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August 21, 2024 41 mins

Ian O’Connor joins the show to talk about the challenges of writing the unauthorized biography of Aaron Rodgers, “Out of the Darkness: The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers.” And America’s favorite meteorologist, Jim Cantore stops by to weigh in on today’s poll question about the manliest US state to live in weather-wise.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan.
It's Dan Patrick Show. He wrote the book on Aaron Rodgers.
Ian O'Connor will join us coming up no relation to
Seaton O'Connor, but Ian will join us coming up here
in a little bit. Also, Noah Lyles in an hour
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and in some cities ESPN Radio. NFL preseason, the final
week starters are going to rest, and you have two
games on Thursday. You got games all weekend long. College

(00:47):
football starts this weekend. And we realized that there was
a Delaware States trying to get to Hawaii to play
a game. They missed their flight in New York and
their game is going to be Saturday night, but it
would be it would start at twelve eastern for Delaware State,
and so I would think Hawaii is already a big

(01:10):
favorite here. We were trying to get an update is
Delaware State going to make it to Hawaii, and Paulie said,
right now, he's trying to get in touch with the
Delaware State program.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, they have their hands full right now, but we're
expecting an email back any minute. We did find a
little bit about the line was twenty eight and a
half and then after the travel issues with Delaware State,
it went up to thirty eight. Those people in Vegas,
they know what they're doing. What a poorly rested Delaware
State team might not put up as much of a fight.
That's so Vegas to say. Bonus coverage. The Hawaii Rainbow's name,

(01:42):
the team was always the Warriors, and then they changed
to the Rainbow Warriors. Back in the seventies. The reporters
noticed that there was a couple wins where there was
a rainbow that happened during the game, and they had
this running gag like there's a rainbow, we win, and
became the Rainbow Warriors in nineteen seventy four, they dropped
the rainbow part in two thousand didn't go over well,

(02:03):
and in twenty thirteen, Why rightly brought back Rainbow Warriors
as the sports team name.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, I like the Bows better than they do. The Warriors.
Gorgeous helmets, the Rainbow gorgeouses. Yes, very underrated. All right,
So we got football coming up this weekend. It's what
zero week or Week zero as opposed to the first
week of college football. I was also wondering about this
now with the twelve team playoff and how you schedule

(02:31):
your games outside of your conference. If you're in the
SEC or you're in the Big Ten, are you going
to schedule somebody outside of your conference? Look at Oregon,
Penn State, and Ole Miss, three programs that have a
lot of talent on there, but playoff hopes. You know,
they would normally not happen because there were only four
teams in the playoffs. Three playoff hopefuls set to play

(02:55):
seven teams that are ranked in the preseason top twenty five.
Combined those three schools, and in prior years you could
make the playoffs, but it would be difficult if you
were adding these teams that were really good. Eight additional
teams now set to participate in the playoffs, so the
schedule doesn't have to be as tough as it was.

(03:17):
It's not as beneficial because you did need strength the schedule.
Now it's just hey, we can get in and be
one of these twelve teams. And I don't know if
this is going to change out a conference scheduling and
maybe on its way out, but just for instance, here,
Ohio State plays four teams ranked in the top twenty

(03:37):
five this year. This is preseason. Obviously, Georgia has five
in the top twenty five. Oregon has just two in
the top twenty five, but they do have Ohio State
in Eugene, Texas four of twenty five. Notre Dame three
of the twenty five. Penn State has two of the
top twenty five opponents, Ole Miss three. Alabama has five

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of the top twenty five. Alabama plays Wisconsin this year.
If you have five games against ranked opponents in the SEC,
what does that mean? You know what is to gain?
If you're Alabama from here on out with a twelve
team playoff, if they're going to be playing teams outside
of their conference. You got Michigan and Texas second week

(04:22):
of the season, You're probably not going to have those
matchups down the line because of the twelve team playoff. Yeah,
Pauli and the other part of that.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
If you're going to schedule a big, big opponent in
the first week, a second week of the season, it
might be that neutral site game Clemson at Georgia Saturday,
August thirty first, they're playing that at Mercedes Benz Stateium Atlanta,
or you know, like the Cowboys Stadium they always host
a big game, or Innanapolis will host a game. So
those early season matchups Texas remember a couple years ago,
Texas would play Ohio State, but they would do home

(04:52):
at home. Those will be more neutral sites because you
get more money, more payouts that way.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, Texas played Alabama a couple of years ago. Opening
up this season, or at least one of the early seasons,
NBC and the NFL kicking off the season. Two big
matchups coming up Thursday, September fifth, it's the Ravens and
Chiefs that'll be on NBC and Peacock. And then on
Friday live from Brazil it's the Packers in the Eagles

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that is on Peacock exclusively. Man, it got here quick,
didn't it. And the fact that we're going to play
a game in Brazil to open up the second night
of the season, and then you're going to have Sunday
Night with NBC as well, But it's a full slate
coming up, and it starts off with NBC and Peacock.

