May 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Pittsburgh Steelers insider Gerry Dulac drops by with all the details of the George Pickens trade. And Hall of Famer Ray Allen joins the show to talk some NBA Playoffs.
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other news being finalized this morning, the Steelers dump wide
receiver George Pickens to the Cowboys for draft picks, and
I'm not so. I think that there was a lot
of chatter leading up to the draft that they were
trying to do this, or they might do this, and
then I thought, are they going to draft a wide receiver,
which they didn't, and then George Pickens goes to the Cowboys.
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You look at the Pittsburgh side of this and you go,
what's this mean for Aaron Rodgers? If anything, he's going
to say, well, I got DK Metcalf and a couple
of guys that're not familiar with, got a pretty good
tight end, got rid of Nog Harris. Maybe it's Mason
Rudolph's team, but this guy would know better than I.
It's Jerry Dulac joining us again. Steeler's coverage with the
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Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Steelers Radio network. How surprised
were you that this move took place?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I was, obviously.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I wasn't shocked because I knew they were going to
move on him at some point.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They were never going to give George Pickens a second contract.
That was never going to happen, And I never thought
they would just let him walk when they didn't take
a receiver. I thought they were content to go into
the season with a you know, a double barreled receiving
room with DK Metcalf and George Pickens. But you know,
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a coach told me this a long time ago, Dan,
and it's still true. When the production outweighs the aggravation,
you keep them. When the aggravation out weighs the production,
you get rid of them. And that's what happens with
George Pickens. They just thought that, you know, his teammates.
It was a problem in the locker room. It became
a problem with Mike Tomlin. It wasn't just his on
field temperament and behavior, you know, repeated violations off the field,
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late for meetings, skipping meetings, late to games. It was
just on and on, and it just got to the
point where they weren't especially after they traded for DK Metcalf,
they just weren't going to tolerat it anymore.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Dan, what are the Cowboys getting?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
They're getting, you know, both a problem and problematic receiver.
There's no question he is a big play guy. But
you know, I severely doubt that his on the field
temperament is going to change. You know, they're going to
deal with a guy who's you know, is he all
of a sudden be going to become a mister discipline?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't mean to pick on the guy. I only
know what they saw and what we saw for three
years with the Steelers, so there's no question about his
talent level. But you know, sometimes it's it's about more
than just talent level in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
This move impact Aaron Rodgers' decision.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know, I don't think so. They don't think so.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know, from their end, it doesn't have any impact
at all on whether he signs with the team. I
will say this, Dan, And of course this was certainly
no motivation for making the deal. But Aaron Rodgers didn't
get to where he is as a future Hall of
Famer by being an undisciplined fly by the CD of
Pans quarterback, which is kind of the description you can
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apply to George pick You know, I think Aaron Rodgers
is a very detailed quarterback, and I don't think he
is on the field relationship with George Pickens, who is anything,
but that would mesh very well, So, you know it.
I don't want to say it might be a blessing
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and enticement for Aaron Rodgers to come. I don't think
that at all, But I don't know that it would
have been a good mix here anyhow.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Any news on the Aaron Rodgers front.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I wish I could tell you some, Dan, I mean
I check all the time, and you know they you know,
as I've told you before, he told them up front
he's going to take his time. They are willing to
do that. They are still willing to do that. You know,
Mini camp is in uh excuse me, ot as the
rookies are in this weekend and OTA's start two weeks
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after that.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
There's still time.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And then of course, you know, you get into the
mini camp, which is a I gauge everything about the
US Open coming to Oakmont of the twelve through to fifteenth,
which is where Mini camp is. So you know there's
still time.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
For him to come.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Is there a plan B.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, you touched on it, Mason Rodgers. But I think
even if that is the case, Dan, they will go
out and sign some other veteran quarterback. I really don't
think they are going to rely on a sixth round pick,
even though I like Will Howard in that spot. I
don't think they're really going to rely on a rookie
being a backup. Their history has always been to have
two quarterbacks with NFL starting experience on their roster, and
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even though some of those have been picked over, that's
one of the downsides of this Aaron Rodgers delay. I
still believe they will try to sign some veteran quarterback
to come in and be the number two behind Mason
Rudolph if Aaron Rodgers falls through. But they firmly believe
Dan that he is coming.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But if you look at where they are talent level,
you know, are they the third best team in their division?
Would you put obviously Baltimore? Would you put Cincinnati above them?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, Dan, last year, after acquiring Russell Wilson and
Patrick Queen and Deshaun Elliott and the moves they made,
they were nine win team. The year before, I automatically
thought they were a better team based on their offseason.
I thought they were a ten win team. I don't
right now think they are a better team than last year.
So I don't know if that means it's ten wins,
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eleven wins, nine wins, or eight wins. I don't think
they're an eight win team, you know, Mike Tomlins, history
has shown that they are just not that a sub
five hundred team. But you know, the Bengals, as long
as they have that quarterback and their receivers, their defense
is very suspect. You know, you know they finished Steelers
finished second last year. I don't think they're the best
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in the division by any stretch, So it might be
a coin flip how it goes with the Bengals, depending
on Joe Burrow's health. If he stays healthy, they're gonna
be tough.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We saw that at the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Steelers gonna pony up for TJ.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Watt.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, I think so, Dan, You know, you go back
in their history, I can't think of one player, one
of their star players, basically in their prime, that they
have ever let walk. I can't think of one. I
go back to Franco Harris, which was toward the end
of his career, and Dan Rooney admitted quietly admitted after
that it was the biggest professional mistake he ever made.
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He should have just signed Franco for everything he meant
to the franchise.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Watt doesn't want to leave, and they don't want him
to leave, so I expect that to happen.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
I'll leave you with this.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
With Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin's not afraid to bring in guys
who are suspect the headaches. You know, if you look
at Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, Chase Claypool, you got. I mean,
they've gone through a lot of wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
It feels like.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They can't and then they don't draft one when they
need to draft one. Do they get enough criticis do
the Steelers get criticized locally for the kind of the
randomness of some of these players that they bring in.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I don't think there's any question they get criticized locally
for it. Dan, I mean, and that is one of
you know, to me, I don't want to see her
and call it a Mike Tomlin faulk. But Mike Tomlin
believes that he can, you know, work through these guys
and and kind of, you know, get them onto the
Steeler way, and you roll the dice with some of
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those guys, and you know, you look back, you know
even you know, you look at Juju Smith Schuster when
he came in, and he's not nearly the problem that
some of the other guys were. But you mentioned Chase Claypole,
Antonio Brown, and they're still sensitive to everything that happened
with Antonio Brown. And that's why they knew they weren't
going to give George Pickens a second contract because if
he was acting this way without the big money, what
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do you think he was going to do once he
got the big money. So yeah, I think it's uh.
I think that people here are very much aware of it,
and I think you pointing it up shows that maybe
nationally some people becoming a little bit more aware of
it as well.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know why I always go back to this
play when Antonio Brown got concussed by Vontez Burfek, it
felt like his personality changed. Now you being around the
team on a daily basis, but he went from being
this great story. He was on the path to be
a Hall of Famer. And I don't know if you
can pinpoint that concussion that changed Antonio Brown.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You know, then that kind of theory has been advanced.
I have been told, you know, medically, that that wasn't
the case. The Steelers believe that the money changed Antonio Brown.
But whatever it was, that sense of entitlement reached a point.
You know, they traded him for a fifth round pick,
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so people think like they're getting short changed for a
third round pick for George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They are not.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I think they're a little spoiled by the fact that
they got a second round pick from for Chase Claypool
from the desperate.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Chicago Go Bear.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
But you know, I don't know if you know this
from not Dan. For five years I did a weekly
radio show with Antonio Brown.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And I did.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I liked the kid, I did.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But you saw him later the last couple of years
change and his insubordination that last year with the Steelers,
from from his teammates to his coaches, to the general
manager to the team owner was unlike anything I've ever
seen happen in the Steeler family, and so that's why
they had.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
To move on from him.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Great stuff. We'll be in touch this summer. Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
All right, Dan, you got it man, all right?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Government the Steelers for decades. Jerry Doula for the Pittsburgh
Post Gazette, Steelers Radio Network. You know, George Pickens was
off some draft boards when he was coming out of Georgia.
