December 10, 2025 • 41 mins
ESPN's Domonique Foxworth calls the Packers and Rams the only two teams that truly look "Super Bowl ready," and sees the Chiefs' issues stemming from costly drops and a fading defense. Dan reacts to some interesting MLB Hall of Fame news and examines what it means to the legacies of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Philip Rivers is on the practice squad. That doesn't mean
he's on the roster, and that is the big difference
here with the Hall of Fame. Once he's on an
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active roster, then we turn the clock ahead to five
more years for Philip Rivers. He's a semi finalist for
the Hall of Fame Dominic Foxworth former defensive back. He
is on loan from the Mothership. In a little bit,
we'll talk to him about moving forward with Philip Rivers
and we'll look at his Hall of Fame resume. Is
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he helping herting and also who's more of a Hall
of Famer Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers question that old
question age seven to seven three DP show email address, DPA,
Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. Paul Finebaum
of the Mothership will join us a little bit later
on as well. Notre Dame and the ACC and the
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Big Twelve. Everybody jab in one another here, athletic director
at Notre Dame, the commissioner in Big Twelve, commissioner of
the ACC. I'm fine with this. It's content and I
don't have a dog in the fight. But it's been
interesting to hear people's thoughts on this and not holding
back of the dislike of Notre Dame by a lot
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of media members. So much for being unbiased or and
martial with this. You can't let that cloud your judgment
here with this, I mean you can. You have to
be honest if you take out the names and just
be honest with the situation, and then you might have
a different opinion of that. The other stuff, Notre Dame
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thinking they're bigger than everybody else, or all of those things,
they're all valid. But the College Football Playoff Committee saying
there is a provision now and this is the version
of an automatic qualifier. So Notre Dame got what other conferences,
you know, being an automatic qualifier that if they're in
the top twelve then they will be in the college
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football playoffs next year. Here's something to keep an eye on.
And it's been kind of quiet here the NCAA slow
march towards expanding march madness. Okay, the NCBA president Charlie
Baker made it clear this week a decision has to
come by this April. So there's a proposal that will
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take it from sixty eight to as many as seventy
six and that would start the following season. I don't
have any information on this. I'm following it as you
might be. But is there going to be expansion? Yes,
how many I don't know and when I don't know,
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But there will be expansion. And what they're going to
do is they're probably going to beef up these so
called play in games first four and you're gonna have
more games on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then you get
into the tournament on Thursday. I don't know why they
sort of say you're in the tournament, but you're not
in the tournament. Just make it. This is the first round.
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It's okay, you know you're in the tournament kind of,
but you got to win this game and then you
get in. Okay, they're playing games. Okay. I think they're
going to get rid of the playing games, or at
least that label, and just make it these are first
round games, yes, Martin.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But if they keep continuing with like the first four,
if you win your conference, you do not have to
play in that the first force for those bubble teams
that just barely got into the tournament. Yeah, you shouldn't
have to go and play the first four. Bubble team
you won the conference tournament should be able to play
on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah. I feel bad for those teams because you're kind
of it's like you're invited to a party, but you
have to stay outside. You know, you get to look
in the window and we'll get your beer. Oh you
want hot dog, we'll bring it out. Beat it can't
come in, can't come in. Didn't a Rod have that
quote when I said, if I went to your house,
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you know, would I be able to find you? Know?
Where would I find your MVP or whatever? And he goes, well,
I wouldn't let you in. You'd have to stay on
the porch, yes he said, and I'm like, oh, okay,
still a little frosty at me. By the way, something
really quiet that happened, and that was the Barry Bonds
not getting into the Hall of Fame. Roger Clement's not
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getting into the Hall of Fame, but Jeff Kent got
into the Hall of Fame, Barry Bonds teammate. This is see,
this is where it gets tricky. Jeff Kent and his
numbers are great. I have no problem with him being
a Hall of Famer. Okay, no problem. He benefited from
Barry Bonds being in the lineup, batting behind him or
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in front of him. So I'm not saying that, you know,
there's any cloud of controversy steroids with Jeff kat but
he does benefit from Barry Bonds being in the lineup.
And it's you know, that's where it gets tricky, where
you're trying to assess careers individually in a team sport.
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And I know Alex Rodriguez came out and said, well, hey,
if you're not going to have me, and then why
do you have Bud Seely again, he was the commissioner
when all the steroid stuff happened. I know for a fact,
And I had private conversations with Bud Ceely and he said, damn,
there's nothing I can do against the players Union now
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the Baseball Players Association. That union is one of the
strongest unions, or at least it was with Donald fear
in America. And he said, I can't. I can't do
anything with the testing. And then he decided to test
in the minor leagues. So it's not like he said
I'm turning a blind eye to this. I know for
a fact having a conversation with him where he said
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there's nothing I can do. That's why he went to
the minor leagues and he started testing there as almost
a preemptive strike. But Alex Rodriguez shouldn't be in the
Hall of Fame. And if you say, well, the commissioner
shouldn't be in, Okay you don't want put him in,
I don't care. But that doesn't mean ayrod deserves to
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be in. But I do know for a fact the
commissioner said his hands were tied and he couldn't do
anything about that in the major leagues. I know that
for a fact. But that's why he went to the
minor leagues. So a Rod trying his campaign trail the
fact that he's in baseball. He should be thankful that
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Fox hired him to be in baseball, given everything that
he did to the sport, said about the sport and
the commission and getting suspended. But yeah, the Hall of Fame,
you know, it's done with bonds and clements. But Jeff
Kent got in. I was hoping Don Mattingly would get
in and maybe maybe one of these days. But Jeff
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Kent got into the Hall of Fame. And this was
that Veterans Committee, I believe, and I think you had
to have a maximum or there a certain minimum number
of votes might have been ten, maybe I don't know
the exact number. But Jeff Kent quietly going into the
Baseball Hall of Fame. Yeah, pauling quietly is the right word.
Jeff Kent was a really good ballplayer for six or
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seven years, five All Star appearances. The MVP helps a ton,
but he's a two ninety hitter, three seventy seven home
runs in seventeen years. He feels like more first ballot
Hall of very good that we talked about. But is
this I'm answer my question. The byproduct of the stereoid era.
Adrian Beltray gets in, Jeff Kent gets in, Harold Bains
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gets in. They have to put some people in. Yeah,
and those guys were borderline. But you don't have to
put people in. There's no minimum like the you know,
the Pro Football Hall of Fame, they have minimums. Baseball.
I remember Bruce Souter got in one year. He was
the only guy who got in. I like that. It's difficult,
but I'm glad that I don't vote on anything like this.
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I mean, I grind over the Heisman. I couldn't imagine,
like this is the ultimate. This is your life, the
rest of your life. You're a Hall of Fame. That
guy's a Hall of Famer. He gets to go to
the ceremony each year. Having that in your hands when
you're voting on this, now, that's heavy lifting, yes, Marva.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And the thing about the MVP in Major League Baseball
is it means less as far as getting into the
Hall of Fame than any other sport. Don Matteleie Dale, Murphy,
Wan Gonzalez. I just named it three MVP awards. Two
of those guys have two MVP awards and not even
sniffing the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah. If this is football, you got two, he's your
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, Paul, I don't get not anti Jeff Kent, but
Jeff Kent. Five All Stars, one MVP. Go back to again.
We talked about Steve Garby two different teams. Ten All
Star appearances, ten, ten of twelve for inst number one
for the MVP one time and top five twice. Yeah,
and that doesn't make any sense a clear MVP.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And he wasn't even on the ballot there. And once again,
I don't know the intricacies the minutia involved in this
and who's voting and how many are voting and how
do you get on that ballot? But yeah, Jeff Kent
quietly going into the Baseball Hall of Fame. All right,
poll question for hour two, seatan, what are we going
to go with? I got a couple here from Paul.
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Retired athlete you most want to see comeback and play
for a full health, obviously prime condition. His options here
are Bojacks and Michael Jordan, Dwight Gooden, or Wayne Gretzky.
I'd rather have Wayne just read the countries in the
World Cup draw. That was a true contest right there.