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You have what forty days to go in the baseball season,
so you have Orioles, Guardians, Astros, Phillies, Brewers, and the Dodgers.
You look at the odds and it really comes down
to it's the Dodgers. They got the Yankees, the Astros
in there. Of teams that can win at all, those
are the favorites. Braves have suffered so many injuries, but

(06:03):
forty days to go, and those are the teams that
are in the first place, and you're going to get,
you know, this stretch drive and who's going to stay healthy.
I think the MVPs are pretty much settled. Otani and
Aaron Judge. Does that sound about right? I don't think
we've wavered on that. I think the only interest maybe, well,
how many home runs does Aaron Judge get to and

(06:25):
as show, hey Otani get to maybe maybe fifty to fifty?
All right? We tease this long enough first hour poll
question Manliest State in America, because I of course am
in one of those Manley states Maine. This week Seaton.
The manliest state in America is.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Well.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Of these six options that we've provided, uh one, it's
getting closer as time goes by. One has been in
the lead since and has no out let go. The other,
as of this moment, has received zero votes.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, your options are we took Alaska out of the
equation here, right, they're emeritus, They're they're the manlea state. Right,
They're the.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Wildest, They're the manliest. Your options are Arizona, Maine, Montana,
North Dakota, Wyoming, Texas.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
One. Wait, why did you put it Arizona in there?

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Because Arizona I feel like just based on the number
of old people go to retire. Okay, well, they're doing
a lot better than one of these other states that
is on there. Okay, Arizona right now is I'll say this,
Arizona is almost tied with Texas for manley estate.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Once again.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
One state has has taken the lead and never given
it up. The other one, as of right now, has
zero votes. Arizona, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Texas, Wyoming. I'm
gonna say North Dakota is the manly estate. North Dakota
right now is winning. Uh they've got a solid hold on.

(08:08):
It's getting closer, though, they're only leading by three percentage points.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
The state that has received exactly zero votes is Maine.
Oh are you to blame?

Speaker 8 (08:21):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
That's a recency buy in at the shot. Wait, I
came up to Maine and now it's not mainly anymore.
We're huge in Maine.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Because it's mainly is what it is. It's not manly,
we're mainly. I am shocked. I am shocked. Wow, they're
gonna export you. Yes, I'm gonna have to turn in
my my main main card. Yes, you should grow a

(08:55):
beard quick, do something. Go get that ax. Okay, thank
you tom uh So. Man, I went fishing. I think
about chopping wood had the boat. Well, I'm trying to
do my best. That's that's for sure. But Maine has

(09:16):
not received a vote. That's great. Shout out North Dakota though,
killing it. North Dakota. I've been there. They might have
the biggest mosquitos I've ever seen. My wife and I
joked we went out for a wedding. We thought that
one of our kids could get picked up by one

(09:37):
of these mosquitos. They were They were so there there
was room in the overhead bin for your luggage with
these mosquitoes, and you're going and it gets cold out
there and there is nothing to block the wind. So hey,
shout out to North Dakota by the way.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Uh, just not to underappreciate Montana coming in with a
pretty strong, strong percentage as well. Right now, the races
between North Dakota and Mountana for manly estate.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna throw the BS flag on that
because I don't think because I got to make if
I wasn't here, Maine would probably be leading. Apparently. Well,
you're you're taking it very personally.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I don't know if it's a statement on you and
your manliness or lack thereof.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's you know what. I'm going to credit the audience
for having a sense of humor. Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's its content.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yes, Paul, I wonder if Maine is suffering suffering some
spillover because people around the country.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
In tougher states. I think the Northeast is soft.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You know Connecticut and you know Massachusetts, Connecticut is yes, yes,
but Maine would seceed from the Northeast if they could.
They would be their own country.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
If they could. They're they're pretty tough up there. Yes,
I mean we're right up there. Well, maybe being up
close to Canada, say, way hurt Maine. Yeah, five days,
it can be wicked cold up here.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yes, yeah, I don't know that Rhode Island is helping
our cause either. As no imple of a state, You're like, well,
yeah they are, I guess. But as I knew what happened,
Texas has immediately jumped into the lead right now because
I knew that they would not stomach this whatsoever?

