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Our two on this Monday. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody.
Fritzy is off the next two days. Dylan is sitting
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in the back room. Guys, phone calls, especially on Monday.
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the bracket Challenge. Of course he is. I love that.
We'll have Adam Sandler in there, Brian Cranston from Breaking Bad,
quite a few celebrities there and you can play along
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We'll get to phone calls coming up. We'll check in
with the Minnesota Vikings. Are the Vikings interested in Aaron
Rodgers because people think that Rogers is holding up the Steelers?
The Vikings are holding up the rest of the NFL.
But there's really a lack of context here of are
the Vikings interested, And I said last week, why don't
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the Vikings just come out and say JJ McCarthy is
our quarterback unless you're interested. And they may say, well,
we don't need to do that. Why should we do that?
They're right, But if you're all in on JJ McCart
maybe they've told him privately, Hey, we're not commenting on
Aaron Rodgers. You're our guy. Let them speculate all they want.
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You know, we'll hold up the Giants, We'll hold up
the Steelers here. We'll check in with the Vikings to
find out is there interest there at all, because I
don't know if I've the Steelers and the Giants already
have reportedly have contracts in place and offer for Aaron Rodgers.
But then you throw in the caveat of you know,
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he could retire. Aaron Rodgers is holding everybody holding me
hostage because I do have to cover it, because it
is a big story if he goes to the Vikings,
if he goes to the Steelers, not as much if
he goes to the Giants, but still he's a first
ballot Hall of Famer. You have to cover this. But
it feels like this is and I've talked about this
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numerous times. There's wishful reporting. It feels like the NFL
community wants to keep this alive, that Aaron Rodgers may
go to the Vikings. The Brett fav comparison, Green Bay
the Jets and then the Vikings. Feels like it's wishful reporting.
But we'll see if we can get some answers here
coming up. How are your brackets? By the way, when
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do we have to officially fill out our brackets? Has
to be ready to go at the end of the
day Wednesday. Historically that's what we've done, Okay, but not
Thursday morning.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I believe Wednesday the nineteenth Okay, first round games are Tuesday.
Excuse me, first round games are Thursday at noon.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yes, yeah, all right, so the end of the day
on Wednesday, I might be able to do a Thursday morning. No,
because I have to get everybody. Oh boy, you know
some of these Hollywood types, they don't want to be
told what to do, and then you have to go
through a spokesperson and then go through their agents.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And yes, Martin, I was told in it back Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Wednesday at the at the close of business, Cob, Yes, Cob,
I'm gonna say by the time the newsletter comes out,
it's six easterns.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So eod also working end of day yep.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Eo d okay, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
One of my favorite things about our celebrity bracket contest.
Todd pulls some pretty random celebrities every year, and he
always picks a new.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Crush that he has of an actress.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Or entertainer or a newsperson.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yes, this year he put on big time actress Jennifer Lawrence,
who's never been on this show. Whereas any connection to
the Dan Patrick Show or college basket I think it
could be fun.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, they're usually swimsuit models, local weather women. Actually Judd,
but she was a big Kentucky basketball fan. There was
at least a basketball hook to her. But Todd, any
chance that he somehow can talk to somebody on the
phone and he I give him credit. I never had
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that confidence growing up ever, and Todd has too much
confidence when it comes to those things he has. He
has no fear.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's a fear shame.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
How about awareness? Has no awareness? Awareness? Lester Holt is
on the list here, YEA, let's go at yes, right, Lester?
Of course. But I said to Todd you decide who
you want, go after whoever you want. And he just
loves this. But Todd's out for the next couple of days.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Yes, Dylan, I was gonna say, I think it's just
too easy for Todd to get in touch with people.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He has like his rolodex of everyone's found out. Well,
he's very determined to Like we got Michael Douglas a
couple of years ago and back to back years and
I went, be Michael Douglas, huh, and Todd goes, yeah, yep, yep,
he's going to be in it, and I go, okay,
of course, Michael Douglas. When we were having Michael Douglas
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on the show in studio a few years ago and
we were told he doesn't follow sports, don't ask him
sports questions. A PR person says that, and I go, wait,
I'm asking him some sports questions. And it turned out
he was a great guest. You know, Ryan Reynolds, he
doesn't really know sports, but then you start talking to him.
