October 8, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Nuts Dan Patrick Show, and Mike Greenberg will stop by.
Greeney will stop buying. About twenty minutes from now. Got
baseball this afternoon and tonight. Checking the weather forecast in Detroit.
They had their game delayed yesterday, but it looks like
clear sailing in Detroit. Also Chicago, also New York and
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Los Angeles. So it's three oh eight, five oh eight,
seven oh eight, nine oh eight Eastern time, your playoff baseball.
Aaron Judge carries the Yankees to a nine to six
win as they stave off elimination. The Mariners are up
to one in their series against the Tigers. Bengals acquired
Joe Flacco from the Browns. Still not sure why the
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Browns would help out the Bengals in that situation, because
they did help out the Bengals, because you know, what
are the other Bengal options that they would have, Maybe
Russell Wilson, maybe a big swing for Kirk Cousins. Joe
Flacco is an upgrade, not a big upgrade at this
stage of his career, but still if you got a guy.
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If you protect him, have him in the pocket, and
you have receivers, then Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening, but
they have to be more threatening than they have been.
Eight seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by.
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock. That is our
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paper streaming now only on Peacock. We will upgrade and
update our poll questions and Jimmy Rollins former MVP is
Jimmy Rollins borderline Hall of Famer. I didn't really look
at his numbers, and then Todd said, Jimmy Rollins's going
to join us. I knew he won an MVP and
a three time All Star. Don't know what else he
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has as far as credentials, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, I've got that three time All Star, one MVP,
he never finished top five, another MVP, a bunch of
goal gloves, very good playoff numbers. It feels like unlikely.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was very good. Yeah, Okay, there was a time
before he was the guy. Short period of time, well
one year he asked the guy how many career hits
and fifty five. Okay, all right, I'd say you got
somebody's attention. I would think, I don't know what's the
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best he's finished. Is he still on the ballot, the
Hall of Fame ballot? Be curious about that. While you
look at that seat, would you give me the poll
results from the first hour and our poll question for
hour two?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Most BCW in sports? Well or just baseball? Judge Otani,
Riley Raley other Right now, Otani has about forty six
percent of that vote. Raleigh and Judge are splitting about
twenty five percent.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And that's a bathroom can wait?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, that's bathroom can wait. We also have this one
from Marvin after Joe the Joe Flacco trade, What should
the realistic expectations of the Bengals be? That's a division title,
wild card, AFC Championship game or no playoffs?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right now? No playoffs?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Has seventy three percent of that phone.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, all right, I'm gonna look at the glass half
full with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yes, Paulin twenty twenty five Hall of Fame voting, Jimmy
Rollins got seventy one votes. That's eighteen percent. He needs
to be on seventy five percent of the ballots to
get in.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, but you have to have a certain number of
votes to stay on the ballot. Yes, is he staying
on the ballot checking, because that will be the key? Okay,
all right, we'll get to some phone calls here. Mentioned
the baseball last night, cal Raley homeward with the MS
over the Tigers and Aaron j pretty impressive so far
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in that series and hit a bomb. And this is
what it sounded like last night.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
There's the Pits high flight ball deep left field, down
the left field line.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
It is off the fair pole.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Hey now, hey, now.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Hey, now overever this game is fined, it's six sex.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, some enthusiasm from our favorite Yankee broadcaster, Dave Simms.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Playing to the craft.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yes, he's playing to his crowd, his fans.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Yankee fans are tuning in.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
They want to hear the excitement of the big home run.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay, Christ and Syracuse, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Hey? Thanks Dan?
Speaker 9 (04:47):
Hey, I wanted to mention a couple of things off
of quarterbacks making tackles. Yesterday, Paul mentioned that Cam Newton's
career was really affected by a tackle that he made
where he got injured. And I found that interesting that
and that won Super Bowl. That balls on the ground
and he wanted to have nothing to do with it.
And I know it's somewhat reactionary, but I think qbs
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really need to pick their spots when they tackled like
Dak in the opening of this year against Philadelphia made
that great diving tackle that saved a touchdown and that
was a close game at the time, and if CD
had made a couple of those plays at the end
of the game, that could have been the difference between
winning and losing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I'm okay. If you're going to make a swipe
tackle at somebody's foot like Dak did, I just don't
want you being like Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck became a
linebacker every time, and he admitted that he'd throw an interception,
he'd be so angry that he wanted to make that tackle.
You can't. And Mahomes was trying to make, you know,
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kind of a swipe tackle, and he did alter the defender,
you know a little bit, but you go low in
that situation. But uh, you know, I have no problem
if my quarterback is I'm going to stay out of
the out of the fray, because the thing that I'm
worried about is not the tackle you're going to make,
it's every one of those defenders who get a free
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shot at you because now you're not a quarterback, You're
just a regular player, and that's when you get blasted.
Let's see Row in Missouri? Hi Row, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (06:20):
Hey Dan? Dan Ass? How are you? I'm first time caller.
I'm really excited, longtime listener, four ten hundred and five pounds.
My question is, what do you think Jerry Jones fine
is going to be? You know, that's what he's going
to get, right.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Uh? Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?
Speaker 10 (06:40):
Okay, I missed that. I'm sorry. And then I had
one other question, not a question, but a comment.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know, you were talking.
Speaker 10 (06:48):
About the fist pumps. You go in for the fist pump,
the handshake. I'm a little girl, a little young woman whatever,
and I always go in for the hard handshake.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay. Well I'll read that Row when I see you,
and I go, okay, I'm supposed to give you a
firm handshake. Thank you, Roe. I appreciate that. Yeah, Jared
Jones two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Jonathan Gannon got
one hundred thousand dollars for his altercation on the sidelines
Grant in Oregon. Hey Grant, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (07:19):
Hey morning man, first time caller six' one two fifteen. Hey,
I just wanted to talk a little bit more about
that Jonathan Gannon situation. Obviously, I don't think it's right
for him to ever put his hands on any sort
of a player, but I think it does reflect a
little bit of the emotion in the business stress it's
put on, especially an NFL head coach, where those situations
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like that matter, and his coaching life in the NFL
and that kind of game determines whether or not he
continues as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I get it. You know, I've seen some of
the great coaches in history. I mean whaty Hayes at
the end of his career was trying to take on
a defender who was at Charlie Bowman the interception Clemson
in a bowl game. Lou Holtz has gone on to
the field, Bill Cower's gone. I mean, these coaches they preach,
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you know, having some kind of decorum, you know, keep
your cool, you know, don't. Bob Knight would do that
all the time. And he was the worst offender with it,
you know. And I have no problem with the NFL
or the Cardinals finding him one hundred thousand dollars. I mean,
he knew he did something wrong. That's why he the
day before apologized because it didn't look good. Yes time.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Now, is that supposed to be some kind of teaching moment?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I know, you lose.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
You can't analyze it too much in the moment you
have your emotions or in the back of your mind
like that. That kind of plant's going to get me fired.
I got my family here, and people do stupid things
like that. You know how much of that sometimes You
never know in the back recesses of your mind. If
the season's not going well and it's more selfish, it's
only not a teaching moment to get in someone's face
like that and touch them. Well, they are less likely
to do it because you put your hands on them.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, I don't think that you're that Certainly he wasn't
a teaching moment for him. I mean it can be,
but you know, you have to have your act together.
And plus he's coaching for the Cardinals. He might not
be coaching for the Cardinals next year, and every one
of these games they have that game, there's no way
they can lose that game until they found a way
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to lose that game. And he's probably fed up with
it and he knows he's coaching for his job. Yeah, Paul,
I disagree a little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think it's a I liked Jonathan Gannon going over
to yell at his player. This guy purposely dropped the
ball before the goal line. If he doesn't get physical,
I'm fine with Jonathan Gannon airing him out in person,
right there on the sidelines and from everybody, right up
to the point where he put his hands on him.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah. Having been a person who's been yelled at, I
mean it's embarrassing because everybody's watching. I was sent to
the showers in the first half of a basketball game
when I was in high school because we were killing
King's Mill, killing him and my dad had traveled all
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night next day to get to the game, and all
of a sudden, the coach says, Hey, I'm going to
put in this second string, and I think I said why,
and then my coach told me to shower, So I
had to walk. I had to walk of shame in
the first half. So I made it seem like my
contact lens came out and that I was just going.
