September 3, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan lays out the details of the allegations against Los Angeles Clippers owner Steve Ballmer for paying Kawhi Leonard illegally to circumvent the NBA salary cap. Plus, Johnny Manziel admits he’s still holding a grudge against the Cleveland Browns. And Good Morning Football co-host Kyle Brandt stops by to talk about his new show where he takes a deep dive into classic football games.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan It's Dan
Patrick Show. I guess we were a buzzkill in the
first hour because we talked about the Browns and Saints
not being good. You want false hope, right, if you're
fans of these teams and it's September three, you want
false hope. You don't want me saying, hey, the worst
odds to win the Super Bowl are the Saints or
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the first coach who odds on to be fired as
Kevin Stefanski the Brams. You don't want to hear that.
I understand that my job is to just give you
what I believe is the truth. I'm not a hot
take guy. I'm not going out of my way to
disparage your team. I'm just telling you what I see
or what I hear. And if Vegas says the Saints
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aren't going to be good, it's not me saying it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's Vegas saying it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But I'm just the messenger, and apparently some people want
to shoot the messenger from the first How can you
say that, I'm just telling you what Vegas is saying,
and Vegas doesn't you know, they don't have an opinion
from the standpoint of playing favorites. They just give you.
They're trying to make money. That's that's their job, and
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that's why they had these odds that this coach could
get fired or this team or these teams have no
chance of making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yes, Pauline, but fans of below average teams striving to
work on Wednesday the third would much rather have a
little fake hope, a little belief.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That, hey, you know what if we could get the
line together.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, you know, if Spencer Ratler, you know, plays the
way we think he can.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Okay.
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Good morning.
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The Dallas Cowboys are now eight and a half point
underdogs against the Philadelphia Eagles. The only other point spread
that's similar is Denver against Carolina's a right, Paul, It's
Denver by eight and a half against the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I believe Titans against them?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, Titans, Titans against them?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, cam Ward's debut and the Denver Broncos playoff team
a year ago?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Eight seven seven to three. DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick
dot com, Twitter handle at DP show, Michael Irvin the
playmaker in an hour from now, Kyle Brant, popular co
host a Good Morning Football will stop by and are
the Clippers in trouble? Pablo Torre is investigating the Clippers.
(02:54):
Did Steve Balmer have I guess a company that he started,
but it wasn't a real company, but they were using
money in that company to pay Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I think I have the parameters correct. Does that sound right?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Who was a Was it a tree service company?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's kind of like those no show jobs they talked
about with college sports. According to Pablo Tory, there was
a fraudulent tree planting company funded with fifty million dollars
of Steve Balmer, the Clippers owner's money, and Kawhi Leonard
had an endorsement deal with this company, a no show
endorsement deal that allegedly paid him twenty eight million dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Which would circumvent the salary kit.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Allegedly, Pablo Torre will join us coming up next hour.
But if Pablo Torre is taking a deep dive, as
we found out in the last six months, look out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We did reach out to the Clippers and Steve Balmer,
we did reach out to the NBA. No word back justice,
thank you, Todd, But we did reach out to all
sides involved in this. But I thought that Kawhi Leonard
had a no show job that was called being a clipper.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, good joke.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Too easy, But you're gonna pay him more money, and
you can do so with the Tree Service Company. And
apparently it was a no show job.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Hey, mom and dad, I got a job with the
city planning trees all summer. What'd you make son? Twenty
eight million dollars?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So we'll talk to Pablo tore about this because if
if he's got enough information, I think he talked to
six or seven former employees of the Tree Service Company.
Un how much did they get paid for their no
show job? They did all the work, Kawhi go buy
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and go Hey guys, yeah, Seaton, So.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Does that mean Kawhi was really getting paid like not
fifty million, but like close to.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Eight It certainly sounds like there was an excess of
seventy million dollars there and off the books.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Seventy million.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
God, yes, Paulie, there is a bit of precedent for
this type of situation. Not to go too far down
the road, but if you remember a generation ago, the
Minnesota Timberwolves and Joe Smith had a series of contracts
that circumvented the salary cap and they lost five straight
first round draft picks.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, and other stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, that was my first thought is now that's that
was a different commissioner. Adam Silver is a hey, come on,
let's play nice in the sandbox commissioner David Stern, who
it would be, you know, they'd be held a pick.
Now doesn't mean Adam Silver is not going to come
down on the Clippers if this is true, But they're
going to lose. They're gonna lose first round draft picks,
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and they'll probably be fined a substantial amount of money.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But this is early in the investigation.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Let's you know, we want to be fair to all
sides here, but Pablo Torre got to the point where
he made this public, and you make it public when
you feel like you Now the Clippers didn't say, hey,
we're going to sue you.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
They denied. You know that this was true.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
But we'll talk to Pablo Torre about how much information
you have and at what point do you decide to
go public with this that you're accusing Steve Baumer circumventing
the salary cap for Kawhi Leonard amazing. Kawhi Leonard and
Darrell Revs and Kirk Cousins great business guys, great businessmen.
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Kawhi is a Hall of Famer, KIRKT. Cousins is not.
Durell revas is. But when it comes to financial you know,
the the financial acumen that they have or their representatives,
they are first team Hall of Famers, first team financial
Hall of Famers.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
And here's Kawhi who's made a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And he's he's gonna be one of those guys will
look back and say, yeah, hall of Famer, but man,
he should have been a whole lot better.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And it goes back to the Spurs. Remember when he
went to New York.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Didn't he get a second opinion, had the fallout with Popovich,
and then all of a sudden, you know, this thigh injury,
and then he's got a cousin who's involved in this,
and next thing, you know, he's playing for the Raptors,
and just wild, wild story with Kawhi Leonard who comes
in as a defensive guy, you know, goes to the Spurs,
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helps lead them to an NBA championship, good feel good story,
and then all of a sudden, it's like he's not
gonna play, he's gonna get a second opinion, he's gonna
get traded.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He's gonna leave, He's going to the Clippers.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Yes, Marvin, Luckily he's playing for the Clippers, because if
he's playing for the Lakers, this would have been front
page now. No, I think it's because of Kawhi and
the Clippers as a combination of he's a low key
guy and it's a low key franchise.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
No knock to the Clippers. But luckily it's not the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But we'll talk to Pablo Tory next hour about this.
Johnny Manziel, Yeah, Johnny Manziel was trending yesterday because Johnny
Manziel was on the Nightcap podcast and the former Cleveland
brown quarterback had this to say about the Browns.
Speaker 10 (08:21):
I sit here today and I go back and forth
with man, am I gonna let Cleveland off the hook
and just like let it go? Or Am I gonna
sit here with the hate and animosity in my heart
for the rest of my life? And I finally sit
here today, I'm like good. I think I'm gonna be
pissed at I'm and hate him forever. So it is
what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Man, no love for the Browns.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
I'm rooving for oh with sixteen seasons every season.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, they did draft you in the first round. Remember
when he sent a message draft me, sent that to
the owner draft me. I believe they did. You just
didn't live up to what you were supposed to. And
you're blaming the Cleveland Browns for Okay, maybe organizationally not
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very good?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Is it mismanagement?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I saw a quote that was attached to Johnny that
was basically saying, Hey, you should have done more research
on how to you know, position me to succeed. If
they did more research on you, they wouldn't have drafted you.
But to blame the Cleveland Browns. I mean, this keeps
you in the news, but it is time to move on.
(09:39):
It is it is time to move on because you
can blame the Browns for being the Browns, but you
should have been able to take care of yourself and
you didn't. You famously did not. And you know, we've
had former teammates on this show who have talked about
how you didn't care. Joe Thomas talked about that All
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of Famer that you didn't put in the time, that
being a celebrity was more important to you. You got
to take it. You're not taking accountability. You didn't take accountability,
then you're not taking it. Now take accountability. Both sides
made the mistakes.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, Paulie, do you think of a guy like Manziell
where was taken in round four and didn't get that
big rookie deal. He may have worked harder to be
a starter, to be a player in the NFL fil
the rules or was it destined for disaster.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't know if he would have a chip on
his shoulder to try to prove everybody wrong. Maybe, but
if you go back to college, I mean, he got
away with a lot on and off the field, and
while we loved watching him, he gave us one of
the greatest seasons in college football history. You know, when
you're rushing for what fifteen hundred yards, you're you're running
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for touchdowns, you're throwing for touchdowns, you're beating Alabama OUTABMA.