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I don't know that we saw the great one there either. Yeah, okay,
that that whole ceremony was drawn out. It was like
an hour too long. And I'm falling asleep watching it,
like okay, And then Reno gets up there and he's
gonna watch the World Cup draw. I did watch some
of it. That's amazing. Yeah. Yes, my my future son
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in law is a big soccer guy. Yeah, well right
now he's the future son in law. I don't know,
maybe it doesn't last. I don't know. I did catch
him watching the Premier League over the weekend. Yes, sounds
like you got a good one there. I know. I
walked into a room at my house and I go,
what are you doing? He goes watching soccer? I go okay,
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he goes, you don't want to watch? I go, no,
tell me how it ends. But uh yeah, when Weno
had Curasol. Now, granted, I think if you see Curasal,
you're probably gonna go Kura Cowie or something like that,
you know, and that's not a given. But I gotta
have Wayne being, you know, in a in a room
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where we go over all the name, these are the
names they're gonna have Wayne all of them. Well, he
wasn't doing the whole thing. I would just say, hey,
here's here's a couple of tricky ones as are by
John Canada, give him Canada, Yeah, Sri Lanka, Yes.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Currasau and I don't know if I've got it right.
It's probably the toughest to pronounce on the fly because
it's a very confusing looking word. There's c's where s's
should be.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, and that's where baseball players are, don't we have
a couple of currousel great?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Is that Andrew Jones from Kurrousel. I have to get
Mario the eyes and ears of the program. By the way,
Mets fans in the building were sobbing yesterday. Edwin Diaz
is going to the Dodgers. That's not fair. Yeah, Anthony
and Mario who sit in the same room. Oh, they
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were weeping. Grown men, well not grown men, but men,
and they were weeping. It's not fair that it's going
to lead to a lockout and then we're gonna have
a salary Cavin. Edwin Diaz joining the Dodgers, Yes.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Marvin Andrew Jones from CURSEO.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Okay, all right. It comes back to me occasionally in Caraco. Yeah,
kuh yeah, Pully.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, Wayne Gretzky, he wasn't going to class at age,
you know, high school. He wasn't taking geography classes. He
was scoring ninety eight goals in the junior league. I
love that he doesn't ought to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, but you would think somebody would say, hey, guys, uh,
let's go through the names here in case anybody's got
you know, a couple of tricky ones here, right, there's
a couple of tricky ones here. Way, Wayne, Wayne, a
couple of tricky ones. I want to take a look
at the Yes, I.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Think it's fair to take a slap shot out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You gotta prepare.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Someone's got to prepare.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Who Uh, let me see Murphy and Georgia. Hi, Murph,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
How you're doing?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I wanted to know what did this independent thing start
with Notre Dame?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And secondly, what do you get.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
From being in a Hall of Fame?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Is there any compensation?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, they do make money at signing events, but it's
not like you get a bonus in your contract.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Notre name has never been in a league. I don't think, Paully,
do you have when they form their independence.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Notre Dame started playing football in eighteen eighty seven, and
there were some like conferences ish in the early before
the twenties, but since the nineteen twenties they've been independent.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Any school can become independent if you want. BYU used
to be independent, but you lose the structure, the support
that you have scheduling financial stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Notre Dame is the one school that can do this
and has chosen to do this, you know. But once again,
BYU used to be independent. Let me see one more
caller in here, how about Jamie from Virginia Beach.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Hi, jam Yeah, good morning, Dan, thanks for taking my call. Yeah,
I just I just want to go back and what
you said earlier in the show about the Notre Dame
story not going away rightfully, So it shouldn't go away.
Those guys. Those guys are in the spot top twelve.
I'm a Michigan guy. I can care less about another Dame.
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But more importantly is how the Alabama situation went away
so quickly. I mean, just isn't the Alabama team of
ten years ago, you know, five years ago where they
would barely lose one game a season and Now they're
losing three last two seasons, on the verge of missing
a playoffs twice this year, and I don't think the
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committee was going to allow them to miss it this
year regardless.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, could you imagine Greg Sankee if Alabama got jumped
and didn't make it, he'd be screaming two. That's why
I said, you know, put it into your conference and
how would you react? How would the Big twelve commissioner
react if BYU got jumped by Miami in the rankings
and didn't make the College Football Playoff? He'd be shouting
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from the mountaintops. He would not say, Hey, this is
what we signed up for. So as much as there
is a dislike, a hatred for Notre Dame, put your
school in that situation and see how you would react
the other stuff, the other stuff, go at it. I
couldn't care less about you know, we're going to pull
out of the ACC or the pettiness or you know
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the ACC was against us. I mean I sided with
the ACC because the ACC has to protect Miami is
a full fledged ACC member. Notre Dame is not, and
I would be fighting for Miami over Notre Dame. Now,
I don't know what was said. I think that's what
Pete Levaca with the Athletic Director was hinting at, Like
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what was said in that three hour discussion from what
I'm told, and I'm still trying to find that out.
What exactly did the acc say about Notre Dame. That's
what I'm curious about, because it feels like that's what
Petelebaca was hinting at that, you know, the things they
said about Notre Dame in that discussion and the fallout
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from that. All right, well, take a break. Is Philip
Rivers a first Elean Hall of Famer? Is he a
Hall of Famer? Is he hurting his Hall of Fame
status by trying to play again? Dominique Foxworth from the
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This week, Patriots hosts the Bills, Broncos hosting the Packers.
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former NFL defensive back Dominic Foxworth joining us on the program.
We spent a little bit of time, maybe too much time,
talking about Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers Hall of Famer, a
semi finalist for the Hall of Fame this year, and
then we brought in Matt Ryan as well. So if
you had to choose between Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers
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Hall of Famer, who would you pick.
Speaker 11 (18:41):
Yeah, it's so hard to get into the Pro Football
Hall of Ape. I think since it's only like thirteen guys,
like since the nineties that have gotten in since like
the early nineties at quarterback, that.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Is, Okay, whose career would you want?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
You put me on a spot. So Matt Ryan obviously
one MVP was all pro. Philip Rivers was probably better longer,
but never wasn't all pro, but that might be a
result of the people in his conference, and never won
an MVP.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I gotta be.
Speaker 11 (19:12):
Honest, just off.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
The top of my head, I think Philip Rivers.
Speaker 11 (19:16):
I think of Philip Rivers as a better quarterback, but
I also know that the numbers don't really support that.
There's a huge difference between the two of them. And
also Matt Ryan's made it to a super Bowl and
lost one. But I think ultimately I think we respect
Philip rivers career more than we do Matt Ryan. So
if you give me one, I think I'd rather have
Matt Ryan. Ok excuse me, I'd rather have Philip Rivers.
Matthew Stafford first ball and Hall of Famer. Nah, I
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mean not first ballot. I think he wins another one
this year, then we're talking first ballot. I think obviously,
this is a team sport, and as much as it sucks,
you want the Hall of Fame to be an individual
award as great as he's been, Like, his team's success
just came kind of late. So I think one more
he's probably first ballot, but with just one Super Bowl
and like the end of his career really defining his career,
I don't think he's first ballot.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
He might be MVP this year.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yeah, of course it's hardar you asked me a guy
whose career is still going on, which I guess Philip
rivers career still going on too, Matt Ryan, if you stop,
if you stop Matt Ryan today, I'd say, not first ballot.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'm just gonna be Matt Stafford, not first ballot.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
He wins the MVP this year, wins another Super Bowl,
then of course first ballot.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
How does this work out for Philip Rivers and the colt.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Poorly, I don't know.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
Like, as much as he's older than me, and as
much as I would want older guys, I played against
Philip Rivers a bunch in college back when Maryland was
in acc and a bunch when I was in Denver
and he was in San Diego. So like, obviously I'm
rooting for the older guy to have success, But it's
really fast and it's really hard. And his career didn't
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end because he was tired of playing football. His career
ended because he was not producing. So I'm not sure
what some time off, some rest is gonna do, but
I don't imagine that it's going to go all that well.
