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May 14, 2025 41 mins

Dan reacts to the news of Celtics star Jayson Tatum getting surgery on his torn Achilles. Dan dives into the major news of MLB reinstating the likes of Pete Rose and "Shoeless" Joe Jackson and debates their Hall of Fame consideration.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
One on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan EDGs Dan
Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board. A couple
of games tonight, Nix at the Celtics Game five, and
maybe a little bit of a surprise with Jason Tatum out.
The Knicks are four and a half point underdogs, the
Warriors at the Timberwolves. The Warriors are eleven point underdogs,

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and perhaps we say goodbye to the Golden State dynasty.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Coming up tonight in game.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Nick Wright from Fox Sports. A little later on the
best catcher in the history of the game, Johnny Bench
will join us, as well as Pete Rose and the
nineteen nineteen White Sox taken off the permanently ineligible list.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
We'll talk about that. Coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Pacers close out the Cavaliers, they win it in five
thunderbeat the Nuggets despite a huge performance, monster game by Joker,
and they lead three games to two. Phone calls. Operator
Tyler standing by and we'll come up with a poll question.
Play of the day, stat of the Day all of that,
and we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock,

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that's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't
done so, if you'd like to watch the program came
in today. I saw all this stuff in the kitchen.
I go, it's somebody forget to put away the dishes,
Like what's going on. Seaton goes, we have a chef
coming in, Chef Jack. And I go, he's a chef.
And then Seaton goes, no, oh, he's a grill master.

(01:36):
He's a grill master. He's very much not a chef, okay.
And then I see his shirt and it says not
a chef.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Hey, will you go to his Instagram bio The very
first thing you see is not a chef.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
So we have a grill master in here, grill Master
Jack on loan from Miller Lite.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
He is the I'm looking at his bio here, okay.
And he is the CEO of Steak. Oh, that's the
guy you want in studio. I like that, the CEO
of Steak, official grill Master of the Buffalo Bills. That's
a fellow right there. This is a guy who gets it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Okay. This is a guy who gets it.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
All right, So we have a meet Friday on Wednesday,
because Friday we will be grilling the Rich Eisen Show
on Celebrity Family Field. Who has it better than we do? No, no, nobody.
Why don't you tell grill master Jack to get the
menu here?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah? All right, we're.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Working on that menu. I think it's gonna have steak though.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
All right, I'm fine with them, I'll tell you that.
All right. What's pull question we're going to start out with.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I got I gotta figure out where we're diving into,
because once I go into the Pete Rose stuff, then
I don't know if I can get back out of that.
Basketball wise, you know, we've got the Knicks and the
Celtics coming up tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Warriors at the Timberwolves.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You had last night with the Pacers closing out the
Cavaliers and the Thunder beat the Nuggets and they're up
three games to two.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Can I had a couple of gentlemen's sweeps here? Okay,
who do you think gets that tonight? What do you
I don't want to do that to the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Boom, Yeah, the Celtics favored you got a chance, I know,
everybody's got a in Knicks Pacers. It would be great
for the Eastern Conference finals. Yeah, let's play the game first. Okay,
the Celtics got guys who can score. By the way,
it was successful surgery for Jason Tatum, and that happened fast.

(03:33):
We were waiting for an update. We figured it was
a torn achilles and then all of a sudden, it's
torn achilles and he said successful surgery. They never announced unsuccess.
All of my surgeries, not all of them were successful.
I'm just saying, not that there was media waiting for
Was it successful. No, it wasn't. On my right shoulder.

(03:53):
I don't think that was successful surgery. I'd still be
listed as probable but maybe doubtful. Yes, And I bet
you had that surgery though. They were like it was successful.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, they told me, yeah it was. It's got to be.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Weird to be say, an athlete like that and at
night you get injured. Next day they're like, all right, MRI,
and then as soon as you're done with the MRI,
they're like, oh, you're going into surgery right now.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yes, that's that's so fast. And sometimes you're still in
a state of shock. If you have an injury and
then usually they wait a little bit. It's swelling. And
I've never had an achilles injury or surgery, but it
feels like getting you in as early as possible because
the rehab. Now they've done a lot better with rehabbing.

