June 5, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan opens up the discussion about overly long concerts after hearing a report that Taylor Swift’s latest show went over three hours. And he wonders if the Boston Celtics getting Kristaps Porziņģis back is really a good thing.
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Day forthcoming. We'll get into sports here coming up in
a moment. But as I always do, I start out
my morning talking about Taylor Swift and I was mentioning
to the dan Ets did a concert in Europe where
I think it was three and a half hours long.
I think it might have been in the rain three
and a half hours, and I was thinking, at what
(01:09):
point is.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
A concert too long?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I went to an Elvis Constello concert that was last
year in New York, and while I wanted to see
Elvis Constello, I got to see a little too much
of Elvis Constello. So it was over three hours and
it was a little too long.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That might have had something to do with these seats
that I was in, because they were built for somebody,
probably back in the nineteen twenties, and my wife and
I had to squeeze into the seats, and it was
a little it was a little too long, a little
too long. I've been to a Springsteen show where I
go getting up there close to eleven. We've been going
(01:47):
strong for over three hours, and I got to drive back.
Would you rather have a concert too long or too short?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Too long or too short? I'll start with you.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Too short if they play all the hits?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, okay, now we have an asterisk by this, Okay,
seaton too long, too short concert.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm trying to think band by band genre.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah, some bands I might be like, no, this is
to I think too short, because there's definitely been times
like a Springsteen concert I went to I was every
single song was a hit, and I was like, damn, man,
this is three plus hours.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now, this can end anytime.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I once went to go see this band called the
Mars Volta and they played for seemingly like two and
a half hours, but they only played about five songs.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Their songs were just that long, yes, and.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I was like, oh my god, there were ties they
were forty five minutes into and I was like, this
is still the same song.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Holy crap. How many times are they playing this one song? Well,
that'd be a Phish concert as well.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I mean they're great, they're very very good.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
They're an unbelieved but it's at the same time it's like,
good god, man, uh.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Todd too short, too long.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
I'd rather go to a cotcher that's more on the
longer side. Okay, feel like I got my money's worth it.
If I like them that much and I took the
time to go, it shouldn't bother me that much that
it's going.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Wrong, all right, Paulie, it's too short, like an hour
and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Probably it is a good question because it's too short,
like thirty minutes, that's it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I would say, what we can do the over under
and an hour fifteen or what about forty five minutes?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Three? And that's too short?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Too short?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I would say an hour fifteen or three or
three or three? Okay, we can do an hour fifteen
or hour fifteen.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Yeah, yes to the concert needs to be longer than
the time it took to get there. I think that
has to be factor it. Also, if it took me
an hour to get there and you're playing for forty minutes, like.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What, Okay, three and a half hours is a commitment?
That is I mean it really is like you're you're
putting in a half a day's work to go see
that show. Now, given what it costs to go see
Taylor Swift, you're probably gonna go. All right, let me
itemize this with a song, you know, per minute or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, Paul, I'm.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Gonna go along because then you see everything. The only
problem is if you leave at the two forty five mark,
you probably missing the best songs in the last half hour.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
I look at Taylor Swift websites all the time. By
the way, her normal concerts are three hours and fifteen minutes.
Occasionally on this tour, I've got time of every concert
they've gone up to three hours and forty five minutes
if she has special guests, you know, or some cover songs.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
If you're playing the hits, you know you're not gonna
hear a couple of the hits. If you don't stay
around for the encore. You got to roll the dice there,
like what song are they? And if you can get
the set list ahead of time, then you're going to go,
oh god, let me strategize here, do you guys?
Speaker 9 (04:43):
Ever?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know, Hooty and the Blowfish is out on tour now,
so I went to see what they did when they
were in Dallas, just to see the set list there. Now,
I'm not gonna leave early with a Hoody and the
Blowfish concert, because I'll hang with the guys afterwards and
tell them how great they were.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Part of it too, though, is if you're paying like
Taylor Swift concert tickets right now are like crazy expensive.
They're like two twenty five hundred bucks apiece or something.
It's if you're going to do that, I'm gonna need
it to be about four hours long. I'm gonna need
it to be three years worth of concerts. If I'm
(05:25):
paying one thousand, two thousand plus, If I'm paying five
hundred dollars for a ticket, I'm gonna need it to
be a good two hours and thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So it's gonna be around Is it six hundred dollars
per hour? When you're watching Taylor Swift? Like if you
itemized it, if you're watching what you paid and how
long they're going to play. I've never done that before,
but you know, come to think of it, if you're
going to go see one of these bands, or you
know an artist and they're going to be charging you,
(05:54):
or the secondary market it's gonna be charging you, then
you're gonna be like, I don't know if I got
my six hundred and fifty dollars worth first hour.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, I'm looking at a popular ticket website selling website.
This is for her concert October eighteenth, Friday, seven pm,
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, Florida. The cheapest ticket I can
find is twenty two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But that's that's each secondary market.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, it sounds like flubschlub. Oh is that ticket? I
don't know what you're referring to. It sounds like flubschlublub.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
That's the only place I go.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, that's each.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
So if you're going to take your one daughter by herself,
no friends, just you and your daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's whoever. Now that's where you can't go. Hey,
can I bring Sally and Tina and Tarrett?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No? No, it's just you and me.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, gonna cost five thousand dollars to go see her.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Just for the two of you. That's not parking. This
about a T shirt that's not.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And those T shirts where you go that T shirt's
one hundred dollars. And I'm like, I don't think I
needed Neil Young T shirt? Like I'm good. Yeah, Marv.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Do you know how bad it was when I asked
my mom for eighteen dollars MC hammer shirt? Marvin? Are
you crazy? But she did? Anyway, I got a I'm
you know, I'm going to my mom's house tonight. I'm
going to try to see if I can bring it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh, now you're gonna be able to wear it? No? No,
I was eight.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
If I was eighteen, I still couldn't fit into it.
Okayhma don't hurt him to her. H No, it's a
too legiti court see boys to man.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh okay, dude, that is he went on for.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Me about an hour thirty. I want to say, okay,
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
So it's similar to going to the movies. If you
see a ninety minute movie, maybe hour forty five, it's standard.
But some of those movies, like I don't know, it's
like Dunkirk or something, it was an easy three hour yeah,
and you're like, what's going on here? Getting a little stiff?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, but at least there's if you can move
around when you go to it uncerted.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, when I go to the theater, I'm just
sitting there like I've done that before, where you just
look at your watch. You go and it's been two
hours and ten minutes, and then you go, how long
is this movie? Then you realize, you know, it's to
forty seven.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, Toddy.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
If you're able to get tickets where there's no work
or school the next day, that certainly makes it a
lot easier.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
We don't have to keep worrying about your watch. I'm
not going to get home till one in the morning.
And I got to get up at six. Yeah, you
can go like on a Friday night, Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It doesn't always work out, yes, Mark, How long was
Billy Joel.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Just?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I think over two hours.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Kind of sounds like a perfect time, but it was,
you know, the time was just right, and he played
all the hits and you know, stayed for the encore,
stayed till the very end.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But it was I think a little over two hours.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It didn't see I don't even realize how long it was,
but it didn't feel like it was a long concert.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
But you know, it helps when they play hit like
he got hit after.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You have to be really good to be able to
play three and a half hours. If you're Taylor Swift,
you have to have a lot of hits if you're
going to play for three and a half hours. So
not many people have that opportunity to go and and
here's another one of my number one hits.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
She definitely does. She got a lot of them, yes,
mar And.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
The difference, the difference between Billy Joel and a lot
of the legendary artists is that he hasn't released new
music in thirty years, so all he has is the
hits yeah, and it's hard when you want to go
see bon Jovi or the Rolling Stones or whoever, and
they're like, hey, this is something off our all of
our latest album boo.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They're living on a prayer.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
That's where the issue comes in for those legendary groups.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, the Stones have a new album out and they're
on tour, but they still play all the hits. And
you know, I talked to somebody who just saw them
recently and they said they were great. You know, Jagger's
still running around. He's, you know, like a marathon runner
up there.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He said.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The funny part is Keith Richards. Sometimes you'll just sit
down and play his guitar. Like the fact that Keith
is still alive at eighty pretty good. I had the
under But you know when you see the Stones, they
have so many hits and then you're like.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
All right, oh, okay, that one, okay, that one, so yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
I think a long concert is kind of like a
college football game. You get there early. You want to
be there early to tailgate the longer the game. Like
college football games when they go four hours. It never
bothers me when I'm at them. I never go oh,
I got to run out of here.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But why do we look at baseball games and have
a problem with baseball games like how long they go?
