April 12, 2024 • 42 mins
Doug addresses Kentucky fans before he and Dan talk about the reaction to the passing of OJ Simpson. Doug and Dan are joined by former Bucs' GM Mark Dominik to answer the most important questions going into the NFL Draft. Doug welcomes former all-star Matt Holliday on the show to talk about a big week for him in the Holliday family as his son Jackson, who happens to be the top prospect in baseball, got called up to the big leagues.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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I can.
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I can make do with not having the guide telling
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many years, thirty plus years as a driver, not needing
that tire gauge in the car? Some good?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Do you think there's training for those shops. This is
how you're gonna try to get to add on the service.
I worked at retail and college and the mall, and
that was always the big one. Try to get the
multiple the multiple places.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hold on, what where? Come on?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Give what you did? Open the door?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
He the door didn't he? Where'd you are.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
East Town Mall, Madison, Wisconsin, Champs Sporting Goods. I love Champs.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, all right, Peter Champs, right, Champs has gone right there? No,
I think they're still around. Yeah, maybe there's like foot Action,
foot locker, Champs, what else? They all like morphed and
then like you're East the East Bay, another Wisconsin company
all kind of morphed into that. Now man, now Champs,
you have to wear that.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You have to wear that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What was the polo? Just Polo and Khaki's is cool.
What was the discount? That's here's the big question.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think it was fifteen percent.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes, still good enough for me. The Poilo story was
you buy a pair of shoes, I need you to
walk away with either some shoe protecting or some socks. Definitely,
that was like that was the main thing. So when
your take your car into these shops, that to your point,
like you're like, I'll just trust tirec thinking.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I'm so glad you brought that up. So I'm driving
with my son yesterday and he's like all he wanted
to do is connect his phone to the car to
the OX to play Uh. He loves rap. So I'm like, hey, dude,
turn that off real quick. Let me just explain this
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is what they try and do to you. No matter,
it doesn't matter, the car company doesn't matter. They're going
to try these little add ons like you gotta. No,
I don't want I have a I have a place
where I get tires. I don't need tires. You're just
trying to get me to get new tires because I
need some tire guy Like, no, don't need it, like
they'll they'll try and get you. Make sure you see
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read through the estimate before you do so. So I
also I did want to say this in regards to
Mark Pope. So the new head coach of Kentucky is
gonna be Mark Pope, and apparently, like Kentucky fans are
not happy about it. Like we went from like Dan
Hurley and Billy Donovan and uh maybe getting Scot Drew
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to Mark Pope, who's one of their own but hasn't
had some long illustrious head coaching career. Can I let
you in on a secret you're getting closer doesn't matter anymore,
Location doesn't matter, History doesn't matter. Do you want to
know what matters? Money? Okay? And it's it's basically a
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free market, and if the donors will supply him with nil,
which is buying players, then you'll be fine. Can he coach? Yeah, like,
well he has had a great recruiting class. Well, guess
what now he's got a bunch of money and he's
got Kentucky. So that goes out the window. Right. Unless
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you have money, you have no chance in the SEC.
And you're gonna see players flocked to the SEC. They
have better players than the rest of the leagues. You
know why, because they have the most money and they
spend the most money. That's it anyway, So you can
be you your happiness doesn't really matter. It's the five
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or six guys that are gonna they're gonna give the capital,
and as long as they keep giving money, you'll keep
getting players. And the second that they stop giving money,
you don't get the players. That's what happened at Arkansas
where Eric Musselman had been there. They went to two
Elite eights, and then they had a disappointing season, and
then whatever happened, the money people were like, we're not
giving money if he's the coach, and then you can't
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have a team. So then he goes to USC and
they're like, we'll give it money. And they're bringing John
cal Perry and we'll give them money. Did you see
the press conference for Arkansas? They actually introduced Johnny Tyson,
who's who runs Tyson Chicken and Tyson Foods, actually introduced
the booster, like, hey, the guy who's responsible for it.
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We didn't do god anymore, not the president, right, not
the ad. Let's just cut through it. Okay, none of
this happens if not for your money. So Johnny wants
to stand up and you're essentially the facto owner of
this whole thing, why don't you stand up and take
about I love it too, Like I I love it
when the name is I mean it's his where it's
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not like, hey, this is a David McHenry, you know,
the head of Tyson, Like when you're the Tyson of Tyson.
It's it's magnificent, it is. It's really it's really such
a power play, it really is. Yeah, let's all have
some Tyson Chicken and there's Johnny Tyson. This is the
Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. So I I've
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heard this from a couple of people, not a ton
of people, but the whole reaction to OJ Simpson and
Dying O J. Simpson Die and uh Shannon Sharp, who
of course has a podcast called uh uh is it
the Last Call?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This is on Last Call? Or no called Nightcap? Do
I know it's Nightcap? This is a great I don't
think I've touched you guys. This So the genius behind
Colin Cowherd's I say genius. I'm not being sarcastic. I
think he's a brilliant dude. His name's Logan Sway. So
Logan is one of the guys who runs things for
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Colin Cowherd's Volume podcast network and Colin's podcast has network
has Shannon Sharp and uh Shiadow, josinco Right, Chad John's
and their show is called Nightcap. Well, Nightcap was the
name we wanted to have for my TV show with
Ali LaForce. Logan was my producer, and they changed it
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to leadoff It's the show at night, but it was
going to lead off the next day like it's kind
of a baseball analogy. But anyway, I always like Nightcap.
So this was Shannon Sharp who was reacting to He's
reacting to, Uh, oh you don't we don't have Okay,
So did you see what did you hear what Shannon
Sharp said? He's like, listen, people who never wish ill
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upon the dead? Right, Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson both
saying never wish ill upon the dead when oj Simpson does.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Since when.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're not allowed to wish ill upon the dead when
he's responsible for the deaths of two people, including his
ex wife. Really, no, no, no, no, no, I don't. I don't.
I'm not the bad guy for not mourning the loss
of the bad guy. Sorry, right, And this is not
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like sports guy. This is not you know, Barry Bonds
who took steroids that's the only way he could pass
Henry Arn's record. This is not even Alex Rodriguez, like
the shadiest worst dude ever. Like, no, no, this is
a completely different level. We talk about sports and business
like the murderers. I think you got a special place
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in hell there, right, But it's more than just being
responsible for and I believe, though found innocent in a
criminal court of law, I believe he did it. There's
the interview. You guys have all seen the interview right
where he went through the imaginary scenario. You know, if
in this scenario and then all of a sudden. You
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can see him walking you through that night, and he's
got this nefarious Charlie figure.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dude's just sociopath. Like, what are we all doing? You
don't have to, you don't have to when Charlie Manson died,
did you have to go like, you know, hey, listen,
I'll due respect to the passing of the Charlie Manson,
you murder somebody or responsible for or the softest I
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could ever go is well at least he one knows
who did it. And for all of this time, for
the thirty years since the passing of his ex wife,
he couldn't give her family peace. And so now he
dies or supposed to go like, hey, you know he
died like, never speak ill upon the dead. No, so
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horrible human being, he's got a first class ticket to hell.
Why am I supposed to feel bad? Why am I
supposed to not speak poorly of the dead. You're a
god fearing Christian man, Dad? Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Here?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Am I the bad guy for saying that?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I don't think that you're the bad guy. I think
that there are a lot of people that share your
opinion on this. I do not share the opinion of
Shannon Sharp. I also think that Shannon Sharp because he
attacked Caitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Uh, oh, that's what it was. It was about. It
was about Kaitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yes, that's where it ended up because she made a
comment on Twitter, and so I think that's where X
wherever it was, that's where I think that it was angled.