(04:36):
And maybe it's not a twelve month injury, maybe it's
eight months. But Jason Tatum is out and how that
impacts this team. There's already taught speculation on the Celtics
roster for next year. They're not going to be able
to keep everybody. Al Horford won't be back, porzingis probably
not back, and you got some guys who are probably

(04:57):
up for you know, raises here. But the nucleus it's
still there. And you got Brown and Tatum making a
half a billion dollars with their contracts, but you got
Derek White in there, Pritchard has played really well, Drew Holliday,
so you still have that nucleus there. But you know,
these rosters they're built. You got an opportunity and then

(05:20):
all of a sudden, if you don't take advantage of that,
the window closes. But the Celtics tonight favored at home,
and I wouldn't be surprised if they win this one
and even win another game in this series. I just
they're a really good team, and sometimes you rally when
your best player is out. Watching Joker last night, he

(05:42):
did everything that he could do. This is one of
those where earlier in the series you had a couple
of games where some other players on the Nuggets played well,
and then you had a lot of people on social
media saying, oh, I thought Joker didn't have any help. Well,
if you watched last night, you realize Mike gold Porter
Junior the third he gave you one good game, but

(06:04):
he's had three games where he's gone one four, one
for seven, one for nine, and that's not good. You know,
Jamal Murray three for thirteen from three point range. It
was Joker last night, and I don't think they took
him out in the fourth. They basically said, look, go
out and see if you can play hero ball here.

(06:27):
But OKAC did a great job. You know, this is
number one defensive team. So imagine Jokers putting up forty
four against a group effort against OKC. And he's had
a couple of games that he has not played well whatsoever.
And I said at the start of this series. Don't
make this a referendum on who should be the MV pick.

(06:47):
Because Shay Gilgis Alexander will be and should be the
most Valuable Player based on the regular season, what he did,
what his team did, and you know the margin of
victory they had sixty eight wins.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
He is the MVP.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
There was talk yesterday and I had somebody in the
home office who was telling me, Hey, it's not going
to happen. You're going to read about it. They were
going to present Shay Gilgis with the MVP last night
in front of Joker, and I said, no, you can't
do that. It's mean spirited. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yes, Todd, that's very bad, Karmer.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
You don't want that. You don't want that kind of heat.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Thank you, Todd.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Okay, what's the poll question for the first hour of
the program? You want to do the gentleman's sweep. Well,
we're going to throw up with a gentleman's sweep there.
I have another one that's sort of more pop culture
related that I won't get into just yet, but that
one's going to go up there. And then I think
I hear rumblings from the front row about perhaps another
poll question.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Row Here's what I was thinking about, because watching The
Joker last night, I don't know if it's going to
be much better in Denver next year, he'll be great.
Which NBA star is furthest from their next title? Joker, Jannis,
Steph Curry, Lebron James other But those four guys, who
is furthest from a title?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'd say Jannis because he's on the bucks. I said
at the start of the year. You know, this is
malpracticed by the front office with Denver. If you don't
surround Joker, given that he's playing at the peak of
his powers, he won't win another title. And I believe
that he's a great player. He's a great player on

(08:31):
a good team. Jamal Murray gives you a couple of games.
It feels like every series where you go, all right,
it's just not consistent. Christin Brown's a really good player,
athletic player.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
But they had they had depth when they won the title.
You know, Aaron Gordon played really well. It's just Michael
Porter Junior did not play well. They lack depth here
and you're you're looking at these teams now, okaysee has depth.
Indiana has depth. It's really important this time of the year.

