June 19, 2025 • 40 mins
Lakers beat writer Dan Woike joins Dan to answer the question: why did the Buss family sell the Lakers now? NBA TV’s Brendan Haywood discusses the availability of Pacers’ star Tyrese Haliburton in Game 6 and the generational debates of NBA greats (forget just Lebron and MJ, what about Kobe and Kareem?)
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Hour two on this Thursday Basketball Tonight, Okase is favored
by six. On the road, it was four and a half.
And I think maybe the fact that we're not quite
sure about Tyrese Halliburton his availability. I know that Vegas
has downgraded the numbers that they expect from him. You
see seventeen and a half points over under now it's
thirteen and a half. The question is if he plays,
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how much he plays, and then what does Okayse do
to retaliate? And I'd go right at him right from
the beginning. He's a slow starter, has been from throughout
this series, and I'd see what he has if he's
going to be out there. More on this coming up
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Why now, Genie Buss the family sells the Lakers to
Mark Walter the part of the Dodger ownership for ten
(01:11):
billion dollars. Dan Woiki, he is the Lakers beat writer
La Times joining us on the program. Dan, thanks for
joining us. Why sell? Why sell?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
The only answer I've been able to come up with
at this point is ten billion dollars. That's the answer,
and it's it's an interesting thing because that'll be the
thing that we learn here over the next few weeks,
a few months and stuff. No one from the Lakers
is still set a peep about this, right MATG. Sjohnson
(01:46):
kind of was the de facto spoke person. He's the
person that has you know, hands in the Mark Walter
cap obviously very close to Genie Buss. So we don't
totally know why. Here's what we do know. We know
that to sell the team, the way that the ownership
thing is structured, after doctor Jerry Buss died, a majority
of his six children needed to vote to sell, and
(02:07):
that majority never existed until yesterday. So that is I
think the interesting thing, right, is that always Genie was
running the team. You know, Jim was involved with the team.
He was the sort of executive. Bath Operations famously tried
to sue his sister to try to wrestle control of
the team. In twenty seventeen, the older siblings Johnny and
(02:30):
Janey not that involved. And you know, but but Joey
Buss runs the you know, salt A team, Jesse Buss
involved in the scouting department. These are people that have
day to day roles with the organization. And you know,
so I think that's kind of what's what we're learning
here A little bit is sort of how this played
out that way. It's an interesting not to get like
(02:52):
weigh in the weeds on like trust law, but it's
an interesting like part of the way their ownership is structured.
This was always sort of inevitable the way the deal
was structured, and was that you know, this sound morbid,
and I apologize, but if the oldest Bus sibling were
to die, it's not like those shares go to next
of kin. The tide just gets smaller. It goes from
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being cut six ways to being cut five ways, and
then it goes to being cut four ways, and it
keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller, sort of a
last person standing type of situation, you know. And these
are people Genies in her mid sixties and stuff like that.
It just it's a lot of money there. It's a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
What's it mean for the Laker fan.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I think it's probably good news. It's a little less charming, right.
I think that was one of the things about the
Laker organization, especially if you were around the team and
you're a fan who goes to games and you see
you know, Genie bus and you could you used to
be able to tweet it or a lot when she's
really active on social media. It was like very she's
a very public person. I mean, it's a family business.
(03:57):
It truly is a family business, and I think it
will lose that and I'm not sure that's like good
in total for a league that is losing this all
the time because the money is just getting bigger and
bigger and bigger. But I mean, I think we can
it's fair to look to the Dodgers, right, And I'm
not I'm not suggesting they're going to pay show Heyo Tani,
(04:18):
you know, tw million dollars to play center next season,
Like that's not how this really works in the NBA.
But what you can do is you can pour that
money into everything else. You can pour that money into
your bench. You can pour that money into your analytics department,
you can pour that money into development, pour that money
into the arena. You know, the Lakers. That's another crazy
part of this deal, Dan, The Lakers don't own property.
(04:39):
It is like a brand, right, that is what you're
buying a lot of times when these evaluations come up
for teams, it's you know, they own their arena. Part
of the Warriors evaluation is they've got a huge piece
of real estate, you know, right on the Bay. That's
not the Lakers. The Lakers are at least the play
inside of Crypto dot com. Like, so this is a
(05:00):
fuel for the prean But but I think it's fair
to think that Mark Walter, the way that they've operated
the Dodgers, they're going to pour money into this in
all the places they can to give the team the
best chance to win consistently.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But you know, in baseball, you can overspend, can spend, yes,
but you can't outspend. I mean, you know the Golden
State Warriors did there for a while where they didn't
care about the luxury tax, but and then they changed
the rules.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes, right, yeah, and so yeah, I think I think
that part of it is overstated, right, Like, Look, the
Lakers were in the luxury tax. They're repeatedly in the
luxury tax. You can point to a couple of times
in recent history where maybe they cheaped out on something
famously kind of Alex Caruso is like one of those things.
(05:44):
And obviously that was bad decision, I think. But I
mean they're paying. They're not afraid to fire coaches and
keep paying salaries. I mean, it feels like we do
that every two years out here right now. You know,
that's not the issue. I will say when you talk
to people about the Lakers organization around the NBA, generally speaking,
the thing, the sort of really direct way people describe
(06:08):
that is it's a place that does the big things
really well, in the small things really poorly, and the
small things like they've been getting better at some of
the smaller things. But I think it's fair to point
to infrastructure when you talk about small things and like
things like beefing up a scouting department, you know, putting
more money into that, putting more people on the road,
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stuff like that. You know, that's where, especially the way
the second apron is structured, you've got to hit on
your minimum signings you have to hit when you don't
have draft picks, you have to hit on your secon
round picks. They've drafted pretty well. They've done well with
the college cutting. Their prost cutting needs to get much
much better. And I think that's a place where Mark
Walter can put a lot of money into it, and
I think you can see a difference.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Talking to Dan Woik, the Lakers beat writer for the
La Times, what kind of moves in the off season
with the Lakers do you see?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, well, I didn't see new owner. I do see
new center. I think new Center is the is the
most obvious one. I know. You know the Lakers have
spoken with Luka Doncic multiple times kind of what that
could look like. They know that's a position he needs,
they know that's a position they need. Right. It's an
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interesting kind of team building exercise for them because they
don't have a ton of assets. Stop me if you
heard this before about the Lakers. They need to get
better and they don't have a ton of ways to
get there. They have a first round pick that they
can trade either in twenty thirty one or twenty thirty two.
They've Dalton Connect, the first round pick from last year.
They've got some pick swops. This is I mean, this
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is what they traded for Mark Williams before they staw
the physical right, so they have some stuff. I would
be looking at centers like kind of like Mark Williams
around the NBA though that has been sort of their type, right,
So like Jalender and anyakakong Wu in Atlanta, Walker Castler
in Utah, these are people that I think they're going
(08:03):
to try and target young senators who kind of fit
the next future. Now, whether or not any of these
players are available, Dan another thing, and do the Lakers,
you know, if you're not available, Like do the Lakers
have a ten billion dollar offer to make for Walker Kessler.
They don't, you know, unless they're going to trade Austin Reeves,
(08:23):
and they've shown no indication that they are going to
trade Austin Reeves. They believe in Austin Reeves. Lukadacich believes
in Austin Reeves. The best Dallas Maverick teams with Lukadacic
had three things. Generally, they had a good center, they
had athletic wings, and they had a secondary playmaker, Kyrie
Irving Jalen Brunson. So in neither of those guys a
(08:45):
Tony Allen either, Right when it comes to like locking
guys down on the perimeter so it can work. I
think that is sort of where they're at in terms
of trying to figure this out. Athletic wings definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
A big What about Lebron's future?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean, boy, you know, well, we know he's not
retiring via Amazon commercial. He put that to bed, you know,
tease that out last week. He's gonna be back. You know,
I think he is good enough to keep playing. He
had the player option at the end of this month,
early signs where that he would accept it. He may
(09:23):
opt out and resign as an unrecircuit free agent and
again kind of play this sort of signed me for
a two year extension, give me an option on the
back of that. You know, it's all signed points and
finishing his career as a Laker, and he's not done.
He was an All NBA player last year, played some
of the best defense I've seen him play as a
(09:44):
Laker for a stretch, kind of that January to March stretch.
Then got hurt. I think the knee injury Dan is
an interesting injury. It's an interesting thing for him he
hasn't really dealt with something like this, And so you know,
as a forty year old, I'm a guy who woke
up this morning with a sore elbow. Somehow like this
happens at age Dan, and he yeah, you know, I
(10:07):
think he's going to take his time and get to
one hundred percent. It's but yeah, I mean he's a
part of their plans.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Good to talk to you. I know you're on vacation,
but I don't know you're ever truly the.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Surface of the sun here in Scottsdale, Arizona. Dan, it's
it's a two hundred and fifty degrees.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You're not truly on vacation. If you cover the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Never never not allowed to be Thank you, Dan makes sense,
Dan Wyki, he covers the Lakers for the LA Times.