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He was just a great interview. Billy Bob, he knows
a little baseball. I'm like, if they're coming on, we're
going to have a conversation. And they were all great
because they want to be great. But Alex Ovechkin, the
fact that he is going to fill out a bracket
is pretty cool. Pull question seating from our one, what
are we going to go with an hour two?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We got two of them up there for our one. Okay,
who would you rather see in the tournament? Your options
being West Virginia, Indiana, Boise State. You see Irvine, Ohio State,
or North Carolina right now? Gosh, from almost almost a tie,
West Virginia, slightly ahead of Indiana, slightly ahead of Boise State,
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just slightly ahead of North Carolina. Nobody wants to see
Ohio State. Nobody wants to see uc Airvine.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Okay, it's close though, all right. North Carolina fourth in
that eight seven to seven three DP shows we always
do every Monday, best and worst of the weekend operators
sitting by taking your phone calls. The Bengals have built
their team from the outside in, so you have wide
receivers and that's not the normal way you do this.
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Jamar Chase is great. T Higgins wonderful as well. You're
paying nearly seventy million dollars a year for two wideouts.
It's a model that's really tough. To sustain the offense
wasn't the issue last year. Joe Burrow, coming off wrist surgery,
needed protection more than ever. And I think this was
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a Joe, We're going to keep you happy. We're going
to bring back both of these guys. I wouldn't have
done that. I would keep Jamar Chase. But you know,
you're in a division that has TJ. Watt and Miles Garrett.
So there are teams that have good, impactful defensive players.
But you know, the Bengals have firepower. They can win.
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You know, they can win in dramatic fashion and they
can lose in dramatic fashion because that defense. And I
don't know if they bring back Trade Hendrickson, He's thirty
years of age, led the NFL and sacks back to me,
seems to be the big head scratcher there. And I
liken them to the Miami Dolphins that you know, you
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have a quarterback, you paid a lot too, and you
got two wide receivers that you've built around, you know,
Wadowin and Tyreek Hill. That's not a blueprint for success.
Can you be the Philadelphia Eagles? No, not anytime soon.
They built from the inside out. They built offensive and
defensive line. If you look at great teams, you know, sustainability,
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You've got to have a great offensive and defensive line,
or at least good offensive and defensive line. You can't
be twenty seventh in defense, third in offense and make
that work. It just you know, Kansas City, they were
an offensive minded team, then they became a defensive minded team,
and then they ended up winning championships being a defensive
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minded team. Chris Jones, and they ran the football Patrick
Mahomes not the guy throwing fifty touchdown houses. But they adapted,
they had to change who their their identity was. The Bengals,
they're going to be fun to watch. This just felt
like we don't want Joe Burrow to want to to
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one out. But they did go to a super Bowl.
But they went to a super Bowl and at the
time had a very good defense, respectable defense to go
along with that offense. But you know, the salary camp
is going to go up. Bengals signed these guys. Now,
what do you do? What can you do? Pittsburgh's going
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to be good, Baltimore, you know, is going to be
very good. Cleveland they might be competitive, They're not going
to make the playoffs. But the AFC, I mean, it's
that there's a lot of good teams there. But I
think that that surprised me that they signed, well, they
were going to sign Jamar Chase, but they didn't have
to announce that they were going to make him the
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highest paid player in the game non quarterback. And you
don't have any wiggle room if you say that. It's
not like you go, yeah, we were just kidding. You know,
we won him the fifth highest non paid No, you
made him the highest paid non quarterback in the game.
Could have done this a while ago, and t Higgins
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could have done that a while ago as well. Yes, Booney,
going back.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
To twenty twenty one, the Bengals, the year they made
the Super Bowl, they had a seventh ranked offense and
seventeenth ranked defense, which is not bad. I was trying
to comp them to remember the Rams with Kurt Warner
back in the day and Tory Holt and Bruce and
I just assumed they were all offense. For three years
in a row, the Rams had the number one ranked
offense in the NFL for two of those years. They
had a top ten defense both of those years they
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made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, you have to have something in the upper teams.
If you're gonna have a really good offense, you got
to at least have that defense that can stop somebody
at some point in the playoffs. The regular season is different.
