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June 11, 2024 41 mins

The University of Connecticut faithful let out a collective sigh of relief as Dan Hurley turns down the Los Angeles Lakers job. And Dan talks to Lakers beat reporter Dan Woike about why the deal with Hurley fell through and what the Lakers will do next, not only at their head coaching vacancy, but during the NBA Draft with Bronny James available.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
That's the Yukon Husky fan base. You're allowed to exhale
Danny Hurley or Dan Hurley is staying as Connecticut's head coach.
Come on in, stay awhile the big news yesterday. We'll
explore this from both sides here. But with Connecticut, they're
going to up the ante for Dan Hurley. And initially

(00:28):
I thought, okay, be tough to turn that down. It's
the Lakers Lebron the money. But I kept coming back
to a couple of things. He was happy at Connecticut,
his family's happy at Connecticut, his wife is happy at Connecticut,
and he's cracked the code. It feels like in college basketball.
How important is it three peat to him? I didn't know.

(00:48):
Now we're finding out it is important to him. But
he's going to get paid. I wondered if this was
a leverage play that all of a sudden it got
a little more serious. And then you go out to
Los Angeles and I said, if they don't sign him
and he comes back, I don't think he's going back
to the Lakers. And that's what happened yesterday. All Right, Well,
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Good morning watching on Peacock. Thank you for allowing us
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four hundred cities that carry the program. So the big
news is Dan Hurley turns down the Lakers. Now what
do the Lakers do? This is a big off season loss.
This is an L and it's a capital L. It's

(01:54):
in big letters like the Hollywood Sign. It would be
a letter that big with the Lakers because you paid?
But did you pay enough? Could you have paid him more?
Dan Hurley wanted security, he wanted money, but I think
in the end he was going to get both at Connecticut.
Now it's not going to be on the level of
what he was going to have with the Lakers. But

(02:15):
with the Lakers going into a tricky situation, Lebron ad
maybe you have to bring in Bronnie and you have
to learn that job. You know, the NBA, you have
to learn. You have to adapt to that. The players,
the amount of money that they make, they can say
no to you. They don't want to play tonight. There's
load management. There's a lot going on now. There's a

(02:35):
lot going on in college basketball as well. But it
feels like, as I said earlier, Dan Hurley has cracked
the code a little bit here.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Now you'd go after a couple of big names.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
He gets transfers in there, and he's also getting recruits
that may not be five star. You got some nil
money to play with here. He has a system in place. Now,
how does this sound? Dan Hurley? We reached out. He
can't join us today on the recruiting trail. If he
goes into a recruits home today and says the following,

(03:06):
I'd rather coach you than I would Lebron.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
WHOA.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, if you're going to put it into that perspective,
those words, and he can say that I chose you.
Come on in and play let's go for a three
pet I'm staying here now. I wondered about these recruits
who had already committed, and they're probably.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Going, is he is he gonna leave? Wait?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
What's going on here? And you got that balance there,
You're like, Okay, I'm gonna listen to the Lakers here,
but I want to be respectful to these kids. And
I did say that he was going to come back
and he had to meet with his kids, and just
what was that going to be like yesterday? And we
started to hear whispers. Nobody was reporting that there were

(03:50):
a lot of positives. People were going, I think he's
going to stay. I think he's going to stay. And
then I wonder what that must have been like with
the Lakers. You go into their front off and all
of a sudden, Jeanie Buss and Rob Polenka are like,
we heard did he say any news?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
What's woja saying? And then all of a sudden we
realized that he was staying. Now, all of a sudden,
you're going to have a couple other people there. Does
JJ Reddick get back in the front of the line.
Who is going to be the next Laker? Head coach,
and it's is it still a desirable job? I brought
this up a couple of times during the season, even

(04:27):
when the season ended, when they fired Darvinham, I said,
is this a desirable job? Were they cheap with Dan Hurley?
Did Dan Hurley really have any intention of going to
Los Angeles and staying there? So a lot of things
are still there and questions to be answered, And hopefully
we'll get a chance to talk to Dan Hurley when