(09:06):
The Knicks don't, but you know that's the way Tom
Thibodeau coaches. Anyways, Hey, we got seven guys we're going
to play here. But Indiana, Indiana's going to be a
tough out no matter if it's the Knix of the Celtics.
Indiana's a really good team. And once again, when the
playoffs started, I said, you're gonna you're gonna be introduced
to the Pacers because you didn't watch them during the

(09:28):
regular season. And it's not necessarily on you. You do
what TV analyst or TV programmers tell you to do. Hey,
who's on TV tonight. I'll be damned it's the Lakers
once again. So they're not focusing in on sometimes really
good storylines like the Pistons. You were probably introduced to
the Pistons in the opening round of the playoffs. But

(09:49):
you know, I understand TV's playing the hits. They want
to make sure they get the most eyeballs. But what
happens is these these teams. I don't know how Tyrese
Haliburton could be the most overrated player according to a
player's vote if nobody sees him again It's weird that
you could be the most overrated player according to the players,

(10:09):
But how many people focus in on the Indiana Pacers.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Nobody's chanting overrated anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Certainly in Cleveland with Tyrese Halliburton, they played really, really well.
You know, it's not a sexy team. They will score
and they have depth there. They have size there as well,
and Rick Carlisle. It's got a pedigree of being a
champion as well. What other pole questions are we considered
anything else that Todd You had a few of them.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
I was wondering.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
And then will be Commissioner Rob Manfred now making Pete
Rose eligible for Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Is that cool or cruel? Oh? Cool? Okay, okay, cool
or cruel?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
We'll talk about that, see once we dive into that,
because I gave you a heads up a couple of
weeks ago when the Commissioner met with President Trump, and
all of a sudden I started to hear some of
the things, and then I realized Pete Rose will be
made eligible to be on a ballot, and lo and behold,

(11:09):
when it happened yesterday. I'm probably the least surprised person.
Pete died in September. I think the permanently ineligible, they
should have just said lifetime ban. They should change and
get rid of the permanently ineligible. Just make it a
lifetime ban, so in his lifetime he's not getting in.
Now you're going to put him in, and you're going

(11:31):
to put him in on the ballant. It doesn't mean
that you rubber stamp this and say Pete's going into
the Hall of Fame. There's some real hurdles here that
he has to overcome. That's why we'll have Johnny Bench'll
join us a little bit later on, but we'll talk
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Dan Patrick Show. The two games coming up tonight, The
Knicks are underdogs in Boston and the Warriors big underdogs
at the Timberwolf's all right, we'll talk about the Pete
Rose situation coming up in a moment. There was something
said after the Cavaliers were closed out last night. Donovan Mitchell,

(13:39):
who's a wonderful player, played through an injury. Team was
banged up a little bit, and he had this parting
shot for the media getting.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
Beat down like this, and y'all are going to write
some about us, man, and that's going to be fuel.
Thank you know, feel for everybody, say a lot, y'all
are and that's what it takes. I've been here, so
I understand, we understand, and now we just got to
use it as fuel for next year.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, you're trying to make it a positive, but to me,
you're gonna blame the media. The media didn't lose three
games at home. The media was there and praised you.
Sixty wins. Now it's gonna be the Cabs against the Celtics.
Felt like the media loved the story. Here you got
the coach of the year, defensive player of the year,

(14:32):
Donovan Mitchell. It was a great story. And I know
after a loss like that, you're embarrassed. You thought you
were going to go to the NBA Finals or certainly
the Eastern Conference finals. But don't pin this on the media.
I mean, you can blame us for a lot of things.
I wasn't the one who let Tyrese Haliburton go off.

(14:52):
You guys did. And I think we were giving you
a Hall pass to a certain degree because of all
the injuries. You weren't healthy, but you knew the Indiana
Pacers were going to go toe to toe with you
whether you were healthy or not. They were going to
take you to a six or seventh game in my
opinion when the series started. Okay, Pete Rose situation and

(15:15):
the nineteen nineteen Black Sox by the way, the movie
Eight Men out shoeless Joe Jackson. And now they are
off the permanently banned list. Now they can be under
consideration to be on a ballot to be voted on.
But that you know, we're far from people getting into