But I don't know if people go, man, this football
game is taking forever. Wait, but a baseball game, you're like,
we got to get this done in less than two hours,
no matter what the end result is.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It feels like they got to speed this game.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Uh yeah, because football games every you know, thirty seconds
or so, you have ten interesting seconds and then you
wait and then wow, this seven seconds is good. Okay,
let's wait, Oh wow, that was really interesting, and then
oh wow, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
That's why baseball's and not like that. You might have
a whole forty five minutes of nothing happening.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, but that's the beauty of it. It's timeless. Sorry,
Bob Costas just got into my ear. Yes, Tom, I.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Think if you're engaged and it's compelling and you know
the words, and you're singing and dancing along, whether it's
Taylor Swift or Billy joelor whatever, that's what makes the
time go faster. You just said it didn't feel like
two two and a half hours because you obviously liked
all the songs and knew all the words and it
brought back memories.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Maybe, but nobody ever says, guy, this football game is
taken forever. They don't baseball, yes, even basketball. What did
we say about the last two minutes? Oh god, it
took a half hour. Even if it's a dramatic ending,
It took forever those last two minutes, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
And college football, you could tailgate afterwards. A lot of
people tailgate afterwards. They get a few more in. You
you kind of wrap it up that. I think that's
why nobody leaves college football. Early pro football, you'll see
some people bail if it's a blowout. College football doesn't
go that way. They don't watch you tailgate after the
game that much in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
All right, So that was the conversation prior to the
start of the show. We have things to talk about here, Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You have.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
The worst is too.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
It's like when you go see a band that's been
around a long time and they're releasing their like seventeenth album,
and you're like, oh, they're experimenting with dubstep, Like that's
not that's not what we want out of the Rolling Stones.
Don't be modern, don't whatever, what's a new This kind
of has a trap beat to it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh that's fun. Hey, everybody doing everybody's doing country now,
and we got a couple of country songs here we
like to play for you.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
We don't. You don't have to.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Don't do a song with Travis Scott. No, don't, don't
do a song with him.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No, no, we don't need to do that. What's the
poll question today?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Well, we're definitely starting with would you rather a concert
be too long or short?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Okay? That is sure going.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
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Of course, Derek White, He's gonna shoot a lot. Is
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Speaker 2 (13:09):
And then you've got Chris tops Porzingis, who is set
to join the team, and I'm curious, is this a
good thing? Like, I know, he's a great third option there.
Sometimes when a team is on a roll and all
of a sudden, they're like, hey, guys, I'm back, and
then you got the guys who stepped up and you
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(13:29):
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Speaker 3 (16:22):
Poll question Seaton, what are we going to go with?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
We're going up there, We're going we're putting up there
and going with okay, thank you very much. Would you
prefer your concert be too long or too short?
Speaker 12 (16:34):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Right now most people are saying too long.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
We did have social media. Somebody responded by saying the
segment on concerts going too long went too long, so fair.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Thank you fair. Someone also said I don't know if
this is true or not, but why not.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
We'll throw it out there, okay, that the price of
the ticket, like it was twenty two hundred dollars, doesn't
include the fulfillment fee, which usually runs somewhere between like
five to seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Wait, it's called a fulfillment fee. I believe so. Yeah,
that is crazy. Wait, who the hell can do that?
How do they come up with fulfillment fee?
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I think that's why the government is currently looking into
their business practices.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Good, I think good.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But the fulfilment fee, that's like the vague when you
lose a bet you have to pay ten percent fulfillment.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
It's an online transaction. What could you possibly is five
hundred dollars for fulfillment fee?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh my god? Yes?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Is that the same as like a service charge?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I get? I think that is crazy.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
How many different charges can you come up with?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It feels like you're getting something with a fulfilment fee, right.
If it's a service charge, it's like, well, what are
you charging me for? Hey, we're giving you a fullfilment fee.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
If you don't feel fulfilled after the concert, you can
give you some of the money back.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, hey, I'm half fulfilled all right.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It's like these are like ticket prices that you take
a loan out off of your four to oh one
k for like, all right, just get a quick fifteen
grand off of the four one k to go to
see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Holy crap, you know mild Dan and Fresno. Hi Dan,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (18:14):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (18:14):
So I just wanted to give you my quick Taylor
Swift ticket story. So I work overnights at a local hospital,
MRI technologist, and my daughter got you know, the early
fan passes to be able to get in and get
the tickets. Two days early, got everybody to school, got
everything ready to go. I've been up all night and
(18:35):
the site crashes, and so I get kicked out. I
get back on the site, everything's ready to go. It's
about ten o'clock at this time. Kicks me out again.
Couldn't figure out what's going on. Long story short, it
turned out that I had to sit there and hit
the space bar and keep the site active all the
way until six o'clock at night. Oh my god, So
(18:56):
for like eight hours straight, I just sat there pushing
the button eighting to get in, got in, got the tickets,
got everybody to the show. Then I had to be
at working out an hour later to work a whole
twinnother twelve hour ship. No, no, everybody got to the show.
That was great. Side note, the hardest thing, one of
the hardest things I've ever had to do in my life,
was to not take those tickets and sell them online
(19:18):
again for twelve hundred day to five thousand dollars a piece.
But they got to the Saturday show at so Far.
It was great. They had a wonderful time, and I'm
glad I got them there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Father the Year look at Dan, Dan and Fresno. Yes, PAULM.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
I went to one of the websites for Taylor Swift's
concert at hard Rock Stadium October eighteenth. The lowest ticket
for one single ticket was one eight hundred dollars. Okay,
I went through the process of buying it. Now I'm
at the part where they're going to charge me. The
service fee is seven hundred and twenty four dollars.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
That's a forty percent of the ticket.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So that's the fulfillment fee.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Yes, it says the service fee fulfillment fee. So the
ticket's eighteen hundred with fees twy five hundred and twenty
six bucks. Now I can hit click and do this.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It's criminal, but.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Yeah, the fees are seven hundred and there's no breakdown
of the criminal.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, tell me what I'm paying for.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
I'm checking.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
And it's crazy too, because like this is what like
not that Pearl Jam's career died, but they essentially killed
their own career because they were like, these fees are crazy,
we don't want to do that. That was in like
nineteen ninety four. They were going after Ticketmaster, weren't they. Yeah, yeah,
and they were like, these prices are crazy, these fees
are insane. We're not touring anymore. And that's kind of
what killed the whole like genre of music in some respect.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Barry and Santa Fe.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
Welcome back, Barry, Good morning Fellas, Good morning chat Row.
First of all, any Taylor Squip concert is way too long,
although I do give her credit for milking every last
penny from her friends. Secondly, Dan that the Elvis Costello
(20:55):
show is the fateful night we met. And if that
was too.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Long for you, that made it too long because I
stayed and then I met Barry and Santa Fe. Had
it been shorter than I might not have met Barry
and Santa Fe. Thank you, Barry, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're backstage after the show and walk around having a beer,
and all of a sudden, I see this guy walking
over to me and he goes, hey, Barry Santa Fe.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
My wife goes, who's that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I said, he's a listener, Barry is his name is
Barry Santa Fe. I go, no, Barry in Santa Fe.
Also had to tell my wife Shae in Irving, not
Shae and Irving. She thought that's name erving, yes, yes,
and yeah unnerving Shaye Unnerving Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah, I think sort of to Barry's point, While it
does appear that Taylor Swift is milking her friends for
fans for every cent they have, it is important to
point out that musicians don't make money making music anymore.