(04:48):
he's done on his recruiting trail. But I don't blame him.
I'd be out today and I would be there. I'd
go in with a Yukon warm up jacket on and
say here I am, I'm coming here to get you.
I'm not coaching lebron On coaching you?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
All right?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Eight seven to seven three DP Show operator Tyler standing
by your phone, calls Seaton. What's poll question today?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well, we might as well start with the negatives. What
team is having the worst week? Dallas Mavericks not going well? Okay,
Edmonton Oilers not going well, the LA Lakers not going well.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
This is the Lakers, I mean, this is this is
a hit to the franchise. You got the Celtics on
the verge of surpassing the Lakers with NBA championships.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Dallas.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I didn't think they were going to win this series. Edmonton.
I didn't think they were going to win this series.
The Clippers got a new building and the Lakers got nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's a hit.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It's a hit to one of the storied franchises in
all of sports. There, Dan Hurley turned you down. If
you fire somebody, usually you fire somebody you know who
you want to hire. That's usually, you know, kind of
a common theme with you know, owners or gms, like
all right, we're going to fire that guy because we're
going to hire that guy if Dan Hurley came out

(06:18):
of nowhere or at least last week. But then Woades
said he was the top guy. So they kept this
quiet the entire time. And I'd always thought that this
was a little flirtation there, that Hurley has to be like,
you know, hey, Dad, the Lakers are interested in talking
to me.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh, okay, we should explore it.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Because he was still waiting for his contract that he
signed in twenty twenty three to be ripped up and
he got a new deal, and I thought, maybe this
is just a you guys aren't interested in giving me
what I want. The Lakers are interested in me, and
then all of a sudden, the Lakers go, wait, you're
interested in us now. I don't know if this is

(06:58):
how it played out in my mind, I'm thinking Dan
Hurley wants to stay on the East Coast, he wants
to get paid, he wants to go for a three peet.
I got this figured out, I got my system. I
love the area, my wife wants to stay here, my
parents are here, and uh what, it'd be nice if
I got my contract ripped up so it would be

(07:18):
commensurate to somebody.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Who's won back to back titles.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, and then all of a sudden, your agent may say, hey,
you know, I get ask the Lakers. They're interested. Okay,
I can't hurt anything. Maybe give us a little leverage.
And then the Lakers all of a sudden go, uh, hey,
are you interested? Yeah, I'll talk to you. Wait, he's
interested now all of a sudden. Now, all of a sudden,

(07:41):
we got a little bit more going on there. Sometimes
you're in a relationship you don't know. I don't love you,
but you love me. I guess I can love you.
How much you're going to pay me, and then all
of a sudden, I'm going you better get up there
to Monty William's numbers. You better get to thirteen million
dollars a year. You can't, you can't go all in

(08:01):
and then go no, no, we're not gonna go all in.
We're gonna we're not going into the deep end here. Okay,
I'm not giving you Steve Kerr money. I got that.
We're not gonna give you Pop money, Eric Spolster money. Okay,
where do I fit in there? Well, Monty Williams is
making thirteen million to coach the Pistons to the worst
record in basketball.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
How about we start there.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
How about you give me a little more than many Williams.
How about fourteen million dollars a year? How about you
give me the security? You give me what seven years?
One hundred million dollars?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
How's that? Then? You got me?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
You got me. Now we make the headlines. We're back.
We're going to change the system here. I'm gonna make
the Lakers better. Then all of a sudden, you're going,
you know, we were thinking, uh, I don't know, maybe
we give you a little more than ten million year.
Now I know that's a lot of money. But did
money play a role? They always say, uh, you know, no, No,

(08:58):
it wasn't about the money, and then it's about the
money in this situation, I don't think it was because
I do think Dan Hurley wanted to stay at Connecticut.
I think he was intrigued by the Lakers. I don't
think he wanted to stay. Yes, Tom, but if you
subscribe to.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
The belief, and I don't know if you do that,
everybody has a price? Is there that magic number? They
want to stay? It's comfortable with families here, but I
always feel like, you know, you're just that one extra
dollar away fro him.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Let's go, I'll go coach to the Lakers. Let's see
what's all about.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I do believe everybody has a price, but I also
think what comes along with that price. I want you
to be all in, Hey, this is what it's going
to take if you want me. If you don't, then
I'll go back to Connecticut. I don't think you can go. Man,
I need a little more. I need a little more.
That would make me a little bit nervous if I'm
the Lakers, if I'm hiring somebody, and then I realize

