June 3, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan reminds us that players like Michael Jordan and Candace Parker got knocked around their rookie season so Caitlin Clark shouldn’t be surprised by her reception in the WNBA, especially considering how much trash she talks on the court. And Hall of Famer, Lakers legend James Worthy stops by to break down the options for the Lakers concerning LeBron and his son Bronny in the upcoming NBA Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We've got up there. Who needs to win a title?
Jason Tatum, Luka Dancic or Connor McDavid. Right now, Jason
Tatum just barely edging out Connor McDavid. And then we
also have who is the most best player in their
sport Nikola Jokich, Connor McDavid, Patrick Mahomes or Shohei Otani.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Do you want to guess on that one? Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Patrick Mahomes right now is thirty nine percent of the vote,
finishing in last place on that Nikola Jokich Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Ten teams have mandatory mining camps this week, including the
Dallas Cowboys. It'll be interesting to see with Cede Lamb
and Michael Parsons with their contract situations. Minnesota Vikings have
signed Justin Jefferson. That was about forty minutes ago that
he signed a four year, one hundred and forty million
dollar deal. So the highest paid wide receiver in the
NFL was making thirty five million dollars a year. That
(01:51):
will be interesting for Jamar Chase and certainly Cdee Lamb
if their numbers approach Justin Jefferson's numbers. Let's see seven
seven three DP show. We'll get to your phone calls
coming up. A drama filled weekend for the WNBA. We
were talking about this at the end of last hour
with what happened on Saturday with Caitlyn Clark and Caitlyn
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Clark is going to get eyeballs, going to get clicks,
and then you have a moment where Kennedy Carter of
the Sky fouled Caitlin Clark and gave her a hip check,
knocked her down. There was a lot more to this
than just that play. If you look at that play,
you're like, what gives and then you realize that there
was some jawing back and forth, and that's what people
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focused on was just that moment there. If you put
it in context, you can understand that this escalated. Now
is it ugly not pretty?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah? It is.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There's a couple of things that stood out. Caitlin Clark
talks as much trash as anybody she does, and she
was talking back and forth with Kennedy Carter. Well, Kennedy
Carter hits a shot and then says as she gives
her a hip check, I think you can make out
the B word there, and I think Caitlyn Clark had
said something similar to Kennedy Carter the previous time down
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the floor. So there's back and forth. Caitlyn Clark is
frustrated she has not played well, didn't play well, yesterday
had three points. She's clearly exhausted with this schedule that
they have and the frustration level. And you know, these
women on these other teams aren't They don't care. They're
not like us as we look at Caitlyn Clark like, oh,
(03:28):
she's the darling of college basketball and we want her
to succeed.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I want her to be able to be great. I
hope she is. But these women who are in the
WNBA aren't going, Okay, here's the savior. Let's let her
get her shots off. That ain't happening. And Caitin Clark
wasn't complaining afterwards, she said, hey, it is what it is.
Kennedy Carter didn't want to talk about it. But it's
a big deal because Caitlin Clark is their own basketball economy.
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Everybody is trying to capitalize off Caitlin Clark the coverage
there and a lot of people who don't follow the
WNBA haven't followed the WNBA but now are because of
Caitlin Clark are like, what are you doing to our girl?
This is business. These are grown women who are out
there trying to get a paycheck here. They do not
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care about Caitlin Clark's new shoes. They don't care about
a commercial, they don't care about any of that stuff.
They want to make sure they prove to her. You
got to earn it here. You don't walk in and
expect to be great, because we're not going to let
you be great. And yes, are they physical guests, but
I can guarantee you you can talk to players WNBA players,
(04:40):
NBA players, welcome to the league. That's why we talk
about what was your welcome to the league moment? I
bring it up all the time. It's you're going to
get people, players, reputations coming in and we want to
see what you got. But it's the coverage that is
what drives this because normally, if this happened to Diana Tarassi,
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there's not coverage of that, not like that. But you
go back to when these players there was no social media.
Now everything is a social media moment here. Everybody's got
to have an opinion on this. You know, race is
playing a role in this in some circles on social media. Oh,
should she get preferential treatment? She does get Why aren't
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they giving her preferential treatment? I mean, now all of
a sudden, we're kind of legitimizing the WNBA that the
you know, the competition that you have, it means something.
They care and I love a good rivalry. We don't
have enough of them. Maybe we have that. You know
(05:44):
Angel Reese, who I can't tell if she likes Caitlin
Clark or not because it seems to go day to day,
but she was cheering on that. You know, Kennedy Carter
knocked Caitlin Clark down and Angel Reese was cheering. Caitlin
Clark is getting eyeballs in the WNA, and Kennedy Carter says,
you know, other than three point shooting, what is Caitlyn
(06:05):
Clark bring to the game. Well, that's where I have
a problem because Kennedy Carter obviously hasn't recognized how great
a passer Caitlyn Clark is one of the best passers
in all of basketball, men's and women's. Her ability to
see the floor make a great pass, it is up
there top shelf. So Kennedy Carter talking about Kaitlyn Clark
basically being a three point shooter, I'd have to assess
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her ability to be an analyst when it's all said
and done, because she is not showing a high basketball IQ.
If you don't recognize Caitlyn Clark as a brilliant passer,
you know she's not scoring, she's struggling. They're physical with her,
they're not letting her get away, they're not giving her separation.
I'm not surprised. That's what this is. It's grown up basketball.
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You come in and you're like, wait a minute, I
get that shot in college. This ain't college. Hey, I
get to push off. Hey, you're being physical. I get
to go to line, not here. That's what this is.
But the fact that Caitlin Clark gets a lot of eyeballs,
that's why everybody has an opinion on this. And this
isn't just sports fans or WNBA fans, it's everybody is
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going to have an opinion because that one clip where
she gets knocked out, is it wrong? Yes? Do I
want to see that?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
But I do like that. The back and forth, and
it's going to be chippy, it's going to be physical,
and if they sense that you're weak and all of
a sudden they're coming after you. This happens in all sports.
We got Guys come in with a reputation, women come
in with a reputation. I test you a little bit, Yes, Mart,
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did you.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Ever cover a team or witness a team where a
big time rookie comes in and you see the veterans
like who does this guy think he is? And they
try to send a message to him. Early, almost like
Isaiah Thomas with the freeze out allegedly of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I remember Karl Malone hit Isaiah with an elbow,
and I don't know how early that was in Isaiah's career,
but I remember Isaiah was taking it to John Stockton
and Karl Malone Isaiah went down the lane and hit
him in the middle of the forehead and open up
his forehead. I mean, I get it, I understand it.
(08:20):
But then this was you know, when Kurt Rambus gets
pulled to the ground by Kevin McHale. I mean, imagine
if that happened in social media. Now, Kevin McHale didn't
get thrown out of the game. They're no flagrant. We
had playoff fouls. They were called playoff fouls. It we're
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playing different here. These are grown ups. This means something.
It's not Hey, you know, I play, you know, for
a small college, and we're gonna play Caitlin Clark and
I can tell all my friends, these are women who
are talking to each other going, I'm a shut her down.
I want a garter, that's what you want. It's going
to be difficult, And Diana Trossi said that it's difficult.
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Was it cheap? Are they taking their shots?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I'm gonna rough you up until I'm told I can't
rough you up until you call foul on me. Why
am I gonna let you just go and shoot? Is
it better business that she's able to put up thirty
at night? Yes, more people want to see that. You
don't want to see what happened yesterday against the New
York Liberty. She had three points. Nobody wants to see that.
(09:28):
But she's gonna have these moments, gonna have these nights.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yes, siden It's also kind of tough too, to get
a tremendous amount of sympathy for someone getting fouled when
they're also a very well known flopper. There are reel
upon reel upon reel of Caitlyn Cark Clark's best flops.
There's the infamous moment where she a Ohio State fan,
(09:53):
collided with her air quotes. Yeah, and then when you
actually watch the video she ran into the fan and then, uh,
I mean it's there. Is that part of the story
too well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I just I think ESPN their initial highlight, because I
didn't see the game live, their initial highlight on this
game did not include that play, which I I don't
know how that's possible that the player got knocked down
with a hip check and it doesn't make your highlight.
