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We got a couple up on the couple of them
up there for the holidays? You prefer to host or travel?
Most people prefer to host about sixty percent. Who's more
to blame for USC and Notre Dame rivalry going away
USC or Notre Dame Right now, Notre Dame has sixty
two percent.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Notre Dame wants USC. Notre Dame needs to have that
kind of game.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I think what people are focusing on is Notre Dame
USC has to like, hey, can we just schedule the
game earlier in the year, and Notre Dame said nope,
Let's keep it right where it is. And the inability
to be flexible there, I think is what people are pointing.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah, Paul, USC replaced Notre Dame with the Louisiana Raging
Cajuns next year on their schedule.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Of course you do.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
The rivalry is one of college football's top traditions. It
goes back to nineteen twenty six and so many great
games throughout the decades of this rivalry. USC moving to
the Big Ten Big ten schedule and Notre Dame doesn't
have that luxury independence has always been, but Notre Dame
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kind of leads with that's their strength, but that's also
a burden. You lose USC and it gets a little heavier.
You've got to get some quality opponents in there, and
scheduling BYU a solid replacement, but it's still not US six.
If Notre Dame wants to be in the top twelve,
the consistent ranking to get into the college football playoffs,
the margin for error got a little smaller because if
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you're playing the academies, if you're going to play Pittsburgh,
you're playing some of these teams that aren't going to
jump out with strength as schedule SYRACUSE not going to
get the job done, and that's you know, that's what
Notre Dame needed they needed us still there, but Notre
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Dame now guaranteed if they're in the top twelve that
they will be in the playoffs. So that eases a
little bit of the burden of trying to have quality
opponents here.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
We talked about this in the first hour when I
looked at the Niners when they had their injuries, and
you had injuries on the defensive side, their two best
defensive players, Bosa and Warner, and then you lose your
starting quarterback. Then you throw in mac Jones. Christian McCaffery
isn't what he once was, but he's still an elite player.
You lost some receivers. Brandon Ayuk no show debo, you
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trade him away, and basically George Kittle and a couple
of guys where you go. I don't know who they are,
but you know somebody's got to play the position. And
here they are eleven and four. Go back two months
ago with the Colts seven and one MVP candidate and
Jonathan Taylor, Danny Dimes is going to get a Sam
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Darnold kind of contract. Here, Shane Stichen doing an unbelievable job.
The AFC South is down they could end up with
thirteen thirteen wins, fourteen wins, and then all of a sudden,
Colts go down, and then you have Jacksonville and the
Texans moving up and moving up quickly, and this is
a team that's not going to make the playoffs. Meanwhile,
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the Niners, you beat the Bears, you beat Seattle, you're
going to be hosting. You have the home field advantage.
And keep in mind the Super Bowls in San Francisco.
Pretty amazing turnaround. But that's what happens. We want to
have a statement. We want to make a declarative statement
back in September or October because we got it all
figured out. But you got to factor in a lot
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of things. You got to factor in who you've played,
who you're going to play, injuries, certain matchups you're facing
this division, that division, backup quarterbacks, and that's where it's survival.
Seventeen games survival. Just ask the Kansas City Chiefs. By
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the way, Chiefs getting ready to have a new stadium
the Kansas The emphasis on the Kansas City Chiefs, I
would just get rid of the city and just call
it the Kansas Chiefs is they're moving to Kansas with
their new stadium.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yes, wonder how many people.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Are finding out right now that the Kansas City Chiefs
actually played in Missouri all this time and not Kansas.
I bet it's a higher percentage of I think, wait.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Wait, wait, there's a Kansas City, Missouri, Kansas City, Kansas.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, same thing, just different.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, Paul, I know we don't cover local politics and
stuff like that in Kansas City. So a lot of
people in Nashley were surprised. It's a three billion dollar
domed stadium, seventy percent public funded, and they're at least
at Arrowhead expires at.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Twenty thirty Dome stadium, so it's a couple of years
before they get there. Yeah. Yeah, they're not going to
be moving for a few years, yes, Martin.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
So the reason for all these dome stadiums is just
a host like a Super Bowl and a Final Four,
just so they can get more events in those stadiums.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
On concerts, soccer.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean that that's a lot of money when you
have a dome stadium, a lot of money. And it's
not just eight or nine football games or maybe a
Bowl game you could host. Usually, if you build a stadium,
the you know you'll have a super Bowl. The NFL
rewards you with a super Bowl, then there'll be a
super Bowl in Kansas, you know, maybe in twenty third,
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twenty thirty one.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Would assume that the NFL has approval process with all
new stadiums that teams build.
