May 21, 2024 • 41 mins
Dan wonders how many other teams in the history of sports had higher expectations than this season’s Celtics team. And he talks to NBA legend Jamal Crawford about the NBA Playoffs and what makes a great basketball player.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan
It's Dan Patrick Show. Heat a discussion first hour. It's
the topic that everybody is talking about, and we gave
you our opinions. We didn't mince words. Should Chet Holmgren
have been on the All Rookie Team? He didn't play
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his rookie year, but he's on first team All Rookie.
So we did a deep dive. We wanted to find
out how you qualify for a rookie If you're a
baseball player, when are you not a rookie? The NFL
we have their policy as well, All Rookie Team. Well
pretty much, if you've been on a practice squad, played
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in the Canadian Football League, you've had any other pro
football league, or any kind of experience preseason training camp,
you are not eligible for All Rookie awards. Now, Warren
Moon created in the CFL one titles there came down.
He wasn't a rookie when he got to the NFL,
but in the NBA he would be a rookie. Eachier
(01:09):
Row was I think twenty six when he came over
to Seattle. He had been MVP over there in the
Japanese league, he won Rookie of the Year and he
won MVP as well.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, Paulie Joelle Embiid missed his first two seasons of
NBA and he was completely eligible for Rookie of the
Year his third year in the league and he finished
third twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Jamal Crawford's going to join us, a former NBA player.
We'll get his thoughts on that also, Kenny, he remember
a team under more pressure than the Celtics this year
to win a title really in any sport. If anybody
has any other suggestions. We brought up a few of those.
The Braves in the mid nineties finally got one. I
brought up the Dodgers a couple of years ago, with
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all that money that was spent, all those all stars,
Clayton Kershaw, Dave Roberts, that they had to have won.
There's been a few recent history, but here are the Celtics.
They've been here before. We expect them to win the title.
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Our radio affiliates around the country. Seaton pull question for
hour two, Let's clean up our one, let's clean up
our one. Is chet Hoolmgren a rookie? Right now?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Sixty percent of the audience say no, we also had
up there. Who will get back to us first, the
NBA or Panini on our two ridiculous questions?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Right now, fifty nine percent of the audience have Panini
and they were correct. Panini has gotten back to us
and said chet Holmgren's rookie cards were from last year.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Officially.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, I don't have word as of yet if
they're doing some type of like all rookie team card
for this year, or if they're they do those things,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, Todd, did you hear back from the Yeah, Panini
gets it. That's why. Yeah, I knew that.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I know they do this Rising Stars game or series
of games at All Star Weekend, But a couple of
years ago at NBA All Star Weekend it was rookies
versus sophomores. If they did rookies versus sophomores, Chet Holmgren
would have been on which team rookie that would have
been wild. But he didn't play, I know, but he was,
you know, paid on the team in the facility. I'm
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just curious that he would have played with the rookies
if he were offered.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
To imagine Derek Lively of the MAVs, who would have
been first team All Rookie. He's second team All Rookie. Yes, Marv. Sorry.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Going back to teams with the most pressure. What about
the Sixers with Doctor J. Was there a lot of
pressure on them back then to win a title?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I don't remember. I know that well, there was pressure
on them when they had Doctor J and George McGinnis
and world be Free Darryl Dawkins, I think at the time.
But I but I don't like they hadn't been there
like Boston. Boston, this has been a half a decade
where their Eastern Conference finals are playing for a title
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NBA Finals, and I think just waiting for something to happen,
and it never It hasn't happened yet. But I mean,
these players are so young. You know, they're in the
league at twenty one, they're playing five years now, they're
on their second contract, and the expectation level we would
normally never have this expectation level, but everything we have
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just you know, fast forward that Okay, you've been in
the league for two years, when you're gonna win an MVP. Hey,
when are you going to win a title? It didn't
used to be that way. That you got usually I
don't know, four to five years, and then there were
expectations now as soon as you come in, like are
you able to do this? You know, I go back
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with Elway when Elway lost all those Super Bowls, and
then they were going back again with Chrell Davis. But
I don't know if anybody said, oh, they got to win,
or because they were the Broncos and they'd always lost,
like the Buffalo Bills, they went nobody's gonna go four
consecutive years and lose four consecutive Super Bowls. And I
think every time each year when they went back, it
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was like, how are they going to lose this year?
It wasn't Boy, they better win. The window of opportunity
is closing, yes, Mark.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I think the difference between them and the Celtics is
the Celtics were really good, really young. So in twenty
eighteen they get the game seven of the Conference finals.
So you're thinking to yourself, all right, they're gonna get
They're gonna get to the mountain top real soon. And
now it's year seven, and you're kind of thinking, you know,
players age like dogs. So they're twenty five and twenty six,
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but they were in year seven eight. Yeah, so I
can't treat them like they're twenty two to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But they're they're so young. They're acting like they're young
when they get to this big moment. But we don't
allow that anymore. Your second year in the league and hey,
you better make the playoffs. It just feels like we
have jump started sooner with the expectation levels, and you
don't realize how much older, how much longer certain players
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had been in the league before they won a big
playoff series or got to play for a title. I
mean Magic coming out of Michigan State and then all
of a sudden, he's winning a championship. I mean those
things don't happen. You go from winning the title first
year and then all of a sudden you close out
Philadelphia with one of the great closeout games of all time.
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And how old was Magic at the time, twenty I
mean that's unheard of.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, Paul, these are a little different, but in the
same topic of a team that had a ton of
pressure to win, almost as a relief the seventy three
win Warriors team fifteen to sixteen. They didn't win the finals. Yeah,
and that really killed the historical punch of that season,
beating the Bulls at seventy three. Can you imagine if
they won that year, the permanent discussion of the greatest
single season NBA history. They had to be involved, but
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they're not really involved anymore because they didn't close it.
It's like the Patriots when they had the perfect season, Yeah,
and it got spoiled by the Giants. It's still a
really cool season, but it's not historically, but it wasn't
a build up to that, No, just a single season pressure.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I remember with the Patriots going undefeated and we
just assumed they were going to win. It wasn't.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now, look, I famously and at the time stupidly said
on Letterman the Giants were going to beat the Patriots.
But I truly believed that they were going to beat
the Patriots. I wasn't trolling anybody, but everybody thought they
were going to win. And I remember when I said it.
I was done with the show and I'm driving back
home and I go, what did I just do? I
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think I even called Paulie. I go, I just said
the Giants are going to beat the Patriots in the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You called me on the way home from the taping. Yeah,
because it hadn't been on the letter tape.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It at five o'clock, and I'm thinking I'm gonna get crushed.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But then you said, I remember you saying, but there's
a lot of Giants fans in the crowd and they
loved it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, but nationally, Oh this hurts. Oh, I just got
an email we all did. That is stupid. You know what?
That is unfair? Hey, you can watch the Sports Emmys tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
From a distance.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I might as well get used to it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Open bar too.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I did like to grow to like that restaurant though,
that we would go to after we lost. Yeah, when
they're in New York City, there's like a restaurant like
two floors down.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, and he ate food off of your plate. Yeah
I did. I was like, whoa pat SJ just.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Like reached in and grabbed like fries off your plate
or something, even asking by.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
A vowel and some asparagus.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
That was tough. That was tough. Yeah, is the NBA
sending the Nixon email?
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Hey, tonight game one.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
How you can watch nick fan Yeah sending a joker
a reminder tomorrow night they Western converage. Check tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Who's under more pressure us winning a Sports Emmy or
the Celtics win the NBA?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Wow? Well we were nominated five consecutive years. That's similar
with the Celtics. Buffalo Bills is really yeah? Yeah, we're
the Buffalo Bills of sports radio. Great fan base, great city,
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and we have a great fan base. Yeah. Man, now
that you put it like that, that hurts even more. Hey,
watch the Sports Emmys tonight. Hey, you're not nominated, but
the thrman Thomas of the Oh, who's gonna who would
forget their helmet? Todd? Would you forget your helmet?
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I'm pretty angle about that stuff. I set up everything
like the night before on the bed.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Your white lays out here exactly.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
It's like these shoes go with this year, read this time.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
How about a couple of phone calls here, Baker and
Bozeman is back. That's the literation that Paulie hates Baker
and Bozeman is back.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
I appreciate that alliteration. Dan, thanks so very much of
taking the call. Sure, I've got I've got another question
for Frishy to throw out, both to the NBA and
to Panadian America if you believe it. So, here's the thing.