(09:47):
this has to be more than about money. We have
to take that off the table. That that's not a question.
We're paying you now, we want you to come on. Now,
we want your system, now, we want your guidance, now,
we want your insight.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
That's what you needed.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And if you're gonna get tripped up by the like
take money out of there.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
So I don't go.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Come on, they're gonna give me six years seventy million
dollar contract. That's eight million less than many Williams.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Mike, what are you doing? Can't do that? Take it
off the table. If you're all in, you're all in.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
If not, then you're back where you were when you
didn't pay tylu or Monty Williams when you had a
chance to pay Monty Williams years ago.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yes, that's the problem is that if you're the next guy,
you're walking in and you're like, so we're starting at
six years seventy, right, and the Lakers basically have to
say yes for the guy they didn't even want first, like, okay, yes,
we will start at six years seventy for our second choice.
This is the money we were given first choice guy.
But now second choice guy is demanding what first choice

(10:46):
guy was gonna get See.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't think they can go in with the leverage
that Hurley had. I don't think jj Reddick says, I'm
going to stay in the broadcast booth. Uh borrega, Hey,
I'm gonna go to the cabs. Take the cabs. Jump
cabs might be better.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, but how do you start that relationship? Like, hey,
six or seventy right? Well, not quiet, We're thinking more
of six years fifty. Oh oh so I'm not okay, yeah,
all right, I guess it's to Sorry the hair eurly
thing didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
It is saying you got some money. Yes, it is tough.
It is tough. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
If they had one of those l's in Hollywood, like
Laker Gold today, because that's what it is. Oh, painted
purple and gold, that's what it is. I mean, that's
a that's a loss. That's a big loss. Dog, Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Do you think Hurley looked at the contract and said, wait, wait,
I thought you guys said you were offering me a
massive deal here, seventy million for what we heard was
upwards of ninety one hundred million dollars. And he's looking
at going seventy now, Mike, you cannot scoff at seventy
million dollars. He's like, look, I'm already rich.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Here.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wonder when Lebron got the news, although he did tweet
he says, is it me? I think he had something
like that. Well, I don't know. Well, boy, all.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Right, So we'll see if we can advance this.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
From the Lakers perspective of now what is next and
how many candidates are they?

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Are?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
They opening the job search again, I'd like to have
a coach by draft night, and that's what a couple
of weeks away. I'm assuming they'll have their coach by
draft night? Yes, yes?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
How does this work?

Speaker 5 (12:32):
How does Dan Hurley let the Lakers know he's on
a conference call with Genie Bust and Rob Palinka, Like,
how exactly does he say thanks, but I'm going to
stay put. I'm just curious how that works behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Probably, just like you said, you know who's involved in
that initial call.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm assuming he's going to call, not his agent saying
he's going to turn you down. That would be Danny
Hurley saying, hey, I'm not going, but thank you, I'm honored,
and all the nice things there. Because the NBA is
going to be down the road for him. And I
said this at the time when we found out that
he was top on the priority list. I'm surprised it

(13:09):
happened this soon, because I thought that he would wait
a little while. He even said when we had him
on a couple of weeks ago, he said, you know,
I got to get more mature, you know. But you
know he's fifty one. I thought, maybe you get to
be fifty five, fifty six. You know, somewhere in that area.
You've done what you wanted to do. You left your
mark on college basketball. Now you want to take a

(13:31):
chance with the NBA. But I you know, nil and
transfer portal. He is utilizing that. He is succeeding because
of that, certainly with the transfer portal, because he's bringing
in players and you go, who's that guy, And then
all of a sudden you see him out there and
you go, oh, that guy. And he's getting players who

(13:52):
were going to the NBA going to be lottery picks.
That's what you want if you're a recruit. What's the
system you're going to coach me. I'm going to be
a better player. I got a chance to play in
the NBA and probably not in that order, but he
cracked the code. All right, we'll get phone calls coming out.
We'll settle on our pole question. So what what's the

