May 9, 2025 • 41 mins
The Pirates fired their manager early in the season and Dan weighs in on the state of baseball spending and why this happened. Broadcaster Bob Costas stops by to share stories from his time in sports. Pablo Torre of "Pablo Torre Finds Out" stops by to discuss the ever-evolving story of Bill Belichick and his girlfriend Jordon Hudson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two on this speed Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Gang's all here, ready to go. King of Comedy, Fritzie,
You got Marvin Paullie Seaton. Paulie is sporting an eye
patch here, and uh is this a is this a new.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Look for you? It's just a one day or a
one day or little treatment last night. I was a procedure.
I actually yes, it was not surgery.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
I had a little procedure last night.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
And the hotlights are a little.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Okay, sporting the eye patch here becoming all right, very
pirate of you, Yeah, like a plaid pirate. By the way,
the Pirates fired their manager. His name is Derek Shelton.
You might not be aware of his name, but I
think he'd been there six years. I don't know what
they expect. You know, you have a smaller market and
(00:51):
you have an owner wants to turn a profit. Roster's
not great. You got a couple of players who are
going to be really good for somebody else. But if
you look at what the Pirates, they had sixty one,
sixty two, seventy six, seventy six wins and then now
tracking towards a fifty one win season.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
They got a couple of players.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You've got Paul's schemes on there, but I don't know
what you expect. I'm trying to think the last time
that they finished better than five hundred. When's the last
time they made the playoffs. They don't even come close
to finishing over five hundred. The Pirates have won eighty
games in a season four times since nineteen ninety two.
(01:37):
Only the Royals have compiled more losses in the twenty
first century.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Ow stell of a day, stan a day, stall of
a day.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Stella a day.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
This is the style of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't think ownership has signed a free agent to
a multi year contract since December of twenty seventeen. You know,
they can develop players, but it's not a destination for
free agents, and you just don't have enough good players there.
I can't say the team underperformed. I don't know if
(02:21):
they're good enough to perform. And I don't know what
he's supposed to do in a situation like this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, the Pirates have made the playoffs again
three times since nineteen ninety two. Here's a thought, Paul Skiings. Now,
I know he's good for publicity and attendance one out
of every five games. What do you trade Paul Skiings
early while he's max value and redo your whole farm,
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your whole farm club and have a chance to have
a young base of talent to maybe score one of
those Florida Marlins type runs. I can't think any other way.
Their competitive.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I don't know what's important to ownership there.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Do you want to win? Do you want to spend money?
Do you want to spend more money than you're comfortable
spending it? You know, it's such a great baseball city,
that ballpark's great views are great, and you go to
downtown walk across the bridge. Uniforms, I mean they they
they and I look, I grew up hating the Pirates
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because they were so great in the seventies. That could
pretty much run down the starting lineup with Manny Sanghian
and Al Oliver and Roberto Clementi and Willie Stargel, Bob
Robertson and Gene Alley, Rennie Stennett, Bob Veal, John Candelaria
Kent to Colvey, I mean they who is it Bob Moose?
(03:51):
Was he another picture on that team. Dave Justy I
think was the closer there. You know, they had great
baseball players and it was a great baseball but you know,
it's the haves and the have nots. You almost should
separate and say, all right, if you're only going to
spend this amount of money, then you're going to be
playing in this league. You know, maybe you have relegation,
(04:13):
maybe maybe there's a group that you have. These are
the these are the teams that are in Triple A
ish and then you have you know, maybe somebody is
really good and they win and then they can move
up and then somebody moves down.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Maybe you have something like that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But I don't know what you expect out of some
of these smaller markets, mid market teams. And I don't
know if there's full disclosure on what what are you spending,
how much you're making. That's what I always want to know.
And I always said with certain organizations and the Cincinnati Bengals,
there should be a minimum spend, like you must spend
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at least this. And they're owners, they're fine, they're fine
owning a team. The value goes up, maybe you're not
winning anything and you're getting a profit. But pirates have
fired their manager. It's been a while since we've had
somebody fired this soon. I think it was the Cincinnati
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Reds maybe who fired their manager, like eighteen or nineteen
games in a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
All right, you got the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
They take Game two and the series now goes back
to Golden State. The calves at the Pacers tonight, thunder
at the Nuggets. Poll question for hour two is going
to be what Seaton. By the way, good morning if
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hundred cities to carry the program.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
All right, Seaton, we.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Got up there right now. Whose career do you want?
Spike Lee, Bob Costas, Mark Messier. Okay, let's guess the results.
Guess the results, Spike Lee, Bob Costas, Mark Messia.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm going to say, as Todd likes to do, I'm
going to say, Tod, do you say he is Bob
costas Spike Lee, Mark Messier?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
That's your order? Yeah, why do you think Bob Costas? First?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think people can look at that and go, that's
a good job. You know, he's got to cover all
these events. You get to wear suit and tie your
hair's combs. Yeah, it seems easy. Yeah, longevity. So I'd say,
I'd say Bob Costas. Bob Costas is forty seven percent
of the vote right now. Okay, that's a shockingly high
(06:42):
number to me.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Okay, Mark Messier is in second, but very close him,
Him and Spike Lee are basically tied at second. Okay,
but Costas running away with it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, but I think people look at that and go
I would want to do that job, or I could
do that job. And he's been everywhere on everything. And
he'll be on the show coming up in about fifteen
minutes from he will, Yes, he will, he will, Yes,
he will. By the way, if you miss Spike Lee,
he was great first hour. He had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Ready to go.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Saturday Afternoon Nicks Celtics Chris and Syracuse.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (07:18):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (07:18):
Thanks Dan?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Hey, a couple of comments off your Spike Lee interview.
I thought it was a great question on second best
sequel on the movies of all time besides behind Godfather
too and I got to go Rocky to and you know,
I always wondered why in Jungle fever. Why Spike went
with Leslie Snipes over his guy Denzel, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't know if there was some kind of scheduling
issue with Denzel.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He's picked Denzel for what five movies, including the latest
one coming out this August.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Have a couple more high end sequels. Terminator two, Judgment
Day is as good or better than the first, right there. Aliens,
the sequel to Alien. Remember Sigourney, we were in that
big thing beating up the bad guy.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah, that's pretty great too. Those are pretty high end sequel.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Not a sequel. Guy mostly bad. Yeah, I don't and
I get it, you.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Know, Hollywood lacks creativity and they don't want to take chances,
and they're like, all right, that made this kind of money,
let's do it again.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Come up with a different script. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
I don't know if it counts as a sequel because
it's kind of the next in the story. Empire Strikes Back.
Star Wars is a pretty great one. Okay, that's a
really good one. But I don't know if it's Those
are kind of it's a story that you tell, you know,
so I have to see the first one. I guess
to appreciate the second one.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You haven't seen either Star Wars movie. No, it's definitely
too late to do that.
Speaker 11 (08:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It is, it is, it is, It doesn't it's not
going to hit. It doesn't hold up. No, okay, no, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 12 (08:59):
For John Fever dens at what was considered, but Spike
went with Wesley Snipes and Spike Lee asked Martin Scorsese
to be in the film, but he declined, and Marissa
Tome turned down the role of Angie Tucci, the female lead,
because of her scheduling conflicts with a little movie called
My Cousin Vinnie could call.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You know, the Bourne movies never trailed off. They have
some consistency.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I can't remember all the names of them, the Bourne
identity afterwards, but they stayed pretty steady for all those sequents.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It was a great movie. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The Bummer is the Jeremy Renner one, and Jeremy Renner
is a great actor, but he's not born He's not
Jason Bourne.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Yeah, they should have had it be like somebody else,
but also part of tread Stone.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yes, you know, once again, that movie's on any of
the movie Boorne identity movies and I'm watching I don't
care where it is. Be right at the end, right
at the beginning, right in the middle, doesn't matter. Always great.
Let me see Lucas in Texas. I Luke, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Hey Dan, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
You know, as you've already mentioned in your Spike Lee interview,
we have a new pope, an American pope, and I've
got a couple of quick things for you. A question
and an observation. First, my question somewhat rhetorical, but how
long until Fritzy inappropriately reaches out to the Vatican to
talk about something related to Villanova's sports. That's my first
one and my second one. This is more of an observation.