Speaker 7 (07:07):
You assume that, right, Yeah, Why wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
The NFL make a rule that says all future stadiums
have to be retractable roofs Because some of the greatest
moments in NFL history are based off the weather, some
of the most tense playoff moment.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You're not going to allow that weather in. That's why
you have a dome stadium.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You're not going to go, hey, it's going to pour rain,
It's going to be set, you know, twelve inches of snow.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
See I disagree. I think let's say a team like
the Kansaity Chiefs and their players are used to the weather,
and let's say they're facing the Miami Dolphins like they
were was it three years ago, and that brutal weather.
They may say, you know what, we're going to open
this thing up because our players are ready for this
and the Dolphins aren't.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
And you would have that option.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, also, factor.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
This in Kansas City was still better than Miami, and
you're hosting Miami, so I don't know. Yes, that was
brutally cold and probably factored into the Dolphins their play,
but you're the Kansas City was still going to beat
the Dolphins. I can't imagine that the NFL was gonna
let you manipulate a game by saying you can open
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it up, but you know it's gonna have pouring rain,
or it's gonna open up and it's really windy. We're
gonna open it up and there's gonna be twelve inches
of snow. I can't imagine the NFL would sign off
on that. That's why you have a dome to protect
you from the elements. You can't say we got a dome.
We're Buffalo, We're gonna open it up because we want
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to have cold weather. Why are you having a dome
to begin with? Yes, Tom, but for all about the.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Fan interactive experience, and they're so to speak that we
just have a vote and have they have a little
electronic device by their chair or something, and if more
than half say they want it closed or open, that's
what they go with. The People that actually gonn have
to sit in it for hours, get to decide majority
wins whether.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's open or up. Asked Marvin, when do we care?
What the thing? What the fans thought? Uh? I don't
know if the NFL care, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
I think the NFL care.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I don't think they're gonna go, hey, we're gonna take
a vote here. You decide right what you get in
your seat? And then all of a sudden, everybody, what
thirty minutes before kickoff? Okay, what do you want? We're
gonna open it or we're gonna close it.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
What are we gonna do? Yes, Marv. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
The NFL They're like, you're gonna come and watch this anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
So who cares?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, Pauline, I'm curious of hardcore football fans, the ones
that actually go to stadium's weekend week out, want a fresh,
new stadium.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
What what does it get you?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Your seat is your seat, Your view is your view.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I think you mentioned before the show you'd rather have
a better path in or out with traffic and a
better tailgate lot than all these accouterments that people don't
really want.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, I mean I've been to the Cowboys stadium. You
see the jumbo Tron and your neck hurts when it's
oh youing this the whole time every time there's a play.
Then you look at the jumbo tromp.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know it's Jerry's world and he wants to do
things bigger and better. Me it's just about getting Like
you go to a game New England, oh on a nightmare,
and they did try to build a little city around there,
so you went and buy like Christmas ornaments and there's
a steakhouse and you're like, great, well that's.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
What they all do.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I mean this Chiefs thing.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
If you read through the press release, it's like, plus
there will be expanded opportunities for mixed use facilities like
apartments and restaurants and retail and all of this. That's
what the plan is for all of them.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But it used to be they were moving stadiums into cities.
Now they're moving them to the suburbs.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Stadiums are supposed to be in cities, like the way
the country is set up is people are supposed to
drive into cities to do things and then they could
drive back out if they don't want to live around
people and they want to live in an area more
spread out, then you drive back out to a more
rural area. But now we're taking all of the stuff
that cities had and that made them great and moving
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them out to the rural areas instead.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
Yes, Todd, I'm less concerned about the turf and the
grass and the mountains or whatever the view in the background.