Speaker 7 (11:18):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Texas now leading, followed by North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming. Hey,
Maine now second from last. They've picked up a couple
of votes. They just jumped ahead of Arizona. Josh and
mein Josh, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (11:37):
Or on dB Hey Bud, so Hey, I got to
check in on this poll question real quick. I'm from Maine,
lived here in forty one years. Here's what's happening, all right.
The guys in Maine are already at work, the mainly man,
they're already at work. So the guys just waking up,
they're getting ready to go to work. That's that's who's
volting right now. So it's it's cute.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, all right, all right, so.

Speaker 9 (11:58):
I call some real knowledge. I want to drop some
knowledge on you.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
All right.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
I got five things if you want to become a manor,
these are five things you have to do, all right,
you ready.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Let me yep, let me write them down. Okay, all right.

Speaker 9 (12:12):
Number one, you got to have a pickup truck. Okay,
that's it's a non starter. You gotta have a truck.
We don't care what shape it's in. Better off if
it's a nineteen eighty four Chevy square body. We're good
with that, all right. So that's the person. Number two,
you got to have a pair of work boots. They
got to be broken in. We don't care if you
tie them, just wear them around, all right. Number three,

(12:33):
you got to pay attention to this one. You gotta
have some piece of equipment lawnmower, track their vehicle and
have to sit on your front lawn. It doesn't have
to run, and it's better off if it doesn't run.
Just wave the hoog popped a little bit. That's how
we know you're a true manner right there. Okay. Four,
you got to have a garage, but you can't park
your car in the garage. All your stuff has to

(12:54):
be stored in the garage, and you park outside the garage.
And number five, this is the most important one. You
gotta always have a bottle of Alan's coffee brandy. You
never know when I'll pull Bobby and Aunt Sally, you're
gonna come over and they gotta have a beverage brandy.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
All right, well, let me see, Uh, gotta pickup truck.
I think I might have designer work boots. I think
they're really nice work boots. I might have work boots.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
You O.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
No, yeah, see, I don't know if Josh just helped
mains case for the manliness contest though the.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Most manly state.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
What you need in order to accomplish that is a truck,
work boots, a lawnmower, and a garage.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, get it done.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Gotta admit I did find one thing for you, Dan,
a main tradition. It's Alan's coffee flavored brandy, number one
selling spirit in the Great State of Maine.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Wow, never heard of it. That's cool. Okay, all right, Okay,
so garage, but it can't park anything in it. I'm
going to put my boat in there. The equipment. Yeah,
you do have to have a front loader, as we
like to say, I need that. Maybe, uh work boots.
I can work on that and pickup truck. Okay, yeah,

(14:14):
I think so. Oh you know what we were we
came up with yesterday accidentally. If we were rappers in
the state of Maine, what would be our rap name?
We'll have that for you. Coming on that, Yeah, I
can't leave. Yeah, yes, if we were a rapper in Maine,

(14:35):
what would be our rap name? I'll have that for you.
But coming up first, Ian O'Connor wrote the book on
Aaron Rodgers. What did he learn? And Uh, well, we'll
see what the juicy details are coming out of that book.
Take a break back after this.

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Speaker 2 (15:32):
We'll talk to Ian O'Connor, who wrote the book Out
of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. He'll join
us coming up here in a moment. A couple of
phone calls Dan in South Bend. Hey Dan, what's on
your mind today? Hey Dan?

Speaker 11 (15:46):
Thanks for taking my call. I was gonna see if
anybody would take me up on a pie of the
safe bet. I think the Giants are gonna win eight games?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Okay, So anybody want a piece of Dan in South
Bend that the Giants will win at least eight games? Todd,
I guess I should, because I said the Giants would
be the worst team in football, so it would make
sense for me to accept that bet.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
All right?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Dan? That one pretty?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Can I give you?

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Gather it?

