July 21, 2025 • 41 mins
NFL insider Albert Breer stops by with the latest NFL offseason news. Plus, Dan and the Danettes break down some of the trends in uniform design for professional and college sports teams throughout the years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, it's our two and it's great to be back.
It's a Monday Best and Worst of the weekend. What
you saw that you liked, you didn't like. Operator Tyler's
sitting by. He'll take your phone calls, we'll come up
with a new poll question. We'll talk some football. Spend
a lot of time first hour talking about Scotti Scheffler,
the reluctant superstar, and instead of just saying he's a
(00:27):
great golfer's he's a great golfer. But we're waiting for
that personality and it's never coming. So enjoy the golf.
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and that will be on Peacock, our streaming partner. Thank
you for downloading the app. Pole question for hour two
is going to be what By the way, we'll talk
to Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback. You've got the
commander's situation. The President of the United States says he
want the Washington wants the Washington Commanders to go back
to their roots and go back to their previous nickname.
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How will they react? He also was demanding that the
Cleveland Guardians would go back to their previous nickname. They've
think said publicly that they are not going to do that.
Our two poll question Seaton, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
From hour one we had up there for the PGA
tour Scottie Scheffler is awesome or an issue?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We've got about ninety one percent holding on to awesome.
That's pretty great. And then we also just put up
there is teal overrated as a color? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Fifty five percent of the audience saying no, teal is
not overrated as a color. It's properly rated.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
There was a time in sports where it felt like
you had to have teal in your uniform. Teal had
maintained the old Oh, Charlotte Hornets, Marvin claims the best
NBA uniform when they went with the teal with Larry Johnson.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Grandmama, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Man, that that's Charlotte Hornet's starter jacket was hotter than
fish grease. Everybody had one. Maybe it's an age thing.
Maybe if you're in my era, did Charlotte Hornets? Look,
they weren't the world's best team, but they were the
world's most stylish team.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, I grew up in an era where we didn't
really look at the uniforms and say, okay, all like
that team because of their uniform. You kind of just
like the team. I think maybe some of these teams
were that good, or we were trying to attract a
younger audience. We're like, look at the pretty colors on
that team. Now, that team was interesting and fun to watch,
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but I didn't fall in love with you like you
love the Toronto Blue Jays logo just because you loved
the logo.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Right, and otis Nixon?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh, otis Nixon? Yeah, of course I put those two together.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yes, paul I did a bit of teal research, and
the Dolphins have had teal forever, but no one really
tried it until the late eighties. Nineteen eighty eight, the
Hornets went teal and purple and it quickly soared to
the top and then be merchandise sales.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Then the fallout from that. Hockey did it.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
The San Jose Sharks, the Mighty Ducks, the Vancouver Grizzlies
of course did it. That got some pretty good praise.
The Diamondbacks did teal, The Mariners did some teal. Even
the Pistons when they did those jerseys with the Grant
Hill there's a lot of teal in those as well.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Well.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Teal caught on in the nineties and two thousands. Jaguars, Well,
what is the what's what's the new color?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is there a you gotta have this in your uniform, Marvin,
since you, you and Paulie are the uniform police.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, that's how we live.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I gotta give it a little bit more research because yeah,
got look, you had to have black in your uniform.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
There there was a pretty good time frame where black
was your alternative uniforms.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah, I'm reading that too.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Back in the just before this, when nw A got big,
black alternate uniforms caught on as well. With the Raiders
soaring to the top of the march charts, a lot
of people credit nw A.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
M Yeah, that white sox hat was a big deal too,
the one that just said socks, the black hat, white lettering.
I feel like Neon colors are still having a little
bit of a moment.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Neon.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yes, some of those like more bright fluorescent colors. Maybe
credit Oregon a little bit with that, but bright colors,
I think, and as an alternate uniform especially.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, but there's some schools where you go, wait, what
are your official colors? You know, the Penn State's always
going to be Penn State. Ohio State's not changing. Notre
Dame has changed the you know, like the shine on
their helmet, they've had alternate uniform USC is always US.
There's certain schools where you go, I know what, I'm Alabama,
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you know what you're watching there. Where's other schools it
feels like, hey, how about we maybe give you a
shiny object to notice over here, so you're not noticing
the team is not very good and I'm all in
on some of these smaller schools that have really interesting helmets,
and they've come a long way with how those helmets
look and how they shine, and and you know, the
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definition that you have with them designs that are on
the helmet. I'm all in on that. It's just I
like when school like Texas Longhorns, that's Texas. They don't
need alternative When are we are we going to do
that with you know the blue bloods. Oregon did it
and has done it, and they've done it really well.
But some of these schools, you go, what are your
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official school colors? Yes, Paul, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Going back to Oregon about twenty years ago, right around
the Joey Harrington era at quarterback, when they started having
rotating uniforms, obviously partnering with Nike. Last year Oregon football,
I have been wearing eight different uniform options over the
course of twelve games. They have five base uniforms. They
don't even have like a home and away they have
five different rotating base unit. But the fallout from Nike
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and Oregon in two thousand and five, six seven, everyone
started doing it. Everybody started doing it, Virginia Tech, everybody.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Yeah, But you didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Ohio State didn't do it, did they They have?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
They have not as often they stay true to their colors.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Oh, you're right, but they have. Sometimes they'll do a white.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
White hasn't USC hasn't done it, though a lot. Now
State hasn't done it, Texas hasn't done it. Alabama hasn't
done it. Yeah, that's right. I remember seeing an alternate
with Ohio State. All right, so it's hour two on
the program. Let's change the poll question the Scotti Sheffler
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one seat and let's go with something an hour two.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
All sent this one over a better All Star weekend
and NBA or MLB.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
MLB. Yeah, it's not even close. You were in Indiana
and Caitlin Clark didn't play, So are we talking NBA
or NBA?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
NBA? Oh, the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh okay, I thought you're talking w NBA because that
was kind of a no show as far as no
Caitlyn Clark and it's in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
NBA.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I'm not big on the NBA All Star Game,
So yeah, major League Baseball had something interesting to it
and he had a dramatic finish.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yes, absolutely, you know who.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We spent way too much time talking about Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark. You know who it feels like, does
it like Caitlyn Clark? And that's Kelsey Plumb. I don't
even think she tries to disguise it anymore. She will
take a jab step with Caitlyn Clark all the time.
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And the only thing I can think of is Kelsey
played at the University of Washington. She scored thirty five
hundred points. And I don't want to throw a big
blanket over this, but nobody really cared nationally about it.
Locally it was a big deal. She's a wonderful player,
been very successful in the WNBA. Caitlin Clark comes along
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and all of a sudden people care about how many
points she has, and I think Kelsey is like, what
about me? It's like, oh, yeah, you had a lot
of points there, but you didn't score them the way
she does. But the WNBA and their contract negotiations going on, man,
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there's a lot of drama, a lot of drama going
on there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yes, Marvin, if.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
You're the WNBA, you know what, We're just going to
keep it at Indianapolis n til Katelin Clark plays it.
Ticket prices went down fifty when people found out she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Playing Yeah, yeah, and then she was going to be
in the three point shooting contest as well. Let me
get a couple of phone calls in here, David in
Phoenix joining us. Hi, David, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Hey, good morning, Dan. I got a stat of the
day for you. Going into last weekend, my Pittsburgh Pirates
had a combined record of ten thousand, eight hundred and
seventy eight wins and ten thousand, eight hundred and seventy
eight losses. Since then, the weekend, they lost three in
a row and are under five hundred for the first
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time since nineteen oh three.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Whooo a day, start of a day, start of a day.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Start of a day.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
This is the start of the day.
Speaker 9 (10:25):
Day.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm
just going to take your word. Stat of the Day
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of the Dan Patrick Show Boy. That would be the ultimate.
We're an average franchise with the same number wins, same
number of losses in your entire history. Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (10:50):
ADP?