(10:27):
It was really a cool moment to see Poco Leo
walk out yesterday as the cheers of the audience. What
was a little unexpected, And Marvin, you'll appreciate this is
that if you play it back, you can actually hear
a small crowd of Americans waving flags and singing Roughrider
anthem by DMX. So I think we all know what
our song is on the international stage now whenever we
get a big win.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
So let's go boys.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, that was a big deal American pope, Chicago based
and White Sox fan, Jordans fan. I think there were
memes that were out there with the Jordan logo, the
jump man on his robe. Fritzie did come up with
a Pope Leo the fourteenth song, ty do you want
(11:12):
to explain this?
Speaker 13 (11:13):
I was just thinking about, you know, the pope and
the guy Electoris, think of song parodies and things like that,
and I'm like, you know what, there was Duran Durant's Rio.
Speaker 12 (11:21):
Back in I think nineteen eighty two. I know that
was forty three years ago.
Speaker 13 (11:24):
I don't want to skew too old. And I singing
a couple of lines in my head while I was
like brushing my teeth, and I thought I had a
little something that I can kind of put together with
Pope Leo off of Rio, big hit song by Duran Durant.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Okay, okay, I'm ready, let's go. Let's see what you got.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
His name is.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Leo and he wears the paper crown.
Speaker 14 (11:45):
He's bringing peace and love all through a Roman town
and when he prays with us, we're filled with so
much hope on Leo Leo.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yes, we have a brand pope.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's from Chicago.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Put him in the owner's box.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
He'll bless the copies, Bud. He really loves the sucks.
Speaker 15 (12:12):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
The Pope won't quit until his work is done. He
may be the fourteenth, but to us he's number one.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, respectful, I think I know the answer, but I'm
still gonna ask it for the audience. Have you reached
out to the Vatican to have Pope Leo join it?
Speaker 13 (12:34):
It's funny that that was mentioned, because late last night,
before he went to bed, I said, I wonder how
many steps it would take to actually get the Pope
on the show, and would he be willing to come
on and to a zoom. He's a Chicago guy and
sports fan, and I'm still looking into it. I don't
have any direct contact yet, but there's a press secretary
for the president here and there's got to be a
way to get a message his way. It may take
many many steps, but we're certainly going to give it
(12:56):
a shot. Why not?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (12:57):
How great would that be?
Speaker 10 (12:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
All right? Jonah in Colorado?
Speaker 10 (13:02):
Hey, Jonah, Day's longtime, first time I had five, ten.
Speaker 15 (13:08):
One sixty. I wanted to talk about yesterday you and
the boys. We're talking about some of the greatest songs
are associated with college football teams. And I wanted to say,
y'all miss Dixiel and Delight at Alabama.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well they Alabama's got a couple of them.
Speaker 15 (13:27):
Yeah, but the one we're really known for, the one
you see the you know, cool high videos of.
Speaker 16 (13:31):
That's stick SiO and Delight right after the start of.
Speaker 15 (13:34):
The fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Oh okay, not familiar with that, but thank you, Jonah.
It shows how known they are for it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I guess, Wow, wow, Chemo in Virginia beach, Hi, keem on,
welcome back.
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Hey Danny, Oh gosh, I can't control my phone, and
thanks for calling. And to grass funny, I mean, because
you want Spike you know, that was just that's just
classic good Danny Patrick stuff. And then and I can't
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believe the pole question was so perfect, but I'm I'm
confused about your answer. Spike is a man all the accolades.
And then we all want to be Moose, right, we
got to be Moose. So that leads us to who
is the last Danny? When you agreet just you give
(14:31):
him hello, loser.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Thank you. Kima.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now that's what he calls me when I didn't win
the Sports Emmy. Hello loser.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, but you know what's it?
Speaker 17 (14:43):
Give us a of it? Dan Quizybot and Emma and
uh it's Friday?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Sorry? Wow? Did I mention what we're having for meat Friday?
A classic combo? Yeah? I would never put these two together.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Classic combo, A jumbo crab cake, sandwich, smoke, Turkey clubs,
Surf and Turf and Coleslaw classic.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Who is it better than we do?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Okay, which are you more excited about?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm gonna say the smoke Turkey Club? Me too, Me too?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, Todd, what about you? I'm going Turkey Club Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Paul crab Cake Yeah, Marmon crab Cakes Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm not possible hot take not a big crabcake guy,
crab Tree. I was talking about you, crab Tree.
Speaker 18 (15:55):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Classic this talking about you, Cramtree.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
All right, let me come on, let's go clean up
our app And it was wait a wee as we're
gonna take a break.
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We're back after this.
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Speaker 11 (18:05):
I'm good, Dan, and rest assured I will not make
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from this appearance. Okay, they do great stuff there. Not
to belabor it. You could actually see someone in conversation
with Larry David or Paul Simon, that kind of thing.
And now I guess they've dipped down in rank. They
didn't have anybody else for Mother's Day night, so it's
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made this time.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Pirates have fired their manager. Yeah, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Could you do a two tiered system and maybe have
and it's the haves and the have nots. Could you
do relegation maybe where you know, bottom half team, maybe
they move up? Or what I mean, what are you
supposed to do in Pittsburgh, once great baseball town?
Speaker 10 (18:48):
You know?
Speaker 11 (18:48):
The only thing that brings to mind that would be comparable.
Remember I'm old enough to remember you were a younger child,
if you were here at all. But in nineteen sixty
seven or whatever it was, when the NA expanded, you
had the original six and all the expansion teams went
into one division six and six and that actually sparked
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a hockey craze in Saint Louis because the Blues were
the worst of that second I'm sorry, the best of
that second division. And they went to the Stanley Cup
finals twice and acquitted themselves well even though they lost.
So that's the only comparable thing I can think of.
But here, I think is the real answer. If you're
the Pittsburgh Pirates and if you're a long suffering fan,
and then you're right. They have a great baseball history,
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they have one of the best ballparks in the major leagues,
and they flounder constantly. Think about this though, Dan there
are ten teams in the two central divisions in the
major leagues. Only one of them is in the top
half of payrolls. That's the Cubs at tenth. Next is
the Tigers at seven teams. Half of the six playoff
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teams last year in the American League came from the
al Central, the Tigers, the Royals, and the Guardians and
the Twins, who have now had the trap door open
on them. But the Twins were barely outside that group.
They were alive in the last week other than the Cubs.
In theory, who is going to greatly outspend the Pirates
in the National League Central. One of the things that
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mitigates the admittedly large payroll gaps in the major leagues
is the third wild card. You know, whether you like
it or not, you can say, hey, if we can
win eighty five eighty six games, we got a chance
to get into the postseason. And the history shows even
the Dodgers they lost to the Padres two three years ago,
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they lost to the Diamondbacks, and they were down two
to one to the Padres last year before they rallied
to win the division Series. It's not a guarantee that
the best teams and the highest payroll teams make it
through to the World Series if you can just get
into that tournament. So I don't want to be harsh,
but what's the Pirate's excuse. They play a huge percentage
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of their games within the National League with other teams
that aren't running away from them payroll wise, and you've
got a second and third wild card. You don't have
an excuse to get this bad this consistently for this long.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, and I don't know what you know, Derek Shelton
was supposed to do. You know, yeah, you do have
a couple of players, and we tend to look at
these teams. Some of these teams, we go, point, who's
he going to be with his next contract? You know,
Paul Skins is not going to retire at Pittsburgh Pirate,
which now is not it's a shame, but you know,
that's just modern day baseball here.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 15 (21:34):
You know.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
On the other hand, if Derek Shelton was lucky enough
to have management like the Colorado Rockies have. And this
is not a knock on Bud Black at all. Bud
Black is a very respected baseball guy as a pitching
coach and as a manager and he had the Rockies
in the playoffs several years ago. But they start out
with no chance. They leave spring training with no chance.