He was off draft boards, and he was considered a
obviously a high end talent, but you know it was
buyer beware and Mike Tomlin must think, hey all change them.
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But even Tomlin not changing these guys, as you know,
discipline as he is, as tough as he is demanding
as he is, they draft some guys and you go,
what are you thinking? This isn't the Pittsburgh Steeler way.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Yes, you know the only thing that I thought about
with the George Pickens trade, it seems like a negative
towards Aaron Rodgers. However, it does seem like Aaron Rodgers
when he comes in, he's like, and these are the
four guys I'm bringing with me.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
There is maybe the possibility that.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
The Steelers are clearing space for him so that then
he can get you know, all of his Jordy Nelson's.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
I mean, I knew it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I was just thinking, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, let's bring
him in les.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
We need.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And then boy Dollar. And yes, when you.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Look at the Cowboys, they're accustomed to bringing in guys
with baggage, so you think they're prepared to deal with it.
But it also seems the opposite, like going to Dallas
if you have issues already, would seem to exacerbate it,
not control it well.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And all of these guys one third touches, you know,
Ceedee Lamb is your guy. Ferguson's a good tight end now,
and Picking's gonna go, how can I get this next contract?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's just that that's a Molotov cocktail where you just go, hey,
come on in.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yeah, it feels like in that position though, you need
two guys to have one guy. You need, you need
somebody to help Ceedee Lamb get open. So now you
got now you got two.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, I don't know, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Seed.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
He better get his touches though, That's all I'm saying, right,
yeah he will. That's the guy right there.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Man.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I love that if he does, and his mom's gonna
get mad at Dak Prescott. First thing we got to
do is get him off the Cowboys and then his career.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Is send him to the commanders. Josh in Pennsylvania, Hi, Josh,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
As Ceedee Lamb is your guy? Ferguson's a good time, Josh?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Hi from Las Vegas?
Speaker 9 (13:25):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Oh so wait I got Dawn?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Well, okay, where's Josh?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm here?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Okay dp uh five ten fifty kids. I'm just saying
I put money on the Giants making the playoffs over
the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Oh okay, uh with.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Their defense and sophomore wide receiver and our veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Does anybody want a piece of Josh that the the
Giants will make the playoffs?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Paul, make the playoffs, make the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (14:06):
Yeah, take that, take just send over the money.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now, all right?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How about a pie to the face, Josh, A pie
to the face. I'll take it, all right, fair enough?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
All right?
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Is that the New York Giants just double checking?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Rick?
Speaker 7 (14:19):
And Oh wait, I have to just quickly so that
bet was that the Giants will make the play.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He says they will. The bet that I had.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
With Paul and Jay earlier was that the Cowboys won't
make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
You guys are taking the Cowboys won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
So Paul, you're taking that the Giants are in the
playoffs and the Cowboys are out of the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
He's got the Giants not in the playoffs, okay, and
then the Cowboys aren't gonna be in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
But Shay didn't take that bet. Okay, got it. I'm
just trying to keep the bets straight here. Thank you
Rick in Ohio? Hi, Rick, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (14:51):
Hey Dan? Thanks for taking the call. Take a look
at the Pittsburgh receivers. What do you think about Amari
Cooper who had three pretty good years in Cleveland without
a quarterback last year. Not a real good performer with Buffalo.
But none of the receivers really stood out. But give
me a great possessive receiver I think for the wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Yeah, I don't is he available?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know what he's going to call us, I
don't know his age, I don't you know, haven't studied
the depth chart here with some of these receivers who
are going to be available. I like Amari Cooper, but
you know, didn't seem to do much in Buffalo. Now
is fourteen, so you know, there's an expiration date for
all of these guys. Depending on what position you play,
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you got about five to seven years and that's about it.
When if you're a running back or wide receiver, you
know less than that. Maybe for a running back.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yeah, Marvin Amari Cooper, Halla, very good. Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Hall of good, Yeah, Halla good, pretty good, he got
paid pretty good?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Oh, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah did okay, one of the great shooters of all
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Speaker 2 (17:14):
This stat about the Indiana Pacers is just unbelievable. Since
nineteen ninety eight, playoff teams are three and one thousand,
six hundred and forty when trailing by seven points or
more in the final minute of the fourth quarter or
overtime in the playoffs. The Pacers own two of those
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three wins in both this postseason. Somehow, some way came
back to win that game last night, but they needed
a little bit of help from the Cleveland Cavaliers to
do so. And also Golden State probably without Steph Curry
going into Game two after stealing Game one last night.
A couple of game twos tonight, and you got the
Celtics and the Knicks, and then you have the Nuggets
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and the thunder Ray Allen Hall of Famer and two
time NBA champ joining us on the program. You put
up all those numbers in Seattle. You spent five years
in Seattle, correct, yep? Okay, are those numbers now attached
to the Oklahoma City Thunder since the SuperSonics went to Oka.
See like, could your jersey number be retired by OKAC
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based off what you did in Seattle?
Speaker 13 (18:23):
Technically I think it could be, but I think for
tradition speaking, you know, typically you raise a banner or
jersey in a place that is kind of familiar to
that city. And nobody in Oklahoma City really had ever
watched me play in that city, so I don't think.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And it's ownership mandate as well, so I don't think
that would ever happen.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Is there a building where your jersey is up in
the rafters in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (18:58):
In Key Arena, Okay, I would say possibly, but it's
kid and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't even know they use it for anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Okay, here's a couple of things I'm want to talk
to you about. The Celtics keep shooting threes the other night? Yeah, now,
you had a game. I think you went over thirteen
from three point range. But as a great shooter, you're
told to keep shooting. But at what point do you
stop shooting threes? If you're the Celtics the other night?
Or do you stop shooting threes?
Speaker 13 (19:30):
Well, the other night, I think the Celtics shot sixty
threes and they were shooting them at points when the
Knicks kept kind of plugging them away, and they're plugging
away and they're playing, they're playing tougher, they're getting tougher buckets.
The next word, obviously Brussel's getting so many mid range shots,
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so he had a great offensive rhythm. I don't think
the Celtics ever built their rhythm offensively. Now they take
a lot of threes early, and they take them throughout
the game and when they're going because you got multiple
guys that shoot threes and shoot them well. But if
you never build a rhythm, you know, get into the basket,
getting to the free throw line, to the mid range game.
That's kind of where there was a hole in that
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game for the Celtics other night. So to answer your question,
they got to figure out getting some easy buckets, you know,
just kind of establishing rhythm as opposed to just kind
of let the fly consistently. Because it's the playoffs, it
changes a lot because now those shots become smaller opportunities
and they're shooting quicker, and it's important for them to
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try to figure out a way to get some rhythm
stuff start in the game.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Early.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I just thought, you know, go inside, get fouled,
go to the free throw line, get like, let's break
up all this and just get something there. That's what
was surprising. But the analytics say, I think to keep
shooting the threes, don't they.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
Well, obviously, because threes are more than two's, and that's
what everybody says. You keep shooting them, and they've been
highly successful at it. So it's hard to stop what
you've been doing and what's made you successful this whole year.
But you have to take into account that the game
does slow down a little bit more in the playoffs,
and you're putting so much pressure on Tatum. He makes
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a lot of tough threes. Jalen went to the basket
and got a layup at one point during that fourth quarter,
and I was like, okay, that steady the offense a
little bit. And you see them and you want them
to drive because you look at the Knicks defense. You
know there's a lot of holes in their defense if
you just drive. There's a couple of times where even
Derek White had the ball in the paint and the
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basket was behind him. And he's looking out towards the
Berman as supposed to just turn around to get something easy,
and it is hopefully. You know, they'll look at the
film and you know, I'm sure Missoula will say, these
are just shots that we missed. You know, we're all
capable of making they shots, but to make it easier
on yourself, you know, it's hard in a playoff situation
because you know you could make those shots. So I
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just think to start the game tonight, they had to
make sure that they get to the free throw line
early and establish something in the paint from the standpoint
of driving and getting some easy stuff. Because as a shooter,
I'll tell you I did not want to start a
game shooting at three because if you miss, then you
start pressing, and then you start pressing. I didn't want
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to have to feel like I was pressing. In Boston,
we had so many good players that score, so I
want to make sure I got to the basket early
if I could.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Talking to Ray Allen, former three point Shooting Contest winner
back in two thousand and one, do you practice missing
free throws? We saw that with Tyrese Haliburton, because you
know he's got to miss the free throw, but you
got to miss it correctly to get a chance. Do
you practice missing free throws?