It just you got to put in the time at
that position, and he didn't. He wanted to be a celebrity,
and at that position, you can become a celebrity, but
you got to become really good at what you do first,
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because it doesn't go you know, in the inverse order
there reverse order. Hey, I'm a celebrity. Now I'm going
to try to be a good quarterback. Be a good quarterback.
Then it you know, it might evolve into something bigger.
But that's unfortunate because move on, figure out what you're
doing with your life and apply. You just hate holding
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a grudge and if you're still blaming others, I mean,
this is gone.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And I even.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Said at the time that that you know, the football
world moves on so quickly, and they'll move on so
quickly from him, and he's not the only one, but
he was.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
The current one.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And I said, it'll be over and you know, pop'll
move on and then you'll be that curiosity of man.
He was really good when he was at A and M,
but you know in the pros he wasn't good. Didn't
put in the time. And you can't cheat people at
that position. Of all the positions, you can't cheat him
because it'll show.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And it did. Yeah, Pauling, he played.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Two years in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Johnny Manziel He had six starts. His second year in
the league. He was two and four and his quarterback
rating was seventy nine point four. He threw for seven
touchdowns and five picks. Not horrendous. He was the thirty
first ranked quarterback in quarterback rating that year. Below him,
worse than him was Colin Kaepernick, Andrew Luck, Nick Foles,
and Peyton Manning. They all in limited duty because they
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all played less than fifteen games, had worst quarterback ratings
that year. He'd win a bet on that one.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, it's unfortunate because I think we wanted that excitement,
hope for that excitement, and he got to the league
and you just he didn't put in the time. But
to sit there and continue to blame the Browns, good
luck with that. What's that going to get you in
life now. The Browns. Yeah, the Browns.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yes, to be fair, the Browns have a just a
littered history of running through players that they drafted very well.
So he he's not wrong in saying that the Browns
are terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But do you think if he had gone someplace else
that somehow this would have had a better ending, because
I I only possible, Well, it is possible, but knowing
his track record, I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Yeah, but I mean knowing their track record too.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Though he asked them to draft him on draft night,
he asked them to draft him. Yeah, so that's not.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Usually the way it works though. You don't just get
to text somebody be like hey draft me. They're like okay,
oh I know. But that'll tell you about both sides.
He wanted to play for them, and you know they
do not have a good front office or didn't have
a good front office, and they drafted him. Yes, yeah,
I mean I think he wanted to get drafted. You know,
he wanted to play, but he this is Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, so why would you go to a place that
is a terrible place to go and want to go
to a place that's a terrible place to go and
in Epton developing quarterbacks unless he had no idea how
bad it was. But still he said draft me. He
didn't send that to anybody else. He sent a text
that said draft me.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yeah, Like, did you ever go work somewhere and you
really wanted to work there and then it end up
being a horrible place and you're like, wow, I had
no idea on the outside that that's what this was
like at.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
But I have to take ownership. He's not taking any ownership.
I think he is taking ownership. I'm just I think
he's just saying he doesn't like them.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, but he's blaming them for who he is now
or what he is now, instead of saying we're both culpable,
or I never should gone there, or you know what.
That mistakes on me because it's a terrible match for me.
Like if you say that, then people, I think would
look at it and go, yeah, you're probably right. He's
just holding a grudge against Cleveland. You want them to
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lose every game, But got to have accountability at some point,
and I don't think he does. Let me see David
in Ohio, Hi, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (15:24):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Speaking of Las Vegas odds. I think if Mark Davis
goes and gets his haircut other than great clips or
his mom, I think they might win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Thank you? All right.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
David's been on fire recently, he roasting Belichick, roasting the Raiders.
I like the Raiders. I do for some reason. Tom
Brady's a winner. He's gonna get him going. Got their quarterback, they're.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Running back, They got their tight end, got Max Crosby
ready to go.
Speaker 9 (15:55):
Yes, Marvin, I feel a little better if Tom Brady
was the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh well, yeah, he's still the best quarterback in the organization.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Oh now, still he is, I know he is.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I think Gino Smith would admit that, yes, ty.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Raiders would be better off if they're in the afty
South or to a lesser extent, the FC East, and
that the vision they just how are they not the
fourth best team right now?
Speaker 9 (16:17):
Even with but you just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Pie to the face. There we go, Raiders better record
than the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We'll do that, Okay, all right, okay, I.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Have to do that. What kind of fan would say
not that I have? With the Raiders finishing gonna last?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All right, I know, let's take a break. Here we'll
come up with the pole question for hour two. Kyle
Brandt on loan from NFL Network. Good Morning Football will
stop by right after this Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (17:25):
More phone calls coming up. Michael Irvin, the Playmaker, top
of next hour, Pablo Torre, He's got an expose on
the Clippers and Steve Balmer where they paying Kawhi Leonard
off the books for a no show job to circumvent
this salary cap Dunk Dum. Kyle Brandt, popular co host
(17:47):
Good Morning Football, got a new show. The debuts today,
NFL Classic Sits upon further review. You'll find it at
the nine Eastern on Vice TV, Michael Irvin and Emmett
Smith breaking down the Cowboys nineteen ninety five NFC Championship game.
You can also see Kyle, Good Morning Football, Good to
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see you again.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
How'd you come about deciding to do this?
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Normally, Dan, I would say I collaborated with my friends
and put something together. I didn't. They came to me
and they said, here's an idea for a show. You
want to do it. I felt like you hear these
actors say. I finally got to stop auditioning. I just
got an offer. This was my first offer. It sounded perfect.
I said yes, I'll take it, and ten minutes later,
(18:33):
I'm sitting there with Irvan and walked to the ninety
five title game. That's the origin story.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I did NBA's Greatest Games years and years ago at
NBA TV, and we'd have Bill Walton come in and
he would sit there and watch a game with you.
Isaiah Thomas came in and it's just fun because Isaiah
started crying during you know, looking back on the game,
Walton just couldn't stop talking. You know, you get these
(18:59):
guys that they look back and all of a sudden
they open up the scrap book and it's the emotion
that hits them that you might not be ready for
because to you, it was a game you're watching. To them,
it was the game they were playing in.
Speaker 11 (19:13):
And I think that's insightful. And what you get is
when you're not just watching highlights, like I've seen Joe
Montana talk about the catch a thousand times and he
tells the story from start to finish. When you actually
watch the game with the ebbs and flows and the
bad plays, well found out when I ended up happening Dan,
that was so funny. It was I was watching the
Titans Rams Super Bowl and the Titans are marching down
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the field and it's Steve McNair and I'm with Cedric
the entertainer from Saint Louis and Kurt Warner, and they
were both nervous that the Rams were gonna lose. They
were on the edge of their seat and you start
to watch it, even though you know, you say, Kevin
Dyson's gonna score. I know it. They have too much momentum,
and you can watch them start to sweat all over again.
So it's funny and it's candid, but in multiple episodes
(19:57):
I saw actual fear from guys knowing full well they
win and still thinking they would lose. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
What's the one episode though, that you got something that
you didn't realize.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
There's a lot of them. I would actually stick with
this episode. This This is the again the Titans ninety
nine Rams versus the Titans. This is the coolest thing
about this, Dan, because we've looked at this game for
a quarter century and Mike Jones makes the tackle on
the one yard line and the Rams win. But here's
the what if. The question is the Titans were down seven,
if they score that touchdown, does Jeff Fisher go for
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two to win it right there? And Fisher's gone back
and forth over the years. I would have I wouldn't
have Eddie, George is Sam. We would have got it.
Everybody on the Rams defense is saying they would have
got it. We were out of gas. We've been battling
all game. We could have gotten, as fans, a win
the Super Bowl two point conversion play, which we've never
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gotten before. And again you talked to Kurt about that,
he's helpless. He's standing on the sideline behind Dick Vermial,
who's ready to celebrate the tackle. The one yard line
could have given us the greatest finish ever in a
two point conversion. We'll still never know if they would
have gone for it.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I was fortunate when the Steelers played Arizona and we
thought Arizona's going to win the Super Bowl. Now I'm
handing out the trophy. So I'm on the sidelines and
I'm standing next to Steve Young. So Steve is doing
analysis on Ben's final drive. So we're walking down the
sidelines and he's now he's part quarterback but part fan,
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and he would be He said, you don't understand, like
this is incredible. He was so excited, and it's one
of the greatest moments I've ever had in this in
my career because I'm watching with a Hall of Famer,
We're watching Ben lead this drive that's going to win
a Super Bowl, and those are that's why you sign
up for this, because we are fans and we want
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to enjoy. You know, it's still our job to be,
you know, a host, analytical, but that's where you go Cowley,
this is awesome, awes And that was years ago.