But they don't have the benefit, if you want to
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call it that, of being in a weaker division. They're
in a division where the other four teams vary from
good to very very good, and they're playing a huge
number of their games in that division and they're like
one hundred and eighty games out. Even though it's only
one two game season.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
They got six wins so far.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, I was wondering about the timing of show, Hey,
Otani coming back to pitch and if if you're the Dodgers,
you don't want to push this, And if you're Otani,
I know that that's your identity, but still, I mean
there's a real risk here. If I'm the Dodgers, I
don't want to lose you as a hitter, and having
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you as a pitcher, I may not need you as
much as a pitcher. But I don't know if Otani's
locked in and says, hey, but this is who I am.
I'm the two way player and I want to continue
to do this.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
I think there is an element to that, and it's
part of what leads him to sign with whatever team
he signs with. Obviously, the Dodgers had the greater financial
wherewith all of them able to structure the deal that worked.
But part of it is I want to do both,
so I don't think they can deny him that. But
they do have this luxury, whatever it is. The Dodgers
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are a great organization, but they have injuries to their
pitching staff every year. Every team does, but they have
them out of all proportion. They'll start out with ten guys,
all of whom could be in at least some team's rotation.
Now four of them are healthy, and even when we
get to October, we're throwing bullpen games in the playoffs.
So I don't know what they're doing with their medical
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staff or their training staff, but at least they have this.
They're so good even in that division that they can
slow walk a lot of guys. Clayton Kershell through like
six to seven perfect endings the other night in the
minor leagues. They're slow walking him back, and who knows,
he may be a reliever for them rather than a starter.
And maybe the answer for Otani is, we don't want
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you to go out there looking to throw six innings,
which is the modern complete game. Maybe we use you
out of the bullpen, and that's the way to do it.
But they have the luxury of knowing they're going to
be in October, be playing in October, and just trying
to pull it all together by then. They don't have
to pull it all together by the All Star break.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Talking to Hall of Fame broadcaster Bob Costas, who haven't
you interviewed or who have you interviewed?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You'd like maybe another sit down with well, you know, the.
Speaker 11 (24:19):
Holy grail has always been Sandy Kofax in sports. Sandy
was always very very gracious to me. I asked him
a couple of times. This goes back more than twenty years,
and he never had someone else make the call. He
always called me back personally and he said, if I
ever do it, I'll do it with you. And after
a while I began to realize I'm at the front
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of a line that never moves. Thanks that, I thought, Sandy.
But he did do one thing with us, and I
thought he might for this specific reason. All Star Game
in Cincinnati a decade ago, and they named them Mount
Rushmore of Living baseball players, and it was Willie Hank
joh Bench and Kofax, And I said, Sandy, if it's
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just the four of you and you're talking amongst yourselves.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Will you do it?
Speaker 11 (25:07):
And he did and he was great in that sit
down anecdotal joking with the guys. You could see they
were energized, and all I had to do was just
toss it out there and then sit back and let
them talk among themselves. So I think Kofax would be
one of the guys in sports. You know Jack Nicholson
who's in the winter of his years now and seldom
(25:27):
appears in public. But Jack Nicholson fascinating guy, enormous star
for thirty forty years. He always said, I don't do
television interviews. I'm a movie star. Leave your house, you
go into a darken theater, you pay your money, the
phone doesn't ring, and you sit there and watch me
on a big screen. Why do I want to be
(25:48):
sitting with Johnny Carson while you're looking through your toes
as you're lying in bed. But I'm not going to
do that. It diminishes the mystique. So the only time
you saw him on television regularly was sitting courtside at
a Laker game. So it brings me to this nineteen
ninety two NBA Finals Portland against the Bulls and Nicholson
is shooting in HAFA on site in Chicago. So he's
(26:12):
Jack Nicholson. He can get good seats. They weren't at
half court. They were on the base line underneath one
of the baskets, and Dick Eversol and Terry o'deola were
the producers. They spot him there and I'm not calling
the games, Marvis calling the games. I'm upstairs at the
old Chicago Stadium to do the pregame and the halftime.
So they say, Bob, do you know Jack Nicholson, Well,
(26:32):
i've met him, I don't know him not. Well, go
down and ask him if he'll come on at halftime.
I'm like, this is the greatest fools errand.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Of all time.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
Don't you know that Johnny Carson just left the Tonight
Show and he wouldn't go on the last book with
Johnny Carson When people were lined up around the block
to make one more appear, go down, you owe it
to us, Go okay? Fine, So I slept myself down
and I wait for the four minute time out and
I walk up behind him Dan, I swear I tap
him on his right shoulder and he turns around like this,
(27:02):
and the first glimpse of him is like the first
time you see him in the shining face. Then he
softens a little bit and he goes, I wish I
could to a decent of a thing. He goes, Oh, hi, Bob, Jack,
just play along. Here they're watching. I'm supposed to ask
you if you'll come home with us, And I swear
(27:22):
this is what he said. Verbata makes up. I'm editing one.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Word, bomby Bobby.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
You're a nice kid and you do good work. How
can I put this no.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
F.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Jack, I'll take that as a no during the rest
of the game. Now, I got a whole ass.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
In time.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
At least he was very respectful.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yes, I told my audience to keep an eye on
this because I think there's something there. When President Trump
got together with Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred and this Pete
Rose situation, it feels like this is something that Donald
Trump wants to happen to at least get Pete on
the ballot. And I think there's other things at play
(28:09):
that the commissioner may want or need from the President
as well. I think Pete's going to get on the
ballot at some point. It feels like, what do you think.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
Two things here? First, of the ballot part, in theory,
they'd have to put him directly into a Veterans committee
unless they change their rule, okay, because anyone who is
more than fifteen years removed from having played can't be
on the ballot. And of course if you were on
the ballot for ten years, then you wait a little
while and they throw you into a veterans committee. Now,
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if they're going to take Pete off the restricted list
or whatever it is, the ineligible list, then in theory
they could also say, wait a minute, he was never
on the writer's ballot. Let's have the writers vote on
it rather than sixteen people in a veterans committee situation.
By the way, if you're going to take Pete off
on that basis, which consider taking shoeless Joe Jackson off
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on that basis He was briefly on the writer's ballot
and didn't make it. But you could put him up
for consideration too. But those are signs to your point.
I don't know the specifics. I haven't talked with Commissioner
Manfred about it. But you know, baseball has an anti
trust exemption. The Trump administration seems quite willing to interpret
(29:26):
things their own way so or to pursue certain legal
actions that others would not. So the anti trust exemption
is important to baseball. It protected them greatly before they
finally Marvin Miller and company finally broke through and got
rid of the reserve clause. But it still has some
value to them. And then who knows. And I'm only
(29:47):
speculating here. I'm not saying it's true. But obviously there
are a great many foreign players in Major League Baseball.
Does Trump's immigration policy perhaps in some way affect their
com and goings. I'm not saying it does, but these
are all things that perhaps Manford and Trump would would
be discussing.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yep, that's how I see it. I think it's going
to happen. At least, you know, Pete posthumously is going
to be on a ballot, whether it's the veterans or
you know, they decide to put him on the regular bound.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
At the writer's bound. Good to talk to you again,
have fun this weekend. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's Bob Costas ninety second Street, y in New York, City.
That'll be seven Eastern coming up this Sunday as Bob
looks back on his forty plus years in the business.
Online in person tickets available at ninety two and why
dot org. When we come back. What's going on with
Bill Belichick's girlfriend at North Carolina? We have some news
(30:46):
about that coming up.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Could be some changes at North Carolina with Bill Belichick
and his girlfriend. We'll have that story for you coming
up here momentarily. Craig and Wisconsin. Hi Craig, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 15 (31:12):
Dan?
Speaker 16 (31:13):
Could you beat Bob Costas in an arm wrestling matchup?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Given the health of my shoulder, maybe not, but I
mean I would certainly try and give it my all.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
I was just.
Speaker 16 (31:29):
Curious, say, I have an idea on how we can
take care of Draymond Green. I think he's an awful
basketball player.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
No, he's a really good basketball player. He just has
control issues.