I think probably better off when Riley Leonard gets healthy
or I don't know someone who's actually been playing for ball.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I know he's been coaching, but it's so fast.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
It's so violent, and we see Aaron Rodgers who hasn't
stopped playing, like obviously the threat of getting hit has
changed the way that he plays. I'm assuming that Philip
Rivers is a normal human being and he's gonna be
a little skittich.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, okay, explain that to me that you can see
that Rogers he's different now because he's afraid of getting hit.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean in said he's afraid of getting hit.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
Makes it feel insulting, like he's a reasonable person and
he can't move the way that he didn't normally move, Like, yeah,
you're that willingness to hold onto the ball for half
a second longer and have a two hundred and fifty
pounds super athlete jump through your.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Chin is it changes.
Speaker 11 (21:48):
It changes a lot when it hurts a little bit
more and when you're not as explosive, and also when
you don't feel like you're in contention in the way
that you once were. So I think I'm not the
only one who noticed it. Like we all see it.
He's more quick to get rid of the ball. And
the reason why I think he had good numbers last
week is because the Ravens can't rush the passer. As
soon as you get someone who can rust the passer,
you'll see the Aaron Rodgers that we've seen most of
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this season return.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Who's the one quarterback though that above everybody else was
gonna stay in there and he was gonna take the hit. Man.
Speaker 11 (22:22):
I think like Young Drew Brees as a guy that
got hit a bunch and was willing to stay in there.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:30):
He And again this goes back to him in San
Diego and earlier in his career. I think he later
in his career with the shoulder injury or assuming the
elbow injury and the age, his offense turned into quick
pass stuff. But like that is something that stands out
in my mind. Of course, Steve Young was a guy
from growing up watching him and Brady is definitely that
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guy who was able to do that. He didn't do
it nearly as much in Tampa, but was willing to
stand in there and take those shots.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Dang. I'm always amazed though, when we usually see the
end result, we don't see that quarterback getting smashed. It's like,
right before he's gonna get hit, and then we all
did a complete touchdown, and you know, meanwhile he's getting
a spatula in there, you know, peeling him off the
aster turf.
Speaker 11 (23:16):
We don't appreciate how hard does it, even when we
pointed out it's impossible. I think, and I played football,
I don't think that it's ever hurt nearly as bad
as that, and they just hop right up. Doesn't matter
how big you're like, we see it over time. Cam
Newton might be the most impressive looking physical person ever
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in life, even eventually his body broke down. Because you
can only take so many of those.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
They hurt.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
And I know we've all seen the sports sciences. It's
like the car crashes. All of us might have been
in accidents of different level. Like just imagine that. Ten
times a week you get into something like that. It's
going to catch up to you eventually.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The Chiefs the Dolphins have the same record. Does that
bring it into reality of you know, we keep going,
yeah they got fifteen, as long as you got fifteen
there and their records shame as the Dolphins.
Speaker 11 (24:13):
It's funny because it feels like lazy analysis, but like
fifteen's proven that we should respect him. But yeah, they've
been the same team for the past two or three
years with differing levels of defense, and we all thought
we were extra smart when we were like, but look,
it's gonna catch up to them, and it didn't catch
up to them.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It finally has caught up to him.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Like the drop passes, Like, of course, these guys are
professional football players. They're not gonna drop a lot of
passes and they're going to have penalties. Like these things
gonna happen. It just felt like in those situations it
always went their way in the past. And then of course,
if you're in a close game, that's when the value
of a quarterback goes up. So this team survived a
lot beating teams that were better than them because of
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good fortune, good coaching, and a great quarterback, and ultimately
it caught up them.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Talking to Dominic Foxworth, host of The Dominic Foxworth Show,
ESPN writer and contributor, former NFL defenship back, who's a
great team this year?
Speaker 11 (25:11):
Yeah, I think I would say the Packers and the
Rams are the teams that I would look at and say,
these are super Bowl caliber teams. Sometimes teams that don't
look like super Bowl caliber teams end up winning the
super Bowl. It happens probably a couple times a decade, two, three,
four times a decade.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That could certainly happen this year.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
No one in the AFC do I look at and say, oh, yeah,
they're definitely. I'll show them and I can guarantee they'll
be at least in the conference game, and it'll be
a fluke if they don't make it. I feel like
I would say that if the Packers or the Rams
don't make it out of the.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
NFC, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
It'd be some sort of flucish streak that someone got
hot and ripped off of Joe Flacco style run, and
I would be surprised by it. But everybody else is
so flawed in important ways.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Does the NFL have a long field goal problem?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, it hasn't gotten there.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
Yet for me, Like, I get the point that you're making,
but I also feel like, combined with the change and
the kickoff rules and the aggressiveness on fourth down, I
think the incentive to kick a long field goal is
still not really that overwhelming. Like I think right now
we're kind of in a sweet spot where guys are
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likely to go forward, teams are likely to go for
it on fourth down. It feels like even within the five,
we've had more teams go for it on fourth down,
which is what I want. Like, I love the suspense
of a last second field goal, but I like it
at the last second. If you're in the red zone
in the third quarter, I want you to go. I
want you to throw the ball. I want you to
play football and not kick.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Could you see maybe raising the crossbar at some point,
Like you know, we had to do this with the
extra point because it became formulaic, But can you see
the NFL doing something that will discourage or maybe say
he encourage you to go for something instead of trying
to kick a field goal.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I could see it happen.
Speaker 11 (27:06):
And again I haven't seen the numbers from this season,
so but I don't get the sense that it's become
a problem. And I think when you score, if you
kick a field goal or you score a touchdown the kickoffs,
I know the starting position has moved up for a
lot of teams, so it doesn't feel like as good
of a proposition to give up three points and then
(27:27):
give them the ball on the thirty five they get
one first down and they're in field goal range again.
So like, I still don't feel like we're there, but
if we get there, the NFL will have no problem
change in the rule.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
But I'm not sure that they would move to crossbar.
They're smarter than that.
Speaker 11 (27:40):
I think they would do something outside of making a
more obvious change, because that's when we get upset, when
it's something we can see and bothers us Like they
tweak the rules to a certain extent that changes the
incentive structure the way that I'm talking about. Maybe they
moved the kickoff where they moved the kickoff up even
or back even further so that it even more extensual.
It's the idea that if you score, it better be
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worth it because you're gonna give the other team the
ball at midfield. That's worth seven points, that's not worth three.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Why don't we have lasers going up the goal post,
because like, I mean, no, it's it. It can be
an exact science, right. They choose not to make it
an exact science.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
Because we didn't build I think the idea that this
was going to be a thing that happened. Those uprights
they were so high. No one was kicking over them
at any point. I think putting lasers at the top
of the uprights that turn on at for field goals
and extra points might be something worth doing that we
wouldn't change or use the the chip that's in the ball,
but nobody was kicking it over the uprights before the past.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's a new thing, okay, but now they aren't. I mean,
you could do fun colors there. This is this is
we're in the entertainment business here.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I mean, you are betraying the gray hair that you have.
It's like, what are we doing. I thought that you're
supposed to you're a future guy. You want AI referees. Yeah,
I would have assumed.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
So I'm the old guy the cribunch and it's like,
don't put lasers on my field, Like I want football,
Let's run the ball three yards cloud of dust.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I added this great here. I actually have darg care
I put this on.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
It's beautiful. I like it. I need to get something.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
If you will, it's coming your way. Do you have
any thoughts on the college football playoffs?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:28):
I mean it's funny that we're arguing about these teams
that I think don't have a chance of getting in.
But I think ultimately, while we do focus, we zero
in on these like.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
These micro issues.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
The macro issue is that college football is trying to
build these new structures on top of a faulty foundation.
And as long as we have these conferences where the
talent is so like, the talent differential is so disparate.
There's only twelve games, so you're not gonna get a
good idea of who's actually good and who's actually bad.
(30:01):
There's no way to solve this. There's not a playoff
bracket big enough I think to get an actual champ.
Like we're in the between. We're trying to build a
professional league on top of these amateur structures, and until
we like restructure all of it and then there are
clear conferences where we know who's good and who's bad.