Teams are built for the regular season. Team are built
for the playoffs. Teams are built to win in all
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the elements. We can win on the road, we can win.
If it's going south, we can win. If we're going north.
We can win with our bad you know, with our
B game on offense. But you've got to have your
defense there that's able to be respected, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
And sometimes for teams that are even offensively minded, you
at least need one big play from the defense. Almost
like you said with the ninety nine Rams, they won
a Super Bowl because of a great defensive play.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, so that's all you need.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I mean there are teams that are fun to watch,
but I don't know if we take them seriously. Like
I like watching the Dolphins. I don't think they're threatening.
I think they're fun to watch. There's just certain teams
where you go, yeah, they're fun, but it's just if
you want to win a championship. I mean, now the
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pressure is really on Joe Burrow when you think about it,
we got your receivers now. I mean, he did make
a Super Bowl, but I don't think there's any other
quarterback who has two receivers as good as those two.
Can you think of somebody else who's two receivers are
as good as now? Jordan Addison's good. I don't think
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he's better than t Higgins in Minnesota. Yeah, Pauling, it's
really not that close. I'm looking at some lists and
there's not two A receivers with a person you could
say Jalen Hurts has two very good receivers. I don't
know if we could shoehorn it to that level. And
people will bring up, well, the Eagles have wide receivers.
They do, but they don't use their wide receiver. They
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don't throw the ball. I mean, it's surprising if they
throw it more than twenty times, but they don't have to.
They have a really good defensive line, a really good
offensive line, and then you throw in Saquon Barkley. They're
not asking Jalen Hurts to win games. The Bengals are
going to say to Joe Burrow, Joe, we're spending a
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lot of money here, Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Last year, the Philadelphia Eagles threw the ball the least
amount of times of any NFL team for four hundred
and forty eight attempts.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, yes, Mark.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
What about the Rams? Where do you put Puokah in
DeVante Adams.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Not as good as t Higgins and Jamar Chase because
I think I think those two guys are better than
the Rams too. I think Jamar Chase is better than
Puka and this is you know, this isn't Adams five
years ago. T Higgins is really good. He's really good,
So I would say that, I don't know if there's
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anybody else, I mean Wada and Hill, but then I'd
rather have Joe Burrow throwing to my receivers than you know,
Tua throwing to those two receivers. And who knows how
long Tyreek Hill is going to stay in Miami. I
still think you'll end up with Kansas City for some
of you end up back there all right. Eight seven
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to seven three DP show email dress DP at Danpatrick
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the screen. Is that right, greg Olien?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
O l e A.
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N Oh? Where is Olian?
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Right next to Saint Bonaventure University?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh? Okay, all right, well, welcome to the program.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
All right, six three two fifty. I have a I
have a question for Seaton. Now I know he's a
West Virginia alumni, but would he rather be a Notre
Dame leprechaun or a West Virginia Mountaineer?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Ooh dang, I got serious, Satan boy.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's a hell of a question. I'm probably gonna have
to go with the Notre Dame LEPrecon though. Yeah, you know,
heritage there for me personally, so I would go with that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Would you be able to grow the beard that you're
supposed to have with the life that great? Not great?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I'll tell you that that might be when it comes
down to like the pros and cons, I might get
cut because of my horrible beard growing ability.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
But then the mountaineer, Yeah no either. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
If I could be the Seaton Hall pirate in the
like full stuffed head, I could do that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well I could do that real well, you know what
we should see if you could be the seat in
the hall mascot for a game? Would you would you
be the seat and hall mascot for a basketball game?
Oh yeah, okay, hell yeah, as.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Long as I don't have to like, you know, sometimes
all of a sudden, the mascot they're like, you know,
it's a time out and outcome the trampoline. It's like
doing a flip and landing his head in the basket.
I'm not doing any of that.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Yes, mart Wait, dp I went in. Can I be
Jonathan Husky and he could be whatever the pirate is?
Would you be the Husky seat in hall against Yukon?
