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November 7, 2023 41 mins

Dan talks about Denver Nuggets C Nikola Jokić climbing up the all-time list of players who have recorded multiple triple-doubles in their NBA careers. And he talks to former NFL QB Matt Hasselbeck about last night's MNF game.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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A poll question that will recap from our one and
then a new a fresher pull a question coming up

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our two seat, and will do those honors right now.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Right now, Dan, Yes, the Alley Chargers are the more
frustrating franchise between the Chargers and the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's a sixty five percent. Now it's up.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Okay, And then I think we pivot to one that
we threw out a little earlier. If Aaron Rodgers will
actually play a game this season because a lot of
reaction to him throwing bombs last night on the sideline.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know he's throwing fifty yard bombs there last night. Now,
cleared to play and playing might be two different things.
We've seen that with Deshaun Watson. Cleared to play, but
should he play, yes, Paul.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
And don't forget the clear to resume football activities. Then's
a subsequent cleared to play, so we have multiple steps.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I think, okay, all right, So eight sep Show email
address dpat Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at dp show
say good morning. Those are radio affiliates, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio nearly four hundred cities to carry this program. Got
into a discussion last night and it almost morphed into

(02:17):
an argument and had to do with pizza. Because everybody's
got their favorite pizzeria, and then if you don't agree
with them, then you're the problem. And we're very fortunate
in this part of the country. New Haven has three
or four of the best pitzerias in the country, and
maybe even more than that. It's it's hard to find

(02:39):
bad pizza in the area. It's easy to find good pizza.
But all of a sudden, it's an off the cuff
comment and I mentioned that, you know, hey, I was
thinking about going to this place having pizza tonight with
my daughter, and why would you go there? Oh I
don't know. I like it, Well, you don't like it
better than that? And I go, oh, yeah, yeah, I do.

(02:59):
And all of a sudden it gets territorial and defensive.
I go, hey, it's okay, Like you can like your pizza.
I like this one. It's you know, it doesn't have to,
you know, be an argument. Who's arguing? I go, you're arguing.
I'm just telling you this is where I'm going to
go tomorrow night. Is that okay? PAULI do you think.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
People almost always I think I know the answer, almost
always side with the local pizza place they grew up on,
and they think it's great because they grew up on
it and they can't be objective.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, I grew up in a small town in Ohio
and the pizza wasn't great, But I didn't know it
wasn't great until I had great pizza. But when you
were I bet you were.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
You were nine and you got pizza was a treat
and when you got it, you and your brothers are
probably like, this is awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, wolf in it. Yeah yeah. But then you have
pizza in New York or in Connecticut New Haven and
you go, oh, wow, that's different. But yeah, people do
get territorial that you don't taste what they taste or
like what they like. Yes, ton I.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Agree with Paul.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
I think you're also affected with the how you grew
up and you have memories hanging out with your friends
on the weekend or after school or playing in the playground,
and you go grab a slice. Even if it's not
the greatest pizza, the memories and having it convenient near
where you grew up is probably part of why you
might think something is better than it actually takes.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, but this isn't about growing up. I didn't grow
up in the area. I'm just going to have pizza.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
But people get angry if you don't like their hometown pizza,
Like could they take you there? I took a friend.
There's a place called a Rilio's in Homewood where we
grew up, and we thought it was just the best.
There's a bunch of places in south Side Chicago, and
I brought a friend there from college. He goes, yeah,
it's not for me. I'm like, what you I was
twenty one years old. I was personally like upset with
this guy. But I think that's what happens, like the
guy last night.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, you know, if you're going to get into a
fight and please say, hey, come on, what are you
guys fighting about?

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Pizza? You know that's not the thing to get into
a fight, like a deep dish comment that we just
went at it.