That's one of those where and I remember trying to
take vacations when I would work at Sports Center. Then
all of a sudden something would happen. Then somebody would
say where are you? And I knew what that meant.
Are you capable of coming in to do Sports Center? Hey,
(10:47):
such and such just happened? Where are you? And then
my wife knew whenever I'd get the call and be like, uh.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Gotta go do Sports Center.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I got to leave you with these four kids under
the age of seven because I have to go do
Sports center.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Hunt.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yes, Paul, depending on which NBA team you're a beat
writer for, you could plan your vacation in late April, Yeah,
maybe May, maybe June. Oh, and the draft coming up. Yeah,
there's a couple of players I'm curious about. One is
one is Ace Bailey played at Rutgers.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now there's starting to get some information that's coming on
that he is not prepared when he goes to these interviews.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
He's dropping a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, he's one of those guys who is unbelievably athletic.
First of all, they had him listed at six'. Ten
he's six.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Can we stop? Doing that because if everybody knows that you're,
doing it can we? Just stop, you, know like he's, Six,'
ten no he's six, He's six eight but you're and
he Was on a rutgers team, that You Know had
ron harper's, son on it, And You know dylan harper
might be this can?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
PLAYER take it, i Don't Know but.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Ace bailey is dropping a little bit and Some of
the some of the scouts are saying, he's not prepared.
He's showing up certain teams might not want to play
for but it. Might get interesting this is where he
drops a little bit and then somebody may.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Get A Bargain, with ace bailey.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Who's very talented but you're not that talented Because You
and dylan harper didn't get your TEAM into, the ncaa
tournament which is almost impossible to do if you have
two guys who are, a lottery bid two guys who
are probably. Top five. Picks Uh. Bad brendan haywood HE.
(12:44):
Covers the nba he won a Title With. The dallas mavericks,
he'll join, Us coming Up Tony, In, la hi tony
what's on?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Your?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Mind.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Today hey dan dodger fans are kind of upset About
this because dodger fans have been paying exorbitant prices for the,
past ten years and now they find out they've been
stashing money To. Buy, the lakers Like what do? Dodger
fans care Who? Owns the lakers their money's Going to.
The bus family Hopefully they lowered dodger Prices and raised
laker Prices and the laker fans could Pay back the
(13:14):
walter for, buying their Team because the dodger fans don't
want to do it anymore now they find out what's.
Been going on and now we hear they may have
to build a new arena because that arena is no
good and hopefully they're not They're not using dodger money
to build. That, arena either.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well it probably all comes from the same, Cookie. Jar
THERE tony but i understand why you would be upset
when you realize you you bought a brand for. Ten
billion dollars you don't. Get The building goilden state, Has
the building you got that Property There. In san francisco
you bought a brand for. Ten billion dollars that is.
(13:51):
A powerful Brand. Mark In, Virginia Hi, mark.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Hey dan earlier you're Talking About And Steph. Lee's golden
state they're not going TO be probably i. Looked as
valuable my question is Where do the bulls stit in
with that? Analogy As well, since jordan's retired are the
bull and don as valuable or do you find them
still as like.
Speaker 10 (14:15):
A worldwide brand.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I don't think they're. A worldwide, brand i mean if
You do, see bulls gear it's, FROM the nineties i
don't think Anybody Was buying josh giddy gear Unless. You're
in Australia Even, WITH billy donovan i mean they've been.
Kind of average you, make the PLAYOFF but, they're i
mean it goes away because they're NOT.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
On national tv people aren't Talking, about the bulls and
the same thing Will Happen. With golden state you're just
not going to have that. Tune, IN factor yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
I THINK that the nba has something that's interesting that
it has a larger international audience for sure than probably
any other sport that we Play In. The united states
but the basketball jersey is such a. Fashion like statement
maybe it's something that you wear because you like the way,
that it looks and then having different. Ones is appealing
(15:10):
so you'll always sell a CERTAIN portion, of nba jerseys
whether they're, new or old just based on the fact
that people. Like WEARING them and i don't know that
you don't really do that as much with a baseball
jersey or, a football jersey but a basketball jersey.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You, definitely do yeah you'll see guys who, will wear
jersey but it might be because of a player, or
throwback jersey whereas you're not going to Have, A random
hey i'm going To get. A cowboys jersey Are you? A? Cowboy, Fan.
Speaker 11 (15:33):
NO yes marvin i think another thing IS also the
nba was so big on promoting the stars and. Not
the teams do you think that ended UP hurting the
nba when trying to. Build, NEW brands.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well i think You were. A Bulls fan the bulls.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
HAD a, Brand i mean michael, had a Brand but
the bulls had a brand and that resonated. Around The
world the lakers that brand When you Had, shaq and
kobe that resonated.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Around the World, but the, bulls you.
Speaker 12 (16:02):
Know they're.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
NONDESCRIPT nobody cares i don't even know how you know
how highly they're Thought of in chicago because there's no.
REAL pulse, there i mean it's not hard to sell out,
a basketball, game BASKETBALL arena BUT i mean i don't
know if that's a great, indicator of boy that's still.
(16:23):
A strong brand i never Hear. About, The, Bulls yeah paul.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
And in basketball your brand can change in one day.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
With.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
One Person Yeah the orlando magic, went from hey this new. Boom,
shack worldwide Instance when when lebron Went. Back to cleveland
they went back to relevancy.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
In shortan day but that's where it would make Me
Nervous with golden state's evaluation because it just seems fluid
that if you, don't have stars what? Do you Have
And if golden state all, of a SUDDEN even though i,
love the jerseys but if they all of a sudden become,
An average team i'm a. Forty win team is that
(17:02):
fan base still going to be there because. You're showing
up you had an owner who spent and you had
something we had never.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Seen before on. A basketball floor you're not going.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
To have that you may have an owner who still wants,
to spend money, but even then with, the new restrictions
you're not able to do that the way.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They once did they were. Like luxury tax. We don't
care we're trying.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
To. Win championships here we'll. Take a break we'll talk
to more. Basketball coming up more phone.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Calls as.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
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Downloading the app we'll. Take a break we're. Back After This.
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
Marvin just found this graphic and it says getting ready for.
The game tonight it, says game day and It's Got
three indiana. Pacers, on it well in case you're wondering
Of the three paers, Who Were there tyrese halliburton is
not part of tonight's game six graphic that says the
matchup and then it's going TO be on abc At.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Eight thirty eastern are we supposed to?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Read into That Marvin was tyrese halliburton on that graphic
that they'll show when they're promoting the game of the? Previous,
five games, indeed he was.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
M mm hmmm i thought they were trying to.
Speaker 11 (18:25):
SPREAD the wealth i was trying to give him the benefit.
Of The, doubt but nope who do we?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Have in this We Have Nemhard nie Smith Siakam or miles.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Turner In, There.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
Miles Turner Nie.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Smith Siakam okay brendan haywood won a Championship. With the
mavericks HE WORKS. For NBA tv should i Read into
That Brendan that tyrese halliburton isn't part of the promotional aspect.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
OF game six i.
Speaker 13 (18:57):
Think you can't i'm not saying definitely for but there
probably is a little bit of skepticism on.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
The pacer side this. Is their superstar we're talking.
Speaker 13 (19:07):
About a, calf type injury and anytime you start going
to that caf type injury and trying to, play through
it you have to think all the way back to
What Happened to kevin durant when he Played through his
and sometimes even THOUGH It's, the nba finals even though it's,
a huge moment you have to think big picture and
if this is a, serious calf injury you do not
want a calf injury to turn into something a. Lot
more serious i'm not one, hundred percent sure but there's
(19:30):
definitely conversations being had Right Now about tyre's halliburn's health
because he did not look right.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
In game five could.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You see a scenario where he. Doesn't.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
Play tonight yes if he goes out there and he
tests the calf and he, can't move well then you
have to, shut him down no matter how big. The
game is if we go back to what happened earlier,
In these Playoffs I'm sure steph curry Wanted to play
grade one and a. Half hamstring injury you have to
protect the player, sometimes from himself and you have to
think about long term of what could happen if you
(20:00):
come back and you're not right and you do more
damage to a.
Speaker 10 (20:03):
Soft tissue injury.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Could it be a good Thing for the pacers if.
He doesn't, play absolutely.
Speaker 13 (20:09):
Not absolutely Not They need, tyre's halliburn man and they need,
him healthy too not just out there with. His jersey
on they need him out there, creating a, problem pushing
tempo getting in the, pick and, roll getting downhill getting two.
Feet into paint he doesn't always have, to score it
but he has to be a part. Of the problem
and if he's not right or not, able to play
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it's going to. Be really tough just look AT what
this okc team is done defensively as far As turning.
The pacers over think about How many turnover think about
how men turnovers they'll have They'll.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
Force if tyree's. Haliburn, doesn't play YEAH but IF.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I am tj McConnell out there, handling THE ball then
i keep It away From Nemhard and nie smith because they.
