteen ninety seven, in the postseason,
there have been total four comebacks from seven or more
points in the final fifty seconds of the fourth quarter overtime.
The Pacers have three of the four, all happening this season.
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Play of the Day and of the Day coming up
as well. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. He'll wrap
up what we saw at the owners meetings as the
tush push is still here at least for another year.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Tom Pellasero, also.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
At the owner's meetings, will join us later on, and
Hall of Famer mister Fab five Chris Weber a little
bit later on as well, so recapping the Pacers shocking
the Knicks in Game one and Shay Gilgis Alexander wins
the NBA MVP although we already knew he wanted because
(03:33):
Shams broke the story and then Shaq was opening up
an envelope last night, and we're supposed to suspend belief
or disbelieve, like, okay, maybe something else happened here that
we don't know. Maybe Shams didn't get it right, and
all of a sudden, Shack goes shake Gilgus Alexander MVP.
(03:53):
They got to figure out how to do this because
you can't hold this kind of information this amount of time,
because you remember when Dirk Novinsky had to accept the
MVP after I think they were blown out by the
Golden State Warriors in round one. I mean they I
was told that somebody was suggesting to give Shay Gilgess
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Alexander the MVP while he's facing Joker in Denver. I go, no, no, no, no,
that's not the way you should be doing this. It
should be something that it's a great moment. And even
if we all thought that Shay Gilgess was going to win,
let's do it. Have an announcement so we can treat
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it in real time that yay, all right, you won, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But when I was a kid, when Michael Jordan and
Charles Barkley were receiving the MVP awards, they did it
before a game. So you wouldn't want shakee Gildess alisand
to do it before a game.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Not in Denver, not not on you know, Joker's home court.
You want to do it in. Okay, see, absolutely, go ahead.
I have no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And Joker knows he's not winning the MVP, but you know,
do it right after the regular season.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We don't. Let's not try to hold off. Remember they tried.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
To do the awards ceremony and then then COVID came
in and then they decided not to do that anymore.
It just it's a great moment for SGA. You want
to treat it as such, giving him, you know, the
award prior to a game. Home crowd gets to honor him. Great,
I'm fine with that. Yes, done.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
It would have been very awkward if there was another
name besides SGA in that envelope because SJA was standing
by with all his teammates to do an interview on
inside the NBA.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
That might have been slightly awkward if he read a
different name.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, but he was going to win. He dominated with
first place votes and Joker second place votes. But Shay
Gilgess Alexander Well deserving of MVP.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
All right. Back to the Knicks collapse.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
This is Kevin Harland with the call with the Tyres
Halliburton shot that we thought was the game winner that
just tied the game.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Indiana with it. Calliver, don't take it. He'll back pedal
a free from the room. It was only a two
and he did the choke sign. Reggie Miller's in the building.
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And keep in mind when Reggie hit his shots, and
that was nineteen ninety four, did the choke sign to
Spike Lee Pacers lost that series. It would have been
really embarrassing if you do a choke sign and you
tie the game, you glind overtime and then you don't win.
But it did feel like the momentum was there. It
felt like the PACER's depth had worn the knicks down.
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You know, Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns were great. Brunson
certainly with the scoring, but you know, you're throwing five
different defenders at Jalen Brunson and it just felt like
when you needed him, he couldn't come up big put
you in that position to win game. And Karl Anthony Towns,
but Tyrese Haliburton had thirty one, aaron Ne Smith had thirty.
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This will be the aaron Ne Smith game. Ten years
from now, fifteen years from now, we'll talk about Tyrese
Haliburton shot and the choke sign. But You're gonna remember
aaron Ne Smith because this is really a defensive minded guy.
I mean he's counted on to play defense, and when
you're hitting five three pointers, I mean that's not expected
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from him. He hit six three pointers in the fourth quarter,
tying the NBA record for most three pointers in a quarter.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Last person to do with Steph Curry. You expect that
to happen. But you know the Knicks, they were up
by seventeen. They choked, they did. Here's Tyrese Haliburton after
the game. I've seen that winning.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Time doc probably like fifty times growing up, so I
know that they didn't win the series, so I would
not like to repeat that. But you know, I think
that's just a historic moment, and that was obviously more
him versus Spike, kind of the one on one, and
that just felt like there was to everybody, but to
him too. I want him to see more than anything.
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But I think this is really cool to continue to,
you know, make my own history in this group, to
make our own history while also showing you know, respect
and love to the ones that came before us. So
definitely a special moment, and yes, I'm all't.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Forgot Tyrese Aliburton's having a hell of a month Playoff
Boost voted the most overrated player by fellow players. Nobody's
saying that anymore. And there are certain athletes regular season good,
postseason better. Jimmy Butler, Reggie Miller, just to name a
few good regular season all of a sudden, you know,
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they're attracted to the spotlight. They don't shy away from
the spotlight. Tyre's Halliburton. It's a wonderful performance, and you
do it in the Garden. I mean, that's where legends
are made. When you think about Reggie's career. If Reggie
doesn't have his moments against the Knicks, you could probably
make a case maybe in the Hall of very good,
one of the greatest shooters of all time. But to
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have that, I mean, those are moments that they stay with.
They're indelible marks for your career when you have a
moment at the Garden, and Tyre's Halliburton certainly had one
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Speaker 3 (09:47):
What are you thinking? We got a couple of them
for you.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
We got one here from Marvin just based off recent events,
Greatest Warrior ever, Steph Curry, Wilt Chamberlain, Rick Berry or
Dylan Grady based on him chopping as work today.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
All right, yeah Dylan hashtag warrior. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They're blood all over the place here, and I'm like, oh,
it looked like a crime scene like this doesn't bode well.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
For Meet Thursday by the way.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Yeah, it's certainly less appetizing here.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, I know, gotta admit, yeah, I'm going to be
looking at my lobster roll a little closer.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, what other AnyWho, the choke symbol last night
was awesome or awesome, but a mistake.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think if you ask him if he would like
to have that back, he probably would say yes, you
think so, yeah, because it wasn't the game winner, and
you don't want history repeating itself because the Pacers when
Reggie did it, didn't win that series. It's a great moment,
and you're going to be on the you know, cover
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the newspapers in New York front page, probably side by
side with Reggie.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
With the choke sign.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But eh, I don't know, Marvin, what do you think
is that something that Tyrese Halliburton's gonna go you know
on on second thn.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
No, I loved it because, you know what, the Knicks
earned that choke sign. If there was any time to
use it, it was right there, because that's one of
the biggest choke jobs I've ever seen it.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
If you don't if you don't win an overtime, then
it looks silly because yes, it was a choke job,
but then you don't want to choke after giving the
choke sign, and then the Knicks come back and win.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
That video of him doing the choke sign could have
easily paired with him walking into the tunnel with his
head down after losing it overtime.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Very easily that could have happened. Yes, yes, Ton, you're
Robert Dyson.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
To the chokes on. Reggie's calling the game.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's at the Garden Pacers the can in the moment
he thought he won the game until they checked it
out and said called it a two for overtime.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
He thought that was a game winning shot.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
That was a winning three and it wasn't a good shot, terrible,
it was awful.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
What do you do? And then all of a sudden, that's.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
One of those no, no, yes, yes, that's crazy, dude,
that was a crazy shot.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh my god, that was a crazy shot.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I don't know if that was the design on the play.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No, I don't know if Rick Carlisle said, hey, you know,
that's what we wanted or it was I don't know.
Just try to get a shot off here. And you
needed it too. That that's the thing that I didn't
understand if you were going you didn't need it too.
But you know, two cents the end overtime at three
wins it. But then get to the three point line.