Would you be the Husky without come on?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Okay, of course, all right, PAULI can we get the
iteam to see if these fine universities would be willing
to let us put our guys into their mascot Calls
are already being made so by somebody I don't know
who will and then you guys have to fight each
other and then wrestle, and then it becomes a thing
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half court. Yeah yeah, easily, yeah, easily. I mean we
got to have this go viral. You know, it'll be
on Sports Center Top ten Plays. It'll be the two
mascots fighting each other. All right, let me take a break.
Are the Vikings actually interested in Aaron Rodgers? I don't know.
We'll find out next Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2 (17:48):
More phone calls coming up. By the way, the SEC
with fourteen teams in the tournament, that's most in tournament history.
The previous mark was set by the Big East with
eleven in twenty eleven. You know, you start to look
at these records now. Once again, this is from the
outside looking in that Texas is nineteen and fifteen, tied
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for the most losses by an at large team in
NCAA tournament history. I know you're playing against the great schedule.
Texas and Oklahoma were six and twelve in Big in
SEC conference play, the worst conference records to ever make
the tournament.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
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Brought to you by Panini America the official trading cards
of The Dan Patrick Show. But once again, that tells
you just how strong the sec was that you were
just trying to survive, and the fact that fourteen teams
made it that is surpassing the previous high by three.
Jeremy Fowler, the Mothership senior national NFL writer, joining us
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on the program. So let me start with the Bengals
last night. Jeremy, your reaction to the Bengals signing those
guys and what that means for the rest of this
team on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 11 (19:18):
Yeah, Dan, So this had been trending this way because
Friday night there was some momentum that the Bengals were
going to be able to reach a deal with both
Jamar Chase and t Higgins, who have the same agent.
So this became a bit of a package deal a
couple months ago when Higgins switched agencies, and so, you know,
it was interesting. The Bengals really a couple months ago
were telling me that, hey, we're gonna try to sign
all three of these guys, Chase, Higgins, and Trey Hendrickson.
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So they've somehow pulled off two of the three, even
though they cost themselves millions of dollars waiting on Jamar Chase.
If they would have signed him maybe eight months ago
or even six months ago, the price probably would have
been twenty million dollars less. But he put together this
triple crown season, so they've cost themselves a lot. Now
they have Burrow, Chase, higgin On really well over one
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hundred million dollars per year and just cash they're going
to have to pay these guys, which makes it infinitely
harder to get Trey Hendrickson done. Even though they're not
over the eager to trade him, they really haven't engaged
a lot in teams that have interest, and so they're
trying to get this done too. I don't know how
they're gonna pull it off, especially with a team that
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is not really known for this spending at this kind
of clip, but they are determined to just around Joe
Burrow what they can. And meanwhile, their defense has like
minimal parts because they have to somehow draft and develop
some guys on the cheap.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
But I'm just trying to understand these owners are smart
enough to make a billion or two to be able
to buy these teams. I just don't understand why you don't.
If you know you're going to keep Jamar Chase, then
sign sign him when you can. You know the Cowboys
do this. There's certain teams that you just go, why
are they waiting? Now? Maybe there's some math involved in this,
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and I'm not smart enough to understand it, but if
you know you're them, then what are you waiting for?
Speaker 11 (21:04):
Yeah, that's a valid argument. You're seeing it right now.
I mean just an hour ago, Derek Stingley, junior top
cornerback for the Texans, signs for three years ninety million dollars,
which is sticker shock for that position. But he's only
three years into a first round pick deal, so they
already had him for two years of contractual control.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You do it.
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Now to be able to spread that money out over
five years instead of like four, so that helps them
to do it early. Buffalo is known for that, Like
they've been really aggressive with all their veteran players this
offseason to try to get it done. Whatever the price
is now, it's only going to go up, so I
think teams are more trying to inherit that logic. The
Philadelphia Eagles have mastered that. They're really aggressive. But look
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some teams they either don't want to pay it, or
in some cases, they feel like what the agent and
the player are trying to get is sort of untenable
or something they're not comfortable with. I think that happens
a lot. And look, Dallas, I don't know they'll ever
say this, but the fact that they have waited on
some of these it's good for entertainment, keep them in
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the news. We talk about Dallas every day, like Dak
Prescott and Ceedee Lamb. There has to be a cost, well,
there has to be a benefit for them associated with
waiting six months till late August early September, even though
I think it was two to tango type situation. That
wasn't all on the team in that case. But it's
good for business, and Dallas knows that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I remember when Dan Rolovsky was on the show and
he said, you know, I don't think Jerry Jones really
cares about winning as much as keeping his name his
team in the news. Like do you It's hard to
fathom that for a guy who seems desperate to win
one more Super Bowl, But do you think that's first
and foremost, that's the game plan? Is We love when
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you talk about the Cowboys. It's good for business.