(10:26):
I was surprised. Now I think later sports centers did
have that put back into the highlight, and rightfully so,
because it does say a lot about what's going on
with Caitlin Clark. And then that's where I'm looking forward
to next year to see what she learned and what
kind of player she's going to be, because this will
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help define her and it'll make her better at least
that's what great players do. You get knocked down, you
get back up? Now what do you do? And she's
learning that. Let me see a couple of phone calls
in here Joe and Iowa, Hi Joe, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Ep, I can't agree with you guys more on that
whole Kitlin Clark deal. I don't even know why I'm
calling in at this point because he just nailed it
on the head. I want to do ad that that
was a flop. Seating's right, and that's all I've got
to say on that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So well, I don't want to. I mean, yes, does
he over dramatize, Yes, she does. There's a lot of
players who do that, a lot of great players in
the history of basketball. Lebron does it, Bird did it.
I mean, you can go down the list. Anybody who's
trying to get an advantage is going to do that.
(11:42):
Yeh see.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But I don't remember people saying, say, like, when Lebron flopped,
when's the league going to step in and do something
about all these hard fouls on Lebron?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
When is enough enough? When's enough enough? Already?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
This is ridiculous. He's the only reason I'm watching this
game anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't you know.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That wasn't really the reaction. It was like, hey, dude,
you're too big to be that soft, You're too good
to be that soft.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
True, we'd be like, how come somebody that big is
falling down like that? Yeah, But Cayln Clark, you know,
she's been recognized as you know, our girl out there
playing basketball. People fell in love with what she did
at Iowa, and rightfully so she's a wonderful player. But
now you have more people seeing you play against real
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competition and these women, and they're women, they're out there
and they they're going to hit you. Angel reesc Gott
hit one of her first games and she's like, hey,
all right, welcome to the league. Candice Parker talked about this.
You get Michael Jordan got beat up more than any
player probably in history, any great player in history. What
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did they do to Mike when he first got in
the league. What did the Pistons do to him? They
knocked him down? What did he do? He started lifting
weights and he said it won't happen again. So we
can say, what are they doing to Cayton Clark. They
did this to Michael Jordan at a high degree. The
Pistons made no sekt. They called it the Jordan rules.
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There was a book on the Jordan rules. And that
is when Mike comes in, you make him pay. So
as much as we make this exclusionary, it's just Caitlin Clark,
It's not They did it to Jordan. All right, James
Worthy will join us the lake a great Now I'm
curious here about something the Pelicans just announced with a
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first round draft pick that they were going to get
to get from the Lakers, and then they're going to
leave it with the Lakers because next year's draft is
supposed to be better. That pick, I believe is the
seventeenth pick in the first round. Could you see the
Lakers with the seventeenth pick, not their fifty fourth pick,
taking Bronnie James, taking Bronnie James lebron all right, and
(14:00):
that extension, We're going to use the seventeenth pick on Briani.
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analyst for Spectrum Sportsnet Big Game James back on the program.
Who gave you that nickname Big Game James?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was Chick Francis Hearn, the great Laker announcer During
my playoffs in the eighties. My numbers always increase in percentages,
So there it is. And I've had that name ever
since I believed eighty five eighty six.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
We were talking about Caitlin Clark getting roughed up in
the game this past weekend, and I said, it happens
to young players your rookie year. They want to test you.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I know the NBA is different now than it was
when you first got there, but did you have that, Hey, rookie,
this ain't North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So I came into the league number one draft pick
I was I wasn't Arrogrant, but I was off of it.
I came in the Laker training camp and I was
looking around and I was said, look, I'm good enough
to start here. And I walked in. There's Kareem Magic.
Jamal Willis was still with the team, and Norm Nixon
was still there. And so Kirk Grandis walked in and
(16:16):
I looked at him and I said, he had these
big glasses on with the duct tape pulling them together.
He smelled like Ben Gay. He had all these apparatus
and on flow. And I stayed in my mind, I'm
gonna get that damn spot.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Within fifteen twenty minutes of practice, Kirk Ramon showed me
what a real power forward was in the NBA, and
I had to go sit my ass on that bench
for a couple of years because he wasn't having it. Okay,
it was I went from power forward to small forward.
So I understand the initiation and how you're you know,
(16:53):
how players looked at you. It's part of the game.
I don't like the blind you know, the blind spot.
You know if you're boxing somebody out, or somebody's coming
to the to the cup. You know, I don't like
you know, coming from behind doing something like that. But
that is part of the you know, Welcome to the
w NBA.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But you had every team had an enforcer, it felt
like back then, didn't they?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah, I mean most teams Ours was hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Mitch cup Chat came in, started a fight with a
keem Olajuwan in nineteen eighty six, got him kicked out
of the game, but we still lost. Everybody remembers Maurice Lucas.
I remember guys like Calvin Natt and le Carlannie Shelton,
Bill Amber, you know, you know they were enforcers. You
(17:40):
know when they came in the game. Greg Kite, you
know when he came into the game, he was going
to be a file. So, yeah, they were enforcers for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You're wearing your North Carolina sweatshirt there always Yeah. When
did you know that Michael Jordan was better than you?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I was, you know in his documentary. You know I
say that, you know, I was better than Michael Jordan
for about three weeks. It took about three weeks for
him to you know, because he always he always thought
out the best, whether it was backgam then you know,
chash Cars, he wanted to know who the best was.
So I saw him, you know, come in and one
(18:25):
of the things I think is missing is that you
don't have these college coaches anymore that are ripping, ripping
your egos away immediately you're going to be a part
of this team. And Michael bought into that, and with
his talent, coach Smith just just elevated. I tease him
a lot though he couldn't win another one, uh without me,
(18:45):
without me, but uh yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Knew he was.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I knew he was because he was a late bloomer Dan.
He really had a lot of talent. And then it
just sturgs as he you know, kept growing and getting
older in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But that's tough because you're the college player of the year.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Right yeah, along with raph Sampson.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah yeah, So all of a sudden, Mike comes in
and you go okay, and then all of a sudden
you go damn Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah. I knew he saved us. I knew it was.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Right around the AHCC tournament he started to really you know,
make himself known against Virginia and some of those guys
Lead Raker and Jeff Lambino's guys, Michael hit some big shots. Okay,
you go back and look at that game. When you
look at the Georgetown game, we were kind of, you know, losing.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
He had a big left hand shot over over ewing
one from the corner, and then, of course, you know
the big shot he hit in Georgetown. I had to
beat the decoy, of course, that's why. That's why he
was But yeah, I knew he was.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I knew he was. I knew he had it man.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, we're talking to James Worthy of the Hall of Famer.
I was recalling a conversation we had years ago when
you were talking about when Magic hitched the sky hook
in the garden and Boston still has one possession left
and you have one job to do. Yeah, don't lose
sight of Larry Bird.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I failed. I failed.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
How did you lose sight of Larry Bird?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know, Larry was so smart that I don't know
what they ran the play called, but he diagrammed something
where Danny Ainge was in the corner right, So I
had Hooper between you know, me and Danny Ainge. So
I was trying to to deny Larry Bird. And then
(20:39):
when the referee gating the ball, I realized what was happening,
but it was too late. He kept pushing me up
a little bit, and then Danny Ainge cleared out and
that whole side was open. And when that ball was
in the air, I was like, I'd already thrown the
ball away in Game two in nineteen eighty four, and
(21:00):
now I'm thinking, what a defensive dummy allowed him to
get the ball? He saw me coming, he didn't have
much time, and I think he did see me out
of the out of his eye, but he doesn't miss
that shot.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So I just was lucky, very eleckly.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
How tough was Riley on you guys?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
He was tough.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It was there was a time when players would accept
the truth and they would you know, they would accept
where the coach was coming from. Criticized. Yeah, we got
pissed sometime, but the video didn't lie.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was old school roles. He prepared us, and you
know he had the team as one. You know, Kareem
and Magic started that before I got there. They realized
that he was very, very tough. But that's what it took.