Speaker 11 (22:03):
They watched that game with Steve Young, and I can
tell you remember it like it was yesterday. When when
you really when you're talking to the athletes, and it's
not over zoom, it's not on the phone, it's when
they're watching themselves work. So many different emotions come out, like,
for example, the Cowboys are really hot right now. In media,
I was sitting and I'm watching the ninety five title game.
This is Cowboys versus Packers. It's Akman versus FIV, and
(22:25):
I'm with Emmett and Irvin. It's the episode that we
start the show with. We talked for over an hour,
and I don't think they said the name Barry Switzer
one time.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Between them, they.
Speaker 11 (22:35):
Said Jimmy Johnson Dan probably thirty times. My takeaway was
Jimmy Johnson was the coach of that team. He had
been removed for years. And Barry Switzer, God bless him.
These guys did not want to say the word. They
avoided the word even when I asked about it. I
just think Jimmy was still the head coach, and the
emotions came out for those.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Two talking to Kyle Brant NFL Network, Good Morning Football,
NFL Classics upon further review at nine Eastern on Vice TV,
and Michael Irvan Emmett Smith with the first episode.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Fans can't get to you when.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You're hosting Good Morning Football, like they can call into
the show. Where they can you know, they can text
or tweet the show. But you know, I'm already getting
catching strays because I was critical of the Browns and Saints,
you know, just the odds of them making the playoffs
or going to the super Bowl. How do fans get
to you to let you know they don't like what
(23:29):
you said?
Speaker 11 (23:30):
Oh well, you're putting this one right in the wheelhouse.
We just made playoff picks yesterday. Here's the ones that
I like them. I like the fan bases that you
picked their team for the playoffs. But it's only a
wildcard and not a Are you kidding me? I'm getting
screamed at by of all people, I'm getting screamed at
(23:50):
by Lions fans because they only won the wild card.
Is there a more nouveau reach thing than that? Somebody
drive in a yellow because they won the lottery, and
they're already complaining that they're only a wild card. The
Lions fans would have cut off a finger for a
wild card five years ago. And they hate me on
(24:10):
social media because I dare to give them not the
division championship. It's nuts.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I'm gonna make you program director for the NFL. You picked,
let's do it. You picked the super Bowl.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Okay. If i'm if I'm programmed director for human beings
and all of humanity, and in the time of AI
we need some of this, then that one's easy. Just
just give me Buffalo versus Detroit and someone can be happy.
All right, that's you get those fans together, it's hugging.
It's cats and dogs living together. Somebody wins. But if
I'm gonna be the NFL programmer, and I'm gonna try
(24:43):
to do it at the bottom line, and I'm gonna
spike ratings, Dan, can I also pick the halftime performer?
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Sure?
Speaker 11 (24:52):
I have the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl again,
Taylor's the halftime performer. And then in the NFC, we
can't do Philadelphia. It's Dallas. It's Dallas versus Kansas City,
and they have the story of the year has been
that Jerry Jones suckered us all and Micah wasn't when
Micah was cracked up to be and he's back and
he's against Taylor and she's doing Love Story and everybody's crying.
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It's Chiefs Cowboys in San Francisco, where the Cowboys have
a lot of history. That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I think there's a better chance that Taylor Swift does
halftime than the Cowboys get there.
Speaker 11 (25:27):
I think you're right. I think actually, at this point,
I think the Super Bowl halftime show is beneath Taylor Swift.
I think that she is way bigger than it. And
I may say that as an NFL employee. I think
she's bigger than it, and I think you're right. I
think it's still more likely that she does it and
goes a three hour set before the Cowboys do it.
I said lines fans, I'm trying to figure out, Dan,
(25:48):
why are you hearing from Saints and Browns fans? What
do they have to complain about?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
They don't want to be told. Do you want to
have false hope on September third? You don't want to
hear the voice saying yeah. Vegas said, you guys have
the best dodge for the number one pick in the draft,
or Vegas says that you guys have the longest dodge
to reach the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
They don't want to hear it. They know it's true,
they don't want to hear it.
Speaker 11 (26:12):
I think they should hear it. There's nothing wrong with that,
at least after a Week one. If you lose Week one,
then they'll be calling the show being like, when are
you going to start doing mock drafts. I can't believe that.
Saints and Browns, let's go.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
There are more teams you think can reach the super
Bowl or more teams who can't make the playoffs.
Speaker 11 (26:31):
I think there's a lot of teams that could reach
the super Bowl this year. You have the normal headliners
that you think of, of course this team, that team,
and then you have these teams that aren't in the
neon lights, like teams that are built for a super Bowl,
like Tampa Bay for example. Who have the coach, you
have the quarterback. I don't mind the Rams again, I
always look at the coaches. I don't mind the Chargers.
(26:53):
Like the only thing people can say against the Chargers
is they lost the linemen. It sucks, I know, he
got hurt. I just look at Jim Harbone and look
at the quarterback we're in this WEEKDND where there's this
there's this sweepstakes Kentucky Derby type thing here in sports
media where everyone gives their picks and everyone has to
be right, and everyone's trying to hack the system. I
have a few simple guidelines that I go by first
and foremost always always always pick the Steelers in the
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Bingo card. They're the free space. You get that one
for free. The rest are up to you. I always
pick the Rams because I believe Sean McVay is the
best coach in the league. And then just look at coaches.
Just pick veteran, proven coaches and the guys who have
been there before, and they'll get you home. So I
think there's a lot of teams that can make the
super Bowl this year because then you get those tasty
ones like a few years ago Joe Burrow and the
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Bengals in his second year, and then you're like, oh,
look at all the second year quarterbacks. You got them
across the board. One of those teams could make a run.
Because I think for quarterbacks now year two the year
is new year five. So All those guys are in
the freight too.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's almost like March Madness, where you always pick tom
Izzo in Michigan State because it's it's tom Izzo, or
you pick John Caliperi, Rick Patino. You're picking the coaches,
Jim Beaheim, You're picking the coaches who are always going
to be there. You went to the Steelers camp. Yeah,
how's morale great?
Speaker 11 (28:14):
It's good. I mean, I say this pretty candidly. It
was odd. I sat with Mike Tomlin as someone who
spent the entire offseason saying that he should be replaced,
and so I respected that he's still sat down. But
I've been the guy saying Mike Tomlin is at the
point that Andy Reid was with the Eagles. There's nothing
wrong with it. It's going to benefit both parties. The
part he'll land somewhere else. And then you show up
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to camp and I have to tell you, Dad, I've
never sat with him before. It's every single thing you
ever hope it was. There's gravitas, there's magnetism, there's insights.
He looks at you, he shakes your hand, heart and
everything he say you just kind of nod, even though
some of its cliches. And then I say to him,
all right, He's like, we got some veterans here. I
got to teach an old dog new tricks. And I said, well,
you have the oldest dog in the league. Your quarterback's
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forty one. He laughs. Rogers sits down, fantastic, positive vibe,
super happy. Gets married in the off season. I presented
him with that question because there was a lot of
I don't know, internet rumors and intrigued that Aaron Rodgers,
you just showed up and got married. You're a public
figure we've been following for years. I presented him with
(29:16):
information that I said, Aaron, I did the research. Players
in this generation who get married in the off season
go on to have an overwhelmingly successful next season Across
the board. It always happens. How is this affecting you
as a football player? And he goes into this deep
dive answer about how his life is different and his
support system is different and all because of her, and
all because of her. Meanwhile, the rumors online about what
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this could be are I'm playing at Mars and he
just locks in and says, I'm playing this season for us.
So he's unique, He's unusual, he's still my favorite player
to interview, and his vibe was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I give you credit that you came at it with
a different angle because that's thank you. That's the tough part,
and you know, being a great interviewer, it's about what
is my angle that's going to be different because you
want them to realize that you did your homework and
that you did give this great thought instead of saying,
hey he got married.
Speaker 11 (30:08):
Huh yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Not going to give you. You got to work. You know,
there's certain athletes that you just have to work. They'll
make it worth your while, but you got to work.
And Aaron's one of those guys that he's not going
to listen to foolishness. So give you a lot of
credit with that.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
I appreciate the compliment from you, and it's you're exactly right.
And I did the same thing last week with Josh Allen.
I got to ask him, you can appreciate this, Dan.
I got to sit with Josh Allen for about twelve
minutes and I have to somehow ask him. You never
can beat the Chiefs. Everyone's talking about it. It's really
the only topic we can talk about you with football.