Speaker 16 (31:49):
Well, I did a Google search for Timitt Washington and
Kirmit Washington is seventy three years old, and I was
thinking possibly fun office Silks, that Minnesota Timberwolves could sign
him on for one game.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Craig Kerman, Washington punched Rudy Tom Johnovich, So I guess
that's what Craig is getting to.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Not funny. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 16 (32:22):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 21 (32:22):
You guys her talking about the pope, and I think
it's time for Gary Doones to town for his sins,
go to confessional because we've had four popes since the
last Cowboys super bull degree.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
All right, thank you to.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
He's Pablo Torri, ESPN commentator, contributor to Around the Horn PTI, PTI,
and Pablo Tory finds out podcast Metal Arc Media, and
apparently he found out a little more than we realized
about what's going on with Bill Belichick and his girlfriend
at North Carolina. Pablo, good to see you. What did
(32:58):
you find out? What did Pablo toy find out? San
Good to be with you. Really good to see you
as well.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I on my show.
Speaker 18 (33:06):
For those not initiated, I take stupid things, sometimes extraordinarily seriously,
and so I spent months of my life in the
Jordan Hudson rabbit hole. I talked to eleven people who
dealt directly with.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Her, and a couple of things.
Speaker 18 (33:22):
Number one is that there was an enormous meeting at
the University of North Carolina where the athletics department had
to have a meeting with the football people and say
that Jordan Hudson cannot be the face of our program anymore.
She cannot be on the field, she cannot be around
the building. She has taken too much when it comes
to the airspace around how people think of the coach,
(33:45):
the greatest coach in football history, arguably who when they
hired him to be the highest paid coach in the history, Well,
forget about any present day North Carolina stats. Just the
highest paid public employee in the state of North Carolina
right now. It was the opposite, right, They had no
idea this was coming. Everybody is now actively worried, including
(34:06):
I can also report members of Bill Belichick's own family
that a thing that takes decades to build reputation premise
on leadership and discretion and privacy and discipline and every
other term, that now feels like it's the opposite of
what his reputation is now in this news cycle, they
feel like that's being destroyed. And it's because he gave power,
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the power to run his new media empire now that
he has been freed from the NFL for the first
time in decades. He gave that to a woman whose
age has actually been misreported a lot, I also learned,
but we can now say is actually today twenty four
years old.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Which bills reaction, any public reaction to this.
Speaker 18 (34:48):
It's hard to discern because she is the person who
is on the emails, on the texts, is often ghostwriting,
so his reaction will be mediated, I believe with her.
I will point out that in New York City, where
I live, on Wednesday, there was a talk that Bill
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gave to promote his book, The book that was disastrously
you could argue non promoted at the CBS Sunday Morning Fiasco.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
He gave a talk and Jordan wasn't there.
Speaker 18 (35:19):
There might be something like a deliberate, if not not
to borrow the terms of like another Hollywood separation, not
quite a conscious uncoupling, but certainly a public difference in
how they are presenting her omnipresence. And yeah, what I
can tell you is that family members of Bill see
this as something that is they have been investigating her
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too for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
If the CBS interview doesn't play out like it did,
do you think there's any change within North Carolina with
her role with Bill.
Speaker 18 (35:54):
The fascinating thing about Belichick is that he has this
inner circle people who have insulated him as best they
can from all of these concerns, right, And so I'm
gonna say, spoiler alert answer to your question is no.
And the reason is because he is a football creature
with a bunch of frankly yes men around him, Matt Patricia,
Josh McDaniels. That's how they were described to me, not
my editorial judgment. And the CBS thing sept Seeped has
(36:19):
some septic but also seeping vibes to it.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
It got inside of his.
Speaker 18 (36:24):
Bubble, right that book the tabloid avalanche happening because she
did something that and you know this, Dan, a SAVVYPR
person doesn't do actually, which is forget that she's on tape,
on camera, on Mike interjecting. And I'm told also that yes,
the reports are true, that there's thirty more minutes of
(36:44):
her interrupting, taking control of an interview that was supposed
to be frankly a puff piece, an extraordinarily positive thing
about this book about his leadership style, which could then
be transferred to non football people.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
That was the premise of it.
Speaker 18 (36:55):
Ironically, that's what opened the floodgates, man, And at that
point it became how do we deal with this? And
at that point lots of people realized, now is our
moment to say what we've been seeing behind the scenes,
which is one of the crazier sagas.
Speaker 15 (37:10):
Man.
Speaker 18 (37:10):
I haven't even got into some of the other stuff here.
If I can just give you one brief anecdote just
to help illustrate the point here. There was a commercial
that Belichick was filming, a seven figure commercial, not the
super Bowl commercial, by the way, which we reported also
Jordan Hudson insinuated herself into by representing herself as his
agent to Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, a thing that
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afflic and Damon still talk about to this day. By
the way, that she was in that commercial, that she
got paid that they negotiated with her for belichick separate commercial,
earlier commercial for one of the podcasts he was doing
seven figure shoots scripted. She shows up, She's not a
person in the public view, no CBS interview. Yet none
of this stuff has happened. She shows up and she
(37:51):
again wants to be in the commercial, and she's talking
about how this would be a hard launch. That's the
relationship term. I've been given a hard launch of their
relationship public announcement, and she says, hold on, I have
an idea. She leaves, some time passes, the shoot actually ends,
the real shoot. She comes back and she's wearing a
yellow polka dot bikini and a sun hat, and she
(38:12):
wants to film a scene where she is by the
pool with Bill trying to get his attention. All this
again very on the nose, the meta and the real.
But that happens, and everybody there is like, what do
we do with this? Like this is Bill Belichick is
not betraying any emotional change. She's just going along with
all of this because that's him. They're realizing, and they
(38:33):
decide we need to do the thing where we tell
her we're shooting a scene. They grab a camera guy
and they proceed to shoot something that I am told
they're not even sure the camera was on. They point
a camera, they have her do something and they say, good, yep,
got it good, and that's just what it's been like.
That was at the beginning of her taking control of
(38:55):
the media empire. Everything from there is sort of flowing
kind of logically once you hear about that.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And I said this after the CBS interview, if Bill
has any hopes of getting back into the NFL, this
really hurts you because you're giving control to Bill. But
are you giving control to Bill? And and I would
there's no way an NFL team is gonna go, you know.
I think Bill he now's the time to bring him in.
(39:22):
But in the final thirty seconds, what do you think
is next in this story?
Speaker 18 (39:28):
I think you're gonna see people push back on the
reporting out of North Carolina that I've said, which is
that there was a power struggle in which the adults
had to intervene. I think there will be disagreement about that.
And I think that what is happening to my phone
will continue to happen, which is that it will continue
to melt. I signed up for this, I get it.
(39:49):
Aggregation interviews like this are all great. I hope people
listen to the episode. But I can tell you that
everybody who's dealt with Jordan Hudson and one person said, quote,
she is the worst person I've ever dealt with on Earth,
and I have dealt with actual sociopaths. I'm not saying
that that is everybody. I'm just saying this story Dan
is extreme, and there's a lot, including injectable erectile dysfunction
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drugs as just a brief tease for what else we
had to find out.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Nice, he's there, great to talk to you. Thank you, Pablo,
as I always dream, and as I always dream.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Of course, Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds Out podcast courtesy
of Metal Lark Media. Oh my goodness, there's a lot
going on, A lot going on. I don't even know
where to start with it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
It's now.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm not surprised. I had somebody who did work with
them on a potential commercial or promotional shoot and it
didn't work out. But they they had problems because they
were losing creative control. I'm going to dance around this
a little bit, but I was given a heads up,
and in fact I even told the Dans. I don't
(41:02):
know how many months ago that was, but that was
a while ago where I was giving a heads up,
if you want to do something with Bill, everything goes
through her, and she's got creative control. Man, all right,
two hours in the books. I did not expect that
story today, that's for sure. But we'll talk to Mark Messier.
(41:24):
More phone calls coming up. It's a meat Friday. Fritzi's here,
Seaton's here, Marvin Paulie yours truly two hours in the books.
We're going to try to do it one more hour.
Who's with me, Let's go let's go on here, we're here.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Hour two on this speed Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Gang's all here, ready to go. King of Comedy, Fritzie,
You got Marvin Paullie Seaton. Paulie is sporting an eye
patch here, and uh is this a is this a new.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Look for you? It's just a one day or a
one day or little treatment last night. I was a procedure.