Were a, turnover you know they were turning the ball
OVER there, AND i wonder i don't want him out
there if he's fifty. OR sixty percent i don't want
you to be a hero and be it and evens
a detriment. To the team in the second half of,
THAT last game i Was Surprised that rick carlisle put.
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Him out there you're down double. Digits, at halftime.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
Well you' also have to understand guys get used, to
certain things and you. Look at it you look at
a Guy, Like Nim, hard nie SMITH more, importantly tj
McConnell you just. Brought him up he's used to playing
a certain. Amount of minutes he plays with a certain.
Level of energy he's always. Pushing and probing he's not
used to playing forty minutes, forty five minutes and so
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like he's exhausted after that third quarter he. Was he's
tired so, Now, it's like okay we're Trying. To get
halliburton then maybe we'll get McConnell back. In the game
but The problem with halliburton not playing is that it
puts everybody in. A different role so now you look
at A guy. Like tj McConnell instead of him being,
the energy guy now he has to come in and. Start,
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right away now who's gonna be the point? Guard behind
him now we're getting even deeper into, that PACER's bench
and that's what. The PROBLEM is but i do, agree
with you if hallow burden, is fifty Percent he should
he probably shouldn't go out there because he probably can't.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Help the team Who does j sga?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Remind you of.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
He not, apples for apples but if you look at
what he does in, the mid range a lot of
times he has The. Footwork of kobe i'm Not. SAYING
he's kobe i don't Want nobody on twitter. COMING from
ME i know i know how people how sensitive people
get about their stars from back. In the day but
when you look, at the footwork the, up and unders
the pump fakes, and everything else he Reminds. Me of
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kobe and he lives in that mid Range. Like a
kobe kobe wasn't really a great three point shoot if
you look, at the, numbers but man what he did
in the mid range with special and that's Kind of
what sga. Reminds me of but a new school version
because he's more he's like a point.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Guard As Well and moan schumpert was with us yesterday
And he said.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
KOBE as well.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
I mean it's.
Speaker 13 (22:49):
EASY to see i mean there's some there's some there's some,
video out there the footwork, side by side, and, you're like.
Speaker 10 (22:55):
Wow it's scary you can tell That He.
Speaker 13 (22:58):
Studied kobe bryant he watched a Lot of what kobe
does and he's just perfected that. Mid range game Shout
Out to sam cassell who actually started him down that
path his rookie year when he Was. With The clippers
and sam was one of the best mid range guys
from back. In THE day and sga has always worked
on his mid range Game Ever since sam cassell put
(23:18):
him in that space and and it's really.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
Really showing today.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So You, played with Lebron, played with Michael? Played, against
kobe yeah how would how would you? Assess those players.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
All great Players kobe and michael were one and the
same as, far, as game. Mentality everything else lebron is,
a different, entity not, better not worse but his thought
process and how he sees the. Game is Different Kobe
and Michael. Carbon copies lebron lebron is is different and
(23:58):
even how he from the way he put the way
he sees the game the way he goes about things
on and. Off the, Court, You know Michael michael and.
Kobe are, cutthroat you know if you ain't if You
Can't help, michael jordan win he really ain't got No
time for i'm trying TO tell you i saw. That
first hend if You Can't help michael jordan, win basketball
(24:19):
game he don't have any, time for you and he
will say it directly. To Your face lebron james is
a little. Bit more diplomatic he might send you a subtle.
A subtle message he might try to see if you'll slowly.
Pick It up and i've got to see that firsthand
With Him and Kyrie Irving, and dion waiters and he
he was trying to coach them to see if they
would eventually figure out how to win. At this level mike's.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Not that tight but we keep trying to make that comparison,
or that Argument, and It's. Michael it's lebron can you
make A case that kobe is every bit The equal
that michael is and then maybe he should be involved?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
In that, discussion, IS.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Well man I see that you're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Me.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
In trouble, man you know you know how sensitive people Are.
Speaker 13 (25:06):
ABOUT their God I, love kobe bryant, rest in peace
one of the BEST players that i. Ever played against
but when you start, nitpicking the stars you Probably can't
put kobe in the Same level As michael and lebron
when you look at, the total MVPs when you look
at just even the when you look, at the finals
(25:27):
you have to go look At some of kobe's earlies
finals performances against the nets that. Wasn't really, great you
know He had big fellow with him early on. IN
his career i mean that that counts for a lot
when you got the when you got the big, dog
in there.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
He, was the SHACK was the mvp of the.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
First THREE finals So.
Speaker 13 (25:44):
I love kobe he is top, Ten FOR sure but
i think when you talk about the best three players,
of all time it's Actually, Not it's Mike.
Speaker 10 (25:54):
Bron and kareem, in, My opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah kareem might be the greatest player.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Of ALL time if i, in, high school COLLEGE, in
the nba he might be the. Greatest greatest, player you
know single handedly had a move, that was unstoppable and
he won everywhere, That HE went and i kind of. Find,
him underrated brandon it's weird to say that we kind
Of forget because kareem won a title and it really
(26:21):
wasn't you Know when When larry and, magic came IN that's,
when tv Started and then, mike came in, and you
know it JUST. Changed the nba those who played, prior
to that some of those championships and their.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Greatness, was lost, yeah YOU.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
Know, Like, i said, kareem you know he had The.
Speaker 13 (26:37):
Championship, in milwaukee then like, You talked About magic and
larry took the game. To another level and then you
also have to look at The fact that kareem wasn't loved,
by the media so he doesn't get he never got,
the same, push you know and so. It's different now
There was no internet and There was no twitter or anything.
Else like that media had to push you to, a
(26:58):
Certain degree and koree didn't, have that love so he
didn't get pushed quite like some of the other stars back. In,
the day yeah don't. Get it twisted, like you said that's.
A good.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
Point, was unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah that's a Great point that kareem didn't care if,
you liked him and he didn't go out of His way.
To curry favor We're Talking. To brendan haywood HE'S WORKING.
For nba tv you were A Teammate of dirk noavisky
his forty seventh, Birthday to, day oh.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Man happy birthday he dirt, GETTING old man.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What's Your favorite? Dirk novitsky Story my?
Speaker 10 (27:33):
Favorite dirk story.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And how many news did you take to your chest
when you were trying to guard him with that fade away.
Speaker 13 (27:42):
JUMPER of his, i never really, You know what he
never really had to meet me. In the chest he
used to just get in my body, and fade away
and it used to just frustrate me that he would
get that jumper.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Off ON me but i Think my favorite dirk story
is WE'RE In.
Speaker 13 (27:57):
The nba finals it's, before the finals and, because it
was it's my favorite story because it's Not really. Who
dirk is he has, that quiet confidence but the way
he said it made me look, at, him like okay
big fellas really with the smoke and we're Taking On
the big three and we're talking. About the game we're in,
the locker room we're talking. About the matchup we're Going.
(28:18):
Against The heatos Obviously lebron D Wade and chris bosh, and,
we're like yeah what we're gonna do To Stop? The
big three and he's just like That ain't no big
three and we kind of, Look at, him.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
We're like what.
Speaker 13 (28:29):
Do you, Mean he's like i'm look at. It like
that if they Were really a big three, and off
season they would have came. And GOT me and, i,
was Like okay because dirk don't, talk like that so
like and he, Really meant it and AT that time
i didn't know he kind of had like a simmering
Beef with d wade from six and the guys kind
of caught me, up, on, it like yeah he don't
really have no Love, For d wade and so Like
(28:51):
to see dirk in that space and then to go
out there and do what he did. In, the finals
man That was my That's my favorite dirk store because
him talking like that is out of, character FOR him
and i like him.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
In that space what's it like when you're behind shack
and somebody lobs it in and you know that he's
going to get the ball and then he's going to
turn right.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Into your chest it.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
Is, the worst like it's the worst feeling. In The World.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
Guarding Prime, SHACK prime Shack I mean dan I because
when i first got, Into the league SHACK was in
la And. Then, IN miami hey i never had fun
in THOSE cities because i never went out For The first, And,
god's like yo we're going. Out to, night i'm like.
I'LL see y'all i got a little something to. DEAL
with tomorrow i. CAN'T go out i will be embedd.
(29:35):
At nine o'clock because you have to Be. Ready for
shack you have to try to beat him, down the
court beat. Him to space but when to, answer your
question if he catches the ball in the paint with
two feet and, you're behind him you better wrap him
Up because big fella back in the day was. An absolute
problem he was gonna. Dunk that thing and the good
thing for ME is when i first got, into THE
league obviously I. Played with mj so, In those games
(29:59):
kobe would all always be trying to prove A. Point
To mj so shaq would wasn't even getting the ball
as Much did because kobe was trying to go off
LIKE and so, i was like at least it's, not my.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
GUY you know i think he hit this.
Speaker 13 (30:11):
For like forty in like A half in, La one
time so. It was crazy he was Trying to let
mike know that he's. The next one so a Lot
of times shaq didn't even get to get the ball
sometimes early on.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
In My career so Kobe's going At mike when mike
is at the end of his Career.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
With The wizards.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
Actually Stackhouse, is GUARDING kobe and i love stack but
there was nothing he Could do with.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
KOBE that, night i mean it was just he was.