If there's like a Nathan's hot dog stand there, or
you got Jersey Mike's or Carvel, I'm all about, like,
what are the concessions looking like?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And then I can get around that all the food chips.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
If I'm happy with the food, I could work around
you know, not having the best view or whatever, or
what the surfaces or if there's a roof.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Ra It always goes back to me, for Yes, the
convenience of getting to and from a stadium and you
go to a Patriots game, there's one road in and
one road out, having you know, traffic, the parking, making
the fans pay for how much of this stadium and
then you're going to price gouge them on parking.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean, you know, once.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Again, we've talked about this for decades. When does the
fan get something? When do the owners actually say, you
know what we want to do this. Here's here's our
gesture here. They just don't do it, but we kind
of take it. You know, we're in this abusive relationship,
but I.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Love you.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I can't leave you. You know, Okay, we need you.
We got a mill rate up here. You know, all
of this stuff, but it's it continues to go on
because we as fans allow it to go on.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, pung.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I just think the new stadiums are more antiseptic and disposable.
They all look like each other. They're all glass and showy.
But I've been to the Cowboys stadium, and I've been
to Lambeau. Lambo is drastically better. And that's coming from
a Bears fan. Lambo's outside, you can smell everything, and
I remember getting food and it was fine.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Okay, But why are the Bears moving to the suburbs.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I don't know, be oh money.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well wait, you got this unbelievable stadium. The Packers aren't moving.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Let me when I tell you, the Bears fans don't
want them to move to the suburbs, and they definitely
don't want a dome, more so with the dome than
even the moving the Cowboys stadium is probably the worst
professional stadium I've ever been in for a game experience,
Like you said, it's overwhelmingly the jumbo tron. And then
they have those recessed suites that you can't see anything
but the player's legs.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I know that is the worst.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
And then you got the sunlight coming in. Yeah, but
you know, keep it. Detroit went with a dome. There's
the elements the vikings. Bud Grant has to be rolling
over in his grave like, wait, we're soft. Yeah, Sen,
that's you know, sort of back.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
To what you were saying though about like publicly funded
and privately funded all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, if the public is funding most of.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
The stadium saying the Chiefs case, it's like seventy percent,
we said, right, then the public should get seventy percent
of the profit.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I'm old for that.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
That's that's not that really isn't a crazy statement. You know,
like if you want to own, if you want to
put up thirty percent of the cost, then you can
get thirty percent of it back. But that everything is
sold to the public as hey, this is going to
bring in a billion dollars a year, but those the
economic benefits almost never match the public cost.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Ever, and you're going to say to the residents of
the state of Kansas, you guys got a pony up money, Hey,
you want to have a stadium here. Well, that's a
tough that's a tough state to say, Hey, you guys
needed support, you need to pay. We're gonna pay six
hundred million dollars. We need you to pick up the
rest of the tab.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
And so many of these stadiums they're owned by the public,
which you know, is great in all but the team
ultimately controls the area through the whatever least they have.
And so now Missouri basically has this legendary stadium that
nobody's ever going to play in anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, so that's great for the public.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
According to the Chiefs team president, who was asked by
local reporters, the new chief Stadium will have sixty five
to sixty eight thousand seats. That's down ten thousand, so
ten thousand fewer fans per week get to see the
Chiefs in person. Also, the NFL has a rule you
have to have seventy thousand seats to host a Super Bowl,
so hopefully they know that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well they do know, now do know? Now, I don't know.
You had to have at least seventy thousand yep.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Or the ability to transition to temporary seats.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
And Missouri had the Saint Louis Rams and then they left,
and now you got the kNs City Chiefs are going
to leave. It's a little.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Depressive, Yeah, but they're not moving that far away. The
Rams moved to LA This is thirty miles away. All right,
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We were talking about Kansas City Chiefs moving to Kansas
getting a new stadium, and that'll be twenty thirty. I
just spoke with a source who said the stadium will
be designed to accommodate eighty thousand or more with portable seating. Now,
Pauli mentioned that it was somewhere in the mid sixty
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at least seventy thousand to host a Super Bowl. What
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Night in America analyst joining us on the program, did
you care if you were coaching inside or outside?
Speaker 12 (17:25):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (17:25):
Good question.