In the eighties, man, it was hard to get past
Utah and Dallas and San Antonio and Rales kept us,
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you know, he kept us to float for many, many years,
and you know we appreciated it, even when he made
the guarantee that you know, we won in eighty seven
and he guaranteed that, and most of them was hung
over that morning and we were like, what did he
just say?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
But he knew, he knew we needed that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He knew because the Lakers had won one championship here
and there, he knew that's what we needed. And that
kind of philosophy, and you know, psychiatry worked with us.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Who's the best player in the NBA right now, I'll
give you the number one pick.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Who's who's the best player in the NBA right now?
I would have to say Yochas the Joker, I'm sorry,
the Joker from Denver three times MVP. He's he's Kareem
at dul Jabbar, Magic Johnson, all wound and want. He
can do it at all and you know what he
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does most of all and besides his individual play, he
makes his teammates so much better with his passion the building.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
He's a people movie. He's puts his.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Hands up, he moves people out of the way, and
before you know it, he's in a threat area and
he has I have not seen a touch like that
since Koreem. He doesn't have a sky hook, but he
has a jump hook and if the ball touches the rim,
it's usually going in. So I think I like his attitude,
his preparation, his teamwork, ability to get his team gathered.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You're an analyst for a Spectrum sportsnet with the Lakers,
so I'm curious about this that if the Lakers they're
keeping their seventeenth overall pick in the first round, that
the Pelicans decline taking that because the draft is better
next year. Could you see a scenario, James where the
Lakers use the seventeenth overall pick on Brownie James?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah, I could, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Unfortunately, I don't want to say unfortunately, but it's just
the way the league has grown in the trend of
what's happening social media, you know, load management, just so
much going on, and I think Lebron stands in the
same as like Griffin Senior and Griffy Junior, you.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Know, Gordie Howell and his sons.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
He wants to get it done, even if it's just
for a week. So I could see them, you know,
you know, maybe being on the Laker team or the
G League, and then there's a big national game coming
up in a couple of weeks, they'll pull him up
and there you'll have it, son and father playing. So yeah,
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I mean, I don't. I mean Brown, he's got a
lot to prove. I think, you know, I think it's
combined was pretty good. So we'll see. It's six to one.
It'll be a challenge, but it could be done. We've
seen others.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Did you ever exchange jerseys with players when you were playing?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
No, I didn't. I didn't ask for nothing and didn't
give nothing away.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
No, did you later in life? Did you ask for
like a as Isaiah jersey or a Bird jersey or
Jordan jersey? No?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Now I think I I think I took a pair
of Michael's you and c practice jersey somewhere, but that
was Collins.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Just I've probably donated, uh, you know, more stuff like
an All Star jersey to a charity than I'd asked
for anything. You want, guy, do I've actually the guys
to help donate to a to a cause, but not personally.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You ever wonder what your career life would have been
like if you had gone to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, and I talk about that a lot because had
Ralph Sampson decided to go for a go his senior year,
Ralph would have gone first, Dominate, probably would have gone second,
Terry Cummings would have been and I probably would have
stayed my senior year and tried to get another championship. So,
I mean, you never know how I would have gone.
(26:00):
Cleveland had some really good teams. They was just because
of Michael Jordan. If they didn't advance, so it might
have been they'd have had me to guard Michael, they
might have advanced to the final.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So so you would have been the Jordan's stopper.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I locked him up. Yeah, you gotta be verbal with Michael.
You gotta be verbal, you gotta talk. You gotta talk trash,
and you know you can't get in his head, but
you gotta make it fun. I'm not I know if
I'd have stopped him to it with a few hard fires.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't want to upset him though. James.
It feels like if you're you know, like bird, I don't.
I would never want to start talking trash with some
of these guys.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
It seemed to make them better. Gotta meet force with force.
Two of the biggest trash talkers in the league. Why
not if they're doing it, you don't get your ass
busted anyway, you might as well get it busted.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Going down talking. I'm gonna win one of the vibers.
I'm gonna win trash talking or something.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Wait, I would think Bird would have respect for you,
that he wouldn't give you grief.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Ever, talked a lot to me because he knew I
bought the thunder, I bought.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
The pain I had.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I had to guard him. I had to guard him
up until like fourth quarter. Then we turned it over
to Michael Cooper. But I got many clips, many clips
of me waxing Maxwell and Barr and ducking. I mean,
they don't they don't.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
He didn't. He didn't say a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, I was the guy you didn't want to I
was the guy you didn't want to get kicked off.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Look at you. You're too nice a guy.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I think you know when you're sixty three. He talked craft.
That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Great to catch up with you again. Thanks for joining
us as always.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
James, you got it day. Good to see you brother.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's James Worthy, Hall of Famer and Laker Anlys for
a Spectrum Sports Net. I brought it up. It's an oh,
by the way, when the Pelicans said we'll let you
keep that draft pick, they had the opportunity to take
the seventeenth overall pick or they could move it to
next year. So they're gonna move it to next year.
And I just thought, if the Lakers are on the
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clock at seventeen, and maybe you have some kind of
agreement in place with Lebron, hey, come back, sign you know,
an extension, and if Bronnie is there at seventeen, we'll
take him for you. I don't think it's too far fetched,
and James even saying, no, it's not, and then I
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agree that, you know, he just needs to play a
little bit more. He needs a full season, and maybe
that'll be in the G League. But let's say the
Lakers are going to be national TV and Lebron says, hey,
can you bring up Bronni just so America gets to
see him in a game with Dad. I don't know
if he would make the roster. Maybe it would be
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one of those that you know, we'll have you down
there for a little bit we'll bring you up for
a little bit. I don't think it's out of the
question that Lakers and Lebron in partnership in unison, would
take Bronnie with that seventeenth overall pick. Yempoem.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
How does Laker management sell that to the fans, taking
a player who should be a mid second rounder in
the middle of the first round for the future of
the franchise.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, here's another thing that's going on. Ronnie James is
not the fifty fourth best prospect, but the Lakers have
the fifty fourth pick in the second round, and I
think it's fifty fourth pick. So now all of a sudden,
these mock drafts are kind of placing Bronnie as the
fifty third, fifty fourth, fifty fifth best pick, and so
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therefore the Lakers of course would take him because he's
the next guy, best guy available, and he's not you know,
he's he can't be just based off performance, certainly health.
You're basing this off of his dad. If his dad,
you know, was somebody different, you know, somebody who didn't
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play in the NBA, we would not say, oh, Bronnie James, Yeah,
seeing the kid, he looks okay, you wouldn't he wouldn't
get drafted. And and I'm just basing this off what
I saw at USC and even with the combine, I
mean he they listed him at six ' three, he's not.
He's six one and a half. Well, that's different. That's
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big because he's going to be a defender, point guard,
backup point guard, and just the physicality with that size wise,
and I think he's a better shooter than his dad
was when his dad first came in, not as good
a passer, and obviously nowhere near the size of his dad.
And it's not like he's gonna have a growth spurt,
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you know, Lebron's other son. He's the one that's going
to be, you know, good size Lebron's size. So I'm
just looking at it and just being realistic about it.