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And then I'm down in the locker room at halftime
and I'm thinking, God, this is embarrassing. And so I
had to eat it because I talked back to my
coach and I he didn't yell at me or you know,
he embarrassed me. But it taught me a lesson. I mean,
it was a great moment of learning, even though I
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didn't learn anything until later when I analyzed it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, Paulin, so you guys were up big, You were
a starter and he just was rotating in the backups
because it was a blowout and you want him more
at the time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he was very judicial when it
came to giving playing time, and and uh, you know,
I'm I'm there, I'm killing King's mill their arrival, I'm
want to put up some big numbers. My dad flown
cross country and I get there, I think he sits
down and we have a time out and I end
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up getting pulled for the game. Yes time.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Why is saying why that disrespectful? Is that just a
different era that you know some people can't relate to
today's kids.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yes, yes, that's how.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Dare you demand an explanation for me?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
The coaches to well you, this is the decision.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
You don't ask why.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I never, I never ever would speak to my coaches.
That was the only time. But it was like in
the moment, I'm going why, like why aren't we supposed
to be in there and dominating? And but you know
our coach was saying, I want to play the other guys.
I was just being selfish.
Speaker 12 (11:49):
Yes, Marvin, that's the same generation who answers because I said,
so that's that generation.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, my generation. And I've used that before with
my kids. Well why and you know you didn't go
to school, you didn't study because I said, so, that's it.
Let's see Tommy in the outer Banks. I Tommy, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (12:14):
Dan and the dants. Thank you so much for taking
our call. I don't know how much you're you feel
you're appreciated. I know you put a lot of work
into what you do, a lot of show prep, a
lot of meetings, all hours of the day, and people
only here just a few hours of what you do.
(12:36):
But I know that a lot more goes into it,
and you've made my wife so much happier with what
you're doing. She's doing endometrial and servical cancer and going
through radiation and chemo, and she really can't speak on
the phone, but wanted me to call in regards to
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I guess you were talking about DraftKings and the offensive
Rookie of the Year as an issue. We're both Jack fans.
Hopefully you'll lean that way. Do you have any opinions
on defensive Rookie of the year and defensive player of
the year.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, Tommy, my best to your wife. I'm glad that
if we can put a smile on her face. Abdul
Carter is the defensive rookie of the Year right now,
and Jahad Campbell is second, and so I think Abdul
Carter by default. I don't know if anybody's really distinguished themselves,
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but Abdul Carter and you play for the Giants. Giants
have a Thursday night game against the Eagles, so you
get a standalone game against that Eagle the weapons that
they have.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, PAULI, Yeah, Abdul Carter, like you said, it's kind
of default. He's playing a lot not a lot of
other rookies making any defensive impact yet.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I don't know about defensive Player of the Year.
I don't. I haven't really explored that, but I don't.
I haven't seen any odds for that. We'll see if
the DraftKings has that. Dustin in South Ben, Hi, Dustin,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (14:20):
Hello?
Speaker 13 (14:21):
Je, Just a couple of snack suggestions. Where you guys
are in town? Yesterday's in Granger and i'd also tell
you Testin's over in lafort All about twenty minutes from
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
All right, Well, thank you, Dustin. Getting some nice suggestions
from the fans from South Ben. We'll be out there
next Thursday and Friday. Let's take a break. Mike Greenberg
has a book, new book, and we'll talk to him.
Been a while since we've chatted with Greeney. Also in
an hour from now, Jimmy rawlins. He's doing baseball for TBS,
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the former Philly great as the Phillies trying to stave
off getting eliminated, getting swept and boy, you can point
fingers at the top of the lineup. They Trey Turner,
Bryce Harper, Schwarber. I think they have three hits and
three for twenty one maybe something like that. But give
credit to the Dodgers starting pitching. It's been great. Well
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take a break. Greeney joins us next year Dan Patrick Show.
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us ready for the Phillies and the Dodgers. So you
got all four games, all four series coming up today
and tonight. He's Mike Greenberg. He is ESPN's host of
Get Up, also Sunday NFL Countdown, and has a new
book out called Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises
and their most iconic figures. He collaborated with his great producer, Hembo,
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and he's ranking the NFL, NBA, Baseball, NHL franchises from
best to worst and a mount rushmore of legends for
each the book Got Your Legends. Greene, good to talk
to you again, Dan, you come up with the idea about.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
This, Well, I'll tell you all about the book in
the second But first and foremost, it is always a
thrill and an honor for me to be on here
with you and the guy. So hello to everybody and second,
I need you to settle a bet for me. Were
you at the Nate Bargatsey concert at Madison Square Garden
two weeks ago? Yes, okay, I thought so. So I
(17:32):
was sitting there and someone walked by and I said,
I'm ninety nine percent sure that's Dan Patrick, and Stay
said go find you know, go say hello, and I
said I will, and I got up and I couldn't
find you. You had walked in and you kind of walked,
you made like a turn, you went around a curve.
I don't know where you went, and then I couldn't
find you. And the people I was with said, that
wasn't Dan Patrick. And you don't know Dan If you
(17:53):
went over to talk to Dan Patrick, you wouldn't even
know who you were. And I said, I guarantee you
Dan Patrick would know who I was.
Speaker 16 (17:59):
I'm going to find him.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
And I spent I was distracted through the entire Jimmy
Fallon portion of the evening trying to find you, and
I never did again. So I am now confirming on
the record that was indeed you.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yes, it was. I went with my family, had a
great time, and his dad was great up there. Jimmy
Fallon was great up there, and I had not seen Nate.
I'd seen his stand up on Netflix. And my daughter's
the one who said, Dad, you'll love him because it's
just everyday situations that he's talking about that we can
all relate to. But he does it in a, you know,
(18:36):
an impressive way. And I met him backstage afterwards. And
you see Chris Rock there, Well, that's testament to how
good you are that Chris is coming out to watch
you perform.
Speaker 16 (18:46):
So Jimmy Fallon is opening for you.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know that you know something. And we saw him.
We had friends who had had been turned on to him,
and so we went to see him at Radio City
maybe a year and a half so ago before he
blew up so big that he's now hosting the Emmys
and all of that. And it sort of led to
an interesting debate, which is can you laugh too loudly
at a comedy show?
Speaker 16 (19:10):
My wife yelled at me.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Here's another of those that I was laughing too loudly,
and I said, you know, honey, I really think the
comedian probably likes it when you laugh loudly. Sort of
the idea of the entire exercise. So I got, I got,
I got chastened for laughing too much at the Nate
Bargatsy concert.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, I'm sure Nate would be fine, although there are
times when you can hear a stand up act and
you can hear a laughter that might be annoying. Yes,
like there's now I don't know if if it was
high I don't know how your laugh is, but if
it's high pitched or something, then he probably would have
singled you out and made fun of you.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yeah, And I was not close enough to the stage
at Radio City that he would have he would have
heard it.
Speaker 16 (19:56):
She was convinced I was drowning him out for the
people around us.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Anyway, I'm glad that we that. Thank you for taking
care of that for me. How's everything else going?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Everything spectacular? So you dive into this topic not an
easy topic to kind of Well, it's not one topic,
it's a variety of them. But when did you decide that,
all right, America needs this?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
So I had this idea. It's the third book that
we've done Hambo and I. So if you know Himbo,
his research is ridiculous, like he is whatever the geniuses
are at NASA that like put are eventually going to
put a man on Jupiter. That's what Himbo is to
sports research, and during COVID I had this idea. It
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just came up from an idle conversation we were having with
someone you'll remember, Pete mcconvill from ESPN, who's one of
the few people who has been around as long as
you and I, and about which players own each individual numbers,
like the uniform numbers like twenty three clearly belongs to
Michael Jordan and ninety nine belongs to Wayne Gretzky, But
how about all these other numbers? Who owns them? And
(21:00):
I thought that might make an interesting book. So we
did a book called Got Your Number, in which we
assigned that who owns every number from one to one hundred,
and candidly, it sold better than the publisher expected it to,
so they said, come up with another idea. So then
I figured, I've been doing sports talk for thirty years,
so we came up with the book. The second one
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was called Got Your Answers, in which we picked the
one hundred best sports debate topics and sort of using
his research, answered them, and that also did well. So
we had another idea. Heimbo said, let's do the Mount
Rushmore's you and I have both done, and so as
every sports fan, and frankly, it goes beyond sports. Wat's
the mount Rushmore of this? What's the mount Rushmore of
rock guitarists? What's the mount rush More of stand up comedians?
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The mount Rushmore of this or that or the other.
So we decided, using his research, to come up with
the mount Rushmore of every team in the fourth sports,
as you just said, the NFL, the NBA, the NHL,
and Major League Baseball, And so we chose those and
then it was my job to write it. The way
we do the books is he does the research and
then I do the writing. I sat down to write
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it and I realized, we don't really have a construct
for how we're going to lay them out. So do
we just do them by sport? Do we do them alphabetically?
Neither of None of the ideas I had seemed interesting.