Speaker 10 (17:27):
You know when I was coaching in Dallas for all
those years at you know, at and T Stadium is
a pretty good place to play. You know, I think
the biggest thing I love what Matthew Stafford said the
other day after the game. You know, you want to
instill a mentality and everybody that hey, anytime anywhere, you know,
home away, moon parking lot is what we used to say.
Speaker 11 (17:47):
And you know, just go play.
Speaker 10 (17:50):
Certainly there's an advantage of playing that home in your
place and the friendly confines.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Though yeah, I know we get caught up in the
old school the elements and the cold and you could
see the breath and there's snow and rain, and it
feels like the NFL is trying to move away from
that to make and it almost feels like every game
might look the same, the aesthetics of it because controlled environment.
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Can you see the NFL trying to shift towards that
maybe a little.
Speaker 11 (18:20):
Bit, but I know just being in TV the last
few years.
Speaker 10 (18:24):
People love the images of these snow games, though, don't
they When the snow's coming down and they're doing snow
angels and you know they do those slow mos coming
in out of commercials and you see the snowflakes. I mean,
it's pretty magical, and I certainly hope we don't lose that.
You know, I think so much of this stuff is
about sweets and money and Super Bowls and all of that.
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So I think that's why that's driving these decisions on
the league level, on the team level, and you know,
even probably.
Speaker 11 (18:54):
In the city level. You know, you think about Chicago.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
It makes me sick to think that Chicago is not
going to be playing at Soldier Field outside at some point.
You know, that's just a magical place. But you know,
these decisions are certainly going in that direction. There's no
doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, but you have to you know, if you're Buffalo
and you're Sean McDermott, like, you're getting guys, they have
to embrace what Buffalo is all about. Chicago, you've had
to embrace that certain stadium, certain environments where you're bringing
in guys, but not everybody is growing up in a
cold weather climate and they're going to Buffalo. You got
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guys who could have been in Florida or California or Texas.
So how difficult is it as a coach that you
have to get your players to adapt to this environment.
Speaker 11 (19:43):
I think it's a real thing. And you said it.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
I mean those states are talking about there's a lot
of amazing football being played excuse me, in the South,
and guys who grow up in the South and play
in Texas and Florida and then they go to school
in the South. I mean, these are new experience for them.
We've had receivers through the years. They're just looking there,
the look in their eye leading up to the game.
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It's like, oh God, this is going to be a disaster,
you know. So again you're trying to train them. You
certainly want guys who are mentally tough. They can play anywhere.
But it can certainly be an advantage to you, you know,
embracing the cold if you're one of those teams, if
you can get your team to think that way, it
can certainly help you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Worst environment conditions that you coached or played in.
Speaker 10 (20:28):
We played I think it was a Sunday night game
or Monday night game in Chicago when I was in Dallas,
and I just can't tell you how cold it was.
Speaker 11 (20:37):
I mean it was. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
And again you're trying to instill in everybody, hey we
can go play anywhere. But I saw the looks on
our guys faces early on. I'm like, h this better
go well early because you know, it just was so
damn cold. You couldn't move. Nobody wants to tackle. It
was freezing. I don't know what the number was, but
it was pretty damn cold.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And then you got Matt Lafloor, the Green Bay head coach.
Does he not wear a hat because he wants to
make sure you notice his hair or is he trying
to be a tough guy.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Yeah, well, you know, it's the same thing with the
guys with sleeves, you know. I mean, hey, we're not
wearing sleeves. I'm like, all right, that's fine, it's good.
I can see your arms. You're kind of trying to
make a statement here, but the goal is to play
well for three hours, so you better get the right
gear on. I used to tell our coaches, don't be
the guy who looks like the michelin Man, I said,
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no one layers up more than I do. I got
more stuff on, but the outer shell is going to
make me look like, Okay, this is kind of a
normal day. There's nothing worse for a player than to
see a coach who's kind of he can't even move
because he's got the big jackets on and his faces round.
I mean, that's instilling something in your players. So the
look for the coach definitely matters.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Talking to Jason Garrett, tune in Saturday nine, seven thirty
Eastern on Peacock Jason and the Football Night in America.