(15:36):
the Hall of Fame. Just want to let you know,
Baseball the Hall of Fame is maintained that anyone removed
from Baseball's permanently in eligible list will become eligible for
the Hall of Fame consideration. They have a historical Overview Committee.
Now they will come up with eight names and then

(15:58):
they'll evaluate these candidates. So these aren't just guys who
have been suspended are permanently ineligible. It's not just Pete
Rose and the nineteen nineteen Black Socks. You had guys
like Dick Allen, Tommy John, Dave Parker, Louis Tiant, Steve Garvey.
They were voted on by this committee. Now that's twenty

(16:20):
twenty four, and Dick Allen and Dave Parker got in.
I hope Steve Garvey gets in. But so these are
guys who just had great careers, but maybe the haull
of very good. They're not going to meet again until
December of twenty twenty seven. We got a lot of
time in between. It's not a foregone conclusion. Now, Jules,

(16:43):
you want to talk about cheating the game. The White
Sox known as the Black Socks, they threw the World Series,
Like that's cheating the game? Did Pete cheat the game?
He gambled on the game, and they don't have anything
on him as a player. Now, do I think there's
information about that?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I do, But what they have the information is about
him as a manager. Here I've said before I grew
up in Cincinnati. I've interviewed Pete many many times. He
said that he only bet on the Reds to win,
and said that to me a few years ago, and
I understand what he means to the game. I know

(17:20):
that the Hall of Fame is a museum and they
can do whatever they want to do. The Hall of
Fame is separate from Baseball, but really they work in conjunction.
Hall of Fame is not going to say, Hey, we're
going to go rogue and we're going to do this.
It is a museum. But nobody has benefited more from
the Hall of Fame without being in the Hall of

(17:41):
Fame than Pete Rose. Because if Pete was in the
Hall of Fame twenty five years ago, nobody would care
and be like, oh, yeah, saw Pete. All the memorabilia there? Yeah,
going through Cooperstown. I mean Pete would go up there
on the weekend that guys were getting into the Hall
of Fame and he would hijack that weekend. He would

(18:02):
do card signing appearances. Pete never changed. That was the
problem I had, And I talked to the former commissioner,
Bud Seely on the record, off the record. Privately, Pete
had no contrition. He never apologized. He only said that
he did it after he was writing a book to
make money.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Do I want it over with? I do.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Either he's in or he's out. Vote and he doesn't
get in, or he does get in. And this doesn't
open the door for steroid users. They truly cheated the
game every single game, but they got on the ballot.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I don't want them in now.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
There's some that are probably already in, but Pete is
a unique situation. Shoeless Joe Jackson, I think hit three
seventy five in that World Series, and he's accused of
helping to throw the World Series to the Cincinnati Rens.
But Pete to get where he is, I'm not surprised.

(19:01):
I truly think this was maybe a quid pro quo
with President Trump, and I think that President Trump knows
that this will play to the mass is every you know,
most people want Pete in the Hall of Fame, and
I think that President Trump knows that he can take
a victory lap with this. And whatever that discussion was

(19:22):
with the Commissioner, Rob Manfred, who we did invite, he
said that he's busy today. If he does have time.
This will be the one show he will do. Something
was said in that conversation that made the commissioner maybe reconsider.
Pete's family came to the commissioner. They appealed, they wanted

(19:43):
to appeal this. I think Baseball wanted to make sure
that Pete Rose did not have his day in Cooper's town,
that he did not have the opportunity to get up
there live with a microphone in his hand and able
to say whatever he wanted to say. Although if Pete
does get in posthumously, I be really curious who is

(20:07):
going to give the speech and what are they going
to say in that speech? If it's Pete's son, are
you going to do fire in Brimstone or are you
just going to go thank you for allowing my father
into the Hall of Fame. There's a lot of reaction
to this, and that's why we'll have Johnny Bench on.
He'll join us a little bit later on. But the

(20:30):
steps to get into the Hall of Fame, it's there's
still a long and winding road here. But I think
that's where people have the foregone conclusion of hey, he's
getting into the Hall of Fame soon, and the answer
is he's not. And this committee is made up of
former players, former writer or maybe current writers. But you