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He saw glory. He saw glory right there. He was like,
glory is right behind that line, right there. I try
to get there. But I do love that because you're
taught on the road go for the win. You don't
want to tie and go into overtime, but you also
want to make sure you get a good shot to
win it, as opposed to I'm not going to take
the two might be a better shot, I'm going to
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go for the you know, the jugular here the throw,
which is exactly what he was trying to do.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, Marvin, but that scenario just showed me that dude
is a basketball killer. Like, no, no, no, I don't
want to tie this game. I want to do it
in New York. Shit, the entire garden up the garden
was silent. You can hear a pin drop in there
because they defense.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And I'm going to back up on Mitchell Robinson, who's
a seven foot I'm going to back up on you.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And Karl Anthony Towns played really well, but he plays
well against the Pacers, and you know, Brunson, he's gonna
give you forty three. But he you know, I just
felt like he was tiring, and rightfully so because of
how he plays. But they kept sending different bodies at him.
And that's that's what I said when this start started.
And we tend to overreact after game one. We always do.
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Game one to me, is the less impactful or most,
you know, the most important outcome of all the games
in a series, because how many times do you have
something happen in game one and you just forget about
it because there'll be a bigger game in game five
or at six or seven. Now this is one of
those where like Minnesota got blown out against OKC, they
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can wipe away game one. Now I go, okay, okay,
see it was just better this game. This one felt
like one and a half losses. If I'm a Knicks fan,
you kind of go into the garden differently. And and
I bring this up from experience, well obviously all the
NBA that I've covered over the years, but to be
at Yankee Stadium when the Yankees lost the you know,
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four game, they lost one game to the Red Sox. Now,
all of a sudden, they're just a little bit of doubt.
And then you could see this like it's tangible where
you could feel like the Yankees were feeling like, oh man,
I don't know, and then all of a sudden you
got to Game six, and then all of a sudden
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you go to Game seven, and then you're almost resigned
to the fact.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of we're losing. We're gonna lose this. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Seton that Yankees Red Sox series, which I've mostly blacked out.
I don't really have any memory of that time whatsoever,
but it's it was like, as a Yankee fan, you
started out being like, no, we're good, we got this series,
We're gonna roll right through, and then by the end
of it you were so unsure. Similar to how the
Sports Emmys went two nights ago, where before I was like, hell, yeah, dude,
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we're winning, and right before we got there, I was like,
I don't think we're gonna That was basically that you
get to Game seven in that series, you're.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Crying goat.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Teams leading by at least fourteen points in the final
three minutes of the fourth quarter, we're nine hundred and
ninety four and oh, since play by play began in
nineteen ninety seven, nine hundred and ninety four to oh,
we can't lose this. It's impossible. It's not impossible. You're
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saying they had a chance and they took advantage of it. Yally,
I keep saying this. It feels like, more often than ever,
just when you think you've seen it all, you haven't.
Mike Florio will join us. The tush push is here?
Is it here to stay? Maybe just for this upcoming season.
(16:20):
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of Jim Ersay, the Colts owner, and maybe his finest moment,
and I think people I hope people will recognize this
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A little bit later on in the program, Tom Pelsero,
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the owner's meetings. Before we get to Mike Florio from
Pro Football Talk. I mentioned that this might be my
favorite Jim er Say moment, the Colts owner who passed
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away yesterday in Los Angeles at the age of sixty five.
And it took place a couple of years ago, I
believe twenty twenty two, and Jim Ersay said that he
believes there's merit to remove Daniel Snyder as the owner
of the Commanders. They were at their NFL Fall League
meetings in New York, and he said, hopefully you could
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get twenty four out of thirty two owners who would
agree with him and Ersay's comments came less than a
week after ESPN dot com plub published an article that
detailed Daniel snyder alleged efforts to influence other owners and
the league office to allow him to keep the team.
Snyder told people close to him that he had negative
(18:55):
information on fellow NFL owner's league executive It Dibbs and
the commissioner. Ersa told reporters he couldn't care less he
believed that Daniel Snyder needed to be out of the NFL.
We make way for Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live
co host. You can see it Monday through Friday prior
to this show on Peacock and the author of Father
(19:18):
of Mine, Son of Mine, available in e book form
on Amazon for ninety nine cents. Mike, your thoughts on
Jim Irsay?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
He was one of.
Speaker 13 (19:29):
Kinds Dan and Chris and I were trying to find
any other owner over the years that was as.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Overwhelmingly authentic in all ways.
Speaker 13 (19:41):
He said what he believed. He did so many good
things without seeking any type of publicity.
Speaker 12 (19:48):
Tony Dungee told.
Speaker 13 (19:49):
Us a great story earlier today about how when Tony
was the coach in his first year in two thousand
and two, his dad would come to the home games
and Jim said, well, just have him fly on the.
Speaker 12 (20:00):
Plane to the road game.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
So in two thousand and three, every road game, Tony's
with his dad, and his dad passed after that season.
Just a little gesture like that, just caring about other people.
And he was gregarious, he was different, he was himself.
He helped address the stigma as relates to mental health.
He was very adamant about that. I just think that
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he was one of a kind. He cared about his team,
He cared about his players. You never hear any Colts
players complain about the way they were treated by Jim Mersy.
So the league is lesser for him. And I'm glad
you read that quote. He was the only one who
was willing to break ranks and say what needed to
be said, and what he said in October of twenty
twenty two needed to be said, and I think it
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contributed to the groundswell to make change. So Commanders fans
should be feeling very, very grateful and they should have
a special place in their own hearts for Jim, irsay, because.
Speaker 12 (20:54):
Without that, I don't know what happens.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
Maybe it would have happened anyway, but you have to
respect that he was willing to step aside from the
club and say what needed to be said.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Seemed to be a groundswell late yesterday that you had
Jason Kelcey, former Eagles center and he goes to the
owners meetings and he is a lobbyist basically trying to
get the tush push to stay in the NFL. I
don't know what kind of impact he had, but it
felt like he did have an impact here, Mike, because
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I think the NFL was doing their damn just to
get rid of this play and I.
Speaker 13 (21:26):
Don't think they're going to stop Dan twenty two to
ten the final vote. That means they only need to
get two teams to change their position between now and
next March if they try it again.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
And it's clear that the league is the one that
was behind this.
Speaker 13 (21:42):
We reported yesterday that they basically encouraged the Packers to
be the ones to make the proposal. They have their
own system for proposing rule changes. It's very odd to me,
and they did it with two different proposals this year,
the tush pushban and the playoff seating that was submitted
by the Lions. Rod Wood, the president of the team,
said they came to us and said, hey, how would
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you like to partner on this? Well, shure didn't seem
like a partnership. It seemed like it was the Lions.
So it's just a strange way of doing business. And
the bottom line, I think the commissioner wants both of
those things and he's close. Two teams need to have
their arm twisted sufficiently to go from the yes to
the no as it relates to the tush push. So
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I don't think this is over and it's unfortunate because look,
they created the atmosphere where this play was allowed to
emerge by changing the rules against pushing the runner in
two thousand and six and allowing it. And you can
make whatever case you want to make, but I think
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at the end of the day, it just comes off
as we don't like the fact that the Eagles have
cracked the code and no one else can crack it,
so we're going to get rid of it. And it
makes it hard, I think, to sell to the average
person because it just feels like kind of a petty
and small attack on what the Eagles have perfected.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
If this is Tampa Bay Do we care about this?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's the Eagles and they're winning, and they're winning a
Super Bowl, and I just wonder is it the play
or is it the team with the play.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
I think that it's a confluence of events that have
led to where we now are. It's the combination of
the play is very effective. The Eagles are highly successful.
Dan I believe the catalyst for this, and there's evidence
to back it up.
Speaker 12 (23:35):
Mike Pereira, the Fox rules analyst formerly.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
The VP of Officiating, he said in the days after
the NFC Championship that that ugly exchange we saw with
the Commanders jumping offside repeatedly to the point where the referee,
Sean Hockyley had to warn the Commanders, if you do
it again, we're going to award a touchdown to the Eagle,
something that's never been done in the history of the league,
a touchdown awarded for what they call a palpably unfair act.
(23:59):
I think some one saw that, possibly the guy whose
signature is on every football, and said we got to
get rid of this thing.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
We can't have this.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
And it's a bunch of different things that came together,
and the problem is They shouldn't nip this in.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
The bud when it first started.