They only make money on touring. Yeah, so all of
the streaming services, all of that stuff, they're essentially just
stealing all of them money from artists and not paying
them anything. Now, artists are like, well, looks like we
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have to go back to touring constantly and selling T
shirts in order to make a living.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yes, just to be fair to them. Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If you look at a lot of these documentaries of
how artists were treated when they were first coming up,
you know Motown, you know some of the greatest artists
of all time, and what happened to them financially.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Fleetwood Back made rumors and we're like, all right, we're
set for life. We're never touring now. It's the exact opposite.
If somebody made rumors today would be like, well, you
better get on the road to make some money.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yes, yes, Mark, there's a documentary on naps there that's
coming out soon, produced by eminem and Lebron, So hopefully
they'll give you just a play by play on how
they don't make any money anymore.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, yes, Paul, I have a quick update on my
Taylor Swift ticket for Miami upper Level three forty nine
rote twenty one, which is there was only twenty two rows.
Note side view cannot guarantee full view of stage two thousand,
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Alrighty, nice of the have to be upfront about that,
but you're a view.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, you're going in to listen to a Taylor Swift concert,
not watch a Taylor Swift concert.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Remember our idea about if someone doesn't show up in
insurance for a ticket, they have event ticket protection, you
can get reimburse You have to pay two hundred and
fifty dollars to ensure your ticket. Now, let's say Taylor
Swift cancels that concert and postpones it for six months
later for whatever reasons and you can't make it. You
can ensure that ticket and get your money back.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Okay. Dana in Minnesota? Hi Dana, Hey d Few, what's
going on? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So Minnesota just passed a bill that they eliminated junksties,
restaurants and events.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
I don't know that it goes to the NFL and.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
NBA, but it made all sorts of those fifteen twenty
different fees you get for just being a human being,
they outlawed those and forgot to give my height and
weight six for post poop two thirty.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Thank you, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Uh David Ohio, Hi Dave, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (24:07):
It's actually Dan and uh it's five ten, one sixty
five And I just want to say that on the
fleet with some of them, set Fleet with Mac a
little bit ago. That was actually my first concert back
in ninety seven as a re union tour, and uh
it got my first contact buss from some other people
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eight to twenty piece Nugget afterwards. But as far as
great shows Radiohead, Tom Petty and Pearl Jam, I can
never see enough of. I can say there five hours,
but I've seen a lot of shows that I could
have been there a lot shorter.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
For all Right, Well, thank you, Dave, Jack and Phoenix.
Hi Jack, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 9 (24:48):
Five ten five? Hey, I just wanted to share. I
saw David Bowie in nine Inch Nails and it was
a concert by a legend that was too long. He
absolutely refused to play any of his hits because he
was going through his industrial phase.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The Rolling Stones are doing dubstep now.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, not that they are, but god, that's the
funniest I know.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
This is industrial things.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's when the art well. I saw Bob Dylan and
he only played his religious music. He played no hits.
He had a great album, Slow Train Coming, and I
did love the album, but people are yelling out like
a rolling Stone, Bob just plowed through, didn't play one hit.
So I have seen Dylan, I just haven't seen Dylan
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do like Tangled Up in Blue and Blonde on Blonde
and Highway sixty one revisited, you know, all of those
great songs. I didn't get to see him do those,
but I got to see him do his religious album.
By the way, we are a sports show. Occasionally I
mentioned Chris tom Sportszingis is probably going to be playing
tomorrow night, and we were wondering about that. Now, if
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you look at when he didn't play, what was the
Celtics record. I don't know if it's a fair apples
to apples comparison, but the Celtics were a little better
without Chris TOMPs Porzingis in there. I don't think the
talent level of the teams they were playing was particularly high.
But Derek White has kind of rolled into that third option.
(26:26):
Here's he's sort of remember when Marcus Smart he was
always taking way too many shots. And I did like
Marcus Smart, and you know, I just thought he was
a fun, pest guy to have played defense tough. But
then he got into the Steph Curry phase and I go,
Marcus Smart, as Mark Jackson would say, should not be shooting,
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but he kept shooting. And now Derek White is in
that Hey, I'm going to take some threes as well. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Doesn't every championship team need one of those guys, the
delusional confidence guys. No no, no, a Tatum move move move,
clear out, clear out.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
No, no, no, we don't need that. No, Marcus Smart
didn't work out. And you go back to when when
the Bucks signed Dame Lillard and that made Drew Holiday
expendable and the Celtics are like, uh, we'll take him sure,
And at the time we probably went, oh, Drew Holliday
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is going to the Celtics yet another team. Because I
remember one day when I said, man, Drew Holliday is
really good, and Seaton was like, yeah, I keep hearing
that he's on all these different teams. I go, he
he plays both offense and defense, and You're like, uh, okay,
and I so I think I was. I was trying
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to let the Dantz know that Drew Holliday is a
really good player. He just is a really good player
for a few teams. So it's like, oh, I got
traded again, and I go, yeah, well, okay, they brought
in day Lillard, they got Drew Holliday, and trust me,
he's a really good player. He's on the Hall of
Very Good Al Horford is Hall of Fame, Drew Holliday,
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Hall of very Good.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Yes, possible first ballot of very Good Drew Holiday. He
was traded in October and the Celtics gave up Malcolm Brogden,
Robert Williams, a twenty twenty four first round pick, and
a twenty twenty nine unprotected first round pick. And I'm
looking at the Boston reaction. It's not good, Like the
Boston pundits and the Boston writers. Yeah, they're like for
that for a third option type player.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh, I know, I know. Well, wait till you see
him in the NBA Finals. Yes, yes, see, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
It is funny that one of the main reasons the
Celtics are ending up in the finals is because Milwaukee
wanted Dame.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah. Yeah, like that. That trade was a massive part
of reason why they're where they are.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
By the way, Lebron James was talking about Kyrie Irving
on the Mind the Game podcast and he brought up
what we've brought up before, and it isn't a compliment
with what he's saying about Kyrie.
Speaker 15 (29:05):
I will call Kyrie the Wizard all the time. There
was nothing on the basketball floor that Kyrie couldn't do,
and sitting here watching it. I'm like so happy and
so proud and to watch him and continue his growth
and whatever case may be. And at the same time
I'm so mad at the same time that I am
(29:28):
not his running mate anymore. He's the most gifted player
the NBA has ever seen. He has the best gifts
I've ever seen any NBA player.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, commissioner silver online two With the tampering charge against
Lebron James, I thought that they were going to get
Kyrie in the offseason, but the price was too steep. There,
all right, is Kyrie irving as I brought up before,
sort of like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers considered the most
(29:58):
gifted player, talented player's ever played quarterback. He got one title.
Kyrie the most talented gifted player ever. He's got one
title as well. Now you got what four MVPs for
Aaron Rodgers. Kyrie I don't think has ever made first
team all the NBA. Is it is it a compliment
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to say somebody is the most gifted player in their sport, Paul,
I think.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
It's absolutely a compliment. When we Lebron is trying to
say he's trying to compliment him. I find that compliment
though I wouldn't take it that well. Not me, but
if I were a high end athlete, gifted means like
you showed up this way. It almost uh downplays the
hard work it take took to get to where you are.
Like Usain Bolt is gifted. I mean, there's there's speed,
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and then he maxed it out. But Kyrie Irving, I'm
guessing he developed his left handed right hand, he developed
his dribbling ability. He didn't just show up with gifts.
Lebron has gifts of height and size. Kyrie doesn't have those.