Speaker 8 (04:56):
I'm not going to listen to that.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, and put your hands, b hand your back, put
the sausage down. Can I can I put my pizza down?
You put my right to remain silent? Yeah? Yeah, but
in this area, everybody's got their favorite pizza, and you know,
God forbid if you decide that you have something contrary
to that.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Because now New Haven Pizza is too touristy. So if
you want real pizza, you got to go outside in
New Haven. That's just where all the tourists go. Oh okay,
it's just pizza.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
See and I both lived at different times in New
Haven and went in the early days before it got
touristy popular, and it was you know, there's a but
now it's become like a tourist attraction of the state
of Connecticut, a real big one.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
But it's still great pizza there. It is. Yeah, I mean,
even though it's tourist I mean, it's not like Times
Square where you go in and you go, I'm going
to Bubba Gump Shrimp or something.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
But the problem is a lot of them are franchising now,
and so the ones that like, say Peppi's right, you
used to have to go to New Haven and that
was the only place you could get it. Well, there's
a dozen of them now and none of them are
even remotely as close to god as the original one is.
But you gotta wait at ninety minutes in line. Yeah
there's pizza, which, yeah, salam is a non starter.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Sally's and Peppies and Modern those are three of the
best in the country.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
And it's like a crowd draws a crowd. If you
go there on the weekends, it's eleven o'clock, he's placed
open and there's fifty tourists in line, standing in line,
and it causes people to want to go there more.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, Ton, and all of a sudden, sabarro got popular.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
It's in the mall.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
No, it didn't with you, it did. I like how
Todd goes Man, that's tomorrow. Pizza is good.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
I go for a big Actually, of course you do
have big city like peopall and noodles and what kinds
of stuff?

Speaker 9 (06:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, and I know what's in bake zd. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
They got a few different dishes there.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Nobody loves a chain restaurant like you do.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
You fill up the gas, you got to seize a
salad and a little big city.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I like when Todd goes man, Applebee's got everything you need,
you know, And I go, okay, just say noodles? Did
he did?

Speaker 8 (06:57):
They got the pasta there?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (06:59):
But God, and they'll give you all you can have
sup and salad and make the breadsticks and the pasta
that keeps coming till you explode. They'll just keep bringing
it to you.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, they bring all the stuff that doesn't cost any money. Yes,
they bring you let and they bring you bread and
some butter, and then you fill up.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You have played a fey Alfredo.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
They're bringing me alrighty, we're here. In the second hour
of the program, headlines Chargers handle the Jets, Daniel Jones
officially out for the season. The Cubs, I guess they
fired their manager to hire a manager. I don't know
if they had an opening there. But Craig Counsel from
the Brewers goes to the Cubs. How does David Ross

(07:40):
like what happens? Because I don't think there was an opening,
and then all of a sudden they have a new manager.
It's like, Cubs have a new manager, and I go, well,
what happened to the other one? They were two games
away from making the playoffs. Uh, yeah, that's got to
be weird. But if your dating, what do you do?
If you're David I mean, helped you in the World Series.

(08:04):
He was a World Series hero. Helped you manage that
team through covid ME. He did a lot of great things.
Craig Council, I think was up for a couple of jobs,
including the Mets. James Harden has seventeen and the Clippers
lost his debut for them. I watched a lot of
the game. Man, it's bad basketball. It's just it just

(08:25):
spacing and threes, spacing threes, and you just keep firing,
doesn't matter. Keep firing. You might make them tonight. If
you don't, they'll be the next night. Just keep firing away.
But I thought Harden had moments last night. But you're
still you know, it's gonna obviously take time. How about
we revisit this in mid December and we look at

(08:47):
this and we go, all right, is this going to
work out? The Clippers starting lineup last night had a
combined thirty two All Star games on their resumes. The
last time to go to the Madison Square Garden the
Knicks with at least four starters having five or more
All Star Game selections was two thousand and three. The

(09:08):
Three Lakers Karl Malone had fourteen shock ten All Star appearances,
Gary Payton nine, and Kobe had five.

Speaker 10 (09:18):
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Speaker 2 (09:26):
This is the stant of the day stant of today,
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of the Dan Patrick Show. Joe l Embiid went off
last night forty eight, eleven and six, and then The
Joker had thirty five, fourteen and twelve, another triple double.

(09:47):
He now ranks fourth all time in triple doubles. He's
thirty behind Magic Johnson, who he'll probably catch this year. Uh,
he broke a tie with Lebron and Jason Kidd. Let
that sink in for a little while. With the Joker
a center with these triple doubles, and the key really

(10:09):
is his passing. He's going to score and he's going
to rebound, but the passing, that's the difference there. And
it's an oh, by the way, I'm surprised when he
doesn't have a triple double. I had a couple of
phone calls in here Michael and fort Wayne. Hi, Mike,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (10:26):
Thank you morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call last week.
And I was driving through Ohio and had the opportunity
to spend a good quality hour listening to your podcasts
that you did with Aaron and Chris Calm Down believe
it's called and thoroughly enjoyed that interview. An awful lot.
One thing that I noticed in there you talked an
awful lot about your love for the art of interviewing.