In the NFL, because they all play teams that are
(30:23):
all around the same level. We don't really know in college,
and then even in the playoffs, you're looking at the
consistency of kids who are eighteen to twenty four, Like,
I can't think of anyone less trustworthy than a man
eighteen to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Good to catch up with you. Good, Thank you, Dominic,
No problem, Dan, Thank you. Dominic Foxworth, host of The
Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN contributor from our NFL defenship Back
Johnny and Pittsburgh. Hey Johnny, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Hey guys A sixty three two, sixty three, ninety tenth,
I have a whose career would you rather have? And
then a quick follow up on the Notre Dame Briak
New Heizel comments from yesterday. First of all, I would
only ask this from your show because of the totality
(31:13):
of your wisdom on this show and this panel.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But warn Moon.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Or Jim Kelly and think about the totality of their careers. Secondly,
New Heiswell comments were awesome. I love that dude, and
he makes a lot of great points. And one thing
I'm gonna say is, think about the Mown Invitational. Think
about all these tournaments college hoops have to get you
excited about the upcoming season. Football doesn't necessarily need it.
(31:41):
But in order to have bowl games instead of like
irrelevant matchups week one, Week two like Toledo or Youngstown
State or whatever, no offense, make them, make them bowl games.
And you know, if Notre Dame is, I think also
works like a little chaos, and Notre Dame is going
(32:02):
to be chaotic going forward for more reasons than one.
They are setting a president with this NAL money and
break you know, touched.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
On it yesterday.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
This NAL money, this is only going to get exacerbated
the further we go.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, and I'm all in favor of putting the bowl
games to start the year to ensure that you get
quality matchups. Maybe you get a matchup that you're facing
somebody that you wouldn't normally face, you get promotional fallout
from that. It's going to be in September. The weather
will be fine, And it's just like college basketball. They
do this every year. Nobody goes all the acc and
(32:41):
the Big ten are playing. Oh that's terrible, No, it's not.
It's great.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, Marvin, I think the big issue is going to
be all those ball games over Christmas break, So programming
ESPN depends on.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
That program absolutely, And there's so many people.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Bowl games on the twenty seventh, twenty eight, twenty ninth,
the thirtieth of December, when people are off, they're off
for the holidays. It's going to be so tough to
try to fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I realize having been at the Mothership, the importance of
college football with those bowl games, and you get that
entire month that you own and the filler that's there.
We got bull games coming up Friday, I think, so
they're already starting, and maybe we do know your bowl
(33:25):
games on Friday. Yeah, but it's starting already. This is
what the Mothership, and they will fight. They will fight this. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
There's nothing more in disingenuous on social media where people
say I don't watch any of the ball games. Nobody
cares about the bowl games. The ratings are always really good.
People watch, even their exhibitions.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, they watch. It's a filler. We're looking for something.
We watch machin on Tuesday night. Do you have the
first Bowl game on Friday, paul.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Of course, I do. I think I think the first
one is Saturday afternoon or noon. The Cricket Clebration.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Okay, it's really good with the bands South Carolina State,
Prairie Review, A and M.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Can they tell us when the bands are going to
be on the field.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'll text you that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
We can just tune in for that. Yes, all right,
let me take a break. More phone calls coming up,
Paul Fine bamb we'll join us in about a half
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watched the new it's being called an Adam Sandler movie.
It's it's George Clooney. It's called Ja Kelling and it's
about George Clooney. Adam Sandler kind of plays his PR person,
(34:52):
his handler there and they're you know, this is where
you go oscar buzz for Sandler. It's a crime. Get
nominated for uncut Chips. That that was criminal. He was.
He was spectacular in that movie, and it was a
great movie as well. I don't want, I mean, I
want him to get nominated just because I want to
(35:13):
see him there. I mean, the guys made films that
have made over, you know, a couple of billion dollars,
and he can't act. He is a really talented person.
It just feels like he got pigeonholed into. Oh he's
that guy. He's that goofy guy, you know, bathroom humor.
But then you see him act and then you go, no,
he can't act, and he's really good in this movie.
(35:35):
So is George Clooning, by the way. But Sandman, maybe
he gets nominated. I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yes, Marvin, I was shocked because I always thought the
cheek code for the Oscars was a comedian that plays
a dramatic role like Robin Williams or Monique. They want
Oscars because they're comics, and he did something dramatic. I
thought he was a shoeing to be nominated.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, I was prize that uncut gems. He didn't get
nominated because I mean, I thought that he was good
enough to win. But sometimes when you're in the Best
Supporting Actor that's when you get your opportunity, you know,
because George Clooney will be the Best Actor category if
he gets nominated. Samman may be best Supporting Actor. Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I found a couple of articles variety other places, and
they said that best Actor uncut Gems was a little
tougher for Sandler, exactly what you said. This would be
best Supporting Actor for j Kelly. And there's some pretty
big names.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, but still.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Benicio del Toro, it's a hammer.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I don't want to mess with him.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Sean Penn's up there, yikes. Okay, but those guys have
probably won before, right del Toro?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, I think both of them have.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, I think I think there would be hoarders.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah. And it doesn't mean anything to Sean Penn another
Academy word. It doesn't mean anything. No, he didn't care. Man.
Remember when he would be fighting the Rozzi when he
was dating or married to Madonna. It felt like he
got into a fight every other week. I mean, what
(37:09):
did you exp I mean they're waiting for you. She's
the most famous woman on the planet at the time,
and you're married to her, and you're like, no, he'd
be fighting anybody, everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yes, he calmed down when he married Jenny for Forrest
Gump kind of cooled out, became a great actor, won
a bunch of oscars.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
All good. Yeah, young Sean Payn a little while.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah yeah, kind of crazy. Who is that that he made?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Robin Wright?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Oh, Robin Right.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Greatest villain in movie history.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh yeah, oh with Forrest Gump, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Jenny
was not a good person.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
She was awful.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
She had some baggage to be fair, as you could
see in the movie. But she strung him along for decades.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, poor guy.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
And then was like, okay, fine, we could do it.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, now, but you and your billions we could find
and now that you're a billionaire, we can finally do this.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
But also I'm dying.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's some realism that story.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, yeah, thank you Jah.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
This is your son.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah Force, he got a daddy en Force too, because
it ain't mine.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It was Lieutenant Dayan, great Lieutenant Dayan. Let's see, Oh,
Wayne Gretzky at the World Cup. We talked about this.
We gotta do it, Okay, Paulie Goes, come on, you
gotta do it. I know you're friends with Gretzky. All right.
(38:36):
If I was with Wayne, then I could make fun
of him about that, and then PAULI goes, oh, come on,
it's thirty seconds. It's so. Here's Wayne at the World
Cup draw trying to pronounce a couple of countries.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
Okay, we got the winner of Denmark, North Macedonia, checked
the Republic of Ireland, winner between Italy, Northern Ireland, Wales,
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Caracos, the winner of the Iraq, Bolivia
(39:12):
and Sir Nam.
Speaker 11 (39:14):
When you're doing a great job and next bofe.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
We're all confused up here.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
There as well.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Great job practice in this one off morning, the winner
between Turkeia, Romania, Slovakia and Kosovo.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You're doing a great job up there, Wayne, I like,
just keep pushing through, buddy, And he said he was
practicing all morning long. I thought it was just a
cold hair. Here's the names. How many did he miss pronounce?