(14:13):
pole question? The official wording their seaton.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
We're going with, uh, which team is having the worst week?
We're also going to throw up there which team is
having the best week? Which is actually the exact inverse
of the worst week? Yeah, inverse the right word, and
I think it is. I think it is.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
How many coaches do you think the Lakers have had
since Phil Jackson left?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
If you said six, you would be correct. Yeah, six.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Seven, Stand of the day, stand of the day, start
of the day, stant out to day.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
This is the start of the day.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, I mean it's you got Mike Brown.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Let's see who else do you have?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Bernie Bickerstaff, Mike dan TONI, Byron Scott, Luke Walton, Frank Vogel,
Darvin Ham all since Phil Jackson. This is like the
Yankees like you, And look, there's a lot of these
teams We've seen like Alabama had a dip and then
they got Nick Sabd. We've seen programs that go, you know,

(15:30):
Kentucky had the Billy Gillespie years where there there was
a dip.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
And you know the Lakers are in a dip right now? Yes, Marv,
do all those coaches? Does that count?

Speaker 7 (15:40):
After Phil's first time in LA, remember he took a
little hiatus also then came back.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, well this is since twenty eleven. Twenty eleven. All right,
let me take a break. We'll have more on the
Lakers here. Dan Woyke, he covers the Lakers for the
LA Times. You know, join us coming up next year.
A little bit later on, we'll talk to the great
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Speaker 2 (17:25):
So the big headline, Dan Hurley passes on the Lakers offer,
Panthers handled the Oilers. They're up two to zero and
the final more NFL teams open up mini camps. Mike
Tomlin got a contract extension as well. Eight seven seven
to three DP show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle a DP show. Dan Woyki, the Lakers beat

(17:45):
reporter for the La Times, kind enough to get up
early with us. If I told you a week ago,
this is where we would be, you would have said
what I would.

Speaker 10 (17:55):
Have said, this is where we are, Dan, Right, a
week ago, we didn't know Dan Hurley was interested job.
We didn't know the Lakers were interested in this job.
We would have sat. I would have told you that
they are doing their due diligence in sort of a
low methodical way internally, but internally everybody thinks the job
is going to be JJ Reddick. That was where we

(18:15):
were last Wednesday. Right then, obviously, you know, Adrian Rojanowski
reports about Dan Hurley on Thursday morning. I was able
to quickly get that confirmed internally, and then kind of
you're off to the races over this weekend where the
number one choice emerges. And now, I mean, I think

(18:36):
what we knew about the coaching search before you know
a week ago has been kind of shaken a little
bit to its core, and as of right now, I
don't really know where anything stands with them coming out
of this. It's say they put a lot of eggs
into this basket and have nothing to show for it except,
you know, some embarrassment.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Today and yesterday the perception hit for the Lakers. How
do you measure? How do you measure?

Speaker 8 (19:00):
Then?

Speaker 10 (19:01):
Well, I look, I think it's toofold. I think on
one hand, right like, they can say and they will
say that they did everything they could to get the
best possible coach into their building. And you know, you
shoot a shot like that. That's what you do if
you're a marque franchise, right like, you take those kinds
of swings. I think though, the analogy I keep coming

(19:24):
back to over the last day or so Dan is
like if if you're gonna tell somebody that you love them,
you want to hear it back, and you want to
be pretty sure that you're going to hear it back,
right like, And I think you know, the Lakers were
exposed in this way on this right you hear things
like on Thursday that Dan Hurley with their choice allow

(19:46):
along right the front, the front and center of their surgeon.
They get him to Los Angeles and there's going to
be this offer and and all that stuff, and you
don't you don't leave with him as your coach. What
does that say about your process? Date? What does that
say about your process in terms of the other candidates
you've boken to? What does that say about the coach
that you eventually do hire? Dan?

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Right?

Speaker 10 (20:07):
Like, I mean, now we know whoever they hire isn't
the guy that they wanted most. And that's what I mean.
I think they had to have thought and I know
people over there thought that they were going to get
down early, that they thought the offer was good enough,
that they thought the opportunity was good enough. There were
factors I think they couldn't control. They don't happen to

(20:30):
play in the Mohican Sun and you know, on the
Eastern seaboard. Like I think that's there were geographic factors
in this, right Like, this is very much an East
Coast family. I think that they don't have the opportunity
to compete for a third straight NCAA championship. They can't
offer that, right Like, So they can't offer the lure

(20:52):
of doing something John Wooden did last And then I think, honestly,
like there's just question, and Dan Hurley knows what it
like it is like as you kind of head coach.
You talk people around the league about what life is
like as the Lakers type coach, and it's a very
different story.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Is it a desirable job? I think so.