(10:50):
And there are some shows out there that are on podcasts,
TV shows today that will utilize artificial tools during their
intern you to open their guests up and make them
more likely to give candid answers such as eating increasingly
spicy wings or something like that. And I want to
know what you think about that, is the art of

(11:14):
the interview made stronger or weaker by using artificial tools
like that to open people up?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Well, I don't think there are many shows that have
something they lean on or a crutch, and that's a
fun show. I mean it's really about, you know, the
food itself, not the questions to open you up. I
don't know how many other you know, other shows may
provide liquor. I remember Jimmy Kimmel's show many many years
ago when I was out there. He had a bar and,

(11:43):
you know, encouraging you have a drink before you went on,
which I didn't. But for the most part, I don't
know how many shows are leaning on something artificial to
get you to open up. Yeah, I think too.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
You could say that every show, or at least Interviewers
who are care about doing a good.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Interview use tools to some degree.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Like sometimes it looks on the surface like a softball question,
but if you ask somebody, so, what kind of car
are you driving, it's not a softball question. You're loosening
them up to talk about something that they don't want
to talk, like something easy.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh right, Oh, I just but what's the first car
you ever bought?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
It's not necessarily important, but it's a tool to loosen
somebody up to then say, and so when did you
start using steroids?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
WHOA, I didn't see that coming. No, you know what
I mean? Why or do you know the first question
I'm asking Deon Sanders next hour, I alread you know it?
And is it to loosen him up or surprise him
or no? I just think this is the timing of
this is the pertinent question, the right question. But I
ask questions where And Seaton's right, Sometimes you're just trying

(12:50):
to get them to talk a little bit. I want
you to get out of being a coach speak or
athlete speak. You know, maybe it's not a football question.
I remember asking coach Saban. First thing I said was
what were you listening to this? Morning, coming into work
and he starts telling me about music, okay, and then
he talked about playing air guitar at his lake house.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yes he'd And just that has already gotten him out
of his coach speak mind. Yeah, just that like oh
man zz top is my favorite banner, whatever it is,
you know what I mean, It's already gotten him away
from his well, you know, I let's use a good
opponent and we gotta beat the blood on nil.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But imagine this, though the people I interview are interviewed
more than anybody else in America. Deon Sanders interviewed all
the time, Nick Saban all the time. If you're having
them on, how do I get you out of what
is their comfort zone? Because if they're just going to

(13:50):
give coach speak, then there's no reason to have them on.
I want them to give me something and have a
conversation with them. And if I was, if I sat
down with Nick Saban, and it wouldn't be all football questions,
it would be probably about life or dion, it would
be something more than just football. So why not if
you have the time, the luxury, and that's really the key.

(14:14):
If I have ten minutes and I can't get something
out of somebody, then it's on me. But you know,
give me an hour. I can get a whole lot
out of people. But I don't have that luxury here.
But if that show about hot Wings is really about
you know how spicy it is and great, I don't care.

(14:34):
I mean, I'm not tuning in to go oh, let
me see. Is this sixty minutes worthy? No, it's entertainment.
And plus, everybody has their own approach to these things.
My approach is different than most people. But I do
care about the person I'm interviewing, and that's where you start,
because then it's not about your questions about their answers.

(14:55):
And that's always been my approach. But hey, whatever works
for you, That's what I always say. Kurtin Pennsylvania. Then
we'll take a break. Hi Kurt, how are you today?

Speaker 12 (15:08):
Yes, Dan, thank you for taking my call. A big fan,
first time caller. I have a follow up advice for
the father of the bride. And my daughter got married
a month ago in Chicago and my speech was four minutes.

