May 29, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan talks to NBA insider Chris Haynes about last night’s Western Conference Finals win for the Minnesota Timberwolves and the upcoming NBA Draft featuring Bronny James. And he weighs in on Major League Baseball officially including statistics from the Negro League.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday. Come on in, stay a while, recap
what happened last night? Is it hope or false hope
with the Minnesota Timberwolves after the win in Dallas last night?
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(00:27):
show pull question, Seaton, what are we gonna go with
our two?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
We got up there right now, Dan. How many games
do the Timberwolves win in this series? How many more games?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Zero won?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Two or three? Well, I had them winning last night.
I'm gonna I'm gonna have them winning in many many Minneapolis. Okay, Yeah,
I'm gonna give it, give them one more, one more game.
We're gonna give him one more Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You would be with thirty nine percent of the US
you have the winning okay. One more of the fifteen
percent have been winning another three games.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, And it's never happened before in the history of
the NBA playoffs in a best of seven series. I
like the positivity I'm here for it, all right, all right?
Uh yeah, Pauline, I think I'm gonna go with three.
You know they did this a couple of weeks ago,
they beat the champs. I know, well, you got nothing
(01:25):
to lose by saying at all, yeah, and then you
can go I told you, yeah, of course, yes, I
don't mean it. I mean, of course. Okay. What's what's
more false? The hope for the Timberwolves or you saying
that they can win. That's a push? Okay, Uh, what's
the So we have our poll question there. We spent
a lot of time in the first hour. I watched
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Caitlin Clark last night. She had thirty points. They lost again,
and I was wondering what will be deemed a successful
rookie year. And I don't know if people are going
to say she had a successful year. Her numbers are
going to pale in comparison to what she was doing
at IOWA. And I said, you know, we need to
have perspective here on when legends or what we think
(02:10):
are legends in college and they go into the NBA.
I mean, Joe Burrow was unbelievable at LSU. His last year.
He had sixty touchdown passes, and then you go to
the NFL and then you learn he got hurt. You know,
you're brought back to earth Tiger when he joined the
PGA Tour, first event, finished, tied for sixtieth. Okay, then
(02:34):
we give you a little bit of time, a little
bit of space, so you can understand what the job is.
No matter what your job is, but social media is
not watching you your first day on the job selling
cars or you're working with computers. They're not watching you
breaking you down. I remember the first week that we
(02:54):
did this show in Los Angeles, and I was a mess.
I just I wasn't good. We had good guests, but
I wasn't good. I was trying to still feel what
it is. What are we trying to do? Who's our
audience now, perspective, opinions, great guest, you know us with camaraderie,
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you know, teamwork, all of that stuff. And it took
a long time. And yes, you can make the argument
we still haven't you know, figured it out, which is true,
but it takes time, you know. I brought up Barry Sanders.
Barry Sanders his final year at Oklahoma State, twenty six
hundred yards rushing thirty seven rushing touchdowns. That's one year.
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So then when he comes in first year NFL Lions
fifteen games, fourteen hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns. Hey, what happened Barry?
He's one of the greatest runners of all time. He
just came into the NFL. And there is sort of
a you got to check yourself at the door, and
(04:02):
Caitlin Clark is checking herself at the door. I mean,
Peyton Manning had twenty eight interceptions his rookie year. It
takes time. We don't give you time. It takes time.
I talked about Ronnie James. Ronnie James is going to
get a chance to play in the NBA because his
dad nepotism. But you get a chance to play now,
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it's up to you because your dad can only help
you so much. You got the opportunity. Now, what did
you do with the opportunity? The spotlight is going to
be very, very bright. If Bronnie James had the numbers
that Caitlyn Clark is putting up, we'd go, oh my god,
he's having a successful rookie season. But there's the expectation
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level with Caitlin Clark as we saw her and she
made it look easy. Bronnie has never shown us that,
but his dad has. And it's just having perspective and
being fair, and it's a word that we don't use
certainly in this business. Just be fair. Give somebody a
little bit of time. I don't know if Bryce Young
can be a starting quarterback. I don't know. Give him
(05:09):
another year. We'll have a pretty good idea. Trey Lance,
I don't know if he can play, probably not, but
i'd like to see him if he got another opportunity
here justin fields. I think he's a starting quarterback. Most
would disagree. I would like to see him get another chance.
With Mike Tomlin. It's not asking much, but it feels
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like it's punishment that we allow somebody to have a
little more leeway, you know, a little bit more rope,
And it's just it's kind of having realistic expectations. Anthony Edwards,
You're no Michael Jordan. He didn't say he was. The
media did. He said, I don't want the comparison because
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he knows what goes along with it. There's only one
player who embraced it, wanted it, and I had to
live up to it, and that's Kobe and he came
pretty damn close. That's one player since Mike has retired
all the other players. Hey, he kind of remind okay,
Anthony Edwards, does he kind of remind me of Michael Jordan?
(06:15):
I guess, I guess. I mean he attacks the rim,
he jumps, Okay, But look, I don't all of a sudden,
you know, I'm not going to take away that designation
of he could be a Michael Jordan type player just
because they bow out in five games in the Western
Conference Finals. It's not fair to him. He's twenty two.
(06:38):
I remember covering Mike when he just got into the NBA.
He was scoring, but he wasn't a team player. So
I think being fair to these athletes at the best
that we can. And you know, I'm in the minority
with it, but I just I've seen it happen so
(06:58):
many times when you're watching some buddy and then you
hope they get a chance to develop. We'll get some
phone calls in here. mAbs did blow a chance to
get some rest because last night Karl Anthony Towns played well,
ant Man played well, and Anthony Edwards talked to Micah
Parsons of the Cowboys and he had this to say.
(07:21):
He was asked about that can.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Tell somebody always saying for game six, where does that
confidence come from?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
What am I supposed to say? I'm supposed to say
we're gonna lose Game five. No, I'm not gonna never
say that. Michael Parsons, you know, he was rocking the
A one's and I told him he wears I was fourteen.
I bring it back some nice shoes for game six.
That's what I told him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I love it. I love it, I love it. It's good.
Non afraid, doesn't need to buy a dog. Not afraid.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You need that guy, yeah on the team. You need
that guy in the locker room. Yes, you know, confident
and he's twenty two.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
He also talked about Mike Conley's performance last night.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Y'all got any questions for Mike. Nobody want to ask
me about Mike by bike.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
About make especially the first half is oldest and.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
He was getting downhill lay laying the ball up, so
shout out to bike bite and he coming here with
these clown pants on. So y'all about to see him
in a minute. But that's my o G. That's my
point guard. He played great tonight and I couldn't ask
nothing more from him.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Mike Conley. What is Conley thirteen? Fourteen years older? Is
he thirty six?
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Me?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Not afraid? I love that, not afraid. Plus, if he
has a bad game, he says, looks it's on me.
I had a bad game. I'll get him again. I'm
coming back here for game six. He did that in Denver.
I'm coming back, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
I love comparing sports old to life old. Like Mike Colley,
Jesus been around forever. He's ancient, he's a grandfather. He's
thirty six. Yeah, And in life that's like, oh, you're
just getting into your career. Sports old and life old
is so different.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
We also talked about Rich Paul, Lebron's agent, and he
had this to say. I don't know if he slipped
up when he said this. He was on the Conference
Finals altcast on True TV. And the person you'll hear
is Chris Haynes. He's the reporter and he'll join us
coming up in about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Hell.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, look, Lebron's a free agent.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
You have to decide, and I got to focus on
his business, and who should be focused on his business?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
And let the Lakers hire whoever they want to hire,
and he's always He's always showed up and played for
whatever coach is there.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
You know, hold on real quick. You just said something rich.
You said, Lebron's a free agent.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
So I take it Lebron's going to decline that player
option because.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You know my busines Okay, Chris, you know I don't
do my business over the areas he just kind of did.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, So there's a lot of it feels like moving
parts there with Lebron and Bronnie. Lakers still got to
get a head coach. And then it feels like the
seventy six Ers are this year's New York Knicks, that
everybody in the off season is going to the Sixers.