How many open net goals did he miss?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I got him twelve for fifteen from the.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Field, Well for fifteen, yeah, yes, Todd. The fans went
nuts when he said Macedonia. Okay, I see what you
did there? Did he call it? Did he say turqu
He said Turkey? Uh, Turkey.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I think I think that's right Ish Turkey.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And the Curas. How I get Okay, you know wayneos
was busy scoring, you know, eighty goals a year. He
didn't have time to books and countries and things like that.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Geography.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, it didn't care about that, Yes, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
And Wayne Gretzky did attend high school. But it could
have been that must have been a joke. He's being recruited,
he signed.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, he wasn't going to school. He went to school
on your team, on your goal.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
He schooled you.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, we should actually changed in that name of Karasau
to whatever Wayne Gretzky says it is.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
He wants to say, it's Karaco, your Kraco.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, he's probably right.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, Yeah, you guys are wrong, You're wrong. I'm the
great one. Okay. Two hours of the books, one more
to go. Paul Feinbah he called Notre Dame of Bunch
of cry Babies. Paul join us coming up in a
half hour. More of your phone calls as well a
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Philip Rivers is on the practice squad. That doesn't mean
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here with the Hall of Fame. Once he's on an
(00:42):
active roster, then we turn the clock ahead to five
more years for Philip Rivers. He's a semi finalist for
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is on loan from the Mothership. In a little bit,
we'll talk to him about moving forward with Philip Rivers
and we'll look at his Hall of Fame resume. Is
(01:03):
he helping herting and also who's more of a Hall
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of the Mothership will join us a little bit later
on as well. Notre Dame and the ACC and the
(01:24):
Big Twelve. Everybody jab in one another here, athletic director
at Notre Dame, the commissioner in Big Twelve, commissioner of
the ACC. I'm fine with this. It's content and I
don't have a dog in the fight. But it's been
interesting to hear people's thoughts on this and not holding
back of the dislike of Notre Dame by a lot
(01:47):
of media members. So much for being unbiased or and
martial with this. You can't let that cloud your judgment
here with this, I mean you can. You have to
be honest if you take out the names and just
be honest with the situation, and then you might have
a different opinion of that. The other stuff, Notre Dame
(02:07):
thinking they're bigger than everybody else, or all of those things,
they're all valid. But the College Football Playoff Committee saying
there is a provision now and this is the version
of an automatic qualifier. So Notre Dame got what other conferences,
you know, being an automatic qualifier that if they're in
the top twelve then they will be in the college
(02:28):
football playoffs next year. Here's something to keep an eye on.
And it's been kind of quiet here the NCAA slow
march towards expanding march madness. Okay, the NCBA president Charlie
Baker made it clear this week a decision has to
come by this April. So there's a proposal that will
(02:49):
take it from sixty eight to as many as seventy
six and that would start the following season. I don't
have any information on this. I'm following it as you
might be. But is there going to be expansion? Yes,
how many I don't know and when I don't know,
(03:09):
But there will be expansion. And what they're going to
do is they're probably going to beef up these so
called play in games first four and you're gonna have
more games on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then you get
into the tournament on Thursday. I don't know why they
sort of say you're in the tournament, but you're not
in the tournament. Just make it. This is the first round.
(03:29):
It's okay, you know you're in the tournament kind of,
but you got to win this game and then you
get in. Okay, they're playing games. Okay. I think they're
going to get rid of the playing games, or at
least that label, and just make it these are first
round games, yes, Martin.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But if they keep continuing with like the first four,
if you win your conference, you do not have to
play in that the first force for those bubble teams
that just barely got into the tournament. Yeah, you shouldn't
have to go and play the first four. Bubble team
you won the conference tournament should be able to play
on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah. I feel bad for those teams because you're kind
of it's like you're invited to a party, but you
have to stay outside. You know, you get to look
in the window and we'll get your beer. Oh you
want hot dog, we'll bring it out. Beat it can't
come in, can't come in. Didn't a Rod have that
quote when I said, if I went to your house,
(04:24):
you know, would I be able to find you? Know?
Where would I find your MVP or whatever? And he goes, well,
I wouldn't let you in. You'd have to stay on
the porch, yes he said, and I'm like, oh, okay,
still a little frosty at me. By the way, something
really quiet that happened, and that was the Barry Bonds
not getting into the Hall of Fame. Roger Clement's not
(04:45):
getting into the Hall of Fame, but Jeff Kent got
into the Hall of Fame, Barry Bonds teammate. This is see,
this is where it gets tricky. Jeff Kent and his
numbers are great. I have no problem with him being
a Hall of Famer. Okay, no problem. He benefited from
Barry Bonds being in the lineup, batting behind him or
(05:07):
in front of him. So I'm not saying that, you know,
there's any cloud of controversy steroids with Jeff kat but
he does benefit from Barry Bonds being in the lineup.
And it's you know, that's where it gets tricky, where
you're trying to assess careers individually in a team sport.
(05:29):
And I know Alex Rodriguez came out and said, well, hey,
if you're not going to have me, and then why
do you have Bud Seely again, he was the commissioner
when all the steroid stuff happened. I know for a fact,
And I had private conversations with Bud Ceely and he said, damn,
there's nothing I can do against the players Union now
(05:49):
the Baseball Players Association. That union is one of the
strongest unions, or at least it was with Donald fear
in America. And he said, I can't. I can't do
anything with the testing. And then he decided to test
in the minor leagues. So it's not like he said
I'm turning a blind eye to this. I know for
a fact having a conversation with him where he said
(06:12):
there's nothing I can do. That's why he went to
the minor leagues and he started testing there as almost
a preemptive strike. But Alex Rodriguez shouldn't be in the
Hall of Fame. And if you say, well, the commissioner
shouldn't be in, Okay you don't want put him in,
I don't care. But that doesn't mean ayrod deserves to
(06:32):
be in. But I do know for a fact the
commissioner said his hands were tied and he couldn't do
anything about that in the major leagues. I know that
for a fact. But that's why he went to the
minor leagues. So a Rod trying his campaign trail the
fact that he's in baseball. He should be thankful that
(06:53):
Fox hired him to be in baseball, given everything that
he did to the sport, said about the sport and
the commission and getting suspended. But yeah, the Hall of Fame,
you know, it's done with bonds and clements. But Jeff
Kent got in. I was hoping Don Mattingly would get
in and maybe maybe one of these days. But Jeff
(07:17):
Kent got into the Hall of Fame. And this was
that Veterans Committee, I believe, and I think you had
to have a maximum or there a certain minimum number
of votes might have been ten, maybe I don't know
the exact number. But Jeff Kent quietly going into the
Baseball Hall of Fame. Yeah, pauling quietly is the right word.
Jeff Kent was a really good ballplayer for six or
(07:37):
seven years, five All Star appearances. The MVP helps a ton,
but he's a two ninety hitter, three seventy seven home
runs in seventeen years. He feels like more first ballot
Hall of very good that we talked about. But is
this I'm answer my question. The byproduct of the stereoid era.
Adrian Beltray gets in, Jeff Kent gets in, Harold Bains
(07:58):
gets in. They have to put some people in. Yeah,
and those guys were borderline. But you don't have to
put people in. There's no minimum like the you know,
the Pro Football Hall of Fame, they have minimums. Baseball.
I remember Bruce Souter got in one year. He was
the only guy who got in. I like that. It's difficult,
but I'm glad that I don't vote on anything like this.
(08:19):
I mean, I grind over the Heisman. I couldn't imagine,
like this is the ultimate. This is your life, the
rest of your life. You're a Hall of Fame. That
guy's a Hall of Famer. He gets to go to
the ceremony each year. Having that in your hands when
you're voting on this, now, that's heavy lifting, yes, Marva.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And the thing about the MVP in Major League Baseball
is it means less as far as getting into the
Hall of Fame than any other sport. Don Matteleie Dale, Murphy,
Wan Gonzalez. I just named it three MVP awards. Two
of those guys have two MVP awards and not even
sniffing the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah. If this is football, you got two, he's your
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, Paul, I don't get not anti Jeff Kent, but
Jeff Kent. Five All Stars, one MVP. Go back to again.
We talked about Steve Garby two different teams. Ten All
Star appearances, ten, ten of twelve for inst number one
for the MVP one time and top five twice. Yeah,
and that doesn't make any sense a clear MVP.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And he wasn't even on the ballot there. And once again,
I don't know the intricacies the minutia involved in this
and who's voting and how many are voting and how
do you get on that ballot? But yeah, Jeff Kent
quietly going into the Baseball Hall of Fame. All right,
poll question for hour two, seatan, what are we going
to go with? I got a couple here from Paul.
(09:48):
Retired athlete you most want to see comeback and play
for a full health, obviously prime condition. His options here
are Bojacks and Michael Jordan, Dwight Gooden, or Wayne Gretzky.
I'd rather have Wayne just read the countries in the
World Cup draw. That was a true contest right there.