(20:53):
have a group that's involved in this, and they're going
to be the ones voting. I think there's six teen
people on this committee, the Historical Committee. But make no
mistake about it, you still have players who played the
game the right way, had really good resumes. They just
didn't make the Hall of Fame when they went through

(21:13):
the normal process there. But you got some really good
players and I think shoeless Joe Jackson should go in
before Pete Rose does. If you're going to have a
vote on this, and do you do it chronologically, how
many of those players with the White Sox nineteen nineteen
or Hall of Fame worthy? Maybe one, two, maybe three?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
That's it?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Put Pete on there. You got other guys, Louis ti On,
Steve Garvey. You know they're gonna get votes. They're gonna
get you know, all of a sudden, you got Steve
Garvey there, and then you got Pete Rose. Who are
you voting for if you're on this historical committee? And
how many of these former players are going to go Nope,
not going to vote for him? Now, Johnny Bench has

(21:58):
come out and said, Hey, I hope Hete gets in
the Hall of Fame. I think the commissioner got to
the point where now he can wash his hands from
with this. Every time he's on the show, any show,
Pete Rose comes up. Now he's done. Now he might
have to answer to me like why now if Pete
was still alive. But the Commissioner's not voting on this.

(22:23):
And you know when they say permanently ineligible, that means
after you've died. Now you change the language too, it's
a lifetime ban. Well, the lifetime is over. His life
is over. Now he can be up for consideration. I
think that's the tricky language that the commissioner changed edited.

(22:48):
But you know they even said that Pete, you know,
it's not a threat to the game anymore. That was
kind of strong language. I don't when I saw Pete
in a wheelchair, I don't think he's a threat to
anybody right now.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, the quote was obviously, a person no
longer with us cannot represent a threat to the integrity
of the game. It's hard to conceive a penalty that
has more deterrent effect than one that lasts a person's
lifetime with no reprieve.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
By the way, it's Pete Rose Night tonight at Great
American Ballpark. Coincidentally, the Reds will honor the career of
Pete Rose with a special celebration tonight at Great American Ballpark.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
All right, and guess who they're facing?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
The White Sox. You couldn't script.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Oh my goodness, everybody get black socks that come in.
These are the red sauce, the red stockings versus the
Black Sox.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Here Pete Rose.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Everybody gets a Pete Rose replica jersey that shows up
tonight for Pete Rose.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
You can't script this. This was planned or maybe they
didn't script this? Yeah, was it planned?

Speaker 8 (24:09):
Dang?

Speaker 1 (24:12):
See all right, you know it would be great, guys.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, I know that's what I'm thinking. Hold on, hear
me out. Okay, all right, I'm gonna announce this Pete
Rose thing. How about Hey, how about we get a
hold of Cincinnati and then we say, hey, guys, how
about a Pete Rose knight?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, yeah, we'll do that. We'll have him played the
white size. Oh so it's White six night. No, no, no,
we're not going to celebrate them. We're only celebrating Pete.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And it's May fourteenth, and he wore the jersey number fourteen.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
We've got it. Okay, yes, Todd, I bet that's a
tough ticket.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Okay, soon, so.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Come on, let's parlay too, ye okay?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh okay? Greg and Florida, Greg, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (25:03):
Good morning? Six foot plus one handicap.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
I grew up in Claire Water, Florida, and uh I
was fortunate enough to be able to uh watch old Charlie.
Hustle was the name of his career when the Phillies
got him, you know, his shitty and zinski what a team.
And boy, I just sat at the fence and was
watching him, and he truly did hustle everywhere he went,
jogged and he was just the iron man. It was,

(25:29):
it was, it was, it was stunning watching that man
on the field. Uh, by the way. But now conversely,
when it comes to the special awards and all this stuff,
Shooter Show, Jackson, all of them, any of them, look
you cheat the game, they look into it. They give
you a ban just because Major League Baseball teaming up

(25:53):
with the gambling stuff and we're all becoming dejender. Gambling's
okay now, so it doesn't change what to what he did.
Live die go on. He did what he did. That's
to give him elgibility to me is putting a staff
on it. Well, but it's okay to be to do
wrong about the game knowingly. That's the thing, knowingly doing wrong.