Speaker 13 (22:50):
Well, I mean it sounds funny, but you know how
to miss and it's just kind of being off and
obviously you're looking to who your best rebounder is on
what side. So yeah, there is some precision to being
able to miss a free throw. I can't say that
I practiced it, but I definitely know how to aim
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up there and get it to bounce on one side
or the other.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, you did practice making them, though, you did a
really good job at that.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I did.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I did.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I was pretty good at it.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Yeah, but I never understood that.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Explain to me what happens when guys go to the
free throw line and all of a sudden they they
free You know, they're it's not fluid. They like everything slows,
you know, it stops. Maybe that's what it is. Guys
you used to moving, all of a sudden, it stops.
But the mind games that go on with these guys
who can't shoot free throws.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
Well, it's simpler when you think about golf. When you
stand to the t box and they call your name
and they say where you're from. Exactolyades, and all of
a sudden, they everybody's quiet. I was like, keep making noise.
Uncomfortable in noise, you know, don't be quiet. I think
what people And I say this a lot with free
throw People don't understand how emotional a free throw is.
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You know, when you think about a guy going to
the free throw line, and emotions don't always mean anger,
but your your adrenaline is pumping. You just got knocked
on your butt. You know you're either down to or
you're up to. You just dunked on somebody. All these
emotions are inside of you, and for most players, imagine
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a situation in practice where you practice those emotions. It's
hard to practice feeling competitive, to practice feeling angry, to
practice feeling anxious, practice feeling desperate. How do you do
that in the gym by yourself? And so you have
to figure out a way when you practice to take
that quiet gym and make yourself tired, make yourself mad,
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make yourself excited, because that feeling you have to get.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Used to in a game.
Speaker 13 (24:53):
And a lot of times, then when they get into
a game situation, it's a foreign situation for them when
they go to that free throw line, because think about
you take somebody life like Pritchard. You know, Gray Shooter
had a great year, but how often is he at
the free throw line in the fourth quarter if it's
not Tatum or Brown? So now he goes to the
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free throw line because it gets out is Sometimes it's
a foreign circumstance or situation for a lot of players,
and that's why you do get nervous because it's like,
I'm not used to this, and I gotta get used
to go.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I gotta be better at figuring out the situation.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
One thing that drives me crazy, and I'm sure I
drive my audience crazy because I bring it up all
the time. I never want the best player to beat me. Never,
I'm always going to send another guy. I got to
get the ball out of your hands. I want somebody
who's not used to taking that shot. And if that
guy beats me, I live with that. It's like, you know,
when Jordan beats Brian Russell, they don't send another guy,
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and like, I got to get the ball out of
his hands, right, Like I don't help me understand that
if Jalen Brunson has the ball, I'm I'm gonna double.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I'm gonna get the.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Ball out of his hands. I have to do that.
But why don't more coaches do that?
Speaker 13 (26:07):
Well, I think it's a doubleted sword because when you
want you don't want the best player to beat you.
There's some scenarios, some playoff situations you kind of walk
into and you say, he's gonna get his forty.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But we can't let these other guys get off, you know.
Speaker 13 (26:25):
So it is each situation from from series the series,
you know, what do you deal with? Like if you
look at Indiana, you got Nessmith that had twenty three,
and Turner had twenty three and nim Hard had thirteen.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I mean, this is the last shot though, This is
the last shot. That's all I'm talking about. Even Halliburton
has the ball, that's the guy I know who wants
the ball. I have to send another guy his way.
I'm not gonna let him beat me. And they gave him.
You know, he created space. It was a tough shot though,
but he I know, but he's only he's got single
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coverage on it.
Speaker 13 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean it's always we can be perfect defensively
as a as a scheme, you know, going to the game,
but we always say good offense, better defense or good
defense better offense.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
We're playing a scheme a certain way and then a
guy makes a tough shot over the top of us.
We have to shake their head because this league is
fulled filled with great offensive players, so they can, like
I said, it can go either way. You know, we'll
run to at a guy because he got hot. Saif
a guy has forty plus, you know, I don't know.
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Halliburton only had nineteen points last night, so it wasn't
like he was cooking.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
But he's a closer.
Speaker 13 (27:41):
Yeah, But you just kind of you live with those
odds because if you look at defenses and you look
at all these playoff games, the one thing that you
find fascinating is there's there's no paint presence.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Last night, I don't know who, I don't remember. It
was Draymond Green.
Speaker 13 (27:59):
He came straight down on the lane and dunked it
and there was no awareness from Minnesota whatsoever. And that's
the one thing in playoff basketball that you kind of
you know, you fortify your defense with a paint presence,
and you work from inside out, and you see that
consistently because you know, so many teams are shooting threes
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and then you look at the ball, the way the
ball bounced, you know, against against what the Golden State,
and you see how many rebounds they got in Minnesota's
the bigger team, you know, you think about how many
rebounds they didn't get. Go Bear had eleven and I
think Anthony had fourteen or somewhere around there. But those
balls are bounds a so long, so it's spreading the
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defense out. And then you're trying to figure out what
we try to do. On most teams I played on,
we tried to keep our big guy in the paint.
You know, we rotated with playing man to man, So
if it was myself and KG, I tried to stay
up top and you stayed low. So if somebody did drive,
they had to see him. And right now you just
don't see that that fortification of the paint, and there's
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so many holes right now in their defense. So that's
ultimately a system where it's built around team shooting threes.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
What's your favorite pair of shoes behind you?
Speaker 13 (29:11):
My favorite pair, I would have to go up. I'd
have to go up one, two, three, four. If I
can show.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You, oh my goodness, you got a whole wall, this
one right here, okay, number four.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
So those are how many of those are Air Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
They're one through thirty, one through thirty.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You might sign any shoes that you have. No, you
wouldn't ask him.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
I haven't, Like I have a jersey just hang on
my wall, and I played golf with them regularly. I
wouldn't ask them. But I think at some point I
should here in the future, just for keep, say, just
have momentum. And I know he would if I asked them,
but but I thought about it, but I haven't done
it yet.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, but if you have them in the back of
the golf cart and then you know Mike probably sees them,
and then you go, oh god, yeah, sorry, I thought
I was going to leave these in the car.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And then you have a sharpie attached to it. Then
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
See that I'm a vet right here.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
DP.
Speaker 13 (30:28):
That's like the rookie move to do that. If somebody
did that to me, I'd be looking. I'm like, really
really do oh you really left it with the sharpie
on the on taped up to it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Okay, what if you send somebody that you guys, guys
used to do this where you'd send the clubhouse guy
over to get something signed by somebody in the other
locker room.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Right, okay, did that?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Did it?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'll tell you a story. One time when I was
playing in Milwaukee.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
I was always early and the bus wasn't there yet,
so I took it ab over and I'm sitting in
the locker room. So our equipment manager didn't get our
gear out yet. So I'm sitting in the locker room
and I'm antsy trying to get on the court. And
you know, the United senter was always freezing, so you
wanted to come like bundled. So I'm sitting there and
the equipment guy from the Bulls comes to the locker room.
(31:18):
He goes, you guys didn't get here yet. I said, no,
they're not here. I'm just waiting on him. He goes,
Mike's on the other side. You know, he has some stuff.
Maybe you want to ask him. And I was like really,
and he's like, yeah, but you got to ask him.
You got to go in there and ask him. And
you know, this was I'm probably like three years in
the league, and I'm like, ask go over there and ask.
I was like, can you ask for me? He goes, no,
you got to ask me, And so I went in
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there and I was like, Mike, you think I could
borrow a pair of shoes? And I'm already wearing the
shoes anyway, I'm under contract. And He's like, sure, kid,
you know. And in the in the hall, I walked
in the cabinet full of Jordan's just like all the
way down there, all the swool.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
That was cool.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Where are those shoes?