Speaker 13 (30:34):
On one because you could Tell he was He's playing
against mike and he Wants to let mike know and
almost kind of Like how ant man Wanted To let
kevin durant know what was.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
Up last year that's.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
How it was but it's just we're watching it and
it's we just can't believe this Dude Is going jerry
stackhouse is. Playing excellent defense Kobe's is just kobe is
just in one of Those zones nothing stacked can, do with, Him,
AND uh kobe i want to say He dropped four
and if it's not forty, with thirty five but between
thirty five and forty and a, half on.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Us what's the best performance You Ever witnessed.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
Carmelo anthony SIXTY points when i Played For. The charlotte Huntings?
Did you carmelo did?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You guard, him.
Speaker 10 (31:12):
Oh, No, Oh, No, mike gilchris oh, You know What i'm.
TRIPPING tracy.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
McGrady i Forgot i forgot TRACY McGrady had i think He?
What was Tracy it's Either. Carmelo or tracy tracy had
SIXTY plus on Us, Two and carmelo and That was
when Tracy was In orlando and carmelo HAD. Sixty ON
us when i would uh, IN the garden i Would
probably say carmelo's because it was all mid Range jumpers
(31:38):
And michael kick gilchris got probably about forty of. Those
and So and when, carmelo gets. Hot there's nothing it's, all,
jab series, jabs pump fakes step. Through spin Moves it's when,
carmelo has sixty it's a lowed it's a loud sixty
because it's all one, On one ice so nobody's creating any.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Shots for him he is getting it all out the
mud and it is. A long Night.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
We've had jalen rose on whenever, it's you know the
eighty one Point anniversary with Kobe and so we called him,
all the time AND he says i didn't guard him.
The whole game he goes people make It seem like
kobe got eighty one on me when They.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Were, playing, toronto.
Speaker 13 (32:17):
Yeah listen you might not have guarded. The whole game
but if somebody gets drops, eighty and like let's just
say twenty five to thirty.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
Of them, were on you, people gonna acteck the whole
eighty one.
Speaker 13 (32:27):
Was on you just kind Of like when I'm talking
About carmelo And michael kid gilkers didn't get, the whole
sixty but he had to get knock thirty or, forty
of them thirty to forty.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Out of sixties it just feels like a.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Law all night i'm.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
Still trying to figure out why we didn't start doubling,
the triple people but it is.
Speaker 10 (32:43):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Still, bothers you hey great to. Talk to you thanks, For,
JOINING us, brendan.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
I, mean thanks man appreciate you. Having Me on.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Brendan haywood he won a Title, WITH the MAVs a
former first round Picked. By the, cavs you know You,
play with michael You, play with lebron play against.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
THOSE other guys i never.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Understand that though when a guy, is going off and He's,
right about carmelo how about we take them all out
of his. HANDS once again i didn't, like playing defense,
couldn't PLAY defense but i. Did understand defense and part
OF it is i don't want the best guy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
To beat me.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That, guy is now if you can handle The ball,
like kobe could you're Gonna, get in mike you could,
Get your. Shots tracy McGrady carmelo wasn't a. Great ball
handler he was Just had unbelievable he had moves in.
A phone booth, they were small little moves and all
he needed was just like a sliver of daylight and
(33:45):
he was going to hit that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Mid range jumper you.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Gotta work hard to get sixty in the mid range
Game because t mac was going up and. Down the floor,
but that's funny you're still. Thinking, About that Yeah mark t.
Speaker 11 (33:59):
Mac is one of those guys, where, it's like man you.
Forgot his run he had about a five year window
where he was Right there with kobe as far as
who was the best offensive player.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
In, the, League.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah yeah yeah he was one of those guys where you,
were just like that's different and what he could, have
been like he's another one. Of those guys and maybe
it's not fair because you saw, that much talent but, you,
always go god he could have been. So Much better
anthony hardaway could have. Changed the game he really when you,
(34:31):
were watching, him you're going, oh my god it. Was
just different then. He got hurt obviously you had the
friction with. Him In Shack, but anthony hardaway who's Not
In the Basketball.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
HALL of fame i don't think. He, is, not yeah
wow let me.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Take a break we will get to more phone calls
and Let's see What dad.
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Speaker 3 (35:30):
Your mind today.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Good morning guys how's?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
It?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Going great great so the Thing about, The cowboys is
i'm just, kind of wondering Why are we why.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
Are we talking?
Speaker 5 (35:45):
About, him then so, like you know like when your
kid gets hurt and you're not supposed to look at
him because it just makes it worse and they get more.
Attention about it we're just feeding The ego of Jerry.
And the cowboys so maybe just one thing is let's
just not.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
Talk about them that is?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
That, a possibility no because they have all This data
AT fox and espn and all, these different networks and
it says people want to Hear. About the, cowboys that's why,
because you know the information says fans want to Hear. About,
the cowboys now we try To approach the cowboys, when
(36:26):
it's warranted not. All else fails let's Talk about the
cowboys because it's really doing a disservice to some of
the other stories that you. Could BE covering but i
get IT because when I, worked at espn we, Played The,
Hits red sox yankees, all The time tarot owens, All
The time mike tyson. All the, time you know, after
a while you just you're. Numb to it but that's what.
(36:48):
The networks Do they get they hire people who, accumulate
this information data analytics and tells you, what is trending
what you should.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Be, talking ABOUT yes.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
And i think, that you know people hear what, you
just said and then they'll say Anytime that the cowboys,
say gets, mentioned, THEY'RE like oh i thought you weren't
going to Talk About the cowboys, and, you're like, Ohya,
hold on yeah what you're referring to Is a Random
tuesday in april Breaking down the cowboys secondary.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
For no reason that's when you're.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Squeezing it in but when you're talking about iconic sports
brands selling for, billions Of dollars the cowboys are a
natural extension, of that conversation Just like the yankees, Are And,
yeah manchester. United they're all they're global brands that. Are,
globally recognized yea.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
We will cover Lebron and The Browns and shador sanders,
and You Know the dallas cowboys. When IT'S warranted but
i don't go. Into the day we never go into
THE day going, i don't know let's just Talk.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
About the. Cowboys WE don't but i know, that it
happens and.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You consume it if you're flipping through the dial and all,
of a Sudden YOU know Steven a or pat McAfee's Talking,
about the cowboys then. Maybe you'll stop if they're talking,
about something else you. MIGHT not stop. I understand it
i just can't go into my show every day going
we have to. Talk about This Remember when The Mothership
and skip bayliss they had To Talk. About Tim, tebow
(38:15):
doug gottlieb when He left the mothership said they were
told To Somehow incorporate tim tebow.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
EVERY single day i.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Can't do that.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
It's Not fun, and, i'm sure hey ratings would be
better if you're, TALKING about, that i guess but that's not.
What we do we've always done it because we feel
like it's important to do, that story today or have
a guest on. That story. Today that's All and the
cowboys would come up because. It's a brand we Just
(38:44):
had the lakers, beat reporter say you You Know that
mark walder bought a brand he didn't get. There's no
building he bought a brand for, Ten billion dollars So
what's the? Cowboys Brand worth the YANKEES brand, work i
mean that's that's why we went to THAT because, if
I mean the cowboys are worth more than ten billion dollars, in, My.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Opinion yes ton all, that being.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Said what's Going On with michael Parsons?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And, The cowboys yeah i'm glad you really.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Should address it you?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Know, you're, right, no no no get him. A new
contract you, Should, have said okay how about That? SHOOT
or sanders i thought they said. He wasn't fast he
just got pulled over for going one oh one.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
In a sixty. That's, pretty fast yeah so what do
you want over?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
The?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Speed, limit yeah yeah so, he's not, fast but yeah
you got a. Speeding, Ticket Yesterday, seriously michael parsons What, Do.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
You yeah he's gonna be the highest paid NON quarterback.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
In nfl HISTORY that's. All i Know alan And, dayton
high allen what's?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
On?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Your, MIND hey.
Speaker 12 (39:50):
Dan i have A topic that i think is, very
very petty of non consequence and really unimportant that. Really,
Bothers me therefore i'd like to get your, Thoughts on it,
and that is How can the pacers who have tyreees
With zero and benedict? Has double zero isn't zero and
double zero, the same number and so don't you have
(40:13):
two players out there at one time with.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
The same number let me get some of my best.
People On, IT but alan i could understand why that. Would, Bother,
YOU yes ton i.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Don't think so doesn't the rule let we.
Speaker 11 (40:23):
All have a single zero on. A double zero i
think that should determine if there are two separate Numbers.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
In our paul ACCORDING, to the nba they changed the
rule back. In Two Thousand the Utah Jazz had greg,
oaster tag oh he. Had double zero he had to
change it to thirty nine because of old and polonies.