(15:28):
But here's how I opened up. I took a quote
directly from a sports documentary, the subject being Mike Veck
not Mike Mick Mike vec son of Bill Beck, and
he was the owner of the White Sox. He said,

(15:48):
being a father, everyone can relate to this. A girl
comes up to you, shows you her hand, and before
you can before he can blink in eye, she reaches
into your chest cavity, pulls your heart out, shows it
to you and says you probably think this belongs to you,

(16:12):
but you're wrong. This is mine and she's totally right.
And that's how I opened up. And it was a killer.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, you're having a hard time getting through this. I
can't imagine what it was like a month ago getting
through this. No, I was good, then good, good for you.

Speaker 12 (16:30):
Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm nervous.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Oh okay, but not then you're more nervous now. I
watched the Mike Veck documentary and it's wonderful and he
talks about losing his daughter and his daughter was there
with him when he's trying to revitalize his career in
minor league baseball, and his daughter was always there with him,
and then you know, she died. I think she might

(16:55):
have been thirty years of age. But he does talk
about that that your heart doesn't belong to you. It
belongs to your daughter, all right? Who all right, take
a break. Let's talk some football, Okay, Tim Houselbank, Johnn's
coming up here in a little bit back after this
Dan Patrick show.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
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last time. He was on former NFL Quarterback and works
for the Mothership on the also the ACC Network.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
He will be in Chapel Hill. It's Duke of North
Carolina coming up this Saturday on the ACC Network. Let
me start with last night here. Let's start with the Jets.
Can you pinpoint one major problem with this team? Like,
what's the one that stands out?

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Listen?

Speaker 13 (17:57):
I try not to be crazy off vious, look, I
mean the quarterback is the major issue.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's just surprising to me.

Speaker 13 (18:05):
I think I see guys play sometimes down and it's
like they're unlocked, they're free, they're you know, they're not
worried about making mistakes, and I just feel like there's
an element sometimes when you watch other guys that they're
just paralyzed like, I know they're better players than what
we see. I know they're better athletes than what we see.

(18:26):
But there's just something whether like the building or the
game plan or whatever it is, has just made them
feel like, all right, they just want me to not
screw up, Like that's.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
What they want me to not do. And I think
when you do that just not as good.

Speaker 13 (18:39):
Like just there's an element of being, you know, relaxed
and confident, and I think you know, there's a care
free to be able to play the position.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Sometimes I think it.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Is important, But when you go to the line of
scrimmage and you're thinking about blocking assignments, you're thinking about
the pass rush. I mean he's forced to think about
other things. I don't know if he can have tunnel
vision when he goes up there and goes, hey, it's
just like when I was at BYU, I don't have
to worry about anything. I can freelance. He doesn't have
that opportunity with as bad as that offensive line is, yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
No, I mean, listen, that's fair past protection. We just
look around the league.

Speaker 13 (19:15):
Guys that play well oftentimes it's because that week like
they've got a clean pocket. I mean, there's just about
everybody that's playing in the league's going to do better
in that environment. I think what I'm more referring to
is like, look, you look at some of these quarterbacks
that go out there.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'll give you the kid in Chicago, Bejit this week.
I thought there was a.

Speaker 13 (19:36):
Care freeness to how he played, like which surprised me
a little bit based on how he struggled the week before.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I think you look at Josh.

Speaker 13 (19:44):
Dobbs and like, you come into that environment, it's like, listen, man,
Like I'm not going to bog myself down and slow
myself down by thinking about all the.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Bad things that might happen. Like there's an element of
cutting it loose.

Speaker 13 (19:58):
And I'm not saying reckless, but I think there's an
element of guys just looking hesitant at times.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
I just I feel like you see that a little
bit with.

Speaker 13 (20:08):
Zach and I think because of the oldligned because of
just some of the things they're dealing with, Like, you
need him, you need his athleticism and his ability to
be an asset, not something that doesn't shine through.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
What is the major motivation for Aaron Rodgers to try
to come back this year?

Speaker 13 (20:30):
Lit'sten I think you just run out of time age,
but injury, like an appreciation for how old he is,
what he's been through in his career, and then you know, look,
I think everybody that has had success like he's had
or close to it, like there's this chip, right, that
competitiveness that's different than other players. Like there are plenty

(20:51):
of people like, look, I'm making a lot of money,
I'm going to get better. I'll see you next year.
But I think there's an element of, look, I just
did something that no one else is done. I think
really really great players are motivated by.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Things like that.