Speaker 13 (31:59):
I don't know, there's somewhere float And I got so
many shoes like tucked everywhere.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
We brought this up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The Hall of very Good, like the guys that you
played against or with, like Jamal Crawford in the Hall
of very Good. Not a Hall of Famer, but you
know a hall of very good. Who would you put
in there? Maybe you played against, you know, contemporaries where
you go. That guy should be in the Hall of
very Good. Not a Hall of Famer, but hall of
very good.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Did I played with?
Speaker 13 (32:27):
I would definitely say two players that just you know,
one in particular that would kill the game today is
then Baker.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Okay, he just he was around the basket.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
I didn't think anybody could stop him, and he still
could shoot, you know, in the primer, he would be
really good in today's game. And and obviously, you know,
these are two guys that I played with my rookie
year in Glenn Robinson and you know, arguably one of
the greatest college players of all time. And I think
they don't get their their their it, but there were
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incredible scores and and when I watched then nobody could
stop them.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
So they were good and they just ended up not
being on teams once they left milwaukkeeoplehere they had any
any symbols of success. But I thought they're incredible. And
so you look at the game today, we don't have those.
You know, you talk about those mid range players, those
pick great pick and role players. Think about Terrell Brandon.
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He was dubbed best point guard in the world. Sports
illustrated like this. He was he was split a pick
and roll. His mid range game, he was automatic and
I learned a lot from him. You know, just playing
with those three guys helped my game tremendously. Uh And
we don't have that that skill level right now in
the NBA because of the overuse of the three ball.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I still keep I can't get it out of
my mind that you're wearing Michael Jordan's shoes playing against
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
Well, just remember my second game in the NBA. My
first game was Minnesota Timberwolves a preseason and the second
one and I seen the schedule. So I was still
in my college apartment when I got the schedule in
October fifteenth, nineteen ninety three, Chicago Bulls United Center, and
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I'm sitting there. I still got poster him on my
wall right here in my room, and I'm like, I'm
about to play against Michael Jordan, So I'm wearing his
shoes on October fifteen. I'm stretching and then I hear
the whole introduction, and you know, I'm used to being
on the other side looking at the TV watching all
this stuff happen, and now I'm like, wow, this is
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so crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I'm inside the TV right now, you know.
Speaker 13 (34:44):
And then I'm sitting here on the ground stretching and
I'm doing this and I'm just kind of and I
see the Bulls run out and he's the last one,
and I couldn't believe it, you know, just as much
as I watched him and kind of like studied his
game and he he was kind of he was such
a big role model. Then being on the same floor
with him, it was just unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Did he talk trash toad?
Speaker 13 (35:08):
No, But at jump Bald he walks over to me
and he said, welcome to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Ray, Like, you just don't.
Speaker 13 (35:18):
Understand like this man he's you know, to be great,
you also have to be intelligent. You know, you can't
walk around and be oblivious.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
To the things around you.
Speaker 13 (35:28):
So he knows everybody who's playing against you, study your opponents,
you watch the draft. You know who's young and come
into the league. And so as us young players, we're
so naive to that idea. You start to realize how
much you have to immerse yourself in this game and
you have to know every player in the league. You
can't just think that, oh, I'm the best player, I
don't care about anybody. You really have to study this
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game and who's in it. What's on your shirt Jesus
shooting a jumper doing.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
The jump shot.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's not Jesus shuttles Worth, that's Jesus the playwork.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
I don't know about Jesus form though.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Ray, Yeah, this one a we got. We'll work with him.
We'll give him a pass. We definitely will give him
a pass.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Thank you, Ray, good to talk to you again. That's
Ray Dylan Hall of Famer. We'll take a break back
after this.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
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Speaker 2 (36:32):
E me Earlier in the show last hour, we were
talking about the Kentucky Derby winner Sommerty is not going
to run in the Preakness, We'll run in the Belmont.
And I thought that NBC carried all three and I
was told that Fox has the Belmont. Because I thought,
if I'm NBC, I'm going to flex my TV muscles
and dollars and say, we have to ensure that if
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we have somebody winning the Derby and we really think
that they're legitimate triple Crown threat, but it's best for
the sport if the horse is running. But Sovereignty is
not going to run in the Preakness, but his scheduled
to run in the Belmont. Also, I saw this story
and we've seen this before with different obituaries. There's a
(37:17):
guy in Illinois who passed away in April In his obituary,
his family wrote that he passed away after a short
illness on Wednesday evening, April twenty third, at his home
surrounded by family, but then added he couldn't face another
White Sox season after last year's record breaking meltdown. He
(37:39):
also went on to say that he hates the Cubs
in his obituary.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
One last shot on the way.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, my favorite though this happened in twenty seventeen, and
you had a fan of the Washington Nationals. In his obituary,
he wrote or his family wrote, in lieu of flowers,
send donations to the National's Bullpened Fund.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
They were blowing a lot of games back then, twenty seventeen. Okay, uh,
we have a quick hockey game coming up.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay, what's the rules here for the quick hockey game?
Speaker 8 (38:19):
The iteam has just learned the name of the Utah
Hockey Club just announced the permanent name going from so
not the YETI so the finalists were the Utah Blizzard.
They could keep Utah Hockey Club, Mammoth, Outlaws, Venom, and Yetti.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
But I didn't think YETI was going to let them
the company YETI was going to let them use that
name correct.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
YETI and Yeti's could not be used because of conflict
of interest copyright infringement.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Okay, you think that, YETI would partner with them. I
would think I'm going to go.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
I'll run by again. Blizzard Hockey Club, Mammoth Outlaws, Venom.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I like hockey Club, but I'm gonna go Mammoth. Marvin,
I'm gonna go Outlaws, Okay, Seaton.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Jeepers, creepers. I love Utah Hockey Club, but they're not
gonna do that was a venom and option?
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Did I hear that?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I'll go Venom. How about you, Todd?
Speaker 7 (39:24):
I like Mammoth too for that?
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Okay, Todd, just give your answer. Yes, God, get to
the point. Say your answer.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
It's the Utah Mammoth.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, cuss up up. Okay, that is up.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Up.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Don't ask Todd to do that. Yes, Todd, but the
name is not official YETI they may still change it
at some point.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
From the fans about it. A blizzard of calf have
come into the will.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
They have a couple of guys in the Mammoth outfit current. Yes, yeah,
that's a two man job though, right, Nah, I think
you got one, you.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Know, you know what they did though, Now they got
where is it mammoth or are they the mammoths?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
You know, like the heat or they the heats?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
They made it one of those weird singular plural things.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
You know, we're collectively the mammoth. That's a good point
by you, Yes.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
Paul, mammoth plural is mammoth?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Great?
Speaker 8 (40:23):
You could drop the s forever so there's no mammoths no, like, yeah,
just mammoth.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Yes, yes, something corny they're gonna say, don't tusk with us?
Speaker 12 (40:39):
Yes, Todd, you could have a mammoth win, but you
can also have a mammoth defeat.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
You can can't sleep, okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Maybe they could have the song by Fleetwood mac Tusk
as their theme song.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Maybe their rivals when they beat them all say, you
guys are extinct, so.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
You've got their extinct.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I got Yeah, you got to hold your nose, you
guys extinct?
Speaker 9 (41:09):
You got there.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
You guys aren't even a relevant species right now? Yes?
Whose voice is that? Yes, Todd?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Can they have a private one where they offer mammoth
grams if you're having health insurance issues?
Speaker 12 (41:20):
And then maybe there's some kind of.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Marketing really Mammoth Graham.
Speaker 12 (41:25):
But the proper adoptors they just have, you know in
section twelve, is going.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
To check it out.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, doctor Todd's the fact that it's coming from You
will have.
Speaker 12 (41:32):
To be the actual physician that can do that.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
P K suban former hockey player now an analyst for
the Mothership. Will John is coming up. Nobody talks hockey
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other news being finalized this morning, the Steelers dump wide
receiver George Pickens to the Cowboys for draft picks, and
I'm not so. I think that there was a lot
of chatter leading up to the draft that they were
trying to do this, or they might do this, and
then I thought, are they going to draft a wide receiver,
which they didn't, and then George Pickens goes to the Cowboys.