Could Paul George go there? Could Lebron go there? Could
(10:30):
Jimmy Butler go back there? I'm thinking, why Philadelphia, Paul George?
Could he go to the Lakers? It always ends up
Knicks or Lakers. It feels like every player he could go,
he could go to the Knicks, he could go to
the Lake. Well there's a reason for that, because that's
when you click on the article. If you say Paul George,
(10:51):
he could stay with the Clippers. You're not clicking on
the article, Paul George Sixers question mark. All right, I'm
gonna click on that couple of phone calls here. Let
me see, let me see what we have here. Grant
in San Diego, Hi, Grant, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Hey Dan? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (11:11):
One seventy five? Saw so I say, I think I
say Bill Walton's life. In fact, I'm pretty sure I did,
because he said I did. Bill is really famous here
in San Diego for going to all the events he
played in the Electric Waste Band, and wherever he went,
he took this unusually tall camping chair with him because
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he's so stiff. The guy can't move. He really couldn't
bend over it all. But one thing he could do,
apparently is ride a bike.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
And one day I'm riding down a hill in our
Balboa Park. It's a pretty steep hill. I'm in my
car driving down, and I see coming the other way
up the hill this unusually large human on this huge
bike holding onto a parking pole as hard as he can,
like well, parking sign pole, and he's got those biker
cleat that lock into the pole, into the pedels and
(12:03):
one's in and one's out, and he's like a turtle
on his back. He's about to fall over. I can
seize in trouble. I pull up and say, Bill, do
you need a hand? He goes, yeah, brother, I really
could use a hand. And I go what happened? And
he says, I thought I could make it up this
hill and I just can't anymore. And now my pedal
cleat broke and give me a hand here. So I
(12:24):
helped him get his foot back in the cleat. There
was a stone in it. We got it back in,
and he says, now give me a push and I'm
going to go down the hill. I go, give you
a push. He goes, I can't fall over. I'll never
get up, and you can't pick me up.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I go, all right.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
So I pushed him as high as I could one, two, three,
He turned left and went down that hill. I never
saw him again, and he's lived until a couple of
days ago.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, thank you, Grant Now Bill growing up in the
San Diego area Mike and Maine, Hey Mike, what's on
your mind.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Today?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Hey Mike?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And I said, I was reading your book first. I
have a shout out to Paulie for bringing up the
tragedy memory of Cisco. I drank it once it was
banned in Fairfax County. Classic Pallie, but Dan in your book,
I was reading one of the greatest lines of all
time talking about Joe will you Name It? With his
foppish follicles pioneered by Ambrose Burnside Epimotics eighteen fifty five,
(13:22):
and Grandpa Simpson said, Eh, he looks like a girl,
Johnny unit Is. Now there's a haircut. You could set
your watch.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
To you nice. Thank you, Mike, Thank you, Ray and Sconsdale.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Hey, Ray, Hello, my friends, Thanks for taking the call.
I appreciate that. I know that I'm probably not always
the best caller because I'm a little bit of a Conraririan.
But I can't help it. This thing about patients with athletes,
Why I disagree with you on this? Psychologically, I think
you're correct. The problem is in social media or people's patients.
(13:55):
It's money. You give somebody ten million dollars a year,
a million dollars a month, whatever you're going to do.
My expectation is based and set on that. Right at
the moment. It doesn't make any difference anymore. About I
need to give you a couple of years checking at
the door. You give me a twenty eight million dollar
shoe deal. I want to see some results. When Nike
(14:16):
gave Tyler Woods or you know the golfer.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Tiger million dollars, Tiger.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Woods, Tiger Woods sixty million dollars, he came out of
the shoot and won a tournament. He lived up to
the expectation. There's always the problem with this sidebar. Did
we ever play the Bill Walton Charles Barkley interview?
Speaker 8 (14:38):
That's horrible.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Oh that's terrible.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
No, you're horrible.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, you're terrible. I think that would be funny.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Thank you, thank you. It would be fun. Thank you.
It could be fun if they did it. Yeah, be funnier.
You're right. People base everything off money. Then when it
comes to the pros, Oh, you make a certain amount,
you're supposed to be good. Okay, I mean it's fair.
Caitlin Clark makes seventy three thousand dollars a year in
the WNBA. Now she has a big shoe deal, she
(15:08):
has a sponsor, she has a lot of sponsorships. But
you have to earn it on the floor. Tiger had
to earn it when he played golf, you still had
to go out and play. It's not like they go,
here's all this money doesn't matter if you win or not.
Tiger went out there and earned it. Caitlin Clark has
to go out there and earn the respect. Can't put
(15:28):
a dollar sign on that, Yes, Sehn.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And Caitlin Clark has to earn that sneaker money by
selling sneakers. Yeah, you know, I get that performance as
part of it. But you know she just has to
keep being relevant and sell a bunch of sneakers for Nike,
and then she's going to be all set.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do we do that when we go to the movie theater,
da yell at the actor up there. If you know
Tom Cruise is going to make a hundred million dollars
off this movie. Like with athletes, though I can't believe
there's and they're paying you all that money, Okay, but
they still have to go out and perform in front
of us. They do have to earn it, at least
(16:10):
respect from us. We don't hand that to them just
because we hand you a big check there. If anything,
the target on your back is bigger. What do we
talk about with Jalen Brown he's getting three hundred million dollars.
Oh is he worked? Hey can you win in the finals?
Jason Tatum the amount of money that he makes. I mean,
(16:31):
we do that, we attach it to that, but I
think sometimes it's dangerous to do that because it's more.
I remember I said, if you're going to factor in money,
big Poppy deserved the MVP the year that a Rod
won it because Big Poppy made five million dollars a
year and I think a Rod made like twenty five
million dollars. So I said value, Like, that's financial value there,
(16:55):
Like do we factor that in Big Poppy what he
did for his team only five million, a Rod was
twenty five million. So there's different ways to gauge how
valuable somebody is or the expectation level. But yes, money
does cloud all of this where we don't give you
the opportunity to have an adjustment period. We'll talk to
(17:17):
Chris Haynes, the great NBA reporter. He'll join us coming up.
What exactly is Rich Paul trying to do with Ronnie James.
We'll have him try to help us understand that. Take
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(17:37):
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Speaker 9 (17:41):
Two NBA Insiders podcasting twice a week to plug you
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Speaker 5 (17:47):
All happening in only one place. This League Uncut, the
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Speaker 2 (17:54):
Haynes and me Mark Stein join.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Us as we team up to expound on everything we're covering.
Hearing and Chason.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
Listen to This League Uncut with Chris Haynes and Mark Stein.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get
your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
See which update the poll results. Then we'll bring in
our buddy, Chris Haynes.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
How many more games do you think the Minnesota Timberwolves
will win this series? Okay, zero, one, two, or three?
Right now, about forty percent of the audience have one,
which is a pretty easy answer. Thirty thirty four percent
have zero three games thirteen percent.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's pretty good. That's pretty optimistic. Chris Haynes, Senior NBA
insider for TMT Bleacher Report. Part of the Western Conference Finals,
all cast on True TV. You got Vince Carter and
Adam Lefko got a few Beaumani Jones is on there
and also he has a basketball podcast with Mark Stein
hashtag This League Uncut. Always good to see you. Chris
(18:55):
Hope or false Hope. After last night's win by the Timberwolves.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Well, DP, I think you have to go off of history,
and history will tell us no team has come back
from a O three deficit. So with that being said,
I have to say, is Falsehope?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay? What changed last night in your opinion? And does
that continue to change in game? You know the next
game here in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, there were a couple of things that changed, but
number one was Karl Anthony Towns, you know, showed up
on the offensive end, played efficiently, and I think if
you look at his game and how he operated in
that game, he didn't shoot his first three till later
in the game. He was attacking and getting downhill, getting
to the paint and finishing. Now he was in foul trouble,
(19:43):
but offensively he was very effective and efficient and that
helped Anthony Edwards, who the last couple of games is
trying to trying to been exerting his energy and so
in his offensive prowess. But he had a sidekick the
other night, and so I think that's what helped. Now
us is can Cat continue to do that because this
(20:04):
series is just not it's just hadn't been a good
series for him.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
US far a topic of conversation on the most dynamic,
best scoring backcourt in history. Do you buy into the
Kyrie Luca that's the best scoring backcourt in NBA history?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
You always do this DP the best scoring backcourt duo.