So we said, well, hell with it. Let's just rank
all of the teams from the best one to the
bottom one. So the best one is the Yankees, and
some of the teams that have just come into existence
are down at the bottom. And using winning percentage and
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championships and all sorts of other things. So the book
sort of has two separate areas for debate, which is,
did you agree with the people that we chose to
be the Mount Rushmoores of literally every team?
Speaker 16 (22:35):
And then do you agree with the way that we
ranked them?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
And whether you agree or disagree. Hopefully it'll be fun
to read. And what I like the most about it
because I Dan grew up reading a ton of sports
history books.
Speaker 16 (22:46):
I read a lot about sports history.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
And I feel like that's sort of a lost art,
if indeed that is an art.
Speaker 16 (22:53):
Not enough of that going on.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So there's a ton of sports history and it there's
a ton. With his research, there's a ton.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You will learn a.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Ton about athletes you may not know a whole lot
about because some of them are contemporary, but some of
them are played decades and in some cases even a
century ago. So hopefully, whether you agree or disagree, you'll
learn some stuff about some of the great athletes of
all time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What's the sports debate that leaves you frustrated?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Well, I mean the contemporary ones, like the what my
mind goes to when you ask me that question, are
what are the go tos that those of us who
did sports talk that depended on phone calls, which is
what I used to do before I came to ESPN.
I started out and you were working your way up,
like as a TV guy CNN and ESPN and Sports
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Center and everything.
Speaker 16 (23:43):
I came a different route.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I came from sort of the traditional you call this
number right now, and let's have this argument. So I
go back to the ones that were just like on
a slow day, you just throw this question out and
they would do your show for you. So the big
one in the nineties was does Pete belonging in the
Hall of Fame or not? So I don't know if
it frustrates me, but it's it's a question that people
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are so divided on the people on either side of
it feel so strongly and passionately about their respective sides.
Speaker 16 (24:13):
And this of course was long before Pete died.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
So that it was a really good, fun, easy debate
to throw out there. The Michael versus Lebron thing, now,
I guess is sort of this generation's debate. And I
can tell you that, like, my son is a crazy
basketball fan, grew up playing nothing but basketball.
Speaker 16 (24:31):
He's twenty two and he never stops.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Telling me that Lebron is the greatest player of all time,
and you know it makes me crazy, but you just
had to have seen it.
Speaker 16 (24:41):
I'm I will forever be a Michael guy. I remember
sitting with.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
You in the bowels of the old Chicago Stadium when
I was covering those Bulls teams because I worked locally
in Chicago and you would be in town to cover
the finals. And you'll remember hanging out with like Terry
Bores and Jesse Rodgers, all those guys you used to
hang out with, and those were my friend and so
you were there and I was like, wow, Dan Patrick
is here, and.
Speaker 16 (25:03):
I would just sit at the table and listen.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Anyway, the point is I always tell younger people, if
you didn't watch Michael Jordan play, then I can understand
why you don't know the answer to this question. But
maybe the best way I can explain it is if
there was one game of basketball being played and my
life depended upon the outcome, I would pick Michael Jordan first,
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and then I would make whatever plans you want to
make for the extended future, because he was going.
Speaker 16 (25:29):
To find a way to win better than anyone else would.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
So anyway, those are the two that jump to my
mind when you ask the question. I don't know if
it's exactly what you meant, but that's sort of where
my head went.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
But do you provide information? Does Heimbo provide information so
you can win your sports debates?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
One hundred percent? That's the idea here is that our debates,
particularly in the second book and in this one as well,
every argument we make is based on all of this data.
I mean, in this day and age, there is so
much data and information that's available inside and outside of
sports that we're not really debating. We're telling you the
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data says these four people are the best, or the
data says this guy was the best at this or that. Now,
as you and I both know, no matter how weld you,
I think younger people have a greater appreciation of data
now than people our age. But at the same time,
no one, I don't think anyone thinks that the numbers
tell the entire story. You know, there's a science to it,
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and that's really what is provided in the book. Hopefully
the writing adds a little bit of the art to it,
because in the judgment of anything, there's both of those.
But yes, every single argument that we make in all
three of the books, and especially this one, because we're
literally talking about four people from one hundred and twenty
four different teams. Every single one of them is based,
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for the most part on the research that Hembo does,
which on some level is almost indisputable.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Talking to Mike Greenberg, as a new book out it's
called Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises and their
most iconic figures. Give me the team that was the
toughest to come up with, it's Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Well, the toughest and easiest at the same time probably
was the top team, which is the Yankees. Which is
to say, when you do the Mount Rushmore of the Yankees,
the people you're leaving off, if you pick the top
four people that you're leaving off, they would probably be
better than the Mount Rushmore of almost any other team
in sports. So for I'll just tell you that four
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people not on the Yankees Mount Rushmore are the only
player ever unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame, which
is Mariano Rivera, the face of the sport for two decades,
which is Derek Jeter, the player who won the most
World Series of any in history, which is Yogi Bearra
and the most infamous, notorious, significant important owner in sports
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for a generation, which is George Steinbrenner. So that's Forsome
would probably be as almost as good as just about
once you get past like the you know, the Lakers
and a few of the others, that would probably be
better than the Mount Rushmore of any other team. But
the Yankees had Babe Ruth, Louke Garrig, Joe Demangio, and
Mickey Mantle and then so there's just no in my opinion,
there's no debating those. So that was it was both.
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It was painful to leave the people off that we
left off, but it was easy to choose. I'll tell
you what was hard because we did include some announcers
like Vince Scully is on the Dodgers Mount Rushmore, Bob
Euker is on the Milwaukee Brewers Mount Rushmore. But we
decided in all cases we would break a tie in
the favor of players. There were managers, there were coaches,
there are executives. But in all cases, if oh, the
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light just went out of my office because I didn't
move hold on a second, let me sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 15 (28:45):
That would happen.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Hold On one. Tres Are tough there at the mother
Ship alight, just.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yes, if they think they think the office is empty.
Sorry about that, leaving like Jack Buck off of the
Saint Louis. I've had a lot of people from Saint
Louis that are that we left Jack Buck off of
the Cardinals list and some of the other announcers that
if we were going to include any announces, we should
have gone all the way and put on those like
Ernie Harwell isn't on the Tiger's list, and Jack Buck
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isn't on the Cardinals list, and there are a few others.
Speaker 16 (29:15):
And again, that was.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Really and we write about it. I mean, I write
chapters on every one of these, so their names are
mentioned in all of them. But those were tough decisions
to make. I'll tell you another one. I have some
Green Bay Packer fans, like people who really know the
history of that franchise that are upset that we didn't
include Curly Lambeau. And we do write a lot about him.
Obviously his name is on the stadium, but we I mean,
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you had to put Lombardi on the list, and then
we put the three quarterbacks. It just seems you've got
Bart Starr, you got Brett Fave. You got Aaron Rodgers
all the MVPs that they won. Stars still has the
best postseason winning record of any quarterback in history and
is the only quarterback in the modern era to win
three straight championships. People think it's never been done, but
that's wrong. They just didn't call it the super Bowl
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when he won the first of those three. But he
won three in a row. It felt like those three
had to be on. But there are a lot of
people who think if you don't include Curly Lambeau, you're
making a mistake. So we've had a lot of pushback.
You know, they're really passionate. Fans of different places will
have pretty strong opinions.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I know that you're a pronounced Jets fan, but oh god,
now I don't have any allegiance anymore. When I got
to Sports Center, I shed my allegiance to anything with
the Bengals or the Reds. I just it was easier
for me to do it that way. But you go
to work on that Monday, after a Sunday with the
Jets or after I mean, there's sports depression, but you
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still have to do your job like there's no loss
that affects me. With the Reds or the Bengals, the
teams that I grew up rooting for, where I go
into that next day. But do you just absorb it
like you are you conditioned? You just go, Okay, this
is what it means to be a Jets fan.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
At this point, I think my sports soul is calloused
enough to sort of absorb that, the depression that is
being a Jet fan. It's interesting because I host two
different shows, and this has always been my philosophy, Dan,
and I'm not sure how you see it, but when
you're hosting a show like Sports Center, as you did
for all those years as well as anyone ever did,
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or in my case, when I host the Sunday Morning
Countdown show or when I host the NFL Draft, those
are shows people are not watching because I'm on them.
Speaker 16 (31:31):
They're watching them because they're fans of the sport.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
When I was hosting the NBA, they're watching because they're
fans of the sport. No one but my mother is
watching because they want to hear what I have to say.
And so in those cases, I don't bring my fandom
to that conversation at all. I don't treat the Jets
or any other team that I pay attention to any
differently than I do any other team on talk shows
that are my own shows. So when we were doing
Mike and Mike, or now when I do get up,
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I figure the reason people are watching is because of
your personality. It is because of who you are. They're
tuning in to hear what you have to say about things,
and in those like that's how I got to this.