But I do not, I do not think. I don't
have the angst that you have, but I am in
lockstep with you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I just it's not about treating people. And like
there was a post on social media, which I don't
know to be true, but I don't know to be
a lie. Where there's a woman who said she signed
an NDA and she was at USC in the mid
nineties and he battered women there. You know, he had
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the charges against him with Nicole. I'm simply talking about
murdering two people and never asking for forgiveness, never copping
to it, never helping anybody find who the real killers
were as he pledged to do. Like, the whole thing's
a complete sham. And I'm not going to sit here
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and go just because he died, like my dad died
of cancer, Like I usually have great sympathy for anybody
who goes through that fight. You know, one of my
best friend's dad died of colon cancer, which I think,
what he what he died of, right, But I'm not
going to sit here and do the cancer thing and
go do the woe was Me thing for OJ Simpson. No, thanks,
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I was.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I was not directly affected like ninety nine point nine
nine nine percent of us from this, although ninety nine
point nine nine nine percent of us were wrapped up
into the story. I'll make this quick, but when this
all happened, I hadn't moved out to southern California yet.
In fact, when I did move out to southern California,
and where I lived wasn't too far from where the
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murders took place. So when family came in, guess where
I would take them on a tour. That's one of
the streets we would go by, and I would say, hey,
this is where this happened about probably within the last
decade or so. I always remember that Ron Goldman's sibling
sister had personalized plates. I think his dad did as well.
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In honoring Ron, and my wife and I were going
out to a restaurant where we lived and I saw
the personalized plate, and we went into the restaurant and
I saw the family they're eating, and I thought to
myself this, I thought, I'm going in there and I'm
looking for them. We know them, we know their faces.
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Now this maybe twenty years thirty years past it. But
they're not having dinner, and they're probably getting unique stairs.
And they're not getting unique stairs because they're famous. They're
getting unique stairs because their son was murdered. And to
that point of just reality of it's got to be
a living hell to live every single day with that
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memory that your son is not there, to the point
of now you can't even go in and get lost
in public because you're reminded about it because as people
see who you are, like it was such a different
Like just I just thought about it. I'm like, Okay,
don't look, don't stare, don't be awkward. You know, it's
a familiar face. It's different when you see a celebrity
at a restaurant, right, this is completely different, and if
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you make eye contact, they know exactly why you're looking
at that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I I this is one of those. To me,
it's the time. Can heal some wounds not that one. Yep,
not that one. Sorry, not that one. And even if
it was, you know, I mean, part of it is
if you know, we know about the grisliness of the
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of the murders. It's not like there was an argument
in a fight and somebody lost their temper, got scared
and fired off like a warning shot and like one
of those deal crime of passion, but just the idea
of whatever happened, whatever happened, the family was never given
piece and and to that that's just ultimate cruelty, ultimate
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cruelty to not give people piece of what happened. It's like, look,
we can get over the fact that you got that,
you got off of the murder chart. Just tell us
what happens.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
We just know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I don't know if you really want to know,
but you get so far deep into it and you
get to every you go through a trial, you see,
you wear every detail of it, so you kind of know,
just like, dude, come on, and then you carry on
this charade if I did it and in this in
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this scenario, and you have every sort of detail, he's
the worst. He's the worst. No, death does not help you,
in my mind, it does not help you escape this thing. Eh,
you mean you tell me that you died of cancer
and you couldn't still tell everybody what really happened. Just
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come just empty your soul because you don't have one.
So no, I don't feel sympathy. No, I yes, I
can speak poorly of the dead. I'm Doug Gottliebe's Dan
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just got a great tweet from Kelly Lace. That's at
Dad too. Twin girls. Hey, by the way, happy congratulations.
I have twin girls. They turn eighteen on Sunday. How
old is your boy? Crazy? Anyway, says as a pro,
his worst day would be any average golfer's best day
at Augusta. Just like you saying, pick up basketball. That's
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why when people talk trash to me in basketball, because
I was never particularly good, but now I'm really not good.
I just say, hey, dude, this is this is the
best day of your career, the worst of mine. Let's
just get through this thing. Anyway. Jordan Speed shot at
seventy nine yesterday.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, they completed today. It was not good today. He
took a nine on fifteen and it was Yeah, it
was not pretty. You sometimes wonder if sp He's going
to have that magic and it disappeared this morning. It
was not there.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What happened to Jordan Speed.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Chipped back into the water, so then he had to
take a drop on.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
The other side.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't mean what happened on the nine. I mean
what happened, and then.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
What flubbed his chip? Then he missed his putt, and
then he tapped in for a nine.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That feels like me, I love when I get on
the green like part five and two, Like yeah I can,
I can get it in four from here, no question?
But no, what legit? Like what happened? Like he was
the next one, He was the next one six feet
in He never missed a putt. That dude was an unbelievas.
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He was a.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Machine ball striker. Yeah what happened. He was never the longest,
you know, so it was never the most athletic, but
he would get hot, yes, and he would get a
hot uh. And he knows how to play in those
clutch situations. Yeah, just it happens.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It such a hard such a heart, such a we're
doing are we gonna do that? SCLF? Like that's baseball,
that's the SCLF. Golf, It just happens. I just golf
is the I'm trying to think, which is the most
miserable sport when you're not playing well? Like when in
basketball with must they just take you out?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yes, or you can get an assister or a rebound. Golf,
there's no hiding. There's no hiding.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
There's no hiding like tennis. Like in tennis, when you
just don't have it or you're overwhelmed, like it's over quick.
You know, it's just over quick. That thing like there's
nowhere you can go. I mean, you could retire, but
you don't retire.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
The other thing is your opponent may stink in tennis,
so that may give you a little breather. With golf,
there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No and just unrelenting courses, unrelenting. Did you see Travis
Kelcey graduated from the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, So he got his degree for the University of Cincinnati.
He walked and upon receiving said diploma, he broke out
a beer and pounded the beer. Now I'm gonna preface
this by saying, along my path, I have met and
spent time with Travis Kelcey. Now this was years ago
when he had the reality show where he dated like
thirty two women in the summer. And I find Travis
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to be awesome, hilarious, fun. You know, obviously his brother
Jason is like the every guy, and you know, Travis's
a little bit was a little bit more of the
playboy a little bit, but like, nothing is more on
brand than the need for attention. Nothing says I need
attention more than these two time you know, the back
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to back super Bowl champion tight end who's dating the
most famous woman on earth doing the Look at me,
I'm pounding a beer when I haven't. It's like one
thing if you're just turned twenty one, you're twenty two
and you're the football dude, but like pro you're in
your thirties, you're kind of a grown up. Now you're
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going to pound a beer after getting your diploma.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Also, because most college graduations are Doug Gottlieb, dan Byer,
Chasing Stewart, Joel Elliott, Dan Patrick, Seaton, O'Connor, Paul Papps,
Fritz really good what you're doing? Yes, like that's what
they are, fast, like it's it's he had the moment
his parents were on stage. Now that I'm seeing the video, Yeah,
(22:32):
it had to be a sponsored deal, right, Like whoever
that beer or drink was it's a ball narrow.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Fan, Yes, yes, brought to you by Pfizer. He was
the Pfizer add he did. Yes, that would be that
would be the most Travis Kelcey thing ever, is if
it was all sponsored by Also it's one of those
deals where I'm sure everybody knows who he is, but
there's plenty of people like, who is that guy? Why
is he pound? Get off the stage, man, I want
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to see my nephew. Mark Dominic joins us. He spent
over twenty years in NFL front offices. Of course, he's
the general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers, and he joins
us here and Dan Patrick show Fox Sports trader Dan
Buyer alongside him, Doug Gottliebin, we're getting closer and closer
to the draft. What are the smokes signals? What do
(23:23):
you think the commanders do? Because that really feels like
where the draft can pivot and change based upon who.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They take it to. Mark.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, they're doing their due diligence obviously on Drake May
and Jade Daniels and trying to figure out which one
they're going to go with. I don't believe it's j. J. McCarthy.