(10:13):
I don't know that we saw the great one there either. Yeah, okay,
that that whole ceremony was drawn out. It was like
an hour too long. And I'm falling asleep watching it,
like okay, And then Reno gets up there and he's
gonna watch the World Cup draw. I did watch some
of it. That's amazing. Yeah. Yes, my my future son
(10:34):
in law is a big soccer guy. Yeah, well right
now he's the future son in law. I don't know,
maybe it doesn't last. I don't know. I did catch
him watching the Premier League over the weekend. Yes, sounds
like you got a good one there. I know. I
walked into a room at my house and I go,
what are you doing? He goes watching soccer? I go okay,
(10:56):
he goes, you don't want to watch? I go, no,
tell me how it ends. But uh yeah, when Weno
had Curasol. Now, granted, I think if you see Curasal,
you're probably gonna go Kura Cowie or something like that,
you know, and that's not a given. But I gotta
have Wayne being, you know, in a in a room
(11:17):
where we go over all the name, these are the
names they're gonna have Wayne all of them. Well, he
wasn't doing the whole thing. I would just say, hey,
here's here's a couple of tricky ones as are by
John Canada, give him Canada, Yeah, Sri Lanka, Yes.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Currasau and I don't know if I've got it right.
It's probably the toughest to pronounce on the fly because
it's a very confusing looking word. There's c's where s's
should be.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, and that's where baseball players are, don't we have
a couple of currousel great?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Is that Andrew Jones from Kurrousel. I have to get
Mario the eyes and ears of the program. By the way,
Mets fans in the building were sobbing yesterday. Edwin Diaz
is going to the Dodgers. That's not fair. Yeah, Anthony
and Mario who sit in the same room. Oh, they
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were weeping. Grown men, well not grown men, but men,
and they were weeping. It's not fair that it's going
to lead to a lockout and then we're gonna have
a salary Cavin. Edwin Diaz joining the Dodgers, Yes.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Marvin Andrew Jones from CURSEO.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Okay, all right. It comes back to me occasionally in Caraco. Yeah,
kuh yeah, Pully.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, Wayne Gretzky, he wasn't going to class at age,
you know, high school. He wasn't taking geography classes. He
was scoring ninety eight goals in the junior league. I
love that he doesn't ought to pronounce it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, but you would think somebody would say, hey, guys, uh,
let's go through the names here in case anybody's got
you know, a couple of tricky ones here, right, there's
a couple of tricky ones here. Way, Wayne, Wayne, a
couple of tricky ones. I want to take a look
at the Yes, I.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Think it's fair to take a slap shot out.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You gotta prepare.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Someone's got to prepare.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Who Uh, let me see Murphy and Georgia. Hi, Murph,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
How you're doing?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I wanted to know what did this independent thing start
with Notre Dame?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And secondly, what do you get.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
From being in a Hall of Fame?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Is there any compensation?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, they do make money at signing events, but it's
not like you get a bonus in your contract.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Notre name has never been in a league. I don't think, Paully,
do you have when they form their independence.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Notre Dame started playing football in eighteen eighty seven, and
there were some like conferences ish in the early before
the twenties, but since the nineteen twenties they've been independent.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Any school can become independent if you want. BYU used
to be independent, but you lose the structure, the support
that you have scheduling financial stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Notre Dame is the one school that can do this
and has chosen to do this, you know. But once again,
BYU used to be independent. Let me see one more
caller in here, how about Jamie from Virginia Beach.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Hi, jam Yeah, good morning, Dan, thanks for taking my call. Yeah,
I just I just want to go back and what
you said earlier in the show about the Notre Dame
story not going away rightfully, So it shouldn't go away.
Those guys. Those guys are in the spot top twelve.
I'm a Michigan guy. I can care less about another Dame.
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But more importantly is how the Alabama situation went away
so quickly. I mean, just isn't the Alabama team of
ten years ago, you know, five years ago where they
would barely lose one game a season and Now they're
losing three last two seasons, on the verge of missing
a playoffs twice this year, and I don't think the
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committee was going to allow them to miss it this
year regardless.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, could you imagine Greg Sankee if Alabama got jumped
and didn't make it, he'd be screaming two. That's why
I said, you know, put it into your conference and
how would you react? How would the Big twelve commissioner
react if BYU got jumped by Miami in the rankings
and didn't make the College Football Playoff? He'd be shouting
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from the mountaintops. He would not say, Hey, this is
what we signed up for. So as much as there
is a dislike, a hatred for Notre Dame, put your
school in that situation and see how you would react
the other stuff, the other stuff, go at it. I
couldn't care less about you know, we're going to pull
out of the ACC or the pettiness or you know
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the ACC was against us. I mean I sided with
the ACC because the ACC has to protect Miami is
a full fledged ACC member. Notre Dame is not, and
I would be fighting for Miami over Notre Dame. Now,
I don't know what was said. I think that's what
Pete Levaca with the Athletic Director was hinting at, Like
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what was said in that three hour discussion from what
I'm told, and I'm still trying to find that out.
What exactly did the acc say about Notre Dame. That's
what I'm curious about, because it feels like that's what
Petelebaca was hinting at that, you know, the things they
said about Notre Dame in that discussion and the fallout
(16:56):
from that. All right, well, take a break. Is Philip
Rivers a first Elean Hall of Famer? Is he a
Hall of Famer? Is he hurting his Hall of Fame
status by trying to play again? Dominique Foxworth from the
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More phone calls coming up. Our good buddy Ross Tucker
just sent out a tweet. The two teams were the
best records in the NFL, the Patriots and Broncos, both
being underdogs at home to teams with less than ten wins.
This week, Patriots hosts the Bills, Broncos hosting the Packers.
He is the host of The Dominic Foxworth Show. ESPN writer, commentator,
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former NFL defensive back Dominic Foxworth joining us on the program.
We spent a little bit of time, maybe too much time,
talking about Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers Hall of Famer, a
semi finalist for the Hall of Fame this year, and
then we brought in Matt Ryan as well. So if
you had to choose between Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers
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Hall of Famer, who would you pick.
Speaker 11 (18:41):
Yeah, it's so hard to get into the Pro Football
Hall of Ape. I think since it's only like thirteen guys,
like since the nineties that have gotten in since like
the early nineties at quarterback, that.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Is, Okay, whose career would you want?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
You put me on a spot. So Matt Ryan obviously
one MVP was all pro. Philip Rivers was probably better longer,
but never wasn't all pro, but that might be a
result of the people in his conference, and never won
an MVP.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I gotta be.
Speaker 11 (19:12):
Honest, just off.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
The top of my head, I think Philip Rivers.
Speaker 11 (19:16):
I think of Philip Rivers as a better quarterback, but
I also know that the numbers don't really support that.
There's a huge difference between the two of them. And
also Matt Ryan's made it to a super Bowl and
lost one. But I think ultimately I think we respect
Philip rivers career more than we do Matt Ryan. So
if you give me one, I think I'd rather have
Matt Ryan. Ok excuse me, I'd rather have Philip Rivers.
Matthew Stafford first ball and Hall of Famer. Nah, I
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mean not first ballot. I think he wins another one
this year, then we're talking first ballot. I think obviously,
this is a team sport, and as much as it sucks,
you want the Hall of Fame to be an individual
award as great as he's been, Like, his team's success
just came kind of late. So I think one more
he's probably first ballot, but with just one Super Bowl
and like the end of his career really defining his career,
I don't think he's first ballot.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
He might be MVP this year.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Yeah, of course it's hardar you asked me a guy
whose career is still going on, which I guess Philip
rivers career still going on too, Matt Ryan, if you stop,
if you stop Matt Ryan today, I'd say, not first ballot.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'm just gonna be Matt Stafford, not first ballot.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
He wins the MVP this year, wins another Super Bowl,
then of course first ballot.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
How does this work out for Philip Rivers and the colt.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Poorly, I don't know.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
Like, as much as he's older than me, and as
much as I would want older guys, I played against
Philip Rivers a bunch in college back when Maryland was
in acc and a bunch when I was in Denver
and he was in San Diego. So like, obviously I'm
rooting for the older guy to have success, But it's
really fast and it's really hard. And his career didn't
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end because he was tired of playing football. His career
ended because he was not producing. So I'm not sure
what some time off, some rest is gonna do, but
I don't imagine that it's going to go all that well.
