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October 29, 2025 40 mins

Dan talks about the popularity of the Blue Jays all over Canada and the history of baseball in Canada. And he wonders exactly how NBC plans to use Michael Jordan on their NBA broadcasts this season.

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(01:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yes, Seaton, what hot sauce did you go with?

Speaker 6 (01:28):
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I went with Louisiana Hot sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
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there was another one in there and nobody had tried
that one. I'll go, I'm not trying that one. So
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with me right now.

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Speaker 7 (01:53):
Guys put hot sauce on like a lot of stuff, Eggs, pizza,
just about everything.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Not pizza, eggs, Yeah, definitely eggs, big hot sauce on eggs.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
What else?

Speaker 7 (02:04):
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Speaker 3 (02:07):
No?

Speaker 8 (02:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Mmmm? Steak yeah, steak yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I mean I don't I it's probably just for eggs,
but uh yeah, I got reminded not to do that.
It's tough to grab something to eat, and then you
come back and you may have something in your teeth.
I remember one time, I think my my youngest sister
said you got something hanging from your mouth.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I didn't know it. I'm on the air and I'm like, oh,
so you're like, uh ohoops.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
But hey, it's live, it's not scripted, and uh, well,
hot sauce, yeah, hot.

Speaker 9 (02:48):
Literally showing how the sausage is being made in your teeth.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Thank you, Tom, it's sauce, all right. Seat, Uh whole question,
Get me out of this please. Yeah, I know this
is a real show. This is what we do for
a living. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
We have up there for whom is tonight's game? More
must winness right now? The Dodgers have about fifty four
percent of that vote. We also put up there, who
are you rooting for in this series? Blue Jays are Dodgers,
And we did that on October twenty second. We did
that same pole question and sixty nine percent of the
audience we're rooting for the Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I get that. I could understand. You know, it's
regionalized with California. I think there's three other states that
there was some Pole survey that said they'd be rooting
for the Dodgers. And you got Canada, although you have
Japan rooting for and you start to think about these
TV markets. I think there were pretty impressive numbers maybe

(03:48):
six million viewers in Canada for the Blue Jays. So
you get that, and you're also going to get the
United States, and you're going to get Japan as well,
so you're it's truly a world series when you think
about it. You've got Canada, You've got you know, United States,
you got Japan as well in there with show Heyo

(04:08):
Tani and you might not you might not see maybe
the revenue from that. I'm not a you know, TV
ratings guy, but this feels bigger because you're talking about,
you know, globally certainly with show Heyo Tani, and then
you get the Canadian market as well. I don't know

(04:30):
if the East Coast is all in on this or
Midwest is all in on this, but you know it's
a it's a pretty good reach, a global reach eight
seven seven three DP show email address dpat Danpatrick dot com,
Twitter handle at DP show. So the Blue Jays handled
the Dodgers six', two tying the series of two games,
apiece and they go back at it tonight, again and

(04:53):
then you'll have a day off for, travel and then
it resumes On friday, night and if you get to
a game seven concludes On.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Saturday, Yes.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
Paulin according to a couple different, Places Front Office sports
said That games one and two average ten point seven
million viewers In, japan the most Viewed World series games
ever in the Country japan six point eight million In,
canada the most Viewed Blue jay game, ever regular season or.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Postseason.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah once, AGAIN i don't know how you monetize, that
but but you are getting your. Product you, know you're
reaching different. Markets it seems like this would be a
positive for baseball that you're selling it.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Globally it's being consumed.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Globally, now If showhy is not in there next, year
you know what kind of reach are you?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Getting oh, sorry, yeah, yeah you want him in there every.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Year and even With, canada with The Blue, JAYS i
mean IT'S i always loved going To montreal and there's
a there's a documentary out about The, expos like Who
killed The? Expo and you, know it's a shame that
they don't have baseball. There every TIME i went To
toronto for Those World series, games great, crowds you, know

(06:09):
the atmosphere was, wonderful And montreal was the same. Way
montreal had as much talent going through their farm system
and their teams as any team in. Baseball there was
like a fifteen year period where it was, man The
expos got that guy or they got that.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Guy it was.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Loaded and when you think About Rock, Rains Andre, Dawson
Randy johnson before he Became Randy, Johnson.