Having Oh, oh brendan haywood who we just had on
had to switch back, In The day.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Final hour, on the way, more phone calls more sharp,
insides like that and More Cowboys talk final Hour in
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hour two on this Thursday Basketball Tonight, Okase is favored
by six. On the road, it was four and a half.
And I think maybe the fact that we're not quite
sure about Tyrese Halliburton his availability. I know that Vegas
has downgraded the numbers that they expect from him. You
see seventeen and a half points over under now it's
thirteen and a half. The question is if he plays,
(00:27):
how much he plays, and then what does Okayse do
to retaliate? And I'd go right at him right from
the beginning. He's a slow starter, has been from throughout
this series, and I'd see what he has if he's
going to be out there. More on this coming up
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Why now, Genie Buss the family sells the Lakers to
Mark Walter the part of the Dodger ownership for ten
(01:11):
billion dollars. Dan Woiki, he is the Lakers beat writer
La Times joining us on the program. Dan, thanks for
joining us. Why sell? Why sell?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
The only answer I've been able to come up with
at this point is ten billion dollars. That's the answer,
and it's it's an interesting thing because that'll be the
thing that we learn here over the next few weeks,
a few months and stuff. No one from the Lakers
is still set a peep about this, right MATG. Sjohnson
(01:46):
kind of was the de facto spoke person. He's the
person that has you know, hands in the Mark Walter
cap obviously very close to Genie Buss. So we don't
totally know why. Here's what we do know. We know
that to sell the team, the way that the ownership
thing is structured, after doctor Jerry Buss died, a majority
of his six children needed to vote to sell, and
(02:07):
that majority never existed until yesterday. So that is I
think the interesting thing, right, is that always Genie was
running the team. You know, Jim was involved with the team.
He was the sort of executive. Bath Operations famously tried
to sue his sister to try to wrestle control of
the team. In twenty seventeen, the older siblings Johnny and
(02:30):
Janey not that involved. And you know, but but Joey
Buss runs the you know, salt A team, Jesse Buss
involved in the scouting department. These are people that have
day to day roles with the organization. And you know,
so I think that's kind of what's what we're learning
here A little bit is sort of how this played
out that way. It's an interesting not to get like
(02:52):
weigh in the weeds on like trust law, but it's
an interesting like part of the way their ownership is structured.
This was always sort of inevitable the way the deal
was structured, and was that you know, this sound morbid,
and I apologize, but if the oldest Bus sibling were
to die, it's not like those shares go to next
of kin. The tide just gets smaller. It goes from
(03:13):
being cut six ways to being cut five ways, and
then it goes to being cut four ways, and it
keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller, sort of a
last person standing type of situation, you know. And these
are people Genies in her mid sixties and stuff like that.
It just it's a lot of money there. It's a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
What's it mean for the Laker fan.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I think it's probably good news. It's a little less charming, right.
I think that was one of the things about the
Laker organization, especially if you were around the team and
you're a fan who goes to games and you see
you know, Genie bus and you could you used to
be able to tweet it or a lot when she's
really active on social media. It was like very she's
a very public person. I mean, it's a family business.
(03:57):
It truly is a family business, and I think it
will lose that and I'm not sure that's like good
in total for a league that is losing this all
the time because the money is just getting bigger and
bigger and bigger. But I mean, I think we can
it's fair to look to the Dodgers, right, And I'm
not I'm not suggesting they're going to pay show Heyo Tani,
(04:18):
you know, tw million dollars to play center next season,
Like that's not how this really works in the NBA.
But what you can do is you can pour that
money into everything else. You can pour that money into
your bench. You can pour that money into your analytics department,
you can pour that money into development, pour that money
into the arena. You know, the Lakers. That's another crazy
part of this deal, Dan, The Lakers don't own property.
(04:39):
It is like a brand, right, that is what you're
buying a lot of times when these evaluations come up
for teams, it's you know, they own their arena. Part
of the Warriors evaluation is they've got a huge piece
of real estate, you know, right on the Bay. That's
not the Lakers. The Lakers are at least the play
inside of Crypto dot com. Like, so this is a
(05:00):
fuel for the prean But but I think it's fair
to think that Mark Walter, the way that they've operated
the Dodgers, they're going to pour money into this in
all the places they can to give the team the
best chance to win consistently.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But you know, in baseball, you can overspend, can spend, yes,
but you can't outspend. I mean, you know the Golden
State Warriors did there for a while where they didn't
care about the luxury tax, but and then they changed
the rules.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes, right, yeah, and so yeah, I think I think
that part of it is overstated, right, Like, Look, the
Lakers were in the luxury tax. They're repeatedly in the
luxury tax. You can point to a couple of times
in recent history where maybe they cheaped out on something
famously kind of Alex Caruso is like one of those things.
(05:44):
And obviously that was bad decision, I think. But I
mean they're paying. They're not afraid to fire coaches and
keep paying salaries. I mean, it feels like we do
that every two years out here right now. You know,
that's not the issue. I will say when you talk
to people about the Lakers organization around the NBA, generally speaking,
the thing, the sort of really direct way people describe
(06:08):
that is it's a place that does the big things
really well, in the small things really poorly, and the
small things like they've been getting better at some of
the smaller things. But I think it's fair to point
to infrastructure when you talk about small things and like
things like beefing up a scouting department, you know, putting
more money into that, putting more people on the road,
(06:30):
stuff like that. You know, that's where, especially the way
the second apron is structured, you've got to hit on
your minimum signings you have to hit when you don't
have draft picks, you have to hit on your secon
round picks. They've drafted pretty well. They've done well with
the college cutting. Their prost cutting needs to get much
much better. And I think that's a place where Mark
Walter can put a lot of money into it, and
I think you can see a difference.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Talking to Dan Woik, the Lakers beat writer for the
La Times, what kind of moves in the off season
with the Lakers do you see?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, well, I didn't see new owner. I do see
new center. I think new Center is the is the
most obvious one. I know. You know the Lakers have
spoken with Luka Doncic multiple times kind of what that
could look like. They know that's a position he needs,
they know that's a position they need. Right. It's an
(07:20):
interesting kind of team building exercise for them because they
don't have a ton of assets. Stop me if you
heard this before about the Lakers. They need to get
better and they don't have a ton of ways to
get there. They have a first round pick that they
can trade either in twenty thirty one or twenty thirty two.
They've Dalton Connect, the first round pick from last year.
They've got some pick swops. This is I mean, this
(07:41):
is what they traded for Mark Williams before they staw
the physical right, so they have some stuff. I would
be looking at centers like kind of like Mark Williams
around the NBA though that has been sort of their type, right,
So like Jalender and anyakakong Wu in Atlanta, Walker Castler
in Utah, these are people that I think they're going
(08:03):
to try and target young senators who kind of fit
the next future. Now, whether or not any of these
players are available, Dan another thing, and do the Lakers,
you know, if you're not available, Like do the Lakers
have a ten billion dollar offer to make for Walker Kessler.
They don't, you know, unless they're going to trade Austin Reeves,
(08:23):
and they've shown no indication that they are going to
trade Austin Reeves. They believe in Austin Reeves. Lukadacich believes
in Austin Reeves. The best Dallas Maverick teams with Lukadacic
had three things. Generally, they had a good center, they
had athletic wings, and they had a secondary playmaker, Kyrie
Irving Jalen Brunson. So in neither of those guys a
(08:45):
Tony Allen either, Right when it comes to like locking
guys down on the perimeter so it can work. I
think that is sort of where they're at in terms
of trying to figure this out. Athletic wings definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
A big What about Lebron's future?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I mean, boy, you know, well, we know he's not
retiring via Amazon commercial. He put that to bed, you know,
tease that out last week. He's gonna be back. You know,
I think he is good enough to keep playing. He
had the player option at the end of this month,
early signs where that he would accept it. He may
(09:23):
opt out and resign as an unrecircuit free agent and
again kind of play this sort of signed me for
a two year extension, give me an option on the
back of that. You know, it's all signed points and
finishing his career as a Laker, and he's not done.
He was an All NBA player last year, played some
of the best defense I've seen him play as a
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Laker for a stretch, kind of that January to March stretch.
Then got hurt. I think the knee injury Dan is
an interesting injury. It's an interesting thing for him he
hasn't really dealt with something like this, And so you know,
as a forty year old, I'm a guy who woke
up this morning with a sore elbow. Somehow like this
happens at age Dan, and he yeah, you know, I
(10:07):
think he's going to take his time and get to
one hundred percent. It's but yeah, I mean he's a
part of their plans.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Good to talk to you. I know you're on vacation,
but I don't know you're ever truly the.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Surface of the sun here in Scottsdale, Arizona. Dan, it's
it's a two hundred and fifty degrees.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You're not truly on vacation. If you cover the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Never never not allowed to be Thank you, Dan makes sense,
Dan Wyki, he covers the Lakers for the LA Times.
That's one of those where and I remember trying to
take vacations when I would work at Sports Center. Then
all of a sudden something would happen. Then somebody would
say where are you? And I knew what that meant.