I think probably better off when Riley Leonard gets healthy
or I don't know someone who's actually been playing for ball.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I know he's been coaching, but it's so fast.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
It's so violent, and we see Aaron Rodgers who hasn't
stopped playing, like obviously the threat of getting hit has
changed the way that he plays. I'm assuming that Philip
Rivers is a normal human being and he's gonna be
a little skittich.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, okay, explain that to me that you can see
that Rogers he's different now because he's afraid of getting hit.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yeah, I mean in said he's afraid of getting hit.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
Makes it feel insulting, like he's a reasonable person and
he can't move the way that he didn't normally move, Like, yeah,
you're that willingness to hold onto the ball for half
a second longer and have a two hundred and fifty
pounds super athlete jump through your.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Chin is it changes.
Speaker 11 (21:48):
It changes a lot when it hurts a little bit
more and when you're not as explosive, and also when
you don't feel like you're in contention in the way
that you once were. So I think I'm not the
only one who noticed it. Like we all see it.
He's more quick to get rid of the ball. And
the reason why I think he had good numbers last
week is because the Ravens can't rush the passer. As
soon as you get someone who can rust the passer,
you'll see the Aaron Rodgers that we've seen most of
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this season return.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Who's the one quarterback though that above everybody else was
gonna stay in there and he was gonna take the hit. Man.
Speaker 11 (22:22):
I think like Young Drew Brees as a guy that
got hit a bunch and was willing to stay in there.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (22:30):
He And again this goes back to him in San
Diego and earlier in his career. I think he later
in his career with the shoulder injury or assuming the
elbow injury and the age, his offense turned into quick
pass stuff. But like that is something that stands out
in my mind. Of course, Steve Young was a guy
from growing up watching him and Brady is definitely that
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guy who was able to do that. He didn't do
it nearly as much in Tampa, but was willing to
stand in there and take those shots.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Dang. I'm always amazed though, when we usually see the
end result, we don't see that quarterback getting smashed. It's like,
right before he's gonna get hit, and then we all
did a complete touchdown, and you know, meanwhile he's getting
a spatula in there, you know, peeling him off the
aster turf.
Speaker 11 (23:16):
We don't appreciate how hard does it, even when we
pointed out it's impossible. I think, and I played football,
I don't think that it's ever hurt nearly as bad
as that, and they just hop right up. Doesn't matter
how big you're like, we see it over time. Cam
Newton might be the most impressive looking physical person ever
(23:37):
in life, even eventually his body broke down. Because you
can only take so many of those.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
They hurt.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
And I know we've all seen the sports sciences. It's
like the car crashes. All of us might have been
in accidents of different level. Like just imagine that. Ten
times a week you get into something like that. It's
going to catch up to you eventually.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The Chiefs the Dolphins have the same record. Does that
bring it into reality of you know, we keep going,
yeah they got fifteen, as long as you got fifteen
there and their records shame as the Dolphins.
Speaker 11 (24:13):
It's funny because it feels like lazy analysis, but like
fifteen's proven that we should respect him. But yeah, they've
been the same team for the past two or three
years with differing levels of defense, and we all thought
we were extra smart when we were like, but look,
it's gonna catch up to them, and it didn't catch
up to them.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
It finally has caught up to him.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Like the drop passes, Like, of course, these guys are
professional football players. They're not gonna drop a lot of
passes and they're going to have penalties. Like these things
gonna happen. It just felt like in those situations it
always went their way in the past. And then of course,
if you're in a close game, that's when the value
of a quarterback goes up. So this team survived a
lot beating teams that were better than them because of
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good fortune, good coaching, and a great quarterback, and ultimately
it caught up them.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Talking to Dominic Foxworth, host of The Dominic Foxworth Show,
ESPN writer and contributor, former NFL defenship back, who's a
great team this year?
Speaker 11 (25:11):
Yeah, I think I would say the Packers and the
Rams are the teams that I would look at and say,
these are super Bowl caliber teams. Sometimes teams that don't
look like super Bowl caliber teams end up winning the
super Bowl. It happens probably a couple times a decade, two, three,
four times a decade.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That could certainly happen this year.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
No one in the AFC do I look at and say, oh, yeah,
they're definitely. I'll show them and I can guarantee they'll
be at least in the conference game, and it'll be
a fluke if they don't make it. I feel like
I would say that if the Packers or the Rams
don't make it out of the.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
NFC, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
It'd be some sort of flucish streak that someone got
hot and ripped off of Joe Flacco style run, and
I would be surprised by it. But everybody else is
so flawed in important ways.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Does the NFL have a long field goal problem?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, it hasn't gotten there.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
Yet for me, Like, I get the point that you're making,
but I also feel like, combined with the change and
the kickoff rules and the aggressiveness on fourth down, I
think the incentive to kick a long field goal is
still not really that overwhelming. Like I think right now
we're kind of in a sweet spot where guys are
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likely to go forward, teams are likely to go for
it on fourth down. It feels like even within the five,
we've had more teams go for it on fourth down,
which is what I want. Like, I love the suspense
of a last second field goal, but I like it
at the last second. If you're in the red zone
in the third quarter, I want you to go. I
want you to throw the ball. I want you to
play football and not kick.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Could you see maybe raising the crossbar at some point,
Like you know, we had to do this with the
extra point because it became formulaic, But can you see
the NFL doing something that will discourage or maybe say
he encourage you to go for something instead of trying
to kick a field goal.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I could see it happen.
Speaker 11 (27:06):
And again I haven't seen the numbers from this season,
so but I don't get the sense that it's become
a problem. And I think when you score, if you
kick a field goal or you score a touchdown the kickoffs,
I know the starting position has moved up for a
lot of teams, so it doesn't feel like as good
of a proposition to give up three points and then
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give them the ball on the thirty five they get
one first down and they're in field goal range again.
So like, I still don't feel like we're there, but
if we get there, the NFL will have no problem
change in the rule.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
But I'm not sure that they would move to crossbar.
They're smarter than that.
Speaker 11 (27:40):
I think they would do something outside of making a
more obvious change, because that's when we get upset, when
it's something we can see and bothers us Like they
tweak the rules to a certain extent that changes the
incentive structure the way that I'm talking about. Maybe they
moved the kickoff where they moved the kickoff up even
or back even further so that it even more extensual.
It's the idea that if you score, it better be
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worth it because you're gonna give the other team the
ball at midfield. That's worth seven points, that's not worth three.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Why don't we have lasers going up the goal post,
because like, I mean, no, it's it. It can be
an exact science, right. They choose not to make it
an exact science.
Speaker 11 (28:22):
Because we didn't build I think the idea that this
was going to be a thing that happened. Those uprights
they were so high. No one was kicking over them
at any point. I think putting lasers at the top
of the uprights that turn on at for field goals
and extra points might be something worth doing that we
wouldn't change or use the the chip that's in the ball,
but nobody was kicking it over the uprights before the past.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's a new thing, okay, but now they aren't. I mean,
you could do fun colors there. This is this is
we're in the entertainment business here.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I mean, you are betraying the gray hair that you have.
It's like, what are we doing. I thought that you're
supposed to you're a future guy. You want AI referees. Yeah,
I would have assumed.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
So I'm the old guy the cribunch and it's like,
don't put lasers on my field, Like I want football,
Let's run the ball three yards cloud of dust.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I added this great here. I actually have darg care
I put this on.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
It's beautiful. I like it. I need to get something.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
If you will, it's coming your way. Do you have
any thoughts on the college football playoffs?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:28):
I mean it's funny that we're arguing about these teams
that I think don't have a chance of getting in.
But I think ultimately, while we do focus, we zero
in on these like.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
These micro issues.
Speaker 11 (29:40):
The macro issue is that college football is trying to
build these new structures on top of a faulty foundation.
And as long as we have these conferences where the
talent is so like, the talent differential is so disparate.
There's only twelve games, so you're not gonna get a
good idea of who's actually good and who's actually bad.
(30:01):
There's no way to solve this. There's not a playoff
bracket big enough I think to get an actual champ.
Like we're in the between. We're trying to build a
professional league on top of these amateur structures, and until
we like restructure all of it and then there are
clear conferences where we know who's good and who's bad.