I didn't play, you know, I didn't. I was I'm
not a former athlete. I'm just a fan. I'm just
a kid who grew up loving sports in the nineteen seventies,
and those are my teams. So I've never made any secret.
Speaker 16 (32:16):
I don't know if I've ever.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Told you this, but the way that started was your
friend and mine, Robin Roberts on the Old on a
Saturday morning sports center. Right before Robin left to do GMA,
I was hosting a Saturday morning sports center with her,
and the Jets were playing a playoff game that night.
And this was before there was Mike and Mike. This
was before any of that, and I had never acknowledged
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what team I rooted for. I would have thought that
that would be totally forgotten, that I would you know,
Norby would call me in and fire me if that
came up on the air. In my own little private way,
I wore a green tie that day. That's it said
nothing of it, just as wearing a green tie. And
then in one of those.
Speaker 16 (32:55):
Little moments that you have for chit chat on.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Sports Center, you know where they would be like that
little interaction and Robin says, greeny, I see that green tie.
Obviously got that on for the big Jets game tonight,
and I thought, oh my god, this is the worst
thing that's ever happened to me. Here I am. I'm
anchoring ESPN News five days a week. They put me
on Sports Center like once a month. I'm getting this chance,
and now I'm getting, you.
Speaker 16 (33:17):
Know, outed as a fan of a team.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
This is going to be the worst.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
Thing that ever happened to me.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
And obviously nothing terrible happened. And then it wasn't until
we started doing Mike and Mike that I thought, well,
what am I going to sit here talking about? You know, like,
what is the We can't just sit here and analyze
a in a dry way. All the x's and o's
of all these games. People want to hear what your
passion is. So we talked about that, and there's no
question I talk about the Jets differently than I do
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other bad teams in the sport. It's just the way
it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Before I let you go, Fritzy, who you know well,
wants to try out as an announcer for Get Up
and he has a get Up tease that he would
like to read for you. So, Todd, Todd, you ready.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Let's do it? Okay, good morning.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You thought the Yankees were done, but who are we
to judge? The captain spread some Tuesday night fever as
the Bronx bombers are staying alive. It took a while
to get things racing in the Motor city and then
Seattle slew.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Did lebron make the wrong decision? Again?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Wait until you, Henna see the reaction would be a
sobering end for the Cubs with old Milwaukee brotherly glove.
Can the Fills catch up with those artful Dodgers? An
angry bird is fined in Arizona? And are you fine
with Jerry's bird flip explanation? If a drops on the
ice and no one saw it, did it really happen?
Speaker 12 (34:34):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
The NHL is underway, and he got reciped from the
Dog pat in Cleveland by Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
We'll tell you why. It's not whack though. For the
Bengals to buy into Flacco, it's time to get up.
That is very well done, Fritzy. You only missed one thing. Somehow,
some way. You have to get the Cowboys in. I
mean you can't. We can't possibly do it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's true, you can't. Well no, we had Jerry's Jerry
flipping off the crowd, so we did squeeze in. Cowboy
didn't get Dack in, but you got you got Jerry
and oh.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I, miss I must have been laughing over that one.
That's extraordinarily well done. I will steal most of those
puns from you. I particularly like Seattle slew. That one
goes for those who remember. That's a very well played one.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thanks h Greenee, good to talk to you. Good luck
with the book, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Great to see you call. It is a delight to
be on. Great to see you Dan and everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Thank you, Thank you Greenie. The book is called Get
Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises their most iconic figures.
He's Mike Greenberg. All right, Tod, there you go. You
keep talking your way back to Yeah. Once this show's over,
you'll be like, hey, Greenee, remember me? Are you texting
(35:45):
Greenee right now? Great appearance.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
As soon as you go to break.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
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Speaker 2 (36:04):
Some A caller asked the defensive player of the year
according to DraftKings right now, Aiden Hutchinson is your favorite,
followed by Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, Nick, Benito, the Broncos. Heck, yeah,
he's one of those guys that you don't know him,
but then you watch the game and you're like, why
don't I know this guy?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Who's that number?
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Fifteen? Breaking through?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah? Thank you?
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Tod.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Will Anderson is also in there, Jared Verse, TJ. Watt,
and Fred Warner. Fred Warner Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14 (36:39):
Hey, good morning, mister Patrick. Always a pleasure to speak
with you. A six foot three tall piece of white
chocolate Marvin by the way, you have a standing honorary
invite the persons of Heights Barbecue anyways. Hey, by the way, guys,
just for the record, remember presidents of Temporary but wooching
this rapper anyways, I just wanted to say I'm a
dedicated podcast listener, some a little bit behind on some
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of these topics. Have a TV show recommendation, and then
also a shout out to the weirdest interview you ever had.
TV show recommendation is the rehearsal starring Nathan Fielder kind
of reminds me of you, guys. You're not really sure
what's scripted and what's not, and it's also kind of
like the unlike anything you've really ever seen before. And
then for your interview debo, Samuel from being the first
(37:25):
guest to ever answer a question by drinking water to
Marvin doing his best Chris Farley impression.
Speaker 13 (37:31):
God, that was a show.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Thank you, Corey. That was at the super Bowl. I
knew it wasn't gonna go well. I knew it was
going to go well. Deebo Samuel shows up during commercial break,
I walk up, say hello, and really very little acknowledgment,
and I thought, Okay, you know, maybe it's going to
warm him up a little bit here. And then I
(37:55):
realized now that was about as good as it was
going to get. And then, but I had promised Marvin
I was gonna let him ask a question. I didn't
go to him like, I give up. Marvin's a Niner fan,
and I said, you know, go ahead and ask Debo
a question. And I think you asked a question, Marvin.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
I did not have a question at all, because in
my head, if Deebo doesn't want to answer Dan Patrick's questions,
what makes you thinks he wants to answer my questions.
So you were like, hey, Marvin's a nineer fan, He's
got a question.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I was like, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
He. I don't think Deebo knew who I was. I
think he was just there. It was a paid, you know,
gig that they have at the super Bowl. But I
don't think he was interested in, you know, engaging. Yeah, Paul,
it was outdoors.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It was in Scottsdale, and it was cool in the morning,
but it wasn't cold.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Oh it was cold when you showed up.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, you walk up to Deebo and you are Deebo
Dan Patrick. His response was whose idea? Was it to
have the show outside and that's it. That's the longest
sentence he had.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Yuh yes, How would you compare that experience to your
Willie Maze interview in Scottsdale and the amount of eye
contact that was going on in body language.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
That was such a long time ago, and you know Willie.
I hated. I hated asking if Willie would talk about
Barry Bonds. I hated that because he was putt in
a tough situation and he even said, you know, I
got to talk about that leap, you know, steroid stuff.
He was not saying that about Barry. But yeah, that
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that was one that I I don't know, I'd like
to have that one back and not ask him because
it just I've felt like, I don't know, I was
picking on somebody a lot older in a situation where
they didn't want to talk about Barry. So but I
was such a Hank Aaron fan that you know, I
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had to, you know, take that and put it to
the side. My jobs to ask questions. But that one
now was uncomfortable. I felt bad. Let's see Austin, Austin
in California. I don't know if I got that right.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Yeah, Hi, Dan, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Yeah, Hi, Yeah, Austin and California. I called a couple
of weeks ago, one of a few Bengals fans there
in California. You know, I was listening to your Thanks
for taking my call. I was listening to your interview
with Mike really really nicely done. A fan of Mike
as well, and you talked about how you grew up
a Bengals red stand but you kind of dropped all
of your fandom when you joined Sports Center. And I
know you've talked about this several times on your show
(40:35):
in the past, but I just I don't know, like
deep down, is it always still in you? Like, for example,
if the Bengals were in the Super Bowl and they
played another team and everything being objective and there's no
real underdog story, it's too even teams. Do you not
deep down route for the team that you grew up
rooting for or how do you how have you taken
that out of your conscience?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Now I would root for the fan base in cincinnat
but I don't have any loyalty to the Bengals or
the Reds. I want a good story, but you America
doesn't need to hear how much I love a team
or don't love a team. I just didn't want to
put that biased in And look, it's worked for Chris Berman,
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it's worked for other people, Stuart Scott with Greeney. I
just that was the path that I chose. Difficult at
the time, but I'm glad I did it that way.
Final hour on this Wednesday, Jimmy Rollins will stop by.
We'll talk some baseball with him after this
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan
Nuts Dan Patrick Show, and Mike Greenberg will stop by.
Greeney will stop buying. About twenty minutes from now. Got
baseball this afternoon and tonight. Checking the weather forecast in Detroit.
They had their game delayed yesterday, but it looks like
clear sailing in Detroit. Also Chicago, also New York and
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Los Angeles. So it's three oh eight, five oh eight,
seven oh eight, nine oh eight Eastern time, your playoff baseball.