Would I like to see Bronnie play in the NBA? Yes,
I mean Hollywood's full of nepotism. You might as well
have that right there in Hollywood with the Lakers. That's
exactly what it is. Yes, Mark.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
The one thing that I loved about sports, that I
love about sports is that like who your dad is
or who your mom is doesn't matter. Austin Rivers became
a lottery pick because he was good enough to be
a lottery pick.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
And I think this.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Right here, wh whoa back row is Scots?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
You don't think that had helped that Austin River's father
was a professional basketball player.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
How about we hold off here, Come on, let me
take a break. We'll come back. We'll give everybody a
chance to respond to Marvin's claim. There back after.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
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Speaker 2 (31:41):
Right, before the commercial break, Marvin was talking about nepotism
or anti nepotism, and you're talking about Doc rivers son
and that he earned his way into the NBA. And
then Seaton was ready to object. So state your case
about Austin Rivers and his worthiness of going into the NBA.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Well, Austin Rivers was a top five recruit coming out
of high school. And you're not a top five recruit
just because of who your dad's, Doc Rivers, Right, Okay, great,
there's plenty of second generation guys that play high school basketball.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
There aren't top five recruits.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
And he went to Duke coach k isn't just taking
him because he's Doc rivers kid. And on top of that,
he's picked tenth overall by the Pelicans. Doc Rivers doesn't
have anything to do with the Pelicans. So that's all
I was saying, And he earned his way into being
a lottery.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Pick seating you would like to respond, I just don't
know that if Doc Rivers was actually Doctor Rivers and
it never played a second of basketball in his whole life,
if Austin son, Austin would still be going to Duke
and all of those things.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, Pauline, I think it's between what these guys are saying.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
I think when you're a young athlete in any sport
and your father was very successful at sport, you get
eyeballs that you may not normally get. You get recruited
where you may not normally get. What I really think
it helps you is remember when Chris long was the
number one pick of the draft out of Virginia. He's
a son of how He Longed.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
We all know that.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
I'm looking at draft profiles and they actually say he's
a safe pick because he comes from a football family.
He knows the lifestyle, he knows about being an NFL player,
work ethic, etc. I think it helps you get drafted,
maybe a touch higher than you might because they trust
your family and your delivery to the NFL.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Marvin No, I like what Paul he said right there, Okay,
but I still think because of his performance at Duke
and in high school, he became a top ten pick
in the draft.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I had no problem with him getting picked where
he got picked. Do I think he probably got more
attention because of his dad, Yes, but sometimes like Ronnie
James has got more attention, but he's got negative attention
because now we tune in and we go he's nothing special,
Whereas maybe if he's just a regular player now he's
not drafted. If he's a regular player, he's going to
get drafted because of his dad, but he's going to
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prove that he belongs in the NBA because of him,
not his dad.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, setn And like to me, it's like, it isn't
just the attention because of your parent. It's is Tim
Hardaway Junior in the NBA Finals or you know, playing
right now if his father Tim isn't teaching him how
to play the game from the day he was born.
Absolutely not if it wasn't, he had probably had a
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ball in his head his whole life.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Okay, that's not nepotives. That's just preparation. That's just showing
you what I can do, and it's up to you
to perform at that level. I think that's the beauty
about sports. And when you talked about you know certain
actors or actresses that get opportunities because of who their
mom or dads are. Yeah, then that's a different animal.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes, we see that in Hollywood, where there's nepotism. Somebody's
going to get an opportunity to be in a movie
or a sitcom because of their parents.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yes.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
The media is really funny with it because I think
media expects an athlete, a young athlete, be just as
good as their father or their uncle. I'm looking at
stories about Arch Manning when he was a junior in
high school and they say, I can't wait till he's
the number one pick of the twenty twenty six draft.
That could happen. It's very possible to happen. He hasn't
been able to start yet for Texas. Yeah, but it's
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the media always takes it two steps forward with athletes
whose dads were awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, we're never going to let you develop on time
or normally. It's you know, we want to fast track you, like, oh,
you know, freshman in high school. We're gonna see how good.
Uh it could be the number one pick on the drive. Why, well,
this is based off of what your dad did or
your uncle did, nephew did. That's not fair to the kid.
(35:43):
But you know, life's not fair. I tell that to
Marvin all the time. Marvin stopped complaining life's not fair.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm sorry, I'll stop, Okay, But I think in c
And sees this also like one of those different mixtapes
like Hoop Mixtape on Ball's Life, it's a Carlos Boozer's son,
Carmelo Anthony's sun shines at this camp or this camp.
So yes, that part absolutely I agree with. But I
think it's up to the player to, you know, perform
(36:10):
what he needs.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
We know you have to. I can get you to
a certain level here, I can get you to the
door you open it, and how long you stay when
you get in, it's up to you. It's not like,
you know, are they going to keep Brownie James on
the Lakers when Lebron's not there anymore, Probably not unless
he's earned that. A couple of phone calls Bryanton Virginia,
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Hi Bryant, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (36:35):
DP, good to be back on fifth time on never
give him my heighter weight. So five nine and a medium.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
We'll go with that.
Speaker 12 (36:44):
Best and worst of the weekend best kind of like
other callers. Connor McDavid gettingto the finals. I actually grew
up in Heree, Pennsylvania, and I know as a fifteen
year old he was drafted there as an HL of
the otters, and I got to say, coming in as
a one million dollar contract and everything at fifteen, he
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handled it awesome, lived up to every expectation, never heard
anything negative about him in a smaller city like hear
and that was pretty awesome to see. So it's good
to see him to get to the finals. It works
for the weekend having to do with Bronni. Unfortunately, the
Lakers getting that pick is sabotaging the ultimate plan of
my Raptors getting Browny at nineteen to get Lebron back
(37:30):
or Lebron too Toronto to bring a new new meeting
to that Lebronto term that we've all heard so all right.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Thank you. Brian Terrence in Texas. Hey Terrence, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. TH's the weekend?
Was watching the MAVs clinch? And was it the worst
of this weekend? What's the worst so the last weekend?
I'm going to kind of need some advice on this.
I'm the newest member of the DNC. My mom passed
away last Friday, and I'm now preparing a eulogy. I'm
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kind of wanting to know from a Mark TONI Winner,
how should I handle speaking in front of a bunch
of people about my mom's amazing life?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay, do you cry easily?
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a big baby dude.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Okay, Well, I think telling stories that make people laugh,
make them smile, that you want, you know, when you
remember mom, you know, here's a story that comes to mind,
and then you give maybe another story what she meant
to you, what she meant to other people. And I
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also think brevity is the is your friend, and no
matter what speech you give, brevity can be your friend.
And I think always keep that in mind. If there's
other people who need to get up there but leave
them smiling, let them always remember a story that you
told about your mom at her eulogy. I appreciate man,
(38:59):
Thank you, and good luck Terrence.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Yeah, Paul, I think it's good advice because there's lots
of people probably at this funeral that don't have a
ton of time left and they want to use it wisely.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
You don't do a twenty minute speech.
Speaker 11 (39:10):
Three minutes and a couple of good stories.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, I don't know about they don't have much time left,
Like they're going to die during the ulish term a
couple of years after. Come on, I'm gonna die out here. Hey,
we're dying out here. Wait you mean that literally? Yes?
Yes see.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I once knew a fella who was a funeral director
who would often go to events such as that or
weddings and things like that and wait for a certain
age group of the crowd to get out there. And
one of his favorite jokes was a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Out there right now.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Wows a lot of money out there right now?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's a new roof for the house. Wow. Wow, I
get that line of business. You gotta have a good
sense of humor. I don't know. I was in a
moment where somebody was having a stroke as we're picking
out my mom's casket. And and as we're in this
room picking out my mom's casket, and a family member
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had a stroke, and like we didn't, we're panicking, And
we always laugh now that the funeral director was sizing
up the person who might die right there, like, hey,
a two for one. We can give you a two
for here. Your mom, we got her casket, and this
gentleman right here having a stroke, we like to.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
Offer you the second casket at fifty percent of oh special.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh I got to have the coupon on you in
your hand. But if you're a funeral director, don't you
size up people at certain ages where you go, okay,
you're you know, whatever size casket it's going to be.
You know, when you walk into a watch store, first
thing they do is look at your watch. You go
in to buy shoes. They want to see what kind
of shoes you have on you walk in, See how
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healthy you are. Oh that's a bad cough. Yeah yeah,
what size are you?
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Half time, you look like you're around five nine to
five ten. Right there, you lay down for me. I
just want to see you get the first time two
hours in the books already, where did the fun Go,
there's more. There's more to come, at least I hope
we're going to try Final Hour on the Way by
(41:22):
the Way, Justin Jefferson and the Vikings have agreed to
a four year, one hundred and forty million dollars deal.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh piat A great weekend, everybody, gangzol here, Fritzi, Seaton,
Marvin Paul yours truly the backroom guys as well. Best
and worst of the weekend. Your phone calls, We'll get
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(00:48):
not this week but next week. All right, pull question
from the first downur Seaton, What are we going to
go with our two? Our one?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We've got up there. Who needs to win a title?