Speaker 13 (21:06):
So yeah, I think that those are probably the things
the factor into him the most.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Feels like he wants to prove something modern medicine wise,
like that's really important. That's why he's out there throwing
the football. He wants you to see. He wants you
to chronicle this, he wants this to go viral. And look,
you know, whatever his interpretation of modern medicine is and
what he's pushing and what he believes in good for him,
because if it works for him, that's all that matters.

(21:35):
It feels like that might be at the front of
this that I want to get back. I don't know
if he can play and help them, if he should
come back and play, But it feels like there's a
couple of different motivations, at least you know, from the
outside looking in.

Speaker 13 (21:51):
Yeah, and listen, I think you know we're probably both
speculating that that be the case. But how about this,
Like I don't disagree with you. So think about great
players and that when Adrian Peterson came back from his
ACL injury and it was six months, what did we do?
Look at Adrian Peterson, This guy's not human. It's coming
back from that injury after six months. And then next thing,
you know, it's like Wes Welker does his ACL, Like

(22:13):
oh how fast.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Is Wes coming back?

Speaker 13 (22:15):
And now all of a sudden, like that's changed the
game where we go god towards ACL, Like so what man,
Like six months, he's going to be better than he
was before, and like that doesn't happen with like the
journeyman player, Like that's not the but it's the great
player that does it. And now all of a sudden
he changes everyone's expectation for it. So look, I think

(22:37):
you're right, you know, like only Aaron would really be
able to tell us. But like if he changes the
game in terms of tearing your achilles and how you
come back, that's a big deal to someone like him.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I bet Daniel Jones tearing his ACL. What do you
let me put you in the front office with the Giants?
What are you going to do with the quarterbacking position?

Speaker 13 (23:00):
Yeah, look, I think you need to Like, I don't
think they've had their guy. I think the contract this year,
like I just haven't felt that way. Look, I think
the success last year was a little bit of fools gold.
I think Daniel's tough and competitive and all that, and
I have a ton of respect for a guy that
tears his ACL and I think tries to keep playing

(23:22):
not knowing how badly you hurt himself. Like everyone's got
to understand, Like that's the type of competitors that's great.
But I know this, Like you mentioned the game I
have this weekend. I know a lot of people talk
about Caleb Williams. Drake May is to me about as
perfect of a prospect that I have ever seen in
fifteen years at ESPN. Like, like, there are good quarterbacks

(23:44):
coming out in this draft, you're gonna have a bad team.
I understand you know, you re signed Daniel Jones to
a you know, a big contract last year and all that.
I think, if you're in the market for one of
these guys that I believe he's going to be really,
really good, I think you got to get involved in
that game.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
And Drake May, for me, damn would be at the
top of the west.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Tim Hasselbeki, ESPNACC Football Analysts, former NFL quarterback. Let me
stay on that because I think Orlovsky, we've had a
couple of analysts who have been it felt like it
we moved away from Caleb Williams because we wanted to
bring another quarterbacks into the conversation. And then I wondered,
Michael Pennix Junior and Caleb uh, you know, is it

(24:26):
one A, one B, one C in your opinion with
these quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Here's what I think.

Speaker 13 (24:33):
I think in the evaluation process of these guys, well,
first off, all three of them ridiculously talented, right, and
I think a lot of people are gonna say, yeah,
this guy's good enough, productive enough, projects enough to be
a first rounder. I think when people sit down and
talk to Drake May, I think that it's gonna.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Look like there's nothing wrong with them.

Speaker 13 (24:53):
I think when you talk through, he's gonna be a
better probe than college player. His size, his athlete edicism,
the way he moves like he to me is already
like we'll be in a class of just physically talented.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
And then also like like.

Speaker 13 (25:09):
Uh size ability, how he sees things to Herbert and
Mahomes and Josh Allen, those guys that are like every
bit of you know six four to six six run
crazy see it well, you know, insanely competitive, like he's
gonna beat like that. He's checking all of those boxes.

(25:29):
And then he's just a young kid still that I
think is going to get better in the pros when
you can control the game because of how smart he is.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So I'm going to give you the number one pick, Tim, Tim,
you're the Cardinals, You're on the clock.

Speaker 14 (25:43):
I'm taking them taking Drake May. Yeah, okay, that's a
quick answer. Yea, yeah, So you know I listen, I
think that. Look, I haven't because I do ACC games.
Then you know obviously you know I haven't had a
Washington game.