I will say.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
That, you know, off the top of my head, they're
probably the most talented offensive scoring duo.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You know, we heard what Draymond said about about his
guys talking about Stephan Clay, But I would say skill wise,
Luca and Kyrie pound for pound or better offensively, Look,
I would like to hold off and wait until at
least they get a championship, they get a champion ship,
(21:00):
then we can talk. You know, we had a there
was a somebody gave us a question on our cast
last night asking if this win, if the if the
Dallas Mavericks won last night, if that was see men
Kyrie's legacy. I'm like seeming this legacy and what we
talked this the conference finals, like what can we stop?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Can we hold off police. Can we get to the
very end?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Now, if you get a championship, we can talk talk
like Luca, he's arguably arguably the best player in the game,
but if he gets a championship, I'll stamp that. You know,
winning the championship is always favored the best player in
that series. I remember when Dwayne Wade won his championships
and there were arguments and if he was the best
player and you some would say yes, some say no.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
But he won a championship. You couldn't deny that.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
So I like to get to the end of the
road before we start talking this stuff deep.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I've been talking patients this morning with our expectation level,
whether it's Caitlin Clark or Brownie James. Have perspective here
and forty years of watching young players come in and
they get chewed up. Sometimes sometimes we give them a
little bit more rope. Not anymore. We want immediate gratification,
(22:12):
whether it's a coach in Phoenix or la. Hey, you
could be one and done or two years and done.
Are star athletes, We want them that you're getting paid.
We want to see you play. You better be playing
at a high level. When did it change that we
didn't allow almost a grace period to allow these athletes
to kind of get their legs.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I think social media has played a part in that,
where everybody has a voice, so there's more takes, there's
more commentary, everybody feels like they have to say something.
You know, Look, look, dep I think what it is
is that you know, this generation today, they're in the
microwave ags. You know, they want to pop a meal
in the microwave and they want and if it's heating
for longer than a minute, they don't want it. They
(22:57):
do their attention span is lost. But you know, whether
it's up and there's something great about putting the mill
in a crock pop or putting that bad boy in
the oven for eight hours allowed it to simmer. Then
when it comes out that meat is just falling off
the bone. Or if you like the barbecue like me,
put in the smoker, putting that smoker for eight, ten,
twelve hours.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Take let it take your time. You wrap it up,
wrap it up.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
You put your you know, if you got some ribs
or whatever, you put.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Your your honey down there on the meat.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You put your your brown, your brown sugar, and you
just wrap it up and foil put it back in
that bad boy another four or five hours, and then
it comes off.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
As man, you're too young to have this kind of perspective.
Let's guess how old Chris Haynes is. Okay, tod, I'm
gonna go with you.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
Chris Haynes is thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, I was going thirty eight seating think you guys
are being rude. He's thirty six, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (23:55):
That hairline is beautiful, but you know he og so
I'm gonna say forty two. He was like he was
like two years ahead of me in high school.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
His buck O'Neil would say, good black, don't crack, Yeah, sure, don't.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Okay, all right, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
This is really tough.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
His shoe game forty years old, even all right.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Forty years old, even shoe game. You know, I always
keep coming.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
He always got him close by. All Right, here we go.
Chris Haynes, bleacher ords, C and t is.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
I believe Marlon got it forty two?
Speaker 11 (24:29):
Wowme on now all.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Right, and he still got game too.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
I'll be forty three to endo August August thirty first.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
All right, help me understand what's going on? With Rich
Paul with did he slip up and say Lebron's a
free agent or was that premeditated? And it's and how
is he orchest He's almost trying to orchestrate where Bronni's
going to go, as if they have a choice where
he's going to go. It's not like you're a high
(24:57):
school athlete picking your college. But man, and I get
the feeling that Rich Paul is at least presenting this
to other teams that we're going to dictate where he's
going to go, and if you don't abide by us,
we don't want And I don't know what those I
don't know what he could do if a team drafts Brownnie,
what are you going to do? Can't go back to college?
So what do you think what's Rich Paul's game here?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Well? I think first I'm gonna ask a couple, you know, questions,
a couple of ways DPS. So first of all, all
I think what he wants is Brianni to be drafted first.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
And foremost, you know, when you get drafted, it's not DP.
Back in the day.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
You know, I wasn't Covenant League back in the day,
but you know, in the nineties, I remember, remember when
second round picks DP. Remember most second round picks didn't
make the team. They didn't get guaranteed contracts back then.
That it's changed over the last ten years. Second round
picks are getting three four year guaranteed deals. You know,
they're getting commitment, they're getting time and resources invested into them.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
So Rich Paul's.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Statement to me about him not him not he's not
going to allow Brinnie James to sign a two way contract,
and people took that ass off he gonna try to
keep Briannie from going to the G League.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
No, it's not that, it's.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
That he would rather Brinnie get drafted, which means a
team is showing a commitment and he could get three
four years guaranteed money under his belt. And also about
the dictating, I think, you know, I think basically if
there is any dictating, I think the only dictating is
as of right now, only power he has in dictating
is trying to tell teams in the form of the
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league that two ways would not be considered. So if
you're really thinking about if you're really thinking about having
the chance of getting Briannie is going to take one
of your draft picks, I think that's what he was
trying to get to the masses.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, but what if a team drafts human says, hey,
we're going to send you down to the G League.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Which that's fine, No, that's fine drafting. He's still getting
a three year minimum guaranteed. Yeah, And that's the investment.
That's the commitment. You know, when you get a two way,
you know, that's a year deal. Then you know, you
play fifty you play forty something games in the NBA,
forty something games in the G League. If things work out,
you know, they can move on after a year, you know.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
So that's the difference between a two way deal and.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Then getting drafted, where that's actually a commitment that a
team is putting into you and they're going to give
you a three year, four year guaranteed deal. And so
that's where Rich Paul is trying. That's the direction Rich
Paul is trying to steer his.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Climbing Lebron going to re sign with the Lakers DP.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
I have a hard time believing he's going to go
anywhere else and fatigue. I'm sorry to answer your question
about the slip up. It wasn't a slip up. I
don't know what I will say is a lot of
players and agents feel like if their client has a
player option, they view it as being a free agent
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because they have that option to pick it up or not.
But you're technically not a free agent until you decline
that player option. So I don't know if people saw
the atcame I immediately as soon as Rich Paul say,
you know, Blonde's a free.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Agent, I had to look.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
So if you saw, if you look at the acast,
look at the replay, he says, Lebron is free agent.
So I look down, because you know, this is my job,
it's my job to stay up on top of this.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I look down and start googling.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I'm like, when did Lebron announce he was declined the
player option?
Speaker 7 (28:19):
And I couldn't find it nowhere.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
So then I'm waiting, and I got my head back
up and I waited to Rich Paul finished, and then I,
you know when interjecting, like, hold on, you mean he's
declined that player option, and he was like, Chris, you
know I'm not going to negotiate there.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
We'll get to that down the road.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Are the Lakers waiting to announce their head coach until
the finals are over because that coach might be working
the finals.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, I would be very surprised if their next heads
coaches anybody but JJ Reddick.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Everything that I'm hearing is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Ad From what I know, he's doing some background calling
some candidates, some assistant coaching candidate this who might be
able to join his staff or might not be able
to join his staff, And so yeah, it's.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I'm pretty I'm pretty positive it'll be JJ.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So you have the most experienced NBA player in history
coached by the least experienced head coach in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, what we've seen coaches getting those type of opportunities.
Steve Nash got a great opportunity as his first head
coaching gig. Jason Kidd did the same thing, Derek Fisher.
You know, we're starting to see a trend. Steve Kerr. Yeah,
Steve Kerr. I mean you were looking at you see
what Steve Kerr turned out to be. Look at Jason Kidd.
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He's a win away from leading this team to the
NBA Finals. So it has some success. But that's a
tough job to take. It's just tough job to take.