Aaron Judge carries the Yankees to a nine to six
win as they stave off elimination. The Mariners are up
to one in their series against the Tigers. Bengals acquired
Joe Flacco from the Browns. Still not sure why the
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Browns would help out the Bengals in that situation, because
they did help out the Bengals, because you know, what
are the other Bengal options that they would have, Maybe
Russell Wilson, maybe a big swing for Kirk Cousins. Joe
Flacco is an upgrade, not a big upgrade at this
stage of his career, but still if you got a guy.
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If you protect him, have him in the pocket, and
you have receivers, then Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening, but
they have to be more threatening than they have been.
Eight seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler sitting by.
Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock. That is our
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paper streaming now only on Peacock. We will upgrade and
update our poll questions and Jimmy Rollins former MVP is
Jimmy Rollins borderline Hall of Famer. I didn't really look
at his numbers, and then Todd said, Jimmy Rollins's going
to join us. I knew he won an MVP and
a three time All Star. Don't know what else he
(01:59):
has as far as credentials, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, I've got that three time All Star, one MVP,
he never finished top five, another MVP, a bunch of
goal gloves, very good playoff numbers. It feels like unlikely.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was very good. Yeah, Okay, there was a time
before he was the guy. Short period of time, well
one year he asked the guy how many career hits
and fifty five. Okay, all right, I'd say you got
somebody's attention. I would think, I don't know what's the
(02:35):
best he's finished. Is he still on the ballot, the
Hall of Fame ballot? Be curious about that. While you
look at that seat, would you give me the poll
results from the first hour and our poll question for
hour two?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Most BCW in sports? Well or just baseball? Judge Otani,
Riley Raley other Right now, Otani has about forty six
percent of that vote. Raleigh and Judge are splitting about
twenty five percent.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And that's a bathroom can wait?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, that's bathroom can wait. We also have this one
from Marvin after Joe the Joe Flacco trade, What should
the realistic expectations of the Bengals be? That's a division title,
wild card, AFC Championship game or no playoffs?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right now? No playoffs?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Has seventy three percent of that phone.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, all right, I'm gonna look at the glass half
full with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yes, Paulin twenty twenty five Hall of Fame voting, Jimmy
Rollins got seventy one votes. That's eighteen percent. He needs
to be on seventy five percent of the ballots to
get in.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, but you have to have a certain number of
votes to stay on the ballot. Yes, is he staying
on the ballot checking, because that will be the key? Okay,
all right, we'll get to some phone calls here. Mentioned
the baseball last night, cal Raley homeward with the MS
over the Tigers and Aaron j pretty impressive so far
(04:02):
in that series and hit a bomb. And this is
what it sounded like last night.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
There's the Pits high flight ball deep left field, down
the left field line.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
It is off the fair pole.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Hey now, hey, now.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Hey, now overever this game is fined, it's six sex.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, some enthusiasm from our favorite Yankee broadcaster, Dave Simms.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Playing to the craft.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yes, he's playing to his crowd, his fans.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Yankee fans are tuning in.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
They want to hear the excitement of the big home run.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay, Christ and Syracuse, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Hey? Thanks Dan?
Speaker 9 (04:47):
Hey, I wanted to mention a couple of things off
of quarterbacks making tackles. Yesterday, Paul mentioned that Cam Newton's
career was really affected by a tackle that he made
where he got injured. And I found that interesting that
and that won Super Bowl. That balls on the ground
and he wanted to have nothing to do with it.
And I know it's somewhat reactionary, but I think qbs
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really need to pick their spots when they tackled like
Dak in the opening of this year against Philadelphia made
that great diving tackle that saved a touchdown and that
was a close game at the time, and if CD
had made a couple of those plays at the end
of the game, that could have been the difference between
winning and losing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, I'm okay. If you're going to make a swipe
tackle at somebody's foot like Dak did, I just don't
want you being like Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck became a
linebacker every time, and he admitted that he'd throw an interception,
he'd be so angry that he wanted to make that tackle.
You can't. And Mahomes was trying to make, you know,
(05:46):
kind of a swipe tackle, and he did alter the defender,
you know a little bit, but you go low in
that situation. But uh, you know, I have no problem
if my quarterback is I'm going to stay out of
the out of the fray, because the thing that I'm
worried about is not the tackle you're going to make,
it's every one of those defenders who get a free
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shot at you because now you're not a quarterback, You're
just a regular player, and that's when you get blasted.
Let's see Row in Missouri? Hi Row, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (06:20):
Hey Dan? Dan Ass? How are you? I'm first time caller.
I'm really excited, longtime listener, four ten hundred and five pounds.
My question is, what do you think Jerry Jones fine
is going to be? You know, that's what he's going
to get, right.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Uh? Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?
Speaker 10 (06:40):
Okay, I missed that. I'm sorry. And then I had
one other question, not a question, but a comment.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know, you were talking.
Speaker 10 (06:48):
About the fist pumps. You go in for the fist pump,
the handshake. I'm a little girl, a little young woman whatever,
and I always go in for the hard handshake.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay. Well I'll read that Row when I see you,
and I go, okay, I'm supposed to give you a
firm handshake. Thank you, Roe. I appreciate that. Yeah, Jared
Jones two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Jonathan Gannon got
one hundred thousand dollars for his altercation on the sidelines
Grant in Oregon. Hey Grant, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (07:19):
Hey morning man, first time caller six' one two fifteen. Hey,
I just wanted to talk a little bit more about
that Jonathan Gannon situation. Obviously, I don't think it's right
for him to ever put his hands on any sort
of a player, but I think it does reflect a
little bit of the emotion in the business stress it's
put on, especially an NFL head coach, where those situations
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like that matter, and his coaching life in the NFL
and that kind of game determines whether or not he
continues as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I get it. You know, I've seen some of
the great coaches in history. I mean whaty Hayes at
the end of his career was trying to take on
a defender who was at Charlie Bowman the interception Clemson
in a bowl game. Lou Holtz has gone on to
the field, Bill Cower's gone. I mean, these coaches they preach,
(08:09):
you know, having some kind of decorum, you know, keep
your cool, you know, don't. Bob Knight would do that
all the time. And he was the worst offender with it,
you know. And I have no problem with the NFL
or the Cardinals finding him one hundred thousand dollars. I mean,
he knew he did something wrong. That's why he the
day before apologized because it didn't look good. Yes time.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Now, is that supposed to be some kind of teaching moment?
Speaker 6 (08:34):
I know, you lose.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
You can't analyze it too much in the moment you
have your emotions or in the back of your mind
like that. That kind of plant's going to get me fired.
I got my family here, and people do stupid things
like that. You know how much of that sometimes You
never know in the back recesses of your mind. If
the season's not going well and it's more selfish, it's
only not a teaching moment to get in someone's face
like that and touch them. Well, they are less likely
to do it because you put your hands on them.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, I don't think that you're that Certainly he wasn't
a teaching moment for him. I mean it can be,
but you know, you have to have your act together.
And plus he's coaching for the Cardinals. He might not
be coaching for the Cardinals next year, and every one
of these games they have that game, there's no way
they can lose that game until they found a way
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to lose that game. And he's probably fed up with
it and he knows he's coaching for his job. Yeah, Paul,
I disagree a little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think it's a I liked Jonathan Gannon going over
to yell at his player. This guy purposely dropped the
ball before the goal line. If he doesn't get physical,
I'm fine with Jonathan Gannon airing him out in person,
right there on the sidelines and from everybody, right up
to the point where he put his hands on him.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah. Having been a person who's been yelled at, I
mean it's embarrassing because everybody's watching. I was sent to
the showers in the first half of a basketball game
when I was in high school because we were killing
King's Mill, killing him and my dad had traveled all
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night next day to get to the game, and all
of a sudden, the coach says, Hey, I'm going to
put in this second string, and I think I said why,
and then my coach told me to shower, So I
had to walk. I had to walk of shame in
the first half. So I made it seem like my
contact lens came out and that I was just going.
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And then I'm down in the locker room at halftime
and I'm thinking, God, this is embarrassing. And so I
had to eat it because I talked back to my
coach and I he didn't yell at me or you know,
he embarrassed me. But it taught me a lesson. I mean,
it was a great moment of learning, even though I
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didn't learn anything until later when I analyzed it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, Paulin, so you guys were up big, You were
a starter and he just was rotating in the backups
because it was a blowout and you want him more
at the time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he was very judicial when it
came to giving playing time, and and uh, you know,
I'm I'm there, I'm killing King's mill their arrival, I'm
want to put up some big numbers. My dad flown
cross country and I get there, I think he sits
down and we have a time out and I end
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up getting pulled for the game. Yes time.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Why is saying why that disrespectful? Is that just a
different era that you know some people can't relate to
today's kids.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yes, yes, that's how.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Dare you demand an explanation for me?