Speaker 10 (06:38):
Gary, Carter, Yes, marv didn't The expos have the best
record in baseball during the?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Strike that was ninety?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Four and then because they might have won The World
series that, year didn't they Have Steve?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Rodgers wasn't either ace in nineteen ninety? Four that's, right
two years in a.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Row, YEAH i loved going To montreal to WATCH i
remember going up there to watch The mets play and
uh JUST i appreciated the atmosphere. There but they needed
a new. Stadium and there's a DOCUMENTARY i think it's
Called Who killed The? Expos, Yes, marvin was.

Speaker 10 (07:11):
It a Young pedro on The? Expos, yeah that's almost
like oh tiny on The. Angels, yeah people will forget that.
Completely Larry, Walker Vlad Guerrero. Senior a lot of, Talent,
yes a lot of. Talent, Uh BUT i enjoyed the atmosphere,
there and, uh you, know maybe they get a baseball team.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
AGAIN i like THE.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
EXPOSA i love the uniforms. TOO i remember seeing somebody
who is It Gordon? Levitt is he the Actor Joseph Gordon?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Levitt, yes, YEAH i was.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
On a plane with. Him he had AN expos hat
on and it seemed just kind of. Random BUT i,
go all, right AND i did. IT i, said, HEY
i love the. Hat he, goes. YEAH i don't think
he knew what the significance of. It it just looked
kind of hip and he had an but at AN
expos hat.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
ON i, MEAN i don't know if.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
He's From montreal or any you, know he has baseball
in his family or, something but just seemed like a
Random all, Right i'm gonna give you a little tip
of the.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Cap, yes mor of.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
It as AN expos hat.

Speaker 10 (08:17):
Owner it's about the, style, like, oh oh you missed
the expos, SURE.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I MEAN i miss seeing this logo a lot. More, yes, yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Yeah Pub going back To japan and The World series
that h eighteen and in game In japan that was
right in the middle of the. Day that game started
at nine to fifteen in the morning In. Japan it
edited at three point thirty in the, afternoon so everyone
around there got to see.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
IT i wonder how many people didn't go to work that.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
DAY i saw a report that they were broadcasting in
schools and letting. Kids, Yeah i'm, serious there's photos ON
cnn about kids in schools In japan got to Watch.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
OTANI i would still love to have an Afternoon there
should be One World series game in the, afternoon and
maybe when we get the commissioner on see can we
make it a? Holiday can we do? That how about
we have an Afternoon World series? Game AND i know
they've talked about revenue and THE tv you, know all that.

(09:16):
STUFF i get, that but not everything has to be
about the. Money it, SHOULDN'T i. Know, RELAX i. Know
here's another. ONE i mentioned this a while, ago a
couple of years, ago that the goal for THESE tv
executives was to bring you closer to the.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Action if you weren't.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Going to be at the Game, oh we're going to
bring you right to the. Sidelines we're going to bring
you into the, huddle we're going to make up, players
we're going to take you into the, dugout and we're
going to interview the manager during the game like you
saw With Tom berducci And Dave.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Roberts, uh we're going to talk to the coach as
he goes off the field at. HALFTIME i don't need.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
It if you give me sound like sound is what
brings me. Closer and when you have these microphones that
will pick up when somebody, is you, know going to the,
bag they slide into, second you're hearing things on the.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Field BUT i DON'T i don't need an.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Interview remember people used to make fun of the sideline,
reporter and then what have we. Done we've added more
sideline reporters. There and, Look i'm all for people getting
an opportunity and getting paid and having a job like,
this but as a, Viewer Tom berducci talking To Dave roberts,
now the access was wonderful Because dave is very, Accommodating

(10:42):
BUT i JUST i don't need those. Things and it feels,
like what do we, do how can we give you
now we. HAVE i think it's WHAT nbc And peacock.
Have Like Austin rivers is on the, Bench Robbie hummel
former college, player they're on the bench with a. Microphone there's.