Speaker 10 (21:13):
I mean, look, right, like one, they're all desirable because
there's only so many of them. But but I think, yeah,
it's a desirable job. Look, you've got two superstars, You've
got a great place to live. You know, there's nothing
quite like being a famous Laker in Los Angeles, the
doors that opens. You know. I've had conversations you know,

(21:35):
over the years with the guy like Theadre Jordan who
experienced it for a couple of months as a Laker,
but you know, years the Clipper and how different it was, right, Like,
it's just the different thing when you're a famous Laker.
The stars come to see you, right and not the
other way around. But there are challenges. It's a challenging
time in the organization's history right now, Like there is
a I don't want to say a reckoning that seems

(21:58):
a little dramatic, but there there are a cross strops
that are coming right Like if you resigned Lebron James,
and I expect them to. He's only getting older and
the pressure to win is only going up every day
that he's in the league right and performing at a
high level. He's maybe the most win now player in
NBA history by being a forty year old All NBA player.

(22:18):
There's no time to waste right and then. But you
also know the future is coming too, but you are
kind of stuck in that. I don't want to say
a two timeline situation, but you do have to. Yeah,
you have to plan for tomorrow while maximizing today. And
ask Steve Kerr how hard that was, you know with
Golden State when they try They tried to do that
with James Wiseman and Jonathan Comingo, also maximizing Steph Curry

(22:42):
and Clay Thompson, Dremn Green. It's a really hard thing
to do in the NBA, and you're doing it in
a play for the expectation of very high Benny.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Is there any talk of the Lakers not resigning Lebron.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
I haven't heard a credible other option. To be honest,
you know they want him. They wanted what they want
to do right by him. That that is what they
do organizationally, they take care of their stars, and they
want him to his career with the Lakers, and I
haven't heard a situation. I mean, I mean the closest right,
And I don't believe he's going to go to the

(23:15):
Philadelphia seventy six ers, but would be potentially a situation
where he could still get max money and compete for
a title instantly. Maybe a situation like that, And I
would expect the Sixers and there are more to chase,
But I just don't think. I think he's happy in
last things. I really believe that. But he wants to

(23:35):
be competitive here and he wants to see the organization
operating in a good way. And I think, you know,
he tweeted something yesterday in response to somebody saying, you know,
people don't think I'm that Lebron's about winning, and he's like,
they'll never learn. Yeah, he's about winning. He is about winning,
but I think at this stage in his career he's
about things like family. He's about things like you know,

(23:56):
comfortability as well, And it's a complicated decision and that
for him, it's not as simple as go take a
minimum to go play, you know, for the Warriors or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
He's Dan Woitki, he's the Lakers beat reporter for the
LA Times. When Danny Hurley came back and there was
no agreement in principle, there was not, and I said,
he's he's not going to take the job. I just
I felt once he got back home, yeah, like this
is almost that flirtation. And I don't know if it
was a leverage play or not that Hey, I'm going

(24:27):
to get a new deal at Ukonway. I don't have
that deal yet. What are we waiting for? You know,
let's let the Lakers know I'm interested, or maybe they're interested.
Maybe I'm a little more interested. Now I'm talking. Well,
oh now I got to go out there. I'm hearing
this off. Now I'm going back. Now I'm going wait
a minute, do I really want to do this? This
is where my home is. That was the feeling that

(24:49):
I got in real time with all of this. I
just don't know. Did the Lakers give him a deal.
I guess they gave him a deal that he could
turn down. But if it's a massive deal, and Woade
said that this is going to be as this isn't
a massive deal, he should be paid more than money,
will you. I mean, if you want him, get him.
And I don't know if it's all about money with Hurley,

(25:09):
probably not, but if you're the Lakers, you can't afford
to lose him.