Last year, the NBA introduced for the first time ever
a conference in Vegas that happened during the Summer League
NBA con and I attended it with my colleague and
we were making plans to go back again this year.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
It was great.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
They had autographed sessions with Victor one beyondba Que, mat
Bill Jabarn, all these different sessions, and Premium America, by
the way, was one of the vendors there. I met
all the guys there forming in America. Well, just thirty
days ago on May first, the NBA decided not to
do it again in twenty twenty four, and it just
shock me as odd that they wouldn't repeat the conference,
because it's really a showcase for the league, for the
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association technically. I was curious if the NBA would say
why they didn't repeat their conference this year in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Okay, well, let Todd send it, you know what. Let's
see if the NBA responds to our email from an.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Hour, Yeah, they don't need a second one.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Just yeah, we can't don't want to do that. Yeat
Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug.
Speaker 10 (12:18):
Hey Dan.
Speaker 11 (12:18):
I wanted to revisit Seaton's point because he said it correct,
but I'm not sure that you guys understood him correctly.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
It's not that one.
Speaker 11 (12:26):
Hundred and thirty at bats is when you're no longer
a rookie. It's when your rookie season starts.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
And the reason.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
For instance, there's this shortstop with the Orioles Gunner Henderson.
He was called up at the end of August the
team got to expand its roster. He's, you know, he
gets to play in a few games, gets one hundred
and sixteen at bats, which is not doesn't cross the threshold.
He's called back in the spring, makes the team, and
he's now the reigning rookie of the Year. So one
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hundred and thirty is the starter of your rookie year,
not the end of it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, Well, thank you Doug for the clarification. You have
to start the season and then you have a one
hundred and thirty events and then you're officially a rookie
in Major League Baseball. Bill in New Hampshire, Hey, Bill,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Hello?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (13:14):
I just wanted to point out that Lou Panella was
made at his first major league at that in nineteen
sixty four, and he became the rookie of the year
with the expansion Seattle Pilots in nineteen sixty nine. So
he went all those intervening years, settling back and forth
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between the majors and miners. So he was in his
fifty year when.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
He was.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
All right, he's twenty five years of age.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, it is. I didn't know Lou won it when
he was in Seattle. I thought he won it in
Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're right, it was Kansasity. He started in Baltimore in
sixty four, went back to the miners. He played a
touch in Cleveland in sixty eight, then with the Kansas
City Royals in sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
He was rookie of the year.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, Well, David Robinson did two years of military then
joined the NBA with the Rookie of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, I think he's twenty four. Yeah, where was the outrage?
Then there's no sports radio. Barry in Santa Fe Hi Berry,
welcome back, Good.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Morning fellas, Good morning chat Ro. You were talking about
uniforms before The biggest all time blunder fiasco of brand
changing has to be my New York Islanders. They went
from the classic Stanley Cup four in a row blue
and orange two the Gordons fisherman with deel I mean,
(14:41):
I mean Ranger fans still call a fish sticks for
crying out. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thank you Berry. We were talking about Edmonton Advanced last
night and we looked those uniforms. They're great, home and
away awesome. But I think that's because of Gretzky that
that we associate those uniforms with winning a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Those are great uniforms. Yeah, point yeah, I'm looking back
at this. I didn't recall in the seventies and eighties
the Islanders were classic and they always won. In the nineties,
I'm checking the year. It's very similar to like the
Vancouver Grizzlies type uniforms, blue aqua orange with like a
wave and a really mean looking fisherman in the middle,
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like a guy who looks like he's gonna catch him
fish and kick your butt. Not pretty, not even like
retro pretty.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Who's the marketing person who goes, I got a great idea,
we got we got a winning tradition. Let's throw away tradition.
Let's bring in a new Let's bring in teal. Let's
start fresh. Everybody loves Teal. We won four straight Stanley
Cups with this, I know. But now we capitalize and
then we have a new uniform, you know, the big
bad fishermen. Here come the fish sticks. By the way,
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I've said this before, The Island that Islander group is
the best team I ever covered. And covered is probably
not a fair description, but I did stories on the
Islanders with la Fontaine and Flatley. Never interviewed Billy Smith
because he didn't like the media. But they had wonderful
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like they were professional players. They were not an ego
BOSSI was there Trozier in a wonderful team, one of
the great teams of all time. Al Arbor their head coach.
They were professional that if you ask for somebody, you
got somebody, except for Billy Smith. He's like, I'd love
to do a story on Billy Smith. Yeah that's not happening,
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just not I said, yeah, yeah, pull or no, yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
But as professional, at least the way I remember it.
As professionals they were when they started losing late in
the third period of games, they just decided to start
fighting people. There were a number of Islander games I
remember watching where once they knew they weren't going to win,
they just dropped the gloves and started fights.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So why would you do that when I just gave
them a tribut.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Were very professional in a lot of ways, and they
were very successful. How do you know I'm going based
on what you just said, I'm taking your word for it.
But on the ice, once the game they knew they
were going to lose, they started fighting.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So do I have to take your word for it
that all they did is fight when they were losing.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
All they did. I watched the number of games down
three one with four minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let's start being winning. They were winning. Stanley Cupps Todd
maybe later, but not that group, not that Pat Lafontaine
is not going to be fighting anybody. Nice journal start something.
Thank you, Marvin Well, take a break. Jamaal Crawford will
join us coming up. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, tonight, game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. According
to DraftKings, I got the Pacers getting ten Celtics overwhelming
favorites to reach the NBA Finals. It's bringing our good buddy,
Jamal Crawford, Turner's sports analyst, former NBA player, three time
NBA sixth Man of the Year, Jamal we spent a
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lot of time on this cheed Holmgren was named the
All Rookie Team his second year in the league. Where
do you stand on rookies who are in the second
year and they make a rookie team or some have
won Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
It was his first time on the court, so I'm
okay with that. But I think absolutely him being able
to watch the game, get stronger, getting the rhythm of
NBA travel, getting the rhythm of how the NBA works
without actually playings. It's almost like having the answers to
the test because you start seeing things a little bit differently.
And he'll surepare you for that second year, but your
first techning year.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Playing well, he's kind of a red shirt freshman, isn't he.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, in a way, it absolutely is, And that could
be some of the foundation for his career going forward,
just being able to get all that knowledge.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
First, all right, let's turn our attention to tonight's game.
Can you remember a team with this much pressure on
it to win, that they have to win, who that
they have to win?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I would have to go back to like the Heatles
with the heat Yeah, they had a lot of pressure
on them when they got together, you know, So I
think for these guys, it's all or enough and everybody
knows that it's been like that all year.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, how does it not happen? Like they have the talent,
they are young, and it felt like that pressure got
to them before. How do you learn how to win
a championship?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, you learn from your mistakes, and they actually have
been to the championship series. I think for them, and
I've said it all year, there as talented as five
as there is the league. But what can get them
is trust. Are you going to trust the same way
you do when you're up teen, when you're up fifteen,
the balls hopping, everybody's touching it, or you're going to
revert to going one on one and more isolation basketball.
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And I think when they do that, that's when they
allow teams to stay around, and that's when they put
even more pressure on themselves that they don't need to.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, we keep waiting to anoint Jason Tatum is maybe
the face of the league, but I don't know if
he's ever going to be the face of the league.
He's a wonderful player, but I don't even know if
he wants to be the face of the league. What
do you what is the rap on Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Well, he's accomplished a lot at a young age. I
think when he actually wins the championship, because he'll win one.
When he wins one, I think people will look at
his whole career in the totality of the stuff he
has done, and Dan, to be honest with you, after
the Lebron and the Kds and the Stepfs, you know,
continue on. I'm not sure there will be just one
face of the league. I think you'll need a bunch
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of guys. I think you'll need Victor, you'll need the Checks,
You'll need Tatum, you'll need and you need Luca. You
need all these guys to kind of help push the
league forward because seeing the Lebron's, the Steps and those
type of guys, that's gonna be tough to top.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How much did bowing out the way he did against
Ant and the Wolves isn't gonna put a dent in
the Jokers legacy.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I'm not sure he bowed out. I think he brought it.