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You look at the Pittsburgh side of this and you go,
what's this mean for Aaron Rodgers? If anything, he's going
to say, well, I got DK Metcalf and a couple
of guys that're not familiar with, got a pretty good
tight end, got rid of Nog Harris. Maybe it's Mason
Rudolph's team, but this guy would know better than I.
It's Jerry Dulac joining us again. Steeler's coverage with the
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Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Steelers Radio network. How surprised
were you that this move took place?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I was, obviously.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I wasn't shocked because I knew they were going to
move on him at some point.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They were never going to give George Pickens a second contract.
That was never going to happen, And I never thought
they would just let him walk when they didn't take
a receiver. I thought they were content to go into
the season with a you know, a double barreled receiving
room with DK Metcalf and George Pickens. But you know,
(02:13):
a coach told me this a long time ago, Dan,
and it's still true. When the production outweighs the aggravation,
you keep them. When the aggravation out weighs the production,
you get rid of them. And that's what happens with
George Pickens. They just thought that, you know, his teammates.
It was a problem in the locker room. It became
a problem with Mike Tomlin. It wasn't just his on
field temperament and behavior, you know, repeated violations off the field,
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late for meetings, skipping meetings, late to games. It was
just on and on, and it just got to the
point where they weren't especially after they traded for DK Metcalf,
they just weren't going to tolerat it anymore.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Dan, what are the Cowboys getting?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
They're getting, you know, both a problem and problematic receiver.
There's no question he is a big play guy. But
you know, I severely doubt that his on the field
temperament is going to change. You know, they're going to
deal with a guy who's you know, is he all
of a sudden be going to become a mister discipline?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't mean to pick on the guy. I only
know what they saw and what we saw for three
years with the Steelers, so there's no question about his
talent level. But you know, sometimes it's it's about more
than just talent level in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
This move impact Aaron Rodgers' decision.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know, I don't think so. They don't think so.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know, from their end, it doesn't have any impact
at all on whether he signs with the team. I
will say this, Dan, And of course this was certainly
no motivation for making the deal. But Aaron Rodgers didn't
get to where he is as a future Hall of
Famer by being an undisciplined fly by the CD of
Pans quarterback, which is kind of the description you can
(03:58):
apply to George pick You know, I think Aaron Rodgers
is a very detailed quarterback, and I don't think he
is on the field relationship with George Pickens, who is anything,
but that would mesh very well, So, you know it.
I don't want to say it might be a blessing
(04:19):
and enticement for Aaron Rodgers to come. I don't think
that at all, But I don't know that it would
have been a good mix here anyhow.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Any news on the Aaron Rodgers front.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I wish I could tell you some, Dan, I mean
I check all the time, and you know they you know,
as I've told you before, he told them up front
he's going to take his time. They are willing to
do that. They are still willing to do that. You know,
Mini camp is in uh excuse me, ot as the
rookies are in this weekend and OTA's start two weeks
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after that.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
There's still time.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And then of course, you know, you get into the
mini camp, which is a I gauge everything about the
US Open coming to Oakmont of the twelve through to fifteenth,
which is where Mini camp is. So you know there's
still time.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
For him to come.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Is there a plan B.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, you touched on it, Mason Rodgers. But I think
even if that is the case, Dan, they will go
out and sign some other veteran quarterback. I really don't
think they are going to rely on a sixth round pick,
even though I like Will Howard in that spot. I
don't think they're really going to rely on a rookie
being a backup. Their history has always been to have
two quarterbacks with NFL starting experience on their roster, and
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even though some of those have been picked over, that's
one of the downsides of this Aaron Rodgers delay. I
still believe they will try to sign some veteran quarterback
to come in and be the number two behind Mason
Rudolph if Aaron Rodgers falls through. But they firmly believe
Dan that he is coming.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But if you look at where they are talent level,
you know, are they the third best team in their division?
Would you put obviously Baltimore? Would you put Cincinnati above them?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, Dan, last year, after acquiring Russell Wilson and
Patrick Queen and Deshaun Elliott and the moves they made,
they were nine win team. The year before, I automatically
thought they were a better team based on their offseason.
I thought they were a ten win team. I don't
right now think they are a better team than last year.
So I don't know if that means it's ten wins,
(06:22):
eleven wins, nine wins, or eight wins. I don't think
they're an eight win team, you know, Mike Tomlins, history
has shown that they are just not that a sub
five hundred team. But you know, the Bengals, as long
as they have that quarterback and their receivers, their defense
is very suspect. You know, you know they finished Steelers
finished second last year. I don't think they're the best
(06:45):
in the division by any stretch, So it might be
a coin flip how it goes with the Bengals, depending
on Joe Burrow's health. If he stays healthy, they're gonna
be tough.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We saw that at the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Steelers gonna pony up for TJ.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Watt.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, I think so, Dan, You know, you go back
in their history, I can't think of one player, one
of their star players, basically in their prime, that they
have ever let walk. I can't think of one. I
go back to Franco Harris, which was toward the end
of his career, and Dan Rooney admitted quietly admitted after
that it was the biggest professional mistake he ever made.
(07:20):
He should have just signed Franco for everything he meant
to the franchise.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Watt doesn't want to leave, and they don't want him
to leave, so I expect that to happen.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
I'll leave you with this.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
With Pittsburgh, Mike Tomlin's not afraid to bring in guys
who are suspect the headaches. You know, if you look
at Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, Chase Claypool, you got. I mean,
they've gone through a lot of wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
It feels like.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They can't and then they don't draft one when they
need to draft one. Do they get enough criticis do
the Steelers get criticized locally for the kind of the
randomness of some of these players that they bring in.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I don't think there's any question they get criticized locally
for it. Dan, I mean, and that is one of
you know, to me, I don't want to see her
and call it a Mike Tomlin faulk. But Mike Tomlin
believes that he can, you know, work through these guys
and and kind of, you know, get them onto the
Steeler way, and you roll the dice with some of
(08:24):
those guys, and you know, you look back, you know
even you know, you look at Juju Smith Schuster when
he came in, and he's not nearly the problem that
some of the other guys were. But you mentioned Chase Claypole,
Antonio Brown, and they're still sensitive to everything that happened
with Antonio Brown. And that's why they knew they weren't
going to give George Pickens a second contract because if
he was acting this way without the big money, what
(08:47):
do you think he was going to do once he
got the big money. So yeah, I think it's uh.
I think that people here are very much aware of it,
and I think you pointing it up shows that maybe
nationally some people becoming a little bit more aware of
it as well.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't know why I always go back to this
play when Antonio Brown got concussed by Vontez Burfek, it
felt like his personality changed. Now you being around the
team on a daily basis, but he went from being
this great story. He was on the path to be
a Hall of Famer. And I don't know if you
can pinpoint that concussion that changed Antonio Brown.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You know, then that kind of theory has been advanced.
I have been told, you know, medically, that that wasn't
the case. The Steelers believe that the money changed Antonio Brown.
But whatever it was, that sense of entitlement reached a point.
You know, they traded him for a fifth round pick,
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so people think like they're getting short changed for a
third round pick for George Pickens.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They are not.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I think they're a little spoiled by the fact that
they got a second round pick from for Chase Claypool
from the desperate.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Chicago Go Bear.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
But you know, I don't know if you know this
from not Dan. For five years I did a weekly
radio show with Antonio Brown.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
And I did.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I liked the kid, I did.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But you saw him later the last couple of years
change and his insubordination that last year with the Steelers,
from from his teammates to his coaches, to the general
manager to the team owner was unlike anything I've ever
seen happen in the Steeler family, and so that's why
they had.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
To move on from him.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Great stuff. We'll be in touch this summer. Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
All right, Dan, you got it man, all right?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Government the Steelers for decades. Jerry Doula for the Pittsburgh
Post Gazette, Steelers Radio Network. You know, George Pickens was
off some draft boards when he was coming out of Georgia.
He was off draft boards, and he was considered a
obviously a high end talent, but you know it was
buyer beware and Mike Tomlin must think, hey all change them.