Speaker 10 (10:50):
Thanks for taking my call do a little best and
worst last week since you guys have gone. Best of
last week was Shane Gillis being able to say what
he said on a day broadcast, and worst was you
guys being gone. And just to sum up Scotty Scheffler
a little bit, I think Jordan's feet. You know, he
kind of said it best when he just kind of
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goes home and does his thing. Then when it's time
to go.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
To work, he goes to work.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
He's seen and not heard. And my question for you is,
do you think, without being too political, do you think
our political landscape now it's kind of shaped how we
consume our athletes where louder is better and maybe substance
is appreciated.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, I don't break it down that way, Zach,
And I'm gonna guess a lot of people do. Thanks
for the phone calls. I just look at Scotty Scheffler
and say, this is who he is. Nobody ever said
boy Tom Watson's great, but does he have personality? Nick
Faldo didn't have personality when he played, but he was great.
(11:57):
I think the hard part is being great. It's the
other part that I think we expect with our athletes,
our celebrities. I don't know, does somebody say, you know,
Tom Cruise is a great actor, but does he have
a personality? Like we just pick and choose with individuals
like that. I have no idea, but it doesn't matter.
(12:19):
I'm not looking for something more. I think there's so
much style over substance that in all walks of life,
and I think that that clouds our judgment. Sometimes you'll go, boy,
that artist is awesome. Are they a good singer?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
No? No, not really, but man, they.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Got you know, social media, and you know they're they're
out and about all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah. See yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I think with music there's pop stars and then there's artists,
right or musicians. I think, you know, there is a
such thing too as too much personality, Like you said
Tom Cruise, right, Remember he did that interview with Oprah
and he stood up on the couch and everyone's kind
of like, man, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Dude's a little weird. Now.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I wonder if that hurt his movies to some degree.
He kind of took a dip there for a little bit,
step back for a while, and you're like, man, I
kind of wish I knew less about Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, but I don't know do you do that with
the artist, Like, I don't know if you say, boy,
that guy is great at what he does, but he
doesn't have a personality.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's almost like.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We want that more than we do the actual substance.
It's like, man, he's entertaining. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
And if you listen to the announcers on the Golf Channel,
they're talking about Scotti Scheffer all weekend. His calm demeanor,
they say, is the single biggest strength. He's so calm
during the tense moments a Sunday of a Master's or
a US Open, and by him being almost sedate out
there on the course, he doesn't make any mistakes. So
his calm personality it's not going to change because it's
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built winning golf for him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Ricky Fowler is more popular than Scotty Scheffler, but Ricky
hasn't won anything. He's he's Ricky Fowler. Every time you
see him, you're like, oh, Ricky Fowler.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah. See, I think that's kind of the memory of
Ricky Fowler.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, but it feels like it's still there even when
I'm watching this weekend they're like, oh, look at Ricky
Vowler on the leaderboard, Like uh, yep, there he is,
and there he goes. But it still feels like, you know,
he he's a draw. He hasn't had that moment. I
think he won in Detroit a couple of years ago. Yes, Tom,
I don't need someone to.
Speaker 11 (14:32):
Break a club or yell at their caddy or throw
any kind of fit or jump in the water, but
a fist pump or some kind of excitement when you
hit a good shot, even though you're hitting all these
great shots in recent isn't blowing out away the competition.
That wouldn't be a terrible thing unless he thinks that's
gonna throw off his concentration. By celebrating a great shot,
we get a little emotion on the positive side.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But he he doesn't do that.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I mean, it's so robotic.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
It's just very odd when you hit a great chot
not to get excited, just like a natural instinct you
would think a person would have.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, Okay, it's not going to happen. Just let you know,
not going to happen. He's going to be this way,
probably wire to wire. All right, we'll take a break,
we'll talk some football. Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback,
will join us. We will talk a little bit more
about the greatness of Scheffler and at what point do
you allow the comparison to happen with him and Tiger
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Wood's rich Lerner from Golf Channel will join us from
Northern Ireland coming up in an hour from now. Take
a break back after this with Albert Breer.
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More phone calls coming up. What you saw that you
like and didn't like from the weekend, best and worst
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senior NFL reporter, back on the program.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Let me start with the TJ.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Watt situation because it's something that we've talked about and
I kept wondering, what are the Steelers waiting for? Like, yeah,
if you're all in with Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf,
and then you have to be all in on TJ.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Watt. So why did it take such a long time
to get this deal done?
Speaker 14 (17:23):
Well, So, like, first of all, like what you're laying
out is exactly why I never thought there was any
I mean, you can put TJ. Watt in trade and
a tweet and it'll probably get a lot of engagement,
but that was never on the radar. I mean it
would be it would fly in the face of everything
that the Steelers have done, which ostensibly this offseason is
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to try to make the most.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Of what TJ. Watt has left, you know, and going
and getting.
Speaker 14 (17:51):
Older players that are more as peers like Aaron Rodgers
and Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay. So the idea he
wasn't going to be a steel Or in twenty twenty five,
as much as people like to throw those things around,
was never on anyone's radar. As for why it took
so long, I just think that there's this fast escalation
of numbers at so many different positions now that's probably
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made teams a little queasy, and I think for some teams,
and not saying the Stealers specifically, but for some teams
it's almost like they want to see proof that this
one deal over here is not just an outlier, right
like that there are other deals that are going to
come in underneath it. So obviously that deal on the
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edge rusher market was Miles Garrett, which pushed the number
from thirty four, which is where Nick Bosa was, to forty.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Which is a big jump.
Speaker 14 (18:46):
But after Miles Garrett gets done, you have daneil Hunter
doing an extension and he's an older player that was
in the mid thirties, right that deal with on an
average per year basis was in.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
The mid thirties.
Speaker 14 (18:58):
And then you see Max Crosby on his you know,
on his fourth contract, I think doing a deal wasn't
that wasn't that range as well. And so you know,
at that point, not only do you have you know,
some data points that the t. J. Watt deal isn't
and out isn't a complete or that the that the
Miles Garrett deal isn't a complete outlier, you also have
some older players doing deals that are in that range.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
And so I think that's where.
Speaker 14 (19:23):
It sort of became an inevitability that the Steelers were
going to have to go that extra mile to get
him done and the numbers.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Are very real.
Speaker 14 (19:30):
This isn't one of those where the the the initial
the initial report is complete garbage and the actual deal
is is much more reasonable.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
This was this was a deal. This was a deal
in the forties.
Speaker 14 (19:41):
And you know, obviously now that's going to affect other guys,
you know, like Trey Hendrickson and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I wonder about that that.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know, these teams keep waiting and waiting, and then
it's it's the same thing, you know with the Cowboys
with Dak Prescott. You know, like you're waiting and you're waiting.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Do you need to wait?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Michael Parsons waiting, waiting. I just don't understand the logic.
But these are billionaires and I don't understand their logic.
So help me out. Jarry Jones is waiting?
Speaker 14 (20:13):
I mean, Dan, aren't the Eagles a great example right,
like of doing it the other way? I mean, they
got DeVante Smith done early. That deal looks very reasonable.
They've kept redoing aj Brown's deal. You know, they took
advantage of Saquon Barkley in a depressed running back market.
Like there are teams that have have moved faster on
these things. You know, And so I'm with you one
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hundred percent on that. I'm where like that the waiting
for waiting to do a deal usually it just cost
you money.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Explain this where it And once again, the timing of
a story coming out is really important of how big
it is or how small it is. The Nick Saban
may come back to coaching and you had, you know,
his one of his former quarterback saying he had a
good source here. Paul Feinbaum said this, and now like,
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what is this leading to with Nick Saban?
Speaker 8 (21:09):
So I would say.
Speaker 14 (21:10):
That, like, maybe there's an itch that he wants to scratch,
or he wants to at least explore scratching in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
You know, I know, I think urban Meyer was on
the air somewhere. I think he was.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
He was with Colin or someone like that, like and
and he uh, he said something on the lines of
like I He's like I Like, He's like, I don't
think I'll do it in college because of all of
the reasons that he left college football in the first place.