Like if I'm Kyrie, I don't take that as a
not a diss in any way, But hey man, it
wasn't a gift. It's not natural ability. I worked for this, completely,
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worked for this weirdly.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But it might be natural ability.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I don't believe somebody just shows up and they're like, man,
I'm really good at this.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I think some people are more inclined to be good
at sports in general, Like I'm not, and I know that,
but like some people are fast on the playground and
they max it out, But nobody gets to the NBA
without the work I don't think.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, you have to have work that you put in,
but some people get a better starter set than others do.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah. We had Jeremy Ronick in one time and just
standing around like off air, I said, when did you
know that it was different for you when you were
playing hockey? And he said, I.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Don't know, about seven or eight. It was just he said,
it was just different from me. I could already put
the puck pretty much anywhere I wanted to. Now, that
doesn't mean that he didn't have to work for it
really hard. However, he was already well aware that, wow,
when this stick is in my hand, it's different when
it's in all of these other kids' hands.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It's just different.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
And you know, Lebron says there's nothing that Kyrie can't
do on the basketball floor. I would disagree with that.
You know, he can shoot, he can get to the hoop,
he can finish, he's great ball handler. At the other
end of the floor, you're not doing anything, he says,
he can do anything on the.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
What do you mean, you said, defensively, Yeah, he'd been
worked hard.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, well, sometimes you need to work hard.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Maybe early, yeah, maybe earlier in his career.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
But he's he's definitely uh stepped up def's not.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
A lockdown defender. He's not blocking shots, He's not. I mean,
John Moran is more impressive at the defensive end with
what he can do than Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That's for different reasons, though.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Kyrie is a great offensive player, and I would say
he could do whatever he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Is he the greatest most talented player of all time?
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
This kind of weird. Did's go, yeah he is? Like,
what's the measuring stick there?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Mark, Yeah, I think Yeah, gifted is completely different than
greatest because I think Chris Weber is the most gifted
power forward I've ever seen. Gifted. I don't think he's
the greatest power forward, but as far as no one
else can do what he does, so I completely understand.
And I kind of disagree with put like it's not
like gifts like you know, is god given or however
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you want to say it. But it was like he
could just do so many things and you work at it,
and some people have it and some people don't.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, but some people have a head start. Kyrie had
a head start. Now did he develop, Yes, he's developed,
but he still had a head start.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
What do you mean as far as what.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
His talent like, He was ready to go probably sooner
than most you know, kids are that he was already,
like Wayne Gretzky, show up on the ice and was
probably so far ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 16 (34:04):
So he was gifted already. Yes, Paul, you know what
I think the gift is. I've been thinking about this.
I think the gift is work ethic at a young age.
My guess is Wayne Gretzky was out on the ice
all hours while all the other boys in Canada went home,
and the other baby had work ethic and he had
some natural abilities. But my guess is Kyrie Irving at
age nine stayed on the court way longer than everybody else.
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And one of the gifts is the ability to be
obsessive about the sport and work like crazy.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah see, And I mean this kind of goes back
a little bit to what we were talking about yesterday.
Not nepotism, but Kyrie Irving's father was a professional basketball player.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That is a head start. Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
He was being raised in as his youngest years are
being raised in a professional basketball environment.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
That's absolutely a head start. Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Marvin see and took all the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
He did, okay, all right, then, uh we'll take a break.
Let's go to break. Then got our play that coming up.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Christian mc kaffrey got a contract extension, surprise, surprise, And
I'm curious if I'm c Dee Lamb and his representative
do we have a sweet spot where we should be
able to get this deal done like today? And then
to a tongue of ioloa, I think he's going to
be looking at a Jared Golf type contract round fifty
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three million dollars. So a few football items to talk
about as well.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
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say what you said during the commercial break is we're
shooting hopes about Kyrie Irving that he.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Hits more impressive shots in a single game than Michael
Jordan did in the season.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
That is crazy to say. You don't mean that.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Michael Jordan one of his most famous shots is where
he goes up with his right hand brings it down
for absolutely no reason over to his left hand.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's essentially like looking at Bob Coosey right now.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Compared to what Kyrie Irving's oh wow, wait did this
show all of a sudden become first take or get
up or something.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
What's going on here?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You like so talented.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Mike was so talented that he made the difficult look easy.
Kyrie makes the difficult look difficult. That's the difference. Michael's
the most talented player who's ever played the game, because
he would he could dominate at either end. He could
lock you down and the other end you're not going
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to stop him. Kyrie doesn't do that. Mike is able
to get his shot whenever he wants to get a shot.
And yes, I have to factor in. Kyrie is six ' two. Okay,
but that shouldn't factor in. The most talented player that
Lebron's ever seen. Look, he played with him. Fine, I'll
let him have that. Don't believe it?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Mark?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Then who's more talented than Mike? Then Kyrie?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Mike was just flirting with three point shots against Portland
in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
What did he do?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
He had like six of them? He did even take threes.
He's like, hey, I'll just do this.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
He was just so athletically superior to everybody too.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's the talent.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
No, that's a gift.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh god, he got cut from his high school team.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I don't know if you heard that story before, but
when he was a freshman, he was cut from his
high school team.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, where's that coach? Now, that's what I'd like to say.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
He was cut from varsity guys. He still made the
JV Like, oh, he didn't make any team at all.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Oh, Mike is the most talented players ever.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
He's the greatest player ever. I get it. Yes, that's
not a for debate either.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
Yes, Michael Jordan's talents are his leaping ability, which separated
him from a lot of people, and his obsessive work
ethic that's was born in him or given him by
an adult or whoever it may be, that a lot
of other people don't have. You know, there's a lot
of six to six guys and a lot of guys
who could jump.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
It's the same thing with Tiger.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
He had ability from a you know, when he was
two years of age, but he became obsessed with being
the best golfer in the world. And you know, his
work ethic was unparalleled. So you have that, and then
you have the talent, and then you have the work ethic.
That's when you get you know, immortalized. I don't know
what we accomplished this first down.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
I'm just reading an article here about how the title
of it is scouting Kyrie, how the MAVs star is
making his mark on defense of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Okay, good, he's now making his mark. That's a news story.
He didn't make his mark on defense. You know in
the previous ten years.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
He was lying in wait for eleven years and bring
it on people.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
John in California.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Hey, guys, now, this is Johnny California. The key words
you missed from Lebron was the word wizard. He didn't
necessarily mean he's a hot, fastest runner of biggest jumper.
It was the word wizard that he kind of fools
around with a combination of skill and magic, and you go,
how did he do it? That's what Kyrie does. I
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heard John wouldn't speak once, he never talked about basketball
at all. But he was the wizard. You just knew
that he had something special. And there's players like that.
Steph Curry is the wizard of shooting, but Kyrie is
the wizard with a basketball. He'll get something done.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, but Steph Curry needs to have a good handle
to get separation to shoot his shot. He doesn't just
get these open shots, he has to create those. And
he's a far greater offensive scorer weapon than Kyrie is. Now,
Steph doesn't play defense. But like we're talking talking about
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the most gifted player. You call him a wizard. Okay,
he's a wizard with the ball, not the greatest player
of all time. Yeah, Steph doesn't play defense.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He does not. I just said that he can't be.
But Kyrie only started playing it this year. Yeah, but
he did so now he's better than.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, let me see who he's locking down coming up
Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah, Deerck White watch out.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah no, he's going to take Chris stops for Zingers.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
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Day forthcoming. We'll get into sports here coming up in
a moment. But as I always do, I start out
my morning talking about Taylor Swift and I was mentioning
to the dan Ets did a concert in Europe where
I think it was three and a half hours long.
I think it might have been in the rain three
and a half hours, and I was thinking, at what
(01:09):
point is.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
A concert too long?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I went to an Elvis Constello concert that was last
year in New York, and while I wanted to see
Elvis Constello, I got to see a little too much
of Elvis Constello. So it was over three hours and
it was a little too long.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That might have had something to do with these seats
that I was in, because they were built for somebody,
probably back in the nineteen twenties, and my wife and
I had to squeeze into the seats, and it was
a little it was a little too long, a little
too long. I've been to a Springsteen show where I
go getting up there close to eleven. We've been going
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strong for over three hours, and I got to drive back.