(11:01):
But even Tomlin not changing these guys, as you know,
discipline as he is, as tough as he is demanding
as he is, they draft some guys and you go,
what are you thinking? This isn't the Pittsburgh Steeler way.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Yes, you know the only thing that I thought about
with the George Pickens trade, it seems like a negative
towards Aaron Rodgers. However, it does seem like Aaron Rodgers
when he comes in, he's like, and these are the
four guys I'm bringing with me.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
There is maybe the possibility that.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
The Steelers are clearing space for him so that then
he can get you know, all of his Jordy Nelson's.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
I mean, I knew it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I was just thinking, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, let's bring
him in les.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
We need.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And then boy Dollar. And yes, when you.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Look at the Cowboys, they're accustomed to bringing in guys
with baggage, so you think they're prepared to deal with it.
But it also seems the opposite, like going to Dallas
if you have issues already, would seem to exacerbate it,
not control it well.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And all of these guys one third touches, you know,
Ceedee Lamb is your guy. Ferguson's a good tight end now,
and Picking's gonna go, how can I get this next contract?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It's just that that's a Molotov cocktail where you just go, hey,
come on in.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yeah, it feels like in that position though, you need
two guys to have one guy. You need, you need
somebody to help Ceedee Lamb get open. So now you
got now you got two.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah, I don't know, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Seed.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
He better get his touches though, That's all I'm saying, right,
yeah he will. That's the guy right there.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Man.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I love that if he does, and his mom's gonna
get mad at Dak Prescott. First thing we got to
do is get him off the Cowboys and then his career.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Is send him to the commanders. Josh in Pennsylvania, Hi, Josh,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
As Ceedee Lamb is your guy? Ferguson's a good time, Josh?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Hi from Las Vegas?
Speaker 9 (13:25):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Oh so wait I got Dawn?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (13:28):
Well, okay, where's Josh?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm here?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Okay dp uh five ten fifty kids. I'm just saying
I put money on the Giants making the playoffs over
the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Oh okay, uh with.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Their defense and sophomore wide receiver and our veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Does anybody want a piece of Josh that the the
Giants will make the playoffs?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Paul, make the playoffs, make the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (14:06):
Yeah, take that, take just send over the money.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Now, all right?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How about a pie to the face, Josh, A pie
to the face. I'll take it, all right, fair enough?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
All right?
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Is that the New York Giants just double checking?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Rick?
Speaker 7 (14:19):
And Oh wait, I have to just quickly so that
bet was that the Giants will make the play.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
He says they will. The bet that I had.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
With Paul and Jay earlier was that the Cowboys won't
make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
You guys are taking the Cowboys won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
So Paul, you're taking that the Giants are in the
playoffs and the Cowboys are out of the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
He's got the Giants not in the playoffs, okay, and
then the Cowboys aren't gonna be in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
But Shay didn't take that bet. Okay, got it. I'm
just trying to keep the bets straight here. Thank you
Rick in Ohio? Hi, Rick, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (14:51):
Hey Dan? Thanks for taking the call. Take a look
at the Pittsburgh receivers. What do you think about Amari
Cooper who had three pretty good years in Cleveland without
a quarterback last year. Not a real good performer with Buffalo.
But none of the receivers really stood out. But give
me a great possessive receiver I think for the wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Yeah, I don't is he available?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know what he's going to call us, I
don't know his age, I don't you know, haven't studied
the depth chart here with some of these receivers who
are going to be available. I like Amari Cooper, but
you know, didn't seem to do much in Buffalo. Now
is fourteen, so you know, there's an expiration date for
all of these guys. Depending on what position you play,
(15:36):
you got about five to seven years and that's about it.
When if you're a running back or wide receiver, you
know less than that. Maybe for a running back.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yeah, Marvin Amari Cooper, Halla, very good. Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Hall of good, Yeah, Halla good, pretty good, he got
paid pretty good?
Speaker 6 (15:54):
Oh, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah did okay, one of the great shooters of all
time will join us. Coming up next, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 2 (17:14):
This stat about the Indiana Pacers is just unbelievable. Since
nineteen ninety eight, playoff teams are three and one thousand,
six hundred and forty when trailing by seven points or
more in the final minute of the fourth quarter or
overtime in the playoffs. The Pacers own two of those
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three wins in both this postseason. Somehow, some way came
back to win that game last night, but they needed
a little bit of help from the Cleveland Cavaliers to
do so. And also Golden State probably without Steph Curry
going into Game two after stealing Game one last night.
A couple of game twos tonight, and you got the
Celtics and the Knicks, and then you have the Nuggets
(17:56):
and the thunder Ray Allen Hall of Famer and two
time NBA champ joining us on the program. You put
up all those numbers in Seattle. You spent five years
in Seattle, correct, yep? Okay, are those numbers now attached
to the Oklahoma City Thunder since the SuperSonics went to Oka.
See like, could your jersey number be retired by OKAC
(18:20):
based off what you did in Seattle?
Speaker 13 (18:23):
Technically I think it could be, but I think for
tradition speaking, you know, typically you raise a banner or
jersey in a place that is kind of familiar to
that city. And nobody in Oklahoma City really had ever
watched me play in that city, so I don't think.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And it's ownership mandate as well, so I don't think
that would ever happen.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Is there a building where your jersey is up in
the rafters in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (18:58):
In Key Arena, Okay, I would say possibly, but it's
kid and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't even know they use it for anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Okay, here's a couple of things I'm want to talk
to you about. The Celtics keep shooting threes the other night? Yeah, now,
you had a game. I think you went over thirteen
from three point range. But as a great shooter, you're
told to keep shooting. But at what point do you
stop shooting threes? If you're the Celtics the other night?
Or do you stop shooting threes?
Speaker 13 (19:30):
Well, the other night, I think the Celtics shot sixty
threes and they were shooting them at points when the
Knicks kept kind of plugging them away, and they're plugging
away and they're playing, they're playing tougher, they're getting tougher buckets.
The next word, obviously Brussel's getting so many mid range shots,
(19:52):
so he had a great offensive rhythm. I don't think
the Celtics ever built their rhythm offensively. Now they take
a lot of threes early, and they take them throughout
the game and when they're going because you got multiple
guys that shoot threes and shoot them well. But if
you never build a rhythm, you know, get into the basket,
getting to the free throw line, to the mid range game.
That's kind of where there was a hole in that
(20:13):
game for the Celtics other night. So to answer your question,
they got to figure out getting some easy buckets, you know,
just kind of establishing rhythm as opposed to just kind
of let the fly consistently. Because it's the playoffs, it
changes a lot because now those shots become smaller opportunities
and they're shooting quicker, and it's important for them to
(20:36):
try to figure out a way to get some rhythm
stuff start in the game.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Early.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I just thought, you know, go inside, get fouled,
go to the free throw line, get like, let's break
up all this and just get something there. That's what
was surprising. But the analytics say, I think to keep
shooting the threes, don't they.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
Well, obviously, because threes are more than two's, and that's
what everybody says. You keep shooting them, and they've been
highly successful at it. So it's hard to stop what
you've been doing and what's made you successful this whole year.
But you have to take into account that the game
does slow down a little bit more in the playoffs,
and you're putting so much pressure on Tatum. He makes
(21:18):
a lot of tough threes. Jalen went to the basket
and got a layup at one point during that fourth quarter,
and I was like, okay, that steady the offense a
little bit. And you see them and you want them
to drive because you look at the Knicks defense. You
know there's a lot of holes in their defense if
you just drive. There's a couple of times where even
Derek White had the ball in the paint and the
(21:39):
basket was behind him. And he's looking out towards the
Berman as supposed to just turn around to get something easy,
and it is hopefully. You know, they'll look at the
film and you know, I'm sure Missoula will say, these
are just shots that we missed. You know, we're all
capable of making they shots, but to make it easier
on yourself, you know, it's hard in a playoff situation
because you know you could make those shots. So I
(22:01):
just think to start the game tonight, they had to
make sure that they get to the free throw line
early and establish something in the paint from the standpoint
of driving and getting some easy stuff. Because as a shooter,
I'll tell you I did not want to start a
game shooting at three because if you miss, then you
start pressing, and then you start pressing. I didn't want
(22:23):
to have to feel like I was pressing. In Boston,
we had so many good players that score, so I
want to make sure I got to the basket early
if I could.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Talking to Ray Allen, former three point Shooting Contest winner
back in two thousand and one, do you practice missing
free throws? We saw that with Tyrese Haliburton, because you
know he's got to miss the free throw, but you
got to miss it correctly to get a chance. Do
you practice missing free throws?