Speaker 11 (16:13):
A little tit bit about Joe Shane. Okay, one of
his best friends is Brad Stevens. They graduated together from DEPA.
So it's a pretty good graduating class that DePaul Depa
from Southern Indiana.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, I don't know what that has to do with
possible success for the Giants there, but you got them
winning at least eight games. Pie to the face Dave
in California, Good morning, Dave. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (16:45):
Going there? I just heard you mentioned earlier on the
show that you felt that Aaron Judge Show he would
be in two league MVPs if show had not gone
to the National League and he was having the same
season as he's having. Now, did you vote for GMV
Pupil the American Let Show, hay or Aeron Judge?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, I think you got a factor in team Day.
But I think it's a really interesting question. I think
the fact Otani has surprised me. He has been this
good coming off surgery and I know, not pitching. But
if he goes if he's forty forty, it would really
depend on how successful his team is. Aaron Judge and

(17:25):
Aaron Judge tough to come up with an encore performance
considering what he did last year. But once again, it
goes back to team's success should factor in when it
comes to MVP, and that might tip the scales towards
Aaron Judge if show Hay was still with the Angels.
A pole question has to do with the Manley estate,
and I am very disappointed in this audience because they

(17:47):
have designated Maine as the least manly estate, probably because
I am doing my show from Maine today. Jim and
Idaho joints is Hi, Jim, what's on your mind? Dan?

Speaker 7 (18:01):
Boys?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
How the hell are you?

Speaker 9 (18:04):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Great? Jim?

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well, I'm really offended that Idaho did not make the
whole question today.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Here's why.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Let me give you a real world example of roughing
it up her by other day, my fiber optic went out,
couldn't get the internet, couldn't connect to my Peloton bike.
So that's that's not roughing it. I don't know what
I'm a good guy.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Prayers all right, thank you, Jim? Yeah, thaunts and prayers.
Somebody check on Jim and Idaho make sure he's okay.
Adam in West Virginia, Hi, Adam, what's on your mind?

Speaker 11 (18:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (18:41):
Dan, speaking of the mainly of state, al could seton
who's been to WU not put West Virginia in there.
I mean, well, I don't drink anybody. We had the
best white water in the country. We have the Mountaineer.
I mean, isn't there that? And Texas is soft dand
they shouldn't be in the poll because I mean, anybody
that gets defended by you know, horns Down, that's weak.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
That's okay, all right, Adam, thank you. I like this
kind of mud slinging here between the states, and I
agree if horns Down bothers you, how manly can you
be in your state of Texas? Do you want me
to disqualify Texas just based on horns Down? We can
pull them all right down. We won't even have them

(19:25):
on the list anymore.

Speaker 8 (19:27):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Montana, by the way, has jumped into the lead. We
have Montana, followed by North Dakota. Texas is in third,
though they'll be removed shortly.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Main don't you have all those Hollywood types who've moved
to Montana. They're they're they're soft. They're not going to
go up there and rough it. How he long you know,
lives in Montana. Yes, yes, I shouldn't say that he's
not man. I was going to say that kind of
helps Montana's longs there. Yeah, yeah, you're right, let me

(19:56):
take that out.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yes, Howie's head should be the Montana state fly. He's
got that big jawline.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
He's so tough.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
I would say that that TV show Yellowstone really hoped
helped Montana's toughness. Like we knew about ranchers and you know,
ranching and stuff like that, but when a bad rancher
on Yellowstone got out the line, they just.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Dispose of them, if you know what I mean. That's tough.
It's a TV show. Poll I know people thought it
was real. It's not real documentary. It's not a documentary.
It is an unauthorized biography of Aaron Rodgers. Ian O'Connor, sportswriter,
New York Times best selling author, And the new book

(20:32):
is Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers.
Why Aaron Rodgers, Well, it starts with Vince Lombardi.

Speaker 14 (20:42):
Vincelambardi coached my high school. Is the only head coaching
job you ever had before the Green Bay Packers. And
he lived eight houses away from me in Anglood, New Jersey.
And so I was always fascinated by the Packer mistake
and thought I had that Packers book.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
Inside of me, so I guess this is the one.

Speaker 14 (20:57):
But Aaron from a distance, I always found him to
be compelling, mysterious, intriguing.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
He got traded into my backyard.