(11:02):
That that's the.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Sideline how can you be a player coach and thinking
you can talk on the sidelines and you got a reporter.
There do you have to, say, hey off the, Record,
god that.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Was a terrible.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Cut you know you're a bomb.

Speaker 8 (11:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
WHATEVER i don't. KNOW i think we got to be
careful of infringing too.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Much, Yes, tom.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
Perhaps it's a mean spirited on my, part but WHEN
i see those, THINGS i root for something huge that
happen in the game while they're in the middle of
just having this little chat and someone just blasted three
run all and ruins the whole thing and realizing we
can't be doing this while alive.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Moment BUT i like The All star game when they
make up the PLAYER i. Do but that's an exhibition.
Game this is The World. SERIES i as much as you,
Know berducci is great and a caretaker of the, game
And Dave roberts is.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
ACCOMMODATING i just want to watch the.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
GAME i don't and you know those coaches going off
the Sidelines bill Cower on and he's, like, OH i hated.
It you, know, hey what adjustments you're going to? Make
many of. Them i'm not going to tell you LIKE i,
mean he was, SAYING i didn't want to say anything to.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Anybody. Coach they ran for four hundred and fifty yards
on the first. Half what do we need to do
different stop them from running so? Much all, right thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Coach, yeah but the sound in the, picture the quality
is so much. Better by the, Way paulie was telling
me THAT nbc paid more money to get a better
signal or more powered to make their picture.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
Better so people have noticed THAT nbc having THE nba
rights this, year the broadcast have felt very slick and
professional BECAUSE nbc has always has good production. Value so
some people are noticing that the actual picture on THEIR
tv is better than other. Broadcasts and there's some truth to.
That WHEN nbc redid some, studios they went to this
like ten eightyp type STUFF instep seven to, twenty and

(13:00):
so some of the games you see ON nbc in
comparison TO tnt last year or EVEN, espn the actual
picture quality you're getting from them is better than other,
networks and so it's not just you think it's.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Better it actually.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
Is and it's a conscious effort BY nbc with their
new digital. Studios and some reporters were asking about. It
it's a real. Story it's not just a.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Coincidence, okay but why wouldn't other networks do.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
This cost so you can only afford so many broadcasts
with this higher level of. Signal, yeah AND nbc does
not have like two HUNDRED nba. Games they were able
to do it Within if you Notice Notre dame games
has the same. Thing if you notice this signal during
A Notre dame football game ON, nbc it might feel

(13:47):
a bit crisper than a random college football game you'll
see on other.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
NETWORKS i haven't noticed, IT i mean Now i'll try.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
To bands were tweeting about it on social media the
past two weeks WITH nbc as a, compliment and some
reporters actually delved into and, said there's a reality behind
us with that production.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Value all, right let me take a.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Break when we come, back we'll hear From Michael. Jordan
he talked about load management in his sit down With Mike.
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Speaker 2 (14:55):
Away Shay Gilgas alexander had thirty one Points thunderstate. Undefeated
he's the third player IN nba history to score at
least one hundred and seventy four points through the first
five games of his, season and he Joined steph And Wilt.
Chamberlain chamberlain had one hundred and seventy Four Steph curry

(15:17):
one hundred and seventy nine.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Points there.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Brought to you By Pennine. America Austin. REEVES i think
has one hundred and forty three points after three, games
so he could actually join the list With Steph, Curry Wilt,
chamberlain And Shay gilgis if he has a big night
tonight or their next. Game BUT i think he's got

(15:50):
one hundred and forty three points in three.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Games, kids let me tell you about the old.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
DAYS i got to See Wilt, Chamberlain Steph, Curry Steph,
curry And Austin Austin.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Reeves all, Right Michael jordan did his sit. Down, WELL
i think it's just a one time Only Mike tariko
Visits Michael jordan In florida and they go over a
variety of. Topics i'm assuming that's what this is going to.
BE i hope it's. NOT i hope it it's. Timelier

(16:21):
then we can talk bigger, pictures like you know this,
story this, player something that, happened and you can get
his reaction to. It not in real, time but let's
say once a Month tarico is able to go. THERE
i hope it's not just a one and done where
you sit For, mike Sit mike for three hours and

(16:42):
you go over a variety of. Topics but he did
talk about load management last.