Crew get Ready, Ravens and the Packers and that'll be
exclusively on Peacock and then uh Niners and the Bears
Sunday Night Football. I'm trying to figure out how the
Niners did this, Jason, Like, how are they eleven and
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four given everything that's.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Happened to this team this season.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah, it's amazing, And you know the obvious thing, it's
a testament to Kyle Shanahan and his staff. You know,
those guys able to you know, just overcome it, you know.
I think the other part for me always with injuries
is how you build the team and if you're fortunate
enough to have injuries where you have some depth and
guys have certainly stepped up there and emerged. But for
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them to be where they are and playing as well
as they are, it's been amazing. And you know, I
think Kyle certainly instills that mentality. One guy that can't
be overlooked in this whole thing to me is just
you know, the quarterback play when Mac Jones steps in
and now Brock Purty comes back, you know, the quarterback
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play has not dipped at all.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Brock is playing at such a high level.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
But to have Mac be a guy who could you know,
kind of hold the fort there when he was out,
really really impressive. Hats off the Kyle Shanahan has done
a great job.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
And I thought that Philip Rivers has played pretty well.
Let's take his age out of this, because it feels
like we're grading him on a curve. But if I
just remove that and just say it's Philip Rivers out there,
the intelligence that he has to have to be able
to get away with not having an arm is pretty remarkable.
You study quarterbacks, you were a quarterback. What are you
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seeing with Philip Rivers?
Speaker 11 (23:39):
Well?
Speaker 10 (23:40):
I love him on so many different levels. I mean,
just his competitiveness, his love for the game. His passion
for the game is off the charts and it's been
that way forever. So for me, that's where it starts.
But he is so smart, and these guys when they've
when they've taken so many snaps, they just see things happen.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
Before they do.
Speaker 10 (23:58):
And that allows him to be such quick thinkers, quick
decision makers, and they seem to be right all the time.
And he made so many good throws, you know, over
the last couple of weeks where he just anticipates it
and you know that, oh, this guy's coming, the ball's
going there, it's out of my hand, and you know
he's defying all the odds because he can't drive the
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ball obviously like he used to.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
But you know, watch that game last night.
Speaker 10 (24:25):
I mean, he made some big time throws down the
field and you know, what a tribute to him.
Speaker 11 (24:31):
And I just love the look of him too.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
You know, I got such a kick out of the
whole press conference a couple of weeks ago when they
asked him how much you wait? And you know, go
back and look at earlier Philip Rivers and him now,
but still, like you said, he's driving the ball down
the field, making big time throws.
Speaker 11 (24:48):
The guy's an inspiration to me. I love him.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You did a project with NFL Films where you're evaluating quarterbacks.
So you talked to Troy, Steve Young, Warren Moon, Phil Simms,
Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Josh Allen,
Dak Prescott, rock Perty, Jordan Love. What was the one thing?
Was there a common thread with all of these quarterbacks?
Speaker 10 (25:13):
Well, it was a project that we've been thinking about
for a while, and last year we did something on
the evolution of the throwing motion. You know, fifty years ago,
Joe Namath was the best passor. I mean, it was
just this beautiful motion they had. And I got no
conversation with Aaron Rodgers a couple of years ago, and
I asked him. I said, hey, you're as good as
pastor as there's ever been.
Speaker 11 (25:34):
Give you a thought.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
I'm throwing and he starts describing the motion and I'm like,
what are you talking about? I mean, it was just
from out of the blue. I used to have this
name of throwing sequence on my wall when I was
growing up, and it.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Was like, wait, how did you not understand this having
been a coach and a quarterback.
Speaker 10 (25:52):
Well, he just starts talking about stuff that's I'm like,
what are you talking about. He's like, I like to
jump onto my left leg and I like to get
all my way to the inside of my left calf.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 10 (26:03):
Nobody talks about that, and he always has a different
spin on stuff. But we did a deep dive into
how throwing has changed, and it was a really fun project.