Speaker 14 (21:04):
I was working on a Lebron James bio and I
pivoted away from it to Aaron because I think he's
a fascinating character, and I thought the marriage of him
and this Charlie Brown franchise in New York would make
for a great story. So far hasn't been so great.
We'll see how it plays out this year. But that's
why I took the project on.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
How do you avoid preconceived opinions notions of Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 14 (21:30):
It's not easy, but I was determined to go into
this open minded, and I think some of his friends
early on. I ended up talking to two hundred and
fifty people, As Aaron said, I reached out to five
hundred and half called me back, that's about right, and
a lot of his friends, I think, early on, in
close associates were concerned that I had an agenda that
Frankly and one of his friends told me this that

(21:51):
you're a media guy from New York, probably liberal, looking
to destroy Aaron in this book and that couldn't be
further from the truth. I had absolutely no agenda, what's
so ever, and I wanted to be open minded about
the vaccine, his stance on that and everything else, including
the conspiracy theories, and so I think I warmed down
over time, and that's the reason that he agreed to

(22:13):
sit down with me at his home in Malibu.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Unauthorized versus authorized. How different would this book be if
it was authorized?

Speaker 14 (22:22):
Well, when it's authorized, Dan, obviously it's that subject's truth
as opposed to the truth or the pure truth. And
I think that unauthorized A lot of people readers think
it's a dirty word, like it suggests a trash book.
It's really a badge of honor. I think it's closer
to a pure form of journalism, and the ideal is

(22:42):
unauthorized biography with the subject's cooperation. With Aaron, I didn't
get full cooperation. That would have required fifteen to twenty hours.
I got two hours with him at the end of
the process to check all of my facts, and he did.
He was very candid and thoughtful and engaging at his
home on the Pacific. It was a great backyard setting
for those two hours. But he made the book better,

(23:04):
and I very much appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm trying to figure this out because is he leading
us to believe that he wants to be left alone
do his own thing, but then still enjoys the spotlight.

Speaker 14 (23:17):
I think he wants to be talked about. I think
he always has, and I think he leans into it now.
Back in August of twenty one, those four words, yeah,
I've been immunized. That turned him into a villain. Before then,
he was considered one of the more socially aware athletes
and sports. He was celebrated by the same journalists who
then turned on him after the truth came out about

(23:39):
his unvaccinated status.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
And I think after that he decided to really.

Speaker 14 (23:44):
Dig in and if the media wanted to go to
war with him, he would be a willing participant in
that war. But I think at the end of the day,
he likes creating news cycles. He can do it just
rolling out of bed. I've rarely seen an athlete who
could command the the way he can. It's amazing that
here we have a Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes going

(24:05):
for a three peat and Aaron Rodgers who hasn't been
to the Super Bowl in a long time is still
by far the most talked about person in the league,
and that's really a major reason why I decided to.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
Do this book.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Does he care what the public things thinks?

Speaker 8 (24:21):
He's humans, so he cares.

Speaker 14 (24:22):
He does, and he's admitted to me, at least in
one answer, that it does hurt when he gets criticized.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
But he's a fearless public speaker.

Speaker 14 (24:32):
I do, on a certain level give him a lot
of credit for that, because I'm not and I think
most people aren't, and he's willing to sometimes unfortunately defend
indefensible positions on things. But yeah, I think the criticism
has hurt him, and I think he was hurt after
those four words. Yeah, I've been immunized when he felt
that he had some media allies who weren't there for him.

(24:54):
He thought he would get some support and some of
those allies would rush to his side, and that did
not happen. So Yeah, he bleeds too, and I think
that he tries to do a good job of not
showing that, but it's there.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
He is.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Ian O'Connor. The book is Out of the Darkness, The
Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Any similarities with other people you've
profiled with coach k Bill Belichick, Derek Cheeter, Arnold Palmer,
Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Good question, Dan.

Speaker 14 (25:22):
I think the one similarity is, and that's why I
was surprised he admitted to me he made a mistake
with his COVID stance back in twenty twenty one, is
that they don't admit mistakes, these greats coaches and athletes.

Speaker 8 (25:36):
They don't admit weakness and faults and errors, and they
never say I'm sorry.

Speaker 14 (25:43):
And I've come to believe the reason is because they
fear that weakness will follow them into the competitive arena
and compromise their chances of winning and winning at a
big time level and becoming an all time great. And
I think, really, when Aaron admitted to me he made
a mistake and wishes he had a mulligan on his

(26:03):
not his stance because he's still anti vaccine, but just
the way he did it and didn't tell his truth
at the time, which was he was allergic to an
ingredient a Pfizer and Maderna and concerned about Johnson and
Johnson's side effects.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Said why didn't you just say that? And he says, yeah,
I should have said it. It was a mistake.