Speaker 11 (22:49):
I think it's both. Both can be true. You can
handle all that and still try to win. I was
looking at my list because before free agency I did
predict that Dallas would maybe be a little more aggressive
than they were last year. That people thought, like there's
assumption that they're really cheap and all this stuff, you know,
But they signed like up to seven starters last week,
not a huge money, more role players, but like they
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filled voids of what could be seven of their twenty
two starters. Like that's pretty I wouldn't call it aggressive,
but that's like, you know, AMDA shopping, So that's something
I mean, it's they're not just out here trying to
put on a bad product. Like they draft pretty well
and they don't want to overpay for guys, you know.
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It's it's one of those things where they have pay
their stars, like they paid Dak Prescott, they paid CD Lamb.
They do have a penchant for doing that. They just
do it uncomfortably and sort of wait. But you know,
Micah Parsons will get paid, like unless something goes really
haywire over the next four months, he will be paid
to be a Dallas cowboy and he'll be paid handsomely.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did the Seahawks have a good week, good couple of
weeks here I'm trying to gauge. Yeah, I mean, what
do you think.
Speaker 11 (24:02):
If you feel like Sam Darnald is comparable or like
maybe eighty percent of the player Gino Smith is, then yes,
they had a really good week. Dk Metckkev didn't want
to be there. Gino Smith didn't want to be there,
based mostly on the contract. I mean, they were whispers
last year of him being really frustrated that they wouldn't
redo his deal. And I just think Seattle they showed
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it with Russell Wilson too, like they just don't feel
like paying quarterbacks these crazy numbers. Like they're taking a
stand a little bit and saying like we're just not
going to do that. They were always hesitant to do
it with Russell Wilson. It got ugly. It got ugly
with Gino Smith, like they just they want to build
the roster different ways. You know you're going to see
the forty nine ers. They've scaled back a bunch of
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salaries in part because they have to pay Rock Purty
a massive number. Seattle's saying no and I kind of
respect that Minnesota is saying no. They said no to
Kirk Cousins last year, So there are different ways to
build a roster. I think because of that. Like, really
with Sam Darnold, it's you're getting him for probably ten
million dollars a year less and the Raiders are going
to have to pay, you know, Smith, and you got
a third round pick for flipping him in a trade.
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If you like Sam Darnold lot, that's good value. Like
they had a good week. You know Cooper Cup he's
thirty one, some injuries, but like he can still play.
You know, Dk Metcalf. You never want to trade a
guy that talent, but they get a Sagrad round pick
for me. He didn't want to be there and they
didn't want to pay him. Like so if you're Seattle
and you say, okay, we don't want to allocate these
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massive resources to these players. They did about the best
they could. But now they have question marks with a
team that already had them.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's sort of the issue. Help me understand what the
Vikings are doing. And I don't know if they need
to say if they've gotten to that point, we're not
interested in Aaron Rodgers like they could do that and
you know, put an end to this. Yeah, but they haven't.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Out the fire.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
You're right, and it's it's curious, and I'm trying to
find out what that means. The people I've talked to
with the organization have been pretty consistent with their message
with me. It's that Aaron Rodgers is possible but unlikely.
That's sort of the messaging that I've gotten. So that's
what I'm taking. So I'm leaving room for a wild card,
something crazy to happen with Rogers. I don't expect it.
(26:11):
I think they're ready to roll with JJ McCarthy. I
think it's very possible. They're waiting on some of these
dominoes to fall and figure out how much money they
need to spend on a good backup so that it
doesn't mess up their comp pick formula because they want
future draft picks. You know, if you spend a certain
amount of free agency without losing enough players and that
balance is off, you don't get as many draft picks.