I've watching him up close for as much as I
did this. This playoff run is fascinating. You really have
to combine for five players to be this guy like
he's damn he's not just playing against the players, He's
playing against the coach. And that's what makes me different.
(22:09):
I'm not always playing get you guys, let me see what.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Do this?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So he is a one of one and he is
special and fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Okay, but what is it about him? Because he's like
a hybrid there of players. It's not like you go, oh,
you know he reminds me of because I don't know
if there's anybody like him.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
No, there's not just one person like him. He has
some of the Kams footwork and he brings out the
Kareem skylook on the same possession all then he'll know,
look you and pass like magic the bird. The thing
that's interesting, really special about him, besides his mind is
he can kind of blend two eras he can play
nineties bullies ball and get in there and make you
look small. Or he can step out here threes, get
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to the dribble, handoffs and make plays on the perimeter
like the players do today, the bigger guys. So he's
the one guy that can kind of win two ears.
Oh and I can score forty whenever I don't whenever
I want, But sometimes I'll score forty when I don't
want to as well, and he can pass and find everybody.
He's a special player.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, one of the best, and he's one of the
selfless players. When you think of great players, Steve Nash
comes to mind. He won a couple MVPs. They had
to tell him to shoot, you know. Jokers had a
couple of seasons where you know, he was like twentieth
in shot attempts, and that's saying a whole lot for
an MVP.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
And the really, really, really special thing about him, out
of all the players I've seen, I studied the game
for a long time. I was just thinking about this.
I stayed it since I was eight years old, so
thirty six years for a superstar. He makes the right play,
probably more consistently, in a higher percentage than most superstars
I've ever seen. Like, if it calls for me to
pass ten straight times, I'll do that with a smile.
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If it calls for me to score five straight times,
I'll do it. He makes the right play almost every
single time down the court, and that's that's almost impossible
to do.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Who's a better passer, Joker or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I would give Joker the advantage only because his height,
he can see different angles. Care I'm a basketball guy, right,
astball guys, I got to say that Holds is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Does Denver need to make big changes to its roster?
Speaker 6 (24:22):
I think they need to solidify their events a little
bit more. I think when they lost uh Brown last
year and they lost Jeff Green, I thought they hurt
them big time, you know, because it took out guys
that can switch. It took out athletic guys, it took
off vet guys. It took out almost another set of
playmakers as well. If you saw when Jamal Murray really
got off in a series, he got off the ball,
he let Gordon or Joker bring the ball up, which
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freed him to kind of play the attack game. And
their team is built for him to be the attacker.
So I think they need a couple more playmakers.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Our dynasty is dead in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I'm not sure they're dead, but I think they'll be
harder to to do. When you when you go back
and think about Jordan winning three, taking me a year
and a half off and come back and win three more,
we will never see that again, and especially the way
player movement is as well, the way contracts are structured guys.
You remember in the eighties, like we knew everybody on
the Celtics knew it was Age Bird and Harris and
(25:16):
mckille and all these guys in nearby the Lakers with
Scott and Magic and Worthy, Arambus and Kareem. So we
don't identify our players like that anymore. Just being with
that team now, we just kind of follow the player.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, I wonder what the salary structure with the salary
camp and moving forward, can you have big threes? And
I don't know if you can, I don't. I mean,
Phoenix has it, but it's not going to work for them. Okay,
See as a lot of young players under contract Minnesota,
you know they're not necessarily a young I mean, Rudy's
(25:49):
been around a while and so is Cat. But so
I don't know what Boston's got those two guys under
contract and Tatum and Brown. I'm just curious if teams
to get that third star or they use the money
to maybe even out the roster. And ye had a
little bit more on the bench.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Well, you heard Kendrick Lamar in the in the rep beef,
he says it's no big three it's just big me.
That was just a big me. It's just I think
you're right. I think it'll be the two star crime model,
and you go around that I actually like that model better,
to be honest with you, I think that, Yeah. I
think that third guy sacrifice was a lot and he
never gets a chance to be him, and I think
the two guys have to figure it out. And I
(26:29):
miss that part of it, like, Okay, it's us two,
it's those two, but our benches and our role players
and our coach and all that stuff. They come into
the game a lot more. And I missed that that
time period.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Why does it seem like people don't like Drake?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
He's been on top for a long time then, like
you know, it's it's it's hard to keep that same
further when you're that's why you're damn Patrick.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Is Drake and Lebron Is there parallels?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I can see that absolutely. I think that might be
the basketball version, that might be the rap version. For sure,
they've been on top for a long time.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Who's better at what they do? Drake or Lebron?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I would say Lebron. I think I think Drake is
one of the greatest artists ever, I think Lebron's one
of the greatest basketball players ever had to hire a
hired tea.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Do you believe Lebron's not involved in the coaching search
for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
I think Lebron, if he says it's now, I'm gonna
takehim for his word. But I would think a player
of that magnitude they kind of know what's going on.
At least in my experiences of playing with top players,
they were in the loop, and when they weren't in
the loop, they were a little upset by that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay, but Lebron does a podcast with JJ Reddick. Yes,
do you think at some point, maybe when they're not
recording that Lebron says something to JJ or JJ says
something to Lebron about coaching the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
There has to be some conversation, right, Yeah, they respect
each other's basketball intellect. They would not have done a
pod together. That could just be normal friends talking like
we're talking coaching right now, right, So, I'm sure they've
had some type of conversation about that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
What advice would you give Bronnie James?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
You know what, I watched him at the Combine and
even before that. You can go back to my tweets.
I love how he plays, I love how you was raised,
his humility, And now I'm in the aest circuit because
I'm coaching my son, so I know what it's like
to be like, you know, the famous kid, and everybody's
kind of watching you and hoping things don't go well
for you. He hands it beautifully and he knows how
to play the game. And what I'm not in the
(28:33):
comparison part of it, but just watching him. He's athletic,
he can shoot it. He makes the right play almost
all the time. So he'll find his way and he'll
definitely be a pro at what round and what pick
I don't know, but he'll be a pro because he
has the right makeup in the right.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Okay, but if I take away the name, if I
take away the name, let's be honest. Yeah, and you
went to the combine, are you noticing Bronnie.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
James Absolutely six to one forty inch bird that's gonna
jump off the page first, and then he shoot twenty
five threes. You make nineteen of them. I'm watching that
as well, and he's making the right play for somebody
to have the name that long and not try to
play up to that pressure. Yeah, I think that's impressive.
Been itself.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What's your what was your vertical?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It wasn't forty, It was thirty two and I needed
another eight, So it may be I made a ball
eight from somebody else. I think it was like thirty four.
Maybe it wasn't forty, Yes for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, but what was it?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
The best leaper you saw where you go? That's that's
not real, Like that's not fair.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
I seen a couple of them, Vince Carter. James flight
White was taken off from the free throw line and
he's assistant coach with the Timbrelves right now in wind Millon.
In high school. Derreck Rose, when I saw him, he
was like a world class track act. He was like,
he's not, he's he has a supercharger in his body.
That's not you're supposed to play. People forget how athletic
(29:54):
and how great he was before any injuries. Derrick Rose
one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
On the White from Florida.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I think he was from d C. He may went to.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Florida playing Florida.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.
James flight White, what about you then, who did you?
And of course m J right like he some guys
know about one foot or two feet he was doing
like who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Was? Oh, I go back. First guy I ever saw
who was different was Elgin Baylor where he just yeah,
his his elevation was was something where he went, Okay,
that's different. I didn't see Russell play, but I saw
just about everybody else athletically. Doc doctor J in traffic
(30:40):
was so great at dunking because he would just get
it go like big hamp boom, throw it down.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Darnell Hillman doctor Uh. I think they called him doctor
Dunk or something a b a big afro Darnell Hillman.
I remember, uh, Connie Hawkins remember bro? Yeah, yeah, I'm
trying to think who else might have been where you
just watch and you go a man. That guy could
hit his head on the rim right now. That that's
(31:11):
old school. Going back.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Kevin Harland asked me something, and I'm going to ask
you if you could only watch a player who could
handle the ball like magic, right, not magic Johnson would
like magical, look beautiful, somebody who had the best jumper ever,
and somebody who could fly through there you can only
watch one game of that person. Who would it be?