Would you rather have a concert too long or too short?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Too long or too short? I'll start with you.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Too short if they play all the hits?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, okay, now we have an asterisk by this, Okay,
seaton too long, too short concert.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm trying to think band by band genre.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah, some bands I might be like, no, this is
to I think too short, because there's definitely been times
like a Springsteen concert I went to I was every
single song was a hit, and I was like, damn, man,
this is three plus hours.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now, this can end anytime.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
I once went to go see this band called the
Mars Volta and they played for seemingly like two and
a half hours, but they only played about five songs.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Their songs were just that long, yes, and.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I was like, oh my god, there were ties they
were forty five minutes into and I was like, this
is still the same song.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Holy crap. How many times are they playing this one song? Well,
that'd be a Phish concert as well.
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I mean they're great, they're very very good.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
They're an unbelieved but it's at the same time it's like,
good god, man, uh.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Todd too short, too long.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
I'd rather go to a cotcher that's more on the
longer side. Okay, feel like I got my money's worth it.
If I like them that much and I took the
time to go, it shouldn't bother me that much that
it's going.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Wrong, all right, Paulie, it's too short, like an hour
and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Probably it is a good question because it's too short,
like thirty minutes, that's it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I would say, what we can do the over under
and an hour fifteen or what about forty five minutes?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Three? And that's too short?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Too short?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I would say an hour fifteen or three or
three or three? Okay, we can do an hour fifteen
or hour fifteen.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Yeah, yes to the concert needs to be longer than
the time it took to get there. I think that
has to be factor it. Also, if it took me
an hour to get there and you're playing for forty minutes, like.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What, Okay, three and a half hours is a commitment?
That is I mean it really is like you're you're
putting in a half a day's work to go see
that show. Now, given what it costs to go see
Taylor Swift, you're probably gonna go. All right, let me
itemize this with a song, you know, per minute or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, Paul, I'm.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Gonna go along because then you see everything. The only
problem is if you leave at the two forty five mark,
you probably missing the best songs in the last half hour.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
I look at Taylor Swift websites all the time. By
the way, her normal concerts are three hours and fifteen minutes.
Occasionally on this tour, I've got time of every concert
they've gone up to three hours and forty five minutes
if she has special guests, you know, or some cover songs.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
If you're playing the hits, you know you're not gonna
hear a couple of the hits. If you don't stay
around for the encore. You got to roll the dice there,
like what song are they? And if you can get
the set list ahead of time, then you're going to go,
oh god, let me strategize here, do you guys?
Speaker 9 (04:43):
Ever?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know, Hooty and the Blowfish is out on tour now,
so I went to see what they did when they
were in Dallas, just to see the set list there. Now,
I'm not gonna leave early with a Hoody and the
Blowfish concert, because I'll hang with the guys afterwards and
tell them how great they were.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Part of it too, though, is if you're paying like
Taylor Swift concert tickets right now are like crazy expensive.
They're like two twenty five hundred bucks apiece or something.
It's if you're going to do that, I'm gonna need
it to be about four hours long. I'm gonna need
it to be three years worth of concerts. If I'm
(05:25):
paying one thousand, two thousand plus, If I'm paying five
hundred dollars for a ticket, I'm gonna need it to
be a good two hours and thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So it's gonna be around Is it six hundred dollars
per hour? When you're watching Taylor Swift? Like if you
itemized it, if you're watching what you paid and how
long they're going to play. I've never done that before,
but you know, come to think of it, if you're
going to go see one of these bands, or you
know an artist and they're going to be charging you,
(05:54):
or the secondary market it's gonna be charging you, then
you're gonna be like, I don't know if I got
my six hundred and fifty dollars worth first hour.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, I'm looking at a popular ticket website selling website.
This is for her concert October eighteenth, Friday, seven pm,
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, Florida. The cheapest ticket I can
find is twenty two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But that's that's each secondary market.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, it sounds like flubschlub. Oh is that ticket? I
don't know what you're referring to. It sounds like flubschlublub.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
That's the only place I go.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, that's each.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
So if you're going to take your one daughter by herself,
no friends, just you and your daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's whoever. Now that's where you can't go. Hey,
can I bring Sally and Tina and Tarrett?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No? No, it's just you and me.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, gonna cost five thousand dollars to go see her.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Just for the two of you. That's not parking. This
about a T shirt that's not.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And those T shirts where you go that T shirt's
one hundred dollars. And I'm like, I don't think I
needed Neil Young T shirt? Like I'm good. Yeah, Marv.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Do you know how bad it was when I asked
my mom for eighteen dollars MC hammer shirt? Marvin? Are
you crazy? But she did? Anyway, I got a I'm
you know, I'm going to my mom's house tonight. I'm
going to try to see if I can bring it tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh, now you're gonna be able to wear it? No? No,
I was eight.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
If I was eighteen, I still couldn't fit into it.
Okayhma don't hurt him to her. H No, it's a
too legiti court see boys to man.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh okay, dude, that is he went on for.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Me about an hour thirty. I want to say, okay,
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
So it's similar to going to the movies. If you
see a ninety minute movie, maybe hour forty five, it's standard.
But some of those movies, like I don't know, it's
like Dunkirk or something, it was an easy three hour yeah,
and you're like, what's going on here? Getting a little stiff?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, but at least there's if you can move
around when you go to it uncerted.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, when I go to the theater, I'm just
sitting there like I've done that before, where you just
look at your watch. You go and it's been two
hours and ten minutes, and then you go, how long
is this movie? Then you realize, you know, it's to
forty seven.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, Toddy.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
If you're able to get tickets where there's no work
or school the next day, that certainly makes it a
lot easier.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
We don't have to keep worrying about your watch. I'm
not going to get home till one in the morning.
And I got to get up at six. Yeah, you
can go like on a Friday night, Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It doesn't always work out, yes, Mark, How long was
Billy Joel.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Just?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I think over two hours.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Kind of sounds like a perfect time, but it was,
you know, the time was just right, and he played
all the hits and you know, stayed for the encore,
stayed till the very end.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But it was I think a little over two hours.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It didn't see I don't even realize how long it was,
but it didn't feel like it was a long concert.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
But you know, it helps when they play hit like
he got hit after.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You have to be really good to be able to
play three and a half hours. If you're Taylor Swift,
you have to have a lot of hits if you're
going to play for three and a half hours. So
not many people have that opportunity to go and and
here's another one of my number one hits.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
She definitely does. She got a lot of them, yes,
mar And.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
The difference, the difference between Billy Joel and a lot
of the legendary artists is that he hasn't released new
music in thirty years, so all he has is the
hits yeah, and it's hard when you want to go
see bon Jovi or the Rolling Stones or whoever, and
they're like, hey, this is something off our all of
our latest album boo.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They're living on a prayer.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
That's where the issue comes in for those legendary groups.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, the Stones have a new album out and they're
on tour, but they still play all the hits. And
you know, I talked to somebody who just saw them
recently and they said they were great. You know, Jagger's
still running around. He's, you know, like a marathon runner
up there.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He said.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The funny part is Keith Richards. Sometimes you'll just sit
down and play his guitar. Like the fact that Keith
is still alive at eighty pretty good. I had the
under But you know when you see the Stones, they
have so many hits and then you're like.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
All right, oh, okay, that one, okay, that one, so yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
I think a long concert is kind of like a
college football game. You get there early. You want to
be there early to tailgate the longer the game. Like
college football games when they go four hours. It never
bothers me when I'm at them. I never go oh,
I got to run out of here.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But why do we look at baseball games and have
a problem with baseball games like how long they go?