Speaker 13 (22:50):
Well, I mean it sounds funny, but you know how
to miss and it's just kind of being off and
obviously you're looking to who your best rebounder is on
what side. So yeah, there is some precision to being
able to miss a free throw. I can't say that
I practiced it, but I definitely know how to aim
(23:10):
up there and get it to bounce on one side
or the other.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, you did practice making them, though, you did a
really good job at that.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I did.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I did.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I was pretty good at it.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Yeah, but I never understood that.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Explain to me what happens when guys go to the
free throw line and all of a sudden they they
free You know, they're it's not fluid. They like everything slows,
you know, it stops. Maybe that's what it is. Guys
you used to moving, all of a sudden, it stops.
But the mind games that go on with these guys
who can't shoot free throws.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
Well, it's simpler when you think about golf. When you
stand to the t box and they call your name
and they say where you're from. Exactolyades, and all of
a sudden, they everybody's quiet. I was like, keep making noise.
Uncomfortable in noise, you know, don't be quiet. I think
what people And I say this a lot with free
throw People don't understand how emotional a free throw is.
(24:03):
You know, when you think about a guy going to
the free throw line, and emotions don't always mean anger,
but your your adrenaline is pumping. You just got knocked
on your butt. You know you're either down to or
you're up to. You just dunked on somebody. All these
emotions are inside of you, and for most players, imagine
(24:24):
a situation in practice where you practice those emotions. It's
hard to practice feeling competitive, to practice feeling angry, to
practice feeling anxious, practice feeling desperate. How do you do
that in the gym by yourself? And so you have
to figure out a way when you practice to take
that quiet gym and make yourself tired, make yourself mad,
(24:48):
make yourself excited, because that feeling you have to get.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Used to in a game.
Speaker 13 (24:53):
And a lot of times, then when they get into
a game situation, it's a foreign situation for them when
they go to that free throw line, because think about
you take somebody life like Pritchard. You know, Gray Shooter
had a great year, but how often is he at
the free throw line in the fourth quarter if it's
not Tatum or Brown? So now he goes to the
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free throw line because it gets out is Sometimes it's
a foreign circumstance or situation for a lot of players,
and that's why you do get nervous because it's like,
I'm not used to this, and I gotta get used
to go.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I gotta be better at figuring out the situation.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
One thing that drives me crazy, and I'm sure I
drive my audience crazy because I bring it up all
the time. I never want the best player to beat me. Never,
I'm always going to send another guy. I got to
get the ball out of your hands. I want somebody
who's not used to taking that shot. And if that
guy beats me, I live with that. It's like, you know,
when Jordan beats Brian Russell, they don't send another guy,
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and like, I got to get the ball out of
his hands, right, Like I don't help me understand that
if Jalen Brunson has the ball, I'm I'm gonna double.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I'm gonna get the.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Ball out of his hands. I have to do that.
But why don't more coaches do that?
Speaker 13 (26:07):
Well, I think it's a doubleted sword because when you
want you don't want the best player to beat you.
There's some scenarios, some playoff situations you kind of walk
into and you say, he's gonna get his forty.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But we can't let these other guys get off, you know.
Speaker 13 (26:25):
So it is each situation from from series the series,
you know, what do you deal with? Like if you
look at Indiana, you got Nessmith that had twenty three,
and Turner had twenty three and nim Hard had thirteen.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I mean, this is the last shot though, This is
the last shot. That's all I'm talking about. Even Halliburton
has the ball, that's the guy I know who wants
the ball. I have to send another guy his way.
I'm not gonna let him beat me. And they gave him.
You know, he created space. It was a tough shot though,
but he I know, but he's only he's got single
(26:59):
coverage on it.
Speaker 13 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean it's always we can be perfect defensively
as a as a scheme, you know, going to the game,
but we always say good offense, better defense or good
defense better offense.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
We're playing a scheme a certain way and then a
guy makes a tough shot over the top of us.
We have to shake their head because this league is
fulled filled with great offensive players, so they can, like
I said, it can go either way. You know, we'll
run to at a guy because he got hot. Saif
a guy has forty plus, you know, I don't know.
(27:35):
Halliburton only had nineteen points last night, so it wasn't
like he was cooking.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
But he's a closer.
Speaker 13 (27:41):
Yeah, But you just kind of you live with those
odds because if you look at defenses and you look
at all these playoff games, the one thing that you
find fascinating is there's there's no paint presence.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Last night, I don't know who, I don't remember. It
was Draymond Green.
Speaker 13 (27:59):
He came straight down on the lane and dunked it
and there was no awareness from Minnesota whatsoever. And that's
the one thing in playoff basketball that you kind of
you know, you fortify your defense with a paint presence,
and you work from inside out, and you see that
consistently because you know, so many teams are shooting threes
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and then you look at the ball, the way the
ball bounced, you know, against against what the Golden State,
and you see how many rebounds they got in Minnesota's
the bigger team, you know, you think about how many
rebounds they didn't get. Go Bear had eleven and I
think Anthony had fourteen or somewhere around there. But those
balls are bounds a so long, so it's spreading the
(28:40):
defense out. And then you're trying to figure out what
we try to do. On most teams I played on,
we tried to keep our big guy in the paint.
You know, we rotated with playing man to man, So
if it was myself and KG, I tried to stay
up top and you stayed low. So if somebody did drive,
they had to see him. And right now you just
don't see that that fortification of the paint, and there's
(29:01):
so many holes right now in their defense. So that's
ultimately a system where it's built around team shooting threes.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
What's your favorite pair of shoes behind you?
Speaker 13 (29:11):
My favorite pair, I would have to go up. I'd
have to go up one, two, three, four. If I
can show.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You, oh my goodness, you got a whole wall, this
one right here, okay, number four.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
So those are how many of those are Air Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
They're one through thirty, one through thirty.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
You might sign any shoes that you have. No, you
wouldn't ask him.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
I haven't, Like I have a jersey just hang on
my wall, and I played golf with them regularly. I
wouldn't ask them. But I think at some point I
should here in the future, just for keep, say, just
have momentum. And I know he would if I asked them,
but but I thought about it, but I haven't done
it yet.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, but if you have them in the back of
the golf cart and then you know Mike probably sees them,
and then you go, oh god, yeah, sorry, I thought
I was going to leave these in the car.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
And then you have a sharpie attached to it. Then
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
See that I'm a vet right here.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
DP.
Speaker 13 (30:28):
That's like the rookie move to do that. If somebody
did that to me, I'd be looking. I'm like, really
really do oh you really left it with the sharpie
on the on taped up to it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Okay, what if you send somebody that you guys, guys
used to do this where you'd send the clubhouse guy
over to get something signed by somebody in the other
locker room.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Right, okay, did that?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Did it?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'll tell you a story. One time when I was
playing in Milwaukee.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
I was always early and the bus wasn't there yet,
so I took it ab over and I'm sitting in
the locker room. So our equipment manager didn't get our
gear out yet. So I'm sitting in the locker room
and I'm antsy trying to get on the court. And
you know, the United senter was always freezing, so you
wanted to come like bundled. So I'm sitting there and
the equipment guy from the Bulls comes to the locker room.
(31:18):
He goes, you guys didn't get here yet. I said, no,
they're not here. I'm just waiting on him. He goes,
Mike's on the other side. You know, he has some stuff.
Maybe you want to ask him. And I was like really,
and he's like, yeah, but you got to ask him.
You got to go in there and ask him. And
you know, this was I'm probably like three years in
the league, and I'm like, ask go over there and ask.
I was like, can you ask for me? He goes, no,
you got to ask me, And so I went in
(31:39):
there and I was like, Mike, you think I could
borrow a pair of shoes? And I'm already wearing the
shoes anyway, I'm under contract. And He's like, sure, kid,
you know. And in the in the hall, I walked
in the cabinet full of Jordan's just like all the
way down there, all the swool.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
That was cool.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Where are those shoes?