Are you capable of coming in to do Sports Center? Hey,
(10:47):
such and such just happened? Where are you? And then
my wife knew whenever I'd get the call and be like, uh.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Gotta go do Sports Center.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I got to leave you with these four kids under
the age of seven because I have to go do
Sports center.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Hunt.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yes, Paul, depending on which NBA team you're a beat
writer for, you could plan your vacation in late April, Yeah,
maybe May, maybe June. Oh, and the draft coming up. Yeah,
there's a couple of players I'm curious about. One is
one is Ace Bailey played at Rutgers.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now there's starting to get some information that's coming on
that he is not prepared when he goes to these interviews.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
He's dropping a little bit here.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, he's one of those guys who is unbelievably athletic.
First of all, they had him listed at six'. Ten
he's six.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Can we stop? Doing that because if everybody knows that you're,
doing it can we? Just stop, you, know like he's, Six,'
ten no he's six, He's six eight but you're and
he Was on a rutgers team, that You Know had
ron harper's, son on it, And You know dylan harper
might be this can?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
PLAYER take it, i Don't Know but.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Ace bailey is dropping a little bit and Some of
the some of the scouts are saying, he's not prepared.
He's showing up certain teams might not want to play
for but it. Might get interesting this is where he
drops a little bit and then somebody may.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Get A Bargain, with ace bailey.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Who's very talented but you're not that talented Because You
and dylan harper didn't get your TEAM into, the ncaa
tournament which is almost impossible to do if you have
two guys who are, a lottery bid two guys who
are probably. Top five. Picks Uh. Bad brendan haywood HE.
(12:44):
Covers the nba he won a Title With. The dallas mavericks,
he'll join, Us coming Up Tony, In, la hi tony
what's on?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Your?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Mind.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Today hey dan dodger fans are kind of upset About
this because dodger fans have been paying exorbitant prices for the,
past ten years and now they find out they've been
stashing money To. Buy, the lakers Like what do? Dodger
fans care Who? Owns the lakers their money's Going to.
The bus family Hopefully they lowered dodger Prices and raised
laker Prices and the laker fans could Pay back the
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walter for, buying their Team because the dodger fans don't
want to do it anymore now they find out what's.
Been going on and now we hear they may have
to build a new arena because that arena is no
good and hopefully they're not They're not using dodger money
to build. That, arena either.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well it probably all comes from the same, Cookie. Jar
THERE tony but i understand why you would be upset
when you realize you you bought a brand for. Ten
billion dollars you don't. Get The building goilden state, Has
the building you got that Property There. In san francisco
you bought a brand for. Ten billion dollars that is.
(13:51):
A powerful Brand. Mark In, Virginia Hi, mark.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Hey dan earlier you're Talking About And Steph. Lee's golden
state they're not going TO be probably i. Looked as
valuable my question is Where do the bulls stit in
with that? Analogy As well, since jordan's retired are the
bull and don as valuable or do you find them
still as like.
Speaker 10 (14:15):
A worldwide brand.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I don't think they're. A worldwide, brand i mean if
You do, see bulls gear it's, FROM the nineties i
don't think Anybody Was buying josh giddy gear Unless. You're
in Australia Even, WITH billy donovan i mean they've been.
Kind of average you, make the PLAYOFF but, they're i
mean it goes away because they're NOT.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
On national tv people aren't Talking, about the bulls and
the same thing Will Happen. With golden state you're just
not going to have that. Tune, IN factor yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
I THINK that the nba has something that's interesting that
it has a larger international audience for sure than probably
any other sport that we Play In. The united states
but the basketball jersey is such a. Fashion like statement
maybe it's something that you wear because you like the way,
that it looks and then having different. Ones is appealing
(15:10):
so you'll always sell a CERTAIN portion, of nba jerseys
whether they're, new or old just based on the fact
that people. Like WEARING them and i don't know that
you don't really do that as much with a baseball
jersey or, a football jersey but a basketball jersey.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You, definitely do yeah you'll see guys who, will wear
jersey but it might be because of a player, or
throwback jersey whereas you're not going to Have, A random
hey i'm going To get. A cowboys jersey Are you? A? Cowboy, Fan.
Speaker 11 (15:33):
NO yes marvin i think another thing IS also the
nba was so big on promoting the stars and. Not
the teams do you think that ended UP hurting the
nba when trying to. Build, NEW brands.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Well i think You were. A Bulls fan the bulls.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
HAD a, Brand i mean michael, had a Brand but
the bulls had a brand and that resonated. Around The
world the lakers that brand When you Had, shaq and
kobe that resonated.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Around the World, but the, bulls you.
Speaker 12 (16:02):
Know they're.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
NONDESCRIPT nobody cares i don't even know how you know
how highly they're Thought of in chicago because there's no.
REAL pulse, there i mean it's not hard to sell out,
a basketball, game BASKETBALL arena BUT i mean i don't
know if that's a great, indicator of boy that's still.
(16:23):
A strong brand i never Hear. About, The, Bulls yeah paul.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
And in basketball your brand can change in one day.
Speaker 12 (16:30):
With.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
One Person Yeah the orlando magic, went from hey this new. Boom,
shack worldwide Instance when when lebron Went. Back to cleveland
they went back to relevancy.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
In shortan day but that's where it would make Me
Nervous with golden state's evaluation because it just seems fluid
that if you, don't have stars what? Do you Have
And if golden state all, of a SUDDEN even though i,
love the jerseys but if they all of a sudden become,
An average team i'm a. Forty win team is that
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fan base still going to be there because. You're showing
up you had an owner who spent and you had
something we had never.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Seen before on. A basketball floor you're not going.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
To have that you may have an owner who still wants,
to spend money, but even then with, the new restrictions
you're not able to do that the way.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They once did they were. Like luxury tax. We don't
care we're trying.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
To. Win championships here we'll. Take a break we'll talk
to more. Basketball coming up more phone.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Calls as.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well good morning if You're, watching on peacock thank you for.
Downloading the app we'll. Take a break we're. Back After This.
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
Marvin just found this graphic and it says getting ready for.
The game tonight it, says game day and It's Got
three indiana. Pacers, on it well in case you're wondering
Of the three paers, Who Were there tyrese halliburton is
not part of tonight's game six graphic that says the
matchup and then it's going TO be on abc At.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Eight thirty eastern are we supposed to?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Read into That Marvin was tyrese halliburton on that graphic
that they'll show when they're promoting the game of the? Previous,
five games, indeed he was.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
M mm hmmm i thought they were trying to.
Speaker 11 (18:25):
SPREAD the wealth i was trying to give him the benefit.
Of The, doubt but nope who do we?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Have in this We Have Nemhard nie Smith Siakam or miles.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Turner In, There.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
Miles Turner Nie.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Smith Siakam okay brendan haywood won a Championship. With the
mavericks HE WORKS. For NBA tv should i Read into
That Brendan that tyrese halliburton isn't part of the promotional aspect.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
OF game six i.
Speaker 13 (18:57):
Think you can't i'm not saying definitely for but there
probably is a little bit of skepticism on.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
The pacer side this. Is their superstar we're talking.
Speaker 13 (19:07):
About a, calf type injury and anytime you start going
to that caf type injury and trying to, play through
it you have to think all the way back to
What Happened to kevin durant when he Played through his
and sometimes even THOUGH It's, the nba finals even though it's,
a huge moment you have to think big picture and
if this is a, serious calf injury you do not
want a calf injury to turn into something a. Lot
more serious i'm not one, hundred percent sure but there's
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definitely conversations being had Right Now about tyre's halliburn's health
because he did not look right.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
In game five could.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You see a scenario where he. Doesn't.
Speaker 13 (19:37):
Play tonight yes if he goes out there and he
tests the calf and he, can't move well then you
have to, shut him down no matter how big. The
game is if we go back to what happened earlier,
In these Playoffs I'm sure steph curry Wanted to play
grade one and a. Half hamstring injury you have to
protect the player, sometimes from himself and you have to
think about long term of what could happen if you
(20:00):
come back and you're not right and you do more
damage to a.
Speaker 10 (20:03):
Soft tissue injury.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Could it be a good Thing for the pacers if.
He doesn't, play absolutely.
Speaker 13 (20:09):
Not absolutely Not They need, tyre's halliburn man and they need,
him healthy too not just out there with. His jersey
on they need him out there, creating a, problem pushing
tempo getting in the, pick and, roll getting downhill getting two.
Feet into paint he doesn't always have, to score it
but he has to be a part. Of the problem
and if he's not right or not, able to play
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it's going to. Be really tough just look AT what
this okc team is done defensively as far As turning.
The pacers over think about How many turnover think about
how men turnovers they'll have They'll.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
Force if tyree's. Haliburn, doesn't play YEAH but IF.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I am tj McConnell out there, handling THE ball then
i keep It away From Nemhard and nie smith because they.
Were a, turnover you know they were turning the ball
OVER there, AND i wonder i don't want him out
there if he's fifty. OR sixty percent i don't want
you to be a hero and be it and evens
a detriment. To the team in the second half of,
THAT last game i Was Surprised that rick carlisle put.