Speaker 12 (16:47):
Night what do you think of when you hear the
term load management thrown? Around, well it shouldn't be.

Speaker 13 (16:55):
NEEDED i never wanted to miss a game because it
was an opportunity to prove it. Was it was something
THAT i, felt, like you, know the fans are there
that watch me. PLAY i want TO i want to
impress that guy way up on top who probably worked
his ass off to get a ticket or to get
money to buy the.

Speaker 12 (17:12):
Ticket you really cared about the guy who sat in
the top back at The palace In Auburn hills to
watch you when you came To.

Speaker 13 (17:17):
Detroit, yeah BECAUSE i know he's probably yelling at, me
AND i want to shut him.

Speaker 14 (17:20):
Up he's calling me all kinds of. NAMES i definitely
want to shut him. Up, right you have a duty
that if they're wanting to see, you and as an,
ENTERTAINER i want to show. Right so if the guys
are coming to watch me, PLAY i don't want to
miss that. Opportunity now, physically IF i can't do, it
THEN i can't do.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
It, okay there's no news. Here Because mike wanted to.
Play these, guys they're not going to be like, man
did you hear What jordan? Said, now let's play seventy five.
Games that's not going to. Happen i'm sure THE nba
love this, too because THE nba is trying to get
these players to play more.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Games they're not going to do.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
It two much money to be, made and if you
can somehow sit out instead of playing through something and
an extends your, career you're going to do that because.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
The amount of money that's. There would we like you
to play seventy five? Games? Yes would we like you
to get paid for each game you? Play?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes we Would wait till somebody is making a million
dollars a game and they decide to sit out two.
Games wait till that. Happens they're going to rest. Now
and you can say you're, BAY i tweaked. Something, okay
we have to believe. You but you, know you get

(18:40):
load management with these. Guys LEBRON a couple of years,
AGO i thought was trying to, Prove, Hey i'm going
to play seventy. GAMES i think he played seventy one
in seventy. Two hey in my, age look at. Me
but then you, know like the prior five years to,
that there were some seasons where he's playing fifty, games
five games and he's one of the. Best, well it's

(19:03):
probably been in better shape than any other. Athlete But
mike didn't make any Head and If michael, said, HEY
i understand load, MANAGEMENT i don't blame.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Them now you're getting a.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Headline but For, Mike, NOW i was kind of surprised
That Mike terrico did ask the, question BECAUSE i, mean
it's a. Topic but you, know WHEN i had the
commissioner on it AND i, said you got to do,
mandatory you gotta are minimum. Games you got to have
sixty five games to qualify for postseason, honors and then
he did. It now there's some people who weren't happy about,

(19:37):
it still aren't happy about. It But i'm trying to
get the most out of a. Product i'm trying to
be able to see these players instead of you tune
in and you, go, wait Where's Steph. Curry he's out all,
Right i'm out. TOO i hate to see it. NOW
i don't want you playing through something you know that
could be. Severe and, yes grew up in a completely

(20:01):
different era WHERE i never ever thought about. THAT i never,
thought oh my, gosh you know he's going to sit
out because why back to back. Games, okay today's athlete
is in better, shape, travels better, nutrition has been all of,
that but they're sitting out more. Games Like Kawhi. LEONARD i,
mean when he, PLAYS i, go, oh be Damn kawhi.

(20:22):
Played that's not good for the league for what he gets.
Paid AND i know he's A hall Of, famer but to,
me he's never been MUSTY. Tv he doesn't talk about the.
GAME i don't know if he loves the. GAME i
can say he's a good, businessman BUT i don't, go,
oh let me See kawhi well lock somebody up or

(20:45):
hit a fifteen foot jumper and just not interested in.
It BUT i would still like to see him play
for the benefit of The. Clippers But jordan's saying that
last night didn't have any. Impact it just feels like
Whatever mike, says, okay he going to make a headline
or people are going to talk about. It Because mike
doesn't talk about these. THINGS i just don't want to

(21:05):
be talking about broad. TOPICS i want to make sure
That i'd love to know What mike thinks About victor
Wembin yama right. Now but you, know you do the
interview a month ago or two months. Ago THERE'S i want,
Timely Michael. JORDAN i don't want a documentary where he's
sitting in a chair of a cigar and you, know.