Speaker 14 (26:19):
But when you admit fault guys like Aaron Rodgers, coach,
k Derrek, Cheeter, Belichick, when's the last time you heard
any of them say I'm sorry about anything? And I
really think it comes down to they think it will
hurt them in competition, and that's why they don't do it.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
If you gave Rogers a due over a mulligan of
going to the Jets or the Jets bringing Aaron Rodgers in,
does anybody have a different opinion on that either side.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
No, I think Aaron would still do it. I think
the Jets would still do it.

Speaker 14 (26:52):
Of course after this season, if they have a losing
season or he's hurt again, I think the answer would
be different. But Aaron was no longer wanted Green Bay.
He knew that effectively that was a firing. Even though
he pushed for the trade. He saw this great opportunity
Dan in New York to if he wins a ring
for a franchise in the big city that has not
been to the Super Bowl since January sixty nine, that's

(27:14):
going to feel like three rings and it's going to
be Messia in ninety four for the Rangers on steroids
and I think looking at Brady with seven rings and
Aaron with one, he can't close that gap. But if
he wins the big one for the Jets, it's going
to feel like he really did close that gap.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
And I think he saw that as a great opportunity,
and I agree with him.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I wonder about his career how he've views it because
he's often referred to as the most talented quarterback or
maybe the one or two most talented quarterbacks to ever
played the game, but he has won Super Bowl. Has
it been a disappointment to him in what he's accomplished,
even though he's been League MVP quite a few times,

(27:57):
and I think the.

Speaker 14 (27:58):
League MVPs helps a little bit, and he did win
more of those than Tom Brady, but he that's not
what people count. They count the rings and he's down
six to the guy he will always be compared against,
and that hurts. But he didn't have Belichick, arguably the
greatest coach of all time. He didn't have Josh McDaniels,
the best offensive coordinator in the league, and he didn't

(28:19):
have that Patriot Way support system.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
There are people who believe.

Speaker 14 (28:22):
That Aaron would have won three, four, five, maybe six
rings with the Patriots in the same situation, Brady was
in special teams and defense and coaching were factors in
some of those bitter playoff defeats. If you look at
particularly the period Dan from twenty thirteen through sixteen, those
four seasons of lost postseason opportunities, Aaron made big, sometimes magical,

(28:46):
sudden death plays in each of those seasons, and there's
nothing but failure in the box scores. So I do
think his eleven to ten postseason record can be a
little misleading. But at the end of the day, he's
barely over five hundred in the playoffs and he can't
really run.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
Away from that.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
You let me go back to you saying that he
got fired by the Packers. Did he get himself fired?
Like it's one thing that you know the franchise is
going to turn on you, but it felt like they
were at a point of no return that they had
to do that.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
Well he ended up.

Speaker 14 (29:19):
It was a very similar situation to Brett farre ironically enough,
and Aaron was on the good side of that one
and now on the bad side of the franchise wanting
to turn it over to Jordan Love. And I think
that they always had later in his career the upside
and the downside of employing Aaron Rodgers, but the downside
got greater in that you had him. He wanted more personnel, say,

(29:43):
and influencing decisions, and that's not really the pack away.
I think they gave him a little bit more late
in his career, but not enough. And then suddenly he's
not making the playoffs. That last year he looked like
a diminished player misses the playoffs. So we're not getting
the upside when Aaron's healthy where we're getting in the
play basically every year.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
So they wanted to move on.

Speaker 14 (30:02):
He knew that, and again with the Jets, it was
a great opportunity, Hey, go to the big city. I'm
coming from the smallest market in the NFL. Let me
go to the biggest and try to pull off something
that would be pretty iconic. And so it was both
parties knew they had to have this divorce. But deep

(30:23):
down he's hurt by that, and people close to him
told me that. And so ideally, if he could reach
the Super Bowl, I think the team he would want
to face and beat is the Green Bay Packers for
obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
What was the one question that you wanted an answer to.

Speaker 14 (30:40):
Family estrangement, and he did address some of that on
the record, and I appreciated that because he didn't know
me an answer to that question. But it's gone on
now for nearly ten years, and it's a complicated issue.
There's not one defined moment, dan or issue that separated
this family. But I was happy that he agreed to

(31:01):
address that and also addressed that he his father told
me that they had a hug last year at Lake
Tahoe at the celebrity golf tournament, and Aaron came over
in the middle of his Saturday round, saw his father
in the crowd and gave him a hug and said
I love you, and Ed Rodgers was crying, and it.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Was an emotional moment.