Who's your stop?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So, who's my player that has all of those?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
No one player that had the best at that. Who
would you rather watch? The ball handler or the shooter? Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, you and me are shooters, yes, so yeah, yeah,
I would take a shooter, just like I love I
like eravich Is is one of the best ball handlers ever,
and and Kyrie is in there as well. I mean
(32:06):
there's there's a few guys who were unbelievable and by
ball handling, I always say, how are you in traffic?
Because that's really what I want to see? If tight spaces?
Can you get out of the tight space? And Kyrie's yes, great,
great point dunking. I don't know, like I just never
(32:31):
I know, but unless he's jumping over Frederick Weiss, I
mean it's it's just like I I got to see Dominique.
Dominique always tomahawked like he didn't do one handed, and
he did it in traffic. And I saw Doctor J
like that. I got spoiled. So Vince is, you know, incredible.
But I always found the guys that could jump weren't
(32:51):
necessarily the best players because they relied. It's like a
beautiful woman who doesn't develop her personality, like, hey, I'm beautiful,
look at me. Dunk and then can you play? You know,
can you shoot? Can you play deep? You know? All
those things. So I'm not as big on the dunking
part of it.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Okay, I think I chose the the guy in the
type spaces. I thought shooting was cool, dunking was cool,
but the guy that that's where the magic happened. So
I think I chose. If I could watch one game,
I think it would be the Kyrie type player.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Is Kyrie the most talented player who ever played the game?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
The most talented? Yes, not the best talented. I would
say he's one of the most talented and one of
the most skilled. I think Jordan checks both boxes. I
think Jordan's the most talented. I think he's the most skilled.
I think he's the best player. I think he checks
every box for me personally, the Kyrie talent wise, he
is up there. He's the guy that even the talented
(33:50):
guys look at and say, how.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
Do you do that?
Speaker 6 (33:51):
And that's what that's right, Like, that's what separates him
for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
What's the picture over your shoulder? Right, right, left shoulder,
right shoulder.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I think that's Jordan, right, I don't know, you tell me, yeah, yeah,
it's Jordan. It's Jordan. He's ever president, always president.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
What is he doing in the picture.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
He's given me death, He's given me death. And that
was that was his first time returning to Chicago, and
he had like a thirty minute stand ovation. He had
to tell them to stop clapping for him so we
could play the game. It was that game.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
How'd you do against him?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
That game? That game? I think I had double figures? Uh,
I think I had double figures. And I think we
ended up winning that game. Okay, So I just came
back to me. The first game he came back, I
was hurt. That was the first time I played against
him though, and I think we won that game. But
the first game he came back, they won the game.
But he gave me his shoes that first time he
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came back to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You still have them.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I still have him his first and last shoes he
ever wore against the boards. The games look at you, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Don't sell them. Don't sell them never ever.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I'll sell me first.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I go before.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Great to catch up with you as always. We covered
a lot of ground here. Who would have thought we'd
be talking, you know, Drake and Lebron.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Yes, thank you, Jamul, Thanks, you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's Jamal Crawford, turner sports analyst, three time NBA sixth
Man of the Year, one of Marvin's favorite players. He's
so entertaining, he is great.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
He's great.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
YouTube is your friend, guys, YouTube Jamal Carford highlights. You
won't be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You can do that during the commercial break for sure. Yes,
we're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (35:44):
Sneak a couple of phone calls in here. We talked
to Adam Sandler yesterday in the ten o'clock Eastern hour
and he's on a movie set in Italy. But George
Clooney took time out and I wanted to talk to
him about Anthony Edwards because he putting in his movie Hustle.
And he said, Danny, this guy is an actor. He's
(36:05):
got so much charisma. I'm going okay, you know, And
then I saw some of the outtics there some of
the dailies, as they like to say, and I go, wow,
this guy, and I remember, I mean I was fortunate
this Sandman let me see it, so I was able
to tell people before the movie came out. I said,
wait till you see his personality, because he has got
a lot of it. He is acting in the playoffs
(36:26):
the way he did a movie. He's trash talking, dunking
on people. And right now there's no script for Happy Gilmore.
But I talked to Sandman about you know, is he
going to reach out to Tiger. I think John Daly
he's going to reach out to him. I don't know
anything other than that. Didn't want to bother him while
he was on the movie set yesterday, following up after
our conversation, but Happy Gilmore Too, although he did say
(36:50):
maybe he's retired, comes out of retirement for Happy Gilmore too?
And what kind of storyline could you have? Who could
you have in the movie aside from me? See, I
think I'm gonna have to play myself. It feels like
that because Sandman goes, Danny, You're in it, You're gonna
(37:11):
be You're gonna be you, like I don't want to
be me. Yes, Mark, what about.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
A golfer like Kevin Neeland's part in the First Happy Gilmour.
You could just be a golfer.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'd be a caddie like I never. I don't want
to play myself. That's not any fun.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I got range, I got depth, you know, skills. I
want to maybe one of these days all love interest. Yeah,
just saying.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yes, Well, you could play like a PJ official, a
real terse PJ official. You have to make a call
on something. I'm sure there's gonna be some drama.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
So I'd be a buy the book kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, no wiggle room. Yeah, he mentioned and you guys
mentioned Tiger Woods being in this Tiger maybe fifteen years
ago probably wouldn't have done a cameo in a comedy,
but now he's back nine. No, pun, I think you
get Tiger to be do a cameo in this movie.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'd rather see John Daily, but John Daly, we expect
him to be John Dayly, like seeing Tiger. Remember that
movie Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, but I don't think Tiger could be anybody other
than Tiger.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I know this is a different comparison. When Tom Cruise
did that comedy turn in Tropic Thunder. I think it's
the best work of his amongst the best work of
his career.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Mage.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
If Tiger played like a totally different version of himself.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I don't think he can, because that's the problem. He's
not an actor. Yeah, I mean, he's Tiger Woods, He's
he's a golfer, Paul. It's it's difficult what I do.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, your people, Yeah, I mean, but maybe you could
help Tiger like like he you would ask him for
golf tips, he would, you could give him acting tips.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well, he just has to be willing to listen to me. Yeah,
And you know, it takes time to get into the role.
What am I? Who am I? What's my motivation? And
who are the women? That's usually what I ask when
I go on a Sandler set. I remember the first
time when I I so, that's my motivation here? Yeah?
(39:11):
And where are the hot women? Danny? Yeah? Who is
the Who's justin Timberlake? Oh, Jessica Bill So Sandman leads
the league and he got her to be in the
movie Member Zohan with Emmanuel Shrieky. I wasn't in that movie.
That's when he wanted to be the He said, can
(39:32):
you play can you give me a Middle Eastern accent
and be a cab driver? I go, no, I got
be a cab driver. And I met Jessica Biel and
you know I was going to be in a scene
with her, and so he's like, Danny, Danny, come on,
got gotta meet Bill. I don't know. It's Jessica Biell.
(39:53):
She comes around the corner and I go, oh, Jessica Bill.
And then he goes, this is Danny. He's this sports guy.
And she goes, hello, sports guy. And then that was it.
That was my interaction there, and then the spark happened. No,
there were no sparks there. Would you think was coming
on the corner of Larry Reference nice little sports center
(40:15):
callback there Larry Beale and Aloha means goodbye, And that's
exactly what she said to me. Aloha means goodbye, sports guy. Yeah,
no sparks. And even the woman I had to kiss
on the blended set, she was in the Goldbergs. The professionals, Yes.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Wendy McLendon, Kobe yes with a hyphen in.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
The very funny uh. We didn't have any chemistry. And
then that's when Sandman said, Danny kiss her, and I go, wait,
it's not in the script. And then it's kind of awkward,
you know when you think about it and that's just
a kiss, you imagine doing a whole scene, sex scene,
and you know, so I'm going high. I had to
introduce myself to her right before I kiss. Sir, I'm Dan.
(41:02):
She goes, I'm Wendy, and I go, okay, so we're
supposed to kiss.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yes, yes, and then she slipped my tongue, which was
really it just meant yes. That was she said, hold
habits die Hard, And the cameras weren't even wrong. No,
no actor, no, we weren't even shooting anything. Come here,
sport her. We get us right. Xander Shoftley PG Champ's
(41:29):
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I hope you'll stay with us final hour on this Tuesday,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan
It's Dan Patrick Show. Heat a discussion first hour. It's
the topic that everybody is talking about, and we gave
you our opinions. We didn't mince words. Should Chet Holmgren
have been on the All Rookie Team? He didn't play
(00:25):
his rookie year, but he's on first team All Rookie.