But I could see him doing it in the NFL,
right Like, And so, you know, I think the possibility
exists that maybe he looks at it and says, if
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there is a situation where I can win quickly, where
there's a quarterback, I don't feel completely satisfied with what
happened in Miami twenty years ago. And he every time
he talks about the NFL, he'll bring up the Miami
Doctors and there as the assessment of Breeze, and if
you remember Dan, I mean, the people were picking them
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to go to the super Bowl in two thousand and six,
which was his last year in Miami. And obviously the
Culpeper thing went the wrong way and the Breeze thing
went the right way in New Orleans. And so there's
always been that question lingering out there. If the doctors
had cleared Drew Brees in Miami, he would have signed there.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
What would it have become?
Speaker 14 (22:23):
Would Nick Saban have ever gotten to Alabama? So the
same way we've always asked those questions, does he ask
that question of himself, especially when he's looking at it
and saying the college You know, the college game's a
little too complicated right now. There are a lot of
elements that I just don't want to deal with. But
if I go to the NFL, I can just focus
on coaching football. And if I have a veteran team
with an established quarterback, I could maybe step in and
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be a difference maker, because I don't think anybody, I
don't think anybody Dan thought coming out of his two
years in Miami that he wasn't good enough coach to
coach in the NFL. Like he was fine as a coach,
it was the program, and it was that he couldn't
win at a high enough level quick enough to sell
the players on what was a very demanding program. But
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he's adjusted in a lot of ways over the years,
so it'd be interesting to see how he would apply
that to the NFL. I don't know, like what his
appetite is for it right now, but I certainly think
that if he made himself available, there would probably be
a team or two out there that would be interested
in looking at bringing him in here in whatever it
is five or six months.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
From now, more likely to coach in the NFL again,
Bill Belichick or Nick Sabe.
Speaker 14 (23:37):
I mean, I'd say Bill just because I think I
think Bill would jump at the opportunity. Well, see, that's hard,
because I think I think what's happened over the last
years has sort of damaged Bill to some degree.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Do I think he still has a desire to coach
in the NFL. I do. I don't know that.
Speaker 14 (23:57):
I'm not certain how much Nick would want to coach
in the NFL. I feel pretty strongly that Bill would
like to take another swing of coaching in the NFL. So,
just by fault, by default, for that reason, I would
say Bill. But I think hiring either of those guys
as complicated. It's like almost like I've compared it to
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It's almost like when Tom Brady was a free agent,
or when Aaron Rodgers has been out there the last
couple of years. It's like, Yes, that guy's really good
at that job. But for a team to bring that
person in, they need to check a lot of boxes.
Does the coach a quarterback? Like the geography of the place,
is the team in a win now spot? Does the
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team have a quarterback? Is the infrastructure of the organization
does it fit that coacher quarterback?
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Like I think when you're talking about these.
Speaker 14 (24:46):
Older guys, what limits the pool of teams that would
be interested in them really is the amount of boxes
that you have to check to be in a position
where there would be mutual interests. So I think that's
what Bill or Nick would be battling if they're going
to get.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Into the NFL in twenty six.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He's the Monday Morning quarterback Albert Breer. How much pressure
are the commanders slashing the NFL under with the President
of the United States saying I demand that they returned
to their previous nickname.
Speaker 14 (25:17):
I like, as much as this has been talked about, Dan, Like,
when I've talked to commanders people about this over the
last couple of years, I like, every time I go
to them, it's like, that's not even we don't even
we haven't even discussed that. That's not even something that
we would bring up, you know. And so like, if
those conversations are happening in the commander's organization, they are
(25:41):
at a very high level, and they're being kept very
very quiet.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I would be.
Speaker 14 (25:46):
Surprised, just because I think it would be a reaction
to what's happening in the here and the now, and
I think it would be asking for another problem to
come up in five or ten years. Everything that they
went through and after all that they endured over the
last twenty years in the fight over that name, by
(26:09):
going back to the name, I think you would be
sort of inviting that same conversation to crop up. Now,
maybe it would be okay at first, but you'd be
inviting that conversation to crop back up very very quickly.
And I think there are ways that you know that
Josh Harris and his ownership group and Adam Peters and
Dan Quinn can celebrate their past, can celebrate the history
(26:31):
of the franchise, can honor the history of the franchise without.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Going back to that name.
Speaker 14 (26:36):
And I'm saying that without like presenting my own opinion
on it, but I just think, I just think like
going back to that name might help you in certain
ways today, but I think you'd be creating another long.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
Term problem for yourself.
Speaker 14 (26:51):
And I just I again like I just haven't sensed
any appetite within the organization to go there.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
The only reason why it probably doesn't go away. Like
the Guardians, the Cleveland Guardians, they're not going back to
the Indians. I think they've already said they're not. But
there's no stadium involved in I know, you know, the commanders,
you know there's a stadium involved in this. And that's
why I don't know if the President gets involved in that,
(27:20):
gets his hands dirty in saying, Hey, I can hold
up this stadium situation here, and I and I and.
Speaker 14 (27:27):
I would like on the flip side to kind of,
you know, get behind your point a little bit. I
you know, Donald Trump did that photo op with UH
with Roger Goodell and Josh Harris in the Oval Office
in May to announce the draft is coming to Washington
in twenty twenty seven. So I just kind of thought
(27:49):
to myself, that looks funny, like what's going on there?
And so I started googling, like, you know, I googled
Goodell Trump, I googled Goodell Biden, I googled Goodell Obama,
I googled Odell. I'm Goodell Bush. And then finally, finally
(28:09):
I found a picture of George W. Bush and Paul
tagleybo in two thousand and three promoting the Kickoff Game
being in Washington. They did a photo op to promote
I think it was the Redskins and the Jets at.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
The time playing in the kickoff game. So it had been.
Speaker 14 (28:26):
Twenty two years since a sitting president did a photo
op with an NFL commissioner, and it was right around
the time when the Pete Rose stuff was going on
in Baseball and so you know, I think there's some
speculation that that could be tied to the Justice.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Department and the ESPN NFL network merger.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
And would Donald Trump put his thumb on the scale
one way or the other, like like it does seem
like he's trying, like President Trump is trying to involve
himself in sports on a bunch of different levels.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
And so, you know, I think that's the one reason
why you look at this and.
Speaker 14 (29:06):
You say, you know, maybe maybe that will put some
pressure on the commanders to do something here because it
is such a big deal getting a new stadium built again.
Like I just I have a hard time seeing them
going back. But you know, stranger things have happened.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, I remember when, you know, I saw that the
Commissioner of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, was meeting with
Donald Trump and they were going to talk about Pete Rose.
And I said on the air, I said, Pete Rose
is going to get on the ballot again. He will
get on the ballot. Now, have I learned some things
behind the scenes with that.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I have.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I just need to I have to be careful with
that because I want to second source on this. But
you know what, the President was suggesting to the commissioner
that you know, these things could happen. We need to
have this happen. And look, it's a victory lap for
the president. Is everybody gonna go, yeah, Pete should be
(30:05):
in the Hall of Fame. I think we can all
agree should be in the Hall of Fame, or at
least put him on the ballot if you want to.
But that's why I'm just curious of the logic, the
angle of this with the commanders and also the guardians.
I did want to follow up the NFL Players Association.
This feels like a mess. Well it is a mess, disaster,
but I want to know what does this mean for
(30:27):
the football fan because we can get caught up in
all of this, and we know a lot of the
people who are involved in this. But if I'm a
football fan, why do I care what's going on? The
unrest that people are stepping down with the players Association, Well, I.
Speaker 14 (30:42):
Think, first of all, like as far as big box
decisions like eighteen games, it could put a hold on those,
like anything that players have power over. I think now
the union hits the pause button while it's sorting its
own house out, you know, the other thing is that
like you don't know what the approach of the next
(31:03):
executive director is now.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
To me, like the executive.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
Director of the NFLPA, that's one of the most difficult
jobs in sports. It's different than the basketball or baseball
or hockey union because there are so many more players
and the great majority of players are twenty two to
twenty three, twenty four years old that may or may
not make a million dollars in career earnings, and try
getting those guys to walk away from a paycheck to
make a point, which is the trump card of any union,
(31:27):
right is is we're going to take money out of
the owners pockets by staging a workstoppage. So it's a
tough group to keep together. It's a tough group to unify.