But I don't know if people go, man, this football
game is taking forever. Wait, but a baseball game, you're like,
we got to get this done in less than two hours,
no matter what the end result is.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
It feels like they got to speed this game.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Uh yeah, because football games every you know, thirty seconds
or so, you have ten interesting seconds and then you
wait and then wow, this seven seconds is good. Okay,
let's wait, Oh wow, that was really interesting, and then
oh wow, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
That's why baseball's and not like that. You might have
a whole forty five minutes of nothing happening.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, but that's the beauty of it. It's timeless. Sorry,
Bob Costas just got into my ear. Yes, Tom, I.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Think if you're engaged and it's compelling and you know
the words, and you're singing and dancing along, whether it's
Taylor Swift or Billy joelor whatever, that's what makes the
time go faster. You just said it didn't feel like
two two and a half hours because you obviously liked
all the songs and knew all the words and it
brought back memories.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Maybe, but nobody ever says, guy, this football game is
taken forever. They don't baseball, yes, even basketball. What did
we say about the last two minutes? Oh god, it
took a half hour. Even if it's a dramatic ending,
It took forever those last two minutes, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
And college football, you could tailgate afterwards. A lot of
people tailgate afterwards. They get a few more in. You
you kind of wrap it up that. I think that's
why nobody leaves college football. Early pro football, you'll see
some people bail if it's a blowout. College football doesn't
go that way. They don't watch you tailgate after the
game that much in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
All right, So that was the conversation prior to the
start of the show. We have things to talk about here, Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
You have.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
The worst is too.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
It's like when you go see a band that's been
around a long time and they're releasing their like seventeenth album,
and you're like, oh, they're experimenting with dubstep, Like that's
not that's not what we want out of the Rolling Stones.
Don't be modern, don't whatever, what's a new This kind
of has a trap beat to it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Oh that's fun. Hey, everybody doing everybody's doing country now,
and we got a couple of country songs here we
like to play for you.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
We don't. You don't have to.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Don't do a song with Travis Scott. No, don't, don't
do a song with him.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No, no, we don't need to do that. What's the
poll question today?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Well, we're definitely starting with would you rather a concert
be too long or short?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Okay? That is sure going.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Let's see do I
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Speaker 3 (13:02):
Of course, Derek White, He's gonna shoot a lot. Is
that shy? He's not?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And then you've got Chris tops Porzingis, who is set
to join the team, and I'm curious, is this a
good thing? Like, I know, he's a great third option there.
Sometimes when a team is on a roll and all
of a sudden, they're like, hey, guys, I'm back, and
then you got the guys who stepped up and you
know his replacing him, and then you're like, oh great,
(13:29):
Chris Tops, good to have you back, says Derek White,
who's gotten a lot of shots because Christops hasn't been playing,
or Al Horford. Yeah, great to have you back there, Christaps.
All right, we'll take a break. Operator Tyler sitting by
taking your phone calls. We'll get to those. Our good
buddy Ross Tucker will join us. I told you Tyreek Hill,
(13:49):
once he saw what was happening with their contracts, was
going to ask to to go renegotiate his contract. And
that's exactly what's going on. Also to a tongue of yalloa,
if you're gonna do a double take when you see him,
if you haven't seen him in the off season, he
looks like a different person and he's gonna be paid
(14:10):
differently as well. And you can thank Jared Goff. We'll
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
The Red Star Ellie Delacruz fascinates me. He hit a
home run for the Reds they beat the Rockies. He's
the second player in over one hundred years to have
at least ten home runs in thirty stolen bases through
his team's first sixty one games. The only other player
who has done that was Ricky Henderson. That was back
(15:28):
in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 11 (15:30):
Who now stand of a day Stana Day, Stantata Day,
Stannata Day. This is the Stele of the day.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Ellie Dela Cruz he's fun.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I go back to when Eric Davis first came up
to the majors and I was like, whoa, that's something different.
He couldn't stay healthy, but when he did, like he was,
he reminded me of a Caesar Sedanio enough to remember
the Astros great outfielder. There's just certain players that you
see them. They're different and spectacular. But Ellie Dela Cruz,
(16:09):
guys are running now. They're stealing bases now. And I
always go back to that quote that A Rod gave
me when I said, why don't you steal bases anymore?
He goes, they don't pay me to steal bases anymore. Well,
they aren't paying players now, all right.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Poll question Seaton, what are we going to go with?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
We're going up there, We're going we're putting up there
and going with okay, thank you very much. Would you
prefer your concert be too long or too short?
Speaker 12 (16:34):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Right now most people are saying too long.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
We did have social media. Somebody responded by saying the
segment on concerts going too long went too long, so fair.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Thank you fair. Someone also said I don't know if
this is true or not, but why not.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
We'll throw it out there, okay, that the price of
the ticket, like it was twenty two hundred dollars, doesn't
include the fulfillment fee, which usually runs somewhere between like
five to seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Wait, it's called a fulfillment fee. I believe so. Yeah,
that is crazy. Wait, who the hell can do that?
How do they come up with fulfillment fee?
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I think that's why the government is currently looking into
their business practices.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Good, I think good.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
But the fulfilment fee, that's like the vague when you
lose a bet you have to pay ten percent fulfillment.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
It's an online transaction. What could you possibly is five
hundred dollars for fulfillment fee?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh my god? Yes?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Is that the same as like a service charge?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I get? I think that is crazy.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
How many different charges can you come up with?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It feels like you're getting something with a fulfilment fee, right.
If it's a service charge, it's like, well, what are
you charging me for? Hey, we're giving you a fullfilment fee.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
If you don't feel fulfilled after the concert, you can
give you some of the money back.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, hey, I'm half fulfilled all right.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It's like these are like ticket prices that you take
a loan out off of your four to oh one
k for like, all right, just get a quick fifteen
grand off of the four one k to go to
see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Holy crap, you know mild Dan and Fresno. Hi Dan,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (18:14):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (18:14):
So I just wanted to give you my quick Taylor
Swift ticket story. So I work overnights at a local hospital,
MRI technologist, and my daughter got you know, the early
fan passes to be able to get in and get
the tickets. Two days early, got everybody to school, got
everything ready to go. I've been up all night and
(18:35):
the site crashes, and so I get kicked out. I
get back on the site, everything's ready to go. It's
about ten o'clock at this time. Kicks me out again.
Couldn't figure out what's going on. Long story short, it
turned out that I had to sit there and hit
the space bar and keep the site active all the
way until six o'clock at night. Oh my god, So
(18:56):
for like eight hours straight, I just sat there pushing
the button eighting to get in, got in, got the tickets,
got everybody to the show. Then I had to be
at working out an hour later to work a whole
twinnother twelve hour ship. No, no, everybody got to the show.
That was great. Side note, the hardest thing, one of
the hardest things I've ever had to do in my life,
was to not take those tickets and sell them online
(19:18):
again for twelve hundred day to five thousand dollars a piece.
But they got to the Saturday show at so Far.
It was great. They had a wonderful time, and I'm
glad I got them there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Father the Year look at Dan, Dan and Fresno. Yes, PAULM.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
I went to one of the websites for Taylor Swift's
concert at hard Rock Stadium October eighteenth. The lowest ticket
for one single ticket was one eight hundred dollars. Okay,
I went through the process of buying it. Now I'm
at the part where they're going to charge me. The
service fee is seven hundred and twenty four dollars.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
That's a forty percent of the ticket.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So that's the fulfillment fee.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Yes, it says the service fee fulfillment fee. So the
ticket's eighteen hundred with fees twy five hundred and twenty
six bucks. Now I can hit click and do this.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It's criminal, but.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Yeah, the fees are seven hundred and there's no breakdown
of the criminal.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, tell me what I'm paying for.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
I'm checking.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
And it's crazy too, because like this is what like
not that Pearl Jam's career died, but they essentially killed
their own career because they were like, these fees are crazy,
we don't want to do that. That was in like
nineteen ninety four. They were going after Ticketmaster, weren't they. Yeah, yeah,
and they were like, these prices are crazy, these fees
are insane. We're not touring anymore. And that's kind of
what killed the whole like genre of music in some respect.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Barry and Santa Fe.
Speaker 12 (20:35):
Welcome back, Barry, Good morning Fellas, Good morning chat Row.