I actually yes, it was not surgery.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
I had a little procedure last night.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
And the hotlights are a little.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Okay, sporting the eye patch here becoming all right, very
pirate of you, Yeah, like a plaid pirate. By the way,
the Pirates fired their manager. His name is Derek Shelton.
You might not be aware of his name, but I
think he'd been there six years. I don't know what
they expect. You know, you have a smaller market and
(00:51):
you have an owner wants to turn a profit. Roster's
not great. You got a couple of players who are
going to be really good for somebody else. But if
you look at what the Pirates, they had sixty one,
sixty two, seventy six, seventy six wins and then now
tracking towards a fifty one win season.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
They got a couple of players.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You've got Paul's schemes on there, but I don't know
what you expect. I'm trying to think the last time
that they finished better than five hundred. When's the last
time they made the playoffs. They don't even come close
to finishing over five hundred. The Pirates have won eighty
games in a season four times since nineteen ninety two.
(01:37):
Only the Royals have compiled more losses in the twenty
first century.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Ow stell of a day, stan a day, stall of
a day.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Stella a day.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
This is the style of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't think ownership has signed a free agent to
a multi year contract since December of twenty seventeen. You know,
they can develop players, but it's not a destination for
free agents, and you just don't have enough good players there.
I can't say the team underperformed. I don't know if
(02:21):
they're good enough to perform. And I don't know what
he's supposed to do in a situation like this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, the Pirates have made the playoffs again
three times since nineteen ninety two. Here's a thought, Paul Skiings. Now,
I know he's good for publicity and attendance one out
of every five games. What do you trade Paul Skiings
early while he's max value and redo your whole farm,
(02:49):
your whole farm club and have a chance to have
a young base of talent to maybe score one of
those Florida Marlins type runs. I can't think any other way.
Their competitive.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I don't know what's important to ownership there.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Do you want to win? Do you want to spend money?
Do you want to spend more money than you're comfortable
spending it? You know, it's such a great baseball city,
that ballpark's great views are great, and you go to
downtown walk across the bridge. Uniforms, I mean they they
they and I look, I grew up hating the Pirates
(03:26):
because they were so great in the seventies. That could
pretty much run down the starting lineup with Manny Sanghian
and Al Oliver and Roberto Clementi and Willie Stargel, Bob
Robertson and Gene Alley, Rennie Stennett, Bob Veal, John Candelaria
Kent to Colvey, I mean they who is it Bob Moose?
(03:51):
Was he another picture on that team. Dave Justy I
think was the closer there. You know, they had great
baseball players and it was a great baseball but you know,
it's the haves and the have nots. You almost should
separate and say, all right, if you're only going to
spend this amount of money, then you're going to be
playing in this league. You know, maybe you have relegation,
(04:13):
maybe maybe there's a group that you have. These are
the these are the teams that are in Triple A
ish and then you have you know, maybe somebody is
really good and they win and then they can move
up and then somebody moves down.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Maybe you have something like that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But I don't know what you expect out of some
of these smaller markets, mid market teams. And I don't
know if there's full disclosure on what what are you spending,
how much you're making. That's what I always want to know.
And I always said with certain organizations and the Cincinnati Bengals,
there should be a minimum spend, like you must spend
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at least this. And they're owners, they're fine, they're fine
owning a team. The value goes up, maybe you're not
winning anything and you're getting a profit. But pirates have
fired their manager. It's been a while since we've had
somebody fired this soon. I think it was the Cincinnati
(05:09):
Reds maybe who fired their manager, like eighteen or nineteen
games in a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
All right, you got the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
They take Game two and the series now goes back
to Golden State. The calves at the Pacers tonight, thunder
at the Nuggets. Poll question for hour two is going
to be what Seaton. By the way, good morning if
you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app
and our radio affiliates around the country, numbering over four
hundred cities to carry the program.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
All right, Seaton, we.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Got up there right now. Whose career do you want?
Spike Lee, Bob Costas, Mark Messier. Okay, let's guess the results.
Guess the results, Spike Lee, Bob Costas, Mark Messia.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I'm going to say, as Todd likes to do, I'm
going to say, Tod, do you say he is Bob
costas Spike Lee, Mark Messier?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
That's your order? Yeah, why do you think Bob Costas? First?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I think people can look at that and go, that's
a good job. You know, he's got to cover all
these events. You get to wear suit and tie your
hair's combs. Yeah, it seems easy. Yeah, longevity. So I'd say,
I'd say Bob Costas. Bob Costas is forty seven percent
of the vote right now. Okay, that's a shockingly high
(06:42):
number to me.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
Okay, Mark Messier is in second, but very close him,
Him and Spike Lee are basically tied at second. Okay,
but Costas running away with it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, but I think people look at that and go
I would want to do that job, or I could
do that job. And he's been everywhere on everything. And
he'll be on the show coming up in about fifteen
minutes from he will, Yes, he will, he will, Yes,
he will. By the way, if you miss Spike Lee,
he was great first hour. He had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Ready to go.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Saturday Afternoon Nicks Celtics Chris and Syracuse.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (07:18):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (07:18):
Thanks Dan?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
Hey, a couple of comments off your Spike Lee interview.
I thought it was a great question on second best
sequel on the movies of all time besides behind Godfather
too and I got to go Rocky to and you know,
I always wondered why in Jungle fever. Why Spike went
with Leslie Snipes over his guy Denzel, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't know if there was some kind of scheduling
issue with Denzel.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He's picked Denzel for what five movies, including the latest
one coming out this August.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Have a couple more high end sequels. Terminator two, Judgment
Day is as good or better than the first, right there. Aliens,
the sequel to Alien. Remember Sigourney, we were in that
big thing beating up the bad guy.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah, that's pretty great too. Those are pretty high end sequel.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Not a sequel. Guy mostly bad. Yeah, I don't and
I get it, you.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Know, Hollywood lacks creativity and they don't want to take chances,
and they're like, all right, that made this kind of money,
let's do it again.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Come up with a different script. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
I don't know if it counts as a sequel because
it's kind of the next in the story. Empire Strikes Back.
Star Wars is a pretty great one. Okay, that's a
really good one. But I don't know if it's Those
are kind of it's a story that you tell, you know,
so I have to see the first one. I guess
to appreciate the second one.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You haven't seen either Star Wars movie. No, it's definitely
too late to do that.
Speaker 11 (08:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It is, it is, it is, It doesn't it's not
going to hit. It doesn't hold up. No, okay, no, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 12 (08:59):
For John Fever dens at what was considered, but Spike
went with Wesley Snipes and Spike Lee asked Martin Scorsese
to be in the film, but he declined, and Marissa
Tome turned down the role of Angie Tucci, the female lead,
because of her scheduling conflicts with a little movie called
My Cousin Vinnie could call.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You know, the Bourne movies never trailed off. They have
some consistency.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I can't remember all the names of them, the Bourne
identity afterwards, but they stayed pretty steady for all those sequents.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It was a great movie. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The Bummer is the Jeremy Renner one, and Jeremy Renner
is a great actor, but he's not born He's not
Jason Bourne.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Yeah, they should have had it be like somebody else,
but also part of tread Stone.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yes, you know, once again, that movie's on any of
the movie Boorne identity movies and I'm watching I don't
care where it is. Be right at the end, right
at the beginning, right in the middle, doesn't matter. Always great.
Let me see Lucas in Texas. I Luke, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Hey Dan, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
You know, as you've already mentioned in your Spike Lee interview,
we have a new pope, an American pope, and I've
got a couple of quick things for you. A question
and an observation. First, my question somewhat rhetorical, but how
long until Fritzy inappropriately reaches out to the Vatican to
talk about something related to Villanova's sports. That's my first
one and my second one. This is more of an observation.