Speaker 10 (25:14):
Yeah, Dan, I think the offer was both like simultaneously
fair and not enough right. It can be both right,
And I think if there was a financial misc calculation,
it was sort of you know that you have to
pay a tax on sentiments, right, you have to. You're paying.
Part of what you're paying Dan Hurley for is to

(25:35):
leave a life behind that is really the only life
he's ever known. And and I think, look, I tweeted
this and my initial rection to the offer was, it's
a good offer. That's a lot of money for a
college coach when the track record of college coaches to
have that's in the NBA is very short, right the

(25:56):
lad coach who when it's there's only one who's never
won a title in Book Open, it's Larry Brown. I
think there's only been forever damn that have coached in
the finals, in the final four. If you know, if
you if you would say like you're hiring Billy Donovan today,
that's like an overwhelming success when the You know this

(26:16):
is going to sound disrespectful. I don't mean it to
be when that you know, you could also be hiring
John Bulam. You know you could also be hiring uh,
John Calipari or Rick Patino right in terms of hiring
hot College James, and that transition is just brutal. So
I think the offer was it was reasonable, right like
tylu has earned the right to make more money than

(26:37):
Dan Hurley, certainly, Steve Kirk, Greg Popovich, Eric Koster, the
Manti Williams thing is what it is, right like that
is the outlier on this one. And I think, look,
if you're an NBA owner, you're looking at Detroit's appetite
for paying money moving forwards too. I just think it
was I think you're right. I think like there this

(27:01):
was not the type of like my SoCs were blown
away offer And this was maybe a situation for some
talk blowing like like they probably needed to to godfather
him in that way, right, And that wasn't this This
was this was reasonable. I had heard some outrageous numbers
and the build up to this eight years, one hundred

(27:21):
and twenty million like stuff like stuff that stuff you
hear and you have no idea where it comes from.
And that's the other thing too about this. Dan was
like this was so insulated, this really truly and I
have to like it came out of nowhere. I'd like
to think I've been pretty plugged in on this first
to date, I haven't heard this name. I hadn't heard

(27:41):
this talk, and when it came along, it really did
ship kind of what the Lakers process was the core
for me. And now you just kind of wonder to
go back to whe we start. Do you just start
where you left off or do you have to kind
of come up with some other you know, home run
swing and find somebody else that satisfied some of the

(28:06):
excitement that Dan Hurley's name kind of calls out here
in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Oh boy, yep, that's it.

Speaker 10 (28:14):
I mean, I don't know how to spell that Dan.
I try to get it into all my stories that
exact exact for its time. It's just really hard. I
don't know how many evolves, how many ages are in there.
But I mean that's yeah, it's a Lakers coaching search.
I mean, here's the other thing this is it's not
entirely the same as where they were in twenty nineteen,
but they were at the three yard line with Tyleru,

(28:34):
you know, and didn't get that deal done. And everybody
thought their top two candidates at that time with Tyron
lew and Monning Williams. Tyron Luke took an assistant job
with the Clippers, Monti Williams went to Phoenix, and the Lakers,
I guess, stumbled into their third choice in Frank Vogel,
and then they want to tie it now. Frank Vogel
had it was out in three years. It just this

(28:56):
is this is where they're at, and it just feels
like familiar roads them.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Is Ronnie coming to the Lakers? Is that a foregone conclusion?

Speaker 10 (29:06):
I look, I don't think they're gonna take him seventeen.
If he's there at fifty five, if he is there
earlier in the second round. I've spoken to people in
the Lakers scouting department and they have tried. It's impossible,
but they've tried to separate the prospect from the gene pool.

(29:29):
But look, I mean, there are things, there are things
to really like about Ronnie James in the second round.
He's projectable, he was a Medallisall American, He's a terrific athlete.
He played it the right way. If you're picking after
twenty Dan, it's a lottery pick generally speaking. Anyways, I'm sorry,
I like a scratcher, not an actual lottery pick in
this kid. But it's like a scratch off ticket. And
if you can curry a little favor too, I think sure,

(29:54):
so they're interested. I think there's no doubt that they're
interested in Bronni James and if but if they're going
to take my hunch, it would be sometime in the
second round. It wouldn't be in seventeen.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
If you could interview anybody today, who would it be
for the Lakers or just anybody who won the Lakers jumb.