(26:16):
So I don't think twenty years, forty years, one hundred
years should make a difference. A cheat is a cheater.
Someone who does wrong is done wrong, and that's that.
Have a nice day out of McGill. Let's not send
a bad message to the kids.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
All right, Well, thank you, Greg.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
So this overview committee, they'll get together the twenty twenty
seven Classic Baseball Era Committee ballot, So you need twelve
votes by the sixteen member committee, and the committee has
made up of four former players, for former executives, for writers,
and for historians. And then you're voted on to be

(26:55):
inducted in the summer of twenty twenty eight. That's where
you have to understand, you know, the timing of this
is not all of a sudden later this summer peats
in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, Pauline, this.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Does bring us back to the original topic with Pete Rose.
Is he stopped playing in nineteen eighty six, he instantly
became a manager. He was only like a couple of
years away from being on the Hall of Fame ballot
before this story broke. Let's say the story broke ten
years after his career and he was already in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Would he have been pulled I doubt it. OJ's not
pulled out of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Right, So let's say, if this committee actually discusses Pete Rose,
should they look at his playing career as the only
topic in the room.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, and I'm repeating myself, but I've done this for decades.
Now that I liken Pete Rose to cheating in grad school,
getting caught cheating in grad school, I do not take
away what he did as an undergraduate. Now, he got
his degree and you know what was suma kum laude.

(28:00):
But he cheated in grad school and he got caught.
Can I separate the two? You can try. I don't
think Pete started gambling when he became a manager. Okay,
let's just let's be fair about this. Do I think

(28:21):
he bet on sports when he was playing? Absolutely, I
know that for a fact. Do I know about baseball
I do not know that what we know about him
as a manager. Do I think there's more information there?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
The question is does it come out or is this
commissioner going to say, let's judge Pete on just what
we know about Pete, which is fine. I don't think anybody.
You know, there's very little investigative reporting anymore in the
sports world. I don't know if anybody is going to
take the time to dig into this try to find
out if there's more to this.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Feels like we've kind of passed that.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
And you know, unfortunately I would love to have seen
Pete give a speech. I would, and we won't have that.
And they have all his memorabilia there. And that's where
people say, well, baseball is capitalized on Pete Rose. Yes, yes,
he's still part of the history of the game. Yeah,
they trot him out for certain events, Yes they do.

(29:23):
Baseball can be hypocritical here. Pete could have turned those
things down. He could have said, no, I don't want
to be part of this until you make me part
of baseball officially. I don't want to be part of it.
But Pete was there do an interview with Jim Gray
and Jim Gray's asking him about gambling. I just think
Pete thought he was bigger than the game. I think

(29:46):
until he died, he still thought he was bigger than
the game. And that was the unfortunate part. Bud Selig
said to me, Well, I suggested it.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
To the commissioner.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I said, you know what, have Pete go into the
minor leagues and spend a couple of years traveling around,
and he could be a gambling ambassador to what not
to do and help these kids understand the price that
he paid. If there was contrition, I think Pete would
have been in the Baseball Hall of Fame. I think

(30:18):
if he would have apologized, he fought baseball and they
had him. They had so much information, so much data, honey.
But I think if he had done that and created
this goodwill ambassador, I think he would have already been
into the Baseball Hall of Fame. But what made Pete
great is what kept him out of the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
He refused to give in. That's Pete.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Roger Clemens is this way, Lance Armstrong this way, Barry
Bonds this way. What made you great is what is
going to keep you out of the Hall of Fame.
But now it's up to this committee to decide. But
make no mistake about it, this is not happening anytime
soon as far as Pete getting in or getting on
a ballot, you gotta wait till December of twenty twenty seven.