(21:28):
Tequila i'd LOVE i thought this was going to be
What kobe did in details BECAUSE i thought it was
fascinating Because i'm Watching kobe breakdown plays, players, teams and
it felt like it was more, immediate and that's WHAT

(21:50):
i would like to get out Of Michael. JORDAN i
don't know if it's going to be that. WAY i hope,
that you, Know tariko goes there and sits down and
they wear different clothes and then they're going to be
able to talk about some things that have happened in
the season so.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Far, Yes, Marv.

Speaker 10 (22:04):
I'm with you BECAUSE i would love to See Michael
jordan's thoughts on somebody Like Shay Gildess, alexander a great two,
guard a great, score just to see how he differs
and how he just sees the game and in comparison
to What Shaye Gilgess alexander.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Does, yeah Because mike might be, saying you see how
he draws contact here he shoots a lot of free throws, That,
LIKE i would love to do that Where i'd say To, mike,
hey tell me what you see With Shaye. Gilges how
would you defend? It what is he getting away? With
because he is getting away, with you, know pushing. Off

(22:38):
but great players get away With mike got away with,
It Magic, bird run down the, list they all got
away with. Something BUT i would love to know What
mike sees in. That i'd love for him, to you,
know break Down. Luca any of these younger players would be.
Great it'd be a lot of. Fun BUT i think

(22:59):
that's the one thing that will miss out of this Is.
Michael but it doesn't feel like it's. Immediate, yeah Morph.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
YEAH i would just love to Hear tarico ask, Him,
hey what similarities do you see In Anthony? Edwards because
people were talking About Anthony edwards being the closest thing
To Michael jordan in What mike Sees.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, paully going back to load, management it's one of
those phrases where collectively everyone hates, it we talk about,
it we put it at a. Poll is there any chance,
though that if you had a do, over you kind
of would wish that load management was around in the
eighties and, nineties Would Larry bird had played till thirty
five instead of thirty? One would you, know Like Steph
curry right now is thirty seven still playing great? Basketball

(23:40):
the first half of his career he played seventy five
plus games all the. Time the second half it's close
to like sixty five to. Seventy is that the Reason
Steph curry is not retired right? Now and could that
be like would you rather Have Larry bird for ten
years for eighty games or thirteen years for seventy five?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Games, Yeah i'd rather have a couple more years with.
HIM i.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Wonder you, know it's hard to, say but would it
have been better for guys like that to occasionally do?

Speaker 15 (24:06):
That?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Well they had.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Injuries bird had a bad, back, right But Steve nash
had a bad.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Back but did.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
They Did bird exacerbate it because it's my. Back i'll
play through a couple.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Of nights because that's the way he. Played, yeah he
couldn't change the way he.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Played that's the. Problem Steve. Nash maybe you get a
couple more. Years remember Nash on when he was out
of a, game he'd had to stretch the entire time
the number of players last year who played eighty or more.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Games, todd do you want to? Guess don't happen?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Anything what we played more than eighty?

Speaker 9 (24:46):
Games? Yeah, Uh Oscar Robertson.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
No, Eleven, marvin how many players played at least eighty
games last? Year?

Speaker 5 (25:00):
HERE i thought you said all the? Time what was?

Speaker 15 (25:04):
It?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Marvin? Seventeen, okay seat twenty, five twenty, two.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Twenty eleven times, two it is twenty.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Two No, todd no' sit.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Out go back to twenty, fourteen it was fifty three.
Players go back to two thousand and, four it was seventy.
Two back to nineteen ninety four it was eighty three,
players and back to eighty four it was seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Players so this is certainly a. TREND i understand.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It it's just it's difficult to tune into. Something it'd
be like going to A broadway show and the person
you're going to go see has to stand. In are
you going to stay for The broadway? Show, OKAY i
got no other. Choice i've already bought tickets to, this
or tuning in to watch a movie and the star
is not. There but we've talked to the commissioner about.