Speaker 10 (30:15):
I mean, like you know, I mean I think there
were feelers put out to a lot of people, right
Like Jay Wright is a name that I've thought about
a lot since the Lakers had their coaching jobs. But like,
Jay Wright seemingly has one of the top five lives
in America right now, and he seems so happy, and
I just don't think he's interested.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
In Wait, of all the people that you could interview,
not the Lakers interviewing Oh oh wh what.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
I wanted to I want to talk to Lebron James today,
and I would want to know today how he feels honestly,
Like if I could do the sodium pentathal, like tell me,
like tell me exactly how you feel this moment, Like no,
no sub tweets anything like that. That to me, I
want to know that. And I would also love to
know what JJ Reddick was thinking today. Those are the

(31:02):
two people that I'm most interested in kind of where
their head spaces are in the aftermath and the Dan
Hurley teck.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm still shocked ESPN hasn't had JJ Reddick on through
all of this. You got the story in house he
works for you. Did you talk to them? When's the
last time you talked to them? How do you feel
about Dan Hurley being off for the job?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You know?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Are you still interested? I mean, I you're my employee.
I have to have you come in. I have to
talk to you about this. It's like, do you know
it is?

Speaker 10 (31:38):
It's a bizarre media story too, Dan, Like there's elements
of that at play here. I think with JJ right,
the thing we kept hearing was that his focus was
on the finals, that the finals were calling. The finals
were a very big deal to JJ And if you
look at kind of the way that seat has transitioned
for ESPN, going from Jeff ban Gunn, who reportedly they

(32:01):
didn't love hearing about his flirtations with coaching, and kind
of every off season it was the same, you know,
he would be on the interview lists and stuff like that. Well,
then they replaced him with Doc Rivers and that goes
till about January until he goes and starts coaching again.
And then now the third person that's in that care
in less than a year is all of a sudden,
is a favorite for a coaching job. I think I

(32:25):
understand why they wouldn't want to highlight that to a
certain degree, but you're right, from a news standpoint, it's
like they can tell him like like hey, like you've
been on first day, Like let's sit down, like like
let's have this kind of ticket, go on NBA today,
talk to these people, Doc Dadrin ordon Narowski's sitting right
here at the table, like you know, he's right next

(32:45):
to you. But I just think there's just like the
cross pollinations and all this stuff, there's been so much
sensitivity to it. I think that's also sort of part
of the reason why we are here. You know, a
couple of weeks before the draft and the Lakers still
don't have a coach.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
H you got a great job. You know, there's to
you do too.

Speaker 10 (33:04):
I'm very fortunate.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's not like you go, man, I gotta drum up
a story here. It's like which which one do I
want to choose from? It's like top shelf liquor. Hmm,
what do I want? I mean you're not drinking, you know,
out of a keg.

Speaker 10 (33:18):
Well, I'll tell you this, Dan tops to liquor also
helps with this show, and also it has its advantages.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Thank you for getting up. Thank you Dan, My pleasure.
That's Dan Waki. He covers the Lakers for the La Times.
Take a break, Play of the day, your phone calls up.

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My Panther's up too. Well, all right, we'll get some
phone calls here. Our one poll question results seat and
if you could before we see what the audience is thinking.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
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worst week? Dallas Mavericks, Edmonton Oilers or the LA Lakers.
This might be recency, guys, but right now with six
fifty seven percent of.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
The vote, it is the Lakers, followed by the map. Yeah. Yeah,
that's a that's that's a hit perception wise. Yeah. Yeah,
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on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (36:20):
Well, dam someone really puzzles me about this Lakers story.
And this is going to sound like a strange analogy,
but if you have a teenager, you'll understand this. A
couple of months ago, my son put on a big
production to ask her girl the prom. He's surprised her
at work, made a sign, there were balloons that drives
through window and a friend taping the whole thing. And
I said to my son, what if she says no,

(36:42):
because I already know her answer. I'm not going to
publicly humiliate myself without knowing. And I'm like, how does
a seventeen year old get this concept? And the la
Lakers don't. You don't let that man step on a plane,
and you certainly don't, you know, drop the story unless
you know what the guy's answer is. That we're looking
competent today.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I agree that I can't let him go unless I
know that he truly wants the job. That you're just
going back to tidy up some things and you're going
to be the Laker's head coach. If you don't get
the answer before he leaves, you almost have to get
out in front of it and say, look, we met,
and you know you leak it to somebody, leak it
to woes.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You can go.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You know what, we're not quite sure. I get you
can't let him be the person who's holding everything. And
he was when he goes back, and I said, if
he comes home without an agreement in principle, he's not going.
Gus in la I guess.