And this is an opportunity now for the players to
decide what they want out of their union. And I
think this becomes a seminal moment for them. So when
(31:49):
we're talking about eighteen games, when we're talking about the
owners opting out of the broadcast deals at the end
of the decade, when we're talking about the next CBA,
which will be at the beginning of the next decade,
this could all look different, because I think the football
unions operated a certain way, you know, over the last
(32:10):
twenty years or so, and this is a chance for
the players to reinvent the whole thing.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
So they're going to decide what's important to.
Speaker 14 (32:20):
Them, you know, and I think that they need to
take the opportunity to really kind of look in the
mirror and and and say, like, what is the function
of this union, Where do we want this to go?
Speaker 8 (32:31):
What are our priorities.
Speaker 14 (32:34):
You know, there are gonna be some complex conversations with
you know, with guys who are on the executive committee,
with the player reps, and it'll be really interesting to
see where that goes. But when you're talking about eighteen games,
when you're talking about work stoppages, when you're talking about
what the broadcast deals look going look look like, going forward, international,
(32:55):
like anything that the players can affect, anything the players
can stop from happening, I think now you know, the
pause button is pressed on that stuff, and you know,
I think it's all of it becomes subject to however
the players want to reinvent things.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Good to chat with you again, Thank you, Albert.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Awesome, Thanks DV.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's Albert Brier. The Monday morning quarterback. By the way
I saw this, Marvin figured you would appreciate this. That
the head of the Players Association. I think he was
entertaining people at Magic City in Atlanta. Apparently there's some
strip club bills that charge to the NFL Players Association.
(33:40):
Everybody loves the wings at Magic City. Yes, Marvin, yeah,
us too.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
We didn't expense archrip the Magic City straight cash.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I did give you guys one hundred dollars. I gave
you and Mario one hundred dollars to go in and
have a good time and make it rain.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But that was gone in about fourteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yes, PAULI from the reports the past few years, it's
been the Players Association plays.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, I'm going to give you a blue bloop on
an We'll take a break. Yes, I giving you a
blue bloop on that one. When we come back, we
will give you our best and Worst to the weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
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Live Best and Worst to the Weekend. We've taken your
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sitting by. Take your phone calls, and it's time for
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to the weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Todd, I'll start with you.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
I went nonsports for both my best and worst best
of the weekend. Part one of the Billy Joel HBO
doc and So It Goes premiered this past Friday night.
Two and a half hours of wonderfulness that flew by
Part two this Friday night. Highly recommend it worst. Perhaps
it's possibly because I'm stuck in the seventies and eighties,
but he did not like the Superman movie.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
I still love Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
Don't want to see anyone else with Superman. I did
like Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, but did not like
the storyline and really didn't enjoy the New Superman movie.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
That was my worst.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, so thumbs down for Superman.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, I didn't love it.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
I didn't. I don't know what I was expecting, but
it was nothing like what I experienced in my younger
days with Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I did watch the first episode of Billy Joel. It's
really well done. We look at the finished product, and
you know, he's obviously very successful, but I didn't realize
the struggles. I knew some of the financial struggles, and
he was taken advantage of with some of these record
deals like most artists are. But he persevered the fact
(35:46):
that he was in LA and he was trying to
sound LA. He was trying to sound like you know,
James Taylor and Jackson Brown and Joni Mitchell, and he couldn't.
He was New York and then went back and just embraced
New York and that's how he became one of the
biggest art They wanted him to be an Elton Johnny goes,
I don't want to be Elton John.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I can't be Elton John. There's only one Elton John.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
But you know the fact that that streak of selling
out Madison Square Garden and how many how many times
has he sold that place outs? Still it's incredible, and
you probably have a lot of people it's like Springsteen.
You know, they just keep coming back because it takes
them back to a certain time, feel good music. But Billy,
(36:28):
Joel and HBO the documentary is so far, what I've
seen really well done.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Set invest and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
My best of the weekend is Damian Lillard going back
to Portland. I love that move for him. Tried it
in Milwaukee, didn't work out, go back home. It just
feels like the right move to me. My worst of
the weekend is links guard Courtney Williams. She was at
a WNBA after party, I guess an event for them,
(36:55):
and the place had hired Diplow, the DJ, who is
a big deal. You know, he's He's a massive name
in that world, and she apparently was unaware of who
he was and said to him like, can you stop
playing all this EDM and play smilar like pop music
that people know, probably know, one of the biggest DJs
in the world. She had absolutely no idea. It was
(37:16):
like complaining about the music to him, kind of hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, I, you know, we had a first hand experience
when we did Celebrity Family Feud and Diplo was on
one of the shows and he was right there in
front of us, and I had to be told that
that was Diplo, and I didn't know what to say
because I'm not familiar with his music. I can't go
you know, you know the song that I really like
(37:41):
it goes, Yeah, there's no real hits there, I don't think.
But yeah, we had Diplo right in front of us.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
See he walking around backstage at Celebrity Family Feud. It
was more of like that guy looks really familiar. Who
is that guy? You know? I think if he was
at a club at two in the morning, DJing me like, oh,
that must be Diplo, that must be the guy.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I had a better chance recognizing the Ruphaul drag queen
women than I did Diplo when I saw them at
Celebrity Family Feud, because those those women came in and
they were on fire. They were you knew they were
in the room. I had no idea that Diplo was there. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
By the way, we got to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
The debut episode of Celebrity Family Feud, biggest ratings in
four years.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
But they didn't show our show.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
They showed Jennifer Hudson on there and what is it
tj uh what uh?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
What's what's her name? Taraji?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, the way we were part of the show, it's
not just yeah, but it felt like we were like
the feature Dak there. They waited for us. We're the
second show there. Ahead of them, they didn't feature us. Yes,
that's what I'm looking for. Thanks Ston.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Yes, our fan.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Base helped break that record for the ratings clearly. Oh absolutely,
and I almost guarantee they're going to ask us back.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, would we do a rematch with The Rich Eisen
Show or.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Take on another show of our choice? Since we are
the defending change.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Let me just start Okay, let me just start with
the Rich Eisen Show because you know Eisen and I'm
sure would like a piece of us.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Todd.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Should we give them a rematch if we're invited back
to celebrity families?
Speaker 11 (39:39):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Okay, Seaton, Hell yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I want to go against the big dogs. I want
to go against Shack like the people that are there.
Shaq has been there a dozen times or whatever, and
his family crushes. I want to step up a level
into like the champions category.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
Inside the NBA Champions League.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, Marvin, should we give Rich Eyes in the Rich
Eisen Show a rematch?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
All right, Paul, No, we have nothing to prove. That
was a nice waxing. I would say we go against
the NBA Show. That'd be great, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think that eisen has.
You know, they they should be relegated. We should be promoted.
We're kind of wreckhome. Yeah, and uh right, speaking the truth.
They didn't step up. They got they got embarrassed, humbled. Yes, Tom,
they led.
Speaker 11 (40:36):
Eighty eight nothing in eighty eight seventy two through the
first two rounds before we just started exploding this.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
I know.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
That's a celebrity family.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
They were, they were the Falcons and it was in Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, we gotta face either you want an
NBA title or an Oscar or a Grammy.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
We got to move up.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'll take on you know,
Jennifer Hudson if I need to. But yeah, we we
I'm not going to give them a rematch there. See
what y'all leeds doing? Sorry, Todd, what's the right thing
to do?
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Thank you? Todd?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
All right, final hour on the way. Rich Lerner will
join us. He's over, still over at the Open Championship.
He'll join us. Talk about the greatness of Scottie Scheffler.