I mean, it's Lebron James I understand JJ and Lebron
get along. Well, they have a podcast. That's just a
tough job to accept. You know, under Rod Polinka tenure,
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he is fired. Let me see Luke Walton fire, Frank Vogel,
He's fired Darvin Ham So he's safe.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
So if anybody's going to get some blame, it's going
to be the head coach. That's why.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
And there's high expectations with that team, as there should
be anytime you have a team of Lebron James.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
On top of that being the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Celtics waiting for the winner of this series. But let's
say the Celtics win the title. How will history treat
this year's Boston Celtics.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
I'm thinking a treat on favorably. I mean, they had
a phenomenal season.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
They were the most dominant team for the entire eighty
two game season. You know, I know we like to
talk about the path that the team's a team takes,
but all you can do is play against the opponent
that's right across from you.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
So I don't think we're going to diminish them now.
You know, when you.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Start having debates about who's the best teams I don't
know that this bost Celtics team will be up there,
but I will say this, I definitely will like to
see the Dallas and Average in the Boston Selfish meet
in the finals. I just think of they have some
interesting subplots going on, make it more interesting, and maybe
that can boost her up. If the Celtics were to
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win the title, maybe that can boost her up. Just
how relevant and dominant this team as being. If we
if we can have a good a good series first
and foremost and then have some drama go with it.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I can't help but imagine if Boston doesn't win
the title.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
That's a problem.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
The problem down list we I've covered the Celtics the
last four years since they've been on their championship run,
and you know, they can disappoint you. You know, the
moment you think they've got it all figured it figured out,
the moment you think they got those turnovers out of
the way, the turnovers come back, those those shot the
shot selection, you know, gets horrible again. So they have
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a tendency to I don't know what, I don't want
to say play down, but they have a tendency to
not play to the level expectations. So if they were
to lose like this would be a big blimish on
the Celtics in general. I'm talking about just this whole team,
the whole core cast. They have to get it done.
It's their championship to lose.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us as always, Chris.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Hey, I appreciate all those that said mid thirties, late thirties.
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That's Chris Haynes, senior NBA insider for TNT Bleacher Report
and part of the Western Conference Finals alt cast airing
on True TV. I got Vince Carter there, Adam Lefco,
Beaumani Jones on there. All right, we'll take a break.
We'll get to more phone calls coming up back after this.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
The Negro League statistics will be officially incorporated into Baseball's
History Oracle Records. The move opens the door for twenty
three hundred Negro League players to have their accomplish accomplishments
entered into the official database. The person who started this
and it's his job for the last four years to
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try to get the information box scores from Negro League games.
He will join his coming up at the top of
the hour, but Baseball confirmed that the Negro League statistics
will officially become part of Baseball's historical record. And this
is going to change some people's opinions of certain players
because you're going to see the numbers that they put up.
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Like Josh Gibson, considered one of the best catchers in
baseball history, and he will now lead Baseball in multiple
batting categories. His career batting average, his slugging percentage, his
ops they will be better than those of Tycobb and
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Babe Ruth. So he's going to have some of the
highest season statistically in baseball history. So we'll talk to
the researcher, the man who's made it his mission to
find as many box scores as possible, and he's been
on a quest here for quite a few years. So
jonas top of the hour.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Yes, Pauli, there is so much to this story about
different other leagues that were in business for a year
or two and their stats are incorporated. But some other
players like Willie Mays after this gained ten career hits.
He got the ten hits he got with the nineteen
forty eight Birmingham Black Bearings. Jackie Robinson was credited with
another forty nine hits in his career. Well Statchel Page
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at A he gained twenty eight wins yesterday. It's pretty
nice day.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Twenty wins in a single day. Yeah, not around to
enjoy it, but yeah wow. Let me see we'll get
two more funkals? Can I get theme music? Marvin?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Who Who's stats would you want? Tell me? Tell me?
Tell me who stands? Whose stats? Who'd you want?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Okay? These two players their first four hundred games played.
Through their first four hundred games that they played in
the NBA, one averaged twenty seven. One averaged almost twenty nine.
One averaged seven rebounds six and a half assists, the
other one eight point seven rebounds in eight point three assists.
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One in his first four hundred games won fifty five
percent of his games, the other player won fifty six,
almost fifty seven percent of his games. Let's see anything
else in here? Field goal percentage. Player one he made
forty six percent of his shots through his first four
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hundred games, and player two made forty seven percent of
his shots. Who stats do you want, Paul, They're very close.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Player two seems to tick better and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yes, that player is Luka Doncic. Player one is Lebron James.
Come on, come on? Whoa stall of a day stant
of to day, stata day stant.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Out to day.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
This is the start of the day. Three point shots
will factor in with Luca scoring just a little bit
more than Lebron because as far as three points made
three pointers made per game, Luca averages three Lebron one
point three. Pretty interesting though, uh, that they're that close
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with Lebron and Luca. Yes, Ton, so it.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
Should have been the Luca MJ debate all along, not Lebron.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
We've all been wrong all this time.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Come on, Todd, Luca's got to win a couple of
titles there. Those are pretty pretty, you know, big numbers
to be able to do that. Plus, when people see
Luca in person, it's rare when you go, I get it,
like you you see him. It's also it's like the
first time I saw Jill Montana in person, I go,
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you're there's no way, how's that guy killing it? He's
you know, six ' two one eighty. You look at Luca,
and you're like, that guy's a great basketball player. How
does he move? How does he get a shot? Like
you don't come away and going, man, have you seen him?
He looks like the David in the statue, Like he
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just is so big, he is wide.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
It is fairly shocking to watch him play sometimes, Like
there are moments last night that he would like, bring
the ball up the court.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Do that sort of slow easing his way into the key.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Then a bunch of like mini dribbles off the ground
and kick it around to somebody to hit.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
A three or so You're like, what the hell is this?
How is this working?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
There?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
They're just players in all sports where you go, I
don't know how, but it's all technique. But you see
him and it's not like you go, now, that's an
athlete right there. He looks like I, you know, somebody
I was in a fraternity with, you know, Like it's
like all the guys like, hey, how you feeling. I'm
not very good today. I'm gonna go out and get
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a treble double. He's not David, He's just Dave. Yeah. Oh,
but you're watching him and you're just going, how oh,
I don't get it. Let me see, let me see
what do we have here? Uh? Brock and Missouri high Brock,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
Hey? Uh, I just want to say I heard you
ask about an ouptioneer and play by play? Yeah, I
am an and.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Brock.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Mightn't you pay attention to what's going on there at
your house?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Thank you? Brock? Maybe calling with a better time got
a fire going on telling me about being an auctioneer?
Is middle aged? Still? Like thirty five or forty? Like
we had Chris Hanes on he's forty two? Like, what
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is middle age? Now?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Forty?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Is it is? It is fifty? Middle aged? People are
living longer.
Speaker 10 (39:36):
Yeah, but a fifties middle aged and we're saying the
average president could live.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
To one hundred.
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Okay, it's weird about what calling something middle aged?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Okay, well, what is middle aged?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Is middle aged more of a concept than a number
where you're you have kids, you're established in life, you're
no longer partying, et cetera, et cetera. That seems like
middle aged? Okay, Like it's more of a concept. Like
does Marvin look like middle aged?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Guy?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
What is he?
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Forty?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Thirty nine?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Thirty nine?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm forty now forty all that train mister birthday.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Happy birthday, because after middle aged is old age?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Hello? Is that? Is that what comes to me old age?
I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
It feels like middle age has a pretty wide birth,
pretty wide window.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I think middle aged is a feeling. I don't think
it's a number state of mind.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Yes, what about fifty five to sixty nine? You're aging,
but you're not old.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh I'm old. I'm aging, But I wouldn't say you're
an old guy.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
You you would see your.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Age getting old. Right, I'm not old. You have entered
the portal?
Speaker 10 (40:41):
Yes, yes, I think it may tie into like the
midlife crisis, like what Paulie was saying. It's more of
a concept when you start having an urge that you
need some kind of convertible and you don't feel as
a young and attractive anymore, and you start buying things
or needing things to prove that.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
You're anybody feeling that? Do women have a middle Why
is it a guy as a midlife crisis? Do women?