I don't think that that's where they've got him quote pegged,
and I think it comes down to, you know, obviously
the offensive coordinator, what he's dealt with before in terms
of you know, Alex van Pelt and to me in
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terms of Green Bay, it's kind of unique where I
think that seems more excuse me, New England, that seems
more of the May. I think Washington feels a little
more Jayden Daniels based off of what they do offensively,
what they're going to want to do.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Excuse me, Mark, Do you think Washington ever had a
legit shot to move up one spot for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
No, I don't think so. And I don't think that
the Bears are looking for that they needed, They needed
the uh, this player. It's so much more important than
picks and uh, you know, if you're gonna bet on it,
they're obviously going all in on Caleb Williams, and you've
got to take a shot when you've got that spot.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Okay, So if Jayden Daniels goes to Washington, Okay, who's
the next quarterback to go?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Say they again?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Dog, If Daniels goes to Washington, who's the next quarterback
to go?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, I think I think Drake May goes. I mean,
I think it's gonna be uh, Drake May is certainly
the next quarterback. Then I think it's JJ or you know,
it starts to get into Michael Pennock's kind of world.
So I think that those two might pull fall down
a little bit further, like JJ may fall a little
bit further down the ladder, but they're both obviously, I think,
going to go in the top fifteen. So I think
JJ has the chance still to be maybe that you know,
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eighth or ninth pick if one of those teams, like
the Minnesota wants to pop up and go get him.
But I think it's the three quarterbacks and then I
think you see the receiver start to pull off the
board in offensive tackles. I think that you're going to
see possibly seven or eight straight offensive players before we
see Dallas Turner come off the board towards the end
of that first top ten picks.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So Minnesota obviously made the deal so they could get
to first rounders. Do you do that deal with a
person in mind, or do you do it to just
have the ability to move up. Is there a scenario
where they end up staying or now are they pot
committed and have to move up because they acquired that
second first.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
You know, I think they did it because when I
look at the value of that trade. The trade from
a analytics standpoint or from a value standpoint, says you
make that trade every time, especially not being on the clock,
because you don't know what player is going to be there,
So the trade can become more valuable based off I
think to me, the more quarterbacks that come off the board, uh,
you know, brings a positional player that's going to drop
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to that pick, and so I think it becomes a
much more valuable pick. I think that doesn't mean they
have to go move up. They don't have a lot
of ammunition behind that pick, so it's kind of like,
you know, are you going all in?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
So we'll see what they do. But I think they
just made the trade because the value was too good,
not because hey, we've got to use this to go
get a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hm. What what is it like in that draft room
when when you're you know, when you're trying to figure
out what you want and who's going like how how
close can you peg it? When you're sitting in the
five spot or the seventh spot in terms of what
happens before.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
You, you're pretty close. H you should have a pretty
good understanding. I know that when I was picking five,
I felt like I could move back to seven and
still get one of my top two guys and they
were both on the board when I was at seven,
So uh, I think that that's one of those things
where you've got to do a lot of work right now,
and there's there's fun questions you can ask people, and
I think could be an interesting opportunity for you, Doug
(27:02):
at some point with your interviewing of gms. But here's
the question that's a trick question and you can get
a lot of information out and that we'll share it
with you because we do this all the time. But
the question you ask a general manager is do you think, uh,
who's a good Uh Do you think Joe Alt will
get to you at seven?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Right?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
So now you ask maybe the Arizona Cardinals, or you
ask you know, a team that's in between. And if
they say yeah, I think he'll be there, they're not
thinking about subconsciously, they're innswer the question we won't take him.
And if they say, hey, I don't think he's gonna
make it there, that means they have him high up
on the board where they're going to consider him right.
So it's a very interesting question you can ask somebody
if you're in the in the draft situation, and you
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got to use it pointedly. You got to use it
carefully because you don't want to over and date it.
But you've got to pick an individual player that you say, hey,
do you think he'll make it to you? And that's
what I used to do with GMS. I used to
talk to teams and go, you know, I don't want
to tell boards. I'm just kind of curious, like, you know,
picking some butt guys that I thought were going to
go in front of me. Maybe when backtick in eighteen
or nineteen. You know, I talked to maybe a team
that was at twelve or thirteen, say, hey, do you
think that there's any way that Ryan Kerrigan makes it
(28:07):
to you at eighteen? And they're like, nah, he's certainly,
and I don't think he's gonna be there, you know,
and then suddenly it's like, okay, so they have him
high up on the board consider and that's kind of
inside information.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Can cold like I like that. Now you can even
tweak it even more and do the true like like
never ask a guest no, and go, what's the likelihood
that he gets to you?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Absolutely? And again it's a it's a tell that they're
going to use within the organization. You could do it
as the head coach. You could certainly do it to
the general manager, because those two are gonna have the
best sense of like who they really want to take
as compared to maybe what the overall feeling might be
in a building.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Last week, going we talked to dominic Key told us
how he would find these mock drafters and totally give them,
Like how did you find that information when they were
completely off the set, Like they weren't even they weren't
even in the same county. So there's a you see
the little backway deal of general managers here, all right?
I aggress you mentioned number five. Number five right now
(29:05):
is the Chargers. It is Doug's team. Is there such
a thing as first pick of your tenuere? Like, is
this are we making Jim Harbaugh's first pick as the
Chargers head coach? Are we making a bigger deal out
of it than maybe it actually is? Or is this
actually a big deal because it's pick number one of
his tenure with the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
No, I think it's a big deal. But I think
it's a big deal because I don't expect the Chargers
to be up there again for a long time. You know,
I think that they're going to be able to put
together an offense here that is going to be very exciting,
and I think they're going to have the pick of
the litter for the most part in terms of so
I want an offensive tackle, do I want the tight
end or do I want the wide receiver? And I
think that they're is coming down to all three, and
(29:46):
I think that the offensive line is like we said
last week, I still think that's a sneaky in play
move that the Chargers could do to kind of solidify,
you know, justin Herbert in terms of protecting their most
important asset. It's not the sexiest pick. It's more sexy
to take brock Powers or you know, whichever receiver happens
to be there at five. But I can understand that
all three of those are in play. But I think
(30:07):
they're just so critical that they've got to get it right,
because again, I don't think the charge is going to
be in this kind of situation again next year the
following because I think Carbo is going to make this
team a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Wow. From your lips to God's ears, the Chargers will
actually achieve the level of their talent. But but let me okay, so,
but if we look at what the Chargers have done,
it does feel like they're crafting this offense under the
guidance of Greg Roman. Right Like, you bring in, you know,
a tight end he drafted, he was there for a draft.
You know, you bring in a running back, You're you're
(30:40):
making this into a Greg Roman offense. Doesn't that stream? Hey,
go get Brock Powers where you have another pass catching
tight end.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, I think it does. I actually think it does.
And I think a lot of people who are mocking
Brock Powers at fifteen or sixteen are way off one
where the NFL club see Brock Powers as a player
and then it was possible.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh he's amazing. He's amazing, am he's the best playing
in SEC.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I don't dis I mean, he's a great, great football
player at a pivotal position. And it's a quarterback's best friend.
And in the end, you know, kind of what you
think about what Greg Roman's done, and especially when he
was in Baltimore, what.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Did they do?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
They drafted guy the draft guys maybe late wide receivers
in the first round, but second and third round where
they take the vertical guys. So the worthy, the guys
that can run vertical. That's where the Baltimore Ravens have
always done that. They push your defense down the field
to open up stuff underneath from Mark Andrews or the
run game. And so I think that they're going to do.