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So that's a consideration for them, so that they're trying
to play the long game a little bit in the
smart game and not overreact here because they spend a
lot of money in other positions last week, but all
their moves, especially with like two big offensive line signings, says,
we're all in on JJ McCarthy and his development for
what they've told me, like he has already proven he
is going to be their franchise guy. It just depends
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on whether it happens today, four months from today, twelve
months from today. But they're convinced that, and so they're
just only willing to go so far. I'd be surprised
if Rogers is there. I still think he'll be, you know,
if I had to bet right now at Pittsburgh Steeler. Meanwhile,
the Giants are just sort of like scouring the earth
for quarterback help, Like they're still having Jamis Winston come
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in for a visit, Joe Flacco and Russell Wilson was
there last week, Like they're keeping all their options open
with the hopes that they can still get Rogers.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Let's Pittsburgh's plan be.
Speaker 11 (27:26):
That's a great question. So, like, look that last week
or a week and a half ago, they put together
an offer for Justin Fields that I was told was
very competitive with what the Jets offered him, which was
two years, forty million, with thirty million guaranteed. Something went
off where he chose the Jets, and he must have
felt the love more from the Jets than he did
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the Steelers, who essentially benched him last year for Russell Wilson.
So he gets a fresh start. I do believe they
were all in on fields. I don't know if they
had fields ahead of Rogers, but they were willing to
do fields like both sides at one point where ohto it.
It didn't work, and so now you know. I just
checked with the Steelers. They don't have any updates. They're
waiting on the situation. They're not bringing any other quarterbacks
in for visits that I'm aware of, so they're not
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playing the Giants game. They're waiting on Rogers. They have
Mason Rudolph as a backup. Well, they signed him just
sort of his insurance last year two years, eight million
dollars because he started games there before. Like if they
at least know if the bottom falls out, they have
him and can draft somebody, I think that would probably
be the play. At this point. They know Russell Wilson. Well,
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I don't sense a lot of momentum with Pittsburgh and
Russell Wilson at this point, and plus you're going back
to what your third option. Now, Hey, you started games
us last year, but now you're at number three. Let's
make this work. It just doesn't seem like a even marriage.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Damn. And then the Giants have to wait for everybody, right, yeah, yeah,
the Giants.
Speaker 11 (28:54):
You know, I do know that Russell Wilson has looked
at the Giants as a viable option for a while now,
even da back to the Super Bowl or around the
end of the season, so he must have seen some
of those dominoes coming. So I do think that will
eventually be the play if the money's right. You know,
I think he still accept himself as a valuable starter
and that cost money. I'm curious how far teams are
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willing to go just because of the musical chairs. He's
played the last three years with different organizations at quarterback,
so you know, he's got a cap where you have
to work it out financially, and these teams will probably
probably be looking more for like a lower end bridge deal,
And I don't know if he's going to accept that
at this stage, given all that he's done and all
the Pro Bowls that he's made and the Super Bowl pedigree,
so that complicates things a little bit. But my sense is,
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you know, if, certainly, if Rogers goes to Pittsburgh, Russell
Wilson slides right into that giant spot unless things get crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But can you see the Giants taking Shador Sanders? Could
you see the Giants actually try I don't know if
Tennessee's going to actually take cam Ward. They sound like
they are, but I don't believe anything until it happens.
But can you see the Giants being a restive with
either one of these quarterbacks?
Speaker 11 (30:03):
Yes, and even coming even before the Aaron Rodgers talk
when they were going for Matthew Stafford, like they spend
a month on trying to get Matthew Stafford and put
together big financial packages and they were sort of left
at the altar. But the sense coming out of the
combine was if they strike out on Stafford, they're going
to go draft. They're going to go heavy there with
that third pick, maybe try to trade up. I still
think that's a possibility if you get Rogers or even
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Wilson to a lesser extent like that at least frees
you up to not have to do that. If you
don't want to give up too much, but some of
that was predicated on Tennessee wanting to move back. It
does seem like now again, a lot can happen with
the draft. I won't make sweeping determinations, but from what
I've gathered, they seem pretty comfortable with cam Ward, like
there's some momentum there with other teams I've talked to
league wide that they feel like they're just going to
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sit there and take Ward. I know the interviews of
the Ward have gone well. They feel comfortable with like
the mistakes he has made on the field, they feel
like he's done a good job of explaining those and
can be coached and correct them. And he's got the
obvious upside on top of that. So if you equal
all that out, you know, you send a little momentum
for the Titans to sit put. That could complicate things
for the Giants. If they're comfortable with Chador at three
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or even moving up to two, is that too rich
for them? I think they're weighing all those things. But
in the short term, they've got to figure this out
and at least get a solution bird in hand with
a veteran free agent.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
But can you see the Browns taking Shador Sanders.