Is you can't get over the hump your what is
(30:44):
the original way to do that? And I concocted this
thing that was just like, listen, your wife. In her industry,
they have the Oscar speech and you think about it
and you practice in the mirror and you do it
in the shower. Do you have the super Bowl speech?
Is that something you have? And he went and he went,
He said, I had it since I was a kid.
I know every word, I know the tone, I knew
all of that, and I could tell a palpable appreciation
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that I wasn't just like, how about these chiefs?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Huh?
Speaker 11 (31:10):
I guess you're patriots for manning? And he actually gave
a creative answer. So I was very proud.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The pressure on Josh Allen, now you won an MVP.
Local pressure, national pressure. Is there any big variation in
those two?
Speaker 11 (31:26):
Well, the buffalo pressure is just more as just buffalo
terror and fear and just how can we not get
one with this guy. I think the national pressure is
the same it's been for about three years. It's the
same identical pressure on Lamar Jackson, where every road leads
to that you're great, you did this. But the difference
is is that Josh has played much better in the
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playoffs than Lamar is. So Josh's narrative is they got
to get him help nationally. But I have to say,
I asked him point blank about you are looked at
as this new Peyton Manning. How do you deal with that?
Everything you do in the community, in the locker room,
you carry a burden with you, and the burden is
Josh has to bring home the big one. He said,
I don't think about it, and I'm like, yo, come on,
(32:10):
you think about it. He said, if it doesn't happen,
I'll be okay with that because I know I'm doing
everything I possibly can. This is a guy who is
twenty nine, he's three hundred million bucks. He just married
a movie star. He references her. I've been here Josh
Allen twenty five times. I have never heard him reference
God as much as he did, which I think is
a very good thing and shows he's onto new deals.
(32:31):
So he flat out said, I'm going all in. If
it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, so I don't worry
about it. It's his plan.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I find it interesting that you have baseball pitchers who
are really good in the regular season, yeah, and not
good in the postseason. You know, Greg Maddox wasn't great.
You know, Clayton Kershawn had his moments, but their Hall
of Fame pictures and you have quarterbacks Lamar Jackson is
kind of built for the regular season, Josh Allen. Regular season,
it's that big game where Mahomes is built for both.
(33:00):
But now I think he's more built for the postseason
than the regular season. I just I find that interesting
with And I don't know if it's you know, I'm
kind of pushing or stretching for something, but it just
feels like some quarterbacks love live like Brady. I don't
know any of his stats from the regular season.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I don't I don't like the one season where you
know he had Randy Moss. But I just knew when
he got to the postseason, he's going to win the game.
If he's got the ball three minutes, two minutes ago,
he's winning the game.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Mahomes has graduated to that level certain guys where you go,
oh boy, this is bad, but they are built for
that moment.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
How do you explain that?
Speaker 11 (33:41):
It's I know exactly what you mean. There's certain guys
on the flip side that when it's this, that's third
and twelve is coming up, and I just I know
this is not going to go well, and then it's
a pick six. And it's not that the guys aren't talented.
Like listen, the Peyton thing that goes back to college
when he couldn't beat the Gators. He just couldn't do it,
no matter how good he was. You mentioned Clayton Kershaw.
I remember when they were calling him Clayton Manning because
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he would get to October and he would just fall apart.
There's certain guys, and I listen you talk about fan
complaints and people getting mad. Baltimore raven Stands are very
sensitive about Lamar, I mean very sensitive, and I get it.
He is their guy. I always put it as Lamar
is the fantastic, fantastic regular season player. He doesn't play
his A game in the playoffs. He doesn't play the D.
(34:24):
He plays the B or B plus and the best
ones hit their A game in the playoffs, and so
he has turnovers. He'll do this, he'll do that, and
I'm not saying he's bad, but only certain guys, like
the ones you referenced out of nowhere sometimes can just
get to that a game and certain guys can.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Good luck with the show and and your day job too.
At Good Morning Football. Great to talk to you again.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Uh Dan, It's great to see you anywhere other than
the sports semans where I usually see you and we
never win.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know, we were both like peeking in, like, uh, okay,
who's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
It's not us. Okay, drive home safely.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
I wish I could. You're so dead. I wish I
could tell the fans. Dan is literally in the last row,
like throw five thousand, there's no one behind him. I
saw Fritzy and me and as they're reading our award,
we basically have our valet ticket in our hands.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
My car was running just to let you go like
I am out of here. Thank you, Good to talk
to you.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
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Speaker 3 (35:37):
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Speaker 2 (35:54):
We're going to do the Defensive Player of the Year now,
not asking you to tell me who the favorite is.
It's who you think will be the defensive player of
the year, Todd, I'll start with you. Defensive player of
the Year is going to be.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm gonna go with Aiden Hutchinson, back from injury and he's.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Got a lot to prove.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
He has the second best odds according to DraftKings Seaton
Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
I'm gonna go a little further down what I imagine
these lists have. I'm going with one William Anderson, junr.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Oh the third.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
I think this is his breakout year.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yep, I think Marvin.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
I'm gonna go with Jared versus the Rams.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Okay, all right, We're going with a little bit more
of a long shot there, all right.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Paul, I will go with Max two Ex's Crosby, kind
of a career achievement, come back from injury type thing.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'm gonna go Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Jalen Carter of the Eagles, Thank you, thank you, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It would be interesting because Jalen Carter, who's completely worthy,
could do it without stats. Yes, like he could have
seven sacks, but he disrupts everything.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
But it's like Aaron Donald. Yes, Aaron Donald was the
best defensive player. But it wasn't about stats.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
There.
Speaker 11 (37:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
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Speaker 3 (37:33):
How about this the odds for the Rookie of the Year?
I did? Who will lead in rushing? Let's see? Do
I have the.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Offense defensive player in the year.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I know, maybe I lost my way here, lost my
sheet that had offense. Oh here it is Offensive Rookie
of the Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Offensive
Rookie of the Year. Todd I'm gonna go Travis Hunter.
Travis Hunter fourth on the list. Marvin I'm gonna go
(38:10):
Ashton Gense. He is the leading candidate.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Paul for the Patriots. Trevion Henderson running.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Back okay, Seaton, I'm also going Ashton gent Oh, okay
as well.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'm gonna go cam Ward, cam Ward Defensive Player of
the Year, Marvin This is the rookie of This is
the defensive Rookie of the Year. Abduall Carter is the
overwhelming favorite to be the defensive Rookie of the Year.
Travis Hunter is second, Mike Greene, Jalen Walker, and I
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think that's it. So just some of your draft kings odds.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
I feel like those bottom three guys also play for
the Houston Rockets. Mike Green, Jayen Walker, Michael Williams. Those
guys all play for the Rockets, confirm or they might
have been traded to the Portland Trailblazer. Yeah, maybe stop
with the Hawks. But Joe in Vegas, Good morning, Joe,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (39:17):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Thank you for taking the call.
Yet the other day on the show, you had mentioned
something you briefly talked about Kirk Kirk Street and his
relationship with Lee Corso and how he sort of helped
him and walked him through some things in the last
couple of years.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Of his career.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
There on college game day, and I was reminded of
one of my many, many things I love about this
show is that the dynamic you had with Paulie, because
as we know, you wear your emotions on your sleeve.
You're not afraid to cry, You're not afraid to let
us know how you feel. And Paulie, as we all know,
does not cry and does not show emotion. And so
(39:55):
I don't know what this says about me, but the
morning that the Great Jerry West passed away, my first
thought was, how is Dan going to handle this on
the air this morning? And my second thought was, it's
going to be really interesting to watch Paullie kind of
be the safety net for Dan and walk him through
it because we know Dan is going to struggle to
(40:15):
get through it on the air. And it's just a wonderful,
wonderful thing I love about the show and the relationship
that you and Paulie have and how he kind of
walks you through things sometimes when we know you're going
to get emotional.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Look, thank you, Joe.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, I go back to when I didn't know if
I was going to continue to do this, when I
was forgetting things I couldn't remember Albert Poohols his name.
I couldn't remember tom Izzo's name. And I said to Paul,
I said, you just have to be there, and he
was at really the most important time, because I didn't
(40:50):
know if I wanted to continue the way I was feeling,
and I just I couldn't have clear thoughts, and even
when there's somebody who passes way, and certainly with Jerry,
I mean, that was a tough day because in my mind,
my dad just died again. I saw Jerry West every
time I saw Jerry West, because my dad said, watch,
that's that's how you play basketball. And so I think
(41:13):
that's why it hit me so hard, our relationship with Jerry.