Speaker 13 (26:00):
I haven't had an SC game. But you know I'm
watching the stuff like everybody else. I just know that,
you know from talking to people and like seeing what
he's like in the building and just his competitive nature
combined with his ability, like he does.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Things that other guys just don't do. That I think
really translates to the to the next level.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Let me ask you a couple of NFL questions. How
does Baltimore physically dominate? You know, they dominated the Lions
and they dominated Seattle. Those are teams that I wouldn't
think would be physically dominated. What is it that Baltimore
is doing and what makes them a sneaky Super Bowl pick?

Speaker 13 (26:43):
Yeah, I mean I think defensively, we all would probably
agree that they've got an aggressive physical front, so like,
look that they're not going to get bullied by anybody
on that side of the ball. And then I think offensively,
you know, as much as we've talked about this passing
game is.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Going to be different, and I think that there are
elements of.

Speaker 13 (27:03):
You know, in the pocket passing that have definitely improved
because of the nature of what they can do offensively
with their personnel, meaning, look the guys up front, their
tight end, their fullback, the backs that they have, and
then the threat of what the quarterback can do giving
you a number count advantage in the run game, Like
run game is numbers in angles, you know, and so

(27:27):
they get extra elements of that because of their quarterback.
That helps you be physical. And then they've done a
good job with some of the passing game stuff off
of it. So I think that that is what makes
them special, what makes them a team that could be
Kansas City, could be Miami, could be any.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Of these other teams in the AFC on the way
to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Who do you have a better sense of who they are?
The Dolphins or the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I think I have a better sense of who the
Dolphins are than the Cowboys. And I will say this,
like I actually came away Sunday night more impressed with
Dallas than less impressed. Like I think it was easy
to be like, hey, I'm gonna focus on this last
seventy seconds of the football game and be like, oh, Dallas,
what a disaster. But really I was like, I saw

(28:16):
a quarterback play extremely well. I thought Dak did a
good job running when you need to run. He certainly
passed the ball extremely well.

Speaker 13 (28:23):
I thought that the defense did a good job of
not allowing Philadelphia to run the football. Like you know,
there are obviously elements that that game could have been different.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
So I do think I'm encouraged by Dallas.

Speaker 13 (28:35):
But what I do know about like, I know there's
an identity in Miami like of what they want to do,
how they want to do things, and I think that
it takes a lot for them to get away from that, Whereas,
like I feel like with Dallas, you could get a
game where you know, Pollard has twenty eight carries, and
then you could get a game where you're six carries. Like,

(28:56):
I just don't think that you're that unsure about what
you might see from.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
My You played under Andy Reid and Philly you played
under Steve Spurry in Washington. What's the what's the biggest
difference between those two.

Speaker 13 (29:11):
Well, I would say that the one constant that what
constant is like I think both guys actually did a
great job of having you be like relaxed, talking about
quarterbacks getting paralyzed and stuff like Kylink coach Prayer because
he played the position, you know, he was great at
getting guys open. He wanted you to be relaxed. Andy
does the same exact thing, you know. I just would

(29:34):
say probably the biggest thing with Andy is even though
he is relaxed, like there's no stone unturned. Like the
level of detail for a guy that's very relaxed that
keeps team meetings really short, I think is remarkable. That's
a really hard balance of not being somebody that's like, hey,
you know, don't forget to do this, but don't forget

(29:55):
to do that, and oh yeah, the safety side and
remember we're checking this, like and all of a sudden,
like you can paralyze somebody like he's details but also relaxed,
you know. I think that's that's really cool. So hey,
I want to do this. I was listening to the
show dam and I don't. I don't, I can't. I
can't get off this segment without being like, thank you

(30:16):
for your your your advice on you know, father of
the bride speeches, groomsman's speeches like I was at you know,
I've been at so many weddings. I left one, uh
not a alonger with my brother and it was like, hey, listen,
there should be a college class on.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
On rehearsal dinner speeches.