Speaker 11 (31:26):
So the Browns have been probably the most unpredictable in
all this, Like they don't have a lot of money
to spend. I do think Cousins Kirk Cousins could be
in play for them because of the familiarity with Kevin Stefanski,
but there's not.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Atlanta really is.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Just they don't want to move them, and then if
they do move them, they're gonna want somebody to pay
a good amount of that offset money with the thirty
seven million dollars they owe them. So that complicates things
for the Browns because they're Panda Shaun Watson. They're looking
at guys like Carson Wentz too as sort of contingency plans.
So they've been all over the map really. You know,
they acquired Kenny Pickett last week, so they've been tough
to figure out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I do know that they like.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
Shador to what extent if they're willing to pick them
two overall, I cannot say. I do know there's some
love there for Shador Sanders and sort of his computer
brain to be able to, you know, feel out the
game mentally, Like they have some respect for what shoudor
can do in that area, maybe more than some teams.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Great stuff, Jeremy, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
Yeah, thanks again, Dan, appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Jeremy Fallon, ESPN senior national NFL writer. I had a
source tell me NFL scout who says, if I'm a GM,
what I look at with Shador Sanders is something I
would be attracted to. He's not afraid of the spotlight.
He's been in the spotlight. He was a really good
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quarterback for two different schools, made them both competitive. Coloradoo
had won one game before that. He gets there. Does
he hold on the ball a little too long? Yes?
Does he take too many sacks? Yes? I mean there's
there's negatives with all these guys, but he brought up
something that I hadn't heard before, and that is he
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goes to the spotlight. He's not afraid of the spotlight,
and at that position, especially in New York, those are
positives to me. You can say he's arrogant or whatever.
I don't know what that team was that said, or
the coach said that maybe he didn't want to go there.
Maybe it was Cleveland. I don't know. Joe Burrow, if
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you're around Joe Burrow. He is cocky at LSU. He
was cocky now as he backed it up absolutely Shador
Sanders is not Joe Burrow. But I think the and
I've called it a smear campaign. I don't know where
it came from. I don't know how long it lasts,
but I can only tell you what I've gleaned from
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a conversation with a source whose job is assessing talent
and said that would not scare me in the least.
I want a quarterback who's not afraid. You've got to
answer questions. You've got to be a leader. Don't be
afraid and should or Sanders certainly doesn't seem afraid of
the spotlight. Well, take a break. We will give you
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our best and worst of the weekend right after this.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
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Speaker 2 (34:25):
We will check in with the Pittsburgh Steelers coming up
next hour. Whatever happened to the artist formerly known as
the Phoenix Suns when they were a thing or the
potential to be a thing. I'm watching them play the Lakers.
They're non threatening they're thirty one and thirty seven and
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they're not even interesting, which is amazing to have Booker
and Durant on that team. I never would have brought
in Bradley Beal, as I've said, if Bradley Beal was
shooting hoops out here in the man Cave, I might
go out there and say, but I mean, no offense.
You're not gonna go see Bradley Beal. Nothing exciting there.
(35:07):
Gonna have a good career, a financially great career. But
Durans not could be there next year. Like Devin, Booker
was one of those great breakout stars, didn't even start
at Kentucky and then he becomes one of the great scores.
You know what, it's one of those damn Kardashians that
brought him down. I think he dated Kendall. I think whoah, yeah,
(35:30):
not the Kardashian curse. Yes, Now, Tristan Thompson wasn't good
enough to be affected by the Kardashian curse, right, I think.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
He actually caused them more problems.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You know, Kanye, did Kim bring Kanye down? Or did
Kanye bring Kanye down?