(25:56):
IT i don't think there's a solution because THE, nfl
THE Nba Player association is not going to let you
implement some kind of hey for play system where you
get your paycheck when you show up to. Work that's
not going to happen BECAUSE i can't force you to.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Play, Yes, mark.

Speaker 10 (26:16):
The closest thing, is like you suggested That Adam silver.
Implement it was the sixty five minimum games to where
you can get An ALL nba selection OR mvp or
anything like.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
That fred In South, Carolina, Hi, fred what's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (26:29):
Today you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
WARN dp and the Dan is Brother. Dan you were
always on target and right this stuff about the load. Management,
YEAH i agree with. YOU i want to show up
and pay all that money and you guy not be.
There and the other thing you talked earlier the first
hour palm and the ball that goes back To Alan
irvison way back in the next dage right.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Now alan iverson with the. Sixers, yes but thank, You.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Fred.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
YEAH I John stockton to me was one of the
first guys THAT i saw do that where he was
palming the, ball carrying the.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Ball but it's here to.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
STAY i just next TIME i have the commissioner on
and there's no gambling situation going. ON i want to,
say there is a rule for. This why don't we
use the. Rule there is a rule for. Traveling just
tell me we're not calling traveling, anymore or we're not
going to call carrying the basketball. Anymore and if that's the, case, okay, yes, see.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Do we really want to go back to hand on
top of the ball like you're patting someone on the.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Head, Though, WELL i think that there's a happy medium. There,
well this is, egregious.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Right but the happy medium is a gray area of
is it or isn't?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
It, well are you carrying the ball or?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
NOT i think if the ball is suspended in mid,
air you're carrying it like a. Trick, yeah it's like
and THEN i start to dribble. Again it's everything's gray
area when you think about a. Call is that holding
that's a gray? Area is that pass interference that's gray?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Area it's that? Traveling that's?

Speaker 6 (28:11):
GREAT i, mean, yea but that's WHY i like holding
should just be. ALLOWED i, agree you should just let
them do. It everyone is holding on every, play but
you just decided to call this. One that's stupid or
put them all in. MITTENS i, agree we've tried to do,
that but we don't talk to this.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Commissioner, no he doesn't talk to, us SO i can't, say,
hey how about linemen have to wear mittens on?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
More talk at? Him, yes we. Do i'm told he
gets the.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Message i'm, told but he comes on When i'm not.
Here that's so technically he's been on the. Show i'm
going to take a day off and then Maybe Ross
tucker can get the commissioner. On i'll Give ross some
questions to ask the.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Commissioner why do you hood guys at the?

Speaker 14 (28:53):
Draft too?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Long too? Hard? Nick And? Florida, Hi, nick what's on
your mind? Today good morning?

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Dad six foot one.

Speaker 16 (29:03):
SEVENTY i am ready to. Overreact four games in and
My Miami heat had their second one hundred and forty
point plus game last. Night Jim hawks junior twenty eight,
points nine to, fourteen eight for eight from the. Line

(29:26):
he is out of the sophomore slump in his third.
Year and you guys were talking hot sauce. Earlier put
some sch on an egg sending which.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Underrated thank, you thank, You. Nick apparently Your Miami heater.
Underrated it's a hot. Take whoh, OKAY i see what you.
DID i see what you.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Did by the, WAY i think it should Be himI
hawk As junior the. Herd if you're going all all
JAY heimi Hacks. Hunior it's FORMER ucla brewin.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Right. Yeah Pat riley knows how to. Draft he, does he.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Does he knows how TO i, know he's how to
find those. Players that was always weird THAT i never
had a relationship with Pat, riley even WHEN i was
working at The, mothership even WHEN i was covering THE
Nba finals With Jack. Ramsey he didn't give me the
time of the. Day he couldn't. Care and then we
go To Dan levittard's, wedding my wife AND i AND