So we did a deep dive. We wanted to find
out how you qualify for a rookie If you're a
baseball player, when are you not a rookie? The NFL
we have their policy as well, All Rookie Team. Well
pretty much, if you've been on a practice squad, played
(00:45):
in the Canadian Football League, you've had any other pro
football league, or any kind of experience preseason training camp,
you are not eligible for All Rookie awards. Now, Warren
Moon created in the CFL one titles there came down.
He wasn't a rookie when he got to the NFL,
but in the NBA he would be a rookie. Eachier
(01:09):
Row was I think twenty six when he came over
to Seattle. He had been MVP over there in the
Japanese league, he won Rookie of the Year and he
won MVP as well.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, Paulie Joelle Embiid missed his first two seasons of
NBA and he was completely eligible for Rookie of the
Year his third year in the league and he finished
third twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Jamal Crawford's going to join us, a former NBA player.
We'll get his thoughts on that also, Kenny, he remember
a team under more pressure than the Celtics this year
to win a title really in any sport. If anybody
has any other suggestions. We brought up a few of those.
The Braves in the mid nineties finally got one. I
brought up the Dodgers a couple of years ago, with
(01:51):
all that money that was spent, all those all stars,
Clayton Kershaw, Dave Roberts, that they had to have won.
There's been a few recent history, but here are the Celtics.
They've been here before. We expect them to win the title.
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Our radio affiliates around the country. Seaton pull question for
hour two, Let's clean up our one, let's clean up
our one. Is chet Hoolmgren a rookie? Right now?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Sixty percent of the audience say no, we also had
up there. Who will get back to us first, the
NBA or Panini on our two ridiculous questions?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Right now, fifty nine percent of the audience have Panini
and they were correct. Panini has gotten back to us
and said chet Holmgren's rookie cards were from last year.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Officially.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, I don't have word as of yet if
they're doing some type of like all rookie team card
for this year, or if they're they do those things,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, Todd, did you hear back from the Yeah, Panini
gets it. That's why. Yeah, I knew that.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I know they do this Rising Stars game or series
of games at All Star Weekend, But a couple of
years ago at NBA All Star Weekend it was rookies
versus sophomores. If they did rookies versus sophomores, Chet Holmgren
would have been on which team rookie that would have
been wild. But he didn't play, I know, but he was,
you know, paid on the team in the facility. I'm
(04:27):
just curious that he would have played with the rookies
if he were offered.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
To imagine Derek Lively of the MAVs, who would have
been first team All Rookie. He's second team All Rookie. Yes, Marv. Sorry.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Going back to teams with the most pressure. What about
the Sixers with Doctor J. Was there a lot of
pressure on them back then to win a title?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I don't remember. I know that well, there was pressure
on them when they had Doctor J and George McGinnis
and world be Free Darryl Dawkins, I think at the time.
But I but I don't like they hadn't been there
like Boston. Boston, this has been a half a decade
where their Eastern Conference finals are playing for a title
(05:12):
NBA Finals, and I think just waiting for something to happen,
and it never It hasn't happened yet. But I mean,
these players are so young. You know, they're in the
league at twenty one, they're playing five years now, they're
on their second contract, and the expectation level we would
normally never have this expectation level, but everything we have
(05:35):
just you know, fast forward that Okay, you've been in
the league for two years, when you're gonna win an MVP. Hey,
when are you going to win a title? It didn't
used to be that way. That you got usually I
don't know, four to five years, and then there were
expectations now as soon as you come in, like are
you able to do this? You know, I go back
(05:57):
with Elway when Elway lost all those Super Bowls, and
then they were going back again with Chrell Davis. But
I don't know if anybody said, oh, they got to win,
or because they were the Broncos and they'd always lost,
like the Buffalo Bills, they went nobody's gonna go four
consecutive years and lose four consecutive Super Bowls. And I
think every time each year when they went back, it
(06:20):
was like, how are they going to lose this year?
It wasn't Boy, they better win. The window of opportunity
is closing, yes, Mark.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I think the difference between them and the Celtics is
the Celtics were really good, really young. So in twenty
eighteen they get the game seven of the Conference finals.
So you're thinking to yourself, all right, they're gonna get
They're gonna get to the mountain top real soon. And
now it's year seven, and you're kind of thinking, you know,
players age like dogs. So they're twenty five and twenty six,
(06:48):
but they were in year seven eight. Yeah, so I
can't treat them like they're twenty two to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But they're they're so young. They're acting like they're young
when they get to this big moment. But we don't
allow that anymore. Your second year in the league and hey,
you better make the playoffs. It just feels like we
have jump started sooner with the expectation levels, and you
don't realize how much older, how much longer certain players
(07:17):
had been in the league before they won a big
playoff series or got to play for a title. I
mean Magic coming out of Michigan State and then all
of a sudden, he's winning a championship. I mean those
things don't happen. You go from winning the title first
year and then all of a sudden you close out
Philadelphia with one of the great closeout games of all time.
(07:37):
And how old was Magic at the time, twenty I
mean that's unheard of.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, Paul, these are a little different, but in the
same topic of a team that had a ton of
pressure to win, almost as a relief the seventy three
win Warriors team fifteen to sixteen. They didn't win the finals. Yeah,
and that really killed the historical punch of that season,
beating the Bulls at seventy three. Can you imagine if
they won that year, the permanent discussion of the greatest
single season NBA history. They had to be involved, but
(08:05):
they're not really involved anymore because they didn't close it.
It's like the Patriots when they had the perfect season, Yeah,
and it got spoiled by the Giants. It's still a
really cool season, but it's not historically, but it wasn't
a build up to that, No, just a single season pressure.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I remember with the Patriots going undefeated and we
just assumed they were going to win. It wasn't.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now, look, I famously and at the time stupidly said
on Letterman the Giants were going to beat the Patriots.
But I truly believed that they were going to beat
the Patriots. I wasn't trolling anybody, but everybody thought they
were going to win. And I remember when I said it.
I was done with the show and I'm driving back
home and I go, what did I just do? I
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think I even called Paulie. I go, I just said
the Giants are going to beat the Patriots in the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You called me on the way home from the taping. Yeah,
because it hadn't been on the letter tape.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It at five o'clock, and I'm thinking I'm gonna get crushed.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
But then you said, I remember you saying, but there's
a lot of Giants fans in the crowd and they
loved it.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, but nationally, Oh this hurts. Oh, I just got
an email we all did. That is stupid. You know what?
That is unfair? Hey, you can watch the Sports Emmys tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
From a distance.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I might as well get used to it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Open bar too.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I did like to grow to like that restaurant though,
that we would go to after we lost. Yeah, when
they're in New York City, there's like a restaurant like
two floors down.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, and he ate food off of your plate. Yeah
I did. I was like, whoa pat SJ just.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Like reached in and grabbed like fries off your plate
or something, even asking by.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
A vowel and some asparagus.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
That was tough. That was tough. Yeah, is the NBA
sending the Nixon email?
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Hey, tonight game one.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
How you can watch nick fan Yeah sending a joker
a reminder tomorrow night they Western converage. Check tomorrow night.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Who's under more pressure us winning a Sports Emmy or
the Celtics win the NBA?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Wow? Well we were nominated five consecutive years. That's similar
with the Celtics. Buffalo Bills is really yeah? Yeah, we're
the Buffalo Bills of sports radio. Great fan base, great city,
(10:30):
and we have a great fan base. Yeah. Man, now
that you put it like that, that hurts even more. Hey,
watch the Sports Emmys tonight. Hey, you're not nominated, but
the thrman Thomas of the Oh, who's gonna who would
forget their helmet? Todd? Would you forget your helmet?
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I'm pretty angle about that stuff. I set up everything
like the night before on the bed.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Your white lays out here exactly.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
It's like these shoes go with this year, read this time.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
How about a couple of phone calls here, Baker and
Bozeman is back. That's the literation that Paulie hates Baker
and Bozeman is back.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
I appreciate that alliteration. Dan, thanks so very much of
taking the call. Sure, I've got I've got another question
for Frishy to throw out, both to the NBA and
to Panadian America if you believe it. So, here's the thing.