But I was kind of saying goodbye to my dad
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan It's Dan
Patrick Show. I guess we were a buzzkill in the
first hour because we talked about the Browns and Saints
not being good. You want false hope, right, if you're
fans of these teams and it's September three, you want
false hope. You don't want me saying, hey, the worst
odds to win the Super Bowl are the Saints or
(00:27):
the first coach who odds on to be fired as
Kevin Stefanski the Brams. You don't want to hear that.
I understand that my job is to just give you
what I believe is the truth. I'm not a hot
take guy. I'm not going out of my way to
disparage your team. I'm just telling you what I see
or what I hear. And if Vegas says the Saints
(00:49):
aren't going to be good, it's not me saying it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's Vegas saying it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But I'm just the messenger, and apparently some people want
to shoot the messenger from the first How can you
say that, I'm just telling you what Vegas is saying,
and Vegas doesn't you know, they don't have an opinion
from the standpoint of playing favorites. They just give you.
They're trying to make money. That's that's their job, and
(01:16):
that's why they had these odds that this coach could
get fired or this team or these teams have no
chance of making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yes, Pauline, but fans of below average teams striving to
work on Wednesday the third would much rather have a
little fake hope, a little belief.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That, hey, you know what if we could get the
line together.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, you know, if Spencer Ratler, you know, plays the
way we think he can.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Okay.
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The Dallas Cowboys are now eight and a half point
underdogs against the Philadelphia Eagles. The only other point spread
that's similar is Denver against Carolina's a right, Paul, It's
Denver by eight and a half against the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I believe Titans against them?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, Titans, Titans against them?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, cam Ward's debut and the Denver Broncos playoff team
a year ago?
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the Clippers in trouble? Pablo Torre is investigating the Clippers.
(02:54):
Did Steve Balmer have I guess a company that he started,
but it wasn't a real company, but they were using
money in that company to pay Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I think I have the parameters correct. Does that sound right?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Who was a Was it a tree service company?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's kind of like those no show jobs they talked
about with college sports. According to Pablo Tory, there was
a fraudulent tree planting company funded with fifty million dollars
of Steve Balmer, the Clippers owner's money, and Kawhi Leonard
had an endorsement deal with this company, a no show
endorsement deal that allegedly paid him twenty eight million dollars.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Which would circumvent the salary kit.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Allegedly, Pablo Torre will join us coming up next hour.
But if Pablo Torre is taking a deep dive, as
we found out in the last six months, look out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We did reach out to the Clippers and Steve Balmer,
we did reach out to the NBA. No word back justice,
thank you, Todd, But we did reach out to all
sides involved in this. But I thought that Kawhi Leonard
had a no show job that was called being a clipper.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, good joke.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Too easy, But you're gonna pay him more money, and
you can do so with the Tree Service Company. And
apparently it was a no show job.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Hey, mom and dad, I got a job with the
city planning trees all summer. What'd you make son? Twenty
eight million dollars?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So we'll talk to Pablo tore about this because if
if he's got enough information, I think he talked to
six or seven former employees of the Tree Service Company.
Un how much did they get paid for their no
show job? They did all the work, Kawhi go buy
(04:50):
and go Hey guys, yeah, Seaton, So.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
Does that mean Kawhi was really getting paid like not
fifty million, but like close to.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Eight It certainly sounds like there was an excess of
seventy million dollars there and off the books.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Seventy million.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
God, yes, Paulie, there is a bit of precedent for
this type of situation. Not to go too far down
the road, but if you remember a generation ago, the
Minnesota Timberwolves and Joe Smith had a series of contracts
that circumvented the salary cap and they lost five straight
first round draft picks.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, and other stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, that was my first thought is now that's that
was a different commissioner. Adam Silver is a hey, come on,
let's play nice in the sandbox commissioner David Stern, who
it would be, you know, they'd be held a pick.
Now doesn't mean Adam Silver is not going to come
down on the Clippers if this is true, But they're
going to lose. They're gonna lose first round draft picks,
(05:51):
and they'll probably be fined a substantial amount of money.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But this is early in the investigation.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Let's you know, we want to be fair to all
sides here, but Pablo Torre got to the point where
he made this public, and you make it public when
you feel like you Now the Clippers didn't say, hey,
we're going to sue you.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
They denied. You know that this was true.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
But we'll talk to Pablo Torre about how much information
you have and at what point do you decide to
go public with this that you're accusing Steve Baumer circumventing
the salary cap for Kawhi Leonard amazing. Kawhi Leonard and
Darrell Revs and Kirk Cousins great business guys, great businessmen.
(06:37):
Kawhi is a Hall of Famer, KIRKT. Cousins is not.
Durell revas is. But when it comes to financial you know,
the the financial acumen that they have or their representatives,
they are first team Hall of Famers, first team financial
Hall of Famers.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
And here's Kawhi who's made a ton of money.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And he's he's gonna be one of those guys will
look back and say, yeah, hall of Famer, but man,
he should have been a whole lot better.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
And it goes back to the Spurs. Remember when he
went to New York.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Didn't he get a second opinion, had the fallout with Popovich,
and then all of a sudden, you know, this thigh injury,
and then he's got a cousin who's involved in this,
and next thing, you know, he's playing for the Raptors,
and just wild, wild story with Kawhi Leonard who comes
in as a defensive guy, you know, goes to the Spurs,
(07:31):
helps lead them to an NBA championship, good feel good story,
and then all of a sudden, it's like he's not
gonna play, he's gonna get a second opinion, he's gonna
get traded.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He's gonna leave, He's going to the Clippers.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Yes, Marvin, Luckily he's playing for the Clippers, because if
he's playing for the Lakers, this would have been front
page now. No, I think it's because of Kawhi and
the Clippers as a combination of he's a low key
guy and it's a low key franchise.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
No knock to the Clippers. But luckily it's not the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But we'll talk to Pablo Tory next hour about this.
Johnny Manziel, Yeah, Johnny Manziel was trending yesterday because Johnny
Manziel was on the Nightcap podcast and the former Cleveland
brown quarterback had this to say about the Browns.
Speaker 10 (08:21):
I sit here today and I go back and forth
with man, am I gonna let Cleveland off the hook
and just like let it go? Or Am I gonna
sit here with the hate and animosity in my heart
for the rest of my life? And I finally sit
here today, I'm like good. I think I'm gonna be
pissed at I'm and hate him forever. So it is
what it is.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Man, no love for the Browns.
Speaker 10 (08:44):
I'm rooving for oh with sixteen seasons every season.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, they did draft you in the first round. Remember
when he sent a message draft me, sent that to
the owner draft me. I believe they did. You just
didn't live up to what you were supposed to. And
you're blaming the Cleveland Browns for Okay, maybe organizationally not
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very good?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Is it mismanagement?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I saw a quote that was attached to Johnny that
was basically saying, Hey, you should have done more research
on how to you know, position me to succeed. If
they did more research on you, they wouldn't have drafted you.
But to blame the Cleveland Browns. I mean, this keeps
you in the news, but it is time to move on.
(09:39):
It is it is time to move on because you
can blame the Browns for being the Browns, but you
should have been able to take care of yourself and
you didn't. You famously did not. And you know, we've
had former teammates on this show who have talked about
how you didn't care. Joe Thomas talked about that All
(10:00):
of Famer that you didn't put in the time, that
being a celebrity was more important to you. You got
to take it. You're not taking accountability. You didn't take accountability,
then you're not taking it. Now take accountability. Both sides
made the mistakes.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, Paulie, do you think of a guy like Manziell
where was taken in round four and didn't get that
big rookie deal. He may have worked harder to be
a starter, to be a player in the NFL fil
the rules or was it destined for disaster.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I don't know if he would have a chip on
his shoulder to try to prove everybody wrong. Maybe, but
if you go back to college, I mean, he got
away with a lot on and off the field, and
while we loved watching him, he gave us one of
the greatest seasons in college football history. You know, when
you're rushing for what fifteen hundred yards, you're you're running
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for touchdowns, you're throwing for touchdowns, you're beating Alabama OUTABMA.
It just you got to put in the time at
that position, and he didn't. He wanted to be a celebrity,
and at that position, you can become a celebrity, but
you got to become really good at what you do first,
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because it doesn't go you know, in the inverse order
there reverse order. Hey, I'm a celebrity. Now I'm going
to try to be a good quarterback. Be a good quarterback.
Then it you know, it might evolve into something bigger.