Speaker 13 (24:13):
They should have realized, no, no, no, we never meant
by changing the WRULD to allow pushing the runner, that
you're gonna build it into your playbook and you're gonna
weaponize it, and you're gonna create this play that doesn't
look like a football play. But they waited too long,
and now it looks like an attack on the Eagles,
and when they try to give justifications, it's almost Keystone cops.
Well it's a safety risk, Okay, shows the data. Well
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we don't have any data.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
Well it could be a safety risk. Well what does
that mean.
Speaker 13 (24:40):
Well, it doesn't look like a football play, and they're
moving the goalposts around literally on this thing, and it
just it's a bad look.
Speaker 12 (24:47):
It's a very bad look for the league.
Speaker 13 (24:49):
And I think that every team out there they have
two challenges now, One.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
Come up with a way to do it. Two come
up a way to stop it.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
When we were in Green Bay for the draft and
I pressed Matt Lafleur, I said, did the league, you know,
instruct you? And he said, well, we were nudged. We
were nudged. They you know, they needed to have a team,
so hey, we want you to be the sacrificial lamb.
Put your name to it, just like the Lions with
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the playoff seating. So yeah, I mean, you know, coach
told us that that the league nudged them in so
many words.
Speaker 13 (25:27):
Yeah, and that just it's odd And why would you
pick the Packers as the team to do it?
Speaker 12 (25:31):
They lost to the Eagles twice last year. It reeks
of sour grapes. If they do it, pick a team
from the AFC.
Speaker 13 (25:37):
The Bills would have been the perfect team to get
behind this, literally because they do it too, and they
do it well. Now, the original proposal didn't affect the
way the Bills do it because they always do a
delayed push. The first proposal targeted immediate push, and that
would have opened Pandora's box of inconsistency and cries of rigging.
(25:58):
Can you imagine, Dan, if the Eagles had scored a
touchdown at the goal line in a playoff game and
a flag comes out because someone in black and white
stripes thought it was immediate and maybe it wasn't. They
already have enough fans saying the fixes in. That would
have been a nightmare, so they backed up and they said, well,
(26:18):
let's just come up with.
Speaker 12 (26:19):
A general band.
Speaker 13 (26:20):
But at the end of the day, at the end
of the day, there's still two thirds of the league
that wants to get rid of it. It's only because
the league requires a seventy five percent super majority to
change the rules that it stayed. There is something to
be said for the fact that twenty two teams want
to get rid of it, and I think that that's
going to embolden the commissioner to work the back channels,
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make a deal, maybe make a little bit of a threat.
We've seen retribution in the past for teams that oppose
things the commissioner wanted. And I know that that you know, oh,
you're not supposed to say those things, but it's true.
It's true. We've seen it. I know teams believe they've
been targeted for unfavorable scheduling or multiple short week games
because they were against flexing of Thursday night football.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
That happened a couple of years ago.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
So I don't think this is over and by next year,
Dan don't be surprised if there's safety data to support
the position.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host
also contributor to NBC Football Night in America. The Olympic
Flag Football initiative is going strong thanks to the NFL.
Help me understand how many NFL players will actually be
on the US Olympic roster for flag football.
Speaker 13 (27:34):
Well, they announced the US men's team for the twenty
twenty five competitions earlier this week and there were twelve
players and six ordnates. But for the Olympics, it's a
five on five flag football with ten players on the team.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
I don't know how many ordinates.
Speaker 13 (27:48):
The proposal that became a final resolution this week allows
for one player maximum per NFL team to be available
for the Olympics, plus their International Pathway Program player that
they have.
Speaker 12 (28:00):
But the main thing is the.
Speaker 13 (28:02):
Players who are the stars, the names we know receivers
really want to do this for the most part, a
lot of them.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
Okay, let they go get the gold medal.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But that roster made up of ten players can consist
of how many NFL players.
Speaker 13 (28:17):
It can be ten, it can be ten, but only
one per team, Okay, so the entire roster can be
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
They're basically going to say to all the people who
do play play frank flag football, professionally that we're going
to take away your roster spots.
Speaker 13 (28:34):
For the most part, I think it's still early on
and all we know is one player per NFL team
is eligible, and there will be ten players on the
US men's team. It's going to be for the USA
Football group to determine who's on the team.
Speaker 12 (28:50):
And there's I don't know how you're gonna do it.
Speaker 13 (28:52):
Are you gonna have tryouts, are gonna have competitions? Are
you just going to make a guess as to which
NFL players will able to be able to learn flag football,
which is a very different game than tackle football. How
much prep time are you going to have every rep
that you put in to practicing for the Olympic? Flag
football is another opportunity to be injured.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (29:14):
People say, oh, it's flag football.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
Well google Robert Edwards if you want to know what
can happen to somebody who's not playing tackle football but
still playing football. And that's the risk that the NFL
has persuaded the teams to take. Under this guise of
you're only putting one player up for the Olympics, there's
so many other ways this can go. You know, there's
no agreement between the NFL and the union yet on
how this is going to work.
Speaker 12 (29:36):
The union may have some things to say.
Speaker 13 (29:38):
I can see a scenario where players can bargain with
their teams to sacrifice their right to play in the
Olympics if the team wants to pay them a little
more money. I mean, if I was an owner and
I have a star player who's on the fence, maybe
I get a clause in his next contract where he
waives his right to be part of the Olympic team.
And if I'm the player and I can get more
(29:58):
money by doing that, all for it.
Speaker 12 (30:00):
But they haven't.
Speaker 13 (30:01):
They haven't even begun to negotiate how this is going
to look. There's so much more work that needs to
be done. This is the beginning. It feels like the end.
Speaker 12 (30:10):
No no, no, no no. There's so much that still
needs to be done over the next three years.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
The Brock pretty deal. Whenever there's a deal, a big deal,
I always go to Pro Football Talk. I go go
to your site, because hey, you sort through all of this,
Because agents will put out look at what I got
for my player, and I always go, all right, let
me see what Florio has found out. Tell me the
Brock pretty deal and is it good for Is this
(30:39):
team friendly?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is it Brock friendly? How do you kind of gauge this?
Speaker 13 (30:45):
I think at the end of the day, Dan, it's
a fair deal for both sides. That acknowledges the reality
that brock Purty isn't a top five quarterback.
Speaker 12 (30:52):
And I know that there are forty nine Ers fans who.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
Will insist otherwise. He's not a top five quarterback. He's
not a top ten quarterback in my opinion pack, and
there's no shame in being middle of the pack in
NFL quarterbacks. That means for the guy who was the
last pick in the draft, there's only fifteen guys on
the planet who can play quarterback in the NFL better
than him. And the way this deal is gonna go,
he'll make thirty eight million a year for the next
three years. The key date is April one, twenty twenty seven.
(31:18):
That's the deadline for the forty nine Ers to cut
him before having fifty five million become fully guaranteed in
twenty twenty eight. So based on the next two years,
they'll make a decision as to whether to be on
the hook for fifty five million fully guaranteed in what
would be year four of the contract, and they could
(31:39):
get out of it after two years. They'd still owen
twenty seven million dollars, subject to offset, but they can
get out of this after two years if the chariot
turns into a pumpkin, so they have some protection. That's
always one of the key factors that's never in the
initial reporting. How long are the forty nine ers truly committed.
They're truly committed for two years. They're gonna have to
make a decision after year three by April one, whether
(32:01):
or not they want to be on the hook for
another fifty five million in twenty twenty eight. But over
six years, it's forty five million a year. That's all
that matters. New Money Average is a fiction aimed at
making the agents look better. Fifty three million doesn't mean anything.
What matters is it's a new six year contract. He'll
make forty one million this year instead of five million,
and it's a six year, forty five million dollar deal.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Got better understanding on Aaron Rodgers' future or the Bengals
Trey Hendrickson Neither neither.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
And look, the reality with Hendrickson is he's got some options.
Speaker 12 (32:35):
He's got some leverage, he's got some cards to play.