We talked to all the guys and there's a lot
of amazing coaches working with players, particularly young players now,
about throwing. But I thought it was better to go
to the primary source. So we talked to Rogers and
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Akeman and Prescott and Breeze and all these guys about
the motion and how it's changed. And then that evolved
into the misevaluation of quarterbacks. You know, the project this
year is was a two part series with NFL Films
where hey, you know, this is the most evaluated position,
it's the most important position, but it's also the most
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misevaluated position. And why So I talked to all these
guys and we came up with ten criteria for when
you're when you're trying to evaluate a quarterback. These are
the most important things in order. And it was so
much fun to hear these guys. I mean, you know,
seven eight, nine Hall of Fame quarterbacks talking about this,
and you know, talking about Philip Rivers. The first one
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that we came up with was passion for the game.
I mean, if you don't love football, I mean really
love it, not love the idea of it. Hey I'm
a starting quarterback in the NFL, but love it and
everything that comes with it. You know, you can't have success.
And we went on and on and we started we went, uh,
you know, passion for football, mental and physical toughness, and
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then who you are, your temperament, your drive to be great,
your leadership. And then it was football intelligence, football instincts.
And then we got to the stuff that everybody thinks about,
you know. Accuracy was the first physical trait, and then
it was arm talent and playmaking ability. And the last
one and it's the one it's the reason why I
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think we miss a lot was the physical tools. What
the guy looks like, how big his hands are, you know,
all of that stuff that sometimes causes people to get
enamored with the guy at the combine and so to
hear these guys talk about all these things, these guys
who have done it at the highest level, it was
so much fun for me.
Speaker 11 (28:10):
And if you get a chance to take a peek
at it.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You learn a lot about football. Yeah, but why do
we miss?
Speaker 10 (28:19):
We miss because we start with number ten. Number ten
is the physical took the guy walks into the room.
And it's really derived from a comment my dad made
to me. I just finished playing playing and I became
the quarterback coach with the Dolphins, and my dad had
been a coach and a scout forever.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
And we're on the phone as I was going to.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
Indianapolis to the combine, and he said, you're gonna fall
in love with someone by the way he looks when
he walks into the room and how he throws. Remember,
there's a lot more to playing quarterback than just that.
And he said, think about all the great guys you've
been around, on what qualities they had, and go back
to that. And I always use Troy Aikman as the
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ex because you know, he and I played together for
eight years and he is the prototype. He walks in
the room. It's like, that's what a quarterback looks like.
His hands wrap around the ball. He can throw it
like nobody. But I'll go to my graves saying what
made Troy Aikman great was his mental toughness, his physical toughness,
his passion for the game, his heart to the day
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I die. And I can give you countless examples of
what that was. And then you add all this great
physical ability on top of it, and that's why he
gets the gold jacket the day he retires.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I have said for a long long time, I want
to know if you love football, like, do you want
to be great?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I have to know that that part of it. It's
not Hey, I can throw the ball sixty yards. I
want to know do you truly love this game? Because
this game is going to rough you up. The highs
are unbelievable, the lows, and then you got to get
yourself back up. And this is where I think we
missed that you do fall in love and you go, man,
that guy looks like an NFL quarterback. I want a
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guy who's gonna nerd out and go, hey, let's go
over that defense we're gonna face again, or you know,
let me. I don't know it all. I want to
know it all, like I want to be a sponge
like all of those things. That's what you're trying to find.
And yeah, and.
Speaker 10 (30:20):
Think about all the great ones, the best ones in
all sports. Was Jordan's so much better than everybody else?
Speaker 11 (30:26):
Physically?
Speaker 10 (30:27):
I mean he was incredible physically, don't get me wrong.
But was he so much better? Tiger Woods so much better,
Jack Nicholas so much better, Fetter so much better. You know,
it's the other stuff that separates the greatest guys. And
you know, the question is how do you evaluate it?
And you know, I used to have my favorite combine question.
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I used to ask every player, particularly quarterbacks. I said,
say the kid came from Ohio State. Hey, there's one
hundred guys at Ohio State. We're gonna rank you guys
one through one hundred based on criteria how much you
love football.