But that's unfortunate because move on, figure out what you're
doing with your life and apply. You just hate holding
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a grudge and if you're still blaming others, I mean,
this is gone.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And I even.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Said at the time that that you know, the football
world moves on so quickly, and they'll move on so
quickly from him, and he's not the only one, but
he was.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
The current one.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And I said, it'll be over and you know, pop'll
move on and then you'll be that curiosity of man.
He was really good when he was at A and M,
but you know in the pros he wasn't good. Didn't
put in the time. And you can't cheat people at
that position. Of all the positions, you can't cheat him
because it'll show.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And it did. Yeah, Pauling, he played.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Two years in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Johnny Manziel He had six starts. His second year in
the league. He was two and four and his quarterback
rating was seventy nine point four. He threw for seven
touchdowns and five picks. Not horrendous. He was the thirty
first ranked quarterback in quarterback rating that year. Below him,
worse than him was Colin Kaepernick, Andrew Luck, Nick Foles,
and Peyton Manning. They all in limited duty because they
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all played less than fifteen games, had worst quarterback ratings
that year. He'd win a bet on that one.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, it's unfortunate because I think we wanted that excitement,
hope for that excitement, and he got to the league
and you just he didn't put in the time. But
to sit there and continue to blame the Browns, good
luck with that. What's that going to get you in
life now. The Browns. Yeah, the Browns.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yes, to be fair, the Browns have a just a
littered history of running through players that they drafted very well.
So he he's not wrong in saying that the Browns
are terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But do you think if he had gone someplace else
that somehow this would have had a better ending, because
I I only possible, Well, it is possible, but knowing
his track record, I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Yeah, but I mean knowing their track record too.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Though he asked them to draft him on draft night,
he asked them to draft him. Yeah, so that's not.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Usually the way it works though. You don't just get
to text somebody be like hey draft me. They're like okay,
oh I know. But that'll tell you about both sides.
He wanted to play for them, and you know they
do not have a good front office or didn't have
a good front office, and they drafted him. Yes, yeah,
I mean I think he wanted to get drafted. You know,
he wanted to play, but he this is Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, so why would you go to a place that
is a terrible place to go and want to go
to a place that's a terrible place to go and
in Epton developing quarterbacks unless he had no idea how
bad it was. But still he said draft me. He
didn't send that to anybody else. He sent a text
that said draft me.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yeah, Like, did you ever go work somewhere and you
really wanted to work there and then it end up
being a horrible place and you're like, wow, I had
no idea on the outside that that's what this was
like at.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
But I have to take ownership. He's not taking any ownership.
I think he is taking ownership. I'm just I think
he's just saying he doesn't like them.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, but he's blaming them for who he is now
or what he is now, instead of saying we're both culpable,
or I never should gone there, or you know what.
That mistakes on me because it's a terrible match for me.
Like if you say that, then people, I think would
look at it and go, yeah, you're probably right. He's
just holding a grudge against Cleveland. You want them to
(15:12):
lose every game, But got to have accountability at some point,
and I don't think he does. Let me see David
in Ohio, Hi, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (15:24):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Speaking of Las Vegas odds. I think if Mark Davis
goes and gets his haircut other than great clips or
his mom, I think they might win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Thank you? All right.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
David's been on fire recently, he roasting Belichick, roasting the Raiders.
I like the Raiders. I do for some reason. Tom
Brady's a winner. He's gonna get him going. Got their quarterback, they're.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Running back, They got their tight end, got Max Crosby
ready to go.
Speaker 9 (15:55):
Yes, Marvin, I feel a little better if Tom Brady
was the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh well, yeah, he's still the best quarterback in the organization.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Oh now, still he is, I know he is.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I think Gino Smith would admit that, yes, ty.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Raiders would be better off if they're in the afty
South or to a lesser extent, the FC East, and
that the vision they just how are they not the
fourth best team right now?
Speaker 9 (16:17):
Even with but you just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Pie to the face. There we go, Raiders better record
than the Broncos.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We'll do that, Okay, all right, okay, I.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Have to do that. What kind of fan would say
not that I have? With the Raiders finishing gonna last?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All right, I know, let's take a break. Here we'll
come up with the pole question for hour two. Kyle
Brandt on loan from NFL Network. Good Morning Football will
stop by right after this Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (17:25):
More phone calls coming up. Michael Irvin, the Playmaker, top
of next hour, Pablo Torre, He's got an expose on
the Clippers and Steve Balmer where they paying Kawhi Leonard
off the books for a no show job to circumvent
this salary cap Dunk Dum. Kyle Brandt, popular co host
(17:47):
Good Morning Football, got a new show. The debuts today,
NFL Classic Sits upon further review. You'll find it at
the nine Eastern on Vice TV, Michael Irvin and Emmett
Smith breaking down the Cowboys nineteen ninety five NFC Championship game.
You can also see Kyle, Good Morning Football, Good to
(18:07):
see you again.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
How'd you come about deciding to do this?
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Normally, Dan, I would say I collaborated with my friends
and put something together. I didn't. They came to me
and they said, here's an idea for a show. You
want to do it. I felt like you hear these
actors say. I finally got to stop auditioning. I just
got an offer. This was my first offer. It sounded perfect.
I said yes, I'll take it, and ten minutes later,
(18:33):
I'm sitting there with Irvan and walked to the ninety
five title game. That's the origin story.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I did NBA's Greatest Games years and years ago at
NBA TV, and we'd have Bill Walton come in and
he would sit there and watch a game with you.
Isaiah Thomas came in and it's just fun because Isaiah
started crying during you know, looking back on the game,
Walton just couldn't stop talking. You know, you get these
(18:59):
guys that they look back and all of a sudden
they open up the scrap book and it's the emotion
that hits them that you might not be ready for
because to you, it was a game you're watching. To them,
it was the game they were playing in.
Speaker 11 (19:13):
And I think that's insightful. And what you get is
when you're not just watching highlights, like I've seen Joe
Montana talk about the catch a thousand times and he
tells the story from start to finish. When you actually
watch the game with the ebbs and flows and the
bad plays, well found out when I ended up happening Dan,
that was so funny. It was I was watching the
Titans Rams Super Bowl and the Titans are marching down
(19:34):
the field and it's Steve McNair and I'm with Cedric
the entertainer from Saint Louis and Kurt Warner, and they
were both nervous that the Rams were gonna lose. They
were on the edge of their seat and you start
to watch it, even though you know, you say, Kevin
Dyson's gonna score. I know it. They have too much momentum,
and you can watch them start to sweat all over again.
So it's funny and it's candid, but in multiple episodes
(19:57):
I saw actual fear from guys knowing full well they
win and still thinking they would lose. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
What's the one episode though, that you got something that
you didn't realize.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
There's a lot of them. I would actually stick with
this episode. This This is the again the Titans ninety
nine Rams versus the Titans. This is the coolest thing
about this, Dan, because we've looked at this game for
a quarter century and Mike Jones makes the tackle on
the one yard line and the Rams win. But here's
the what if. The question is the Titans were down seven,
if they score that touchdown, does Jeff Fisher go for
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two to win it right there? And Fisher's gone back
and forth over the years. I would have I wouldn't
have Eddie, George is Sam. We would have got it.
Everybody on the Rams defense is saying they would have
got it. We were out of gas. We've been battling
all game. We could have gotten, as fans, a win
the Super Bowl two point conversion play, which we've never
(20:52):
gotten before. And again you talked to Kurt about that,
he's helpless. He's standing on the sideline behind Dick Vermial,
who's ready to celebrate the tackle. The one yard line
could have given us the greatest finish ever in a
two point conversion. We'll still never know if they would
have gone for it.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I was fortunate when the Steelers played Arizona and we
thought Arizona's going to win the Super Bowl. Now I'm
handing out the trophy. So I'm on the sidelines and
I'm standing next to Steve Young. So Steve is doing
analysis on Ben's final drive. So we're walking down the
sidelines and he's now he's part quarterback but part fan,
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and he would be He said, you don't understand, like
this is incredible. He was so excited, and it's one
of the greatest moments I've ever had in this in
my career because I'm watching with a Hall of Famer,
We're watching Ben lead this drive that's going to win
a Super Bowl, and those are that's why you sign
up for this, because we are fans and we want
(21:53):
to enjoy. You know, it's still our job to be,
you know, a host, analytical, but that's where you go Cowley,
this is awesome, awes And that was years ago.
Speaker 11 (22:03):
They watched that game with Steve Young, and I can
tell you remember it like it was yesterday. When when
you really when you're talking to the athletes, and it's
not over zoom, it's not on the phone, it's when
they're watching themselves work. So many different emotions come out, like,
for example, the Cowboys are really hot right now. In media,
I was sitting and I'm watching the ninety five title game.