Jason Tatum, Luka Dancic or Connor McDavid. Right now, Jason
Tatum just barely edging out Connor McDavid. And then we
also have who is the most best player in their
sport Nikola Jokich, Connor McDavid, Patrick Mahomes or Shohei Otani.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Do you want to guess on that one? Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Patrick Mahomes right now is thirty nine percent of the vote,
finishing in last place on that Nikola Jokich Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Ten teams have mandatory mining camps this week, including the
Dallas Cowboys. It'll be interesting to see with Cede Lamb
and Michael Parsons with their contract situations. Minnesota Vikings have
signed Justin Jefferson. That was about forty minutes ago that
he signed a four year, one hundred and forty million
dollar deal. So the highest paid wide receiver in the
NFL was making thirty five million dollars a year. That
(01:51):
will be interesting for Jamar Chase and certainly Cdee Lamb
if their numbers approach Justin Jefferson's numbers. Let's see seven
seven three DP show. We'll get to your phone calls
coming up. A drama filled weekend for the WNBA. We
were talking about this at the end of last hour
with what happened on Saturday with Caitlyn Clark and Caitlyn
(02:12):
Clark is going to get eyeballs, going to get clicks,
and then you have a moment where Kennedy Carter of
the Sky fouled Caitlin Clark and gave her a hip check,
knocked her down. There was a lot more to this
than just that play. If you look at that play,
you're like, what gives and then you realize that there
was some jawing back and forth, and that's what people
(02:33):
focused on was just that moment there. If you put
it in context, you can understand that this escalated. Now
is it ugly not pretty?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah? It is.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There's a couple of things that stood out. Caitlin Clark
talks as much trash as anybody she does, and she
was talking back and forth with Kennedy Carter. Well, Kennedy
Carter hits a shot and then says as she gives
her a hip check, I think you can make out
the B word there, and I think Caitlyn Clark had
said something similar to Kennedy Carter the previous time down
(03:06):
the floor. So there's back and forth. Caitlyn Clark is
frustrated she has not played well, didn't play well, yesterday
had three points. She's clearly exhausted with this schedule that
they have and the frustration level. And you know, these
women on these other teams aren't They don't care. They're
not like us as we look at Caitlyn Clark like, oh,
(03:28):
she's the darling of college basketball and we want her
to succeed.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I want her to be able to be great. I
hope she is. But these women who are in the
WNBA aren't going, Okay, here's the savior. Let's let her
get her shots off. That ain't happening. And Caitin Clark
wasn't complaining afterwards, she said, hey, it is what it is.
Kennedy Carter didn't want to talk about it. But it's
a big deal because Caitlin Clark is their own basketball economy.
(03:57):
Everybody is trying to capitalize off Caitlin Clark the coverage
there and a lot of people who don't follow the
WNBA haven't followed the WNBA but now are because of
Caitlin Clark are like, what are you doing to our girl?
This is business. These are grown women who are out
there trying to get a paycheck here. They do not
(04:17):
care about Caitlin Clark's new shoes. They don't care about
a commercial, they don't care about any of that stuff.
They want to make sure they prove to her. You
got to earn it here. You don't walk in and
expect to be great, because we're not going to let
you be great. And yes, are they physical guests, but
I can guarantee you you can talk to players WNBA players,
(04:40):
NBA players, welcome to the league. That's why we talk
about what was your welcome to the league moment? I
bring it up all the time. It's you're going to
get people, players, reputations coming in and we want to
see what you got. But it's the coverage that is
what drives this because normally, if this happened to Diana Tarassi,
(05:03):
there's not coverage of that, not like that. But you
go back to when these players there was no social media.
Now everything is a social media moment here. Everybody's got
to have an opinion on this. You know, race is
playing a role in this in some circles on social media. Oh,
should she get preferential treatment? She does get Why aren't
(05:24):
they giving her preferential treatment? I mean, now all of
a sudden, we're kind of legitimizing the WNBA that the
you know, the competition that you have, it means something.
They care and I love a good rivalry. We don't
have enough of them. Maybe we have that. You know
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Angel Reese, who I can't tell if she likes Caitlin
Clark or not because it seems to go day to day,
but she was cheering on that. You know, Kennedy Carter
knocked Caitlin Clark down and Angel Reese was cheering. Caitlin
Clark is getting eyeballs in the WNA, and Kennedy Carter says,
you know, other than three point shooting, what is Caitlyn
(06:05):
Clark bring to the game. Well, that's where I have
a problem because Kennedy Carter obviously hasn't recognized how great
a passer Caitlyn Clark is one of the best passers
in all of basketball, men's and women's. Her ability to
see the floor make a great pass, it is up
there top shelf. So Kennedy Carter talking about Kaitlyn Clark
basically being a three point shooter, I'd have to assess
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her ability to be an analyst when it's all said
and done, because she is not showing a high basketball IQ.
If you don't recognize Caitlyn Clark as a brilliant passer,
you know she's not scoring, she's struggling. They're physical with her,
they're not letting her get away, they're not giving her separation.
I'm not surprised. That's what this is. It's grown up basketball.
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You come in and you're like, wait a minute, I
get that shot in college. This ain't college. Hey, I
get to push off. Hey, you're being physical. I get
to go to line, not here. That's what this is.
But the fact that Caitlin Clark gets a lot of eyeballs,
that's why everybody has an opinion on this. And this
isn't just sports fans or WNBA fans, it's everybody is
(07:13):
going to have an opinion because that one clip where
she gets knocked out, is it wrong? Yes? Do I
want to see that?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
But I do like that. The back and forth, and
it's going to be chippy, it's going to be physical,
and if they sense that you're weak and all of
a sudden they're coming after you. This happens in all sports.
We got Guys come in with a reputation, women come
in with a reputation. I test you a little bit, Yes, Mart,
(07:43):
did you.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Ever cover a team or witness a team where a
big time rookie comes in and you see the veterans
like who does this guy think he is? And they
try to send a message to him. Early, almost like
Isaiah Thomas with the freeze out allegedly of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, I remember Karl Malone hit Isaiah with an elbow,
and I don't know how early that was in Isaiah's career,
but I remember Isaiah was taking it to John Stockton
and Karl Malone Isaiah went down the lane and hit
him in the middle of the forehead and open up
his forehead. I mean, I get it, I understand it.
(08:20):
But then this was you know, when Kurt Rambus gets
pulled to the ground by Kevin McHale. I mean, imagine
if that happened in social media. Now, Kevin McHale didn't
get thrown out of the game. They're no flagrant. We
had playoff fouls. They were called playoff fouls. It we're
(08:40):
playing different here. These are grown ups. This means something.
It's not Hey, you know, I play, you know, for
a small college, and we're gonna play Caitlin Clark and
I can tell all my friends, these are women who
are talking to each other going, I'm a shut her down.
I want a garter, that's what you want. It's going
to be difficult, And Diana Trossi said that it's difficult.
(09:04):
Was it cheap? Are they taking their shots?
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I'm gonna rough you up until I'm told I can't
rough you up until you call foul on me. Why
am I gonna let you just go and shoot? Is
it better business that she's able to put up thirty
at night? Yes, more people want to see that. You
don't want to see what happened yesterday against the New
York Liberty. She had three points. Nobody wants to see that.
(09:28):
But she's gonna have these moments, gonna have these nights.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yes, siden It's also kind of tough too, to get
a tremendous amount of sympathy for someone getting fouled when
they're also a very well known flopper. There are reel
upon reel upon reel of Caitlyn Cark Clark's best flops.
There's the infamous moment where she a Ohio State fan,
(09:53):
collided with her air quotes. Yeah, and then when you
actually watch the video she ran into the fan and then, uh,
I mean it's there. Is that part of the story
too well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I just I think ESPN their initial highlight, because I
didn't see the game live, their initial highlight on this
game did not include that play, which I I don't
know how that's possible that the player got knocked down
with a hip check and it doesn't make your highlight.