Speaker 13 (32:37):
But if he holds out of all the teams in
the NFL, Dan, you know this, the Bengals don't care.
They told Carson Palmer, you want to sit home on
the couch watch him bowling and eating.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
Pork rynes, go for it.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
We don't care. We don't have to pay you. We'll
pocket the money eight hundred and eighty eight thousand a game.
Trey Henderson gives up. Mike Brown's like, fine, put it
with the rest. So they're not gonna blink. They're not
gonna bow here. The reality is how much pressure is
Joe Burrow going to put on the Bengals to do this.
He started the effort around the Super Bowl. He named
four guys, Jamar Chase t Higgins, Mikeasiki, and Trey Hendrickson.
(33:11):
And I think the Bengals stepped up to the plate with.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Three of them under pressure from Joe Burrow.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
Will they do what they need to do to make
Trey Hendrickson happy.
Speaker 12 (33:20):
That remains to be seen.
Speaker 13 (33:21):
But there isn't a whole lot he can do to
force this, because if he stays home, they'll say, fine,
we'll keep your money and with Rogers Ian.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
O'Connor, who wrote the biography.
Speaker 13 (33:29):
Last year, he was on with one of the Pittsburgh
radio stations in ninety three to seven the fan last week,
and he thinks it'll happen during OTAs. I think it
makes sense for it to happen soon. And he's there
next week for OTAs. But remember this, when Brett Farve
showed up with the Vikings in two thousand, I remember
there was a schism in the Minnesota locker room between
the guys who wanted Brett Favro and the guys who
wanted Traveris Jackson.
Speaker 12 (33:49):
You know how long it took for the schism to
be resolved.
Speaker 13 (33:52):
One practice the moment Aaron Rodgers shows up and starts
throwing passes that make a sound they've never heard before.
When it whizzes by their head, they'll say, okay, we
know why you waited.
Speaker 12 (34:05):
Until whenever it was that Aaron Rodgers decided to show up.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Your takeaway from the Brett Favre documentary.
Speaker 13 (34:13):
Well, look, and I think there's two different types of audience.
One the people who don't follow the NonStop drip drip
drip of NFL news, like for me, there was nothing new.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
I was looking for something new. There's nothing new there.
It's a nice summary of everything that's happened.
Speaker 13 (34:29):
But there was nothing that made me say, well, I
have to go write a story for PFT with this quote,
this development, this thing.
Speaker 12 (34:35):
It's all stuff we already knew. But it's all in
one place. And I don't know, Dann, were you surprised
by anything that was in it? I wasn't. I knew
it all.
Speaker 13 (34:44):
And yeah, that's the stuff Brett Farv did or allegedly did.
Gotta be careful, don't want to get sued the stuff
we know he did and this stuff he allegedly did.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Good to talk to you, Mike, Thank you, ch answer
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live. Co ho an author
of Father of Mine and Son of Mine, available in
ebook form on Amazon only ninety nine cents.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
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Speaker 9 (36:21):
Yeah, we're working on the Warriors poll question as we speak,
very excited about that. We also just put up there
the choke symbol last night was awesome or a mistake?
Right now it is fifty to fifty. Oh awesome, slesh mistake.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Okay, got some information here has to do with the
college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Oh brother, all right, my source.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Just sent me this look for the College Football Playoff
to adopt straight seating for the upcoming twenty twenty five season.
Now they had the protected seeds that made the past
playoff both confusing and illogical. You had automatic qualifiers. So
look for the automatic qualifier issues and a sixteen team
(37:10):
playoff to arrive as we've anticipated for the twenty twenty
sixth season. Okay, we're also waiting to find out the
House versus the NCAA settlement, and that should be happening
any moment. The settlement will change, nil will change, revenue share,
(37:32):
will change roster size, competitive strategies for just about every
nc DOUBLEA institution in some way. Also, the vote that
I talked about, there's going to be a vote that
will happen today, some minor tweaking of the financial structure.
There'll be broad understanding that this is the piece that
(37:55):
had to be addressed going forward. So that vote should
happen today. The automatic qualifiers, there'll be a sixteen team playoff.
All of that anticipated for the twenty twenty six season.
But College Football Playoffs will adopt a straight seating for
the twenty twenty five season rather than the protected seeds
that we had. My source goes on to say, one
(38:19):
thing is clear, College Athletics is about to undergo extraordinary,
monumental and complicated change once again. Yeah, we're still trying
to figure out, you know, House of Representatives and College
Athletics and NIO and what all of this is going
(38:39):
to mean. But we're not going to have automatic qualifiers.
We're gonna have street seating, and then in twenty twenty
six it looks like we're going to have a sixteen
team playoff.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So this, according to my source.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Sneaking a couple of phone calls here, Fritzy has a
rhyme time coming up as well. He has a New
York Knicks riddle.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Those I have something they wear the clues that I'm
working on the clues, and then we'll give you the answers.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Oh, okay, do you want to give me the rhyme time?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, one would be Nick's riddle, Nick riddle, and the
answer has to be two words of that rhyme with
each other.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
That's the wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
So you're not coming up with the Nicks riddle.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The actual rhyme time, what would Nix riddle be? What
two words would rhyme for Nick's riddle? Based on what
happened last night, Nix. You know Marvin choke joke, that
would be choke joke. There was also and desist Halliburton,
and desist Halliburton.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Cease there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Work on a few others. Okay, that's just a sampling there.
Jeff and Tampa. Jeff, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
More? DC.
Speaker 14 (39:53):
I was just wondering if the Spurs, I know they
missed out on coop of Flag, but if they want
the pair of Yamis with the French tickler to form
the best interior defense of all time, Tree Purkie senator
around Harper's kid, is that enough to get the hill done?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I think you got to give up a lot more.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I know they're talking about Stefan Castle and then there
are two lottery picks. That's not enough for me. If
I'm Milwaukee. Stephan Castle was the rookie.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Of the year. I don't think he's a great player.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I think he was just maybe right place, right time,
right team, and he played he played well this year.
I'm not building around Stefan Castle. Even Dylan Harper, Ron
Harper's son, or Ace Bailey, who's also at Rutgers. You
give me two lottery picks, give me the Rookie of
the year.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I'm gonna need. I'm gonna need more than that for Giannis,
gonna need more than that.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Yes, Marvin and I still have question marks about the
number two and three picks that were on the same
team that didn't make the NCAA Turning.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yes, yes, that's what jumps out. Ben Simmons team didn't
make the NCAA tournament. Markel Fold's team didn't make the
NCAA tournament. You have two guys who are going to
go in the top five. They might go number two
and number three. They didn't make the NCUBA turn It's
hard to not make the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Yes, Mart, they barely made the Big ten tournament. Like legit,
they were on the cuss of not making the Big
ten tournament.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
More phone calls coming up. More on the Knick's choke job.
Head back to the NFL owners meetings. Chris Weber will
join us a little bit later on as well. Minister
of Humor Fritzi is here. Seat and Marv yours truly
backroom guys, Hour two on this Thursday.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
On the way
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's a Thursday. It's our one on this Thursday, down
a Danette Paul. He's not here today, but Fritzi will
make up for that. The Minister of Humor also, Seaton's here,
Marvin yours truly, and the Brgs. We're off tomorrow. So
I said, well, how about a meet Thursday. Well, Dylan
who is well he's not a chef, but he's a
(00:25):
cook and he also does graphics. But I'm here yesterday
and he's putting the finishing touches on some things. So
he's ready to go today, getting the trigger girls fired
up and I leave. I come in this morning and
I noticed he's got this huge bandage on his thumb.
I think he took off part of his thumb yesterday
(00:46):
right after I left slicing onions. So I think he
got to bed around three in the morning after going
to the emergency room. But you know, we don't have
a big staff here, so I said, look, you gotta
come in.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I need you.
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And he's here. He's a gamer and quite a menu
as well, pulled pork sliders. We also have Philly cheese steaks.
We have lobster rolls lobsters, and we have lobster bisk
Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Nobody, nobody.