(10:27):
It was really a cool moment to see Poco Leo
walk out yesterday as the cheers of the audience. What
was a little unexpected, And Marvin, you'll appreciate this is
that if you play it back, you can actually hear
a small crowd of Americans waving flags and singing Roughrider
anthem by DMX. So I think we all know what
our song is on the international stage now whenever we
get a big win.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
So let's go boys.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, that was a big deal American pope, Chicago based
and White Sox fan, Jordans fan. I think there were
memes that were out there with the Jordan logo, the
jump man on his robe. Fritzie did come up with
a Pope Leo the fourteenth song, ty do you want
(11:12):
to explain this?
Speaker 13 (11:13):
I was just thinking about, you know, the pope and
the guy Electoris, think of song parodies and things like that,
and I'm like, you know what, there was Duran Durant's Rio.
Speaker 12 (11:21):
Back in I think nineteen eighty two. I know that
was forty three years ago.
Speaker 13 (11:24):
I don't want to skew too old. And I singing
a couple of lines in my head while I was
like brushing my teeth, and I thought I had a
little something that I can kind of put together with
Pope Leo off of Rio, big hit song by Duran Durant.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Okay, okay, I'm ready, let's go. Let's see what you got.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
His name is.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Leo and he wears the paper crown.
Speaker 14 (11:45):
He's bringing peace and love all through a Roman town
and when he prays with us, we're filled with so
much hope on Leo Leo.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yes, we have a brand pope.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
He's from Chicago.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Put him in the owner's box.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
He'll bless the copies, Bud. He really loves the sucks.
Speaker 15 (12:12):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
The Pope won't quit until his work is done. He
may be the fourteenth, but to us he's number one.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, respectful, I think I know the answer, but I'm
still gonna ask it for the audience. Have you reached
out to the Vatican to have Pope Leo join it?
Speaker 13 (12:34):
It's funny that that was mentioned, because late last night,
before he went to bed, I said, I wonder how
many steps it would take to actually get the Pope
on the show, and would he be willing to come
on and to a zoom. He's a Chicago guy and
sports fan, and I'm still looking into it. I don't
have any direct contact yet, but there's a press secretary
for the president here and there's got to be a
way to get a message his way. It may take
many many steps, but we're certainly going to give it
(12:56):
a shot. Why not?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (12:57):
How great would that be?
Speaker 10 (12:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
All right? Jonah in Colorado?
Speaker 10 (13:02):
Hey, Jonah, Day's longtime, first time I had five, ten.
Speaker 15 (13:08):
One sixty. I wanted to talk about yesterday you and
the boys. We're talking about some of the greatest songs
are associated with college football teams. And I wanted to say,
y'all miss Dixiel and Delight at Alabama.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well they Alabama's got a couple of them.
Speaker 15 (13:27):
Yeah, but the one we're really known for, the one
you see the you know, cool high videos of.
Speaker 16 (13:31):
That's stick SiO and Delight right after the start of.
Speaker 15 (13:34):
The fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Oh okay, not familiar with that, but thank you, Jonah.
It shows how known they are for it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I guess, Wow, wow, Chemo in Virginia beach, Hi, keem on,
welcome back.
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Hey Danny, Oh gosh, I can't control my phone, and
thanks for calling. And to grass funny, I mean, because
you want Spike you know, that was just that's just
classic good Danny Patrick stuff. And then and I can't
(14:09):
believe the pole question was so perfect, but I'm I'm
confused about your answer. Spike is a man all the accolades.
And then we all want to be Moose, right, we
got to be Moose. So that leads us to who
is the last Danny? When you agreet just you give
(14:31):
him hello, loser.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Thank you. Kima.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now that's what he calls me when I didn't win
the Sports Emmy. Hello loser.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, but you know what's it?
Speaker 17 (14:43):
Give us a of it? Dan Quizybot and Emma and
uh it's Friday?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Sorry? Wow? Did I mention what we're having for meat Friday?
A classic combo? Yeah? I would never put these two together.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Classic combo, A jumbo crab cake, sandwich, smoke, Turkey clubs,
Surf and Turf and Coleslaw classic.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Who is it better than we do?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Okay, which are you more excited about?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm gonna say the smoke Turkey Club? Me too, Me too?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, Todd, what about you? I'm going Turkey Club Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Paul crab Cake Yeah, Marmon crab Cakes Okay.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm not possible hot take not a big crabcake guy,
crab Tree. I was talking about you, crab Tree.
Speaker 18 (15:55):
Let's talk about.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Classic this talking about you, Cramtree.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
All right, let me come on, let's go clean up
our app And it was wait a wee as we're
gonna take a break.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
We're back after this.
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That'll be May eleventh. That's seven and a well, a
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years in the business and online and in person. Tickets
available at ninety two and Why dot org. Bob, how
are you today?
Speaker 11 (18:05):
I'm good, Dan, and rest assured I will not make
a penny off whatever the ninety second Street why accruise
from this appearance. Okay, they do great stuff there. Not
to belabor it. You could actually see someone in conversation
with Larry David or Paul Simon, that kind of thing.
And now I guess they've dipped down in rank. They
didn't have anybody else for Mother's Day night, so it's
(18:26):
made this time.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Pirates have fired their manager. Yeah, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Could you do a two tiered system and maybe have
and it's the haves and the have nots. Could you
do relegation maybe where you know, bottom half team, maybe
they move up? Or what I mean, what are you
supposed to do in Pittsburgh, once great baseball town?
Speaker 10 (18:48):
You know?
Speaker 11 (18:48):
The only thing that brings to mind that would be comparable.
Remember I'm old enough to remember you were a younger child,
if you were here at all. But in nineteen sixty
seven or whatever it was, when the NA expanded, you
had the original six and all the expansion teams went
into one division six and six and that actually sparked
(19:09):
a hockey craze in Saint Louis because the Blues were
the worst of that second I'm sorry, the best of
that second division. And they went to the Stanley Cup
finals twice and acquitted themselves well even though they lost.
So that's the only comparable thing I can think of.
But here, I think is the real answer. If you're
the Pittsburgh Pirates and if you're a long suffering fan,
and then you're right. They have a great baseball history,
(19:30):
they have one of the best ballparks in the major leagues,
and they flounder constantly. Think about this though, Dan there
are ten teams in the two central divisions in the
major leagues. Only one of them is in the top
half of payrolls. That's the Cubs at tenth. Next is
the Tigers at seven teams. Half of the six playoff
(19:50):
teams last year in the American League came from the
al Central, the Tigers, the Royals, and the Guardians and
the Twins, who have now had the trap door open
on them. But the Twins were barely outside that group.
They were alive in the last week other than the Cubs.
In theory, who is going to greatly outspend the Pirates
in the National League Central. One of the things that
(20:13):
mitigates the admittedly large payroll gaps in the major leagues
is the third wild card. You know, whether you like
it or not, you can say, hey, if we can
win eighty five eighty six games, we got a chance
to get into the postseason. And the history shows even
the Dodgers they lost to the Padres two three years ago,
(20:34):
they lost to the Diamondbacks, and they were down two
to one to the Padres last year before they rallied
to win the division Series. It's not a guarantee that
the best teams and the highest payroll teams make it
through to the World Series if you can just get
into that tournament. So I don't want to be harsh,
but what's the Pirate's excuse. They play a huge percentage
(20:57):
of their games within the National League with other teams
that aren't running away from them payroll wise, and you've
got a second and third wild card. You don't have
an excuse to get this bad this consistently for this long.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, and I don't know what you know, Derek Shelton
was supposed to do. You know, yeah, you do have
a couple of players, and we tend to look at
these teams. Some of these teams, we go, point, who's
he going to be with his next contract? You know,
Paul Skins is not going to retire at Pittsburgh Pirate,
which now is not it's a shame, but you know,
that's just modern day baseball here.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 15 (21:34):
You know.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
On the other hand, if Derek Shelton was lucky enough
to have management like the Colorado Rockies have. And this
is not a knock on Bud Black at all. Bud
Black is a very respected baseball guy as a pitching
coach and as a manager and he had the Rockies
in the playoffs several years ago. But they start out
with no chance. They leave spring training with no chance.