I think they'll do tight end or offensive line if
it's a shock, but I think the wide receivers later
(31:38):
in the draft because I think they're going to get
vertical guys like they've always done before when Roman was
the offense coordinator in Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
There we go. Hey man, this INSIGHT's amazing. Love have
you on my show. Love you having on this show.
Hope you have a great weekend.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Thanks so much for joining us, guys, thanks for having
me on. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Two weeks to two weeks. Mark Dominic joins us here
in the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. What
is incredible, by the way, I just great, dude, incredible,
valuable asset, Like giving you the whole Like, here's how
you get your information. Uh, I'm Doug Gottlieb. He's Dan
Byron in for Dan and the Danettes here and the
(32:12):
Dan Patrick's show. What would it be like to see
your son get called up to the bigs when you're
a former big leaguer. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Our next guest knows he'll join us. I'm the Dan
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Speaker 1 (32:30):
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Speaker 2 (32:43):
Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byron for Dan Patrick, Dan The Danetes You,
and The Dan Patrick Show Foxsports Radio. So look, I
think everybody thinks of these moments in an athlete's career
year that are unique and special, like what you'd what
(33:06):
you have in base baseball is because of the true
minor league system, maybe because of how we've the movies
like Bull Durham, Like the idea of getting a call
up from the to the show from the minor leagues
is something that sounds really really cool.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Then when you.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Factor in, well, it's a former number one overall pick
who it was only a year and a half ago,
is number one pick and oh yeah, by the way,
he's the son of a dear friend of mine who
is an All star in his own right, and it
happens even cooler. So we've kind of on my show,
The Doug Gottlieb Show, which airs every day at three
eastern New Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we've kind of
(33:45):
all adopted Jackson Holiday is like our guy to watch
this year in baseball, to pay attention to baseball. But
the guy who he actually it's actually his son doesn't
have to adopt him is Matt Holliday, and he joins
us now on the Dan Patrick Show. Matt, how you what, Doug?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Ho are we doing?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Good man?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
What what is that like to watch your son play
in the bigs?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Well, it's really exciting. Uh it was, you know, I
expected it at some point this year, obviously didn't didn't
know when, and and so, uh when he called me
a couple of nights ago and and said that he
was he was headed to Boston, uh pretty cool, pretty
cool feeling, and pretty exciting for our family. So we
immediately pivoted and tried to figure out how we were
(34:31):
going to get to Boston the next day and and
get to the game and uh try to get everybody
that wanted to be there, uh to the game. And uh,
so it was it was pretty exciting obviously. Fenway Park
is a is a historic venue for baseball and and
a lot of things up. You know, I had a
chance to play in a couple of World Series. Is
there and really cool place, uh to make your debut
(34:53):
and and to uh get a chance to go and
watch him fulfill his dream of playing in the Major
League and uh do it on a really good team
and in a really cool environment. It's a lot of fun.
So we we had a great time and now we
just landed in Baltimore's catch a catch their his first
game as an Oriole in Baltimore tonight. Uh, so that's
(35:13):
exciting too. So it's a it's a fun time and
really enjoy watching him pursue.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
You know his passion and what he loves to do,
and that's by baseball.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I know Oriole fans probably wish he was called up sooner,
but you talk about us kind of it's it's going
to happen. The day he was drafted, what did you
think that the plan was? I know, not thing's a given,
but in your mind, what are you thinking of, Like,
all right, this is when we're going to see him
in the bigs.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Well, you know that that I understand how challenging in
baseball is and how you know, the minor leagues, particularly
for a kid coming out of high school, you know,
can be can be a challenge, and so uh my expectations.
I think at the press conference he said his goal
was to be there within two years, and I would
to myself with thinking, Chief actually like that, that's pretty quick,
Like you're you know, this is a hard deal. It
(36:00):
was a hard game. And so I don't think that,
you know, particularly with him, when he puts his mind
to something, he's he's pretty relentless and and pretty uh
you knows he's done, done what he said he's he's
going to do, and and so uh, to make it
this fast has been pretty remarkable. Uh to be you know,
twenty years old and in the major league, Uh, after
(36:22):
being drafted less than two years ago. And you know,
I'm I'm really proud of him. He puts in the
work and and he's mentally very tough and very focused,
and uh he does everything right as far as eating
and sleeping and watches you know how much make sure
he's he's doing everything he can have success on the field.
So I didn't really know to answer your question how
(36:44):
long it would take. I would he gets probably a
little bit longer than it's taken. But and knowing how
focused and determined the kid he is, I'm not really surprised.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't know if you ever shared this story, but
it's when I remember Matt Holidays. Our guest, of course,
is Jackson, the number one overall of the Orioles a
year and a half ago, just got called up to
the BIGS as the Orioles were playing in Boston. Now
now returning home. Of course, Matt's a seven time All
Star in his own rights, won a couple of World
Series as well. Okay, so when he was younger and
(37:16):
I people ask all the time, like, no, what how
what is that like for Jackson? What's he really like?
And I was like, dude, the most humble, thoughtful kid,
And I remember this story and tell me if I'm wrong.
You guys used to when he was little and Leslie
would go to Target, she would do a deal where
(37:36):
she'd run the credit card when they'd pay, and Jackson,
they'd like, Jackson would sit there saying a little prayer
that they'd have it, you'd have enough money for it
to go through, right, am I remembering the story ride.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Yeah, yeah, he yeah, he and Ethan were always concerned that,
you know, the target trips when the basket would get
to full, that if if we'd have enough money to
uh to get the to get all the things that
were in the basket. So I don't I don't know
if we how much many things were in those baskets,
(38:12):
but yeah, they were. They were concerned that that the
credit card wouldn't be able to cover it, and so
Letslie just played along and she'd be like, I don't know,
we'll see I mean, if not, we'll have to start
taking back.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I I only I only bring it up because like, seriously,
how do you guys? How do you guys do it?
Like Ethan's going to be a star as well still
Otur high school. He's in some of he's number one
rate of prospect in his class. But how do you
do how do you as a major leaguer and all
star when you have so many things that other people want?
How do you do it to where you do? You
(38:45):
have kids that are not only successful, but they're hungry
for more. That's really the thing that so many of
us who have young athletes that we want and when
you're raised in fair affluence, you think they're not going
to have that hunger.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the I
don't know if there's a magic bullet on that. I
think just you know, I think them understanding what it
took and getting a chance to be around me, uh
in my career, and getting a chance to watch all
my teammates, and I think then then identifying the level
of work that it takes to play at the highest
level and for them to see, you know, the best
(39:21):
players and what they you know, the work that's put in,
I think was really good for them to understand. And
I think it also it uh, it created a passion
I think for the game and for wanting to do
that for a living and for them wanting to be
pro baseball players. I think being around it and it's
(39:43):
you know, it kind of provoked them to want to
want to do that. And so I always told him,
you know, I would throw to them or hit them
ground balls or whatever they wanted to do all day
if if it was their idea. But I wasn't going
to force them that. I wasn't going to make them
go practice that in baseball. Really, you know, in all sports,
as you know, you have to have a passion for
the practice, and you have to love the behind the
(40:05):
scene work, and you have to love the the the
skill development just as much as you love the game
in front of a ton of people and the good
the four for fours and the highs of of of
winning and and and and being you know, the sort
of the star player. You have to love all of
the process just as much because that's how hard, you know,
(40:27):
the sport is at the highest level that you have
to continue to work and and and and fight for
every day that that every day is a competition you
challenge and if you don't you can get embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I mean it really is.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
And individual league night you're playing the best of bringing
it both mentally and physically. Uh, I mean, you have
to have to bring it on hundred percent every night.
And I think that the fact that they were raised
in that environment really you know, helped them understand what
it took. And and then like I said, the out
(41:00):
their passion for the practice.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Quick one for you met holiday before we let you go.