This is Cowboys versus Packers. It's Akman versus FIV, and
(22:25):
I'm with Emmett and Irvin. It's the episode that we
start the show with. We talked for over an hour,
and I don't think they said the name Barry Switzer
one time.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Between them, they.
Speaker 11 (22:35):
Said Jimmy Johnson Dan probably thirty times. My takeaway was
Jimmy Johnson was the coach of that team. He had
been removed for years. And Barry Switzer, God bless him.
These guys did not want to say the word. They
avoided the word even when I asked about it. I
just think Jimmy was still the head coach, and the
emotions came out for those.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Two talking to Kyle Brant NFL Network, Good Morning Football,
NFL Classics upon further review at nine Eastern on Vice TV,
and Michael Irvan Emmett Smith with the first episode.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Fans can't get to you when.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You're hosting Good Morning Football, like they can call into
the show. Where they can you know, they can text
or tweet the show. But you know, I'm already getting
catching strays because I was critical of the Browns and Saints,
you know, just the odds of them making the playoffs
or going to the super Bowl. How do fans get
to you to let you know they don't like what
(23:29):
you said?
Speaker 11 (23:30):
Oh well, you're putting this one right in the wheelhouse.
We just made playoff picks yesterday. Here's the ones that
I like them. I like the fan bases that you
picked their team for the playoffs. But it's only a
wildcard and not a Are you kidding me? I'm getting
screamed at by of all people, I'm getting screamed at
(23:50):
by Lions fans because they only won the wild card.
Is there a more nouveau reach thing than that? Somebody
drive in a yellow because they won the lottery, and
they're already complaining that they're only a wild card. The
Lions fans would have cut off a finger for a
wild card five years ago. And they hate me on
(24:10):
social media because I dare to give them not the
division championship. It's nuts.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I'm gonna make you program director for the NFL. You picked,
let's do it. You picked the super Bowl.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Okay. If i'm if I'm programmed director for human beings
and all of humanity, and in the time of AI
we need some of this, then that one's easy. Just
just give me Buffalo versus Detroit and someone can be happy.
All right, that's you get those fans together, it's hugging.
It's cats and dogs living together. Somebody wins. But if
I'm gonna be the NFL programmer, and I'm gonna try
(24:43):
to do it at the bottom line, and I'm gonna
spike ratings, Dan, can I also pick the halftime performer?
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Sure?
Speaker 11 (24:52):
I have the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl again,
Taylor's the halftime performer. And then in the NFC, we
can't do Philadelphia. It's Dallas. It's Dallas versus Kansas City,
and they have the story of the year has been
that Jerry Jones suckered us all and Micah wasn't when
Micah was cracked up to be and he's back and
he's against Taylor and she's doing Love Story and everybody's crying.
(25:13):
It's Chiefs Cowboys in San Francisco, where the Cowboys have
a lot of history. That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I think there's a better chance that Taylor Swift does
halftime than the Cowboys get there.
Speaker 11 (25:27):
I think you're right. I think actually, at this point,
I think the Super Bowl halftime show is beneath Taylor Swift.
I think that she is way bigger than it. And
I may say that as an NFL employee. I think
she's bigger than it, and I think you're right. I
think it's still more likely that she does it and
goes a three hour set before the Cowboys do it.
I said lines fans, I'm trying to figure out, Dan,
(25:48):
why are you hearing from Saints and Browns fans? What
do they have to complain about?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
They don't want to be told. Do you want to
have false hope on September third? You don't want to
hear the voice saying yeah. Vegas said, you guys have
the best dodge for the number one pick in the draft,
or Vegas says that you guys have the longest dodge
to reach the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
They don't want to hear it. They know it's true,
they don't want to hear it.
Speaker 11 (26:12):
I think they should hear it. There's nothing wrong with that,
at least after a Week one. If you lose Week one,
then they'll be calling the show being like, when are
you going to start doing mock drafts. I can't believe that.
Saints and Browns, let's go.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
There are more teams you think can reach the super
Bowl or more teams who can't make the playoffs.
Speaker 11 (26:31):
I think there's a lot of teams that could reach
the super Bowl this year. You have the normal headliners
that you think of, of course this team, that team,
and then you have these teams that aren't in the
neon lights, like teams that are built for a super Bowl,
like Tampa Bay for example. Who have the coach, you
have the quarterback. I don't mind the Rams again, I
always look at the coaches. I don't mind the Chargers.
(26:53):
Like the only thing people can say against the Chargers
is they lost the linemen. It sucks, I know, he
got hurt. I just look at Jim Harbone and look
at the quarterback we're in this WEEKDND where there's this
there's this sweepstakes Kentucky Derby type thing here in sports
media where everyone gives their picks and everyone has to
be right, and everyone's trying to hack the system. I
have a few simple guidelines that I go by first
and foremost always always always pick the Steelers in the
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Bingo card. They're the free space. You get that one
for free. The rest are up to you. I always
pick the Rams because I believe Sean McVay is the
best coach in the league. And then just look at coaches.
Just pick veteran, proven coaches and the guys who have
been there before, and they'll get you home. So I
think there's a lot of teams that can make the
super Bowl this year because then you get those tasty
ones like a few years ago Joe Burrow and the
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Bengals in his second year, and then you're like, oh,
look at all the second year quarterbacks. You got them
across the board. One of those teams could make a run.
Because I think for quarterbacks now year two the year
is new year five. So All those guys are in
the freight too.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's almost like March Madness, where you always pick tom
Izzo in Michigan State because it's it's tom Izzo, or
you pick John Caliperi, Rick Patino. You're picking the coaches,
Jim Beaheim, You're picking the coaches who are always going
to be there. You went to the Steelers camp. Yeah,
how's morale great?
Speaker 11 (28:14):
It's good. I mean, I say this pretty candidly. It
was odd. I sat with Mike Tomlin as someone who
spent the entire offseason saying that he should be replaced,
and so I respected that he's still sat down. But
I've been the guy saying Mike Tomlin is at the
point that Andy Reid was with the Eagles. There's nothing
wrong with it. It's going to benefit both parties. The
part he'll land somewhere else. And then you show up
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to camp and I have to tell you, Dad, I've
never sat with him before. It's every single thing you
ever hope it was. There's gravitas, there's magnetism, there's insights.
He looks at you, he shakes your hand, heart and
everything he say you just kind of nod, even though
some of its cliches. And then I say to him,
all right, He's like, we got some veterans here. I
got to teach an old dog new tricks. And I said, well,
you have the oldest dog in the league. Your quarterback's
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forty one. He laughs. Rogers sits down, fantastic, positive vibe,
super happy. Gets married in the off season. I presented
him with that question because there was a lot of
I don't know, internet rumors and intrigued that Aaron Rodgers,
you just showed up and got married. You're a public
figure we've been following for years. I presented him with
(29:16):
information that I said, Aaron, I did the research. Players
in this generation who get married in the off season
go on to have an overwhelmingly successful next season Across
the board. It always happens. How is this affecting you
as a football player? And he goes into this deep
dive answer about how his life is different and his
support system is different and all because of her, and
all because of her. Meanwhile, the rumors online about what
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this could be are I'm playing at Mars and he
just locks in and says, I'm playing this season for us.
So he's unique, He's unusual, he's still my favorite player
to interview, and his vibe was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I give you credit that you came at it with
a different angle because that's thank you. That's the tough part,
and you know, being a great interviewer, it's about what
is my angle that's going to be different because you
want them to realize that you did your homework and
that you did give this great thought instead of saying,
hey he got married.
Speaker 11 (30:08):
Huh yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Not going to give you. You got to work. You know,
there's certain athletes that you just have to work. They'll
make it worth your while, but you got to work.
And Aaron's one of those guys that he's not going
to listen to foolishness. So give you a lot of
credit with that.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
I appreciate the compliment from you, and it's you're exactly right.
And I did the same thing last week with Josh Allen.
I got to ask him, you can appreciate this, Dan.
I got to sit with Josh Allen for about twelve
minutes and I have to somehow ask him. You never
can beat the Chiefs. Everyone's talking about it. It's really
the only topic we can talk about you with football.
Is you can't get over the hump your what is
(30:44):
the original way to do that? And I concocted this
thing that was just like, listen, your wife. In her industry,
they have the Oscar speech and you think about it
and you practice in the mirror and you do it
in the shower. Do you have the super Bowl speech?
Is that something you have? And he went and he went,
He said, I had it since I was a kid.