(31:07):
All right, we'll take a break. Got our play of
the day coming up next. We're back after this on
The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan
Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every
weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on
the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on

(31:27):
the Peacock app. Oh my God, the Play of the Day.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
Where websiticonic play.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
This is the play of the day.

Speaker 10 (31:38):
Check this out.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
First pitch swing a fly ball field deppend of the night?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Gone do you call me? Killing me?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Hovey Bias free run home on his second of the night.

Speaker 9 (32:02):
What game?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Courtesy of Tigers Radio Network. Four walkoffs in baseball Fernando
Tatis Junior the third, JP Crawford. He walked off the
Mariners over the Yankees. He also had Hobby Baiez as well.
Among the four walkoff home runs yesterday and last night.

(32:25):
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(32:46):
in Washington, Hi, Andrew, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (32:49):
Good morning, Dan Denned's thanks for taking my call of
you know with Pete Rose and the nineteen nineteen White
Sox getting off the band lift. I also served my
one week band from all the show, and I'd like
to be on the oversight committee as well. You know so,
But anyways, it's a great day to call in because
my original take of the Cleveland Cavaliers being the twelve

(33:11):
and zero of Washington Wizards of twelve and ozhero teams
has come true. They were great in the regular season,
not great in the postseason. They lost three home playoff
games for the first time in franchise history, and Indiana
Indianapolis excuse me, won three road games in the playoffs
since two thousand and five.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
So I like to say that, and my last.

Speaker 11 (33:33):
Parting shot at the Cavaliers is suck at Bob, suck
it Mob, Bob Bob.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, wow, all right, Andrew, Andrew taking a shot there.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's also possible he meant Rob, who was the Knicks
fan in the back room. M I mean, it's possible,
but he did say clearly say Bob.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
If the Knicks had eliminated the Cavaliers, then he could
have said something about Rob who works in the back room,
a very very nervous Knicks fan.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Guys, would you just stop talking about I know?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
So we have this huge fan. He works in the
back he does a great job at the newsletter. He's
very uncomfortable at this moment. Guarantee that very uncomfortable. That's
the guy if you're watching on Peacock who said he
could beat Zion Williamson in a race.

Speaker 10 (34:22):
Just sa.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
But he comes out in the morning and we want
to talk about the NIXT He's like, gosh, guys, I
don't want to talk.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Guys, so I don't want to talk.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Like Okay, everybody acting tough, talking, tough underdog in the
garden tonight.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Who's gonna step up tonight. Yes, Marvin Pole.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Question, what's the real garden TD or Madison Square?

Speaker 8 (34:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Well, Madison Square, but the old garden, the old Boston
Garden like that was like TD is just a that's
just a building.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
That's a lie.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, that's a building. Yes.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
When it opened up, it was called the Fleet Center.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, on you lie?

Speaker 5 (35:05):
The new Guard shut up in nineteen was the Fleet
sid with Dino Raja.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Uh Turbo in Buffalo? Hi, Turbo. What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (35:16):
I had a couple of things for ya. I have
a quote from a NHL goalie. I know you're talking
about Pete Rose with the playoffs wrong, but this one
goalie said. I mentioned if you were at work and
you make a mistake and a big light goes off
behind you in twenty thousand people, Boot and I have
two trivia questions, Soria all right and you and the

(35:37):
then ask if anyone can get them? Okay, Michael Michael
Jordan wore three different jerseys in his NBA career. We
all know twenty three, yeah, forty five. What was the
other one? Does anyone know?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Paul? It was twelve.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
He was on a road game. I don't remember against
who his Jersey was stolen handerwear twelve with no name
on the back.

Speaker 10 (36:02):
Nice. And I also read a Time magazine about there's
a thing that came out but forty four things about
Michael Jordan. Hey, this is what he wanted to be
if he didn't want to be a basketball player. Can
they get that one?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
A gym teacher, A weather man?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Oh okay, well thank you, thank you, Turbo.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yes, John, which does make sense.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
Because he's air Jordan, so he can talk about the
atmosphere and all kinds of things weather related.