When Doug Gottlieb stays with you, does he also put
his feet on your furniture? Like he does sometimes at work.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Uh yeah, but that's really invited our house.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
We have four dogs and we have you know, it's
it's uh, it fits right in. Yeah, so it's it's
it's uh everyone puts their feet everywhere, so it's uh,
it's it's right up. He probably learned that at our house.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Doesn't have you have three dogs in Trooper. Nobody likes Trooper. Nobody, nobody, nobody,
nobody likes Nobody likes Trooper.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Hey man, I'm so happy. I can't wait to see
Jackson he comes out to the big a uh next week.
Safe travels for you, guys, and let's see if Jackson
get his first home run night off Peralta.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
That was good, all right, thanks for having me on guys.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
All right, it's Matt Holiday joining us. Is just a
real close friend of mine. But can you imagine, like
you strip it all away, you've you've done all that
stuff yourself, and you know they work literally every day
in the barn at Matt's house on hitting and to
see your twenty year old kid like get called up,
I don't know's I've had a lot of dad moments.
(42:11):
That's a pretty good one, pretty good, pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
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also I did want to say this in regards to
Mark Pope. So the new head coach of Kentucky is
gonna be Mark Pope, and apparently, like Kentucky fans are
not happy about it. Like we went from like Dan
Hurley and Billy Donovan and uh maybe getting Scot Drew
(04:12):
to Mark Pope, who's one of their own but hasn't
had some long illustrious head coaching career. Can I let
you in on a secret you're getting closer doesn't matter anymore,
Location doesn't matter, History doesn't matter. Do you want to
know what matters? Money? Okay? And it's it's basically a
(04:40):
free market, and if the donors will supply him with nil,
which is buying players, then you'll be fine. Can he coach? Yeah, like,
well he has had a great recruiting class. Well, guess
what now he's got a bunch of money and he's
got Kentucky. So that goes out the window. Right. Unless
(05:05):
you have money, you have no chance in the SEC.
And you're gonna see players flocked to the SEC. They
have better players than the rest of the leagues. You
know why, because they have the most money and they
spend the most money. That's it anyway, So you can
be you your happiness doesn't really matter. It's the five
(05:27):
or six guys that are gonna they're gonna give the capital,
and as long as they keep giving money, you'll keep
getting players. And the second that they stop giving money,
you don't get the players. That's what happened at Arkansas
where Eric Musselman had been there. They went to two
Elite eights, and then they had a disappointing season, and
then whatever happened, the money people were like, we're not
giving money if he's the coach, and then you can't
(05:48):
have a team. So then he goes to USC and
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cal Perry and we'll give them money. Did you see
the press conference for Arkansas? They actually introduced Johnny Tyson,
who's who runs Tyson Chicken and Tyson Foods, actually introduced
the booster, like, hey, the guy who's responsible for it.
(06:08):
We didn't do god anymore, not the president, right, not
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Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. So I I've
(06:54):
heard this from a couple of people, not a ton
of people, but the whole reaction to OJ Simpson and
Dying O J. Simpson Die and uh Shannon Sharp, who
of course has a podcast called uh uh is it
the Last Call?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This is on Last Call? Or no called Nightcap? Do
I know it's Nightcap? This is a great I don't
think I've touched you guys. This So the genius behind
Colin Cowherd's I say genius. I'm not being sarcastic. I
think he's a brilliant dude. His name's Logan Sway. So
Logan is one of the guys who runs things for
(07:35):
Colin Cowherd's Volume podcast network and Colin's podcast has network
has Shannon Sharp and uh Shiadow, josinco Right, Chad John's
and their show is called Nightcap. Well, Nightcap was the
name we wanted to have for my TV show with
Ali LaForce. Logan was my producer, and they changed it
(07:56):
to leadoff It's the show at night, but it was
going to lead off the next day like it's kind
of a baseball analogy. But anyway, I always like Nightcap.
So this was Shannon Sharp who was reacting to He's
reacting to, Uh, oh you don't we don't have Okay,
So did you see what did you hear what Shannon
Sharp said? He's like, listen, people who never wish ill
(08:21):
upon the dead? Right, Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson both
saying never wish ill upon the dead when oj Simpson does.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Since when.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're not allowed to wish ill upon the dead when
he's responsible for the deaths of two people, including his
ex wife. Really, no, no, no, no, no, I don't. I don't.
I'm not the bad guy for not mourning the loss
of the bad guy. Sorry, right, And this is not
(08:56):
like sports guy. This is not you know, Barry Bonds
who took steroids that's the only way he could pass
Henry Arn's record. This is not even Alex Rodriguez, like
the shadiest worst dude ever. Like, no, no, this is
a completely different level. We talk about sports and business
like the murderers. I think you got a special place
(09:19):
in hell there, right, But it's more than just being
responsible for and I believe, though found innocent in a
criminal court of law, I believe he did it. There's
the interview. You guys have all seen the interview right
where he went through the imaginary scenario. You know, if
in this scenario and then all of a sudden. You
(09:42):
can see him walking you through that night, and he's
got this nefarious Charlie figure.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dude's just sociopath. Like, what are we all doing? You
don't have to, you don't have to when Charlie Manson died,
did you have to go like, you know, hey, listen,
I'll due respect to the passing of the Charlie Manson,
you murder somebody or responsible for or the softest I
(10:13):
could ever go is well at least he one knows
who did it. And for all of this time, for
the thirty years since the passing of his ex wife,
he couldn't give her family peace. And so now he
dies or supposed to go like, hey, you know he
died like, never speak ill upon the dead. No, so
(10:34):
horrible human being, he's got a first class ticket to hell.
Why am I supposed to feel bad? Why am I
supposed to not speak poorly of the dead. You're a
god fearing Christian man, Dad? Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Here?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Am I the bad guy for saying that?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I don't think that you're the bad guy. I think
that there are a lot of people that share your
opinion on this. I do not share the opinion of
Shannon Sharp. I also think that Shannon Sharp because he
attacked Caitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Uh, oh, that's what it was. It was about. It
was about Kaitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yes, that's where it ended up because she made a
comment on Twitter, and so I think that's where X
wherever it was, that's where I think that it was angled.
But I do not, I do not think. I don't
have the angst that you have, but I am in
lockstep with you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I just it's not about treating people. And like
there was a post on social media, which I don't
know to be true, but I don't know to be
a lie. Where there's a woman who said she signed
an NDA and she was at USC in the mid
nineties and he battered women there. You know, he had
(11:46):
the charges against him with Nicole. I'm simply talking about
murdering two people and never asking for forgiveness, never copping
to it, never helping anybody find who the real killers
were as he pledged to do. Like, the whole thing's
a complete sham. And I'm not going to sit here
(12:09):
and go just because he died, like my dad died
of cancer, Like I usually have great sympathy for anybody
who goes through that fight. You know, one of my
best friend's dad died of colon cancer, which I think,
what he what he died of, right, But I'm not
going to sit here and do the cancer thing and
go do the woe was Me thing for OJ Simpson. No, thanks,
(12:29):
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I was not directly affected like ninety nine point nine
nine nine percent of us from this, although ninety nine
point nine nine nine percent of us were wrapped up
into the story. I'll make this quick, but when this
all happened, I hadn't moved out to southern California yet.
In fact, when I did move out to southern California,
and where I lived wasn't too far from where the
(12:51):
murders took place. So when family came in, guess where
I would take them on a tour. That's one of
the streets we would go by, and I would say, hey,
this is where this happened about probably within the last
decade or so. I always remember that Ron Goldman's sibling
sister had personalized plates. I think his dad did as well.