Speaker 13 (30:38):
Or wedding speeches, Like we don't never need to hear
about the time that like you were nearly arrested after
the Limp Biscuit concert, Like we don't need that, Like,
now's not the time, like give the compliment, like it's okay, right,
let's go.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Have you ever given a speech, best man speech.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
I've given the best man speech. Brother wedding, friend's wedding.
I have a daughter who's in high school, so I'm
not there yet. But like I heard you talking about,
like where you'll be one time with that, Like listen,
I'm showering with praise at that point like.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
That, like I'm not. I'm not going in. It's not
the time to to give a hard time.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You didn't give me your favorite Spurrier story. You have
to have a few of those.

Speaker 13 (31:27):
I have a very good Spurrier story. We were we
were playing the Giants.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
I don't know if I told this for him.

Speaker 13 (31:35):
We're playing the Giants and it snowed like five inches
uh in New York the night before, so they plow
the field before the game, but it's freezing cold, and
and then you know, it's the second half and it's
freezing out still, and I remember, I'm I'm sitting.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
On the bench.

Speaker 13 (31:52):
You know, they got the heaters coming out of them,
and I'm right next to Lavernia Schools and coach Spurrier
comes over to us and our defense is on the field.
It's like third down and and we're freezing, and he's
facing the two of us and he's freezing.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
And LC looks up at him and he's like, hey, coach,
and he kind of moves over and.

Speaker 13 (32:10):
He's like you just sit down, and he's like, oh, LC,
I wish that I could.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I wish he was different. He was different. He didn't
care about the defense. Did he even know the guy's
names on the defense there in Washington?

Speaker 5 (32:29):
I'm sure he knew the names.

Speaker 13 (32:30):
I'll say this, and I know you know that time
didn't work out, but I feel like, you know, there's something.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
I'll learn from any good coach. He obviously is a
really really good coach.

Speaker 13 (32:41):
And there are a lot of things I learned from him.
And listen, every every every level is different, every situation
is different. But at least for me, here's a lot
of fun for me to play for him.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Safe travels down there to North Carolina. Thanks for joining
us again, Tim, Tim Hasselbeck ESPN also working for the ACC.
Former NFL quarterback He's got duke in North Carolina Tim's
in love. Tim's in love with Drake May. We had
Ryan Leaf who said, I'm taking Michael Pennix Junior. I

(33:18):
think Orlovsky said I'm taking Drake May, Tim Hasselbeck, I'm
taking Drake May.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, Paul I would say that four months ago, Caleb
Williams was one of the biggest sure things, number one
draft picks of our lifetime. I mean that it's hard
to remember that, but for there wasn't even a topic
four months ago. He would have been better off almost
not playing this year, being injured with this stock or something.
I don't know what's going on, but I don't know
if this is a media's opinion or NFL opinion, but
it's it's changed a lot.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, and I don't I think he's more valuable this
year to his team than he was last year. I
think he's been asked to do more, tried to do more,
and that defense didn't help out. It feels like Drake May, though,
has not been in the spotlight, and when you're in
the spotlight, more people are going to pick pick you apart.
And I think that's what's happened with Caleb Williams, that

(34:06):
there may be we've seen this, but man, what he
does is special. And Michael Pennix is really talented too.
His ball placement, I mean, that's all next level stuff.
Drake May, I mean bo Nix is going to be
in the mix. I don't know where Dion sun Shoulder Sanders.
Probably end of the first round, although I found it

(34:28):
strange where milk kiper after Shouldre Sanders had a couple
of big games, Oh, he's going to be a first
round pick. Well was he a first round pick at
Jackson State or because he looked good against Nebraska and TCU,
and is he still a first round pick? I got
everybody jumped on the Colorado bandwagon, like, oh my god,
they're going to compete for a national championship. Should Ear Sanders,

(34:48):
you know, think Heisman Cannon, like you'll slow down with
all of this. And it's almost like the media expectations
got too high after TCU that Colorado was chasing that
and still chasing them. So when they lose these games
like last weekend, like, I'm not surprised because they're not
a good team. They're an interesting team, they're not a

(35:10):
good team, consistent team, And I'll talk to Dion about
that they just don't have, you know, the military. You know,
it's like having the Army. You got the Air Force
and the Navy. They need the Army there as well
to help them. All Right, we'll take a break back
after this.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
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Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 15 (35:35):
He's Mike Krmen, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a brand
new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice
a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with
new episodes to not only look back at what happened,
what you need to do at that minute, and also
look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
That's right, Dan.