I know every word, I know the tone, I knew
all of that, and I could tell a palpable appreciation
(31:07):
that I wasn't just like, how about these chiefs?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Huh?
Speaker 11 (31:10):
I guess you're patriots for manning? And he actually gave
a creative answer. So I was very proud.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The pressure on Josh Allen, now you won an MVP.
Local pressure, national pressure. Is there any big variation in
those two?
Speaker 11 (31:26):
Well, the buffalo pressure is just more as just buffalo
terror and fear and just how can we not get
one with this guy. I think the national pressure is
the same it's been for about three years. It's the
same identical pressure on Lamar Jackson, where every road leads
to that you're great, you did this. But the difference
is is that Josh has played much better in the
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playoffs than Lamar is. So Josh's narrative is they got
to get him help nationally. But I have to say,
I asked him point blank about you are looked at
as this new Peyton Manning. How do you deal with that?
Everything you do in the community, in the locker room,
you carry a burden with you, and the burden is
Josh has to bring home the big one. He said,
I don't think about it, and I'm like, yo, come on,
(32:10):
you think about it. He said, if it doesn't happen,
I'll be okay with that because I know I'm doing
everything I possibly can. This is a guy who is
twenty nine, he's three hundred million bucks. He just married
a movie star. He references her. I've been here Josh
Allen twenty five times. I have never heard him reference
God as much as he did, which I think is
a very good thing and shows he's onto new deals.
(32:31):
So he flat out said, I'm going all in. If
it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, so I don't worry
about it. It's his plan.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I find it interesting that you have baseball pitchers who
are really good in the regular season, yeah, and not
good in the postseason. You know, Greg Maddox wasn't great.
You know, Clayton Kershawn had his moments, but their Hall
of Fame pictures and you have quarterbacks Lamar Jackson is
kind of built for the regular season, Josh Allen. Regular season,
it's that big game where Mahomes is built for both.
(33:00):
But now I think he's more built for the postseason
than the regular season. I just I find that interesting
with And I don't know if it's you know, I'm
kind of pushing or stretching for something, but it just
feels like some quarterbacks love live like Brady. I don't
know any of his stats from the regular season.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I don't I don't like the one season where you
know he had Randy Moss. But I just knew when
he got to the postseason, he's going to win the game.
If he's got the ball three minutes, two minutes ago,
he's winning the game.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Mahomes has graduated to that level certain guys where you go,
oh boy, this is bad, but they are built for
that moment.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
How do you explain that?
Speaker 11 (33:41):
It's I know exactly what you mean. There's certain guys
on the flip side that when it's this, that's third
and twelve is coming up, and I just I know
this is not going to go well, and then it's
a pick six. And it's not that the guys aren't talented.
Like listen, the Peyton thing that goes back to college
when he couldn't beat the Gators. He just couldn't do it,
no matter how good he was. You mentioned Clayton Kershaw.
I remember when they were calling him Clayton Manning because
(34:02):
he would get to October and he would just fall apart.
There's certain guys, and I listen you talk about fan
complaints and people getting mad. Baltimore raven Stands are very
sensitive about Lamar, I mean very sensitive, and I get it.
He is their guy. I always put it as Lamar
is the fantastic, fantastic regular season player. He doesn't play
his A game in the playoffs. He doesn't play the D.
(34:24):
He plays the B or B plus and the best
ones hit their A game in the playoffs, and so
he has turnovers. He'll do this, he'll do that, and
I'm not saying he's bad, but only certain guys, like
the ones you referenced out of nowhere sometimes can just
get to that a game and certain guys can.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Good luck with the show and and your day job too.
At Good Morning Football. Great to talk to you again.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Uh Dan, It's great to see you anywhere other than
the sports semans where I usually see you and we
never win.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know, we were both like peeking in, like, uh, okay,
who's gonna win.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
It's not us. Okay, drive home safely.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
I wish I could. You're so dead. I wish I
could tell the fans. Dan is literally in the last row,
like throw five thousand, there's no one behind him. I
saw Fritzy and me and as they're reading our award,
we basically have our valet ticket in our hands.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
My car was running just to let you go like
I am out of here. Thank you, Good to talk
to you.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
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called NFL Classics Upon further review with Michael Irvan, who
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Speaker 3 (35:37):
Smith. Well take a break, your phone calls and we
will pick the defensive Player of the Year. After this.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
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Speaker 2 (35:54):
We're going to do the Defensive Player of the Year now,
not asking you to tell me who the favorite is.
It's who you think will be the defensive player of
the year, Todd, I'll start with you. Defensive player of
the Year is going to be.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm gonna go with Aiden Hutchinson, back from injury and he's.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Got a lot to prove.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
He has the second best odds according to DraftKings Seaton
Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
I'm gonna go a little further down what I imagine
these lists have. I'm going with one William Anderson, junr.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Oh the third.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
I think this is his breakout year.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yep, I think Marvin.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
I'm gonna go with Jared versus the Rams.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Okay, all right, We're going with a little bit more
of a long shot there, all right.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Paul, I will go with Max two Ex's Crosby, kind
of a career achievement, come back from injury type thing.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'm gonna go Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Jalen Carter of the Eagles, Thank you, thank you, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It would be interesting because Jalen Carter, who's completely worthy,
could do it without stats. Yes, like he could have
seven sacks, but he disrupts everything.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
But it's like Aaron Donald. Yes, Aaron Donald was the
best defensive player. But it wasn't about stats.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
There.
Speaker 11 (37:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
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Speaker 3 (37:33):
How about this the odds for the Rookie of the Year?
I did? Who will lead in rushing? Let's see? Do
I have the.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Offense defensive player in the year.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I know, maybe I lost my way here, lost my
sheet that had offense. Oh here it is Offensive Rookie
of the Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Offensive
Rookie of the Year. Todd I'm gonna go Travis Hunter.
Travis Hunter fourth on the list. Marvin I'm gonna go
(38:10):
Ashton Gense. He is the leading candidate.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Paul for the Patriots. Trevion Henderson running.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
Back okay, Seaton, I'm also going Ashton gent Oh, okay
as well.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'm gonna go cam Ward, cam Ward Defensive Player of
the Year, Marvin This is the rookie of This is
the defensive Rookie of the Year. Abduall Carter is the
overwhelming favorite to be the defensive Rookie of the Year.
Travis Hunter is second, Mike Greene, Jalen Walker, and I
(38:51):
think that's it. So just some of your draft kings odds.
Speaker 7 (38:56):
I feel like those bottom three guys also play for
the Houston Rockets. Mike Green, Jayen Walker, Michael Williams. Those
guys all play for the Rockets, confirm or they might
have been traded to the Portland Trailblazer. Yeah, maybe stop
with the Hawks. But Joe in Vegas, Good morning, Joe,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (39:17):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Thank you for taking the call.
Yet the other day on the show, you had mentioned
something you briefly talked about Kirk Kirk Street and his
relationship with Lee Corso and how he sort of helped
him and walked him through some things in the last
couple of years.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Of his career.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
There on college game day, and I was reminded of
one of my many, many things I love about this
show is that the dynamic you had with Paulie, because
as we know, you wear your emotions on your sleeve.
You're not afraid to cry, You're not afraid to let
us know how you feel. And Paulie, as we all know,
does not cry and does not show emotion. And so
(39:55):
I don't know what this says about me, but the
morning that the Great Jerry West passed away, my first
thought was, how is Dan going to handle this on
the air this morning? And my second thought was, it's
going to be really interesting to watch Paullie kind of
be the safety net for Dan and walk him through
it because we know Dan is going to struggle to
(40:15):
get through it on the air. And it's just a wonderful,
wonderful thing I love about the show and the relationship
that you and Paulie have and how he kind of
walks you through things sometimes when we know you're going
to get emotional.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Look, thank you, Joe.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, I go back to when I didn't know if
I was going to continue to do this, when I
was forgetting things I couldn't remember Albert Poohols his name.
I couldn't remember tom Izzo's name. And I said to Paul,
I said, you just have to be there, and he
was at really the most important time, because I didn't
(40:50):
know if I wanted to continue the way I was feeling,
and I just I couldn't have clear thoughts, and even
when there's somebody who passes way, and certainly with Jerry,
I mean, that was a tough day because in my mind,
my dad just died again. I saw Jerry West every
time I saw Jerry West, because my dad said, watch,
that's that's how you play basketball. And so I think
(41:13):
that's why it hit me so hard, our relationship with Jerry.
But I was kind of saying goodbye to my dad
one more time. Two hours in the books, Final Hour
on the Way
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