(13:11):
In honoring Ron, and my wife and I were going
out to a restaurant where we lived and I saw
the personalized plate, and we went into the restaurant and
I saw the family they're eating, and I thought to
myself this, I thought, I'm going in there and I'm
looking for them. We know them, we know their faces.
(13:32):
Now this maybe twenty years thirty years past it. But
they're not having dinner, and they're probably getting unique stairs.
And they're not getting unique stairs because they're famous. They're
getting unique stairs because their son was murdered. And to
that point of just reality of it's got to be
a living hell to live every single day with that
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memory that your son is not there, to the point
of now you can't even go in and get lost
in public because you're reminded about it because as people
see who you are, like it was such a different
Like just I just thought about it. I'm like, Okay,
don't look, don't stare, don't be awkward. You know, it's
a familiar face. It's different when you see a celebrity
at a restaurant, right, this is completely different, and if
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you make eye contact, they know exactly why you're looking
at that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I I this is one of those. To me,
it's the time. Can heal some wounds not that one. Yep,
not that one. Sorry, not that one. And even if
it was, you know, I mean, part of it is
if you know, we know about the grisliness of the
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of the murders. It's not like there was an argument
in a fight and somebody lost their temper, got scared
and fired off like a warning shot and like one
of those deal crime of passion, but just the idea
of whatever happened, whatever happened, the family was never given
piece and and to that that's just ultimate cruelty, ultimate
(15:07):
cruelty to not give people piece of what happened. It's like, look,
we can get over the fact that you got that,
you got off of the murder chart. Just tell us
what happens.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
We just know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And I don't know if you really want to know,
but you get so far deep into it and you
get to every you go through a trial, you see,
you wear every detail of it, so you kind of know,
just like, dude, come on, and then you carry on
this charade if I did it and in this in
(15:40):
this scenario, and you have every sort of detail, he's
the worst. He's the worst. No, death does not help you,
in my mind, it does not help you escape this thing. Eh,
you mean you tell me that you died of cancer
and you couldn't still tell everybody what really happened. Just
(16:02):
come just empty your soul because you don't have one.
So no, I don't feel sympathy. No, I yes, I
can speak poorly of the dead. I'm Doug Gottliebe's Dan
Byer in for Dan and the guys coming over with
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in the NFL Draft? And how should we really evaluate
(16:23):
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(18:02):
just got a great tweet from Kelly Lace. That's at
Dad too. Twin girls. Hey, by the way, happy congratulations.
I have twin girls. They turn eighteen on Sunday. How
old is your boy? Crazy? Anyway, says as a pro,
his worst day would be any average golfer's best day
at Augusta. Just like you saying, pick up basketball. That's
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why when people talk trash to me in basketball, because
I was never particularly good, but now I'm really not good.
I just say, hey, dude, this is this is the
best day of your career, the worst of mine. Let's
just get through this thing. Anyway. Jordan Speed shot at
seventy nine yesterday.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, they completed today. It was not good today. He
took a nine on fifteen and it was Yeah, it
was not pretty. You sometimes wonder if sp He's going
to have that magic and it disappeared this morning. It
was not there.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What happened to Jordan Speed.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Chipped back into the water, so then he had to
take a drop on.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
The other side.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't mean what happened on the nine. I mean
what happened, and then.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
What flubbed his chip? Then he missed his putt, and
then he tapped in for a nine.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
That feels like me, I love when I get on
the green like part five and two, Like yeah I can,
I can get it in four from here, no question?
But no, what legit? Like what happened? Like he was
the next one, He was the next one six feet
in He never missed a putt. That dude was an unbelievas.
(19:30):
He was a.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Machine ball striker. Yeah what happened. He was never the longest,
you know, so it was never the most athletic, but
he would get hot, yes, and he would get a
hot uh. And he knows how to play in those
clutch situations. Yeah, just it happens.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
It such a hard such a heart, such a we're
doing are we gonna do that? SCLF? Like that's baseball,
that's the SCLF. Golf, It just happens. I just golf
is the I'm trying to think, which is the most
miserable sport when you're not playing well? Like when in
basketball with must they just take you out?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yes, or you can get an assister or a rebound. Golf,
there's no hiding. There's no hiding.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
There's no hiding like tennis. Like in tennis, when you
just don't have it or you're overwhelmed, like it's over quick.
You know, it's just over quick. That thing like there's
nowhere you can go. I mean, you could retire, but
you don't retire.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
The other thing is your opponent may stink in tennis,
so that may give you a little breather. With golf,
there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No and just unrelenting courses, unrelenting. Did you see Travis
Kelcey graduated from the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, So he got his degree for the University of Cincinnati.
He walked and upon receiving said diploma, he broke out
a beer and pounded the beer. Now I'm gonna preface
this by saying, along my path, I have met and
spent time with Travis Kelcey. Now this was years ago
when he had the reality show where he dated like
thirty two women in the summer. And I find Travis
(21:21):
to be awesome, hilarious, fun. You know, obviously his brother
Jason is like the every guy, and you know, Travis's
a little bit was a little bit more of the
playboy a little bit, but like, nothing is more on
brand than the need for attention. Nothing says I need
attention more than these two time you know, the back
(21:42):
to back super Bowl champion tight end who's dating the
most famous woman on earth doing the Look at me,
I'm pounding a beer when I haven't. It's like one
thing if you're just turned twenty one, you're twenty two
and you're the football dude, but like pro you're in
your thirties, you're kind of a grown up. Now you're
(22:06):
going to pound a beer after getting your diploma.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Also, because most college graduations are Doug Gottlieb, dan Byer,
Chasing Stewart, Joel Elliott, Dan Patrick, Seaton, O'Connor, Paul Papps,
Fritz really good what you're doing? Yes, like that's what
they are, fast, like it's it's he had the moment
his parents were on stage. Now that I'm seeing the video, Yeah,
(22:32):
it had to be a sponsored deal, right, Like whoever
that beer or drink was it's a ball narrow.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Fan, Yes, yes, brought to you by Pfizer. He was
the Pfizer add he did. Yes, that would be that
would be the most Travis Kelcey thing ever, is if
it was all sponsored by Also it's one of those
deals where I'm sure everybody knows who he is, but
there's plenty of people like, who is that guy? Why
is he pound? Get off the stage, man, I want
(23:03):
to see my nephew. Mark Dominic joins us. He spent
over twenty years in NFL front offices. Of course, he's
the general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers, and he joins
us here and Dan Patrick show Fox Sports trader Dan
Buyer alongside him, Doug Gottliebin, we're getting closer and closer
to the draft. What are the smokes signals? What do
(23:23):
you think the commanders do? Because that really feels like
where the draft can pivot and change based upon who.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They take it to. Mark.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, they're doing their due diligence obviously on Drake May
and Jade Daniels and trying to figure out which one
they're going to go with. I don't believe it's j. J. McCarthy.
I don't think that that's where they've got him quote pegged,
and I think it comes down to, you know, obviously
the offensive coordinator, what he's dealt with before in terms
of you know, Alex van Pelt and to me in
(23:53):
terms of Green Bay, it's kind of unique where I
think that seems more excuse me, New England, that seems
more of the May. I think Washington feels a little
more Jayden Daniels based off of what they do offensively,
what they're going to want to do.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Excuse me, Mark, Do you think Washington ever had a
legit shot to move up one spot for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
No, I don't think so. And I don't think that
the Bears are looking for that they needed, They needed
the uh, this player. It's so much more important than
picks and uh, you know, if you're gonna bet on it,
they're obviously going all in on Caleb Williams, and you've
got to take a shot when you've got that spot.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Okay, So if Jayden Daniels goes to Washington, Okay, who's
the next quarterback to go?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Say they again?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Dog, If Daniels goes to Washington, who's the next quarterback
to go?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, I think I think Drake May goes. I mean,
I think it's gonna be uh, Drake May is certainly
the next quarterback. Then I think it's JJ or you know,
it starts to get into Michael Pennock's kind of world.