In the NFL, because they all play teams that are
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all around the same level. We don't really know in college,
and then even in the playoffs, you're looking at the
consistency of kids who are eighteen to twenty four, Like,
I can't think of anyone less trustworthy than a man
eighteen to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Good to catch up with you. Good, Thank you, Dominic,
No problem, Dan, Thank you. Dominic Foxworth, host of The
Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN contributor from our NFL defenship Back
Johnny and Pittsburgh. Hey Johnny, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Hey guys A sixty three two, sixty three, ninety tenth,
I have a whose career would you rather have? And
then a quick follow up on the Notre Dame Briak
New Heizel comments from yesterday. First of all, I would
only ask this from your show because of the totality
(31:13):
of your wisdom on this show and this panel.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But warn Moon.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Or Jim Kelly and think about the totality of their careers. Secondly,
New Heiswell comments were awesome. I love that dude, and
he makes a lot of great points. And one thing
I'm gonna say is, think about the Mown Invitational. Think
about all these tournaments college hoops have to get you
excited about the upcoming season. Football doesn't necessarily need it.
(31:41):
But in order to have bowl games instead of like
irrelevant matchups week one, Week two like Toledo or Youngstown
State or whatever, no offense, make them, make them bowl games.
And you know, if Notre Dame is, I think also
works like a little chaos, and Notre Dame is going
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to be chaotic going forward for more reasons than one.
They are setting a president with this NAL money and
break you know, touched.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
On it yesterday.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
This NAL money, this is only going to get exacerbated
the further we go.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, and I'm all in favor of putting the bowl
games to start the year to ensure that you get
quality matchups. Maybe you get a matchup that you're facing
somebody that you wouldn't normally face, you get promotional fallout
from that. It's going to be in September. The weather
will be fine, And it's just like college basketball. They
do this every year. Nobody goes all the acc and
(32:41):
the Big ten are playing. Oh that's terrible, No, it's not.
It's great.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, Marvin, I think the big issue is going to
be all those ball games over Christmas break, So programming
ESPN depends on.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
That program absolutely, And there's so many people.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Bowl games on the twenty seventh, twenty eight, twenty ninth,
the thirtieth of December, when people are off, they're off
for the holidays. It's going to be so tough to
try to fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I realize having been at the Mothership, the importance of
college football with those bowl games, and you get that
entire month that you own and the filler that's there.
We got bull games coming up Friday, I think, so
they're already starting, and maybe we do know your bowl
(33:25):
games on Friday. Yeah, but it's starting already. This is
what the Mothership, and they will fight. They will fight this. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
There's nothing more in disingenuous on social media where people
say I don't watch any of the ball games. Nobody
cares about the bowl games. The ratings are always really good.
People watch, even their exhibitions.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, they watch. It's a filler. We're looking for something.
We watch machin on Tuesday night. Do you have the
first Bowl game on Friday, paul.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Of course, I do. I think I think the first
one is Saturday afternoon or noon. The Cricket Clebration.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh that's it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Okay, it's really good with the bands South Carolina State,
Prairie Review, A and M.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Can they tell us when the bands are going to
be on the field.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'll text you that.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
We can just tune in for that. Yes, all right,
let me take a break. More phone calls coming up,
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It's it's George Clooney. It's called Ja Kelling and it's
about George Clooney. Adam Sandler kind of plays his PR person,
(34:52):
his handler there and they're you know, this is where
you go oscar buzz for Sandler. It's a crime. Get
nominated for uncut Chips. That that was criminal. He was.
He was spectacular in that movie, and it was a
great movie as well. I don't want, I mean, I
want him to get nominated just because I want to
(35:13):
see him there. I mean, the guys made films that
have made over, you know, a couple of billion dollars,
and he can't act. He is a really talented person.
It just feels like he got pigeonholed into. Oh he's
that guy. He's that goofy guy, you know, bathroom humor.
But then you see him act and then you go, no,
he can't act, and he's really good in this movie.
(35:35):
So is George Clooning, by the way. But Sandman, maybe
he gets nominated. I hope he does.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yes, Marvin, I was shocked because I always thought the
cheek code for the Oscars was a comedian that plays
a dramatic role like Robin Williams or Monique. They want
Oscars because they're comics, and he did something dramatic. I
thought he was a shoeing to be nominated.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, I was prize that uncut gems. He didn't get
nominated because I mean, I thought that he was good
enough to win. But sometimes when you're in the Best
Supporting Actor that's when you get your opportunity, you know,
because George Clooney will be the Best Actor category if
he gets nominated. Samman may be best Supporting Actor. Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I found a couple of articles variety other places, and
they said that best Actor uncut Gems was a little
tougher for Sandler, exactly what you said. This would be
best Supporting Actor for j Kelly. And there's some pretty
big names.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, but still.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Benicio del Toro, it's a hammer.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I don't want to mess with him.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Sean Penn's up there, yikes. Okay, but those guys have
probably won before, right del Toro?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, I think both of them have.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, I think I think there would be hoarders.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah. And it doesn't mean anything to Sean Penn another
Academy word. It doesn't mean anything. No, he didn't care. Man.
Remember when he would be fighting the Rozzi when he
was dating or married to Madonna. It felt like he
got into a fight every other week. I mean, what
(37:09):
did you exp I mean they're waiting for you. She's
the most famous woman on the planet at the time,
and you're married to her, and you're like, no, he'd
be fighting anybody, everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yes, he calmed down when he married Jenny for Forrest
Gump kind of cooled out, became a great actor, won
a bunch of oscars.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
All good. Yeah, young Sean Payn a little while.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah yeah, kind of crazy. Who is that that he made?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Robin Wright?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Oh, Robin Right.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Greatest villain in movie history.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh yeah, oh with Forrest Gump, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Jenny
was not a good person.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
She was awful.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
She had some baggage to be fair, as you could
see in the movie. But she strung him along for decades.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, poor guy.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
And then was like, okay, fine, we could do it.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, now, but you and your billions we could find
and now that you're a billionaire, we can finally do this.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
But also I'm dying.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's some realism that story.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, yeah, thank you Jah.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
This is your son.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah Force, he got a daddy en Force too, because
it ain't mine.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It was Lieutenant Dayan, great Lieutenant Dayan. Let's see, Oh,
Wayne Gretzky at the World Cup. We talked about this.
We gotta do it, Okay, Paulie Goes, come on, you
gotta do it. I know you're friends with Gretzky. All right.
(38:36):
If I was with Wayne, then I could make fun
of him about that, and then PAULI goes, oh, come on,
it's thirty seconds. It's so. Here's Wayne at the World
Cup draw trying to pronounce a couple of countries.
Speaker 9 (38:50):
Okay, we got the winner of Denmark, North Macedonia, checked
the Republic of Ireland, winner between Italy, Northern Ireland, Wales,
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Caracos, the winner of the Iraq, Bolivia
(39:12):
and Sir Nam.
Speaker 11 (39:14):
When you're doing a great job and next bofe.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
We're all confused up here.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
There as well.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Great job practice in this one off morning, the winner
between Turkeia, Romania, Slovakia and Kosovo.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You're doing a great job up there, Wayne, I like,
just keep pushing through, buddy, And he said he was
practicing all morning long. I thought it was just a
cold hair. Here's the names. How many did he miss pronounce?
How many open net goals did he miss?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I got him twelve for fifteen from the.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Field, Well for fifteen, yeah, yes, Todd. The fans went
nuts when he said Macedonia. Okay, I see what you
did there? Did he call it? Did he say turqu
He said Turkey? Uh, Turkey.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I think I think that's right Ish Turkey.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And the Curas. How I get Okay, you know wayneos
was busy scoring, you know, eighty goals a year. He
didn't have time to books and countries and things like that.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Geography.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, it didn't care about that, Yes, PAULI.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
And Wayne Gretzky did attend high school. But it could
have been that must have been a joke. He's being recruited,
he signed.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, he wasn't going to school. He went to school
on your team, on your goal.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
He schooled you.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, we should actually changed in that name of Karasau
to whatever Wayne Gretzky says it is.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
He wants to say, it's Karaco, your Kraco.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, he's probably right.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, Yeah, you guys are wrong, You're wrong. I'm the
great one. Okay. Two hours of the books, one more
to go. Paul Feinbah he called Notre Dame of Bunch
of cry Babies. Paul join us coming up in a
half hour. More of your phone calls as well a
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