Speaker 14 (31:18):
It only lasted about thirty seconds, but it meant something
to both men. Aaron wanted to be his father. His
father was his idol when he was growing up. And
so Aaron told me for the book, and this is
the first time he's ever said this publicly. He wants
to have a relationship with a family member, this being
his father, and so hopefully that happens. And I think
the road to family reconciliation will run through Ed Rodgers,

(31:42):
and let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
If you had to predict what is Aaron Rodgers doing
after he's done playing, I think.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
He'll be one of the best analysts in a network booth.

Speaker 14 (31:55):
Ever, and I know he says he doesn't really have
interest in that, but when he's talking football, there's nobody
like him. I think he's even better at it, or
would be than Brady and Peyton Manning.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
He's a computer.

Speaker 14 (32:07):
When he's talking football, it's mesmerizing and I think he
would be unbelievable at it. And I don't see another
path for him. I don't think politics is the answer.
I think he'll stay in football and that seems to
be the natural second career for him.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Good to talk to you, Ian, Good luck with the book.
Thank you, Hey, damn my pleasure.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Ian O'Connor. Out of the Darkness with Aaron Rodgers, and
there's a lot in there now. He did say, could
you see him being an analyst? And I didn't think
of that, But then he would be a good analyst.
I just don't know. Is it something that would excite him.
I don't know that it's like Peyton Manning wanted more

(32:49):
than just being an analyst. Tom Brady I thought would
want more than just being an analyst. But he is
getting paid an exorbitant amount of money. I get that.
I thought that that would be ownership stuff. I know
he's involved with the Raiders. Same thing with Peyton. I
just feels like, you guys, I mean, Paul, do you
think Aaron Rodgers analyst is something that would satisfy someone

(33:12):
like that who's so curious? And it almost feels like
I got to dumb myself down to talk football America.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I've always found that Aaron Rodgers is a bit of
a no at all, and that's not necessarily an insult.
I'm actually complimenting his football knowledge. When you talk football,
he gets really into it. I think he needs an
outlet for that. I think he's one of those guys
who will do the games and then you won't see
him for seven months. I don't I can't see him
as a year round type media person, but a guy
who's going to do games and you won't.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
He'll be gone, all right, We'll take a break when
we come back. Jim Cantore from the Weather Channel. When
he shows up it's time to leave. We're going to
have him tell you the manliest state weather wise, and
also if we were going to be a rapper in
the state of Maine, what would our rap All of
that coming up, and then Noah Lyles, the gold medal winner,

(34:04):
will join us top of the hour. We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
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Speaker 2 (34:17):
I was just walking around here in the main cave
and I went and got my axe. That seat and
bought me when I first decided that I was going
to build something in Maine, I went out and got
an axe thanks to Seaton. So, uh, there's a protective no,
no protective covering there, Paully. That's what you do. You

(34:38):
have a protective covering there and then that goes right
there and then if you're walking around, if you happen
to fall, then you're protected there. That's what we do,
us maners. We know how to handle equipment. Yes, ba,
I think I want to send you a cease and
tosist with this axe. Why, first of all, it's too
small to chop wood that thing.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Wait too, it's more of a hatchet really it Well, okay,
you have a technu you can maybe you know that
might be more for kindling than than for like proper. Yeah,
you know what I'm doing during the commercial breaks, I'm
putting together a log.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
You know, cabin.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
You're building a log cabin in the no no, no,
no no. Where you stack your logs? Where? So I've
got the what's that called firewood log racking team log rack?
Yeah this sounds this is not helping. Yeah, you're right,
you know, once I get terminology down, I am going

(35:39):
to be awesome firewood Yeah yeah, yeah, uh you know.
Speaking of tough, Jim Cantorea the Weather Channel. He travels
all over and usually going to places that aren't very
nice and joining us on short notice so he can
give us his thoughts on the manliest states weather wise

(35:59):
that you've ever been to. Jim, thanks for joining us.
The manliest state Okay, yeah, like horseh's weather, Like you've
got to be a man to live here. What would
be your top dude?

Speaker 7 (36:12):
Honestly, the worst.

Speaker 15 (36:15):
The worst weather is Chicago, you know, dealing with the
wind off the lake because I was out doing live
shots one time. And you know, I didn't even notice
until I walked back into the truck. I'm like, guys,
look at my no I'm looking in this little mirror.