So I think that those two might pull fall down
a little bit further, like JJ may fall a little
bit further down the ladder, but they're both obviously, I think,
going to go in the top fifteen. So I think
JJ has the chance still to be maybe that you know,
(25:06):
eighth or ninth pick if one of those teams, like
the Minnesota wants to pop up and go get him.
But I think it's the three quarterbacks and then I
think you see the receiver start to pull off the
board in offensive tackles. I think that you're going to
see possibly seven or eight straight offensive players before we
see Dallas Turner come off the board towards the end
of that first top ten picks.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So Minnesota obviously made the deal so they could get
to first rounders. Do you do that deal with a
person in mind, or do you do it to just
have the ability to move up. Is there a scenario
where they end up staying or now are they pot
committed and have to move up because they acquired that
second first.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
You know, I think they did it because when I
look at the value of that trade. The trade from
a analytics standpoint or from a value standpoint, says you
make that trade every time, especially not being on the clock,
because you don't know what player is going to be there,
So the trade can become more valuable based off I
think to me, the more quarterbacks that come off the board, uh,
you know, brings a positional player that's going to drop
(26:03):
to that pick, and so I think it becomes a
much more valuable pick. I think that doesn't mean they
have to go move up. They don't have a lot
of ammunition behind that pick, so it's kind of like,
you know, are you going all in?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
So we'll see what they do. But I think they
just made the trade because the value was too good,
not because hey, we've got to use this to go
get a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hm. What what is it like in that draft room
when when you're you know, when you're trying to figure
out what you want and who's going like how how
close can you peg it? When you're sitting in the
five spot or the seventh spot in terms of what
happens before.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
You, you're pretty close. H you should have a pretty
good understanding. I know that when I was picking five,
I felt like I could move back to seven and
still get one of my top two guys and they
were both on the board when I was at seven,
So uh, I think that that's one of those things
where you've got to do a lot of work right now,
and there's there's fun questions you can ask people, and
I think could be an interesting opportunity for you, Doug
(27:02):
at some point with your interviewing of gms. But here's
the question that's a trick question and you can get
a lot of information out and that we'll share it
with you because we do this all the time. But
the question you ask a general manager is do you think, uh,
who's a good Uh Do you think Joe Alt will
get to you at seven?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Right?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
So now you ask maybe the Arizona Cardinals, or you
ask you know, a team that's in between. And if
they say yeah, I think he'll be there, they're not
thinking about subconsciously, they're innswer the question we won't take him.
And if they say, hey, I don't think he's gonna
make it there, that means they have him high up
on the board where they're going to consider him right.
So it's a very interesting question you can ask somebody
if you're in the in the draft situation, and you
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got to use it pointedly. You got to use it
carefully because you don't want to over and date it.
But you've got to pick an individual player that you say, hey,
do you think he'll make it to you? And that's
what I used to do with GMS. I used to
talk to teams and go, you know, I don't want
to tell boards. I'm just kind of curious, like, you know,
picking some butt guys that I thought were going to
go in front of me. Maybe when backtick in eighteen
or nineteen. You know, I talked to maybe a team
that was at twelve or thirteen, say, hey, do you
think that there's any way that Ryan Kerrigan makes it
(28:07):
to you at eighteen? And they're like, nah, he's certainly,
and I don't think he's gonna be there, you know,
and then suddenly it's like, okay, so they have him
high up on the board consider and that's kind of
inside information.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Can cold like I like that. Now you can even
tweak it even more and do the true like like
never ask a guest no, and go, what's the likelihood
that he gets to you?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Absolutely? And again it's a it's a tell that they're
going to use within the organization. You could do it
as the head coach. You could certainly do it to
the general manager, because those two are gonna have the
best sense of like who they really want to take
as compared to maybe what the overall feeling might be
in a building.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Last week, going we talked to dominic Key told us
how he would find these mock drafters and totally give them,
Like how did you find that information when they were
completely off the set, Like they weren't even they weren't
even in the same county. So there's a you see
the little backway deal of general managers here, all right?
I aggress you mentioned number five. Number five right now
(29:05):
is the Chargers. It is Doug's team. Is there such
a thing as first pick of your tenuere? Like, is
this are we making Jim Harbaugh's first pick as the
Chargers head coach? Are we making a bigger deal out
of it than maybe it actually is? Or is this
actually a big deal because it's pick number one of
his tenure with the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
No, I think it's a big deal. But I think
it's a big deal because I don't expect the Chargers
to be up there again for a long time. You know,
I think that they're going to be able to put
together an offense here that is going to be very exciting,
and I think they're going to have the pick of
the litter for the most part in terms of so
I want an offensive tackle, do I want the tight
end or do I want the wide receiver? And I
think that they're is coming down to all three, and
(29:46):
I think that the offensive line is like we said
last week, I still think that's a sneaky in play
move that the Chargers could do to kind of solidify,
you know, justin Herbert in terms of protecting their most
important asset. It's not the sexiest pick. It's more sexy
to take brock Powers or you know, whichever receiver happens
to be there at five. But I can understand that
all three of those are in play. But I think
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they're just so critical that they've got to get it right,
because again, I don't think the charge is going to
be in this kind of situation again next year the
following because I think Carbo is going to make this
team a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Wow. From your lips to God's ears, the Chargers will
actually achieve the level of their talent. But but let me okay, so,
but if we look at what the Chargers have done,
it does feel like they're crafting this offense under the
guidance of Greg Roman. Right Like, you bring in, you know,
a tight end he drafted, he was there for a draft.
You know, you bring in a running back, You're you're
(30:40):
making this into a Greg Roman offense. Doesn't that stream? Hey,
go get Brock Powers where you have another pass catching
tight end.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, I think it does. I actually think it does.
And I think a lot of people who are mocking
Brock Powers at fifteen or sixteen are way off one
where the NFL club see Brock Powers as a player
and then it was possible.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh he's amazing. He's amazing, am he's the best playing
in SEC.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I don't dis I mean, he's a great, great football
player at a pivotal position. And it's a quarterback's best friend.
And in the end, you know, kind of what you
think about what Greg Roman's done, and especially when he
was in Baltimore, what.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Did they do?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
They drafted guy the draft guys maybe late wide receivers
in the first round, but second and third round where
they take the vertical guys. So the worthy, the guys
that can run vertical. That's where the Baltimore Ravens have
always done that. They push your defense down the field
to open up stuff underneath from Mark Andrews or the
run game. And so I think that they're going to do.
I think they'll do tight end or offensive line if
it's a shock, but I think the wide receivers later
(31:38):
in the draft because I think they're going to get
vertical guys like they've always done before when Roman was
the offense coordinator in Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
There we go. Hey man, this INSIGHT's amazing. Love have
you on my show. Love you having on this show.