More of your phone calls as well. Eight seven seven
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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It's a Monday Best and Worst of the weekend. What
you saw that you liked, you didn't like. Operator Tyler's
sitting by. He'll take your phone calls, we'll come up
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the reluctant superstar, and instead of just saying he's a
(00:27):
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you for downloading the app. Pole question for hour two
is going to be what By the way, we'll talk
to Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback. You've got the
commander's situation. The President of the United States says he
want the Washington wants the Washington Commanders to go back
to their roots and go back to their previous nickname.
(01:33):
How will they react? He also was demanding that the
Cleveland Guardians would go back to their previous nickname. They've
think said publicly that they are not going to do that.
Our two poll question Seaton, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
From hour one we had up there for the PGA
tour Scottie Scheffler is awesome or an issue?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
We've got about ninety one percent holding on to awesome.
That's pretty great. And then we also just put up
there is teal overrated as a color? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Fifty five percent of the audience saying no, teal is
not overrated as a color. It's properly rated.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
There was a time in sports where it felt like
you had to have teal in your uniform. Teal had
maintained the old Oh, Charlotte Hornets, Marvin claims the best
NBA uniform when they went with the teal with Larry Johnson.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Grandmama, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Man, that that's Charlotte Hornet's starter jacket was hotter than
fish grease. Everybody had one. Maybe it's an age thing.
Maybe if you're in my era, did Charlotte Hornets? Look,
they weren't the world's best team, but they were the
world's most stylish team.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, I grew up in an era where we didn't
really look at the uniforms and say, okay, all like
that team because of their uniform. You kind of just
like the team. I think maybe some of these teams
were that good, or we were trying to attract a
younger audience. We're like, look at the pretty colors on
that team. Now, that team was interesting and fun to watch,
(03:10):
but I didn't fall in love with you like you
love the Toronto Blue Jays logo just because you loved
the logo.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Right, and otis Nixon?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh, otis Nixon? Yeah, of course I put those two together.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yes, paul I did a bit of teal research, and
the Dolphins have had teal forever, but no one really
tried it until the late eighties. Nineteen eighty eight, the
Hornets went teal and purple and it quickly soared to
the top and then be merchandise sales.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Then the fallout from that. Hockey did it.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
The San Jose Sharks, the Mighty Ducks, the Vancouver Grizzlies
of course did it. That got some pretty good praise.
The Diamondbacks did teal, The Mariners did some teal. Even
the Pistons when they did those jerseys with the Grant
Hill there's a lot of teal in those as well.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Well.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Teal caught on in the nineties and two thousands. Jaguars, Well,
what is the what's what's the new color?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Is there a you gotta have this in your uniform, Marvin,
since you, you and Paulie are the uniform police.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, that's how we live.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I gotta give it a little bit more research because yeah,
got look, you had to have black in your uniform.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
There there was a pretty good time frame where black
was your alternative uniforms.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah, I'm reading that too.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Back in the just before this, when nw A got big,
black alternate uniforms caught on as well. With the Raiders
soaring to the top of the march charts, a lot
of people credit nw A.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
M Yeah, that white sox hat was a big deal too,
the one that just said socks, the black hat, white lettering.
I feel like Neon colors are still having a little
bit of a moment.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Neon.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yes, some of those like more bright fluorescent colors. Maybe
credit Oregon a little bit with that, but bright colors,
I think, and as an alternate uniform especially.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, but there's some schools where you go, wait, what
are your official colors? You know, the Penn State's always
going to be Penn State. Ohio State's not changing. Notre
Dame has changed the you know, like the shine on
their helmet, they've had alternate uniform USC is always US.
There's certain schools where you go, I know what, I'm Alabama,
(05:38):
you know what you're watching there. Where's other schools it
feels like, hey, how about we maybe give you a
shiny object to notice over here, so you're not noticing
the team is not very good and I'm all in
on some of these smaller schools that have really interesting helmets,
and they've come a long way with how those helmets
look and how they shine, and and you know, the
(06:01):
definition that you have with them designs that are on
the helmet. I'm all in on that. It's just I
like when school like Texas Longhorns, that's Texas. They don't
need alternative When are we are we going to do
that with you know the blue bloods. Oregon did it
and has done it, and they've done it really well.
But some of these schools, you go, what are your
(06:22):
official school colors? Yes, Paul, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Going back to Oregon about twenty years ago, right around
the Joey Harrington era at quarterback, when they started having
rotating uniforms, obviously partnering with Nike. Last year Oregon football,
I have been wearing eight different uniform options over the
course of twelve games. They have five base uniforms. They
don't even have like a home and away they have
five different rotating base unit. But the fallout from Nike
(06:48):
and Oregon in two thousand and five, six seven, everyone
started doing it. Everybody started doing it, Virginia Tech, everybody.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Yeah, But you didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Ohio State didn't do it, did they They have?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
They have not as often they stay true to their colors.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Oh, you're right, but they have. Sometimes they'll do a white.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
White hasn't USC hasn't done it, though a lot. Now
State hasn't done it, Texas hasn't done it. Alabama hasn't
done it. Yeah, that's right. I remember seeing an alternate
with Ohio State. All right, so it's hour two on
the program. Let's change the poll question the Scotti Sheffler
(07:28):
one seat and let's go with something an hour two.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
All sent this one over a better All Star weekend
and NBA or MLB.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
MLB. Yeah, it's not even close. You were in Indiana
and Caitlin Clark didn't play, So are we talking NBA
or NBA?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
NBA? Oh, the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh okay, I thought you're talking w NBA because that
was kind of a no show as far as no
Caitlyn Clark and it's in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
NBA.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I'm not big on the NBA All Star Game,
So yeah, major League Baseball had something interesting to it
and he had a dramatic finish.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yes, absolutely, you know who.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
We spent way too much time talking about Angel Reese
and Caitlin Clark. You know who it feels like, does
it like Caitlyn Clark? And that's Kelsey Plumb. I don't
even think she tries to disguise it anymore. She will
take a jab step with Caitlyn Clark all the time.
(08:38):
And the only thing I can think of is Kelsey
played at the University of Washington. She scored thirty five
hundred points. And I don't want to throw a big
blanket over this, but nobody really cared nationally about it.
Locally it was a big deal. She's a wonderful player,
been very successful in the WNBA. Caitlin Clark comes along
(08:59):
and all of a sudden people care about how many
points she has, and I think Kelsey is like, what
about me? It's like, oh, yeah, you had a lot
of points there, but you didn't score them the way
she does. But the WNBA and their contract negotiations going on, man,
(09:19):
there's a lot of drama, a lot of drama going
on there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yes, Marvin, if.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
You're the WNBA, you know what, We're just going to
keep it at Indianapolis n til Katelin Clark plays it.
Ticket prices went down fifty when people found out she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Playing Yeah, yeah, and then she was going to be
in the three point shooting contest as well. Let me
get a couple of phone calls in here, David in
Phoenix joining us. Hi, David, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Hey, good morning, Dan. I got a stat of the
day for you. Going into last weekend, my Pittsburgh Pirates
had a combined record of ten thousand, eight hundred and
seventy eight wins and ten thousand, eight hundred and seventy
eight losses. Since then, the weekend, they lost three in
a row and are under five hundred for the first
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time since nineteen oh three.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Whooo a day, start of a day, start of a day.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Start of a day.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
This is the start of the day.
Speaker 9 (10:25):
Day.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm
just going to take your word. Stat of the Day
brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards
of the Dan Patrick Show Boy. That would be the ultimate.
We're an average franchise with the same number wins, same
number of losses in your entire history. Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (10:50):
ADP?
Speaker 10 (10:50):
Thanks for taking my call do a little best and
worst last week since you guys have gone. Best of
last week was Shane Gillis being able to say what
he said on a day broadcast, and worst was you
guys being gone. And just to sum up Scotty Scheffler
a little bit, I think Jordan's feet. You know, he
kind of said it best when he just kind of
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goes home and does his thing. Then when it's time
to go.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
To work, he goes to work.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
He's seen and not heard. And my question for you is,
do you think, without being too political, do you think
our political landscape now it's kind of shaped how we
consume our athletes where louder is better and maybe substance
is appreciated.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, I don't break it down that way, Zach,
And I'm gonna guess a lot of people do. Thanks
for the phone calls. I just look at Scotty Scheffler
and say, this is who he is. Nobody ever said
boy Tom Watson's great, but does he have personality? Nick
Faldo didn't have personality when he played, but he was great.