Last year, the NBA introduced for the first time ever
a conference in Vegas that happened during the Summer League
NBA con and I attended it with my colleague and
we were making plans to go back again this year.
Speaker 10 (11:34):
It was great.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
They had autographed sessions with Victor one beyondba Que, mat
Bill Jabarn, all these different sessions, and Premium America, by
the way, was one of the vendors there. I met
all the guys there forming in America. Well, just thirty
days ago on May first, the NBA decided not to
do it again in twenty twenty four, and it just
shock me as odd that they wouldn't repeat the conference,
because it's really a showcase for the league, for the
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association technically. I was curious if the NBA would say
why they didn't repeat their conference this year in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Okay, well, let Todd send it, you know what. Let's
see if the NBA responds to our email from an.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Hour, Yeah, they don't need a second one.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Just yeah, we can't don't want to do that. Yeat
Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug.
Speaker 10 (12:18):
Hey Dan.
Speaker 11 (12:18):
I wanted to revisit Seaton's point because he said it correct,
but I'm not sure that you guys understood him correctly.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
It's not that one.
Speaker 11 (12:26):
Hundred and thirty at bats is when you're no longer
a rookie. It's when your rookie season starts.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
And the reason.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
For instance, there's this shortstop with the Orioles Gunner Henderson.
He was called up at the end of August the
team got to expand its roster. He's, you know, he
gets to play in a few games, gets one hundred
and sixteen at bats, which is not doesn't cross the threshold.
He's called back in the spring, makes the team, and
he's now the reigning rookie of the Year. So one
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hundred and thirty is the starter of your rookie year,
not the end of it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Okay, Well, thank you Doug for the clarification. You have
to start the season and then you have a one
hundred and thirty events and then you're officially a rookie
in Major League Baseball. Bill in New Hampshire, Hey, Bill,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Hello?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (13:14):
I just wanted to point out that Lou Panella was
made at his first major league at that in nineteen
sixty four, and he became the rookie of the year
with the expansion Seattle Pilots in nineteen sixty nine. So
he went all those intervening years, settling back and forth
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between the majors and miners. So he was in his
fifty year when.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
He was.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
All right, he's twenty five years of age.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, it is. I didn't know Lou won it when
he was in Seattle. I thought he won it in
Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're right, it was Kansasity. He started in Baltimore in
sixty four, went back to the miners. He played a
touch in Cleveland in sixty eight, then with the Kansas
City Royals in sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
He was rookie of the year.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, Well, David Robinson did two years of military then
joined the NBA with the Rookie of the year.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, I think he's twenty four. Yeah, where was the outrage?
Then there's no sports radio. Barry in Santa Fe Hi Berry,
welcome back, Good.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Morning fellas, Good morning chat Ro. You were talking about
uniforms before The biggest all time blunder fiasco of brand
changing has to be my New York Islanders. They went
from the classic Stanley Cup four in a row blue
and orange two the Gordons fisherman with deel I mean,
(14:41):
I mean Ranger fans still call a fish sticks for
crying out. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thank you Berry. We were talking about Edmonton Advanced last
night and we looked those uniforms. They're great, home and
away awesome. But I think that's because of Gretzky that
that we associate those uniforms with winning a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Those are great uniforms. Yeah, point yeah, I'm looking back
at this. I didn't recall in the seventies and eighties
the Islanders were classic and they always won. In the nineties,
I'm checking the year. It's very similar to like the
Vancouver Grizzlies type uniforms, blue aqua orange with like a
wave and a really mean looking fisherman in the middle,
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like a guy who looks like he's gonna catch him
fish and kick your butt. Not pretty, not even like
retro pretty.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Who's the marketing person who goes, I got a great idea,
we got we got a winning tradition. Let's throw away tradition.
Let's bring in a new Let's bring in teal. Let's
start fresh. Everybody loves Teal. We won four straight Stanley
Cups with this, I know. But now we capitalize and
then we have a new uniform, you know, the big
bad fishermen. Here come the fish sticks. By the way,
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I've said this before, The Island that Islander group is
the best team I ever covered. And covered is probably
not a fair description, but I did stories on the
Islanders with la Fontaine and Flatley. Never interviewed Billy Smith
because he didn't like the media. But they had wonderful
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like they were professional players. They were not an ego
BOSSI was there Trozier in a wonderful team, one of
the great teams of all time. Al Arbor their head coach.
They were professional that if you ask for somebody, you
got somebody, except for Billy Smith. He's like, I'd love
to do a story on Billy Smith. Yeah that's not happening,
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just not I said, yeah, yeah, pull or no, yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
But as professional, at least the way I remember it.
As professionals they were when they started losing late in
the third period of games, they just decided to start
fighting people. There were a number of Islander games I
remember watching where once they knew they weren't going to win,
they just dropped the gloves and started fights.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So why would you do that when I just gave
them a tribut.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Were very professional in a lot of ways, and they
were very successful. How do you know I'm going based
on what you just said, I'm taking your word for it.
But on the ice, once the game they knew they
were going to lose, they started fighting.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So do I have to take your word for it
that all they did is fight when they were losing.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
All they did. I watched the number of games down
three one with four minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let's start being winning. They were winning. Stanley Cupps Todd
maybe later, but not that group, not that Pat Lafontaine
is not going to be fighting anybody. Nice journal start something.
Thank you, Marvin Well, take a break. Jamaal Crawford will
join us coming up. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, tonight, game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. According
to DraftKings, I got the Pacers getting ten Celtics overwhelming
favorites to reach the NBA Finals. It's bringing our good buddy,
Jamal Crawford, Turner's sports analyst, former NBA player, three time
NBA sixth Man of the Year, Jamal we spent a
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lot of time on this cheed Holmgren was named the
All Rookie Team his second year in the league. Where
do you stand on rookies who are in the second
year and they make a rookie team or some have
won Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
It was his first time on the court, so I'm
okay with that. But I think absolutely him being able
to watch the game, get stronger, getting the rhythm of
NBA travel, getting the rhythm of how the NBA works
without actually playings. It's almost like having the answers to
the test because you start seeing things a little bit differently.
And he'll surepare you for that second year, but your
first techning year.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Playing well, he's kind of a red shirt freshman, isn't he.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, in a way, it absolutely is, And that could
be some of the foundation for his career going forward,
just being able to get all that knowledge.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
First, all right, let's turn our attention to tonight's game.
Can you remember a team with this much pressure on
it to win, that they have to win, who that
they have to win?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I would have to go back to like the Heatles
with the heat Yeah, they had a lot of pressure
on them when they got together, you know, So I
think for these guys, it's all or enough and everybody
knows that it's been like that all year.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, how does it not happen? Like they have the talent,
they are young, and it felt like that pressure got
to them before. How do you learn how to win
a championship?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, you learn from your mistakes, and they actually have
been to the championship series. I think for them, and
I've said it all year, there as talented as five
as there is the league. But what can get them
is trust. Are you going to trust the same way
you do when you're up teen, when you're up fifteen,
the balls hopping, everybody's touching it, or you're going to
revert to going one on one and more isolation basketball.
(20:38):
And I think when they do that, that's when they
allow teams to stay around, and that's when they put
even more pressure on themselves that they don't need to.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, we keep waiting to anoint Jason Tatum is maybe
the face of the league, but I don't know if
he's ever going to be the face of the league.
He's a wonderful player, but I don't even know if
he wants to be the face of the league. What
do you what is the rap on Jason Tatum.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Well, he's accomplished a lot at a young age. I
think when he actually wins the championship, because he'll win one.
When he wins one, I think people will look at
his whole career in the totality of the stuff he
has done, and Dan, to be honest with you, after
the Lebron and the Kds and the Stepfs, you know,
continue on. I'm not sure there will be just one
face of the league. I think you'll need a bunch
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of guys. I think you'll need Victor, you'll need the Checks,
You'll need Tatum, you'll need and you need Luca. You
need all these guys to kind of help push the
league forward because seeing the Lebron's, the Steps and those
type of guys, that's gonna be tough to top.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How much did bowing out the way he did against
Ant and the Wolves isn't gonna put a dent in
the Jokers legacy.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I'm not sure he bowed out. I think he brought it.