Speaker 5 (11:29):
The coaches to well you, this is the decision.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
You don't ask why.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I never, I never ever would speak to my coaches.
That was the only time. But it was like in
the moment, I'm going why, like why aren't we supposed
to be in there and dominating? And but you know
our coach was saying, I want to play the other guys.
I was just being selfish.
Speaker 12 (11:49):
Yes, Marvin, that's the same generation who answers because I said,
so that's that generation.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, my generation. And I've used that before with
my kids. Well why and you know you didn't go
to school, you didn't study because I said, so, that's it.
Let's see Tommy in the outer Banks. I Tommy, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 13 (12:14):
Dan and the dants. Thank you so much for taking
our call. I don't know how much you're you feel
you're appreciated. I know you put a lot of work
into what you do, a lot of show prep, a
lot of meetings, all hours of the day, and people
only here just a few hours of what you do.
(12:36):
But I know that a lot more goes into it,
and you've made my wife so much happier with what
you're doing. She's doing endometrial and servical cancer and going
through radiation and chemo, and she really can't speak on
the phone, but wanted me to call in regards to
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I guess you were talking about DraftKings and the offensive
Rookie of the Year as an issue. We're both Jack fans.
Hopefully you'll lean that way. Do you have any opinions
on defensive Rookie of the year and defensive player of
the year.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Well, Tommy, my best to your wife. I'm glad that
if we can put a smile on her face. Abdul
Carter is the defensive rookie of the Year right now,
and Jahad Campbell is second, and so I think Abdul
Carter by default. I don't know if anybody's really distinguished themselves,
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but Abdul Carter and you play for the Giants. Giants
have a Thursday night game against the Eagles, so you
get a standalone game against that Eagle the weapons that
they have.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, PAULI, Yeah, Abdul Carter, like you said, it's kind
of default. He's playing a lot not a lot of
other rookies making any defensive impact yet.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I don't know about defensive Player of the Year.
I don't. I haven't really explored that, but I don't.
I haven't seen any odds for that. We'll see if
the DraftKings has that. Dustin in South Ben, Hi, Dustin,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (14:20):
Hello?
Speaker 13 (14:21):
Je, Just a couple of snack suggestions. Where you guys
are in town? Yesterday's in Granger and i'd also tell
you Testin's over in lafort All about twenty minutes from
the stadium.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
All right, Well, thank you, Dustin. Getting some nice suggestions
from the fans from South Ben. We'll be out there
next Thursday and Friday. Let's take a break. Mike Greenberg
has a book, new book, and we'll talk to him.
Been a while since we've chatted with Greeney. Also in
an hour from now, Jimmy rawlins. He's doing baseball for TBS,
(14:56):
the former Philly great as the Phillies trying to stave
off getting eliminated, getting swept and boy, you can point
fingers at the top of the lineup. They Trey Turner,
Bryce Harper, Schwarber. I think they have three hits and
three for twenty one maybe something like that. But give
credit to the Dodgers starting pitching. It's been great. Well
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take a break. Greeney joins us next year Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 15 (15:33):
He's Mike Krmen, I'm Dan Bayern. We have a brand
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a week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with
new episodes to not only look back at what happened,
what you need to do at that minute, and also
look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's right, Dan.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
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Speaker 15 (16:04):
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Speaker 2 (16:11):
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Download the app if you haven't done so. If you
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from yesterday, and he's in Los Angeles, so he'll get
(16:33):
us ready for the Phillies and the Dodgers. So you
got all four games, all four series coming up today
and tonight. He's Mike Greenberg. He is ESPN's host of
Get Up, also Sunday NFL Countdown, and has a new
book out called Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises
and their most iconic figures. He collaborated with his great producer, Hembo,
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and he's ranking the NFL, NBA, Baseball, NHL franchises from
best to worst and a mount rushmore of legends for
each the book Got Your Legends. Greene, good to talk
to you again, Dan, you come up with the idea about.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
This, Well, I'll tell you all about the book in
the second But first and foremost, it is always a
thrill and an honor for me to be on here
with you and the guy. So hello to everybody and second,
I need you to settle a bet for me. Were
you at the Nate Bargatsey concert at Madison Square Garden
two weeks ago? Yes, okay, I thought so. So I
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was sitting there and someone walked by and I said,
I'm ninety nine percent sure that's Dan Patrick, and Stay
said go find you know, go say hello, and I
said I will, and I got up and I couldn't
find you. You had walked in and you kind of walked,
you made like a turn, you went around a curve.
I don't know where you went, and then I couldn't
find you. And the people I was with said, that
wasn't Dan Patrick. And you don't know Dan If you
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went over to talk to Dan Patrick, you wouldn't even
know who you were. And I said, I guarantee you
Dan Patrick would know who I was.
Speaker 16 (17:59):
I'm going to find him.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
And I spent I was distracted through the entire Jimmy
Fallon portion of the evening trying to find you, and
I never did again. So I am now confirming on
the record that was indeed you.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yes, it was. I went with my family, had a
great time, and his dad was great up there. Jimmy
Fallon was great up there, and I had not seen Nate.
I'd seen his stand up on Netflix. And my daughter's
the one who said, Dad, you'll love him because it's
just everyday situations that he's talking about that we can
all relate to. But he does it in a, you know,
(18:36):
an impressive way. And I met him backstage afterwards. And
you see Chris Rock there, Well, that's testament to how
good you are that Chris is coming out to watch
you perform.
Speaker 16 (18:46):
So Jimmy Fallon is opening for you.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know that you know something. And we saw him.
We had friends who had had been turned on to him,
and so we went to see him at Radio City
maybe a year and a half so ago before he
blew up so big that he's now hosting the Emmys
and all of that. And it sort of led to
an interesting debate, which is can you laugh too loudly
at a comedy show?
Speaker 16 (19:10):
My wife yelled at me.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Here's another of those that I was laughing too loudly,
and I said, you know, honey, I really think the
comedian probably likes it when you laugh loudly. Sort of
the idea of the entire exercise. So I got, I got,
I got chastened for laughing too much at the Nate
Bargatsy concert.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, I'm sure Nate would be fine, although there are
times when you can hear a stand up act and
you can hear a laughter that might be annoying. Yes,
like there's now I don't know if if it was
high I don't know how your laugh is, but if
it's high pitched or something, then he probably would have
singled you out and made fun of you.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yeah, And I was not close enough to the stage
at Radio City that he would have he would have
heard it.
Speaker 16 (19:56):
She was convinced I was drowning him out for the
people around us.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Anyway, I'm glad that we that. Thank you for taking
care of that for me. How's everything else going?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Everything spectacular? So you dive into this topic not an
easy topic to kind of Well, it's not one topic,
it's a variety of them. But when did you decide that,
all right, America needs this?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
So I had this idea. It's the third book that
we've done Hambo and I. So if you know Himbo,
his research is ridiculous, like he is whatever the geniuses
are at NASA that like put are eventually going to
put a man on Jupiter. That's what Himbo is to
sports research, and during COVID I had this idea. It
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just came up from an idle conversation we were having with
someone you'll remember, Pete mcconvill from ESPN, who's one of
the few people who has been around as long as
you and I, and about which players own each individual numbers,
like the uniform numbers like twenty three clearly belongs to
Michael Jordan and ninety nine belongs to Wayne Gretzky, But
how about all these other numbers? Who owns them? And
(21:00):
I thought that might make an interesting book. So we
did a book called Got Your Number, in which we
assigned that who owns every number from one to one hundred,
and candidly, it sold better than the publisher expected it to,
so they said, come up with another idea. So then
I figured, I've been doing sports talk for thirty years,
so we came up with the book. The second one
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was called Got Your Answers, in which we picked the
one hundred best sports debate topics and sort of using
his research, answered them, and that also did well. So
we had another idea. Heimbo said, let's do the Mount
Rushmore's you and I have both done, and so as
every sports fan, and frankly, it goes beyond sports. Wat's
the mount Rushmore of this? What's the mount Rushmore of
rock guitarists? What's the mount rush More of stand up comedians?
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The mount Rushmore of this or that or the other.
So we decided, using his research, to come up with
the mount Rushmore of every team in the fourth sports,
as you just said, the NFL, the NBA, the NHL,
and Major League Baseball, And so we chose those and
then it was my job to write it. The way
we do the books is he does the research and
then I do the writing. I sat down to write
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it and I realized, we don't really have a construct
for how we're going to lay them out. So do
we just do them by sport? Do we do them alphabetically?
Neither of None of the ideas I had seemed interesting.