(30:19):
i walk in AND i see Pat riley is there
with his. Wife and then my wife, goes who is, that,
like you, know had a, hair slick, back you, know
the whole, thing and go that's Pat. RILEY i, said
don't have don't have a relationship with. Him she, goes
did you say.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
ANYTHING i, go, no, no, NO i JUST i don't.
Know we never. Connected and it's, like you know, whatever
and She So i'm standing at the bar with my
back turn all of a, sudden Pat riley comes over
with his wife and, Goes, dan great to see. You
how are you?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Now my wife is, like wait a, minute this guy
didn't like, Him and And pat introduces me to his.
Wife we start talking AND, i you, know complimented him
on his roster and you, know all this stuff and
his hair and his championships and all those, things and
he could not have been. Nicer and then my wife blames, me,

(31:18):
like you, know you kind of painted a picture like
this guy hates. YOU i, go, NO i. Don't just
didn't think he knew. Me he acknowledged me even when
they won a. Championship And i'm there In South beach
when The heat win a championship with D wade And.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Shack, no you, know i'd See pat, RIGHT i Go, Hi,
Pat he'd go. Hi that was. It but, yeah it
was one of those where you, go all, right, okay Hey.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Pat now that's one of those IF i see him
again AND i go Hey, pat, Okay yes It's marvin.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Pat, riley best dress coach. Ever.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Hmm, yeah, yeah you'd be hard.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Pressed like, now guys don't want to like they dress
like we. Do you, know you have a track suit
on or you know there's no suit and tie. Anymore quarters. Zips, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.
Yeah ryles was a thing back, then like that was
a who he still, is, yes it, is oh. Yeah

(32:24):
but watching him on the sidelines because he was a
former player and that suit looked, great hair looked, great
and he he meant.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Business what a competitor and still.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
Is, yes, Smart, yeah he seems like one of those
guys when he was dressed up you wouldn't realize as a,
player he was a gritty and gutty. Guy, yes and
he wanted to play like The knicks in the, nineties
not like the Showtime. Lakers The knicks in the nineties
were really how he wanted to. Play let's fight that was,
terrible such a bad basketball the people clamor for let's
go back to the.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Nineties are you?

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Sure, no the eighty three seventy nine they moved a three.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Point line in because people were shooting the ball so.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Terribly all, Right, well take a.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Break more phone calls coming, up update the poll results as.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well we're back after. This Fox Sports radio has the
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Speaker 2 (33:20):
Live into more of your phone calls coming, Up keith
And Virginia. Beach, keith what's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Today?

Speaker 14 (33:26):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (33:26):
DAN h six' one hard two forty, Five hard, Real,
Quick dan i'm the one to call it in a
couple of, months AGO and i told YOU that i
was having an issue with. My garage my wife and
my mother in law is tooking. IT over i was
sucking therapy behind It and, I'm unfortunately i'm seeking. LEGAL
counsel i try to use you as, a representation but

(33:49):
they weren't going. For It so i'll keep you updated.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
On that so you got booted out of your, Man, CAVE.

Speaker 15 (33:56):
Yes i told you that it's not a, cave man
and then it's just a case there's.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
No man so is there a go fundme page that
we can come up with you get you Back, in.

Speaker 15 (34:07):
Yes, yes, yes yes, Yes yes and if we do
that then we possibly can, you know get this train
on the. Right Track so i'll keep you updated. On
that look out for that and also real quick you
one of your one of your guys who's working mcloven

(34:27):
made an argument about system QUARTERBACKS and i tend to
agree with mc LOVEN because i have to really feel
that some of these quarterbacks are a product of, a
system Such as nino, last year which got him the
job At, The Raiders sam donald when he got Me,
in minnesota And Also. Baker mayfield so when mcgloven brought up,

(34:49):
that argument Even When joe montana ripped them, ABOUT that
i don't believe that you kind of supported mc glove and.
On THAT so i want to know do you feel
the same, way then or do you have your? FEELIES changed, i,
hang listen.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
All, right well you can run.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
A System joe montana ran, a system but Then other
niner quarterbacks ran the system and They Weren't. Joe Montana
steve young ran the system and Became a Hall. Of
Famer jim druckenmiller ran the. Same system. That's, Randall yes,
so yes do you run. A System does sean McVeigh have? A,

(35:24):
System Yes kyle shanahan has. A system there are these
offensive minded head coaches who. Have systems does that make
you a? System? Quarterback yes but you can run. The
system you can run it at a, good level, great
level Hall of, fame level or maybe an. Average level
the system is, in place what you do with the

(35:45):
system dictates how good. You Are uh Sewan, In Indianapolis,
hi sean what's on your?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Mind? Today?