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Him out there you're down double. Digits, at halftime.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
Well you' also have to understand guys get used, to
certain things and you. Look at it you look at
a Guy, Like Nim, hard nie SMITH more, importantly tj
McConnell you just. Brought him up he's used to playing
a certain. Amount of minutes he plays with a certain.
Level of energy he's always. Pushing and probing he's not
used to playing forty minutes, forty five minutes and so
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like he's exhausted after that third quarter he. Was he's
tired so, Now, it's like okay we're Trying. To get
halliburton then maybe we'll get McConnell back. In the game
but The problem with halliburton not playing is that it
puts everybody in. A different role so now you look
at A guy. Like tj McConnell instead of him being,
the energy guy now he has to come in and. Start,
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right away now who's gonna be the point? Guard behind
him now we're getting even deeper into, that PACER's bench
and that's what. The PROBLEM is but i do, agree
with you if hallow burden, is fifty Percent he should
he probably shouldn't go out there because he probably can't.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Help the team Who does j sga?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Remind you of.
Speaker 13 (22:09):
He not, apples for apples but if you look at
what he does in, the mid range a lot of
times he has The. Footwork of kobe i'm Not. SAYING
he's kobe i don't Want nobody on twitter. COMING from
ME i know i know how people how sensitive people
get about their stars from back. In the day but
when you look, at the footwork the, up and unders
the pump fakes, and everything else he Reminds. Me of
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kobe and he lives in that mid Range. Like a
kobe kobe wasn't really a great three point shoot if
you look, at the, numbers but man what he did
in the mid range with special and that's Kind of
what sga. Reminds me of but a new school version
because he's more he's like a point.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Guard As Well and moan schumpert was with us yesterday
And he said.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
KOBE as well.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
I mean it's.
Speaker 13 (22:49):
EASY to see i mean there's some there's some there's some,
video out there the footwork, side by side, and, you're like.
Speaker 10 (22:55):
Wow it's scary you can tell That He.
Speaker 13 (22:58):
Studied kobe bryant he watched a Lot of what kobe
does and he's just perfected that. Mid range game Shout
Out to sam cassell who actually started him down that
path his rookie year when he Was. With The clippers
and sam was one of the best mid range guys
from back. In THE day and sga has always worked
on his mid range Game Ever since sam cassell put
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him in that space and and it's really.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
Really showing today.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So You, played with Lebron, played with Michael? Played, against
kobe yeah how would how would you? Assess those players.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
All great Players kobe and michael were one and the
same as, far, as game. Mentality everything else lebron is,
a different, entity not, better not worse but his thought
process and how he sees the. Game is Different Kobe
and Michael. Carbon copies lebron lebron is is different and
(23:58):
even how he from the way he put the way
he sees the game the way he goes about things
on and. Off the, Court, You know Michael michael and.
Kobe are, cutthroat you know if you ain't if You
Can't help, michael jordan win he really ain't got No
time for i'm trying TO tell you i saw. That
first hend if You Can't help michael jordan, win basketball
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game he don't have any, time for you and he
will say it directly. To Your face lebron james is
a little. Bit more diplomatic he might send you a subtle.
A subtle message he might try to see if you'll slowly.
Pick It up and i've got to see that firsthand
With Him and Kyrie Irving, and dion waiters and he
he was trying to coach them to see if they
would eventually figure out how to win. At this level mike's.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Not that tight but we keep trying to make that comparison,
or that Argument, and It's. Michael it's lebron can you
make A case that kobe is every bit The equal
that michael is and then maybe he should be involved?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
In that, discussion, IS.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Well man I see that you're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Me.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
In trouble, man you know you know how sensitive people Are.
Speaker 13 (25:06):
ABOUT their God I, love kobe bryant, rest in peace
one of the BEST players that i. Ever played against
but when you start, nitpicking the stars you Probably can't
put kobe in the Same level As michael and lebron
when you look at, the total MVPs when you look
at just even the when you look, at the finals
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you have to go look At some of kobe's earlies
finals performances against the nets that. Wasn't really, great you
know He had big fellow with him early on. IN
his career i mean that that counts for a lot
when you got the when you got the big, dog
in there.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
He, was the SHACK was the mvp of the.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
First THREE finals So.
Speaker 13 (25:44):
I love kobe he is top, Ten FOR sure but
i think when you talk about the best three players,
of all time it's Actually, Not it's Mike.
Speaker 10 (25:54):
Bron and kareem, in, My opinion.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah kareem might be the greatest player.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Of ALL time if i, in, high school COLLEGE, in
the nba he might be the. Greatest greatest, player you
know single handedly had a move, that was unstoppable and
he won everywhere, That HE went and i kind of. Find,
him underrated brandon it's weird to say that we kind
Of forget because kareem won a title and it really
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wasn't you Know when When larry and, magic came IN that's,
when tv Started and then, mike came in, and you
know it JUST. Changed the nba those who played, prior
to that some of those championships and their.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Greatness, was lost, yeah YOU.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
Know, Like, i said, kareem you know he had The.
Speaker 13 (26:37):
Championship, in milwaukee then like, You talked About magic and
larry took the game. To another level and then you
also have to look at The fact that kareem wasn't loved,
by the media so he doesn't get he never got,
the same, push you know and so. It's different now
There was no internet and There was no twitter or anything.
Else like that media had to push you to, a
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Certain degree and koree didn't, have that love so he
didn't get pushed quite like some of the other stars back. In,
the day yeah don't. Get it twisted, like you said that's.
A good.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
Point, was unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah that's a Great point that kareem didn't care if,
you liked him and he didn't go out of His way.
To curry favor We're Talking. To brendan haywood HE'S WORKING.
For nba tv you were A Teammate of dirk noavisky
his forty seventh, Birthday to, day oh.
Speaker 10 (27:24):
Man happy birthday he dirt, GETTING old man.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What's Your favorite? Dirk novitsky Story my?
Speaker 10 (27:33):
Favorite dirk story.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And how many news did you take to your chest
when you were trying to guard him with that fade away.
Speaker 13 (27:42):
JUMPER of his, i never really, You know what he
never really had to meet me. In the chest he
used to just get in my body, and fade away
and it used to just frustrate me that he would
get that jumper.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Off ON me but i Think my favorite dirk story
is WE'RE In.
Speaker 13 (27:57):
The nba finals it's, before the finals and, because it
was it's my favorite story because it's Not really. Who
dirk is he has, that quiet confidence but the way
he said it made me look, at, him like okay
big fellas really with the smoke and we're Taking On
the big three and we're talking. About the game we're in,
the locker room we're talking. About the matchup we're Going.
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Against The heatos Obviously lebron D Wade and chris bosh, and,
we're like yeah what we're gonna do To Stop? The
big three and he's just like That ain't no big
three and we kind of, Look at, him.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
We're like what.
Speaker 13 (28:29):
Do you, Mean he's like i'm look at. It like
that if they Were really a big three, and off
season they would have came. And GOT me and, i,
was Like okay because dirk don't, talk like that so
like and he, Really meant it and AT that time
i didn't know he kind of had like a simmering
Beef with d wade from six and the guys kind
of caught me, up, on, it like yeah he don't
really have no Love, For d wade and so Like
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to see dirk in that space and then to go
out there and do what he did. In, the finals
man That was my That's my favorite dirk store because
him talking like that is out of, character FOR him
and i like him.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
In that space what's it like when you're behind shack
and somebody lobs it in and you know that he's
going to get the ball and then he's going to
turn right.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Into your chest it.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
Is, the worst like it's the worst feeling. In The World.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
Guarding Prime, SHACK prime Shack I mean dan I because
when i first got, Into the league SHACK was in
la And. Then, IN miami hey i never had fun
in THOSE cities because i never went out For The first, And,
god's like yo we're going. Out to, night i'm like.
I'LL see y'all i got a little something to. DEAL
with tomorrow i. CAN'T go out i will be embedd.
(29:35):
At nine o'clock because you have to Be. Ready for
shack you have to try to beat him, down the
court beat. Him to space but when to, answer your
question if he catches the ball in the paint with
two feet and, you're behind him you better wrap him
Up because big fella back in the day was. An absolute
problem he was gonna. Dunk that thing and the good
thing for ME is when i first got, into THE
league obviously I. Played with mj so, In those games
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kobe would all always be trying to prove A. Point
To mj so shaq would wasn't even getting the ball
as Much did because kobe was trying to go off
LIKE and so, i was like at least it's, not my.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
GUY you know i think he hit this.
Speaker 13 (30:11):
For like forty in like A half in, La one
time so. It was crazy he was Trying to let
mike know that he's. The next one so a Lot
of times shaq didn't even get to get the ball
sometimes early on.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
In My career so Kobe's going At mike when mike
is at the end of his Career.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
With The wizards.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
Actually Stackhouse, is GUARDING kobe and i love stack but
there was nothing he Could do with.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
KOBE that, night i mean it was just he was.