(11:57):
I think the hard part is being great. It's the
other part that I think we expect with our athletes,
our celebrities. I don't know, does somebody say, you know,
Tom Cruise is a great actor, but does he have
a personality? Like we just pick and choose with individuals
like that. I have no idea, but it doesn't matter.
(12:19):
I'm not looking for something more. I think there's so
much style over substance that in all walks of life,
and I think that that clouds our judgment. Sometimes you'll go, boy,
that artist is awesome. Are they a good singer?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
No? No, not really, but man, they.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Got you know, social media, and you know they're they're
out and about all the time.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah. See yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I think with music there's pop stars and then there's artists,
right or musicians. I think, you know, there is a
such thing too as too much personality, Like you said
Tom Cruise, right, Remember he did that interview with Oprah
and he stood up on the couch and everyone's kind
of like, man, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Dude's a little weird. Now.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I wonder if that hurt his movies to some degree.
He kind of took a dip there for a little bit,
step back for a while, and you're like, man, I
kind of wish I knew less about Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, but I don't know do you do that with
the artist, Like, I don't know if you say, boy,
that guy is great at what he does, but he
doesn't have a personality.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's almost like.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We want that more than we do the actual substance.
It's like, man, he's entertaining. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
And if you listen to the announcers on the Golf Channel,
they're talking about Scotti Scheffer all weekend. His calm demeanor,
they say, is the single biggest strength. He's so calm
during the tense moments a Sunday of a Master's or
a US Open, and by him being almost sedate out
there on the course, he doesn't make any mistakes. So
his calm personality it's not going to change because it's
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built winning golf for him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Ricky Fowler is more popular than Scotty Scheffler, but Ricky
hasn't won anything. He's he's Ricky Fowler. Every time you
see him, you're like, oh, Ricky Fowler.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah. See, I think that's kind of the memory of
Ricky Fowler.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, but it feels like it's still there even when
I'm watching this weekend they're like, oh, look at Ricky
Vowler on the leaderboard, Like uh, yep, there he is,
and there he goes. But it still feels like, you know,
he he's a draw. He hasn't had that moment. I
think he won in Detroit a couple of years ago. Yes, Tom,
I don't need someone to.
Speaker 11 (14:32):
Break a club or yell at their caddy or throw
any kind of fit or jump in the water, but
a fist pump or some kind of excitement when you
hit a good shot, even though you're hitting all these
great shots in recent isn't blowing out away the competition.
That wouldn't be a terrible thing unless he thinks that's
gonna throw off his concentration. By celebrating a great shot,
we get a little emotion on the positive side.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But he he doesn't do that.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I mean, it's so robotic.
Speaker 11 (15:00):
It's just very odd when you hit a great chot
not to get excited, just like a natural instinct you
would think a person would have.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, Okay, it's not going to happen. Just let you know,
not going to happen. He's going to be this way,
probably wire to wire. All right, we'll take a break,
we'll talk some football. Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback,
will join us. We will talk a little bit more
about the greatness of Scheffler and at what point do
you allow the comparison to happen with him and Tiger
(15:29):
Wood's rich Lerner from Golf Channel will join us from
Northern Ireland coming up in an hour from now. Take
a break back after this with Albert Breer.
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because this guy is over promising things we never have
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Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, you know what it's called over promise.
Speaker 12 (16:12):
You should be good at it because you've been over
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Speaker 2 (16:50):
More phone calls coming up. What you saw that you
like and didn't like from the weekend, best and worst
to the weekend. He's Albert Breer, the Monday Morning quarterback
senior NFL reporter, back on the program.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Let me start with the TJ.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Watt situation because it's something that we've talked about and
I kept wondering, what are the Steelers waiting for? Like, yeah,
if you're all in with Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf,
and then you have to be all in on TJ.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Watt. So why did it take such a long time
to get this deal done?
Speaker 14 (17:23):
Well, So, like, first of all, like what you're laying
out is exactly why I never thought there was any
I mean, you can put TJ. Watt in trade and
a tweet and it'll probably get a lot of engagement,
but that was never on the radar. I mean it
would be it would fly in the face of everything
that the Steelers have done, which ostensibly this offseason is
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to try to make the most.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Of what TJ. Watt has left, you know, and going
and getting.
Speaker 14 (17:51):
Older players that are more as peers like Aaron Rodgers
and Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay. So the idea he
wasn't going to be a steel Or in twenty twenty five,
as much as people like to throw those things around,
was never on anyone's radar. As for why it took
so long, I just think that there's this fast escalation
of numbers at so many different positions now that's probably
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made teams a little queasy, and I think for some teams,
and not saying the Stealers specifically, but for some teams
it's almost like they want to see proof that this
one deal over here is not just an outlier, right
like that there are other deals that are going to
come in underneath it. So obviously that deal on the
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edge rusher market was Miles Garrett, which pushed the number
from thirty four, which is where Nick Bosa was, to forty.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Which is a big jump.
Speaker 14 (18:46):
But after Miles Garrett gets done, you have daneil Hunter
doing an extension and he's an older player that was
in the mid thirties, right that deal with on an
average per year basis was in.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
The mid thirties.
Speaker 14 (18:58):
And then you see Max Crosby on his you know,
on his fourth contract, I think doing a deal wasn't
that wasn't that range as well. And so you know,
at that point, not only do you have you know,
some data points that the t. J. Watt deal isn't
and out isn't a complete or that the that the
Miles Garrett deal isn't a complete outlier, you also have
some older players doing deals that are in that range.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
And so I think that's where.
Speaker 14 (19:23):
It sort of became an inevitability that the Steelers were
going to have to go that extra mile to get
him done and the numbers.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Are very real.
Speaker 14 (19:30):
This isn't one of those where the the the initial
the initial report is complete garbage and the actual deal
is is much more reasonable.
Speaker 8 (19:38):
This was this was a deal. This was a deal
in the forties.
Speaker 14 (19:41):
And you know, obviously now that's going to affect other guys,
you know, like Trey Hendrickson and Micah Parsons.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I wonder about that that.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know, these teams keep waiting and waiting, and then
it's it's the same thing, you know with the Cowboys
with Dak Prescott. You know, like you're waiting and you're waiting.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Do you need to wait?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Michael Parsons waiting, waiting. I just don't understand the logic.
But these are billionaires and I don't understand their logic.
So help me out. Jarry Jones is waiting?
Speaker 14 (20:13):
I mean, Dan, aren't the Eagles a great example right,
like of doing it the other way? I mean, they
got DeVante Smith done early. That deal looks very reasonable.
They've kept redoing aj Brown's deal. You know, they took
advantage of Saquon Barkley in a depressed running back market.
Like there are teams that have have moved faster on
these things. You know, And so I'm with you one
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hundred percent on that. I'm where like that the waiting
for waiting to do a deal usually it just cost
you money.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Explain this where it And once again, the timing of
a story coming out is really important of how big
it is or how small it is. The Nick Saban
may come back to coaching and you had, you know,
his one of his former quarterback saying he had a
good source here. Paul Feinbaum said this, and now like,
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what is this leading to with Nick Saban?
Speaker 8 (21:09):
So I would say.
Speaker 14 (21:10):
That, like, maybe there's an itch that he wants to scratch,
or he wants to at least explore scratching in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
You know, I know, I think urban Meyer was on
the air somewhere. I think he was.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
He was with Colin or someone like that, like and
and he uh, he said something on the lines of
like I He's like I Like, He's like, I don't
think I'll do it in college because of all of
the reasons that he left college football in the first place.