Speaker 11 (31:02):
One loves at the most, one hundred loves of the least.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
And I said, we're going to ask your teammate or
coaches and every staff member at Ohio State to rank
you one through one hundred and provide the evidence of
the ranking. And invariably, Dan the guy would say, Oh,
I'd be number one.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
I love ball.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
It's just a feeling inside of me all that I'm like,
that's not the question.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
The questions.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
We're asking the people around you to rank you and
provide the evidence. It's not a feeling. Love is an action, right,
So do you really love it? Or do you love
the idea of it? And so the best ones I've
been around, they love it and there's evidence all over
the place in their lives.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Great stuff, Merry Christmas to you and the family, and
look forward to the NFL Films special there with all
of those great quarterbacks. Also you guys with Football Night
in America Ravens Packers, also Sunday Night Football Bears in
the forty nine ers. Thank you again, Jason, great stuff,
thanks to America. Christmas, Bud the Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach,
(32:05):
also a former quarterback as well. Uh, let's get a
couple of calls in here. Christ and Syracuse. Hi, Chris
are South Carolina? Christ and South Carolina. There's only one Chris.
Speaker 13 (32:18):
You're right, he is the goat. Yeah, and I'm giving
a set out to Chris, my all time number one
favorite caller as long as I've been on the show
listening since two thousand and seven, goes to christ and Syracuse.
Big question I always have for you is the mystery
behind the back room guys. Who are they? How did
they come? They just knock on your door and say, hey, Dan,
(32:39):
I need a job, or did you know them or
have a relationship with them before?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's I think the mystery is probably the better story.
I don't know if we want a deep dive on how.
You know, we were trying to build this man cave
out and the big german was bringing in people and
then you see work ethic.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I mean that that always stands out with me.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I want to know if we had really good workers
and so, you know, he brought in Dylan brought in
his brother Jay, Paully, had a couple of students at
Sacred Heart University. We were trying to just fill jobs
because it's not a ESPN, you know, so it wasn't
a destination for people. We're kind of in the middle
(33:24):
of nowhere and trying to get people to want to
do this. Understand what's it? You know, what you need
to do on a daily basis, Pride, work ethic, all
of those talent, all of those things, and you know,
we were very fortunate that we've had, you know, people
coming in and understanding they have to elevate their game
(33:45):
to get up to our level. And that's why we
have twelve people total on this show. Cody in Texas,
h Cody, what's on your mind?
Speaker 14 (33:56):
Dan?
Speaker 15 (33:56):
First off, I want to say, that's a that's a
fire sweater. You go, thanks sir, But man, just wanted
to wish everybody of Merry Christmas, a happy Hanukah and
tell you guys, man, thanks for another great year. Looking
forward to next year. You guys, this is the number
one show and it gets me through my day, gets
a lot of people to their day and just wanted
to call them with you guys a happy New Year
(34:18):
and tell you you know, we all really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, thank you, Cody. We appreciate that, We appreciate you.
We get this opportunity to do this every single day
never lost on us. And that's why I always say,
and everybody thinks I'm joking, it's every day is a
super Bowl. You have to treat it that way because
if you don't, then you're letting down your audience. The
interviews we do, the stories, that we break the information
(34:46):
we give you. You can't take a day off every
day is the super Bowl? All right, Well, take a break.
We're going to slide into the weekend. Some of the
things to look forward to. You have eighteen minutes, eighteen minutes,
and then the polls close. Most valuable, least valuable, and
from what I'm told, I don't know any information other
(35:08):
than there was a whisper going on in the back
room and apparently there is a two man race for
most valuable.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Dan n We'll take a break back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
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Speaker 2 (35:35):
Let's get to David in Ohio. Hi David, what's on
your mind?
Speaker 15 (35:41):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Dan?
Speaker 14 (35:42):
I got three Christmas? Then Ryan time here for you. Okay,
first one is first one is broadcos QB and something
Santa says.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Bo Ho ho ho yes, yes.
Speaker 14 (35:58):
Next one is this Frontle Cowboys fan and.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Reindeer Shaye Slay, Yes, stay and Slay.
Speaker 14 (36:11):
And the last one yeah yeah. The last one is
uh Cowboys Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And something it Kid receives Troy Toy.
Speaker 14 (36:24):
Troy Toy, goodby.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Thank you, dude. I don't know if we should be
that proud of those answers there. I don't think. Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You have eleven minutes to vote and then polls close
and we reveal most fable least.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Slide into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
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you can have that watch party tailgate special. Pick up
a pack at King Sawaian this weekend Giants Raiders both
two and thirteen. Yes, I will be interested in this game.