But they don't have the benefit, if you want to
(21:55):
call it that, of being in a weaker division. They're
in a division where the other four teams vary from
good to very very good, and they're playing a huge
number of their games in that division and they're like
one hundred and eighty games out. Even though it's only
one two game season.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
They got six wins so far.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, I was wondering about the timing of show, Hey,
Otani coming back to pitch and if if you're the Dodgers,
you don't want to push this, And if you're Otani,
I know that that's your identity, but still, I mean
there's a real risk here. If I'm the Dodgers, I
don't want to lose you as a hitter, and having
(22:35):
you as a pitcher, I may not need you as
much as a pitcher. But I don't know if Otani's
locked in and says, hey, but this is who I am.
I'm the two way player and I want to continue
to do this.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
I think there is an element to that, and it's
part of what leads him to sign with whatever team
he signs with. Obviously, the Dodgers had the greater financial
wherewith all of them able to structure the deal that worked.
But part of it is I want to do both,
so I don't think they can deny him that. But
they do have this luxury, whatever it is. The Dodgers
(23:08):
are a great organization, but they have injuries to their
pitching staff every year. Every team does, but they have
them out of all proportion. They'll start out with ten guys,
all of whom could be in at least some team's rotation.
Now four of them are healthy, and even when we
get to October, we're throwing bullpen games in the playoffs.
So I don't know what they're doing with their medical
(23:30):
staff or their training staff, but at least they have this.
They're so good even in that division that they can
slow walk a lot of guys. Clayton Kershell through like
six to seven perfect endings the other night in the
minor leagues. They're slow walking him back, and who knows,
he may be a reliever for them rather than a starter.
And maybe the answer for Otani is, we don't want
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you to go out there looking to throw six innings,
which is the modern complete game. Maybe we use you
out of the bullpen, and that's the way to do it.
But they have the luxury of knowing they're going to
be in October, be playing in October, and just trying
to pull it all together by then. They don't have
to pull it all together by the All Star break.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Talking to Hall of Fame broadcaster Bob Costas, who haven't
you interviewed or who have you interviewed?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You'd like maybe another sit down with well, you know, the.
Speaker 11 (24:19):
Holy grail has always been Sandy Kofax in sports. Sandy
was always very very gracious to me. I asked him
a couple of times. This goes back more than twenty years,
and he never had someone else make the call. He
always called me back personally and he said, if I
ever do it, I'll do it with you. And after
a while I began to realize I'm at the front
(24:39):
of a line that never moves. Thanks that, I thought, Sandy.
But he did do one thing with us, and I
thought he might for this specific reason. All Star Game
in Cincinnati a decade ago, and they named them Mount
Rushmore of Living baseball players, and it was Willie Hank
joh Bench and Kofax, And I said, Sandy, if it's
(25:03):
just the four of you and you're talking amongst yourselves.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Will you do it?
Speaker 11 (25:07):
And he did and he was great in that sit
down anecdotal joking with the guys. You could see they
were energized, and all I had to do was just
toss it out there and then sit back and let
them talk among themselves. So I think Kofax would be
one of the guys in sports. You know Jack Nicholson
who's in the winter of his years now and seldom
(25:27):
appears in public. But Jack Nicholson fascinating guy, enormous star
for thirty forty years. He always said, I don't do
television interviews. I'm a movie star. Leave your house, you
go into a darken theater, you pay your money, the
phone doesn't ring, and you sit there and watch me
on a big screen. Why do I want to be
(25:48):
sitting with Johnny Carson while you're looking through your toes
as you're lying in bed. But I'm not going to
do that. It diminishes the mystique. So the only time
you saw him on television regularly was sitting courtside at
a Laker game. So it brings me to this nineteen
ninety two NBA Finals Portland against the Bulls and Nicholson
is shooting in HAFA on site in Chicago. So he's
(26:12):
Jack Nicholson. He can get good seats. They weren't at
half court. They were on the base line underneath one
of the baskets, and Dick Eversol and Terry o'deola were
the producers. They spot him there and I'm not calling
the games, Marvis calling the games. I'm upstairs at the
old Chicago Stadium to do the pregame and the halftime.
So they say, Bob, do you know Jack Nicholson, Well,
(26:32):
i've met him, I don't know him not. Well, go
down and ask him if he'll come on at halftime.
I'm like, this is the greatest fools errand.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Of all time.
Speaker 11 (26:39):
Don't you know that Johnny Carson just left the Tonight
Show and he wouldn't go on the last book with
Johnny Carson When people were lined up around the block
to make one more appear, go down, you owe it
to us, Go okay? Fine, So I slept myself down
and I wait for the four minute time out and
I walk up behind him Dan, I swear I tap
him on his right shoulder and he turns around like this,
(27:02):
and the first glimpse of him is like the first
time you see him in the shining face. Then he
softens a little bit and he goes, I wish I
could to a decent of a thing. He goes, Oh, hi, Bob, Jack,
just play along. Here they're watching. I'm supposed to ask
you if you'll come home with us, And I swear
(27:22):
this is what he said. Verbata makes up. I'm editing one.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Word, bomby Bobby.
Speaker 11 (27:27):
You're a nice kid and you do good work. How
can I put this no.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
F.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Jack, I'll take that as a no during the rest
of the game. Now, I got a whole ass.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
In time.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
At least he was very respectful.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yes, I told my audience to keep an eye on
this because I think there's something there. When President Trump
got together with Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred and this Pete
Rose situation, it feels like this is something that Donald
Trump wants to happen to at least get Pete on
the ballot. And I think there's other things at play
(28:09):
that the commissioner may want or need from the President
as well. I think Pete's going to get on the
ballot at some point. It feels like, what do you think.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
Two things here? First, of the ballot part, in theory,
they'd have to put him directly into a Veterans committee
unless they change their rule, okay, because anyone who is
more than fifteen years removed from having played can't be
on the ballot. And of course if you were on
the ballot for ten years, then you wait a little
while and they throw you into a veterans committee. Now,
(28:42):
if they're going to take Pete off the restricted list
or whatever it is, the ineligible list, then in theory
they could also say, wait a minute, he was never
on the writer's ballot. Let's have the writers vote on
it rather than sixteen people in a veterans committee situation.
By the way, if you're going to take Pete off
on that basis, which consider taking shoeless Joe Jackson off
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on that basis He was briefly on the writer's ballot
and didn't make it. But you could put him up
for consideration too. But those are signs to your point.
I don't know the specifics. I haven't talked with Commissioner
Manfred about it. But you know, baseball has an anti
trust exemption. The Trump administration seems quite willing to interpret
(29:26):
things their own way so or to pursue certain legal
actions that others would not. So the anti trust exemption
is important to baseball. It protected them greatly before they
finally Marvin Miller and company finally broke through and got
rid of the reserve clause. But it still has some
value to them. And then who knows. And I'm only
(29:47):
speculating here. I'm not saying it's true. But obviously there
are a great many foreign players in Major League Baseball.
Does Trump's immigration policy perhaps in some way affect their
com and goings. I'm not saying it does, but these
are all things that perhaps Manford and Trump would would
be discussing.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yep, that's how I see it. I think it's going
to happen. At least, you know, Pete posthumously is going
to be on a ballot, whether it's the veterans or
you know, they decide to put him on the regular bound.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
At the writer's bound. Good to talk to you again,
have fun this weekend. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's Bob Costas ninety second Street, y in New York, City.
That'll be seven Eastern coming up this Sunday as Bob
looks back on his forty plus years in the business.
Online in person tickets available at ninety two and why
dot org. When we come back. What's going on with
Bill Belichick's girlfriend at North Carolina? We have some news
(30:46):
about that coming up.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Could be some changes at North Carolina with Bill Belichick
and his girlfriend. We'll have that story for you coming
up here momentarily. Craig and Wisconsin. Hi Craig, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 15 (31:12):
Dan?
Speaker 16 (31:13):
Could you beat Bob Costas in an arm wrestling matchup?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Given the health of my shoulder, maybe not, but I
mean I would certainly try and give it my all.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
I was just.
Speaker 16 (31:29):
Curious, say, I have an idea on how we can
take care of Draymond Green. I think he's an awful
basketball player.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
No, he's a really good basketball player. He just has
control issues.