So we said, well, hell with it. Let's just rank
all of the teams from the best one to the
bottom one. So the best one is the Yankees, and
some of the teams that have just come into existence
are down at the bottom. And using winning percentage and
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championships and all sorts of other things. So the book
sort of has two separate areas for debate, which is,
did you agree with the people that we chose to
be the Mount Rushmoores of literally every team?
Speaker 16 (22:35):
And then do you agree with the way that we
ranked them?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
And whether you agree or disagree. Hopefully it'll be fun
to read. And what I like the most about it
because I Dan grew up reading a ton of sports
history books.
Speaker 16 (22:46):
I read a lot about sports history.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
And I feel like that's sort of a lost art,
if indeed that is an art.
Speaker 16 (22:53):
Not enough of that going on.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So there's a ton of sports history and it there's
a ton. With his research, there's a ton.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You will learn a.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Ton about athletes you may not know a whole lot
about because some of them are contemporary, but some of
them are played decades and in some cases even a
century ago. So hopefully, whether you agree or disagree, you'll
learn some stuff about some of the great athletes of
all time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What's the sports debate that leaves you frustrated?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Well, I mean the contemporary ones, like the what my
mind goes to when you ask me that question, are
what are the go tos that those of us who
did sports talk that depended on phone calls, which is
what I used to do before I came to ESPN.
I started out and you were working your way up,
like as a TV guy CNN and ESPN and Sports
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Center and everything.
Speaker 16 (23:43):
I came a different route.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I came from sort of the traditional you call this
number right now, and let's have this argument. So I
go back to the ones that were just like on
a slow day, you just throw this question out and
they would do your show for you. So the big
one in the nineties was does Pete belonging in the
Hall of Fame or not? So I don't know if
it frustrates me, but it's it's a question that people
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are so divided on the people on either side of
it feel so strongly and passionately about their respective sides.
Speaker 16 (24:13):
And this of course was long before Pete died.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
So that it was a really good, fun, easy debate
to throw out there. The Michael versus Lebron thing, now,
I guess is sort of this generation's debate. And I
can tell you that, like, my son is a crazy
basketball fan, grew up playing nothing but basketball.
Speaker 16 (24:31):
He's twenty two and he never stops.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Telling me that Lebron is the greatest player of all time,
and you know it makes me crazy, but you just
had to have seen it.
Speaker 16 (24:41):
I'm I will forever be a Michael guy. I remember
sitting with.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
You in the bowels of the old Chicago Stadium when
I was covering those Bulls teams because I worked locally
in Chicago and you would be in town to cover
the finals. And you'll remember hanging out with like Terry
Bores and Jesse Rodgers, all those guys you used to
hang out with, and those were my friend and so
you were there and I was like, wow, Dan Patrick
is here, and.
Speaker 16 (25:03):
I would just sit at the table and listen.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Anyway, the point is I always tell younger people, if
you didn't watch Michael Jordan play, then I can understand
why you don't know the answer to this question. But
maybe the best way I can explain it is if
there was one game of basketball being played and my
life depended upon the outcome, I would pick Michael Jordan first,
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and then I would make whatever plans you want to
make for the extended future, because he was going.
Speaker 16 (25:29):
To find a way to win better than anyone else would.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
So anyway, those are the two that jump to my
mind when you ask the question. I don't know if
it's exactly what you meant, but that's sort of where
my head went.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
But do you provide information? Does Heimbo provide information so
you can win your sports debates?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
One hundred percent? That's the idea here is that our debates,
particularly in the second book and in this one as well,
every argument we make is based on all of this data.
I mean, in this day and age, there is so
much data and information that's available inside and outside of
sports that we're not really debating. We're telling you the
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data says these four people are the best, or the
data says this guy was the best at this or that. Now,
as you and I both know, no matter how weld you,
I think younger people have a greater appreciation of data
now than people our age. But at the same time,
no one, I don't think anyone thinks that the numbers
tell the entire story. You know, there's a science to it,
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and that's really what is provided in the book. Hopefully
the writing adds a little bit of the art to it,
because in the judgment of anything, there's both of those.
But yes, every single argument that we make in all
three of the books, and especially this one, because we're
literally talking about four people from one hundred and twenty
four different teams. Every single one of them is based,
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for the most part on the research that Hembo does,
which on some level is almost indisputable.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Talking to Mike Greenberg, as a new book out it's
called Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises and their
most iconic figures. Give me the team that was the
toughest to come up with, it's Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Well, the toughest and easiest at the same time probably
was the top team, which is the Yankees. Which is
to say, when you do the Mount Rushmore of the Yankees,
the people you're leaving off, if you pick the top
four people that you're leaving off, they would probably be
better than the Mount Rushmore of almost any other team
in sports. So for I'll just tell you that four
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people not on the Yankees Mount Rushmore are the only
player ever unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame, which
is Mariano Rivera, the face of the sport for two decades,
which is Derek Jeter, the player who won the most
World Series of any in history, which is Yogi Bearra
and the most infamous, notorious, significant important owner in sports
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for a generation, which is George Steinbrenner. So that's Forsome
would probably be as almost as good as just about
once you get past like the you know, the Lakers
and a few of the others, that would probably be
better than the Mount Rushmore of any other team. But
the Yankees had Babe Ruth, Louke Garrig, Joe Demangio, and
Mickey Mantle and then so there's just no in my opinion,
there's no debating those. So that was it was both.
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It was painful to leave the people off that we
left off, but it was easy to choose. I'll tell
you what was hard because we did include some announcers
like Vince Scully is on the Dodgers Mount Rushmore, Bob
Euker is on the Milwaukee Brewers Mount Rushmore. But we
decided in all cases we would break a tie in
the favor of players. There were managers, there were coaches,
there are executives. But in all cases, if oh, the
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light just went out of my office because I didn't
move hold on a second, let me sorry, I didn't know.
Speaker 15 (28:45):
That would happen.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Hold On one. Tres Are tough there at the mother
Ship alight, just.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Yes, if they think they think the office is empty.
Sorry about that, leaving like Jack Buck off of the
Saint Louis. I've had a lot of people from Saint
Louis that are that we left Jack Buck off of
the Cardinals list and some of the other announcers that
if we were going to include any announces, we should
have gone all the way and put on those like
Ernie Harwell isn't on the Tiger's list, and Jack Buck
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isn't on the Cardinals list, and there are a few others.
Speaker 16 (29:15):
And again, that was.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Really and we write about it. I mean, I write
chapters on every one of these, so their names are
mentioned in all of them. But those were tough decisions
to make. I'll tell you another one. I have some
Green Bay Packer fans, like people who really know the
history of that franchise that are upset that we didn't
include Curly Lambeau. And we do write a lot about him.
Obviously his name is on the stadium, but we I mean,
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you had to put Lombardi on the list, and then
we put the three quarterbacks. It just seems you've got
Bart Starr, you got Brett Fave. You got Aaron Rodgers
all the MVPs that they won. Stars still has the
best postseason winning record of any quarterback in history and
is the only quarterback in the modern era to win
three straight championships. People think it's never been done, but
that's wrong. They just didn't call it the super Bowl
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when he won the first of those three. But he
won three in a row. It felt like those three
had to be on. But there are a lot of
people who think if you don't include Curly Lambeau, you're
making a mistake. So we've had a lot of pushback.
You know, they're really passionate. Fans of different places will
have pretty strong opinions.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I know that you're a pronounced Jets fan, but oh god,
now I don't have any allegiance anymore. When I got
to Sports Center, I shed my allegiance to anything with
the Bengals or the Reds. I just it was easier
for me to do it that way. But you go
to work on that Monday, after a Sunday with the
Jets or after I mean, there's sports depression, but you
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still have to do your job like there's no loss
that affects me. With the Reds or the Bengals, the
teams that I grew up rooting for, where I go
into that next day. But do you just absorb it
like you are you conditioned? You just go, Okay, this
is what it means to be a Jets fan.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
At this point, I think my sports soul is calloused
enough to sort of absorb that, the depression that is
being a Jet fan. It's interesting because I host two
different shows, and this has always been my philosophy, Dan,
and I'm not sure how you see it, but when
you're hosting a show like Sports Center, as you did
for all those years as well as anyone ever did,
(31:23):
or in my case, when I host the Sunday Morning
Countdown show or when I host the NFL Draft, those
are shows people are not watching because I'm on them.
Speaker 16 (31:31):
They're watching them because they're fans of the sport.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
When I was hosting the NBA, they're watching because they're
fans of the sport. No one but my mother is
watching because they want to hear what I have to say.