(10:26):
I was surprised. Now I think later sports centers did
have that put back into the highlight, and rightfully so,
because it does say a lot about what's going on
with Caitlin Clark. And then that's where I'm looking forward
to next year to see what she learned and what
kind of player she's going to be, because this will
(10:46):
help define her and it'll make her better at least
that's what great players do. You get knocked down, you
get back up? Now what do you do? And she's
learning that. Let me see a couple of phone calls
in here Joe and Iowa, Hi Joe, what's on your
mind today?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Ep, I can't agree with you guys more on that
whole Kitlin Clark deal. I don't even know why I'm
calling in at this point because he just nailed it
on the head. I want to do ad that that
was a flop. Seating's right, and that's all I've got
to say on that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So well, I don't want to. I mean, yes, does
he over dramatize, Yes, she does. There's a lot of
players who do that, a lot of great players in
the history of basketball. Lebron does it, Bird did it.
I mean, you can go down the list. Anybody who's
trying to get an advantage is going to do that.
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Yeh see.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But I don't remember people saying, say, like, when Lebron flopped,
when's the league going to step in and do something
about all these hard fouls on Lebron?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
When is enough enough? When's enough enough? Already?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
This is ridiculous. He's the only reason I'm watching this
game anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't you know.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That wasn't really the reaction. It was like, hey, dude,
you're too big to be that soft, You're too good
to be that soft.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
True, we'd be like, how come somebody that big is
falling down like that? Yeah, But Cayln Clark, you know,
she's been recognized as you know, our girl out there
playing basketball. People fell in love with what she did
at Iowa, and rightfully so she's a wonderful player. But
now you have more people seeing you play against real
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competition and these women, and they're women, they're out there
and they they're going to hit you. Angel reesc Gott
hit one of her first games and she's like, hey,
all right, welcome to the league. Candice Parker talked about this.
You get Michael Jordan got beat up more than any
player probably in history, any great player in history. What
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did they do to Mike when he first got in
the league. What did the Pistons do to him? They
knocked him down? What did he do? He started lifting
weights and he said it won't happen again. So we
can say, what are they doing to Cayton Clark. They
did this to Michael Jordan at a high degree. The
Pistons made no sekt. They called it the Jordan rules.
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There was a book on the Jordan rules. And that
is when Mike comes in, you make him pay. So
as much as we make this exclusionary, it's just Caitlin Clark,
It's not They did it to Jordan. All right, James
Worthy will join us the lake a great Now I'm
curious here about something the Pelicans just announced with a
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first round draft pick that they were going to get
to get from the Lakers, and then they're going to
leave it with the Lakers because next year's draft is
supposed to be better. That pick, I believe is the
seventeenth pick in the first round. Could you see the
Lakers with the seventeenth pick, not their fifty fourth pick,
taking Bronnie James, taking Bronnie James lebron all right, and
(14:00):
that extension, We're going to use the seventeenth pick on Briani.
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Who gave you that nickname Big Game James?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was Chick Francis Hearn, the great Laker announcer During
my playoffs in the eighties. My numbers always increase in percentages,
So there it is. And I've had that name ever
since I believed eighty five eighty six.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
We were talking about Caitlin Clark getting roughed up in
the game this past weekend, and I said, it happens
to young players your rookie year. They want to test you.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I know the NBA is different now than it was
when you first got there, but did you have that, Hey, rookie,
this ain't North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
So I came into the league number one draft pick
I was I wasn't Arrogrant, but I was off of it.
I came in the Laker training camp and I was
looking around and I was said, look, I'm good enough
to start here. And I walked in. There's Kareem Magic.
Jamal Willis was still with the team, and Norm Nixon
was still there. And so Kirk Grandis walked in and
(16:16):
I looked at him and I said, he had these
big glasses on with the duct tape pulling them together.
He smelled like Ben Gay. He had all these apparatus
and on flow. And I stayed in my mind, I'm
gonna get that damn spot.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Within fifteen twenty minutes of practice, Kirk Ramon showed me
what a real power forward was in the NBA, and
I had to go sit my ass on that bench
for a couple of years because he wasn't having it. Okay,
it was I went from power forward to small forward.
So I understand the initiation and how you're you know,
(16:53):
how players looked at you. It's part of the game.
I don't like the blind you know, the blind spot.
You know if you're boxing somebody out, or somebody's coming
to the to the cup. You know, I don't like
you know, coming from behind doing something like that. But
that is part of the you know, Welcome to the
w NBA.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But you had every team had an enforcer, it felt
like back then, didn't they?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah, I mean most teams Ours was hurt.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Mitch cup Chat came in, started a fight with a
keem Olajuwan in nineteen eighty six, got him kicked out
of the game, but we still lost. Everybody remembers Maurice Lucas.
I remember guys like Calvin Natt and le Carlannie Shelton,
Bill Amber, you know, you know they were enforcers. You
(17:40):
know when they came in the game. Greg Kite, you
know when he came into the game, he was going
to be a file. So, yeah, they were enforcers for sure.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You're wearing your North Carolina sweatshirt there always Yeah. When
did you know that Michael Jordan was better than you?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I was, you know in his documentary. You know I
say that, you know, I was better than Michael Jordan
for about three weeks. It took about three weeks for
him to you know, because he always he always thought
out the best, whether it was backgam then you know,
chash Cars, he wanted to know who the best was.
So I saw him, you know, come in and one
(18:25):
of the things I think is missing is that you
don't have these college coaches anymore that are ripping, ripping
your egos away immediately you're going to be a part
of this team. And Michael bought into that, and with
his talent, coach Smith just just elevated. I tease him
a lot though he couldn't win another one, uh without me,
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without me, but uh yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Knew he was.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I knew he was because he was a late bloomer Dan.
He really had a lot of talent. And then it
just sturgs as he you know, kept growing and getting
older in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But that's tough because you're the college player of the year.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Right yeah, along with raph Sampson.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah yeah, So all of a sudden, Mike comes in
and you go okay, and then all of a sudden
you go damn Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah. I knew he saved us. I knew it was.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Right around the AHCC tournament he started to really you know,
make himself known against Virginia and some of those guys
Lead Raker and Jeff Lambino's guys, Michael hit some big shots. Okay,
you go back and look at that game. When you
look at the Georgetown game, we were kind of, you know, losing.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
He had a big left hand shot over over ewing
one from the corner, and then, of course, you know
the big shot he hit in Georgetown. I had to
beat the decoy, of course, that's why. That's why he
was But yeah, I knew he was.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I knew he was. I knew he had it man.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, we're talking to James Worthy of the Hall of Famer.
I was recalling a conversation we had years ago when
you were talking about when Magic hitched the sky hook
in the garden and Boston still has one possession left
and you have one job to do. Yeah, don't lose
sight of Larry Bird.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I failed. I failed.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
How did you lose sight of Larry Bird?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know, Larry was so smart that I don't know
what they ran the play called, but he diagrammed something
where Danny Ainge was in the corner right, So I
had Hooper between you know, me and Danny Ainge. So
I was trying to to deny Larry Bird. And then
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when the referee gating the ball, I realized what was happening,
but it was too late. He kept pushing me up
a little bit, and then Danny Ainge cleared out and
that whole side was open. And when that ball was
in the air, I was like, I'd already thrown the
ball away in Game two in nineteen eighty four, and
(21:00):
now I'm thinking, what a defensive dummy allowed him to
get the ball? He saw me coming, he didn't have
much time, and I think he did see me out
of the out of his eye, but he doesn't miss
that shot.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So I just was lucky, very eleckly.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
How tough was Riley on you guys?
Speaker 5 (21:20):
He was tough.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It was there was a time when players would accept
the truth and they would you know, they would accept
where the coach was coming from. Criticized. Yeah, we got
pissed sometime, but the video didn't lie.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
It was old school roles. He prepared us, and you
know he had the team as one. You know, Kareem
and Magic started that before I got there. They realized
that he was very, very tough. But that's what it took.