Speaker 10 (35:55):
Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find
the pickups to turbot boost your fan fantasy lineup, sit starts,
fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate
the competition.

Speaker 15 (36:06):
Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmon and
me Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts at
wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Don't look now, but the Minnesota Timberwolves might be a
sneaky good team this year. Case you're wondering, the Timberwolves
beat the Celtics in a six day span. They have
defeated the Nuggets and the Celtics. Just throwing it out there,
and Anthony Edwards is legit. I just don't know about

(36:36):
supporting cast there, but do like him a lot, Yes.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Paul early NBA standings, it's only what five six games?
Which team is leading the entire entire league in win
differential win point differential? Like they're winning the games by
the most amount of points they're averaging their every average
win is a fourteen point five result of Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Oh uh, it is a little too early. Six games. Yeah,
Lakers lost again, just throwing that out there, like Anthony
Davis got hurt again. There's a tend s right now? Literally? Yeah.
How many How many games is Ion Williamson played back

(37:21):
to back? Is he up to two? Now? What did
we say we had to play at least ten in
a row before we were going to comment on the Pelicans.
I think he played like four in a row and
then missed a game, and now it's two in a row.
Should we start a counter going or is ion consecutive.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
It's like at a workplace, consecutive days without an accident.
They always put that sign up.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Oh shit, Auto in La, Hi, Auto, what do you
have for me today?

Speaker 13 (37:45):
Hi?

Speaker 7 (37:46):
Hey guys, how are you doing?

Speaker 15 (37:49):
Five?

Speaker 12 (37:49):
Ten, two point fifty.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Lower body like a young Jerome Bettis. I look, I'm
from Atlanta, but I live in LA. I have season
tickets to the Chargers. We should have fired Britain State
last year. Man, it's just watching this watching this team,
it's just really bad. There's just wasting. Justin Herbert's talent.

(38:14):
Brandis Davids supposed to be a defensive guru. The defense
is terrible. Unlike last night. It looked like the eighty
five Bears last night against the Jets.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
But wait, you're four and four. You just won the game. Otto,
are you just the Jets? Okay, but the same Jets
who beat the Eagles?

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Right, And that was more of a.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I know what you're the Auto.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Thank you for the phone call. I know what you're doing.
You don't want to be heard at the end of
the season. You're preparing for the worst. Chargers are four
and four. You host Detroit at green Bay, host Baltimore
at New England host Denver at the Raiders. What if
you win for those games? Three of those games, you've
always been Charger. Yeah, yes, much to my detriment. You

(39:03):
know what it is. It's the uniforms. I think even
when the Chargers disappoint you, when they don't play well,
you still go, Man, those are great uniforms. Do we
do that with any other franchise where we go, God.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
There's are great uniforms North Carolina Football.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, they disappoint yeah, man, they look nice. Yeah. It's like,
you know, if you're gonna have style points when you lose,
it always feels like the Chargers. God, they look sharp.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
The colors along with the bolt and the number on
the helmet.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Fire, they look like a winning franchise. Yeah. Yeah. Baker
and Bozeman, Hi Bake, gentlemen, Good morning Fritzy.

Speaker 9 (39:46):
So Danny, you know you you are one of the
most innate, gifted interviewers in my experience. You and Mark
Merrin are the two that have the ability to make
people feel like they've known you forever. And it's a gifty.
I say all of that to say, the last thing
you need is my suggestion of a question for Deon Sanders,
I would love you, But I do have a question

(40:08):
that I would love to hear Dion address because and
I think at the end in terms of you know,
last last week when Josh Daniels was terminated, you said,
you know, people can be a good assistant coach, or
they can you know, be be a good coordinator. I
mean they're going to be a good head coach because
as a head coach you need to be a CEO.
I think Dion Dion is a great CEO from what

(40:30):
he's demonstrated at Colorado. And so my point is I
think down the road, he's down the road. If he
goes to the pros, people naturally would think of him
with the Cowboys. I can't imagine him wanting to be
the coach for Jerry Jones, who has the history of micromanaging.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I agree, I agree, and I you know, I got
to figure out how to broach the topic with Dion
about coaching in the NFL. But and thank you for
the comparison. Mark Maron does a wonderful job on this podcast.
So I know Join is coming up next hour and
we'll get to more phone calls as well. I think
we'll have a fresh poll question for you as well.

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