Speaker 13 (31:59):
I don't know, there's somewhere float And I got so
many shoes like tucked everywhere.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
We brought this up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
The Hall of very Good, like the guys that you
played against or with, like Jamal Crawford in the Hall
of very Good. Not a Hall of Famer, but you
know a hall of very good. Who would you put
in there? Maybe you played against, you know, contemporaries where
you go. That guy should be in the Hall of
very Good. Not a Hall of Famer, but hall of
very good.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Did I played with?
Speaker 13 (32:27):
I would definitely say two players that just you know,
one in particular that would kill the game today is
then Baker.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Okay, he just he was around the basket.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
I didn't think anybody could stop him, and he still
could shoot, you know, in the primer, he would be
really good in today's game. And and obviously, you know,
these are two guys that I played with my rookie
year in Glenn Robinson and you know, arguably one of
the greatest college players of all time. And I think
they don't get their their their it, but there were
(33:01):
incredible scores and and when I watched then nobody could
stop them.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You know.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
So they were good and they just ended up not
being on teams once they left milwaukkeeoplehere they had any
any symbols of success. But I thought they're incredible. And
so you look at the game today, we don't have those.
You know, you talk about those mid range players, those
pick great pick and role players. Think about Terrell Brandon.
(33:28):
He was dubbed best point guard in the world. Sports
illustrated like this. He was he was split a pick
and roll. His mid range game, he was automatic and
I learned a lot from him. You know, just playing
with those three guys helped my game tremendously. Uh And
we don't have that that skill level right now in
the NBA because of the overuse of the three ball.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, I still keep I can't get it out of
my mind that you're wearing Michael Jordan's shoes playing against
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
Well, just remember my second game in the NBA. My
first game was Minnesota Timberwolves a preseason and the second
one and I seen the schedule. So I was still
in my college apartment when I got the schedule in
October fifteenth, nineteen ninety three, Chicago Bulls United Center, and
(34:19):
I'm sitting there. I still got poster him on my
wall right here in my room, and I'm like, I'm
about to play against Michael Jordan, So I'm wearing his
shoes on October fifteen. I'm stretching and then I hear
the whole introduction, and you know, I'm used to being
on the other side looking at the TV watching all
this stuff happen, and now I'm like, wow, this is
(34:41):
so crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I'm inside the TV right now, you know.
Speaker 13 (34:44):
And then I'm sitting here on the ground stretching and
I'm doing this and I'm just kind of and I
see the Bulls run out and he's the last one,
and I couldn't believe it, you know, just as much
as I watched him and kind of like studied his
game and he he was kind of he was such
a big role model. Then being on the same floor
with him, it was just unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Did he talk trash toad?
Speaker 13 (35:08):
No, But at jump Bald he walks over to me
and he said, welcome to the NBA.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Ray, Like, you just don't.
Speaker 13 (35:18):
Understand like this man he's you know, to be great,
you also have to be intelligent. You know, you can't
walk around and be oblivious.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
To the things around you.
Speaker 13 (35:28):
So he knows everybody who's playing against you, study your opponents,
you watch the draft. You know who's young and come
into the league. And so as us young players, we're
so naive to that idea. You start to realize how
much you have to immerse yourself in this game and
you have to know every player in the league. You
can't just think that, oh, I'm the best player, I
don't care about anybody. You really have to study this
(35:49):
game and who's in it. What's on your shirt Jesus
shooting a jumper doing.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
The jump shot.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's not Jesus shuttles Worth, that's Jesus the playwork.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
I don't know about Jesus form though.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Ray, Yeah, this one a we got. We'll work with him.
We'll give him a pass. We definitely will give him
a pass.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Thank you, Ray, good to talk to you again. That's
Ray Dylan Hall of Famer. We'll take a break back
after this.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
E me Earlier in the show last hour, we were
talking about the Kentucky Derby winner Sommerty is not going
to run in the Preakness, We'll run in the Belmont.
And I thought that NBC carried all three and I
was told that Fox has the Belmont. Because I thought,
if I'm NBC, I'm going to flex my TV muscles
and dollars and say, we have to ensure that if
(36:54):
we have somebody winning the Derby and we really think
that they're legitimate triple Crown threat, but it's best for
the sport if the horse is running. But Sovereignty is
not going to run in the Preakness, but his scheduled
to run in the Belmont. Also, I saw this story
and we've seen this before with different obituaries. There's a
(37:17):
guy in Illinois who passed away in April In his obituary,
his family wrote that he passed away after a short
illness on Wednesday evening, April twenty third, at his home
surrounded by family, but then added he couldn't face another
White Sox season after last year's record breaking meltdown. He
(37:39):
also went on to say that he hates the Cubs
in his obituary.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
One last shot on the way.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, my favorite though this happened in twenty seventeen, and
you had a fan of the Washington Nationals. In his obituary,
he wrote or his family wrote, in lieu of flowers,
send donations to the National's Bullpened Fund.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
They were blowing a lot of games back then, twenty seventeen. Okay, uh,
we have a quick hockey game coming up.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Okay, what's the rules here for the quick hockey game?
Speaker 8 (38:19):
The iteam has just learned the name of the Utah
Hockey Club just announced the permanent name going from so
not the YETI so the finalists were the Utah Blizzard.
They could keep Utah Hockey Club, Mammoth, Outlaws, Venom, and Yetti.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
But I didn't think YETI was going to let them
the company YETI was going to let them use that
name correct.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
YETI and Yeti's could not be used because of conflict
of interest copyright infringement.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Okay, you think that, YETI would partner with them. I
would think I'm going to go.
Speaker 8 (38:56):
I'll run by again. Blizzard Hockey Club, Mammoth Outlaws, Venom.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I like hockey Club, but I'm gonna go Mammoth. Marvin,
I'm gonna go Outlaws, Okay, Seaton.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Jeepers, creepers. I love Utah Hockey Club, but they're not
gonna do that was a venom and option?
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Did I hear that?
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I'll go Venom. How about you, Todd?
Speaker 7 (39:24):
I like Mammoth too for that?
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Okay, Todd, just give your answer. Yes, God, get to
the point. Say your answer.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
It's the Utah Mammoth.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, cuss up up. Okay, that is up.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Up.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Don't ask Todd to do that. Yes, Todd, but the
name is not official YETI they may still change it
at some point.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
From the fans about it. A blizzard of calf have
come into the will.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
They have a couple of guys in the Mammoth outfit current. Yes, yeah,
that's a two man job though, right, Nah, I think
you got one, you.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Know, you know what they did though, Now they got
where is it mammoth or are they the mammoths?
Speaker 6 (40:09):
You know, like the heat or they the heats?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
They made it one of those weird singular plural things.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
You know, we're collectively the mammoth. That's a good point
by you, Yes.
Speaker 8 (40:19):
Paul, mammoth plural is mammoth?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Great?
Speaker 8 (40:23):
You could drop the s forever so there's no mammoths no, like, yeah,
just mammoth.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
Yes, yes, something corny they're gonna say, don't tusk with us?
Speaker 12 (40:39):
Yes, Todd, you could have a mammoth win, but you
can also have a mammoth defeat.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
You can can't sleep, okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Maybe they could have the song by Fleetwood mac Tusk
as their theme song.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Maybe their rivals when they beat them all say, you
guys are extinct, so.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
You've got their extinct.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I got Yeah, you got to hold your nose, you
guys extinct?
Speaker 9 (41:09):
You got there.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
You guys aren't even a relevant species right now? Yes?
Whose voice is that? Yes, Todd?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Can they have a private one where they offer mammoth
grams if you're having health insurance issues?
Speaker 12 (41:20):
And then maybe there's some kind of.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Marketing really Mammoth Graham.
Speaker 12 (41:25):
But the proper adoptors they just have, you know in
section twelve, is going.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
To check it out.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, doctor Todd's the fact that it's coming from You
will have.
Speaker 12 (41:32):
To be the actual physician that can do that.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
P K suban former hockey player now an analyst for
the Mothership. Will John is coming up. Nobody talks hockey
like we do. Final Hour in this Wednesday after this
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