In the eighties, man, it was hard to get past
Utah and Dallas and San Antonio and Rales kept us,
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you know, he kept us to float for many, many years,
and you know we appreciated it, even when he made
the guarantee that you know, we won in eighty seven
and he guaranteed that, and most of them was hung
over that morning and we were like, what did he
just say?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
But he knew, he knew we needed that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
He knew because the Lakers had won one championship here
and there, he knew that's what we needed. And that
kind of philosophy, and you know, psychiatry worked with us.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Who's the best player in the NBA right now, I'll
give you the number one pick.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Who's who's the best player in the NBA right now?
I would have to say Yochas the Joker, I'm sorry,
the Joker from Denver three times MVP. He's he's Kareem
at dul Jabbar, Magic Johnson, all wound and want. He
can do it at all and you know what he
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does most of all and besides his individual play, he
makes his teammates so much better with his passion the building.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
He's a people movie. He's puts his.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Hands up, he moves people out of the way, and
before you know it, he's in a threat area and
he has I have not seen a touch like that
since Koreem. He doesn't have a sky hook, but he
has a jump hook and if the ball touches the rim,
it's usually going in. So I think I like his attitude,
his preparation, his teamwork, ability to get his team gathered.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You're an analyst for a Spectrum sportsnet with the Lakers,
so I'm curious about this that if the Lakers they're
keeping their seventeenth overall pick in the first round, that
the Pelicans decline taking that because the draft is better
next year. Could you see a scenario, James where the
Lakers use the seventeenth overall pick on Brownie James?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah, I could, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Unfortunately, I don't want to say unfortunately, but it's just
the way the league has grown in the trend of
what's happening social media, you know, load management, just so
much going on, and I think Lebron stands in the
same as like Griffin Senior and Griffy Junior, you.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Know, Gordie Howell and his sons.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
He wants to get it done, even if it's just
for a week. So I could see them, you know,
you know, maybe being on the Laker team or the
G League, and then there's a big national game coming
up in a couple of weeks, they'll pull him up
and there you'll have it, son and father playing. So yeah,
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I mean, I don't. I mean Brown, he's got a
lot to prove. I think, you know, I think it's
combined was pretty good. So we'll see. It's six to one.
It'll be a challenge, but it could be done. We've
seen others.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Did you ever exchange jerseys with players when you were playing?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
No, I didn't. I didn't ask for nothing and didn't
give nothing away.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
No, did you later in life? Did you ask for
like a as Isaiah jersey or a Bird jersey or
Jordan jersey? No?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Now I think I I think I took a pair
of Michael's you and c practice jersey somewhere, but that
was Collins.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Just I've probably donated, uh, you know, more stuff like
an All Star jersey to a charity than I'd asked
for anything. You want, guy, do I've actually the guys
to help donate to a to a cause, but not personally.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You ever wonder what your career life would have been
like if you had gone to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, and I talk about that a lot because had
Ralph Sampson decided to go for a go his senior year,
Ralph would have gone first, Dominate, probably would have gone second,
Terry Cummings would have been and I probably would have
stayed my senior year and tried to get another championship. So,
I mean, you never know how I would have gone.
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Cleveland had some really good teams. They was just because
of Michael Jordan. If they didn't advance, so it might
have been they'd have had me to guard Michael, they
might have advanced to the final.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
So so you would have been the Jordan's stopper.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I locked him up. Yeah, you gotta be verbal with Michael.
You gotta be verbal, you gotta talk. You gotta talk trash,
and you know you can't get in his head, but
you gotta make it fun. I'm not I know if
I'd have stopped him to it with a few hard fires.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't want to upset him though. James.
It feels like if you're you know, like bird, I don't.
I would never want to start talking trash with some
of these guys.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
It seemed to make them better. Gotta meet force with force.
Two of the biggest trash talkers in the league. Why
not if they're doing it, you don't get your ass
busted anyway, you might as well get it busted.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Going down talking. I'm gonna win one of the vibers.
I'm gonna win trash talking or something.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Wait, I would think Bird would have respect for you,
that he wouldn't give you grief.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Ever, talked a lot to me because he knew I
bought the thunder, I bought.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
The pain I had.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I had to guard him. I had to guard him
up until like fourth quarter. Then we turned it over
to Michael Cooper. But I got many clips, many clips
of me waxing Maxwell and Barr and ducking. I mean,
they don't they don't.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
He didn't. He didn't say a lot to me.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, I was the guy you didn't want to I
was the guy you didn't want to get kicked off.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Look at you. You're too nice a guy.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I think you know when you're sixty three. He talked craft.
That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Great to catch up with you again. Thanks for joining
us as always.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
James, you got it day. Good to see you brother.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
That's James Worthy, Hall of Famer and Laker Anlys for
a Spectrum Sports Net. I brought it up. It's an oh,
by the way, when the Pelicans said we'll let you
keep that draft pick, they had the opportunity to take
the seventeenth overall pick or they could move it to
next year. So they're gonna move it to next year.
And I just thought, if the Lakers are on the
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clock at seventeen, and maybe you have some kind of
agreement in place with Lebron, hey, come back, sign you know,
an extension, and if Bronnie is there at seventeen, we'll
take him for you. I don't think it's too far fetched,
and James even saying, no, it's not, and then I
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agree that, you know, he just needs to play a
little bit more. He needs a full season, and maybe
that'll be in the G League. But let's say the
Lakers are going to be national TV and Lebron says, hey,
can you bring up Bronni just so America gets to
see him in a game with Dad. I don't know
if he would make the roster. Maybe it would be
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one of those that you know, we'll have you down
there for a little bit we'll bring you up for
a little bit. I don't think it's out of the
question that Lakers and Lebron in partnership in unison, would
take Bronnie with that seventeenth overall pick. Yempoem.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
How does Laker management sell that to the fans, taking
a player who should be a mid second rounder in
the middle of the first round for the future of
the franchise.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, here's another thing that's going on. Ronnie James is
not the fifty fourth best prospect, but the Lakers have
the fifty fourth pick in the second round, and I
think it's fifty fourth pick. So now all of a sudden,
these mock drafts are kind of placing Bronnie as the
fifty third, fifty fourth, fifty fifth best pick, and so
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therefore the Lakers of course would take him because he's
the next guy, best guy available, and he's not you know,
he's he can't be just based off performance, certainly health.
You're basing this off of his dad. If his dad,
you know, was somebody different, you know, somebody who didn't
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play in the NBA, we would not say, oh, Bronnie James, Yeah,
seeing the kid, he looks okay, you wouldn't he wouldn't
get drafted. And and I'm just basing this off what
I saw at USC and even with the combine, I
mean he they listed him at six ' three, he's not.
He's six one and a half. Well, that's different. That's
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big because he's going to be a defender, point guard,
backup point guard, and just the physicality with that size wise,
and I think he's a better shooter than his dad
was when his dad first came in, not as good
a passer, and obviously nowhere near the size of his dad.
And it's not like he's gonna have a growth spurt,
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you know, Lebron's other son. He's the one that's going
to be, you know, good size Lebron's size. So I'm
just looking at it and just being realistic about it.