First of all, any Taylor Squip concert is way too long,
although I do give her credit for milking every last
penny from her friends. Secondly, Dan that the Elvis Costello
(20:55):
show is the fateful night we met. And if that
was too.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Long for you, that made it too long because I
stayed and then I met Barry and Santa Fe. Had
it been shorter than I might not have met Barry
and Santa Fe. Thank you, Barry, I'm back.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're backstage after the show and walk around having a beer,
and all of a sudden, I see this guy walking
over to me and he goes, hey, Barry Santa Fe.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
My wife goes, who's that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I said, he's a listener, Barry is his name is
Barry Santa Fe. I go, no, Barry in Santa Fe.
Also had to tell my wife Shae in Irving, not
Shae and Irving. She thought that's name erving, yes, yes,
and yeah unnerving Shaye Unnerving Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Yeah, I think sort of to Barry's point, While it
does appear that Taylor Swift is milking her friends for
fans for every cent they have, it is important to
point out that musicians don't make money making music anymore.
They only make money on touring. Yeah, so all of
the streaming services, all of that stuff, they're essentially just
stealing all of them money from artists and not paying
them anything. Now, artists are like, well, looks like we
(22:05):
have to go back to touring constantly and selling T
shirts in order to make a living.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yes, just to be fair to them. Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
If you look at a lot of these documentaries of
how artists were treated when they were first coming up,
you know Motown, you know some of the greatest artists
of all time, and what happened to them financially.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Fleetwood Back made rumors and we're like, all right, we're
set for life. We're never touring now. It's the exact opposite.
If somebody made rumors today would be like, well, you
better get on the road to make some money.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yes, yes, Mark, there's a documentary on naps there that's
coming out soon, produced by eminem and Lebron, So hopefully
they'll give you just a play by play on how
they don't make any money anymore.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, yes, Paul, I have a quick update on my
Taylor Swift ticket for Miami upper Level three forty nine
rote twenty one, which is there was only twenty two rows.
Note side view cannot guarantee full view of stage two thousand,
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Alrighty, nice of the have to be upfront about that,
but you're a view.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, you're going in to listen to a Taylor Swift concert,
not watch a Taylor Swift concert.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Remember our idea about if someone doesn't show up in
insurance for a ticket, they have event ticket protection, you
can get reimburse You have to pay two hundred and
fifty dollars to ensure your ticket. Now, let's say Taylor
Swift cancels that concert and postpones it for six months
later for whatever reasons and you can't make it. You
can ensure that ticket and get your money back.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Okay. Dana in Minnesota? Hi Dana, Hey d Few, what's
going on? Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So Minnesota just passed a bill that they eliminated junksties,
restaurants and events.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
I don't know that it goes to the NFL and.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
NBA, but it made all sorts of those fifteen twenty
different fees you get for just being a human being,
they outlawed those and forgot to give my height and
weight six for post poop two thirty.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Thank you, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Uh David Ohio, Hi Dave, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Hey?
Speaker 14 (24:07):
It's actually Dan and uh it's five ten, one sixty
five And I just want to say that on the
fleet with some of them, set Fleet with Mac a
little bit ago. That was actually my first concert back
in ninety seven as a re union tour, and uh
it got my first contact buss from some other people
(24:27):
eight to twenty piece Nugget afterwards. But as far as
great shows Radiohead, Tom Petty and Pearl Jam, I can
never see enough of. I can say there five hours,
but I've seen a lot of shows that I could
have been there a lot shorter.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
For all Right, Well, thank you, Dave, Jack and Phoenix.
Hi Jack, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (24:47):
Hey? Dan?
Speaker 9 (24:48):
Five ten five? Hey, I just wanted to share. I
saw David Bowie in nine Inch Nails and it was
a concert by a legend that was too long. He
absolutely refused to play any of his hits because he
was going through his industrial phase.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The Rolling Stones are doing dubstep now.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, not that they are, but god, that's the
funniest I know.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
This is industrial things.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's when the art well. I saw Bob Dylan and
he only played his religious music. He played no hits.
He had a great album, Slow Train Coming, and I
did love the album, but people are yelling out like
a rolling Stone, Bob just plowed through, didn't play one hit.
So I have seen Dylan, I just haven't seen Dylan
(25:41):
do like Tangled Up in Blue and Blonde on Blonde
and Highway sixty one revisited, you know, all of those
great songs. I didn't get to see him do those,
but I got to see him do his religious album.
By the way, we are a sports show. Occasionally I
mentioned Chris tom Sportszingis is probably going to be playing
tomorrow night, and we were wondering about that. Now, if
(26:03):
you look at when he didn't play, what was the
Celtics record. I don't know if it's a fair apples
to apples comparison, but the Celtics were a little better
without Chris TOMPs Porzingis in there. I don't think the
talent level of the teams they were playing was particularly high.
But Derek White has kind of rolled into that third option.
(26:26):
Here's he's sort of remember when Marcus Smart he was
always taking way too many shots. And I did like
Marcus Smart, and you know, I just thought he was
a fun, pest guy to have played defense tough. But
then he got into the Steph Curry phase and I go,
Marcus Smart, as Mark Jackson would say, should not be shooting,
(26:48):
but he kept shooting. And now Derek White is in
that Hey, I'm going to take some threes as well. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Doesn't every championship team need one of those guys, the
delusional confidence guys. No no, no, a Tatum move move move,
clear out, clear out.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
No, no, no, we don't need that. No, Marcus Smart
didn't work out. And you go back to when when
the Bucks signed Dame Lillard and that made Drew Holiday
expendable and the Celtics are like, uh, we'll take him sure,
And at the time we probably went, oh, Drew Holliday
(27:26):
is going to the Celtics yet another team. Because I
remember one day when I said, man, Drew Holliday is
really good, and Seaton was like, yeah, I keep hearing
that he's on all these different teams. I go, he
he plays both offense and defense, and You're like, uh, okay,
and I so I think I was. I was trying
(27:47):
to let the Dantz know that Drew Holliday is a
really good player. He just is a really good player
for a few teams. So it's like, oh, I got
traded again, and I go, yeah, well, okay, they brought
in day Lillard, they got Drew Holliday, and trust me,
he's a really good player. He's on the Hall of
Very Good Al Horford is Hall of Fame, Drew Holliday,
(28:10):
Hall of very Good.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Yes, possible first ballot of very Good Drew Holiday. He
was traded in October and the Celtics gave up Malcolm Brogden,
Robert Williams, a twenty twenty four first round pick, and
a twenty twenty nine unprotected first round pick. And I'm
looking at the Boston reaction. It's not good, Like the
Boston pundits and the Boston writers. Yeah, they're like for
that for a third option type player.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh, I know, I know. Well, wait till you see
him in the NBA Finals. Yes, yes, see, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
It is funny that one of the main reasons the
Celtics are ending up in the finals is because Milwaukee
wanted Dame.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah. Yeah, like that. That trade was a massive part
of reason why they're where they are.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
By the way, Lebron James was talking about Kyrie Irving
on the Mind the Game podcast and he brought up
what we've brought up before, and it isn't a compliment
with what he's saying about Kyrie.
Speaker 15 (29:05):
I will call Kyrie the Wizard all the time. There
was nothing on the basketball floor that Kyrie couldn't do,
and sitting here watching it. I'm like so happy and
so proud and to watch him and continue his growth
and whatever case may be. And at the same time
I'm so mad at the same time that I am
(29:28):
not his running mate anymore. He's the most gifted player
the NBA has ever seen. He has the best gifts
I've ever seen any NBA player.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, commissioner silver online two With the tampering charge against
Lebron James, I thought that they were going to get
Kyrie in the offseason, but the price was too steep. There,
all right, is Kyrie irving as I brought up before,
sort of like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers considered the most
(29:58):
gifted player, talented player's ever played quarterback. He got one title.
Kyrie the most talented gifted player ever. He's got one
title as well. Now you got what four MVPs for
Aaron Rodgers. Kyrie I don't think has ever made first
team all the NBA. Is it is it a compliment
(30:20):
to say somebody is the most gifted player in their sport, Paul,
I think.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
It's absolutely a compliment. When we Lebron is trying to
say he's trying to compliment him. I find that compliment
though I wouldn't take it that well. Not me, but
if I were a high end athlete, gifted means like
you showed up this way. It almost uh downplays the
hard work it take took to get to where you are.