You never hear about that. So he's like, oh, you've
seen Tommy over there, he got his corvette. Yeah, midlife crisis.
Speaker 11 (41:11):
Yes, are Cougars going through midlife crisis, you get a
younger guy.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Oh is that their version?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I guess, let's hope.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
So that's a fair aenalgy.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
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show pull question, Seaton, what are we gonna go with
our two?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
We got up there right now, Dan. How many games
do the Timberwolves win in this series? How many more games?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Zero won?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Two or three? Well, I had them winning last night.
I'm gonna I'm gonna have them winning in many many Minneapolis. Okay, Yeah,
I'm gonna give it, give them one more, one more game.
We're gonna give him one more Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You would be with thirty nine percent of the US
you have the winning okay. One more of the fifteen
percent have been winning another three games.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, And it's never happened before in the history of
the NBA playoffs in a best of seven series. I
like the positivity I'm here for it, all right, all right?
Uh yeah, Pauline, I think I'm gonna go with three.
You know they did this a couple of weeks ago,
they beat the champs. I know, well, you got nothing
(01:25):
to lose by saying at all, yeah, and then you
can go I told you, yeah, of course, yes, I
don't mean it. I mean, of course. Okay. What's what's
more false? The hope for the Timberwolves or you saying
that they can win. That's a push? Okay, Uh, what's
the So we have our poll question there. We spent
a lot of time in the first hour. I watched
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Caitlin Clark last night. She had thirty points. They lost again,
and I was wondering what will be deemed a successful
rookie year. And I don't know if people are going
to say she had a successful year. Her numbers are
going to pale in comparison to what she was doing
at IOWA. And I said, you know, we need to
have perspective here on when legends or what we think
(02:10):
are legends in college and they go into the NBA.
I mean, Joe Burrow was unbelievable at LSU. His last year.
He had sixty touchdown passes, and then you go to
the NFL and then you learn he got hurt. You know,
you're brought back to earth Tiger when he joined the
PGA Tour, first event, finished, tied for sixtieth. Okay, then
(02:34):
we give you a little bit of time, a little
bit of space, so you can understand what the job is.
No matter what your job is, but social media is
not watching you your first day on the job selling
cars or you're working with computers. They're not watching you
breaking you down. I remember the first week that we
(02:54):
did this show in Los Angeles, and I was a mess.
I just I wasn't good. We had good guests, but
I wasn't good. I was trying to still feel what
it is. What are we trying to do? Who's our
audience now, perspective, opinions, great guest, you know us with camaraderie,
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you know, teamwork, all of that stuff. And it took
a long time. And yes, you can make the argument
we still haven't you know, figured it out, which is true,
but it takes time, you know. I brought up Barry Sanders.
Barry Sanders his final year at Oklahoma State, twenty six
hundred yards rushing thirty seven rushing touchdowns. That's one year.
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So then when he comes in first year NFL Lions
fifteen games, fourteen hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns. Hey, what happened Barry?
He's one of the greatest runners of all time. He
just came into the NFL. And there is sort of
a you got to check yourself at the door, and
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Caitlin Clark is checking herself at the door. I mean,
Peyton Manning had twenty eight interceptions his rookie year. It
takes time. We don't give you time. It takes time.
I talked about Ronnie James. Ronnie James is going to
get a chance to play in the NBA because his
dad nepotism. But you get a chance to play now,
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it's up to you because your dad can only help
you so much. You got the opportunity. Now, what did
you do with the opportunity? The spotlight is going to
be very, very bright. If Bronnie James had the numbers
that Caitlyn Clark is putting up, we'd go, oh my god,
he's having a successful rookie season. But there's the expectation
(04:45):
level with Caitlin Clark as we saw her and she
made it look easy. Bronnie has never shown us that,
but his dad has. And it's just having perspective and
being fair, and it's a word that we don't use
certainly in this business. Just be fair. Give somebody a
little bit of time. I don't know if Bryce Young
can be a starting quarterback. I don't know. Give him
(05:09):
another year. We'll have a pretty good idea. Trey Lance,
I don't know if he can play, probably not, but
i'd like to see him if he got another opportunity
here justin fields. I think he's a starting quarterback. Most
would disagree. I would like to see him get another chance.
With Mike Tomlin. It's not asking much, but it feels
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like it's punishment that we allow somebody to have a
little more leeway, you know, a little bit more rope,
And it's just it's kind of having realistic expectations. Anthony Edwards,
You're no Michael Jordan. He didn't say he was. The
media did. He said, I don't want the comparison because
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he knows what goes along with it. There's only one
player who embraced it, wanted it, and I had to
live up to it, and that's Kobe and he came
pretty damn close. That's one player since Mike has retired
all the other players. Hey, he kind of remind okay,
Anthony Edwards, does he kind of remind me of Michael Jordan?
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I guess, I guess. I mean he attacks the rim,
he jumps, Okay, But look, I don't all of a sudden,
you know, I'm not going to take away that designation
of he could be a Michael Jordan type player just
because they bow out in five games in the Western
Conference Finals. It's not fair to him. He's twenty two.
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I remember covering Mike when he just got into the NBA.
He was scoring, but he wasn't a team player. So
I think being fair to these athletes at the best
that we can. And you know, I'm in the minority
with it, but I just I've seen it happen so
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many times when you're watching some buddy and then you
hope they get a chance to develop. We'll get some
phone calls in here. mAbs did blow a chance to
get some rest because last night Karl Anthony Towns played well,
ant Man played well, and Anthony Edwards talked to Micah
Parsons of the Cowboys and he had this to say.
(07:21):
He was asked about that can.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Tell somebody always saying for game six, where does that
confidence come from?
Speaker 6 (07:28):
What am I supposed to say? I'm supposed to say
we're gonna lose Game five. No, I'm not gonna never
say that. Michael Parsons, you know, he was rocking the
A one's and I told him he wears I was fourteen.
I bring it back some nice shoes for game six.
That's what I told him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I love it. I love it, I love it. It's good.
Non afraid, doesn't need to buy a dog. Not afraid.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You need that guy, yeah on the team. You need
that guy in the locker room. Yes, you know, confident
and he's twenty two.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
He also talked about Mike Conley's performance last night.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Y'all got any questions for Mike. Nobody want to ask
me about Mike by bike.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
About make especially the first half is oldest and.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
He was getting downhill lay laying the ball up, so
shout out to bike bite and he coming here with
these clown pants on. So y'all about to see him
in a minute. But that's my o G. That's my
point guard. He played great tonight and I couldn't ask
nothing more from him.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Mike Conley. What is Conley thirteen? Fourteen years older? Is
he thirty six?
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Me?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Not afraid? I love that, not afraid. Plus, if he
has a bad game, he says, looks it's on me.
I had a bad game. I'll get him again. I'm
coming back here for game six. He did that in Denver.
I'm coming back, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
I love comparing sports old to life old. Like Mike Colley,
Jesus been around forever. He's ancient, he's a grandfather. He's
thirty six. Yeah, And in life that's like, oh, you're
just getting into your career. Sports old and life old
is so different.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
We also talked about Rich Paul, Lebron's agent, and he
had this to say. I don't know if he slipped
up when he said this. He was on the Conference
Finals altcast on True TV. And the person you'll hear
is Chris Haynes. He's the reporter and he'll join us
coming up in about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Hell.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, look, Lebron's a free agent.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
You have to decide, and I got to focus on
his business, and who should be focused on his business?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
And let the Lakers hire whoever they want to hire,
and he's always He's always showed up and played for
whatever coach is there.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
You know, hold on real quick. You just said something rich.
You said, Lebron's a free agent.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
So I take it Lebron's going to decline that player
option because.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You know my busines Okay, Chris, you know I don't
do my business over the areas he just kind of did.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, So there's a lot of it feels like moving
parts there with Lebron and Bronnie. Lakers still got to
get a head coach. And then it feels like the
seventy six Ers are this year's New York Knicks, that
everybody in the off season is going to the Sixers.
Could Paul George go there? Could Lebron go there? Could
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Jimmy Butler go back there? I'm thinking, why Philadelphia, Paul George?