Speaker 8 (35:55):
Hey dan talking about? Load Management and i'll see it
about IT because i have a couple boys that play
travel basketball and they just play so, many Games and,
I'M wondering i don't like load management JUST because i
feel able to go to the game and see. The
Stars but i'm just thinking with ALL the aau sports
and all the games that, they're playing just growing up

(36:16):
at a high level before they even get TO, the
nba they're just beating up. Their BODIES and i talk
To The north peak surgeons and they share how they're
seeing injuries on some of these kids that, are, seventeen
eighteen nineteen years old that they used to see in,
twenty seven, twenty eight twenty nine. Year, OLD so, I
mean i do understand a little bit of low, a
MANDMENT but i mean it's there's just so many games

(36:40):
before they even get to that high of. A, level yeah,
you KNOW the nba can't do anything.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
About this it doesn't happen IN.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
The nfl it gets rare if you find that somebody is.
Load managing are there too many games they load Manage
In Major? League baseball when's the last time, you said how?
Many games is such an? Such playing how it. Doesn't
happen you don't do that to. Baseball players we do
it to, basketball players. Football players everybody's trying to play

(37:11):
week in and week out for the. Most part if
your team secures a home, playoff throughout you know the
advantage of. Home field maybe you sit out for a game.
Or two but we don't do this, for baseball and
they're getting paid a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
As. Well, yeah yeah like football as a sport load.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Manages itself you basically play until you get hurt, and like,
all right put the next guy.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Out there and you're just a lot.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
Of players i'm not saying that no one has, any
value but they're treated like pretty as, disposable parts like,
all right then the next. Guy goes then? Who cares
and go back in that tent and put the next.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Guy in.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Nobody cares but you're PAYING these.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Nba players, once again we're going to get in the
next couple, of years somebody's going to make a hundred
million dollars in.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
A season.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Million dollars in, a season and that's when we're going
to look at. Load management that's when there's going to be.
An outcry you got all these, YOU know tv network
spending all. This money there's only so, much money like
a certain percentage has to go to. The players so
these guys are going to be making all of. This
MONEY and I understand i would never have done load management.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
GROWING up i.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
WOULD never. I couldn't i wouldn't be able to. Understand
that NOW should i have. DONE that i needed knee
SURGERY when i was fifteen years of age and held off,
doing THAT and i still have. Knee ISSUES now i
have a replacement KNEE and i tell parents when ask,
ABOUT it i do not, volunteer THIS but i do

(38:46):
say make sure you manage, you know the number of
innings that you're throwing it as a twelve, year, old
like these are things that come back to. Haunt you
i'd have, shoulder surgery, torn labram, you know the there's
an accumulation. That happens but you. It's individual you have
to know your child and just be careful because your

(39:07):
body's not done growing and we treat them like.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
They, are YEAH sometimes i look at players say IN.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
The nba AND maybe i don't know if this is,
a Comparison but i'm not a like vintage or luxury.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Car buyer but the.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
Same reason that say you might spend two hundred and
fifty third or a person might spend two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars on a car and then keep it
in their garage the, whole time and only they don't
use that as their. Daily driver, you know the Logic
of i'm paying this player all, this money SO now
i need to run him into the ground because of. All,
that well you maybe they're not your. Daily driver maybe
you'd use them as much as you need to so

(39:46):
that you don't, devalue it you don't run it into.

Speaker 15 (39:48):
The, ground.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
YEAH but i GOTTA get i gotta get value out.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Of you you, Still are you're still getting plenty of
value out of them with.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Not with what you got guys making fifty million dollars
that you have no idea who. They are i'm not
getting any value out of some of. These, guys now
your top, END guys i want you for. The postseason
that's the most. Important Thing And greg popovich was doing
this before, Anybody was and, you know they weren't. Exorbitant
salaries then he knew that the goal was to. Win

(40:20):
championships how many teams can have?

Speaker 6 (40:23):
That?

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Goal, Five seven take.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
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