Speaker 10 (36:29):
All see, it all works out.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Doug in North Carolina? Hi, how was that?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I know?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
And he's forced it was for It was forestare Forestair?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Doug, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well, I've got to tell you, guys, I've never been
more jealous than you than I am this week, super Bowl,
the Draft, Ireland all is great, but the fact that
you get to go on family feud is is incredible.
So I wanted to give you a pole question and
also some unsolicited advice. The pole question is simply, if

(37:05):
you are courageous enough to ask America this, who would
be placed their money on in the buzzer around? You
are rich? Isising and my unsolicited advice, and I love you.
But he's got fifteen years or you've got fifteen years
on him. He seems to be in good shape. And
you've gone from green viper portie to puttering around in

(37:25):
a pontoon boat. You've slowed down a little bit. Dan,
I think you've got to leave early. I think you
know when, you've got to be one of these people
who hit the buzzer before the entire question is asked.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Okay, thank you, Doug. I think.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm working on the line up here because I have
to go first, and then I'm thinking Marvin's next to me,
then Fritzie, then seat and then Paulie. I think that's murderer's.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Row right there? Is that? What is the strategy behind that?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I don't even understand how that why that's like, why
that means something?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Well, you guys at the tail in guys are the
young creative types. You guys be batting sort of cleanup
and okay, yeah, so it's a compliment to you guys.
Marvin because he's my friend, you just like him best, yes,
all right, yes, and then Todd because.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Man hasn't worn out as welcome yet not yet I
got a couple of years left.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, and then all of a sudden
it would be like.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's like, uh, where's Skippy?

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Can you get Skippy in here? He's my new friend.
Speaking of wearing out, they're welcome, yes time.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Wow, I'm already gonna be next to you on the airplane,
so I can understand why you want to be right
next to you for the game.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
I don't get a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I can't have that. I can't have that. Yes.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
So last night someone sent me a research paper by
a professor from I think Furman University, and he had
how you should strategize family feud and he did a
deep dive study and one of the things he's suggested, wait, wait, oh,
should we not give this out.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
For rich rich Isin's listening.

Speaker 6 (38:52):
Or we're setting them up by this? This could be
a false study.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I'm here and they're getting a lot of reps in
on their show. Yeah, overpract Maybe they're overthinking.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Yeah, you can overstudy for an exam.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah yeah, I never experienced that, overstudying for an exam.
But yeah, this is I'm obviously feeble at the end
of my career, and you know, I could be taken
advantage of.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
By the Eisen Show.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
Or it's to set up, could be could be playing
the long game.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, just as long as we don't embarrass ourselves, we
have to win.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
No, that's that.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Okay, this isn't like the sports Jemmy's.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Do you want to win family feud or do you
want to be wildly entertaining?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You got to pick Todd.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
I'm gonna go entertaining.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know if you love that answer. I like
the answer because this is its content. Steve Harvey wants entertainment. Yes, yes,
Steve Harvey wants us to be entertaining. But I want
to win, Okay, Marvin, I definitely want to win.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Okay, Paulie, I would love to see one of the
five of us have a moment that everyone sees for
one day.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, I'd like to go viral getting millions of views.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
An entertaining moment or two is much more memorable than
who won at the end and got two hundred and
eight points and got the charity money or whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I don't know what you get. I know we get you.
We're giving money to charity if we win, yest.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
But what if your entertaining moment is a colossally terrible
answer that cost us winning the game.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yes, we did it. That was awesome, That was good context.
I want that.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And I'm trying to get a restaurant, you know, by
the hotel where we're staying tomorrow night. So I'm trying
to find I suggested barbecue, so I know a place. Well,
we have to make a reservation here. There's going to
be six of us that somebody's birthday to call.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Magic City Wings.

Speaker 9 (41:01):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Hey, yes, portion to the main stat restaurant.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I swear make it rain.
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