Could he go to the Lakers? It always ends up
Knicks or Lakers. It feels like every player he could go,
he could go to the Knicks, he could go to
the Lake. Well there's a reason for that, because that's
when you click on the article. If you say Paul George,
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he could stay with the Clippers. You're not clicking on
the article, Paul George Sixers question mark. All right, I'm
gonna click on that couple of phone calls here. Let
me see, let me see what we have here. Grant
in San Diego, Hi, Grant, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (11:09):
Hey Dan? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (11:11):
One seventy five? Saw so I say, I think I
say Bill Walton's life. In fact, I'm pretty sure I did,
because he said I did. Bill is really famous here
in San Diego for going to all the events he
played in the Electric Waste Band, and wherever he went,
he took this unusually tall camping chair with him because
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he's so stiff. The guy can't move. He really couldn't
bend over it all. But one thing he could do,
apparently is ride a bike.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
And one day I'm riding down a hill in our
Balboa Park. It's a pretty steep hill. I'm in my
car driving down, and I see coming the other way
up the hill this unusually large human on this huge
bike holding onto a parking pole as hard as he can,
like well, parking sign pole, and he's got those biker
cleat that lock into the pole, into the pedels and
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one's in and one's out, and he's like a turtle
on his back. He's about to fall over. I can
seize in trouble. I pull up and say, Bill, do
you need a hand? He goes, yeah, brother, I really
could use a hand. And I go what happened? And
he says, I thought I could make it up this
hill and I just can't anymore. And now my pedal
cleat broke and give me a hand here. So I
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helped him get his foot back in the cleat. There
was a stone in it. We got it back in,
and he says, now give me a push and I'm
going to go down the hill. I go, give you
a push. He goes, I can't fall over. I'll never
get up, and you can't pick me up.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I go, all right.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
So I pushed him as high as I could one, two, three,
He turned left and went down that hill. I never
saw him again, and he's lived until a couple of
days ago.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, thank you, Grant Now Bill growing up in the
San Diego area Mike and Maine, Hey Mike, what's on
your mind.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Today?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Hey Mike?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And I said, I was reading your book first. I
have a shout out to Paulie for bringing up the
tragedy memory of Cisco. I drank it once it was
banned in Fairfax County. Classic Pallie, but Dan in your book,
I was reading one of the greatest lines of all
time talking about Joe will you Name It? With his
foppish follicles pioneered by Ambrose Burnside Epimotics eighteen fifty five,
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and Grandpa Simpson said, Eh, he looks like a girl,
Johnny unit Is. Now there's a haircut. You could set
your watch.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
To you nice. Thank you, Mike, Thank you, Ray and Sconsdale.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Hey, Ray, Hello, my friends, Thanks for taking the call.
I appreciate that. I know that I'm probably not always
the best caller because I'm a little bit of a Conraririan.
But I can't help it. This thing about patients with athletes,
Why I disagree with you on this? Psychologically, I think
you're correct. The problem is in social media or people's patients.
(13:55):
It's money. You give somebody ten million dollars a year,
a million dollars a month, whatever you're going to do.
My expectation is based and set on that. Right at
the moment. It doesn't make any difference anymore. About I
need to give you a couple of years checking at
the door. You give me a twenty eight million dollar
shoe deal. I want to see some results. When Nike
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gave Tyler Woods or you know the golfer.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Tiger million dollars, Tiger.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Woods, Tiger Woods sixty million dollars, he came out of
the shoot and won a tournament. He lived up to
the expectation. There's always the problem with this sidebar. Did
we ever play the Bill Walton Charles Barkley interview?
Speaker 8 (14:38):
That's horrible.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Oh that's terrible.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
No, you're horrible.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, you're terrible. I think that would be funny.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Thank you, thank you. It would be fun. Thank you.
It could be fun if they did it. Yeah, be funnier.
You're right. People base everything off money. Then when it
comes to the pros, Oh, you make a certain amount,
you're supposed to be good. Okay, I mean it's fair.
Caitlin Clark makes seventy three thousand dollars a year in
the WNBA. Now she has a big shoe deal, she
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has a sponsor, she has a lot of sponsorships. But
you have to earn it on the floor. Tiger had
to earn it when he played golf, you still had
to go out and play. It's not like they go,
here's all this money doesn't matter if you win or not.
Tiger went out there and earned it. Caitlin Clark has
to go out there and earn the respect. Can't put
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a dollar sign on that, Yes, Sehn.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
And Caitlin Clark has to earn that sneaker money by
selling sneakers. Yeah, you know, I get that performance as
part of it. But you know she just has to
keep being relevant and sell a bunch of sneakers for Nike,
and then she's going to be all set.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do we do that when we go to the movie theater,
da yell at the actor up there. If you know
Tom Cruise is going to make a hundred million dollars
off this movie. Like with athletes, though I can't believe
there's and they're paying you all that money, Okay, but
they still have to go out and perform in front
of us. They do have to earn it, at least
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respect from us. We don't hand that to them just
because we hand you a big check there. If anything,
the target on your back is bigger. What do we
talk about with Jalen Brown he's getting three hundred million dollars.
Oh is he worked? Hey can you win in the finals?
Jason Tatum the amount of money that he makes. I mean,
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we do that, we attach it to that, but I
think sometimes it's dangerous to do that because it's more.
I remember I said, if you're going to factor in money,
big Poppy deserved the MVP the year that a Rod
won it because Big Poppy made five million dollars a
year and I think a Rod made like twenty five
million dollars. So I said value, Like, that's financial value there,
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Like do we factor that in Big Poppy what he
did for his team only five million, a Rod was
twenty five million. So there's different ways to gauge how
valuable somebody is or the expectation level. But yes, money
does cloud all of this where we don't give you
the opportunity to have an adjustment period. We'll talk to
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Chris Haynes, the great NBA reporter. He'll join us coming up.
What exactly is Rich Paul trying to do with Ronnie James.
We'll have him try to help us understand that. Take
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Speaker 2 (18:11):
See which update the poll results. Then we'll bring in
our buddy, Chris Haynes.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
How many more games do you think the Minnesota Timberwolves
will win this series? Okay, zero, one, two, or three?
Right now, about forty percent of the audience have one,
which is a pretty easy answer. Thirty thirty four percent
have zero three games thirteen percent.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's pretty good. That's pretty optimistic. Chris Haynes, Senior NBA
insider for TMT Bleacher Report. Part of the Western Conference Finals,
all cast on True TV. You got Vince Carter and
Adam Lefko got a few Beaumani Jones is on there
and also he has a basketball podcast with Mark Stein
hashtag This League Uncut. Always good to see you. Chris
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Hope or false Hope. After last night's win by the Timberwolves.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Well, DP, I think you have to go off of history,
and history will tell us no team has come back
from a O three deficit. So with that being said,
I have to say, is Falsehope?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay? What changed last night in your opinion? And does
that continue to change in game? You know the next
game here in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well, there were a couple of things that changed, but
number one was Karl Anthony Towns, you know, showed up
on the offensive end, played efficiently, and I think if
you look at his game and how he operated in
that game, he didn't shoot his first three till later
in the game. He was attacking and getting downhill, getting
to the paint and finishing. Now he was in foul trouble,
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but offensively he was very effective and efficient and that
helped Anthony Edwards, who the last couple of games is
trying to trying to been exerting his energy and so
in his offensive prowess. But he had a sidekick the
other night, and so I think that's what helped. Now
us is can Cat continue to do that because this
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series is just not it's just hadn't been a good
series for him.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
US far a topic of conversation on the most dynamic,
best scoring backcourt in history. Do you buy into the
Kyrie Luca that's the best scoring backcourt in NBA history?
Speaker 7 (20:22):
You always do this DP the best scoring backcourt duo.