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I could always be a Knicks fan today because they
got to feel a whole lot worse than we did.
(02:02):
They were winning, We weren't even winning winning, and all
of a sudden, in historical fashion, you blow a lead.
This will be the question. We always do this all
the shows. Well, did one team win it or one
team lose it? The Knicks blew it. The Knicks blew it.
When you're up fourteen inside three minutes in your building,
(02:25):
you blew it now. Since nineteen ninety seven, in the postseason,
there have been total four comebacks from seven or more
points in the final fifty seconds of the fourth quarter overtime.
The Pacers have three of the four, all happening this season.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
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Play of the Day and of the Day coming up
as well. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. He'll wrap
up what we saw at the owners meetings as the
tush push is still here at least for another year.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Tom Pellasero, also.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
At the owner's meetings, will join us later on, and
Hall of Famer mister Fab five Chris Weber a little
bit later on as well, so recapping the Pacers shocking
the Knicks in Game one and Shay Gilgis Alexander wins
the NBA MVP although we already knew he wanted because
(03:33):
Shams broke the story and then Shaq was opening up
an envelope last night, and we're supposed to suspend belief
or disbelieve, like, okay, maybe something else happened here that
we don't know. Maybe Shams didn't get it right, and
all of a sudden, Shack goes shake Gilgus Alexander MVP.
(03:53):
They got to figure out how to do this because
you can't hold this kind of information this amount of time,
because you remember when Dirk Novinsky had to accept the
MVP after I think they were blown out by the
Golden State Warriors in round one. I mean they I
was told that somebody was suggesting to give Shay Gilgess
(04:15):
Alexander the MVP while he's facing Joker in Denver. I go, no, no, no, no,
that's not the way you should be doing this. It
should be something that it's a great moment. And even
if we all thought that Shay Gilgess was going to win,
let's do it. Have an announcement so we can treat
(04:36):
it in real time that yay, all right, you won, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But when I was a kid, when Michael Jordan and
Charles Barkley were receiving the MVP awards, they did it
before a game. So you wouldn't want shakee Gildess alisand
to do it before a game.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Not in Denver, not not on you know, Joker's home court.
You want to do it in. Okay, see, absolutely, go ahead.
I have no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And Joker knows he's not winning the MVP, but you know,
do it right after the regular season.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We don't. Let's not try to hold off. Remember they tried.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
To do the awards ceremony and then then COVID came
in and then they decided not to do that anymore.
It just it's a great moment for SGA. You want
to treat it as such, giving him, you know, the
award prior to a game. Home crowd gets to honor him. Great,
I'm fine with that. Yes, done.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
It would have been very awkward if there was another
name besides SGA in that envelope because SJA was standing
by with all his teammates to do an interview on
inside the NBA.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
That might have been slightly awkward if he read a
different name.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, but he was going to win. He dominated with
first place votes and Joker second place votes. But Shay
Gilgess Alexander Well deserving of MVP.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
All right. Back to the Knicks collapse.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
This is Kevin Harland with the call with the Tyres
Halliburton shot that we thought was the game winner that
just tied the game.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Indiana with it. Calliver, don't take it. He'll back pedal
a free from the room. It was only a two
and he did the choke sign. Reggie Miller's in the building.
(06:19):
And keep in mind when Reggie hit his shots, and
that was nineteen ninety four, did the choke sign to
Spike Lee Pacers lost that series. It would have been
really embarrassing if you do a choke sign and you
tie the game, you glind overtime and then you don't win.
But it did feel like the momentum was there. It
felt like the PACER's depth had worn the knicks down.
(06:42):
You know, Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns were great. Brunson
certainly with the scoring, but you know, you're throwing five
different defenders at Jalen Brunson and it just felt like
when you needed him, he couldn't come up big put
you in that position to win game. And Karl Anthony Towns,
but Tyrese Haliburton had thirty one, aaron Ne Smith had thirty.
(07:06):
This will be the aaron Ne Smith game. Ten years
from now, fifteen years from now, we'll talk about Tyrese
Haliburton shot and the choke sign. But You're gonna remember
aaron Ne Smith because this is really a defensive minded guy.
I mean he's counted on to play defense, and when
you're hitting five three pointers, I mean that's not expected
(07:30):
from him. He hit six three pointers in the fourth quarter,
tying the NBA record for most three pointers in a quarter.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Last person to do with Steph Curry. You expect that
to happen. But you know the Knicks, they were up
by seventeen. They choked, they did. Here's Tyrese Haliburton after
the game. I've seen that winning.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Time doc probably like fifty times growing up, so I
know that they didn't win the series, so I would
not like to repeat that. But you know, I think
that's just a historic moment, and that was obviously more
him versus Spike, kind of the one on one, and
that just felt like there was to everybody, but to
him too. I want him to see more than anything.
(08:18):
But I think this is really cool to continue to,
you know, make my own history in this group, to
make our own history while also showing you know, respect
and love to the ones that came before us. So
definitely a special moment, and yes, I'm all't.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Forgot Tyrese Aliburton's having a hell of a month Playoff
Boost voted the most overrated player by fellow players. Nobody's
saying that anymore. And there are certain athletes regular season good,
postseason better. Jimmy Butler, Reggie Miller, just to name a
few good regular season all of a sudden, you know,
(08:55):
they're attracted to the spotlight. They don't shy away from
the spotlight. Tyre's Halliburton. It's a wonderful performance, and you
do it in the Garden. I mean, that's where legends
are made. When you think about Reggie's career. If Reggie
doesn't have his moments against the Knicks, you could probably
make a case maybe in the Hall of very good,
one of the greatest shooters of all time. But to
(09:17):
have that, I mean, those are moments that they stay with.
They're indelible marks for your career when you have a
moment at the Garden, and Tyre's Halliburton certainly had one
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Speaker 3 (09:47):
What are you thinking? We got a couple of them
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Speaker 9 (09:50):
We got one here from Marvin just based off recent events,
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Dylan Grady based on him chopping as work today.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
All right, yeah Dylan hashtag warrior. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They're blood all over the place here, and I'm like, oh,
it looked like a crime scene like this doesn't bode well.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
For Meet Thursday by the way.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Yeah, it's certainly less appetizing here.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yes, I know, gotta admit, yeah, I'm going to be
looking at my lobster roll a little closer.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, what other AnyWho, the choke symbol last night
was awesome or awesome, but a mistake.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think if you ask him if he would like
to have that back, he probably would say yes, you
think so, yeah, because it wasn't the game winner, and
you don't want history repeating itself because the Pacers when
Reggie did it, didn't win that series. It's a great moment,
and you're going to be on the you know, cover
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the newspapers in New York front page, probably side by
side with Reggie.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
With the choke sign.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But eh, I don't know, Marvin, what do you think
is that something that Tyrese Halliburton's gonna go you know
on on second thn.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
No, I loved it because, you know what, the Knicks
earned that choke sign. If there was any time to
use it, it was right there, because that's one of
the biggest choke jobs I've ever seen it.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
If you don't if you don't win an overtime, then
it looks silly because yes, it was a choke job,
but then you don't want to choke after giving the
choke sign, and then the Knicks come back and win.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
That video of him doing the choke sign could have
easily paired with him walking into the tunnel with his
head down after losing it overtime.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Very easily that could have happened. Yes, yes, Ton, you're
Robert Dyson.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
To the chokes on. Reggie's calling the game.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
It's at the Garden Pacers the can in the moment
he thought he won the game until they checked it
out and said called it a two for overtime.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
He thought that was a game winning shot.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
That was a winning three and it wasn't a good shot, terrible,
it was awful.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
What do you do? And then all of a sudden, that's.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
One of those no, no, yes, yes, that's crazy, dude,
that was a crazy shot.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh my god, that was a crazy shot.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I don't know if that was the design on the play.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No, I don't know if Rick Carlisle said, hey, you know,
that's what we wanted or it was I don't know.
Just try to get a shot off here. And you
needed it too. That that's the thing that I didn't
understand if you were going you didn't need it too.