And so in those cases, I don't bring my fandom
to that conversation at all. I don't treat the Jets
or any other team that I pay attention to any
differently than I do any other team on talk shows
that are my own shows. So when we were doing
Mike and Mike, or now when I do get up,
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I figure the reason people are watching is because of
your personality. It is because of who you are. They're
tuning in to hear what you have to say about things,
and in those like that's how I got to this.
I didn't play, you know, I didn't. I was I'm
not a former athlete. I'm just a fan. I'm just
a kid who grew up loving sports in the nineteen seventies,
and those are my teams. So I've never made any secret.
Speaker 16 (32:16):
I don't know if I've ever.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Told you this, but the way that started was your
friend and mine, Robin Roberts on the Old on a
Saturday morning sports center. Right before Robin left to do GMA,
I was hosting a Saturday morning sports center with her,
and the Jets were playing a playoff game that night.
And this was before there was Mike and Mike. This
was before any of that, and I had never acknowledged
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what team I rooted for. I would have thought that
that would be totally forgotten, that I would you know,
Norby would call me in and fire me if that
came up on the air. In my own little private way,
I wore a green tie that day. That's it said
nothing of it, just as wearing a green tie. And
then in one of those.
Speaker 16 (32:55):
Little moments that you have for chit chat on.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Sports Center, you know where they would be like that
little interaction and Robin says, greeny, I see that green tie.
Obviously got that on for the big Jets game tonight,
and I thought, oh my god, this is the worst
thing that's ever happened to me. Here I am. I'm
anchoring ESPN News five days a week. They put me
on Sports Center like once a month. I'm getting this chance,
and now I'm getting, you.
Speaker 16 (33:17):
Know, outed as a fan of a team.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
This is going to be the worst.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
Thing that ever happened to me.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
And obviously nothing terrible happened. And then it wasn't until
we started doing Mike and Mike that I thought, well,
what am I going to sit here talking about? You know, like,
what is the We can't just sit here and analyze
a in a dry way. All the x's and o's
of all these games. People want to hear what your
passion is. So we talked about that, and there's no
question I talk about the Jets differently than I do
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other bad teams in the sport. It's just the way
it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Before I let you go, Fritzy, who you know well,
wants to try out as an announcer for Get Up
and he has a get Up tease that he would
like to read for you. So, Todd, Todd, you ready.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Let's do it? Okay, good morning.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
You thought the Yankees were done, but who are we
to judge? The captain spread some Tuesday night fever as
the Bronx bombers are staying alive. It took a while
to get things racing in the Motor city and then
Seattle slew.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Did lebron make the wrong decision? Again?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Wait until you, Henna see the reaction would be a
sobering end for the Cubs with old Milwaukee brotherly glove.
Can the Fills catch up with those artful Dodgers? An
angry bird is fined in Arizona? And are you fine
with Jerry's bird flip explanation? If a drops on the
ice and no one saw it, did it really happen?
Speaker 12 (34:34):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
The NHL is underway, and he got reciped from the
Dog pat in Cleveland by Cincinnati.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
We'll tell you why. It's not whack though. For the
Bengals to buy into Flacco, it's time to get up.
That is very well done, Fritzy. You only missed one thing. Somehow,
some way. You have to get the Cowboys in. I
mean you can't. We can't possibly do it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's true, you can't. Well no, we had Jerry's Jerry
flipping off the crowd, so we did squeeze in. Cowboy
didn't get Dack in, but you got you got Jerry
and oh.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I, miss I must have been laughing over that one.
That's extraordinarily well done. I will steal most of those
puns from you. I particularly like Seattle slew. That one
goes for those who remember. That's a very well played one.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thanks h Greenee, good to talk to you. Good luck
with the book, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Great to see you call. It is a delight to
be on. Great to see you Dan and everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Thank you, Thank you Greenie. The book is called Get
Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises their most iconic figures.
He's Mike Greenberg. All right, Tod, there you go. You
keep talking your way back to Yeah. Once this show's over,
you'll be like, hey, Greenee, remember me? Are you texting
(35:45):
Greenee right now? Great appearance.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
As soon as you go to break.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
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Speaker 2 (36:04):
Some A caller asked the defensive player of the year
according to DraftKings right now, Aiden Hutchinson is your favorite,
followed by Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, Nick, Benito, the Broncos. Heck, yeah,
he's one of those guys that you don't know him,
but then you watch the game and you're like, why
don't I know this guy?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Who's that number?
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Fifteen? Breaking through?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah? Thank you?
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Tod.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Will Anderson is also in there, Jared Verse, TJ. Watt,
and Fred Warner. Fred Warner Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14 (36:39):
Hey, good morning, mister Patrick. Always a pleasure to speak
with you. A six foot three tall piece of white
chocolate Marvin by the way, you have a standing honorary
invite the persons of Heights Barbecue anyways. Hey, by the way, guys,
just for the record, remember presidents of Temporary but wooching
this rapper anyways, I just wanted to say I'm a
dedicated podcast listener, some a little bit behind on some
(37:01):
of these topics. Have a TV show recommendation, and then
also a shout out to the weirdest interview you ever had.
TV show recommendation is the rehearsal starring Nathan Fielder kind
of reminds me of you, guys. You're not really sure
what's scripted and what's not, and it's also kind of
like the unlike anything you've really ever seen before. And
then for your interview debo, Samuel from being the first
(37:25):
guest to ever answer a question by drinking water to
Marvin doing his best Chris Farley impression.
Speaker 13 (37:31):
God, that was a show.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Thank you, Corey. That was at the super Bowl. I
knew it wasn't gonna go well. I knew it was
going to go well. Deebo Samuel shows up during commercial break,
I walk up, say hello, and really very little acknowledgment,
and I thought, Okay, you know, maybe it's going to
warm him up a little bit here. And then I
(37:55):
realized now that was about as good as it was
going to get. And then, but I had promised Marvin
I was gonna let him ask a question. I didn't
go to him like, I give up. Marvin's a Niner fan,
and I said, you know, go ahead and ask Debo
a question. And I think you asked a question, Marvin.
Speaker 12 (38:14):
I did not have a question at all, because in
my head, if Deebo doesn't want to answer Dan Patrick's questions,
what makes you thinks he wants to answer my questions.
So you were like, hey, Marvin's a nineer fan, He's
got a question.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I was like, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
He. I don't think Deebo knew who I was. I
think he was just there. It was a paid, you know,
gig that they have at the super Bowl. But I
don't think he was interested in, you know, engaging. Yeah, Paul,
it was outdoors.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It was in Scottsdale, and it was cool in the morning,
but it wasn't cold.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Oh it was cold when you showed up.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, you walk up to Deebo and you are Deebo
Dan Patrick. His response was whose idea? Was it to
have the show outside and that's it. That's the longest
sentence he had.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Yuh yes, How would you compare that experience to your
Willie Maze interview in Scottsdale and the amount of eye
contact that was going on in body language.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
That was such a long time ago, and you know Willie.
I hated. I hated asking if Willie would talk about
Barry Bonds. I hated that because he was putt in
a tough situation and he even said, you know, I
got to talk about that leap, you know, steroid stuff.
He was not saying that about Barry. But yeah, that
(39:30):
that was one that I I don't know, I'd like
to have that one back and not ask him because
it just I've felt like, I don't know, I was
picking on somebody a lot older in a situation where
they didn't want to talk about Barry. So but I
was such a Hank Aaron fan that you know, I
(39:52):
had to, you know, take that and put it to
the side. My jobs to ask questions. But that one
now was uncomfortable. I felt bad. Let's see Austin, Austin
in California. I don't know if I got that right.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Yeah, Hi, Dan, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Yeah, Hi, Yeah, Austin and California. I called a couple
of weeks ago, one of a few Bengals fans there
in California. You know, I was listening to your Thanks
for taking my call. I was listening to your interview
with Mike really really nicely done. A fan of Mike
as well, and you talked about how you grew up
a Bengals red stand but you kind of dropped all
of your fandom when you joined Sports Center. And I
know you've talked about this several times on your show
(40:35):
in the past, but I just I don't know, like
deep down, is it always still in you? Like, for example,
if the Bengals were in the Super Bowl and they
played another team and everything being objective and there's no
real underdog story, it's too even teams. Do you not
deep down route for the team that you grew up
rooting for or how do you how have you taken
that out of your conscience?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Now I would root for the fan base in cincinnat
but I don't have any loyalty to the Bengals or
the Reds. I want a good story, but you America
doesn't need to hear how much I love a team
or don't love a team. I just didn't want to
put that biased in And look, it's worked for Chris Berman,
(41:17):
it's worked for other people, Stuart Scott with Greeney. I
just that was the path that I chose. Difficult at
the time, but I'm glad I did it that way.
Final hour on this Wednesday, Jimmy Rollins will stop by.
We'll talk some baseball with him after this
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Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
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