I will say.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
That, you know, off the top of my head, they're
probably the most talented offensive scoring duo.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You know, we heard what Draymond said about about his
guys talking about Stephan Clay, But I would say skill wise,
Luca and Kyrie pound for pound or better offensively, Look,
I would like to hold off and wait until at
least they get a championship, they get a champion ship,
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then we can talk. You know, we had a there
was a somebody gave us a question on our cast
last night asking if this win, if the if the
Dallas Mavericks won last night, if that was see men
Kyrie's legacy. I'm like seeming this legacy and what we
talked this the conference finals, like what can we stop?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Can we hold off police. Can we get to the
very end?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Now, if you get a championship, we can talk talk
like Luca, he's arguably arguably the best player in the game,
but if he gets a championship, I'll stamp that. You know,
winning the championship is always favored the best player in
that series. I remember when Dwayne Wade won his championships
and there were arguments and if he was the best
player and you some would say yes, some say no.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
But he won a championship. You couldn't deny that.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
So I like to get to the end of the
road before we start talking this stuff deep.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I've been talking patients this morning with our expectation level,
whether it's Caitlin Clark or Brownie James. Have perspective here
and forty years of watching young players come in and
they get chewed up. Sometimes sometimes we give them a
little bit more rope. Not anymore. We want immediate gratification,
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whether it's a coach in Phoenix or la. Hey, you
could be one and done or two years and done.
Are star athletes, We want them that you're getting paid.
We want to see you play. You better be playing
at a high level. When did it change that we
didn't allow almost a grace period to allow these athletes
to kind of get their legs.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I think social media has played a part in that,
where everybody has a voice, so there's more takes, there's
more commentary, everybody feels like they have to say something.
You know, Look, look, dep I think what it is
is that you know, this generation today, they're in the
microwave ags. You know, they want to pop a meal
in the microwave and they want and if it's heating
for longer than a minute, they don't want it. They
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do their attention span is lost. But you know, whether
it's up and there's something great about putting the mill
in a crock pop or putting that bad boy in
the oven for eight hours allowed it to simmer. Then
when it comes out that meat is just falling off
the bone. Or if you like the barbecue like me,
put in the smoker, putting that smoker for eight, ten,
twelve hours.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Take let it take your time. You wrap it up,
wrap it up.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
You put your you know, if you got some ribs
or whatever, you put.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Your your honey down there on the meat.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You put your your brown, your brown sugar, and you
just wrap it up and foil put it back in
that bad boy another four or five hours, and then
it comes off.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
As man, you're too young to have this kind of perspective.
Let's guess how old Chris Haynes is. Okay, tod, I'm
gonna go with you.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
Chris Haynes is thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, I was going thirty eight seating think you guys
are being rude. He's thirty six, all right, Marvin.
Speaker 11 (23:55):
That hairline is beautiful, but you know he og so
I'm gonna say forty two. He was like he was
like two years ahead of me in high school.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
His buck O'Neil would say, good black, don't crack, Yeah, sure, don't.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Okay, all right, Paulie.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
This is really tough.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
His shoe game forty years old, even all right.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Forty years old, even shoe game. You know, I always
keep coming.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
He always got him close by. All Right, here we go.
Chris Haynes, bleacher ords, C and t is.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
I believe Marlon got it forty two?
Speaker 11 (24:29):
Wowme on now all.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Right, and he still got game too.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
I'll be forty three to endo August August thirty first.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
All right, help me understand what's going on? With Rich
Paul with did he slip up and say Lebron's a
free agent or was that premeditated? And it's and how
is he orchest He's almost trying to orchestrate where Bronni's
going to go, as if they have a choice where
he's going to go. It's not like you're a high
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school athlete picking your college. But man, and I get
the feeling that Rich Paul is at least presenting this
to other teams that we're going to dictate where he's
going to go, and if you don't abide by us,
we don't want And I don't know what those I
don't know what he could do if a team drafts Brownnie,
what are you going to do? Can't go back to college?
So what do you think what's Rich Paul's game here?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Well? I think first I'm gonna ask a couple, you know, questions,
a couple of ways DPS. So first of all, all
I think what he wants is Brianni to be drafted first.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
And foremost, you know, when you get drafted, it's not DP.
Back in the day.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
You know, I wasn't Covenant League back in the day,
but you know, in the nineties, I remember, remember when
second round picks DP. Remember most second round picks didn't
make the team. They didn't get guaranteed contracts back then.
That it's changed over the last ten years. Second round
picks are getting three four year guaranteed deals. You know,
they're getting commitment, they're getting time and resources invested into them.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
So Rich Paul's.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Statement to me about him not him not he's not
going to allow Brinnie James to sign a two way contract,
and people took that ass off he gonna try to
keep Briannie from going to the G League.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
No, it's not that, it's.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
That he would rather Brinnie get drafted, which means a
team is showing a commitment and he could get three
four years guaranteed money under his belt. And also about
the dictating, I think, you know, I think basically if
there is any dictating, I think the only dictating is
as of right now, only power he has in dictating
is trying to tell teams in the form of the
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league that two ways would not be considered. So if
you're really thinking about if you're really thinking about having
the chance of getting Briannie is going to take one
of your draft picks, I think that's what he was
trying to get to the masses.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, but what if a team drafts human says, hey,
we're going to send you down to the G League.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Which that's fine, No, that's fine drafting. He's still getting
a three year minimum guaranteed. Yeah, And that's the investment.
That's the commitment. You know, when you get a two way,
you know, that's a year deal. Then you know, you
play fifty you play forty something games in the NBA,
forty something games in the G League. If things work out,
you know, they can move on after a year, you know.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
So that's the difference between a two way deal and.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Then getting drafted, where that's actually a commitment that a
team is putting into you and they're going to give
you a three year, four year guaranteed deal. And so
that's where Rich Paul is trying. That's the direction Rich
Paul is trying to steer his.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Climbing Lebron going to re sign with the Lakers DP.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
I have a hard time believing he's going to go
anywhere else and fatigue. I'm sorry to answer your question
about the slip up. It wasn't a slip up. I
don't know what I will say is a lot of
players and agents feel like if their client has a
player option, they view it as being a free agent
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because they have that option to pick it up or not.
But you're technically not a free agent until you decline
that player option. So I don't know if people saw
the atcame I immediately as soon as Rich Paul say,
you know, Blonde's a free.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Agent, I had to look.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
So if you saw, if you look at the acast,
look at the replay, he says, Lebron is free agent.
So I look down, because you know, this is my job,
it's my job to stay up on top of this.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I look down and start googling.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I'm like, when did Lebron announce he was declined the
player option?
Speaker 7 (28:19):
And I couldn't find it nowhere.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
So then I'm waiting, and I got my head back
up and I waited to Rich Paul finished, and then I,
you know when interjecting, like, hold on, you mean he's
declined that player option, and he was like, Chris, you
know I'm not going to negotiate there.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
We'll get to that down the road.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Are the Lakers waiting to announce their head coach until
the finals are over because that coach might be working
the finals.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, I would be very surprised if their next heads
coaches anybody but JJ Reddick.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
Everything that I'm hearing is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Ad From what I know, he's doing some background calling
some candidates, some assistant coaching candidate this who might be
able to join his staff or might not be able
to join his staff, And so yeah, it's.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I'm pretty I'm pretty positive it'll be JJ.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
So you have the most experienced NBA player in history
coached by the least experienced head coach in the NBA.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, what we've seen coaches getting those type of opportunities.
Steve Nash got a great opportunity as his first head
coaching gig. Jason Kidd did the same thing, Derek Fisher.
You know, we're starting to see a trend. Steve Kerr. Yeah,
Steve Kerr. I mean you were looking at you see
what Steve Kerr turned out to be. Look at Jason Kidd.
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He's a win away from leading this team to the
NBA Finals. So it has some success. But that's a
tough job to take. It's just tough job to take.
I mean, it's Lebron James I understand JJ and Lebron
get along. Well, they have a podcast. That's just a
tough job to accept. You know, under Rod Polinka tenure,
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he is fired. Let me see Luke Walton fire, Frank Vogel,
He's fired Darvin Ham So he's safe.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
So if anybody's going to get some blame, it's going
to be the head coach. That's why.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
And there's high expectations with that team, as there should
be anytime you have a team of Lebron James.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
On top of that being the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Celtics waiting for the winner of this series. But let's
say the Celtics win the title. How will history treat
this year's Boston Celtics.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
I'm thinking a treat on favorably. I mean, they had
a phenomenal season.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
They were the most dominant team for the entire eighty
two game season. You know, I know we like to
talk about the path that the team's a team takes,
but all you can do is play against the opponent
that's right across from you.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
So I don't think we're going to diminish them now.