Like Usain Bolt is gifted. I mean, there's there's speed,
(30:46):
and then he maxed it out. But Kyrie Irving, I'm
guessing he developed his left handed right hand, he developed
his dribbling ability. He didn't just show up with gifts.
Lebron has gifts of height and size. Kyrie doesn't have those.
Like if I'm Kyrie, I don't take that as a
not a diss in any way, But hey man, it
wasn't a gift. It's not natural ability. I worked for this, completely,
(31:08):
worked for this weirdly.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But it might be natural ability.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
I don't believe in that.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I don't believe somebody just shows up and they're like, man,
I'm really good at this.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I think some people are more inclined to be good
at sports in general, Like I'm not, and I know that,
but like some people are fast on the playground and
they max it out, But nobody gets to the NBA
without the work I don't think.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, you have to have work that you put in,
but some people get a better starter set than others do.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah. We had Jeremy Ronick in one time and just
standing around like off air, I said, when did you
know that it was different for you when you were
playing hockey? And he said, I.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Don't know, about seven or eight. It was just he said,
it was just different from me. I could already put
the puck pretty much anywhere I wanted to. Now, that
doesn't mean that he didn't have to work for it
really hard. However, he was already well aware that, wow,
when this stick is in my hand, it's different when
it's in all of these other kids' hands.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It's just different.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
And you know, Lebron says there's nothing that Kyrie can't
do on the basketball floor. I would disagree with that.
You know, he can shoot, he can get to the hoop,
he can finish, he's great ball handler. At the other
end of the floor, you're not doing anything, he says,
he can do anything on the.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
What do you mean, you said, defensively, Yeah, he'd been
worked hard.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, well, sometimes you need to work hard.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Maybe early, yeah, maybe earlier in his career.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
But he's he's definitely uh stepped up def's not.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
A lockdown defender. He's not blocking shots, He's not. I mean,
John Moran is more impressive at the defensive end with
what he can do than Kyrie.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That's for different reasons, though.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Kyrie is a great offensive player, and I would say
he could do whatever he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Is he the greatest most talented player of all time?
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
This kind of weird. Did's go, yeah he is? Like,
what's the measuring stick there?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Mark, Yeah, I think Yeah, gifted is completely different than
greatest because I think Chris Weber is the most gifted
power forward I've ever seen. Gifted. I don't think he's
the greatest power forward, but as far as no one
else can do what he does, so I completely understand.
And I kind of disagree with put like it's not
like gifts like you know, is god given or however
(33:30):
you want to say it. But it was like he
could just do so many things and you work at it,
and some people have it and some people don't.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, but some people have a head start. Kyrie had
a head start. Now did he develop, Yes, he's developed,
but he still had a head start.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
What do you mean as far as what.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
His talent like, He was ready to go probably sooner
than most you know, kids are that he was already,
like Wayne Gretzky, show up on the ice and was
probably so far ahead of everybody else.
Speaker 16 (34:04):
So he was gifted already. Yes, Paul, you know what
I think the gift is. I've been thinking about this.
I think the gift is work ethic at a young age.
My guess is Wayne Gretzky was out on the ice
all hours while all the other boys in Canada went home,
and the other baby had work ethic and he had
some natural abilities. But my guess is Kyrie Irving at
age nine stayed on the court way longer than everybody else.
(34:26):
And one of the gifts is the ability to be
obsessive about the sport and work like crazy.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah see, And I mean this kind of goes back
a little bit to what we were talking about yesterday.
Not nepotism, but Kyrie Irving's father was a professional basketball player.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
That is a head start. Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
He was being raised in as his youngest years are
being raised in a professional basketball environment.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
That's absolutely a head start. Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Marvin see and took all the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
He did, okay, all right, then, uh we'll take a break.
Let's go to break. Then got our play that coming up.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Christian mc kaffrey got a contract extension, surprise, surprise, And
I'm curious if I'm c Dee Lamb and his representative
do we have a sweet spot where we should be
able to get this deal done like today? And then
to a tongue of ioloa, I think he's going to
be looking at a Jared Golf type contract round fifty
(35:20):
three million dollars. So a few football items to talk
about as well.
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say what you said during the commercial break is we're
shooting hopes about Kyrie Irving that he.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Hits more impressive shots in a single game than Michael
Jordan did in the season.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
That is crazy to say. You don't mean that.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Michael Jordan one of his most famous shots is where
he goes up with his right hand brings it down
for absolutely no reason over to his left hand.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's essentially like looking at Bob Coosey right now.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Compared to what Kyrie Irving's oh wow, wait did this
show all of a sudden become first take or get
up or something.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
What's going on here?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You like so talented.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Mike was so talented that he made the difficult look easy.
Kyrie makes the difficult look difficult. That's the difference. Michael's
the most talented player who's ever played the game, because
he would he could dominate at either end. He could
lock you down and the other end you're not going
(37:39):
to stop him. Kyrie doesn't do that. Mike is able
to get his shot whenever he wants to get a shot.
And yes, I have to factor in. Kyrie is six ' two. Okay,
but that shouldn't factor in. The most talented player that
Lebron's ever seen. Look, he played with him. Fine, I'll
let him have that. Don't believe it?
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Mark?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Then who's more talented than Mike? Then Kyrie?
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Mike was just flirting with three point shots against Portland
in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
What did he do?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
He had like six of them? He did even take threes.
He's like, hey, I'll just do this.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
He was just so athletically superior to everybody too.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
That's the talent.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
No, that's a gift.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh god, he got cut from his high school team.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
I don't know if you heard that story before, but
when he was a freshman, he was cut from his
high school team.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, where's that coach? Now, that's what I'd like to say.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
He was cut from varsity guys. He still made the
JV Like, oh, he didn't make any team at all.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Oh, Mike is the most talented players ever.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
He's the greatest player ever. I get it. Yes, that's
not a for debate either.
Speaker 12 (38:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
Yes, Michael Jordan's talents are his leaping ability, which separated
him from a lot of people, and his obsessive work
ethic that's was born in him or given him by
an adult or whoever it may be, that a lot
of other people don't have. You know, there's a lot
of six to six guys and a lot of guys
who could jump.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
It's the same thing with Tiger.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
He had ability from a you know, when he was
two years of age, but he became obsessed with being
the best golfer in the world. And you know, his
work ethic was unparalleled. So you have that, and then
you have the talent, and then you have the work ethic.
That's when you get you know, immortalized. I don't know
what we accomplished this first down.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
I'm just reading an article here about how the title
of it is scouting Kyrie, how the MAVs star is
making his mark on defense of the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Okay, good, he's now making his mark. That's a news story.
He didn't make his mark on defense. You know in
the previous ten years.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
He was lying in wait for eleven years and bring
it on people.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
John in California.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Hey, guys, now, this is Johnny California. The key words
you missed from Lebron was the word wizard. He didn't
necessarily mean he's a hot, fastest runner of biggest jumper.
It was the word wizard that he kind of fools
around with a combination of skill and magic, and you go,
how did he do it? That's what Kyrie does. I
(40:21):
heard John wouldn't speak once, he never talked about basketball
at all. But he was the wizard. You just knew
that he had something special. And there's players like that.
Steph Curry is the wizard of shooting, but Kyrie is
the wizard with a basketball. He'll get something done.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, but Steph Curry needs to have a good handle
to get separation to shoot his shot. He doesn't just
get these open shots, he has to create those. And
he's a far greater offensive scorer weapon than Kyrie is. Now,
Steph doesn't play defense. But like we're talking talking about
(41:00):
the most gifted player. You call him a wizard. Okay,
he's a wizard with the ball, not the greatest player
of all time. Yeah, Steph doesn't play defense.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
He does not. I just said that he can't be.
But Kyrie only started playing it this year. Yeah, but
he did so now he's better than.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, let me see who he's locking down coming up
Thursday night.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah, Deerck White watch out.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah no, he's going to take Chris stops for Zingers.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
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