It's for the number one overall pick at least, or
that weekend Eagles Bills Super Bowl preview. We love to
(37:07):
say that Bears in the Niners, Bears coming off that
great comeback against the Bears and the Niners Packers, the
Niners now eleven and four. You also have the Spurs
and the Thunder Thunder twenty six and three in one
of those three losses against the Spurgers, Rockets, Lakers feel
like Lakers lebron always on Christmas Day. Sliding into the
(37:31):
weekend brought to you by Kings of Wine. Pick up
a pack in the bakery or deli section of your
local grocery store. Also quarter final odds college football. Miami
is getting nine and a half against Ohio State, Oregon
is favored by one and a half against Texas Tech,
Alabama getting seven against Indiana, and Old Miss getting six
(37:53):
and a half against Georgia. Gambling, Dan Patrick takes a
gamble coming up after the show, we'll tape that with
Shan Irving, Bad Larry and Dylan. Let's see Colby in Michigan. Hey, Colby,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well?
Speaker 12 (38:12):
I wanted to talk about Michigan's head coach in search
and how do I think they should go after someone
who actually has a strong draw line, because if you
think about it, a lot of these good coaches, they
a lot of times have really strong draw lines. Jim Harbaugh,
Pete Carroll, Nick Sirianni Urban, Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 14 (38:28):
You know there seems to be a correlation with that.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, then I would reach out to Bill Cower if
I were you. Colby, the first team went first team
All jaw on him and Don Shula first Team All Jall.
Speaker 12 (38:41):
Absolutely, Andy Reid, though Mike Holingram, they just might be outliers.
Speaker 15 (38:47):
They don't have it but they fall into the category,
so it's all good.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
All right, Well, thank you Colby. It's gonna come down
to who is it? Can you tell me why you
hired this coach? A great jaw line. Richie in Wisconsin,
Hi Richie, it's on your mind today.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Hi Dan, Thanks for taking my call. I had a
question for you and just a comment. I just wanted
to know which one of the dan Nets has been
with you the longest. And also I wanted to tell
you that I got sober in two thousand and One
of the biggest things that actually kept me sober was
(39:22):
I remember hearing Seatan's laugh just via the radio, and
I thought, this was so funny. I've got to figure
out a little bit more about these guys and what
they're doing.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
But I learned that this was the.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Best show, and I liked the fact that it came
on in the morning, and it was the only thing
that would make me stay sober. After I started watching
and listening, like around two thousand and nine, I knew
that if I went out and drank, that I would
miss the morning and I'd not get to.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
See or hear you guys.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
So I stayed sober and spent twenty five years, and
I just wanted to say thank you for all that
you do and for all that you guys have put together.
Merry Christmas to you all.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Thanks again, thank you for sharing your story, Richie. It's
a wonderful story. When I listen to Fritzi, he makes
me want to drink though so.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Shot.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Still.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
No, I'm very lucky to have Fritzie. Fritzi's been with
me longer than everybody else. I was with him when
I was doing Sports Center, he was booking guests when
I was doing the six o'clock Sports Center. Uh, Paulie
has been with me for almost the same amount of time,
Seating and uh, and then Marvin. But Fritzie is always
He's a constant in my life.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
Like a rock in your shoe against your better judgment.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You're hung there.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I'm very lucky to have you, very lucky. You you care,
your passion, you care, and Uh, that's that's the start
of a great worker, you know when you have those traits,
and you certainly have that.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Now you said that Marvin didn't have those trades.
Speaker 11 (40:53):
Okay, he's really improving.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Damn. I was trying.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
I see I see this help there, Yes, poles are
still open. Off that speech, you're gonna get at a bumper.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's we have six minutes, six minutes.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
And I've been with Dan for about twenty one years,
so it's not it's not like it's yesterday.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
We are going to have some steak and eggs, I
believe coming up at the top of the hour, we're
gonna do a little brunch here and we will announce
the most valuable least valuable Dan at and the most
valuable back room guy, and Todd's holiday names, Oh my God,
and Reggie Miller.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
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