But you know, two cents the end overtime at three
wins it. But then get to the three point line.
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He saw glory. He saw glory right there. He was like,
glory is right behind that line, right there. I try
to get there. But I do love that because you're
taught on the road go for the win. You don't
want to tie and go into overtime, but you also
want to make sure you get a good shot to
win it, as opposed to I'm not going to take
the two might be a better shot, I'm going to
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go for the you know, the jugular here the throw,
which is exactly what he was trying to do.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yes, Marvin, but that scenario just showed me that dude
is a basketball killer. Like, no, no, no, I don't
want to tie this game. I want to do it
in New York. Shit, the entire garden up the garden
was silent. You can hear a pin drop in there
because they defense.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And I'm going to back up on Mitchell Robinson, who's
a seven foot I'm going to back up on you.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And Karl Anthony Towns played really well, but he plays
well against the Pacers, and you know, Brunson, he's gonna
give you forty three. But he you know, I just
felt like he was tiring, and rightfully so because of
how he plays. But they kept sending different bodies at him.
And that's that's what I said when this start started.
And we tend to overreact after game one. We always do.
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Game one to me, is the less impactful or most,
you know, the most important outcome of all the games
in a series, because how many times do you have
something happen in game one and you just forget about
it because there'll be a bigger game in game five
or at six or seven. Now this is one of
those where like Minnesota got blown out against OKC, they
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can wipe away game one. Now I go, okay, okay,
see it was just better this game. This one felt
like one and a half losses. If I'm a Knicks fan,
you kind of go into the garden differently. And and
I bring this up from experience, well obviously all the
NBA that I've covered over the years, but to be
at Yankee Stadium when the Yankees lost the you know,
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four game, they lost one game to the Red Sox. Now,
all of a sudden, they're just a little bit of doubt.
And then you could see this like it's tangible where
you could feel like the Yankees were feeling like, oh man,
I don't know, and then all of a sudden you
got to Game six, and then all of a sudden
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you go to Game seven, and then you're almost resigned
to the fact.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of we're losing. We're gonna lose this. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Seton that Yankees Red Sox series, which I've mostly blacked out.
I don't really have any memory of that time whatsoever,
but it's it was like, as a Yankee fan, you
started out being like, no, we're good, we got this series,
We're gonna roll right through, and then by the end
of it you were so unsure. Similar to how the
Sports Emmys went two nights ago, where before I was like, hell, yeah, dude,
(15:25):
we're winning, and right before we got there, I was like,
I don't think we're gonna That was basically that you
get to Game seven in that series, you're.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Crying goat.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Teams leading by at least fourteen points in the final
three minutes of the fourth quarter, we're nine hundred and
ninety four and oh, since play by play began in
nineteen ninety seven, nine hundred and ninety four to oh,
we can't lose this. It's impossible. It's not impossible. You're
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saying they had a chance and they took advantage of it. Yally,
I keep saying this. It feels like, more often than ever,
just when you think you've seen it all, you haven't.
Mike Florio will join us. The tush push is here?
Is it here to stay? Maybe just for this upcoming season.
(16:20):
We'll get some thoughts from him. Coming up. The passing
of Jim Ersay, the Colts owner, and maybe his finest moment,
and I think people I hope people will recognize this
might be Jim Ersay's finest moment. I'll tell you what
it was when we return Dan Patrick's show.
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A little bit later on in the program, Tom Pelsero,
NFL Network Insider, will stop by recapping what happened at
the owner's meetings. Before we get to Mike Florio from
Pro Football Talk. I mentioned that this might be my
favorite Jim er Say moment, the Colts owner who passed
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away yesterday in Los Angeles at the age of sixty five.
And it took place a couple of years ago, I
believe twenty twenty two, and Jim Ersay said that he
believes there's merit to remove Daniel Snyder as the owner
of the Commanders. They were at their NFL Fall League
meetings in New York, and he said, hopefully you could
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get twenty four out of thirty two owners who would
agree with him and Ersay's comments came less than a
week after ESPN dot com plub published an article that
detailed Daniel snyder alleged efforts to influence other owners and
the league office to allow him to keep the team.
Snyder told people close to him that he had negative
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information on fellow NFL owner's league executive It Dibbs and
the commissioner. Ersa told reporters he couldn't care less he
believed that Daniel Snyder needed to be out of the NFL.
We make way for Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live
co host. You can see it Monday through Friday prior
to this show on Peacock and the author of Father
(19:18):
of Mine, Son of Mine, available in e book form
on Amazon for ninety nine cents. Mike, your thoughts on
Jim Irsay?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
He was one of.
Speaker 13 (19:29):
Kinds Dan and Chris and I were trying to find
any other owner over the years that was as.
Speaker 12 (19:38):
Overwhelmingly authentic in all ways.
Speaker 13 (19:41):
He said what he believed. He did so many good
things without seeking any type of publicity.
Speaker 12 (19:48):
Tony Dungee told.
Speaker 13 (19:49):
Us a great story earlier today about how when Tony
was the coach in his first year in two thousand
and two, his dad would come to the home games
and Jim said, well, just have him fly on the.
Speaker 12 (20:00):
Plane to the road game.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
So in two thousand and three, every road game, Tony's
with his dad, and his dad passed after that season.
Just a little gesture like that, just caring about other people.
And he was gregarious, he was different, he was himself.
He helped address the stigma as relates to mental health.
He was very adamant about that. I just think that
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he was one of a kind. He cared about his team,
He cared about his players. You never hear any Colts
players complain about the way they were treated by Jim Mersy.
So the league is lesser for him. And I'm glad
you read that quote. He was the only one who
was willing to break ranks and say what needed to
be said, and what he said in October of twenty
twenty two needed to be said, and I think it
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contributed to the groundswell to make change. So Commanders fans
should be feeling very, very grateful and they should have
a special place in their own hearts for Jim, irsay, because.
Speaker 12 (20:54):
Without that, I don't know what happens.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
Maybe it would have happened anyway, but you have to
respect that he was willing to step aside from the
club and say what needed to be said.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Seemed to be a groundswell late yesterday that you had
Jason Kelcey, former Eagles center and he goes to the
owners meetings and he is a lobbyist basically trying to
get the tush push to stay in the NFL. I
don't know what kind of impact he had, but it
felt like he did have an impact here, Mike, because
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I think the NFL was doing their damn just to
get rid of this play and I.
Speaker 13 (21:26):
Don't think they're going to stop Dan twenty two to
ten the final vote. That means they only need to
get two teams to change their position between now and
next March if they try it again.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
And it's clear that the league is the one that
was behind this.
Speaker 13 (21:42):
We reported yesterday that they basically encouraged the Packers to
be the ones to make the proposal. They have their
own system for proposing rule changes. It's very odd to me,
and they did it with two different proposals this year,
the tush pushban and the playoff seating that was submitted
by the Lions. Rod Wood, the president of the team,
said they came to us and said, hey, how would
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you like to partner on this? Well, shure didn't seem
like a partnership. It seemed like it was the Lions.
So it's just a strange way of doing business. And
the bottom line, I think the commissioner wants both of
those things and he's close. Two teams need to have
their arm twisted sufficiently to go from the yes to
the no as it relates to the tush push. So
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I don't think this is over and it's unfortunate because look,
they created the atmosphere where this play was allowed to
emerge by changing the rules against pushing the runner in
two thousand and six and allowing it. And you can
make whatever case you want to make, but I think
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at the end of the day, it just comes off
as we don't like the fact that the Eagles have
cracked the code and no one else can crack it,
so we're going to get rid of it. And it
makes it hard, I think, to sell to the average
person because it just feels like kind of a petty
and small attack on what the Eagles have perfected.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
If this is Tampa Bay Do we care about this?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's the Eagles and they're winning, and they're winning a
Super Bowl, and I just wonder is it the play
or is it the team with the play.
Speaker 13 (23:19):
I think that it's a confluence of events that have
led to where we now are. It's the combination of
the play is very effective. The Eagles are highly successful.