You know, when you.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Start having debates about who's the best teams I don't
know that this bost Celtics team will be up there,
but I will say this, I definitely will like to
see the Dallas and Average in the Boston Selfish meet
in the finals. I just think of they have some
interesting subplots going on, make it more interesting, and maybe
that can boost her up. If the Celtics were to
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win the title, maybe that can boost her up. Just
how relevant and dominant this team as being. If we
if we can have a good a good series first
and foremost and then have some drama go with it.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I can't help but imagine if Boston doesn't win
the title.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
That's a problem.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
The problem down list we I've covered the Celtics the
last four years since they've been on their championship run,
and you know, they can disappoint you. You know, the
moment you think they've got it all figured it figured out,
the moment you think they got those turnovers out of
the way, the turnovers come back, those those shot the
shot selection, you know, gets horrible again. So they have
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a tendency to I don't know what, I don't want
to say play down, but they have a tendency to
not play to the level expectations. So if they were
to lose like this would be a big blimish on
the Celtics in general. I'm talking about just this whole team,
the whole core cast. They have to get it done.
It's their championship to lose.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us as always, Chris.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Hey, I appreciate all those that said mid thirties, late thirties.
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That's Chris Haynes, senior NBA insider for TNT Bleacher Report
and part of the Western Conference Finals alt cast airing
on True TV. I got Vince Carter there, Adam Lefco,
Beaumani Jones on there. All right, we'll take a break.
We'll get to more phone calls coming up back after this.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
The Negro League statistics will be officially incorporated into Baseball's
History Oracle Records. The move opens the door for twenty
three hundred Negro League players to have their accomplish accomplishments
entered into the official database. The person who started this
and it's his job for the last four years to
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try to get the information box scores from Negro League games.
He will join his coming up at the top of
the hour, but Baseball confirmed that the Negro League statistics
will officially become part of Baseball's historical record. And this
is going to change some people's opinions of certain players
because you're going to see the numbers that they put up.
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Like Josh Gibson, considered one of the best catchers in
baseball history, and he will now lead Baseball in multiple
batting categories. His career batting average, his slugging percentage, his
ops they will be better than those of Tycobb and
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Babe Ruth. So he's going to have some of the
highest season statistically in baseball history. So we'll talk to
the researcher, the man who's made it his mission to
find as many box scores as possible, and he's been
on a quest here for quite a few years. So
jonas top of the hour.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Yes, Pauli, there is so much to this story about
different other leagues that were in business for a year
or two and their stats are incorporated. But some other
players like Willie Mays after this gained ten career hits.
He got the ten hits he got with the nineteen
forty eight Birmingham Black Bearings. Jackie Robinson was credited with
another forty nine hits in his career. Well Statchel Page
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at A he gained twenty eight wins yesterday. It's pretty
nice day.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Twenty wins in a single day. Yeah, not around to
enjoy it, but yeah wow. Let me see we'll get
two more funkals? Can I get theme music? Marvin?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Who Who's stats would you want? Tell me? Tell me?
Tell me who stands? Whose stats? Who'd you want?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Okay? These two players their first four hundred games played.
Through their first four hundred games that they played in
the NBA, one averaged twenty seven. One averaged almost twenty nine.
One averaged seven rebounds six and a half assists, the
other one eight point seven rebounds in eight point three assists.
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One in his first four hundred games won fifty five
percent of his games, the other player won fifty six,
almost fifty seven percent of his games. Let's see anything
else in here? Field goal percentage. Player one he made
forty six percent of his shots through his first four
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hundred games, and player two made forty seven percent of
his shots. Who stats do you want, Paul, They're very close.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
Player two seems to tick better and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yes, that player is Luka Doncic. Player one is Lebron James.
Come on, come on? Whoa stall of a day stant
of to day, stata day stant.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Out to day.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
This is the start of the day. Three point shots
will factor in with Luca scoring just a little bit
more than Lebron because as far as three points made
three pointers made per game, Luca averages three Lebron one
point three. Pretty interesting though, uh, that they're that close
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with Lebron and Luca. Yes, Ton, so it.
Speaker 10 (36:52):
Should have been the Luca MJ debate all along, not Lebron.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
We've all been wrong all this time.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Come on, Todd, Luca's got to win a couple of
titles there. Those are pretty pretty, you know, big numbers
to be able to do that. Plus, when people see
Luca in person, it's rare when you go, I get it,
like you you see him. It's also it's like the
first time I saw Jill Montana in person, I go,
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you're there's no way, how's that guy killing it? He's
you know, six ' two one eighty. You look at Luca,
and you're like, that guy's a great basketball player. How
does he move? How does he get a shot? Like
you don't come away and going, man, have you seen him?
He looks like the David in the statue, Like he
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just is so big, he is wide.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
It is fairly shocking to watch him play sometimes, Like
there are moments last night that he would like, bring
the ball up the court.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Do that sort of slow easing his way into the key.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Then a bunch of like mini dribbles off the ground
and kick it around to somebody to hit.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
A three or so You're like, what the hell is this?
How is this working?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
There?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
They're just players in all sports where you go, I
don't know how, but it's all technique. But you see
him and it's not like you go, now, that's an
athlete right there. He looks like I, you know, somebody
I was in a fraternity with, you know, Like it's
like all the guys like, hey, how you feeling. I'm
not very good today. I'm gonna go out and get
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a treble double. He's not David, He's just Dave. Yeah. Oh,
but you're watching him and you're just going, how oh,
I don't get it. Let me see, let me see
what do we have here? Uh? Brock and Missouri high Brock,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
Hey? Uh, I just want to say I heard you
ask about an ouptioneer and play by play? Yeah, I
am an and.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Brock.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Mightn't you pay attention to what's going on there at
your house?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Thank you? Brock? Maybe calling with a better time got
a fire going on telling me about being an auctioneer?
Is middle aged? Still? Like thirty five or forty? Like
we had Chris Hanes on he's forty two? Like, what
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is middle age? Now?
Speaker 7 (39:30):
Forty?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Is it is? It is fifty? Middle aged? People are
living longer.
Speaker 10 (39:36):
Yeah, but a fifties middle aged and we're saying the
average president could live.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
To one hundred.
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Okay, it's weird about what calling something middle aged?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Okay, well, what is middle aged?
Speaker 9 (39:45):
Is middle aged more of a concept than a number
where you're you have kids, you're established in life, you're
no longer partying, et cetera, et cetera. That seems like
middle aged? Okay, Like it's more of a concept. Like
does Marvin look like middle aged?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
Guy?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
What is he?
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Forty?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Thirty nine?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Thirty nine?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I'm forty now forty all that train mister birthday.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Happy birthday, because after middle aged is old age?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Hello? Is that? Is that what comes to me old age?
I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
It feels like middle age has a pretty wide birth,
pretty wide window.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
I think middle aged is a feeling. I don't think
it's a number state of mind.
Speaker 9 (40:25):
Yes, what about fifty five to sixty nine? You're aging,
but you're not old.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh I'm old. I'm aging, But I wouldn't say you're
an old guy.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
You you would see your.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Age getting old. Right, I'm not old. You have entered
the portal?
Speaker 10 (40:41):
Yes, yes, I think it may tie into like the
midlife crisis, like what Paulie was saying. It's more of
a concept when you start having an urge that you
need some kind of convertible and you don't feel as
a young and attractive anymore, and you start buying things
or needing things to prove that.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
You're anybody feeling that? Do women have a middle Why
is it a guy as a midlife crisis? Do women?
You never hear about that. So he's like, oh, you've
seen Tommy over there, he got his corvette. Yeah, midlife crisis.
Speaker 11 (41:11):
Yes, are Cougars going through midlife crisis, you get a
younger guy.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Oh is that their version?
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I guess, let's hope.
Speaker 7 (41:18):
So that's a fair aenalgy.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, we're up against the commercial break
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