I've watching him up close for as much as I
did this. This playoff run is fascinating. You really have
to combine for five players to be this guy like
he's damn he's not just playing against the players, He's
playing against the coach. And that's what makes me different.
(22:09):
I'm not always playing get you guys, let me see what.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Do this?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So he is a one of one and he is
special and fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Okay, but what is it about him? Because he's like
a hybrid there of players. It's not like you go, oh,
you know he reminds me of because I don't know
if there's anybody like him.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
No, there's not just one person like him. He has
some of the Kams footwork and he brings out the
Kareem skylook on the same possession all then he'll know,
look you and pass like magic the bird. The thing
that's interesting, really special about him, besides his mind is
he can kind of blend two eras he can play
nineties bullies ball and get in there and make you
look small. Or he can step out here threes, get
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to the dribble, handoffs and make plays on the perimeter
like the players do today, the bigger guys. So he's
the one guy that can kind of win two ears.
Oh and I can score forty whenever I don't whenever
I want, But sometimes I'll score forty when I don't
want to as well, and he can pass and find everybody.
He's a special player.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, one of the best, and he's one of the
selfless players. When you think of great players, Steve Nash
comes to mind. He won a couple MVPs. They had
to tell him to shoot, you know. Jokers had a
couple of seasons where you know, he was like twentieth
in shot attempts, and that's saying a whole lot for
an MVP.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
And the really, really, really special thing about him, out
of all the players I've seen, I studied the game
for a long time. I was just thinking about this.
I stayed it since I was eight years old, so
thirty six years for a superstar. He makes the right play,
probably more consistently, in a higher percentage than most superstars
I've ever seen. Like, if it calls for me to
pass ten straight times, I'll do that with a smile.
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If it calls for me to score five straight times,
I'll do it. He makes the right play almost every
single time down the court, and that's that's almost impossible
to do.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Who's a better passer, Joker or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I would give Joker the advantage only because his height,
he can see different angles. Care I'm a basketball guy, right,
astball guys, I got to say that Holds is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Does Denver need to make big changes to its roster?
Speaker 6 (24:22):
I think they need to solidify their events a little
bit more. I think when they lost uh Brown last
year and they lost Jeff Green, I thought they hurt
them big time, you know, because it took out guys
that can switch. It took out athletic guys, it took
off vet guys. It took out almost another set of
playmakers as well. If you saw when Jamal Murray really
got off in a series, he got off the ball,
he let Gordon or Joker bring the ball up, which
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freed him to kind of play the attack game. And
their team is built for him to be the attacker.
So I think they need a couple more playmakers.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Our dynasty is dead in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I'm not sure they're dead, but I think they'll be
harder to to do. When you when you go back
and think about Jordan winning three, taking me a year
and a half off and come back and win three more,
we will never see that again, and especially the way
player movement is as well, the way contracts are structured guys.
You remember in the eighties, like we knew everybody on
the Celtics knew it was Age Bird and Harris and
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mckille and all these guys in nearby the Lakers with
Scott and Magic and Worthy, Arambus and Kareem. So we
don't identify our players like that anymore. Just being with
that team now, we just kind of follow the player.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, I wonder what the salary structure with the salary
camp and moving forward, can you have big threes? And
I don't know if you can, I don't. I mean,
Phoenix has it, but it's not going to work for them. Okay,
See as a lot of young players under contract Minnesota,
you know they're not necessarily a young I mean, Rudy's
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been around a while and so is Cat. But so
I don't know what Boston's got those two guys under
contract and Tatum and Brown. I'm just curious if teams
to get that third star or they use the money
to maybe even out the roster. And ye had a
little bit more on the bench.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Well, you heard Kendrick Lamar in the in the rep beef,
he says it's no big three it's just big me.
That was just a big me. It's just I think
you're right. I think it'll be the two star crime model,
and you go around that I actually like that model better,
to be honest with you, I think that, Yeah. I
think that third guy sacrifice was a lot and he
never gets a chance to be him, and I think
the two guys have to figure it out. And I
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miss that part of it, like, Okay, it's us two,
it's those two, but our benches and our role players
and our coach and all that stuff. They come into
the game a lot more. And I missed that that
time period.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Why does it seem like people don't like Drake?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
He's been on top for a long time then, like
you know, it's it's it's hard to keep that same
further when you're that's why you're damn Patrick.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Is Drake and Lebron Is there parallels?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I can see that absolutely. I think that might be
the basketball version, that might be the rap version. For sure,
they've been on top for a long time.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Who's better at what they do? Drake or Lebron?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I would say Lebron. I think I think Drake is
one of the greatest artists ever, I think Lebron's one
of the greatest basketball players ever had to hire a
hired tea.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Do you believe Lebron's not involved in the coaching search
for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
I think Lebron, if he says it's now, I'm gonna
takehim for his word. But I would think a player
of that magnitude they kind of know what's going on.
At least in my experiences of playing with top players,
they were in the loop, and when they weren't in
the loop, they were a little upset by that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Okay, but Lebron does a podcast with JJ Reddick. Yes,
do you think at some point, maybe when they're not
recording that Lebron says something to JJ or JJ says
something to Lebron about coaching the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
There has to be some conversation, right, Yeah, they respect
each other's basketball intellect. They would not have done a
pod together. That could just be normal friends talking like
we're talking coaching right now, right, So, I'm sure they've
had some type of conversation about that.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
What advice would you give Bronnie James?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
You know what, I watched him at the Combine and
even before that. You can go back to my tweets.
I love how he plays, I love how you was raised,
his humility, And now I'm in the aest circuit because
I'm coaching my son, so I know what it's like
to be like, you know, the famous kid, and everybody's
kind of watching you and hoping things don't go well
for you. He hands it beautifully and he knows how
to play the game. And what I'm not in the
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comparison part of it, but just watching him. He's athletic,
he can shoot it. He makes the right play almost
all the time. So he'll find his way and he'll
definitely be a pro at what round and what pick
I don't know, but he'll be a pro because he
has the right makeup in the right.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Okay, but if I take away the name, if I
take away the name, let's be honest. Yeah, and you
went to the combine, are you noticing Bronnie.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
James Absolutely six to one forty inch bird that's gonna
jump off the page first, and then he shoot twenty
five threes. You make nineteen of them. I'm watching that
as well, and he's making the right play for somebody
to have the name that long and not try to
play up to that pressure. Yeah, I think that's impressive.
Been itself.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What's your what was your vertical?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
It wasn't forty, It was thirty two and I needed
another eight, So it may be I made a ball
eight from somebody else. I think it was like thirty four.
Maybe it wasn't forty, Yes for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, but what was it?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
The best leaper you saw where you go? That's that's
not real, Like that's not fair.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
I seen a couple of them, Vince Carter. James flight
White was taken off from the free throw line and
he's assistant coach with the Timbrelves right now in wind Millon.
In high school. Derreck Rose, when I saw him, he
was like a world class track act. He was like,
he's not, he's he has a supercharger in his body.
That's not you're supposed to play. People forget how athletic
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and how great he was before any injuries. Derrick Rose
one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
On the White from Florida.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I think he was from d C. He may went to.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Florida playing Florida.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.
James flight White, what about you then, who did you?
And of course m J right like he some guys
know about one foot or two feet he was doing
like who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Was? Oh, I go back. First guy I ever saw
who was different was Elgin Baylor where he just yeah,
his his elevation was was something where he went, Okay,
that's different. I didn't see Russell play, but I saw
just about everybody else athletically. Doc doctor J in traffic
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was so great at dunking because he would just get
it go like big hamp boom, throw it down.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Darnell Hillman doctor Uh. I think they called him doctor
Dunk or something a b a big afro Darnell Hillman.
I remember, uh, Connie Hawkins remember bro? Yeah, yeah, I'm
trying to think who else might have been where you
just watch and you go a man. That guy could
hit his head on the rim right now. That that's
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old school. Going back.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Kevin Harland asked me something, and I'm going to ask
you if you could only watch a player who could
handle the ball like magic, right, not magic Johnson would
like magical, look beautiful, somebody who had the best jumper ever,
and somebody who could fly through there you can only
watch one game of that person. Who would it be?