Speaker 7 (36:31):
Look at my nose. It's white.

Speaker 15 (36:32):
I got frostbite on my nose. I didn't even realize
that my cheeks were starting to turn white. So yeah,
Chicago's got to be Uh, that's gotta get that's got
to get the wind in Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
What about rural areas, Oh.

Speaker 15 (36:46):
My god, the outer banks in North Carolina. I mean,
they want to they want to hang me. They hate
it when I come out there to cover hurricane because
I am.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But it's not your fault here. You didn't ran the hurricane,
Dan tell them that.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (37:00):
By the way, when you when you were wheeling that
axe earlier, I thought if they were going to do
a remake for Fargo, I think you got it.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
I think you're a shoe in just sewing out.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well, speaking of Fargo, where like the coldest temperatures where
you just got it? Because I'm in Maine and obviously
you know I'm manly, but uh, I.

Speaker 15 (37:25):
Mean it's really the Northeast. There's just something about that
biting cold after a storm. I mean one time we
were in Massachusetts in March for a thirty five degree
snowstorm and it was just like such a wet, gloppy
snow and it went inside all of my clothing. It
was just like, I am like hypothermic right now, I
am absolutely I have to stop doing shots, so I'm

(37:46):
gonna freeze it out.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So that was that was right, you get Well, Dakota's
got to be up there.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
North Dakota's got to be up North Dakota's got to
be up north. You know what.

Speaker 15 (37:56):
For the record, that's the only place I have not
been for the Weather Channel to do coverage. I've done
every other stake, every other stake except North Dakota. So
I gotta get that before I before I leave this. Okay,
well you have Montana, ye, Minnesota, Wyoming did a you

(38:16):
know thing. It's a Yellowstone Minnesota. Minneapolis always cover snowstorms
up there.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Okay, Yeah, let's go around the room. If who thinks
Jim Cantore has ever been struck by lightning? Polly, I'll
go to you. I know cantorya the Weather Channel.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I know he wants to would be great for the brand,
especially live TV I don't think he has.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Okay, Todd, has Cantori been struck by lightning? I think
he's been mildly electrocuted by lightning. Yes, what do you think?
I'm gonna say no?

Speaker 13 (38:49):
I think.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Hold on, Jim, hold on? Are you gonna say no? Marvin, No,
I'm gonna say no. Jim your answer.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
If I have, I don't know it, honest to God.

Speaker 15 (39:06):
I mean, I've been in thunder snow six different times
with many different episodes of it, and that is something
you actually can get struck during. Speaking of Maine, the
only fatality that we have on record, Dan is a
young man in Maine. He was out sledding and he
got thundersnow in the middle of a winter storm. So

(39:28):
you can't actually get struck by it. But I don't
think that it's happened to me to the best of
my knowledge.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Delta's Delaware State is traveling to Hawaii and they're talking
about maybe.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
They're trying to problems right, is.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
There a hurricane on the way, typhoons or what kind
of storm is headed towards Hawaii? Have you checked your
live local late breaking doler Doppler super Dooppler radar.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Dan you know, I don't spend a lot of the
time on the Pacific stuff, but I'll do this for you. Okay,
now we do.

Speaker 15 (40:02):
We've been on this for the last days. First of all,
there's the area right there that we're looking at.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Okay, that's it. Here's Gilma behind that, and see another
invest behind that. Okay. So here's what it looks like
from a satellite perspective.

Speaker 15 (40:18):
So there's Hawaii, you see it. Yeah, this this area
that we're watching, there's actually two systems here that are
going to come together, and this is what they could
look like as they come towards whise. This is what
they call a GFS model. Hopefully this is pointed right
at it. So here's what it looks. Let's get together
maybe tomorrow, and then it's working its way to the

(40:40):
west and then boom, here we are twelve Sundays. That
Sunday morning. Let's just go back six hours. So this
is about game time. It's pretty far away. Some Awahuo's
right there. That's where the game is going to be
played and where I have the plus mark. So it's
pretty far away.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
There'll be some wind.

Speaker 15 (40:58):
I think there'll be some wind here, But right now,
you know, the thing's got to come together, and it's
got to develop, and if it doesn't develop, it's not
going to be much at all. Listen, here's the deal.
Whether's the great equalizer They need to play this game.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Thank you, Jim. Jim Cantori meteorologists. Weather Channel will follow
him up with who you would expect, Noel Lyles, the
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