Speaker 16 (31:49):
Well, I did a Google search for Timitt Washington and
Kirmit Washington is seventy three years old, and I was
thinking possibly fun office Silks, that Minnesota Timberwolves could sign
him on for one game.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Craig Kerman, Washington punched Rudy Tom Johnovich, So I guess
that's what Craig is getting to.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Not funny. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 16 (32:22):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 21 (32:22):
You guys her talking about the pope, and I think
it's time for Gary Doones to town for his sins,
go to confessional because we've had four popes since the
last Cowboys super bull degree.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
All right, thank you to.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
He's Pablo Torri, ESPN commentator, contributor to Around the Horn PTI, PTI,
and Pablo Tory finds out podcast Metal Arc Media, and
apparently he found out a little more than we realized
about what's going on with Bill Belichick and his girlfriend
at North Carolina. Pablo, good to see you. What did
(32:58):
you find out? What did Pablo toy find out? San
Good to be with you. Really good to see you
as well.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I on my show.
Speaker 18 (33:06):
For those not initiated, I take stupid things, sometimes extraordinarily seriously,
and so I spent months of my life in the
Jordan Hudson rabbit hole. I talked to eleven people who
dealt directly with.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Her, and a couple of things.
Speaker 18 (33:22):
Number one is that there was an enormous meeting at
the University of North Carolina where the athletics department had
to have a meeting with the football people and say
that Jordan Hudson cannot be the face of our program anymore.
She cannot be on the field, she cannot be around
the building. She has taken too much when it comes
to the airspace around how people think of the coach,
(33:45):
the greatest coach in football history, arguably who when they
hired him to be the highest paid coach in the history, Well,
forget about any present day North Carolina stats. Just the
highest paid public employee in the state of North Carolina
right now. It was the opposite, right, They had no
idea this was coming. Everybody is now actively worried, including
(34:06):
I can also report members of Bill Belichick's own family
that a thing that takes decades to build reputation premise
on leadership and discretion and privacy and discipline and every
other term, that now feels like it's the opposite of
what his reputation is now in this news cycle, they
feel like that's being destroyed. And it's because he gave power,
(34:28):
the power to run his new media empire now that
he has been freed from the NFL for the first
time in decades. He gave that to a woman whose
age has actually been misreported a lot, I also learned,
but we can now say is actually today twenty four
years old.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Which bills reaction, any public reaction to this.
Speaker 18 (34:48):
It's hard to discern because she is the person who
is on the emails, on the texts, is often ghostwriting,
so his reaction will be mediated, I believe with her.
I will point out that in New York City, where
I live, on Wednesday, there was a talk that Bill
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gave to promote his book, The book that was disastrously
you could argue non promoted at the CBS Sunday Morning Fiasco.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
He gave a talk and Jordan wasn't there.
Speaker 18 (35:19):
There might be something like a deliberate, if not not
to borrow the terms of like another Hollywood separation, not
quite a conscious uncoupling, but certainly a public difference in
how they are presenting her omnipresence. And yeah, what I
can tell you is that family members of Bill see
this as something that is they have been investigating her
(35:42):
too for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
If the CBS interview doesn't play out like it did,
do you think there's any change within North Carolina with
her role with Bill.
Speaker 18 (35:54):
The fascinating thing about Belichick is that he has this
inner circle people who have insulated him as best they
can from all of these concerns, right, And so I'm
gonna say, spoiler alert answer to your question is no.
And the reason is because he is a football creature
with a bunch of frankly yes men around him, Matt Patricia,
Josh McDaniels. That's how they were described to me, not
my editorial judgment. And the CBS thing sept Seeped has
(36:19):
some septic but also seeping vibes to it.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
It got inside of his.
Speaker 18 (36:24):
Bubble, right that book the tabloid avalanche happening because she
did something that and you know this, Dan, a SAVVYPR
person doesn't do actually, which is forget that she's on tape,
on camera, on Mike interjecting. And I'm told also that yes,
the reports are true, that there's thirty more minutes of
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her interrupting, taking control of an interview that was supposed
to be frankly a puff piece, an extraordinarily positive thing
about this book about his leadership style, which could then
be transferred to non football people.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
That was the premise of it.
Speaker 18 (36:55):
Ironically, that's what opened the floodgates, man, And at that
point it became how do we deal with this? And
at that point lots of people realized, now is our
moment to say what we've been seeing behind the scenes,
which is one of the crazier sagas.
Speaker 15 (37:10):
Man.
Speaker 18 (37:10):
I haven't even got into some of the other stuff here.
If I can just give you one brief anecdote just
to help illustrate the point here. There was a commercial
that Belichick was filming, a seven figure commercial, not the
super Bowl commercial, by the way, which we reported also
Jordan Hudson insinuated herself into by representing herself as his
agent to Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, a thing that
(37:31):
afflic and Damon still talk about to this day. By
the way, that she was in that commercial, that she
got paid that they negotiated with her for belichick separate commercial,
earlier commercial for one of the podcasts he was doing
seven figure shoots scripted. She shows up, She's not a
person in the public view, no CBS interview. Yet none
of this stuff has happened. She shows up and she
(37:51):
again wants to be in the commercial, and she's talking
about how this would be a hard launch. That's the
relationship term. I've been given a hard launch of their
relationship public announcement, and she says, hold on, I have
an idea. She leaves, some time passes, the shoot actually ends,
the real shoot. She comes back and she's wearing a
yellow polka dot bikini and a sun hat, and she
(38:12):
wants to film a scene where she is by the
pool with Bill trying to get his attention. All this
again very on the nose, the meta and the real.
But that happens, and everybody there is like, what do
we do with this? Like this is Bill Belichick is
not betraying any emotional change. She's just going along with
all of this because that's him. They're realizing, and they
(38:33):
decide we need to do the thing where we tell
her we're shooting a scene. They grab a camera guy
and they proceed to shoot something that I am told
they're not even sure the camera was on. They point
a camera, they have her do something and they say, good, yep,
got it good, and that's just what it's been like.
That was at the beginning of her taking control of
(38:55):
the media empire. Everything from there is sort of flowing
kind of logically once you hear about that.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And I said this after the CBS interview, if Bill
has any hopes of getting back into the NFL, this
really hurts you because you're giving control to Bill. But
are you giving control to Bill? And and I would
there's no way an NFL team is gonna go, you know.
I think Bill he now's the time to bring him in.
(39:22):
But in the final thirty seconds, what do you think
is next in this story?
Speaker 18 (39:28):
I think you're gonna see people push back on the
reporting out of North Carolina that I've said, which is
that there was a power struggle in which the adults
had to intervene. I think there will be disagreement about that.
And I think that what is happening to my phone
will continue to happen, which is that it will continue
to melt. I signed up for this, I get it.
(39:49):
Aggregation interviews like this are all great. I hope people
listen to the episode. But I can tell you that
everybody who's dealt with Jordan Hudson and one person said, quote,
she is the worst person I've ever dealt with on Earth,
and I have dealt with actual sociopaths. I'm not saying
that that is everybody. I'm just saying this story Dan
is extreme, and there's a lot, including injectable erectile dysfunction
(40:10):
drugs as just a brief tease for what else we
had to find out.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Nice, he's there, great to talk to you. Thank you, Pablo,
as I always dream, and as I always dream.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Of course, Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds Out podcast courtesy
of Metal Lark Media. Oh my goodness, there's a lot
going on, A lot going on. I don't even know
where to start with it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
It's now.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm not surprised. I had somebody who did work with
them on a potential commercial or promotional shoot and it
didn't work out. But they they had problems because they
were losing creative control. I'm going to dance around this
a little bit, but I was given a heads up,
and in fact I even told the Dans. I don't
(41:02):
know how many months ago that was, but that was
a while ago where I was giving a heads up,
if you want to do something with Bill, everything goes
through her, and she's got creative control. Man, all right,
two hours in the books. I did not expect that
story today, that's for sure. But we'll talk to Mark Messier.
(41:24):
More phone calls coming up. It's a meat Friday. Fritzi's here,
Seaton's here, Marvin Paulie yours truly two hours in the books.
We're going to try to do it one more hour.
Who's with me, Let's go let's go on here, we're here.
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