Who's your stop?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So, who's my player that has all of those?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
No one player that had the best at that. Who
would you rather watch? The ball handler or the shooter? Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, you and me are shooters, yes, so yeah, yeah,
I would take a shooter, just like I love I
like eravich Is is one of the best ball handlers ever,
and and Kyrie is in there as well. I mean
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there's there's a few guys who were unbelievable and by
ball handling, I always say, how are you in traffic?
Because that's really what I want to see? If tight spaces?
Can you get out of the tight space? And Kyrie's yes, great,
great point dunking. I don't know, like I just never
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I know, but unless he's jumping over Frederick Weiss, I
mean it's it's just like I I got to see Dominique.
Dominique always tomahawked like he didn't do one handed, and
he did it in traffic. And I saw Doctor J
like that. I got spoiled. So Vince is, you know, incredible.
But I always found the guys that could jump weren't
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necessarily the best players because they relied. It's like a
beautiful woman who doesn't develop her personality, like, hey, I'm beautiful,
look at me. Dunk and then can you play? You know,
can you shoot? Can you play deep? You know? All
those things. So I'm not as big on the dunking
part of it.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Okay, I think I chose the the guy in the
type spaces. I thought shooting was cool, dunking was cool,
but the guy that that's where the magic happened. So
I think I chose. If I could watch one game,
I think it would be the Kyrie type player.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Is Kyrie the most talented player who ever played the game?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
The most talented? Yes, not the best talented. I would
say he's one of the most talented and one of
the most skilled. I think Jordan checks both boxes. I
think Jordan's the most talented. I think he's the most skilled.
I think he's the best player. I think he checks
every box for me personally, the Kyrie talent wise, he
is up there. He's the guy that even the talented
(33:50):
guys look at and say, how.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
Do you do that?
Speaker 6 (33:51):
And that's what that's right, Like, that's what separates him
for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
What's the picture over your shoulder? Right, right, left shoulder,
right shoulder.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I think that's Jordan, right, I don't know, you tell me, yeah, yeah,
it's Jordan. It's Jordan. He's ever president, always president.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
What is he doing in the picture.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
He's given me death, He's given me death. And that
was that was his first time returning to Chicago, and
he had like a thirty minute stand ovation. He had
to tell them to stop clapping for him so we
could play the game. It was that game.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
How'd you do against him?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
That game? That game? I think I had double figures? Uh,
I think I had double figures. And I think we
ended up winning that game. Okay, So I just came
back to me. The first game he came back, I
was hurt. That was the first time I played against
him though, and I think we won that game. But
the first game he came back, they won the game.
But he gave me his shoes that first time he
(34:48):
came back to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
You still have them.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
I still have him his first and last shoes he
ever wore against the boards. The games look at you, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Don't sell them. Don't sell them never ever.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I'll sell me first.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I go before.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Great to catch up with you as always. We covered
a lot of ground here. Who would have thought we'd
be talking, you know, Drake and Lebron.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Yes, thank you, Jamul, Thanks, you appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's Jamal Crawford, turner sports analyst, three time NBA sixth
Man of the Year, one of Marvin's favorite players. He's
so entertaining, he is great.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
He's great.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
YouTube is your friend, guys, YouTube Jamal Carford highlights. You
won't be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You can do that during the commercial break for sure. Yes,
we're back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Sneak a couple of phone calls in here. We talked
to Adam Sandler yesterday in the ten o'clock Eastern hour
and he's on a movie set in Italy. But George
Clooney took time out and I wanted to talk to
him about Anthony Edwards because he putting in his movie Hustle.
And he said, Danny, this guy is an actor. He's
(36:05):
got so much charisma. I'm going okay, you know, And
then I saw some of the outtics there some of
the dailies, as they like to say, and I go, wow,
this guy, and I remember, I mean I was fortunate
this Sandman let me see it, so I was able
to tell people before the movie came out. I said,
wait till you see his personality, because he has got
a lot of it. He is acting in the playoffs
(36:26):
the way he did a movie. He's trash talking, dunking
on people. And right now there's no script for Happy Gilmore.
But I talked to Sandman about you know, is he
going to reach out to Tiger. I think John Daly
he's going to reach out to him. I don't know
anything other than that. Didn't want to bother him while
he was on the movie set yesterday, following up after
our conversation, but Happy Gilmore Too, although he did say
(36:50):
maybe he's retired, comes out of retirement for Happy Gilmore too?
And what kind of storyline could you have? Who could
you have in the movie aside from me? See, I
think I'm gonna have to play myself. It feels like
that because Sandman goes, Danny, You're in it, You're gonna
(37:11):
be You're gonna be you, like I don't want to
be me. Yes, Mark, what about.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
A golfer like Kevin Neeland's part in the First Happy Gilmour.
You could just be a golfer.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'd be a caddie like I never. I don't want
to play myself. That's not any fun.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I got range, I got depth, you know, skills. I
want to maybe one of these days all love interest. Yeah,
just saying.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yes, Well, you could play like a PJ official, a
real terse PJ official. You have to make a call
on something. I'm sure there's gonna be some drama.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
So I'd be a buy the book kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, no wiggle room. Yeah, he mentioned and you guys
mentioned Tiger Woods being in this Tiger maybe fifteen years
ago probably wouldn't have done a cameo in a comedy,
but now he's back nine. No, pun, I think you
get Tiger to be do a cameo in this movie.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'd rather see John Daily, but John Daly, we expect
him to be John Dayly, like seeing Tiger. Remember that
movie Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, but I don't think Tiger could be anybody other
than Tiger.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I know this is a different comparison. When Tom Cruise
did that comedy turn in Tropic Thunder. I think it's
the best work of his amongst the best work of
his career.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Mage.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
If Tiger played like a totally different version of himself.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I don't think he can, because that's the problem. He's
not an actor. Yeah, I mean, he's Tiger Woods, He's
he's a golfer, Paul. It's it's difficult what I do.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yes, your people, Yeah, I mean, but maybe you could
help Tiger like like he you would ask him for
golf tips, he would, you could give him acting tips.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well, he just has to be willing to listen to me. Yeah,
And you know, it takes time to get into the role.
What am I? Who am I? What's my motivation? And
who are the women? That's usually what I ask when
I go on a Sandler set. I remember the first
time when I I so, that's my motivation here? Yeah?
(39:11):
And where are the hot women? Danny? Yeah? Who is
the Who's justin Timberlake? Oh, Jessica Bill So Sandman leads
the league and he got her to be in the
movie Member Zohan with Emmanuel Shrieky. I wasn't in that movie.
That's when he wanted to be the He said, can
(39:32):
you play can you give me a Middle Eastern accent
and be a cab driver? I go, no, I got
be a cab driver. And I met Jessica Biel and
you know I was going to be in a scene
with her, and so he's like, Danny, Danny, come on,
got gotta meet Bill. I don't know. It's Jessica Biell.
(39:53):
She comes around the corner and I go, oh, Jessica Bill.
And then he goes, this is Danny. He's this sports guy.
And she goes, hello, sports guy. And then that was it.
That was my interaction there, and then the spark happened. No,
there were no sparks there. Would you think was coming
on the corner of Larry Reference nice little sports center
(40:15):
callback there Larry Beale and Aloha means goodbye, And that's
exactly what she said to me. Aloha means goodbye, sports guy. Yeah,
no sparks. And even the woman I had to kiss
on the blended set, she was in the Goldbergs. The professionals, Yes.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Wendy McLendon, Kobe yes with a hyphen in.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
The very funny uh. We didn't have any chemistry. And
then that's when Sandman said, Danny kiss her, and I go, wait,
it's not in the script. And then it's kind of awkward,
you know when you think about it and that's just
a kiss, you imagine doing a whole scene, sex scene,
and you know, so I'm going high. I had to
introduce myself to her right before I kiss. Sir, I'm Dan.
(41:02):
She goes, I'm Wendy, and I go, okay, so we're
supposed to kiss.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yes, yes, and then she slipped my tongue, which was
really it just meant yes. That was she said, hold
habits die Hard, And the cameras weren't even wrong. No,
no actor, no, we weren't even shooting anything. Come here,
sport her. We get us right. Xander Shoftley PG Champ's
(41:29):
going to join us in about twenty five minutes from now.
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