Dan I believe the catalyst for this, and there's evidence
to back it up.
Speaker 12 (23:35):
Mike Pereira, the Fox rules analyst formerly.
Speaker 13 (23:38):
The VP of Officiating, he said in the days after
the NFC Championship that that ugly exchange we saw with
the Commanders jumping offside repeatedly to the point where the referee,
Sean Hockyley had to warn the Commanders, if you do
it again, we're going to award a touchdown to the Eagle,
something that's never been done in the history of the league,
a touchdown awarded for what they call a palpably unfair act.
(23:59):
I think some one saw that, possibly the guy whose
signature is on every football, and said we got to
get rid of this thing.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
We can't have this.
Speaker 13 (24:06):
And it's a bunch of different things that came together,
and the problem is They shouldn't nip this in.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
The bud when it first started.
Speaker 13 (24:13):
They should have realized, no, no, no, we never meant
by changing the WRULD to allow pushing the runner, that
you're gonna build it into your playbook and you're gonna
weaponize it, and you're gonna create this play that doesn't
look like a football play. But they waited too long,
and now it looks like an attack on the Eagles,
and when they try to give justifications, it's almost Keystone cops.
Well it's a safety risk, Okay, shows the data. Well
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we don't have any data.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
Well it could be a safety risk. Well what does
that mean.
Speaker 13 (24:40):
Well, it doesn't look like a football play, and they're
moving the goalposts around literally on this thing, and it
just it's a bad look.
Speaker 12 (24:47):
It's a very bad look for the league.
Speaker 13 (24:49):
And I think that every team out there they have
two challenges now, One.
Speaker 12 (24:53):
Come up with a way to do it. Two come
up a way to stop it.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
When we were in Green Bay for the draft and
I pressed Matt Lafleur, I said, did the league, you know,
instruct you? And he said, well, we were nudged. We
were nudged. They you know, they needed to have a team,
so hey, we want you to be the sacrificial lamb.
Put your name to it, just like the Lions with
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the playoff seating. So yeah, I mean, you know, coach
told us that that the league nudged them in so
many words.
Speaker 13 (25:27):
Yeah, and that just it's odd And why would you
pick the Packers as the team to do it?
Speaker 12 (25:31):
They lost to the Eagles twice last year. It reeks
of sour grapes. If they do it, pick a team
from the AFC.
Speaker 13 (25:37):
The Bills would have been the perfect team to get
behind this, literally because they do it too, and they
do it well. Now, the original proposal didn't affect the
way the Bills do it because they always do a
delayed push. The first proposal targeted immediate push, and that
would have opened Pandora's box of inconsistency and cries of rigging.
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Can you imagine, Dan, if the Eagles had scored a
touchdown at the goal line in a playoff game and
a flag comes out because someone in black and white
stripes thought it was immediate and maybe it wasn't. They
already have enough fans saying the fixes in. That would
have been a nightmare, so they backed up and they said, well,
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let's just come up with.
Speaker 12 (26:19):
A general band.
Speaker 13 (26:20):
But at the end of the day, at the end
of the day, there's still two thirds of the league
that wants to get rid of it. It's only because
the league requires a seventy five percent super majority to
change the rules that it stayed. There is something to
be said for the fact that twenty two teams want
to get rid of it, and I think that that's
going to embolden the commissioner to work the back channels,
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make a deal, maybe make a little bit of a threat.
We've seen retribution in the past for teams that oppose
things the commissioner wanted. And I know that that you know, oh,
you're not supposed to say those things, but it's true.
It's true. We've seen it. I know teams believe they've
been targeted for unfavorable scheduling or multiple short week games
because they were against flexing of Thursday night football.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
That happened a couple of years ago.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
So I don't think this is over and by next year,
Dan don't be surprised if there's safety data to support
the position.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host
also contributor to NBC Football Night in America. The Olympic
Flag Football initiative is going strong thanks to the NFL.
Help me understand how many NFL players will actually be
on the US Olympic roster for flag football.
Speaker 13 (27:34):
Well, they announced the US men's team for the twenty
twenty five competitions earlier this week and there were twelve
players and six ordnates. But for the Olympics, it's a
five on five flag football with ten players on the team.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
I don't know how many ordinates.
Speaker 13 (27:48):
The proposal that became a final resolution this week allows
for one player maximum per NFL team to be available
for the Olympics, plus their International Pathway Program player that
they have.
Speaker 12 (28:00):
But the main thing is the.
Speaker 13 (28:02):
Players who are the stars, the names we know receivers
really want to do this for the most part, a
lot of them.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
Okay, let they go get the gold medal.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But that roster made up of ten players can consist
of how many NFL players.
Speaker 13 (28:17):
It can be ten, it can be ten, but only
one per team, Okay, so the entire roster can be
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
They're basically going to say to all the people who
do play play frank flag football, professionally that we're going
to take away your roster spots.
Speaker 13 (28:34):
For the most part, I think it's still early on
and all we know is one player per NFL team
is eligible, and there will be ten players on the
US men's team. It's going to be for the USA
Football group to determine who's on the team.
Speaker 12 (28:50):
And there's I don't know how you're gonna do it.
Speaker 13 (28:52):
Are you gonna have tryouts, are gonna have competitions? Are
you just going to make a guess as to which
NFL players will able to be able to learn flag football,
which is a very different game than tackle football. How
much prep time are you going to have every rep
that you put in to practicing for the Olympic? Flag
football is another opportunity to be injured.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (29:14):
People say, oh, it's flag football.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
Well google Robert Edwards if you want to know what
can happen to somebody who's not playing tackle football but
still playing football. And that's the risk that the NFL
has persuaded the teams to take. Under this guise of
you're only putting one player up for the Olympics, there's
so many other ways this can go. You know, there's
no agreement between the NFL and the union yet on
how this is going to work.
Speaker 12 (29:36):
The union may have some things to say.
Speaker 13 (29:38):
I can see a scenario where players can bargain with
their teams to sacrifice their right to play in the
Olympics if the team wants to pay them a little
more money. I mean, if I was an owner and
I have a star player who's on the fence, maybe
I get a clause in his next contract where he
waives his right to be part of the Olympic team.
And if I'm the player and I can get more
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money by doing that, all for it.
Speaker 12 (30:00):
But they haven't.
Speaker 13 (30:01):
They haven't even begun to negotiate how this is going
to look. There's so much more work that needs to
be done. This is the beginning. It feels like the end.
Speaker 12 (30:10):
No no, no, no no. There's so much that still
needs to be done over the next three years.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
The Brock pretty deal. Whenever there's a deal, a big deal,
I always go to Pro Football Talk. I go go
to your site, because hey, you sort through all of this,
Because agents will put out look at what I got
for my player, and I always go, all right, let
me see what Florio has found out. Tell me the
Brock pretty deal and is it good for Is this
(30:39):
team friendly?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Is it Brock friendly? How do you kind of gauge this?
Speaker 13 (30:45):
I think at the end of the day, Dan, it's
a fair deal for both sides. That acknowledges the reality
that brock Purty isn't a top five quarterback.
Speaker 12 (30:52):
And I know that there are forty nine Ers fans who.
Speaker 13 (30:54):
Will insist otherwise. He's not a top five quarterback. He's
not a top ten quarterback in my opinion pack, and
there's no shame in being middle of the pack in
NFL quarterbacks. That means for the guy who was the
last pick in the draft, there's only fifteen guys on
the planet who can play quarterback in the NFL better
than him. And the way this deal is gonna go,
he'll make thirty eight million a year for the next
three years. The key date is April one, twenty twenty seven.
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That's the deadline for the forty nine Ers to cut
him before having fifty five million become fully guaranteed in
twenty twenty eight. So based on the next two years,
they'll make a decision as to whether to be on
the hook for fifty five million fully guaranteed in what
would be year four of the contract, and they could
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get out of it after two years. They'd still owen
twenty seven million dollars, subject to offset, but they can
get out of this after two years if the chariot
turns into a pumpkin, so they have some protection. That's
always one of the key factors that's never in the
initial reporting. How long are the forty nine ers truly committed.