Speaker 8 (37:43):
Oh my god, what it was twenty four hours, So
you know, Marvin happy. I'm happy for you, man.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I really am not really, but.

Speaker 8 (37:52):
I am so. Anyway, By the way, if y'all got
that frame Bogos press conference back and she does, my
being was awkward waiting for whoever the hell they hire,
which will be the biggest who cares hire in the
history of this franchise. Like no offense to whoever it is,
James Brego, jj Reddick. No one's gonna care. Literally, nobody's

(38:15):
gonna care. The only thing that I was questioning to
myself yesterday all day, other than why am I still
a Lakers fan?

Speaker 13 (38:22):
Is is is the Lakers?

Speaker 14 (38:27):
Is coaching the Lakers no longer a desirable job? Or
is coaching Lebron no longer a desirable job? You boys,
take care, have a great week.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Thank you, Gus. You can hear it in his voice. Well,
I wonder.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
You got Lebron at the end of his career, making
good money and you're coaching the Lakers, and we thought,
all right, you put it in the blender, all right,
that's going to go down smooth. And then all of
a sudden you start to look at that roster and
you go, Okay, I got Lebron for maybe two years?
Is ad who were building around? Maybe out don't want
to build around a d Maybe the kind of offense
that I want to bring in or the team that

(39:04):
I want to bring in is not going to acclimate
to those players that I have there. Now, how much
control do I have? What is Mike? Do I have
a seat at the table?

Speaker 10 (39:15):
Like?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Those are all the things that I was wondering about.
And we'll get this information eventually, the story will come out,
but you know, as it is now, there's still a
lot of questions attached to this.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Joe and Orlando, Hi, Joe, what's on your mind?

Speaker 15 (39:30):
I was in going so I was more of you
are so wrong for playing that California's son. I have
a question, when is Rob Pulinka going to be held accountable?
He has changed this organization and I can date this
back to when Kobe signed that horror into contract. When

(39:51):
is it going to be able to have When are
we going to have a front office that.

Speaker 10 (39:55):
Will make this job look like a valuable job again?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, I think it's fair question, you know, with Jeanie
Buss and Rob Polinka, absolutely, Andrew and Washington, Hi Andrew, good.

Speaker 13 (40:08):
Morning, Dan, Thennett, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, it's
pretty pretty disappointing to not see Dan Hurley in the
Lakers coach. But you know, the last twelve years, the
Lakers have only been a forty four percent winning percentage team.
So Marvin, you can still be part of the Lakers
nation and rejoice in the Yukon huskis because win or lose,

(40:28):
we celebrate without hate. So come on on to the bandwagon.
And the thing that this opens up is I think
both teams used each other. I think the Lakers use
Dan Hurley's name to make the job more relevant, and
I think Dan Hurley used the Lakers to get a
better job.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Well, I think Dan Hurley benefited a whole lot more
because the Lakers are like, hey, look who's interested, Hey
look who turned down the job. I don't think that's
equal Dan Hurley. I think used this as leverage.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
He got it.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I think he's an East Coast guy and he wanted
to stay. And you're you know, you got a good
recruiting class coming in. You figured it out, and you're
the team to beat.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I understand why he would have taken on the challenge
because knowing the Hurley family, it's all about challenges. What's
my next challenge? They never stop. You know, you want
to be great, continue to be great, sustain greatness. What's
my next challenge? I'm going to the NBA. I was
surprised that he was entertaining that at his age. But

(41:31):
he's back at Connecticut and he's on the recruiting trail
and once again, you imagine walking into a recruits home
today and saying, I'd rather coach you than Lebron James
and he could actually say that. One hour in the books,
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