Hope you have a great weekend.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Thanks so much for joining us, guys, thanks for having
me on. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Two weeks to two weeks. Mark Dominic joins us here
in the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. What
is incredible, by the way, I just great, dude, incredible,
valuable asset, Like giving you the whole Like, here's how
you get your information. Uh, I'm Doug Gottlieb. He's Dan
Byron in for Dan and the Danettes here and the
(32:12):
Dan Patrick's show. What would it be like to see
your son get called up to the bigs when you're
a former big leaguer. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Our next guest knows he'll join us. I'm the Dan
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Speaker 2 (32:43):
Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byron for Dan Patrick, Dan The Danetes You,
and The Dan Patrick Show Foxsports Radio. So look, I
think everybody thinks of these moments in an athlete's career
year that are unique and special, like what you'd what
(33:06):
you have in base baseball is because of the true
minor league system, maybe because of how we've the movies
like Bull Durham, Like the idea of getting a call
up from the to the show from the minor leagues
is something that sounds really really cool.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Then when you.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Factor in, well, it's a former number one overall pick
who it was only a year and a half ago,
is number one pick and oh yeah, by the way,
he's the son of a dear friend of mine who
is an All star in his own right, and it
happens even cooler. So we've kind of on my show,
The Doug Gottlieb Show, which airs every day at three
eastern New Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we've kind of
(33:45):
all adopted Jackson Holiday is like our guy to watch
this year in baseball, to pay attention to baseball. But
the guy who he actually it's actually his son doesn't
have to adopt him is Matt Holliday, and he joins
us now on the Dan Patrick Show. Matt, how you what, Doug?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Ho are we doing?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Good man?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
What what is that like to watch your son play
in the bigs?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Well, it's really exciting. Uh it was, you know, I
expected it at some point this year, obviously didn't didn't
know when, and and so, uh when he called me
a couple of nights ago and and said that he
was he was headed to Boston, uh pretty cool, pretty
cool feeling, and pretty exciting for our family. So we
immediately pivoted and tried to figure out how we were
(34:31):
going to get to Boston the next day and and
get to the game and uh try to get everybody
that wanted to be there, uh to the game. And uh,
so it was it was pretty exciting obviously. Fenway Park
is a is a historic venue for baseball and and
a lot of things up. You know, I had a
chance to play in a couple of World Series. Is
there and really cool place, uh to make your debut
(34:53):
and and to uh get a chance to go and
watch him fulfill his dream of playing in the Major
League and uh do it on a really good team
and in a really cool environment. It's a lot of fun.
So we we had a great time and now we
just landed in Baltimore's catch a catch their his first
game as an Oriole in Baltimore tonight. Uh, so that's
(35:13):
exciting too. So it's a it's a fun time and
really enjoy watching him pursue.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
You know his passion and what he loves to do,
and that's by baseball.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I know Oriole fans probably wish he was called up sooner,
but you talk about us kind of it's it's going
to happen. The day he was drafted, what did you
think that the plan was? I know, not thing's a given,
but in your mind, what are you thinking of, Like,
all right, this is when we're going to see him
in the bigs.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Well, you know that that I understand how challenging in
baseball is and how you know, the minor leagues, particularly
for a kid coming out of high school, you know,
can be can be a challenge, and so uh my expectations.
I think at the press conference he said his goal
was to be there within two years, and I would
to myself with thinking, Chief actually like that, that's pretty quick,
Like you're you know, this is a hard deal. It
(36:00):
was a hard game. And so I don't think that,
you know, particularly with him, when he puts his mind
to something, he's he's pretty relentless and and pretty uh
you knows he's done, done what he said he's he's
going to do, and and so uh, to make it
this fast has been pretty remarkable. Uh to be you know,
twenty years old and in the major league, Uh, after
(36:22):
being drafted less than two years ago. And you know,
I'm I'm really proud of him. He puts in the
work and and he's mentally very tough and very focused,
and uh he does everything right as far as eating
and sleeping and watches you know how much make sure
he's he's doing everything he can have success on the field.
So I didn't really know to answer your question how
(36:44):
long it would take. I would he gets probably a
little bit longer than it's taken. But and knowing how
focused and determined the kid he is, I'm not really surprised.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't know if you ever shared this story, but
it's when I remember Matt Holidays. Our guest, of course,
is Jackson, the number one overall of the Orioles a
year and a half ago, just got called up to
the BIGS as the Orioles were playing in Boston. Now
now returning home. Of course, Matt's a seven time All
Star in his own rights, won a couple of World
Series as well. Okay, so when he was younger and
(37:16):
I people ask all the time, like, no, what how
what is that like for Jackson? What's he really like?
And I was like, dude, the most humble, thoughtful kid,
And I remember this story and tell me if I'm wrong.
You guys used to when he was little and Leslie
would go to Target, she would do a deal where
(37:36):
she'd run the credit card when they'd pay, and Jackson,
they'd like, Jackson would sit there saying a little prayer
that they'd have it, you'd have enough money for it
to go through, right, am I remembering the story ride.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
Yeah, yeah, he yeah, he and Ethan were always concerned that,
you know, the target trips when the basket would get
to full, that if if we'd have enough money to
uh to get the to get all the things that
were in the basket. So I don't I don't know
if we how much many things were in those baskets,
(38:12):
but yeah, they were. They were concerned that that the
credit card wouldn't be able to cover it, and so
Letslie just played along and she'd be like, I don't know,
we'll see I mean, if not, we'll have to start
taking back.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I I only I only bring it up because like, seriously,
how do you guys? How do you guys do it?
Like Ethan's going to be a star as well still
Otur high school. He's in some of he's number one
rate of prospect in his class. But how do you
do how do you as a major leaguer and all
star when you have so many things that other people want?
How do you do it to where you do? You
(38:45):
have kids that are not only successful, but they're hungry
for more. That's really the thing that so many of
us who have young athletes that we want and when
you're raised in fair affluence, you think they're not going
to have that hunger.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the I
don't know if there's a magic bullet on that. I
think just you know, I think them understanding what it
took and getting a chance to be around me, uh
in my career, and getting a chance to watch all
my teammates, and I think then then identifying the level
of work that it takes to play at the highest
level and for them to see, you know, the best
(39:21):
players and what they you know, the work that's put in,
I think was really good for them to understand. And
I think it also it uh, it created a passion
I think for the game and for wanting to do
that for a living and for them wanting to be
pro baseball players. I think being around it and it's
(39:43):
you know, it kind of provoked them to want to
want to do that. And so I always told him,
you know, I would throw to them or hit them
ground balls or whatever they wanted to do all day
if if it was their idea. But I wasn't going
to force them that. I wasn't going to make them
go practice that in baseball. Really, you know, in all sports,
as you know, you have to have a passion for
the practice, and you have to love the behind the
(40:05):
scene work, and you have to love the the the
skill development just as much as you love the game
in front of a ton of people and the good
the four for fours and the highs of of of
winning and and and and being you know, the sort
of the star player. You have to love all of
the process just as much because that's how hard, you know,
(40:27):
the sport is at the highest level that you have
to continue to work and and and and fight for
every day that that every day is a competition you
challenge and if you don't you can get embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I mean it really is.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
And individual league night you're playing the best of bringing
it both mentally and physically. Uh, I mean, you have
to have to bring it on hundred percent every night.
And I think that the fact that they were raised
in that environment really you know, helped them understand what
it took. And and then like I said, the out
(41:00):
their passion for the practice.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Quick one for you met holiday before we let you go.
When Doug Gottlieb stays with you, does he also put
his feet on your furniture? Like he does sometimes at work.
Speaker 7 (41:12):
Uh yeah, but that's really invited our house.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
We have four dogs and we have you know, it's
it's uh, it fits right in. Yeah, so it's it's
it's uh everyone puts their feet everywhere, so it's uh,
it's it's right up. He probably learned that at our house.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Doesn't have you have three dogs in Trooper. Nobody likes Trooper. Nobody, nobody, nobody,
nobody likes Nobody likes Trooper.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Hey man, I'm so happy. I can't wait to see
Jackson he comes out to the big a uh next week.
Safe travels for you, guys, and let's see if Jackson
get his first home run night off Peralta.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
That was good, all right, thanks for having me on guys.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
All right, it's Matt Holiday joining us. Is just a
real close friend of mine. But can you imagine, like
you strip it all away, you've you've done all that
stuff yourself, and you know they work literally every day
in the barn at Matt's house on hitting and to
see your twenty year old kid like get called up,
I don't know's I've had a lot of dad moments.
(42:11):
That's a pretty good one, pretty good, pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
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