They're truly committed for two years. They're gonna have to
make a decision after year three by April one, whether
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or not they want to be on the hook for
another fifty five million in twenty twenty eight. But over
six years, it's forty five million a year. That's all
that matters. New Money Average is a fiction aimed at
making the agents look better. Fifty three million doesn't mean anything.
What matters is it's a new six year contract. He'll
make forty one million this year instead of five million,
and it's a six year, forty five million dollar deal.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Got better understanding on Aaron Rodgers' future or the Bengals
Trey Hendrickson Neither neither.
Speaker 13 (32:30):
And look, the reality with Hendrickson is he's got some options.
Speaker 12 (32:35):
He's got some leverage, he's got some cards to play.
Speaker 13 (32:37):
But if he holds out of all the teams in
the NFL, Dan, you know this, the Bengals don't care.
They told Carson Palmer, you want to sit home on
the couch watch him bowling and eating.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
Pork rynes, go for it.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
We don't care. We don't have to pay you. We'll
pocket the money eight hundred and eighty eight thousand a game.
Trey Henderson gives up. Mike Brown's like, fine, put it
with the rest. So they're not gonna blink. They're not
gonna bow here. The reality is how much pressure is
Joe Burrow going to put on the Bengals to do this.
He started the effort around the Super Bowl. He named
four guys, Jamar Chase t Higgins, Mikeasiki, and Trey Hendrickson.
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And I think the Bengals stepped up to the plate with.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Three of them under pressure from Joe Burrow.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
Will they do what they need to do to make
Trey Hendrickson happy.
Speaker 12 (33:20):
That remains to be seen.
Speaker 13 (33:21):
But there isn't a whole lot he can do to
force this, because if he stays home, they'll say, fine,
we'll keep your money and with Rogers Ian.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
O'Connor, who wrote the biography.
Speaker 13 (33:29):
Last year, he was on with one of the Pittsburgh
radio stations in ninety three to seven the fan last week,
and he thinks it'll happen during OTAs. I think it
makes sense for it to happen soon. And he's there
next week for OTAs. But remember this, when Brett Farve
showed up with the Vikings in two thousand, I remember
there was a schism in the Minnesota locker room between
the guys who wanted Brett Favro and the guys who
wanted Traveris Jackson.
Speaker 12 (33:49):
You know how long it took for the schism to
be resolved.
Speaker 13 (33:52):
One practice the moment Aaron Rodgers shows up and starts
throwing passes that make a sound they've never heard before.
When it whizzes by their head, they'll say, okay, we
know why you waited.
Speaker 12 (34:05):
Until whenever it was that Aaron Rodgers decided to show up.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Your takeaway from the Brett Favre documentary.
Speaker 13 (34:13):
Well, look, and I think there's two different types of audience.
One the people who don't follow the NonStop drip drip
drip of NFL news, like for me, there was nothing new.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
I was looking for something new. There's nothing new there.
It's a nice summary of everything that's happened.
Speaker 13 (34:29):
But there was nothing that made me say, well, I
have to go write a story for PFT with this quote,
this development, this thing.
Speaker 12 (34:35):
It's all stuff we already knew. But it's all in
one place. And I don't know, Dann, were you surprised
by anything that was in it? I wasn't. I knew
it all.
Speaker 13 (34:44):
And yeah, that's the stuff Brett Farv did or allegedly did.
Gotta be careful, don't want to get sued the stuff
we know he did and this stuff he allegedly did.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Good to talk to you, Mike, Thank you, ch answer
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Speaker 3 (35:06):
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websy God, this is the play of the day.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Check this out. Two point games.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Six seconds to go. Haliburton driving, he's in the lane.
He nearly lost, and he backs up and unloads a three.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
That did not happen. It hit the back of the
rim hip.
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Hop high into the air.
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Had it dropped gently through the net.
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Speaker 9 (36:21):
Yeah, we're working on the Warriors poll question as we speak,
very excited about that. We also just put up there
the choke symbol last night was awesome or a mistake?
Right now it is fifty to fifty. Oh awesome, slesh mistake.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Okay, got some information here has to do with the
college football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Oh brother, all right, my source.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Just sent me this look for the College Football Playoff
to adopt straight seating for the upcoming twenty twenty five season.
Now they had the protected seeds that made the past
playoff both confusing and illogical. You had automatic qualifiers. So
look for the automatic qualifier issues and a sixteen team
(37:10):
playoff to arrive as we've anticipated for the twenty twenty
sixth season. Okay, we're also waiting to find out the
House versus the NCAA settlement, and that should be happening
any moment. The settlement will change, nil will change, revenue share,
(37:32):
will change roster size, competitive strategies for just about every
nc DOUBLEA institution in some way. Also, the vote that
I talked about, there's going to be a vote that
will happen today, some minor tweaking of the financial structure.
There'll be broad understanding that this is the piece that
(37:55):
had to be addressed going forward. So that vote should
happen today. The automatic qualifiers, there'll be a sixteen team playoff.
All of that anticipated for the twenty twenty six season.
But College Football Playoffs will adopt a straight seating for
the twenty twenty five season rather than the protected seeds
that we had. My source goes on to say, one
(38:19):
thing is clear, College Athletics is about to undergo extraordinary,
monumental and complicated change once again. Yeah, we're still trying
to figure out, you know, House of Representatives and College
Athletics and NIO and what all of this is going
(38:39):
to mean. But we're not going to have automatic qualifiers.
We're gonna have street seating, and then in twenty twenty
six it looks like we're going to have a sixteen
team playoff.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
So this, according to my source.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Sneaking a couple of phone calls here, Fritzy has a
rhyme time coming up as well. He has a New
York Knicks riddle.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Those I have something they wear the clues that I'm
working on the clues, and then we'll give you the answers.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Oh, okay, do you want to give me the rhyme time?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, one would be Nick's riddle, Nick riddle, and the
answer has to be two words of that rhyme with
each other.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
That's the wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
So you're not coming up with the Nicks riddle.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The actual rhyme time, what would Nix riddle be? What
two words would rhyme for Nick's riddle? Based on what
happened last night, Nix. You know Marvin choke joke, that
would be choke joke. There was also and desist Halliburton,
and desist Halliburton.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Cease there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Work on a few others. Okay, that's just a sampling there.
Jeff and Tampa. Jeff, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
More? DC.
Speaker 14 (39:53):
I was just wondering if the Spurs, I know they
missed out on coop of Flag, but if they want
the pair of Yamis with the French tickler to form
the best interior defense of all time, Tree Purkie senator
around Harper's kid, is that enough to get the hill done?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I think you got to give up a lot more.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I know they're talking about Stefan Castle and then there
are two lottery picks. That's not enough for me. If
I'm Milwaukee. Stephan Castle was the rookie.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Of the year. I don't think he's a great player.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I think he was just maybe right place, right time,
right team, and he played he played well this year.
I'm not building around Stefan Castle. Even Dylan Harper, Ron
Harper's son, or Ace Bailey, who's also at Rutgers. You
give me two lottery picks, give me the Rookie of
the year.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I'm gonna need. I'm gonna need more than that for Giannis,
gonna need more than that.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Yes, Marvin and I still have question marks about the
number two and three picks that were on the same
team that didn't make the NCAA Turning.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yes, yes, that's what jumps out. Ben Simmons team didn't
make the NCAA tournament. Markel Fold's team didn't make the
NCAA tournament. You have two guys who are going to
go in the top five. They might go number two
and number three. They didn't make the NCUBA turn It's
hard to not make the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Yes, Mart, they barely made the Big ten tournament. Like legit,
they were on the cuss of not making the Big
ten tournament.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
More phone calls coming up. More on the Knick's choke job.
Head back to the NFL owners meetings. Chris Weber will
join us a little bit later on as well. Minister
of Humor Fritzi is here. Seat and Marv yours truly
backroom guys, Hour two on this Thursday.
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On the way
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