Would I like to see Bronnie play in the NBA? Yes,
I mean Hollywood's full of nepotism. You might as well
have that right there in Hollywood with the Lakers. That's
exactly what it is. Yes, Mark.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
The one thing that I loved about sports, that I
love about sports is that like who your dad is
or who your mom is doesn't matter. Austin Rivers became
a lottery pick because he was good enough to be
a lottery pick.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
And I think this.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Right here, wh whoa back row is Scots?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
You don't think that had helped that Austin River's father
was a professional basketball player.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
How about we hold off here, Come on, let me
take a break. We'll come back. We'll give everybody a
chance to respond to Marvin's claim. There back after.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
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Speaker 2 (31:41):
Right, before the commercial break, Marvin was talking about nepotism
or anti nepotism, and you're talking about Doc rivers son
and that he earned his way into the NBA. And
then Seaton was ready to object. So state your case
about Austin Rivers and his worthiness of going into the NBA.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Well, Austin Rivers was a top five recruit coming out
of high school. And you're not a top five recruit
just because of who your dad's, Doc Rivers, Right, Okay, great,
there's plenty of second generation guys that play high school basketball.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
There aren't top five recruits.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
And he went to Duke coach k isn't just taking
him because he's Doc rivers kid. And on top of that,
he's picked tenth overall by the Pelicans. Doc Rivers doesn't
have anything to do with the Pelicans. So that's all
I was saying, And he earned his way into being
a lottery.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Pick seating you would like to respond, I just don't
know that if Doc Rivers was actually Doctor Rivers and
it never played a second of basketball in his whole life,
if Austin son, Austin would still be going to Duke
and all of those things.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, Pauline, I think it's between what these guys are saying.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
I think when you're a young athlete in any sport
and your father was very successful at sport, you get
eyeballs that you may not normally get. You get recruited
where you may not normally get. What I really think
it helps you is remember when Chris long was the
number one pick of the draft out of Virginia. He's
a son of how He Longed.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
We all know that.
Speaker 11 (33:09):
I'm looking at draft profiles and they actually say he's
a safe pick because he comes from a football family.
He knows the lifestyle, he knows about being an NFL player,
work ethic, etc. I think it helps you get drafted,
maybe a touch higher than you might because they trust
your family and your delivery to the NFL.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Marvin No, I like what Paul he said right there, Okay,
but I still think because of his performance at Duke
and in high school, he became a top ten pick
in the draft.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, I had no problem with him getting picked where
he got picked. Do I think he probably got more
attention because of his dad, Yes, but sometimes like Ronnie
James has got more attention, but he's got negative attention
because now we tune in and we go he's nothing special,
Whereas maybe if he's just a regular player now he's
not drafted. If he's a regular player, he's going to
get drafted because of his dad, but he's going to
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prove that he belongs in the NBA because of him,
not his dad.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Yeah, setn And like to me, it's like, it isn't
just the attention because of your parent. It's is Tim
Hardaway Junior in the NBA Finals or you know, playing
right now if his father Tim isn't teaching him how
to play the game from the day he was born.
Absolutely not if it wasn't, he had probably had a
(34:28):
ball in his head his whole life.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Okay, that's not nepotives. That's just preparation. That's just showing
you what I can do, and it's up to you
to perform at that level. I think that's the beauty
about sports. And when you talked about you know certain
actors or actresses that get opportunities because of who their
mom or dads are. Yeah, then that's a different animal.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes, we see that in Hollywood, where there's nepotism. Somebody's
going to get an opportunity to be in a movie
or a sitcom because of their parents.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yes.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
The media is really funny with it because I think
media expects an athlete, a young athlete, be just as
good as their father or their uncle. I'm looking at
stories about Arch Manning when he was a junior in
high school and they say, I can't wait till he's
the number one pick of the twenty twenty six draft.
That could happen. It's very possible to happen. He hasn't
been able to start yet for Texas. Yeah, but it's
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the media always takes it two steps forward with athletes
whose dads were awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, we're never going to let you develop on time
or normally. It's you know, we want to fast track you, like, oh,
you know, freshman in high school. We're gonna see how good.
Uh it could be the number one pick on the drive. Why, well,
this is based off of what your dad did or
your uncle did, nephew did. That's not fair to the kid.
(35:43):
But you know, life's not fair. I tell that to
Marvin all the time. Marvin stopped complaining life's not fair.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm sorry, I'll stop, Okay, But I think in c
And sees this also like one of those different mixtapes
like Hoop Mixtape on Ball's Life, it's a Carlos Boozer's son,
Carmelo Anthony's sun shines at this camp or this camp.
So yes, that part absolutely I agree with. But I
think it's up to the player to, you know, perform
(36:10):
what he needs.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
We know you have to. I can get you to
a certain level here, I can get you to the
door you open it, and how long you stay when
you get in, it's up to you. It's not like,
you know, are they going to keep Brownie James on
the Lakers when Lebron's not there anymore, Probably not unless
he's earned that. A couple of phone calls Bryanton Virginia,
(36:32):
Hi Bryant, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (36:35):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (36:35):
DP, good to be back on fifth time on never
give him my heighter weight. So five nine and a medium.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
We'll go with that.
Speaker 12 (36:44):
Best and worst of the weekend best kind of like
other callers. Connor McDavid gettingto the finals. I actually grew
up in Heree, Pennsylvania, and I know as a fifteen
year old he was drafted there as an HL of
the otters, and I got to say, coming in as
a one million dollar contract and everything at fifteen, he
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handled it awesome, lived up to every expectation, never heard
anything negative about him in a smaller city like hear
and that was pretty awesome to see. So it's good
to see him to get to the finals. It works
for the weekend having to do with Bronni. Unfortunately, the
Lakers getting that pick is sabotaging the ultimate plan of
my Raptors getting Browny at nineteen to get Lebron back
(37:30):
or Lebron too Toronto to bring a new new meeting
to that Lebronto term that we've all heard so all right.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Thank you. Brian Terrence in Texas. Hey Terrence, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. TH's the weekend?
Was watching the MAVs clinch? And was it the worst
of this weekend? What's the worst so the last weekend?
I'm going to kind of need some advice on this.
I'm the newest member of the DNC. My mom passed
away last Friday, and I'm now preparing a eulogy. I'm
(38:04):
kind of wanting to know from a Mark TONI Winner,
how should I handle speaking in front of a bunch
of people about my mom's amazing life?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay, do you cry easily?
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a big baby dude.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Okay, Well, I think telling stories that make people laugh,
make them smile, that you want, you know, when you
remember mom, you know, here's a story that comes to mind,
and then you give maybe another story what she meant
to you, what she meant to other people. And I
(38:39):
also think brevity is the is your friend, and no
matter what speech you give, brevity can be your friend.
And I think always keep that in mind. If there's
other people who need to get up there but leave
them smiling, let them always remember a story that you
told about your mom at her eulogy. I appreciate man,
(38:59):
Thank you, and good luck Terrence.
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Yeah, Paul, I think it's good advice because there's lots
of people probably at this funeral that don't have a
ton of time left and they want to use it wisely.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
You don't do a twenty minute speech.
Speaker 11 (39:10):
Three minutes and a couple of good stories.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, I don't know about they don't have much time left,
Like they're going to die during the ulish term a
couple of years after. Come on, I'm gonna die out here. Hey,
we're dying out here. Wait you mean that literally? Yes?
Yes see.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I once knew a fella who was a funeral director
who would often go to events such as that or
weddings and things like that and wait for a certain
age group of the crowd to get out there. And
one of his favorite jokes was a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Out there right now.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Wows a lot of money out there right now?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's a new roof for the house. Wow. Wow, I
get that line of business. You gotta have a good
sense of humor. I don't know. I was in a
moment where somebody was having a stroke as we're picking
out my mom's casket. And and as we're in this
room picking out my mom's casket, and a family member
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had a stroke, and like we didn't, we're panicking, And
we always laugh now that the funeral director was sizing
up the person who might die right there, like, hey,
a two for one. We can give you a two
for here. Your mom, we got her casket, and this
gentleman right here having a stroke, we like to.
Speaker 11 (40:29):
Offer you the second casket at fifty percent of oh special.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh I got to have the coupon on you in
your hand. But if you're a funeral director, don't you
size up people at certain ages where you go, okay,
you're you know, whatever size casket it's going to be.
You know, when you walk into a watch store, first
thing they do is look at your watch. You go
in to buy shoes. They want to see what kind
of shoes you have on you walk in, See how
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healthy you are. Oh that's a bad cough. Yeah yeah,
what size are you?
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Half time, you look like you're around five nine to
five ten. Right there, you lay down for me. I
just want to see you get the first time two
hours in the books already, where did the fun Go,
there's more. There's more to come, at least I hope
we're going to try Final Hour on the Way by
(41:22):
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