But I could see him doing it in the NFL,
right Like, And so, you know, I think the possibility
exists that maybe he looks at it and says, if
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there is a situation where I can win quickly, where
there's a quarterback, I don't feel completely satisfied with what
happened in Miami twenty years ago. And he every time
he talks about the NFL, he'll bring up the Miami
Doctors and there as the assessment of Breeze, and if
you remember Dan, I mean, the people were picking them
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to go to the super Bowl in two thousand and six,
which was his last year in Miami. And obviously the
Culpeper thing went the wrong way and the Breeze thing
went the right way in New Orleans. And so there's
always been that question lingering out there. If the doctors
had cleared Drew Brees in Miami, he would have signed there.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
What would it have become?
Speaker 14 (22:23):
Would Nick Saban have ever gotten to Alabama? So the
same way we've always asked those questions, does he ask
that question of himself, especially when he's looking at it
and saying the college You know, the college game's a
little too complicated right now. There are a lot of
elements that I just don't want to deal with. But
if I go to the NFL, I can just focus
on coaching football. And if I have a veteran team
with an established quarterback, I could maybe step in and
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be a difference maker, because I don't think anybody, I
don't think anybody Dan thought coming out of his two
years in Miami that he wasn't good enough coach to
coach in the NFL. Like he was fine as a coach,
it was the program, and it was that he couldn't
win at a high enough level quick enough to sell
the players on what was a very demanding program. But
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he's adjusted in a lot of ways over the years,
so it'd be interesting to see how he would apply
that to the NFL. I don't know, like what his
appetite is for it right now, but I certainly think
that if he made himself available, there would probably be
a team or two out there that would be interested
in looking at bringing him in here in whatever it
is five or six months.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
From now, more likely to coach in the NFL again,
Bill Belichick or Nick Sabe.
Speaker 14 (23:37):
I mean, I'd say Bill just because I think I
think Bill would jump at the opportunity. Well, see, that's hard,
because I think I think what's happened over the last
years has sort of damaged Bill to some degree.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Do I think he still has a desire to coach
in the NFL. I do. I don't know that.
Speaker 14 (23:57):
I'm not certain how much Nick would want to coach
in the NFL. I feel pretty strongly that Bill would
like to take another swing of coaching in the NFL. So,
just by fault, by default, for that reason, I would
say Bill. But I think hiring either of those guys
as complicated. It's like almost like I've compared it to
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It's almost like when Tom Brady was a free agent,
or when Aaron Rodgers has been out there the last
couple of years. It's like, Yes, that guy's really good
at that job. But for a team to bring that
person in, they need to check a lot of boxes.
Does the coach a quarterback? Like the geography of the place,
is the team in a win now spot? Does the
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team have a quarterback? Is the infrastructure of the organization
does it fit that coacher quarterback?
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Like I think when you're talking about these.
Speaker 14 (24:46):
Older guys, what limits the pool of teams that would
be interested in them really is the amount of boxes
that you have to check to be in a position
where there would be mutual interests. So I think that's
what Bill or Nick would be battling if they're going
to get.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Into the NFL in twenty six.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He's the Monday Morning quarterback Albert Breer. How much pressure
are the commanders slashing the NFL under with the President
of the United States saying I demand that they returned
to their previous nickname.
Speaker 14 (25:17):
I like, as much as this has been talked about, Dan, Like,
when I've talked to commanders people about this over the
last couple of years, I like, every time I go
to them, it's like, that's not even we don't even
we haven't even discussed that. That's not even something that
we would bring up, you know. And so like, if
those conversations are happening in the commander's organization, they are
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at a very high level, and they're being kept very
very quiet.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I would be.
Speaker 14 (25:46):
Surprised, just because I think it would be a reaction
to what's happening in the here and the now, and
I think it would be asking for another problem to
come up in five or ten years. Everything that they
went through and after all that they endured over the
last twenty years in the fight over that name, by
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going back to the name, I think you would be
sort of inviting that same conversation to crop up. Now,
maybe it would be okay at first, but you'd be
inviting that conversation to crop back up very very quickly.
And I think there are ways that you know that
Josh Harris and his ownership group and Adam Peters and
Dan Quinn can celebrate their past, can celebrate the history
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of the franchise, can honor the history of the franchise without.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Going back to that name.
Speaker 14 (26:36):
And I'm saying that without like presenting my own opinion
on it, but I just think, I just think like
going back to that name might help you in certain
ways today, but I think you'd be creating another long.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
Term problem for yourself.
Speaker 14 (26:51):
And I just I again like I just haven't sensed
any appetite within the organization to go there.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
The only reason why it probably doesn't go away. Like
the Guardians, the Cleveland Guardians, they're not going back to
the Indians. I think they've already said they're not. But
there's no stadium involved in I know, you know, the commanders,
you know there's a stadium involved in this. And that's
why I don't know if the President gets involved in that,
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gets his hands dirty in saying, Hey, I can hold
up this stadium situation here, and I and I and.
Speaker 14 (27:27):
I would like on the flip side to kind of,
you know, get behind your point a little bit. I
you know, Donald Trump did that photo op with UH
with Roger Goodell and Josh Harris in the Oval Office
in May to announce the draft is coming to Washington
in twenty twenty seven. So I just kind of thought
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to myself, that looks funny, like what's going on there?
And so I started googling, like, you know, I googled
Goodell Trump, I googled Goodell Biden, I googled Goodell Obama,
I googled Odell. I'm Goodell Bush. And then finally, finally
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I found a picture of George W. Bush and Paul
tagleybo in two thousand and three promoting the Kickoff Game
being in Washington. They did a photo op to promote
I think it was the Redskins and the Jets at.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
The time playing in the kickoff game. So it had been.
Speaker 14 (28:26):
Twenty two years since a sitting president did a photo
op with an NFL commissioner, and it was right around
the time when the Pete Rose stuff was going on
in Baseball and so you know, I think there's some
speculation that that could be tied to the Justice.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Department and the ESPN NFL network merger.
Speaker 14 (28:47):
And would Donald Trump put his thumb on the scale
one way or the other, like like it does seem
like he's trying, like President Trump is trying to involve
himself in sports on a bunch of different levels.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
And so, you know, I think that's the one reason
why you look at this and.
Speaker 14 (29:06):
You say, you know, maybe maybe that will put some
pressure on the commanders to do something here because it
is such a big deal getting a new stadium built again.
Like I just I have a hard time seeing them
going back. But you know, stranger things have happened.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, I remember when, you know, I saw that the
Commissioner of Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, was meeting with
Donald Trump and they were going to talk about Pete Rose.
And I said on the air, I said, Pete Rose
is going to get on the ballot again. He will
get on the ballot. Now, have I learned some things
behind the scenes with that.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I have.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I just need to I have to be careful with
that because I want to second source on this. But
you know what, the President was suggesting to the commissioner
that you know, these things could happen. We need to
have this happen. And look, it's a victory lap for
the president. Is everybody gonna go, yeah, Pete should be
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in the Hall of Fame. I think we can all
agree should be in the Hall of Fame, or at
least put him on the ballot if you want to.
But that's why I'm just curious of the logic, the
angle of this with the commanders and also the guardians.
I did want to follow up the NFL Players Association.
This feels like a mess. Well it is a mess, disaster,
but I want to know what does this mean for
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the football fan because we can get caught up in
all of this, and we know a lot of the
people who are involved in this. But if I'm a
football fan, why do I care what's going on? The
unrest that people are stepping down with the players Association, Well, I.
Speaker 14 (30:42):
Think, first of all, like as far as big box
decisions like eighteen games, it could put a hold on those,
like anything that players have power over. I think now
the union hits the pause button while it's sorting its
own house out, you know, the other thing is that
like you don't know what the approach of the next
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executive director is now.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
To me, like the executive.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
Director of the NFLPA, that's one of the most difficult
jobs in sports. It's different than the basketball or baseball
or hockey union because there are so many more players
and the great majority of players are twenty two to
twenty three, twenty four years old that may or may
not make a million dollars in career earnings, and try
getting those guys to walk away from a paycheck to
make a point, which is the trump card of any union,
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right is is we're going to take money out of
the owners pockets by staging a workstoppage. So it's a
tough group to keep together. It's a tough group to unify.