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I think it made a Kanye thing by himself.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, he's pretty good at that. He is pretty good
at that.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah. The partners are relevant when he comes to Kanye.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, yeah, they're interchangeable. Yeah, what are you willing to
not wear in public?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I love you, let's get married. Yeah. But the Suns
I'm watching and it was like they were just the
other team. And Paulie always goes, why do you do
this to yourself? I don't know. I just I felt like,
you know what, let me check in on this. How's
d book doing? As the kids like to say. Oh yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
When I text you and I say what's you doing?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
And you say watching the Raptors, I want to call
for an intervention.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I'm considering. I was watching a documentary on the musician
singer songwriter Tom Waits and it was fascinating. But it's
probably not going to be in anybody's wheelhouse here. Is
there anything that somebody's watching because the audience always wants
to know what are you watching or what are you
listening to? Marvin, you were watching something on Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Yes, I was watching Kobe The Making of a Legend.
It's a three part series. It's on Max right now. Okay,
so it goes into his childhood in Italy and him
coming over to the States in Philadelphia and then everything
that went into making him the Black Mamba.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
But he also talks about he had to learn the language,
like the slang, the slang in the United States.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Yeah, he was on a podcast I forget which one,
maybe in All the Smoke, and he goes when I
came to Americas when I was thirteen, and people say
what's up?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
And he would look up in the air. He's like,
those are one of those things that would just get me.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's so great. What's up? I don't know, God, I'm
watching White Lotus, I'm watching Reacher. I mean I watched
a movie with what's his name, Jay Justin hart heart
(38:01):
No no this well, no, this is a a former
heart throb. No no, no, he moved to London to
get away from all the media. Oh well he's he
plays some slasher who takes his daughter to see a concert.
(38:24):
Oh yeah, uh Josh Josh Hartner, Josh hart Y. Yeah,
terrible movie. Yeah, that's a m night. Shyamalan, terrible night.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Shyamalan really just knocked it out of the park with
the sixth has.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Been Uh, Okay, I'm watching that movie and then I
fast forward because I can't stay on anything for more
than fifteen minutes. It's terrible. I get I'm watching going,
you know. He goes and convinces somebody who's related to
the singer who's probably supposed to be Dua Lipa to
get you know that she's you know, battling an ill
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or something, and then she gets on stage to be
able to dance while while she's on stage, and then
he gets to go and do whatever he's going to
kill people in the concert. If terrible, terrible.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Yes, I just finished season one of a show called Paradise.
The actor Sterling K. Brown, James Marsden, and some others.
He's really good. I'm gonna give it a full reco Okay,
first episode has a huge curveball.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
At the end. Stay with it. So Paradise, Paradise. You
show Paradise Hulu. I think, right, Dylan, you got anything
that you're watching.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
I actually watched the first two episodes of Paradise and
it's good. It definitely it takes its tur and I
was not expecting, but.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So far, so good, seating you got anything?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I just watched that movie Nusferatu. Okay, yeah, yeah, I
was really looking forward to that and maybe not.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I tried to watch the The Rape Finds was it Covenant?
Oh yeah, yeah with the Bishops. Yeah. I tried, but
it reminded me of my childhood and way too much church.
I'm like, no, no, no, I don't want to do this. Yes.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
I just watched about fifteen minutes of the first episode
of The New Yellowstone or whatever with Helen Mirren and
Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford, yeah, yeah, which is like I
could watch shows like that. I don't really care about
the story all that much. I kind of just like
the scenery. Yeah, you know, which I like, it's a
little weird, but like, I could just watch that. But
there were parts of it at some point I just
(40:35):
turned it off because I was like, oh my god,
look at Harrison Ford pretended to be a cowboy walking
down the street. This is hilarious. I just couldn't remove myself,
like seeing he always has that sort of like bewildered
and amused face kind of thing, and he's on a
horse going down looking at this city or town or whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
And nearly and I've been watching Stanley Tucci in Italy Oh, oh,
I love that. That's great. Great, he was in Bologna.
I'm gonna move to Bologna.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Getting all this food. Yeah, the people. That's great, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Also the sly Stone documentary.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh, yes, I gotta watch that.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yes. Actually I had been calling for that, and then
all of a sudden, Questlove does the documentary I look
forward to? I had been I'd be like, somebody needs
to do a documentary on sly and the family Stone.
He was Prince before Prince Final Hour. We'll check in
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