Speaker 13 (30:34):
On one because you could Tell he was He's playing
against mike and he Wants to let mike know and
almost kind of Like how ant man Wanted To let
kevin durant know what was.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
Up last year that's.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
How it was but it's just we're watching it and
it's we just can't believe this Dude Is going jerry
stackhouse is. Playing excellent defense Kobe's is just kobe is
just in one of Those zones nothing stacked can, do with, Him,
AND uh kobe i want to say He dropped four
and if it's not forty, with thirty five but between
thirty five and forty and a, half on.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Us what's the best performance You Ever witnessed.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
Carmelo anthony SIXTY points when i Played For. The charlotte Huntings?
Did you carmelo did?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You guard, him.
Speaker 10 (31:12):
Oh, No, Oh, No, mike gilchris oh, You know What i'm.
TRIPPING tracy.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
McGrady i Forgot i forgot TRACY McGrady had i think He?
What was Tracy it's Either. Carmelo or tracy tracy had
SIXTY plus on Us, Two and carmelo and That was
when Tracy was In orlando and carmelo HAD. Sixty ON
us when i would uh, IN the garden i Would
probably say carmelo's because it was all mid Range jumpers
(31:38):
And michael kick gilchris got probably about forty of. Those
and So and when, carmelo gets. Hot there's nothing it's, all,
jab series, jabs pump fakes step. Through spin Moves it's when,
carmelo has sixty it's a lowed it's a loud sixty
because it's all one, On one ice so nobody's creating any.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Shots for him he is getting it all out the
mud and it is. A long Night.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
We've had jalen rose on whenever, it's you know the
eighty one Point anniversary with Kobe and so we called him,
all the time AND he says i didn't guard him.
The whole game he goes people make It seem like
kobe got eighty one on me when They.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Were, playing, toronto.
Speaker 13 (32:17):
Yeah listen you might not have guarded. The whole game
but if somebody gets drops, eighty and like let's just
say twenty five to thirty.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
Of them, were on you, people gonna acteck the whole
eighty one.
Speaker 13 (32:27):
Was on you just kind Of like when I'm talking
About carmelo And michael kid gilkers didn't get, the whole
sixty but he had to get knock thirty or, forty
of them thirty to forty.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
Out of sixties it just feels like a.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Law all night i'm.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
Still trying to figure out why we didn't start doubling,
the triple people but it is.
Speaker 10 (32:43):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Still, bothers you hey great to. Talk to you thanks, For,
JOINING us, brendan.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
I, mean thanks man appreciate you. Having Me on.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Brendan haywood he won a Title, WITH the MAVs a
former first round Picked. By the, cavs you know You,
play with michael You, play with lebron play against.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
THOSE other guys i never.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Understand that though when a guy, is going off and He's,
right about carmelo how about we take them all out
of his. HANDS once again i didn't, like playing defense,
couldn't PLAY defense but i. Did understand defense and part
OF it is i don't want the best guy.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
To beat me.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
That, guy is now if you can handle The ball,
like kobe could you're Gonna, get in mike you could,
Get your. Shots tracy McGrady carmelo wasn't a. Great ball
handler he was Just had unbelievable he had moves in.
A phone booth, they were small little moves and all
he needed was just like a sliver of daylight and
(33:45):
he was going to hit that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Mid range jumper you.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Gotta work hard to get sixty in the mid range
Game because t mac was going up and. Down the floor,
but that's funny you're still. Thinking, About that Yeah mark t.
Speaker 11 (33:59):
Mac is one of those guys, where, it's like man you.
Forgot his run he had about a five year window
where he was Right there with kobe as far as
who was the best offensive player.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
In, the, League.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah yeah yeah he was one of those guys where you,
were just like that's different and what he could, have
been like he's another one. Of those guys and maybe
it's not fair because you saw, that much talent but, you,
always go god he could have been. So Much better
anthony hardaway could have. Changed the game he really when you,
(34:31):
were watching, him you're going, oh my god it. Was
just different then. He got hurt obviously you had the
friction with. Him In Shack, but anthony hardaway who's Not
In the Basketball.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
HALL of fame i don't think. He, is, not yeah
wow let me.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Take a break we will get to more phone calls
and Let's see What dad.
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Com Chris, And, iowa hi chris what's on?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Your mind today.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Good morning guys how's?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
It?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Going great great so the Thing about, The cowboys is
i'm just, kind of wondering Why are we why.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
Are we talking?
Speaker 5 (35:45):
About, him then so, like you know like when your
kid gets hurt and you're not supposed to look at
him because it just makes it worse and they get more.
Attention about it we're just feeding The ego of Jerry.
And the cowboys so maybe just one thing is let's
just not.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
Talk about them that is?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
That, a possibility no because they have all This data
AT fox and espn and all, these different networks and
it says people want to Hear. About the, cowboys that's why,
because you know the information says fans want to Hear. About,
the cowboys now we try To approach the cowboys, when
(36:26):
it's warranted not. All else fails let's Talk about the
cowboys because it's really doing a disservice to some of
the other stories that you. Could BE covering but i
get IT because when I, worked at espn we, Played The,
Hits red sox yankees, all The time tarot owens, All
The time mike tyson. All the, time you know, after
a while you just you're. Numb to it but that's what.
(36:48):
The networks Do they get they hire people who, accumulate
this information data analytics and tells you, what is trending
what you should.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Be, talking ABOUT yes.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
And i think, that you know people hear what, you
just said and then they'll say Anytime that the cowboys,
say gets, mentioned, THEY'RE like oh i thought you weren't
going to Talk About the cowboys, and, you're like, Ohya,
hold on yeah what you're referring to Is a Random
tuesday in april Breaking down the cowboys secondary.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
For no reason that's when you're.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Squeezing it in but when you're talking about iconic sports
brands selling for, billions Of dollars the cowboys are a
natural extension, of that conversation Just like the yankees, Are And,
yeah manchester. United they're all they're global brands that. Are,
globally recognized yea.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
We will cover Lebron and The Browns and shador sanders,
and You Know the dallas cowboys. When IT'S warranted but
i don't go. Into the day we never go into
THE day going, i don't know let's just Talk.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
About the. Cowboys WE don't but i know, that it
happens and.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
You consume it if you're flipping through the dial and all,
of a Sudden YOU know Steven a or pat McAfee's Talking,
about the cowboys then. Maybe you'll stop if they're talking,
about something else you. MIGHT not stop. I understand it
i just can't go into my show every day going
we have to. Talk about This Remember when The Mothership
and skip bayliss they had To Talk. About Tim, tebow
(38:15):
doug gottlieb when He left the mothership said they were
told To Somehow incorporate tim tebow.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
EVERY single day i.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Can't do that.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
It's Not fun, and, i'm sure hey ratings would be
better if you're, TALKING about, that i guess but that's not.
What we do we've always done it because we feel
like it's important to do, that story today or have
a guest on. That story. Today that's All and the
cowboys would come up because. It's a brand we Just
(38:44):
had the lakers, beat reporter say you You Know that
mark walder bought a brand he didn't get. There's no
building he bought a brand for, Ten billion dollars So
what's the? Cowboys Brand worth the YANKEES brand, work i
mean that's that's why we went to THAT because, if
I mean the cowboys are worth more than ten billion dollars, in, My.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Opinion yes ton all, that being.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Said what's Going On with michael Parsons?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And, The cowboys yeah i'm glad you really.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Should address it you?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Know, you're, right, no no no get him. A new
contract you, Should, have said okay how about That? SHOOT
or sanders i thought they said. He wasn't fast he
just got pulled over for going one oh one.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
In a sixty. That's, pretty fast yeah so what do
you want over?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
The?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Speed, limit yeah yeah so, he's not, fast but yeah
you got a. Speeding, Ticket Yesterday, seriously michael parsons What, Do.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
You yeah he's gonna be the highest paid NON quarterback.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
In nfl HISTORY that's. All i Know alan And, dayton
high allen what's?
Speaker 2 (39:48):
On?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Your, MIND hey.
Speaker 12 (39:50):
Dan i have A topic that i think is, very
very petty of non consequence and really unimportant that. Really,
Bothers me therefore i'd like to get your, Thoughts on it,
and that is How can the pacers who have tyreees
With zero and benedict? Has double zero isn't zero and
double zero, the same number and so don't you have
(40:13):
two players out there at one time with.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
The same number let me get some of my best.
People On, IT but alan i could understand why that. Would, Bother,
YOU yes ton i.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Don't think so doesn't the rule let we.
Speaker 11 (40:23):
All have a single zero on. A double zero i
think that should determine if there are two separate Numbers.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
In our paul ACCORDING, to the nba they changed the
rule back. In Two Thousand the Utah Jazz had greg,
oaster tag oh he. Had double zero he had to
change it to thirty nine because of old and polonies.
Having Oh, oh brendan haywood who we just had on
had to switch back, In The day.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Final hour, on the way, more phone calls more sharp,
insides like that and More Cowboys talk final Hour in
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