And this is an opportunity now for the players to
decide what they want out of their union. And I
think this becomes a seminal moment for them. So when
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we're talking about eighteen games, when we're talking about the
owners opting out of the broadcast deals at the end
of the decade, when we're talking about the next CBA,
which will be at the beginning of the next decade,
this could all look different, because I think the football
unions operated a certain way, you know, over the last
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twenty years or so, and this is a chance for
the players to reinvent the whole thing.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
So they're going to decide what's important to.
Speaker 14 (32:20):
Them, you know, and I think that they need to
take the opportunity to really kind of look in the
mirror and and and say, like, what is the function
of this union, Where do we want this to go?
Speaker 8 (32:31):
What are our priorities.
Speaker 14 (32:34):
You know, there are gonna be some complex conversations with
you know, with guys who are on the executive committee,
with the player reps, and it'll be really interesting to
see where that goes. But when you're talking about eighteen games,
when you're talking about work stoppages, when you're talking about
what the broadcast deals look going look look like, going forward, international,
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like anything that the players can affect, anything the players
can stop from happening, I think now you know, the
pause button is pressed on that stuff, and you know,
I think it's all of it becomes subject to however
the players want to reinvent things.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Good to chat with you again, Thank you, Albert.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Awesome, Thanks DV.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's Albert Brier. The Monday morning quarterback. By the way
I saw this, Marvin figured you would appreciate this. That
the head of the Players Association. I think he was
entertaining people at Magic City in Atlanta. Apparently there's some
strip club bills that charge to the NFL Players Association.
(33:40):
Everybody loves the wings at Magic City. Yes, Marvin, yeah,
us too.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
We didn't expense archrip the Magic City straight cash.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I did give you guys one hundred dollars. I gave
you and Mario one hundred dollars to go in and
have a good time and make it rain.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But that was gone in about fourteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yes, PAULI from the reports the past few years, it's
been the Players Association plays.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, I'm going to give you a blue bloop on
an We'll take a break. Yes, I giving you a
blue bloop on that one. When we come back, we
will give you our best and Worst to the weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
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Live Best and Worst to the Weekend. We've taken your
phone calls will continue to do that. Operator Tyler is
sitting by. Take your phone calls, and it's time for
the dan Nets to give you their best and worst
to the weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Todd, I'll start with you.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
I went nonsports for both my best and worst best
of the weekend. Part one of the Billy Joel HBO
doc and So It Goes premiered this past Friday night.
Two and a half hours of wonderfulness that flew by
Part two this Friday night. Highly recommend it worst. Perhaps
it's possibly because I'm stuck in the seventies and eighties,
but he did not like the Superman movie.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
I still love Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
Don't want to see anyone else with Superman. I did
like Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, but did not like
the storyline and really didn't enjoy the New Superman movie.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
That was my worst.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, so thumbs down for Superman.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, I didn't love it.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
I didn't. I don't know what I was expecting, but
it was nothing like what I experienced in my younger
days with Christopher Reeve.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I did watch the first episode of Billy Joel. It's
really well done. We look at the finished product, and
you know, he's obviously very successful, but I didn't realize
the struggles. I knew some of the financial struggles, and
he was taken advantage of with some of these record
deals like most artists are. But he persevered the fact
(35:46):
that he was in LA and he was trying to
sound LA. He was trying to sound like you know,
James Taylor and Jackson Brown and Joni Mitchell, and he couldn't.
He was New York and then went back and just embraced
New York and that's how he became one of the
biggest art They wanted him to be an Elton Johnny goes,
I don't want to be Elton John.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I can't be Elton John. There's only one Elton John.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
But you know the fact that that streak of selling
out Madison Square Garden and how many how many times
has he sold that place outs? Still it's incredible, and
you probably have a lot of people it's like Springsteen.
You know, they just keep coming back because it takes
them back to a certain time, feel good music. But Billy,
(36:28):
Joel and HBO the documentary is so far, what I've
seen really well done.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Set invest and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
My best of the weekend is Damian Lillard going back
to Portland. I love that move for him. Tried it
in Milwaukee, didn't work out, go back home. It just
feels like the right move to me. My worst of
the weekend is links guard Courtney Williams. She was at
a WNBA after party, I guess an event for them,
(36:55):
and the place had hired Diplow, the DJ, who is
a big deal. You know, he's He's a massive name
in that world, and she apparently was unaware of who
he was and said to him like, can you stop
playing all this EDM and play smilar like pop music
that people know, probably know, one of the biggest DJs
in the world. She had absolutely no idea. It was
(37:16):
like complaining about the music to him, kind of hilarious.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, I, you know, we had a first hand experience
when we did Celebrity Family Feud and Diplo was on
one of the shows and he was right there in
front of us, and I had to be told that
that was Diplo, and I didn't know what to say
because I'm not familiar with his music. I can't go
you know, you know the song that I really like
(37:41):
it goes, Yeah, there's no real hits there, I don't think.
But yeah, we had Diplo right in front of us.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
See he walking around backstage at Celebrity Family Feud. It
was more of like that guy looks really familiar. Who
is that guy? You know? I think if he was
at a club at two in the morning, DJing me like, oh,
that must be Diplo, that must be the guy.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I had a better chance recognizing the Ruphaul drag queen
women than I did Diplo when I saw them at
Celebrity Family Feud, because those those women came in and
they were on fire. They were you knew they were
in the room. I had no idea that Diplo was there. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
By the way, we got to talk about it.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
The debut episode of Celebrity Family Feud, biggest ratings in
four years.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
But they didn't show our show.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
They showed Jennifer Hudson on there and what is it
tj uh what uh?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
What's what's her name? Taraji?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, the way we were part of the show, it's
not just yeah, but it felt like we were like
the feature Dak there. They waited for us. We're the
second show there. Ahead of them, they didn't feature us. Yes,
that's what I'm looking for. Thanks Ston.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Yes, our fan.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Base helped break that record for the ratings clearly. Oh absolutely,
and I almost guarantee they're going to ask us back.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, would we do a rematch with The Rich Eisen
Show or.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Take on another show of our choice? Since we are
the defending change.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Let me just start Okay, let me just start with
the Rich Eisen Show because you know Eisen and I'm
sure would like a piece of us.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Todd.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Should we give them a rematch if we're invited back
to celebrity families?
Speaker 11 (39:39):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Okay, Seaton, Hell yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I want to go against the big dogs. I want
to go against Shack like the people that are there.
Shaq has been there a dozen times or whatever, and
his family crushes. I want to step up a level
into like the champions category.
Speaker 11 (39:55):
Inside the NBA Champions League.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, Marvin, should we give Rich Eyes in the Rich
Eisen Show a rematch?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
All right, Paul, No, we have nothing to prove. That
was a nice waxing. I would say we go against
the NBA Show. That'd be great, a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think that eisen has.
You know, they they should be relegated. We should be promoted.
We're kind of wreckhome. Yeah, and uh right, speaking the truth.
They didn't step up. They got they got embarrassed, humbled. Yes, Tom,
they led.
Speaker 11 (40:36):
Eighty eight nothing in eighty eight seventy two through the
first two rounds before we just started exploding this.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
I know.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
That's a celebrity family.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
They were, they were the Falcons and it was in Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, we gotta face either you want an
NBA title or an Oscar or a Grammy.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
We got to move up.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'll take on you know,
Jennifer Hudson if I need to. But yeah, we we
I'm not going to give them a rematch there. See
what y'all leeds doing? Sorry, Todd, what's the right thing
to do?
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Thank you? Todd?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
All right, final hour on the way. Rich Lerner will
join us. He's over, still over at the Open Championship.
He'll join us. Talk about the greatness of Scottie Scheffler.
More of your phone calls as well. Eight seven seven
three DP show operator Tyler just sitting by lonely man
waiting for your phone calls,
Hosts And Creators
Todd "Fritzy" Fritz
Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
Paul Pabst
Marvin Prince
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